Name one egregiously bad thing about this game. You cannot use buzzwords or vague rhetoric; you must make a strong case for why it is bad.
Killing Gustave and replacing him with Final Fantasy Man instantly without letting the party breathe and grieve. Never picked the game back up again after that.
>>731141234the parry system overemphasizes player skill over the RPG mechanics
>>731141234It was made by E*ropean sissies who worship browns.
>>731141283You're mistaken there, Gustave IS the final fantasy man.>>731141292And this is a bad thing because pressing attack 20 turns in a row is so much better?>>731141348Try again.
>>731141234it made me realize animeslop japanese rpgs were never good and i'm still butthurt over this a full year later
>>731141234Repetitive.Narrative is awesome, yeah. Art direction is great.But the gameplay.. I felt like I was playing some old school JRPG sometimes. And not in a good sense.Combat.. another one.. and another one.. yet another one.. inventory management time.. yaaaaay..I think it was the reason why they've made almost 50% of content optional and the whole Act 3 thing. People were just too bored at the time of the end of Act 2 and there was little narrative too keep the engagement going.
>>731141234Music sucks. If you like it, you have poor taste. It's nothing but groaning vocals and tracks with no actual substance. Even the final dungeon guitar riffs are uninspired. Only good track is the boss theme for the hand monster.
The parry system trivializes the combat because it’s so powerful that you can brute force any encounter, and refusing to use it makes them a slog. Dodging should be chance based and tied to the agility stat instead of being about pressing a button at the right time.
>>731141234JRPG combat. I'd much rather play BG3. JRPG's suck. Just standing there with no way to interact with the environment
>>731141831your taste in music might be worse than /mu/'s
>>731141561Sorry, let me rephrase in a language that you europoors can understand>لقد صنعه أوروبيون ضعفاء يعشقون البشرة السمراء.
>>731141935SMTV Vengeance and Deltarune have great soundtracks, E33 is just moaning noises.
puppet faces during combat
>>731141234Degrassi tier dialogue
>>731141831>>731142043>only thing about the game that is actually pretty good>contrarian says it sucks>deltaruneAt least you're right about SMTV having a great soundtrack.
>>731141234Generic art style, generic combat, ambiguously brown characters
>>731141234AI generated, asset flipped and their grpundbreaking parry mechanic is over 30 years old
>>731141975NTA butWhat sort of evil tongue language is that?
Why Maelle a midget?
>>731141283>Killing the Gary Stu and replacing him with a controversial character with actual depth that has ultimately led the game's story to still be talked about today."Verso carried the story, but some people can't admit it.
>>731141831Brownoids have no fucking soul.https://youtu.be/SkqbPAoYxPE?t=328
>>731142297Why would you admit to not having a soul?
>>731141234Can’t romance MaelleParry and dodge in a turn based rpg is antithetical since it goes against the core mechanics
>>731141234gigantic heads look retardedthe mocap is bad, expressions look like shit (but maybe the mocap was only used in like 2% of the scenes, it's still bad)the DoF looks like dogshitthe parryslop aspect isn't fun (fighting a boss over and over to memorize attack patterns because some attacks will essentially one shot you)
>>731142219Common Standard European.
>>731141234every character other than alicia/maelle, verso, and renoir are simply empty husks used to push the story along>b-but that's the point!maybe there should be a better point idk, i like my rpgs where nearly every primary character has SOMETHING to do. if you're trying to make the player feel torn apart by having to choose between what verso wants and what maelle wants, you should try making the fake, painted characters feel more important than what they literally are - fake
>>731141234Name one egregiously good thing about this game. You cannot use buzzwords or vague rhetoric; you must make a strong case for why it is good.It's funny that after it was pointed out you shills like to use vague rhetoric, the only response you could come up with is to use the term yourself. As is ever the case, evil (you) proves that it can only corrupt, twist, and steal what already exists, but never create.
>>731143450The writing and cutscene direction are both phenomenal, the characters are well written, the gameplay combines old school JRPG with modern tropes in a satisfying way, the story is exceptionally good, the original OST is widely celebrated.
>>731141234You can only play it for the first time once.
