why does this keep happening?
retards thinking their ideas are better than the source material
projects for paychecks instead of passion.
Because they're paid to make the show, not learn the source materialStop insisting on wasting peoples time
If they don't respect the source material, I won't respect their "adaptation." On top of all this, I'm not watching the Fallout series either.
>caring what TV people doYou're going to keep being disappointed until you let it go
>nooo it has to be like in my heckin source material hey here's my reddit media literacy certificate it's actually bonkers and icky how it DOESN'T respect the heckin source materialwhat part of "adaptation" is not clear to mongoloids like that? by their retarded logic everything must be a 1 to 1 copy of the predecessor so that we have an infinite amount of slop in the same formatwhat is so hard to understand about the notion that different people might like a different medium or a story retold in a different manner, you don't want to watch the movie because it doesn't respect your heckin digital toy? then shut the hell up incel
>>731128286>Stop insisting on wasting peoples timeyeah they should stop wasting peoples timeI don't enjoy having my time wasted by incompetent retards who can't even make the thing they are claiming they are.
>>731128146Technically, the LOTR movies were also a shitty adaption of the source material if we go by how closely it follows the story.However, EVERY change was for the sake of making a better movie and improving the pacing of the movie since movies aren't books and work a bit by different rules there.The important thing is not "how close are you to the original" but "how much respect do you have for it".
>>731128146They want to tell a story, sadly they got in charge of a adaptation, so they change the plot to acomodate their need. Thats why most movies based on books/games/cartoons are shit. They dont want to adapt they want to tell their story
>>731128146Because writers ultimately don't want to be doing adaptations, and they'll force the issue no matter what. They want to make original works that they've written. Problem is, they're either untested or unskilled so they end up adapting somebody else's work. But they don't want to, so they use the work they're "adapting" as nothing more than a creative writing prompt while making something completely different. Problem is, they're retarded, bad at writing, and none of the fans want their "version", they want a faithful adaptation. So it's fucking terrible every time.
>(((andy greenwald)))oy VEYYYYYYY
>>731128492Yep
>>731128146Because in the west, tv adaptation is the lowest form of culture. They offer the worst pay to scriptwriters and generally repel anyone with pride in their work or a sense of dignity. It's just a paycheck.Strictly, the people financing the adaptation don't care either. Suits think everything needs to be a known franchise or else nobody will pay attention. They aren't adapting halo or fallout, they're just borrowing it's name. The task of the scriptwriter is to go through the checklist of marketable tropes that the suits focus grouped and work them all into a story that's familiar and uncontroversial. Nowhere in the process is obeisance to the source material considered important.or the project itself ever considered a meaningful contribution imto the cultural landscape. It's slop to be consumed by the uncritical and then promptly forgotten.
A 100% attempt at being faithful cannot avoid 2 issues.1. It will never truly match up to how people nostalgic imagine or remember the source material anyway.2.If it's too good, then it runs the opposite issue where it potentially "replaces" the original and renders it irrelevant.
>>731128146zoomer mellenial jewish fat unsexed dyke women in leadership positions, basically just mentally ill people filling all of these bullshit "job" positions because the white males have already looted all of those jobs for all the possible novel creative work that can be produced by humanity. these top 1% of the art degree graduates taking on these jobs are walking into a hyperinflating economy where "movies" and "entertainment" are about to be completely blown away by what ai is going to do. fat lesbian negresses with chips on their shoulder think they are affecting social order with their decisions to cast niggers and add in anti white beliefs into their plots and concepts meanwhile basically the entire white race already knows 2007 was basically the last year humanity went upwards on the development chart and once america elected king nigger it proved that all this shits gonna start tumbling down anyways. go ahead try and prove me wrong
>>731128246To be fair, if someone's making a Harry Potter adaptation then any idea is better than the source material.
I'd rather have people in charge that aren't fans that ones that are and make the entire franchise about their waifu OC
>>731128482its usually because they pitched their story, it got shot down and laughed out.their next gig is an adaption then and they decide they will show their story actually was and "secretly" put it in and not even try to adapt it.every time
>>731128146Because they just want the brand recognition.
>>731128629>2. If it's too good, then it runs the opposite issue where it potentially "replaces" the original and renders it irrelevant.this happened ONE TIME with The Thing and has never happened since
>>731128246The source material is not perfect.
>>731128482Yeah, not exactly related but a good example of this mindset is Nomura turning KH4 in Versus XIII featuring Sora from Kingdom Hearts.
>>731128492>original works*works that they get the full royalties toLet's call it what it is because it's hardly original.
>>731128629>If it's too good, then it runs the opposite issue where it potentially "replaces" the original and renders it irrelevant.How is that an issue?
>>731128146they're not skilled enough to create their own IPs/ Hollywood isn't going to risk investing on a completely new IP. So they take an IP people like and put their own twist on it.