>>731141935>falling for bait this rotten
>>731141283Keep playing and realize that you were wrong or stay the course and continue on in ignorance. That wasn't some rushed mistake, the writers knew what they did and they did it very well.
>>731141234the bloom
>>731141234Act 3 kinda sucks
>>731141234is this bait? you can name multiple just from the first 5 seconds of the gamelike just look at this hideously slapped together UE5 slurry
>>731144867Could you specifically circle out in that screenshot what I'm supposed to be looking at?
>>731141234For something that decided to ape Mario & Luigi mechanically, the timed button presses for player attacks feel like a tacked-on afterthought. You just press A two or three times for everything, usually at completely arbitrary times relative to the animations.
The fact that it is labeled as "indie" despite having an 8 digit budget, over 100 staff members, outsourced animation work, a publishing company, etc. and how hard it has been astroturfed across all gaming forumsIt's otherwise fine.
act 3 was shit
Now everytime I fail at life I hear this "blabla clair obscure" thing in my head. I hear that a lot. I'm a fucking loser.
>>731141283basedcouldn't give a flying fuck about the story once my man died, and who expects me to empathize with cuntso the backstabbing lying snake
>>731142174>ambiguously brown characterswhat do you mean?
>>731141234>Name one egregiously bad thing about this gameUE5runs like shit
>>731142781western european**
>>731141831yeah its made for brown audience sadly, KCD2's soundtrack on the other hand was pure white soul
>>731141234Graphics and art style and art direction.
>>731146253>"Lying bad!!"*Sigh* I pity people who're too shortsighted to appreciate his masterful writing; he's the dev's favorite for good reason.
This might just be a me problem, but the environments are too visually busy. It strains my eyes playing through this. They overdid the bloom in some areas too.
Looks boring to explore. From how I see it all the environnement are open fields with random crap floating in the air.
>>731147681>too visually busy>overdid the bloom in some areasThat's because the "art direction" (GOTY winner by the way) was "painting!" so they just crammed a bunch of conflicting art styles and asset store objects into the game.
Name a single other game that came out this year that deserved GOTY more than E33. You can't.
>>731148134Just not possible...
>>731148134>this yearshills are easy to spot
>>731141234it's not bad but it's overtly praised for a 7/10 JRPG
>>731148134the hundred line was my personal goty but i also didn't play many new releases other than ninja gaiden 4, that new katamari, and some of the oblivion remakeand no i don't think hundred line is "goty level" from a reviewer standpoint so that still probably goes to e33
>>731142043>Deltarune have great soundtracklmao, good one
>>731143621>phenomenal>well written>satisfying he said not to use buzzwords
>>731141283>BRO YOU''RE SUPPOSED TO LET ME GRIEVE!!!
>>731141234>AI Slop: The Game (movie)
>>731141283This. Mexican telenovela-tier writing.
>>731141234Relay value is objectively mid-decent. Not Not objectively good or great.
The main bad point is using UE5. It's mitigated by mods, hopefully there will be a more thorough overall down the line with dedicated autists. I guess the selection menus could be better, especially pictos. The climbing is awkward but the second gestral beach is the only point where it's a hurdle. Still GOTD 10/10.
>>731141935/mu/ could hook you up with some good progressive albums probably.
>>731148134KCD2 was a way more ambitious open-world game. DK Bananza was pretty good for a family-friendly audience. Silk Song was a great value purchase and had a much more consistent and pleasant art style than the jumble that was E33.
>>731141234The difficulty balancing is fucked>you must make a strong case for why it is badNo.Also the interesting side stuff in act 3, besides Maelle's quest, is meant for a very high level which you can only reach by doing all the boring parts of act 3.
>>731141234I'll take the bait, it's linear and has 0 exploration
>>731148278What the fuck do you think goty means
This isn't egregiously bad, but I thought they handled Gustave's funeral very strangely. Why does the scene cut back and forth between each character's last words before they finish? It was awkward.
>>731142781I see thank you for the assessment
>>731148134Silksong, The Alters.
>>731149621you're a retarded zoomer that values bloat over polish. e33 became such a massive hit precisely because they put devhours into a refined experience instead of overambitious, aimless open workd slop. you're a fake gamer if you can't comprehend this
>>731141234Not enough porn of lune
>>731149763>Indian-generated post.
>>731149521> KCD2 was a way more ambitious open-world gameMandatory nigger that insults Bohemian culture, muh food and muh BBC. Instant Goty loss> Bananza was pretty good for a family-friendly audienceDoesn’t make it Goty material> Silk Song was a great value purchase and had a much more consistent and pleasant art style“It was cheaper” doesn’t count for Goty consideration
>>731149763>you're a retarded zoomerI accept your concession
>>731141234The UE5 depth of field and lighting look really bad sometimes. Like it'll focus on a character and blur everything else, but there might be an inch or so around the character unblurred and it just looks really weird and bad. Also some of the mocap and voice acting doesn't always sync very well which is a little distracting in some scenes>Let us celebrate the second destruction of the Dessendre... FAMILEEEStill GotY regardless
>>731141234>Name one egregiously bad thing about this game.The blatant Masonic propaganda.
>>731141234Act III completely invalidates the entire rest of the game, both gameplay and narrative, and it makes you feel cheated and as if you wasted your time, thinking that the game was actually going somewhere and would have a resolution when instead they chose to completely destroy any semblance of gameplay balance while also completely destroying any semblance of an established narrative, instead saying "and then you woke up from the dream" and that's genuinely the resolution to the game's narrative and the thing you spent all of Act I and Act II working towards. I would have liked E33 more if it was bad the entire time instead of just having a horrible Act III, because I wouldn't have felt so gypped by it.
>>731141234>Name one egregiously bad thing about this gameIt looks like shit. I don't really know anything about it, maybe it's great. But I watched the trailer and it looks like your bog standard UE slop with a "cinematic" Zimmerslop score, janky UE particle effect spam, lifeless characters with dead glassy eyes and plastic doll hair, and goofy outsourced chink animations with zero weight.If you didn't notice any of that, you simply haven't played enough video games to have a worthwhile opinion on the topic.
>>731149806>>731149824go play starfield you dumb niggers
>>731149935>points people towards another Pajeet Pass game
>>731149625what the fuck do you think "this year" means? retarded fuck just come out of a coma or something?
>>731150004>NOO THE GAME ISN'T GOOD BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO SCALE THE MAP BY 10x AND ADD A HECKIN HORSE MOUNT!!!! open world niggers need to be impaled on the streets
The only actually bad parts of the game are the Gestral Beach minigames. Everything else is either just objectively good, or up to personal preference (parryslop is not everyone's cup of tea for example).
The actual QTE system for defense doesnt go deeper than whats given to the player at Lost BattlefieldAfter that you only have either gimmick bosses or stat padding (Simon)Really once you get past Dualliste you pretty much figured out everything in the game, the rest is just pictos collection and builds and unless youre into the gameplay (which i am) you will keep going for the story which takes a nosedive in act 3I say this as someone who really likes E33 and i firmly believe that it blows out of the water every other game of 2025 in terms of art direction and music, and i knew right when i first saw its introduction trailer shown back then that it would be a heavy contender
>>731149815>Mandatory nigger that insults Bohemian culture, muh food and muh BBC. Instant Goty lossBlame it on that obnoxious jew Vavra for imposing his cosmopolitan subversions on what is otherwise a great European-made product. Or would it have been better had Musa been a chinese waifu like Jennifer Svedberg-Yen, and promoting racemixing with a White European men?>Doesn’t make it Goty materialIt was a good game and on top of that was accessible to a large audience, including children. You don't have to agree; it just is.>“It was cheaper” doesn’t count for Goty considerationIt was quality work for just a handful of indie devs, just like E33 advertised itself to be. If a good-looking game like E33 was made possible due to cutting corners by being AI-assisted UE5 asset flip, then Silksong deserves recognition too, especially if it passed along the cost-cutting to the consumer.