>>731129034they have no way of knowing that because they haven't played/read it.
>>731128638That's something only a retarded woke leftist would say to cope.
>>731129431Touché
>>731128146>>731128482It really needs to be culturally hammered into scrip writer's heads that in the modern day where everything has a dedicated fanbase the deal with working on an adaptation is that you follow the story to the best you can and in return you gain the prestige you can then build up to cash in on your personal projects.And the practice they got by making a good adaptation will of likely improved their writing anyway.
>>731129557>scrip
>>731128734AKA you want professionals that respect what they are working with, not unbearable superfans or narcissist's.
>>731129592I mean the shit they put out might as well be called scrip with tis quality.
>>731128146I legit do not understand the whole live action stuff. You already have the game/anime/book to enjoy, what's the point of a movie or show that condenses the plot into a few hours with bad casting and shit writing? Just replay/re-read the shit you enjoy, use your fucking imagination.
>>731129453the books went to shit after Prisoner of Azkaban, let's be real here
>>731129453You can't possibly think dogshit nonsense like the time-turner should stay the way it was in the books>extremely rare and powerful tool is given to a kid so she can attend multiple classes :^)
>>731129431Sure, but we know that so we also know that a fresh perspective might improve things.
>>731128146>get into creative profession to make my own ideas come to life >stuck making adaptation slop because nobody cares about my shit ideas >cope by injecting said ideas into the story anyways It's not that complicated.
>>731128146We live in ADHD times and even writers responsible for adaptations can't bother or are physically unable to sit through an entire game or book series to figure out what makes it work and how to transform them into another kind of media.They probably just ask their interns or AI for a tl;dr and work their headcanon from there.
WoW is what you get when you hire fans.
>>731128146Because writers, like journalists are lower than prostitutes. They are vile beings filled with spite and malice.
>>731128146Hubris it is insane how much of modern lefty mental illness is just lack of humility
>>731129837You can't have a perspective on something if you have no idea what that thing is in the first place.
>>731128638Yet, they can't create. They need to parasitize an IP.
>>731130171You are a close-minded individual
>>731130774>Defending parasites because deep down you know you are parasite as well
>>731128383Why bother adapting something in the first place if you're willfully ignorant on what you're adapting?Imagine someone making a Beatles cover album despite never listening to a single song by them, they just make it based on what other people have told them the Beatles sound like.
>>731128146Because the wider audience can't think and need simple as fuck shit to watch
>>731129837Not exactly a fresh perspective if the writer doesn't know whats not fresh.
>>731131986>Why bother adapting something in the first place if you're willfully ignorant on what you're adapting?Because existing IPs come with existing fanbases, which is what they are after. Respecting the source material or the fanbases is just lip service they have to pay to access what is basically just FREE marketing. Some of them are too dumb to pay this lip service, however.
>>731129453if the books are like the movies than they are shit
>>731128638Too obvious.
Why does this matter? The issue is they are arrogant morons who think they can do better than the original creators, not that they aren't familiar with the source material. Look out the Fallout show. They keep dropping hints that are very aware of the games but just deliberately do not give a shit and choose to zig when the games tell them to zag.And no, it's not just Bethesda shitting on Obsidian, there's tons of retarded shit that fucks up Bethesda's own shit too.
>>731128146DEI echo chamber
>>731128638Sent any death threats to women for playing Hogwarts today, "Alice"?
>>731128146Because the decision makers are usually retards who just hire their retard friends instead of competent people. This is why people seem to fail upwards in certain industries, you get jobs if you're an asskisser not because you have a solid resume.
>>731128734Why not both?
>>731128146Busywork given to nepobabies/DEI hires to create humiliation rituals for the goyim by destroying the past so that whenever you mention a single thing you liked, the youth will only think about the humiliation ritual "remake". They don't need to make money, they print the money, that's what fiat is, it literally means "government trust", except the government is jews who hate you. There is no point in keeping up with all the bullshit they produce, just write down the names of those responsible and they will all be killed one day, and their filth burned down with no one missing it. No one is ever going to miss the homo-nigger "new Dr who". Our enemies are mentally ill and consumed by hate, something they project onto us with their nonsensical accusations.
>>731129034>THE SOURCE MATERIAL IS SO NOT PERFECT THAT IT MADE GORBILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS WILDLY POPULAR WITH ALL AGES AND IS TIMELESS!>so its ok to make vast changes that destroy it and turn it into something else akin to fan fiction.>Said the faggot on /v/.Im so glad these nepo babies ruin hobbies for you assholes, you deserve it.
>>731129795the movies didthe books went to shit in the half blood prince
>>731132506Anon, you're arguing with picrel. One of the most important lessons in life is that if you're not evil, the vast majority of people who will oppose you are not misguided or dumb, but simply evil. Debate does not exist with evil, with liars, you cannot with simple words convince an evil person to stop lying, the only way to stop them is violence, something they themselves celebrate when it happens to you.