>>731141234it's regressive and pushes a eurocentric vision of the world and moral orderkingdom come deliverance 2 doesn't have that problem
>>731150858i'd rather not play a faggot simulator
>>731150752E33 is by tehcnicality a Indie for they are not bound by their pulisher and the game belongs to the studio not the publisher (Kepler has published many games, by your definition Hades is not indie and neither are any Devolver Digital games)
>>731150897game is a massive successget woke make bankhigher player count than chudpedition 33 incels btw
>>731150858>eurocentric visionNigger is a pocket world in a painting of a euro familyVavras dogs are desperate to shill KCD2 after it was raped here due to the leaks
>>731149894Like many room temperature brainlets, you misunderstood the entire point of the narrative. Congratulations.
>>731151056higher player counts on steam. e33 was on gamepass so million played it there. enjoy your ass rape simulator.
>>731141234The texture quality itself is fine, but the map design and environments are just this mush of nothing, even if it's supposed to be like that because it's a painting or something, it just ends up looking like a viusal vomit.I could name a few other things, but that was the most glaring to me throughout the playthrough.
>parry/dodge doesn't belong in turn based game, shuld have implemented blocking from LaD for reduced damage instead>FFX tier corriidors>HORRENDOUS platforming I love the game but the glazing is insane
>>731151467>parry/dodge doesn't belong in turn based gameWhy doesn't it belong?
>>731150752>Or would it have been better had Musa been a chinese waifu like Jennifer Svedberg-Yen, and promoting racemixing with a White European men?Is this even a question>It was a good game and on top of that was accessible to a large audience, including childrenIt was good game for children and adults stuck on that development level, not for anyone above 18>It was quality work for just a handful of indie devs114 names in credits
>>731151712>not for anyone above 18this has to be bait. This game is for an older audience with its subject matter. most children cant relate to grief and the effects it has on people.
>>731151128I didn't, I just think "the point" of the narrative is completely retarded, has been done a million times, is the first thing that they tell you *not* to do in any writing class ever, and it ruins what had been a decent narrative up to that point.
>>731151886>this has to be baitit was discussion about Bananza. A game for literal toddlers
>>731151625turn based games are about trading blows, ability to prevent getting hit either makes the game trivial or it eventually become mandatory to surviveeither way it's not fun, if I wanted to dodge and parry I'd play rollslop
>>731151886Most children want to swing the sword around while horseriding.
>>731141975Nice spanish DeShawn Sanchez
>>731141234the fans
>>731152058You speak as if there's a universal solved method of creating JRPGs. There are games like FF7 where you're expected to eat 7-8 hits from an enemy before you die. Then there's others like E33 where you can die in one hit if you don't mitigate it in other ways. I frankly prefer a skill-based system than spamming attack and potions for 10 minutes.
>>731151952>"it was all a dream lolz">"i aktshually understood it perfectly welle :o)"No, retardo, you didn't.
>>731141234It's not very good.
>>731141234it's unironically a good JRPG
>>731142297This shit is horrible af, you guys have no fucking taste it's incrediblehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTRg-DJ99Mhttps://youtu.be/JXRejwaL4Kw?t=226https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGCq52u1Sg
>>731152550>earned more goty awards than any game in existenceI'm sure you know better than the critics and gamers.
>>731152491I did understand the narrative, it's just bad so I reduced it to what it truly is. The true "low IQ" take is to believe that everyone who rightfully disliked Act III "didn't understand" it, especially when the game infodumps everything onto you. Even a retard could understand it, all of it is infodumped onto you in one section that bridges the gap between Act II and Act III. It's impossible not to understand it, but I guess they did a good job making retards feel like they're smart for "getting it" when it's explicitly told to them.
>>731141234I loved the game and the only personal gripe I have with it is that it's very emotionally exhausting.Most areas have brown/muddy color palettes and draining atmospheres in general. Aside from the battles, it's not a very "happy" game to play. Still had a good time playing it though if that makes any sense.
>>731151124>>731151195>all this copelmao in 10 years kcd2 will still be remembered for changing how we view europe and masculinity during the dark ageswhile your game for non will already be forgottenwe can already see it waaay more people are playing kcd2 than forgotten 33
>>731152738Go ahead and explain it to me.
>>731152605all the songs you've listed are mid
>>731141234The fans are huge annoying faggots.
>>731153010show me what is not mid then, let's have a laugh
>>731152746>Most areas have brown/muddy color palettes and draining atmospheres in general.Um sweaty it's suppose to be a post-apocalyptic setting. Everything is suppose to look shitty on purpose. You lack media illiteracy.
>>731141234I literally quit gaming after E33. It was so good that i realized i hadn't felt anything like it since Nier Automata, and FFX before that, and i probably won't find a game like this in the near future either so i rather use my time more productively.Its unironically so good that it makes every other video game seem like a waste of time in comparison, so i guess that's the bad thing.
>>731152820Just play the gap between Act II and Act III, anon. It explains everything for you very explicitly. If there are any details you are having trouble with specifically, you can ask me and I will explain it for you. >>731153082They genuinely think that if you rightfully didn't like Act III that you simply "didn't understand it", even though there is a huge infodump that explicitly tells you everything (except the finer details which are never touched upon, like Maelle being a Writer and maybe the "real world" not actually being the real world) that you didn't understand it. Somehow, E33 fans are the most obnoxious and pseudointellectual fanbase in existence, and the game isn't even a year old. It's honestly pretty impressive. The paid shills did their job correctly.
>>731142297>>731153010Reminder that the composer shills his mid OST in these threads.
>>731141283>without letting the party breathe and grieve.>Never picked the game back up again after that.Yeah we can tell
>>731151712>It was good game for children and adults stuck on that development level, not for anyone above 18Or you're a parent who wants to buy a fun game that they can play together with their kids. Again, you don't have to like it, but that's what some games out there are made for.>114 names in creditsCompared to E33 which had 506, if we go by Mobygames's numbers. Even then, those numbers are always bloated because of mentions of auxiliary people like backup singers in full orchestras as well as localizer people who handle the translations. The actual count of is more around ~40 for Silksong if you excluded those.
>>731153293why did he do it?
>>731152605Zoomer: the post™
>>731153283>even though there is a huge infodump that explicitly tells you everythingWtf. The fans kept telling us that it was a jrpg with out the icky Anime tropes.
>>731141234UE5
>>731141283FFVII had you fight a boss right after Sephiroth/Jenvoa killed Aerith and everyone loved it. And then you go snowboarding not even 45 minutes later.
>>731153543>Wtf. The fans kept telling us that it was a jrpg with out the icky Anime tropes.Well, I think the "fans" have never actually played a JRPG before. They like E33 solely because it's an "anime" game that looks gritty and ugly rather than looking "anime". There is indeed an infodump between Act II and Act III. You're also fighting fate and/or god, but the game "disguises" this with some bullshit that tricked normies into thinking they are smart or that there is a moral of philosophical question being asked when there really isn't. It's just smoke and mirrors used to obfuscate the fact that they couldn't actually resolve the narrative they had build, like all of Act III.
>>731153372>Or you're a parent who wants to buy a fun game that they can play together with their kids.yeah but none is going to consider the game goty just because you've played it with your kid
>>731153293KEK I was right then>>731153541>ZoE>zoomerhere a (You), you really need ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10y4DM2vpOA
the dogshit presentation of the character writing>*fade to black*>Anon smiles to himself, hope in his eyes. The future is bright, he thinks it's time to keep posting.>RELATIONSHIP INCREASED TO LEVEL 6
>>731152815this post silenced the inc*ls
>>731151043Hades 2 is self-published and didn't had hundreds of outsourced pajeets.
>>731154021The entire "relationship" mechanic felt like a tacked on afterthought. The game really didn't need that.
>>731152605Still crazy how the worst FF game completely mogs E33's soundtrack.
>>731153782the narrative is cohesive and resolved, especially comparing to JRPGs. the plot twist is also a good one. it really blows your mind for a moment. the fact that they explain it later doesn't change that>>731154081the only thing kingdom cum will be remembered for, is that they made the MC gay
>>731154301>the narrative is cohesive and resolved, especially comparing to JRPGsNo, not really. >the plot twist is also a good one. it really blows your mind for a momentNo, it makes you roll your eyes.
>>731154301kcd2 pushed the envelope of what a game can be, what masculinity is and helped the average uneducated gamer realize that europe was diverse as heck
>>731153372The main Silksong team is literally three people.
>>731153283Why can't you just explain it? You obviously understand it very intimately, yes?