>>731129829He didn't say the books had no problems, or even that the story is good, but retarded writers can do worse and will do worse, and if you're in charge of doing an adaptation you might as well fucking adapt it, if you think you can do something similar but better then write your own shit.The idea that any change (bastardization) of someone's work must be an improvement is coming from the type of moron who just hates the writer, usually for a really stupid reason. These are the types that think Rings of Power is great because Tolkien was an evil racist white man.
>>731128638Then fucking create something original instead of leeching off concepts made by others holy fucking shit you letter community are so low IQ is embarrassing.
>>731128146You know why
>>731129795yeah, they were good as children's stories.subpar as teen stories.shit as adult stories.
>>731128146Gaming is not a medium much give any respect.
Even if they did read the source material they shouldn't just retread it 1:1.
>>731128638Let me put it as simple as I can so even a low IQ inbred like you from the third world can understand.The original source material is what people are fans of and what made the existence of an adaption possible, you respect the source material by adapting it faithfully and the fans will repay you in kind. That's it.If you don't respect the source material and adapt it into something that is completely original while still skin walking using the original name and franchise then you are not respecting the source material, not respecting the fans and you will fail.
>>731128246>retards thinking their ideas are better than the source materialThe source material isn't always great but ignoring it is a sure sign of vanity and arrogance, stupidity as well.>>731128286Then call it shootyman and wandyman instead of halo and harrey pottah and see how well it does commercially without the brand name. Them using the brand name is the clue that they want unearned attention instead of their work standing on its own feet.
>>731128638worldbuilding doesnt make any sense but the story and characters are solid
>>731128146They're not made for you
>>731128146their only objective is to ruin everything you love and make you miserable because they are demons.
Doubt anyone could make a better HP adaptation than the already existing movie series.
>>731136154anon, wtf does pic rel mean?
>>731128383You sound weak, emotional, and breedable. Please enlighten us with more dogshit takes like this one.
The people on the top who greenlight projects see marketable concepts not stories or settings. Their target audience is as many people as possible not the original fanbase. A "Harry Potter Adaptation" means they are adapting wands, capes, a whimsical private school, etc. A "Fallout Adaptation" means power armor, deathclaws, vaults, etc. If you want faithful adaptations look away from big public companies.Reading this back I sound like AI. Epstein rapes niggers sneed
>>731128146Because all Hollywood pedophiles have huge ass ego's so they can't just retell the already good story.
Who cares? Harry potter is for children, troons and severely mentally ill women.
Oh no, le heckin amazon stream will be shit, how could this happen
>I love [thing] I want to make a movie adaptation of [thing]>which part about [thing] did you like?>Well, I have never actually touched [thing]How the fuck do you make movies or TV series based on things you've never experienced?
>>731128146Most writers working in the industry want to do their own thing but keep getting these IP projects pushed onto them
>>731138717sometimes it can result in good mediafor example, starship troopers, the shiningbut not messing with the source material is usually better
>>731138717Exactly and that's how the Witcher tv came to be along with Halo, Rings of Power and a bunch of other properties.
>>731130774Because we all well know being an open minded individual is about making tv shows from books you have not read and refuse to read.
>>731128146These who hire these writers do so specifically to change things because they then can claim legal ownership over said things they change and therein make subsidiary monies from said adaptations. The writers in question are payed to be pick related for scraps under the table.
>>731128146The top levels of society, and those who wish to imitate the top levels, have decided that actual creativity and caring about things are low-status indicators. That the value in works of fiction exists in how many eyes you can get on them, and that the only reason anyone should undertake creative endeavors is to become wealthy and famous in the pursuit of manipulating the moral consensus.Being a boilerplate cynic who tries to browbeat others who actually care about things "because there's still inequality, starvation and war in this world." makes people feel more intelligent, important and moral than they really are, all of which increase status, or the perception thereof. It leads to art being reduced into two categories. Stupid rollercoasters meant for spectacle and mass attention.And dreadful preachy soapboxes that use preexisting works to smuggle insubstantial, platitude driven moralizing garbage in the name of a self defeating notion of social change that exists to make pseudointellectuals feel good about themselves more so than it does to actually make life better for people on the whole. Both sides do this. And it sucks either way.
>>731128635>zoomer mellenial jewish fat unsexed dyke women in leadership positionsJust say women, anon.
>>731138847The retard behind starship troopers (verhoeven) was so retarded it looped back to brilliant. Or perhaps there were enough tard wranglers behind the scenes because everything that comes out of that mans mouth about the subject is idiotic.
>>731138838>Most writers working in the industry want to do their own thing but keep getting these IP projects pushed onto themPlus the only thing they were taught was "deconstructing" and "decolonizing" what has come before. Their idea of creativity is looking up tvtropes and inverting them to spite the audience (their parents, really). Gen Z can't even read, so waiting until Millennial writers are flushed out of the system is futile.
>>731128146How did they manage to track down and hire the only person in the English world who hasn't read Harry Potter?
>>731139447>verhoevenhe might be a retard but at least he knows how to make a good movie
>>731128146Faggot wants to tell his own original story about being gay or something as disgusting but studios refuse to take risks with original ideas nowadays so they have to wrap it around a known IP for it to be greenlit.
>>731132362At least in this case it's literally his wife to whom he's married and has children with, and not just some character.
>>731132675>It's impossible to have a debate, just automatically resort to violenceThis is an evil take
>>731128146I'm still looking forward to the HBO series. If anything, since they said they were more dedicated to book accuracy and working with Rowling, this means this guy will be easier to control. The videogame tv adaptations doing this is definitely stupid though.
>>731139447>verhoeven>the retard behind>Starship Troopers>Robocop>Total Recall>Basic Instinct>Showgirls
>>731128638It's literally the best selling book series of all time. Insanely arrogant for anyone to think they can do better.
>>731139519Shows have multiple writers so it probably just happened that they scooped him up when batch hiring a bunch of grunts.
>>731139749>t. people who are glad Kirk got shot in the throat for disagreeing with themLeftists cannot be debated because disagreeing with them means you're evil and must be killed, it's a mentality they are proud of.
>>731139749He said "with evil" and "liars"While I wouldn't call it evil (rather disingenuous or intellectually dishonest) this typically checks out, in my experience. You can't reason with someone who feels no obligation to truth or reason.
The source material is shit, why bother? Have you seen this book accurate trash?
>>731140349It is honestly good in a way that leftists act so evil though as it means they won't hold power for a very long time.
>>731140349>>731140364>you can't debate with leftists because they don't know what they're talking about and are incapable of good faith discussionTrue>therefore just shoot themEvil
>>731139749>>731140349>>731140670Violence should be the last option.
>>731137647It's one of those "200IQ this will make you think" garbage some retard thought was clever, like for the love of God, unless the girl saw the other move the ball, she'd obviously look at the basket, unless she knew beforehand that the other would move the ball because she's a petty narcissist and wants everything for herself.
>>731140765Exactly
>>731129034that doesn't mean make it worse. Also Halo is basically perfect as long as it's just Bungie Halo.
>>731140765But on the flipside, violence should always be an option or everything you say is backed by nothing. A man incapable of violence is not peaceful, but harmless.
>>731140134Yeah isn't it curios how Game of Thrones got worse and worse the more they deviated from the source material? It's almost as if adapting someone else's homework takes less skill somehow...
>>731128146because recreating media is a dumb fucking idea and always, ALWAYS a cash grab. I don't give a fuck if the show runner likes or knows the source material, I'd rather they do what they want than make a 1:1 copy>then don't do it with an existing IPyou cry. no shit but also ... who cares? shut the fuck up and play the original.
>>731141558Harry Potter is something that works best recreated. Any attempts to add on to the main story afterwards have turned out bad, likely because the youth story in a magical school with a monumental threat is what people found appealing. It will still be unique though as this one has more time to show more book content. Not everything needs the team to "make their mark".
>>731140802i dont understand why it would make someone think, you said it perfectly: She has no reason to think the other girl moved the ball, so obviously shed look inside of her bag.
>>731142571It's a test for kids to see if they can understand that people can holds different beliefs from their own depending on their knowledge
>>731128734>I'd rather have people in charge than something completely retardedGreat. Retard.
>>731139268That's not how any of that works. And you're stupid for thinking that it does.
>>731140134>>731136057>>731132686>>731129453>>731136160Insane the defense some of you will run for one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.>a-at least the books were good though"No!"The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
>>731143790>He misses the point this hardJfc
>>731128286>Stop insisting on wasting peoples timeyeah this is what I think about every single adaptation ever made
>>731128286Do it as a cook and at best you would get fired for making shit food to your customers and at worst you would kill someone and go to jaik
>>731143790God gave you two ears and two eyes and one mouth so you would read and listen twice as much as you spoke.
>>731143381ahh, okay now i get it. Thanks anon
>>731141174>But on the flipside, violence should always be an option or everything you say is backed by nothing. A man incapable of violence is not peaceful, but harmless.Oh, I am capable of violence.Cold, calculated, highly efficient violence.Still, I would rather not have to do any of that.>>731128146See Witcher and what they've done to it.Seemingly it's just more important to insert their own messages.Which likely would be possible without dropping a big stinky heap on the source material.But no.BTW, the writers for the Fallout show, like one has any actual serious experience writing.They'll hire anything.
>>731132783Not surprising.