>>731141234I don't think the game is bad but the things I don't like goes as follows1. Area design is too linear, basically every zone is a hallway2. Battle cinematography is legit really bad, it tried so hard to make everything epic that veers into "jingling keys" territory, like they had no confidence in the mechanics being interesting so they make the framing of those mechanics as epic as possible with the camera movements3. Action economy seems to be built entirely around parrying, so while you can play using dodges fights would be going way longer until4. you break the damage cap. this basically trivializes the endgame. Simon in particular seems built around the idea that you'll be nuking him before actually having to do the fight, which is just poor encounter design I think.
>>731141234>You mustI must nothing, shill. Your game's babby's first bait-and-switch running on 30-year-old design, and keeps spamming that fucking bait button till there's literally nothing of value left.>>731141831>Music sucksSeconded. Only time it actually made me feel something was Sirene's area music (Robe de Jour). Everything else is victim to dull as fuck composition.
maells cute little butt
>>731148134Rift Of The NecrodancerSilksong
>>731154759>Why can't you just explain it?Of course. Everything is very explicitly explained to you in the transition from Act II to Act III. I recommend that you play the game if you want to know what happens. Really, the in-game infodump is the best way to understand what's happening in E33. It's very explicitly told to the player so that even a retard could understand it, and he'd probably feel smart about it too. >You obviously understand it very intimately, yes?More intimately than the majority of the so-called fans, yes. What specifically are you having difficulty understanding, anon? Ask your question and I will answer it. What are you having difficulty understanding that you need explained to you that you couldn't understand from the infodump or need further clarification on?
>>731148134Look Outside was unironically a better and more memorable game than E33 wasAND it was actually a real Indie game too
>>731148134KCD2, DK, and Silksong
>>731141831I agree the Lampmaster theme is awesome and way better than the symphonic rock boss themes most people gravitate to because they don't have any musical frame of reference outside of rock and metal. There are other brilliant tracks as well though. The title track, Alicia, is astounding. Compositionally it's relatively basic, but it's the little flourishes in the orchestration that really make it. It's such a unique band for a video game as well, like a baroque chamber piece but with romantic era sentimentality and drama. And my favorite would be Lumiere. The way it uses playful antiphony with alternating staccato and legato between the different parts is really charming, with even the singer leaning into it with her percussive vocalizations at the start. Again, reminiscent of baroque in this textural sense but hints more heavily at French Renaissance music with its harmony and form.There are some really nice pieces outside of the classical influence too. Linen and Cotton (the song you hear when you step out into the Spring Meadows) to me is one of the most interesting to me. It has a really light, ethereal tone to it, new age almost with the soothing synths and glistening celesta, but with notes of despair. A lot of its melodic choices are quite unusual for Western music, using modal shifts that place it more in Asia. It would absolutely not sound out-of-place as the theme tune for an anime if the lyrics were in Japanese, and I think that's what they were going for, because you get a huge anime/classic JRPG ethereal fantasy vibe when you step out into that brightly bloomed and colorful area with that music playing.
>>731141234UE5 in general can just be very unaesthetically pleasing to look at, even if you have great art direction and implement a lot of color (as someone who really, really loves the game).
>>731155096Go ahead and explain it then? Feel free to use this infodump as a reference.
>>731141831>Only good track is the boss theme for the hand monster.Nah, this one is good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeFkb3LsmlQ>>731155427Please just tell me what you are having difficulty understanding so I can explain it to you. If you can't tell me which part of the narrative you are having trouble understanding then it's hard for me to pinpoint what to explain to you. There is an infodump in the game that explicitly explains everything to you, so I don't think you should have trouble understanding the game if you've played it. Have you played the game?
>>731149393>>731146253>>731141283You knew Gustavo for about 2 hours dude. He was a stranger to you
>the OST is le bad am right xitter xisters?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B1sslK8jYI
>>731144056My main issue with it is unless you go straight to the final boss from the start of act 3, it's way too easy. I did two side quests, went to the last boss after, then accidently one hit killed it.
>>731153293That only makes me like him more. The music is fantastic, deal with it faggot
>>731154276Indeed, and it's in my opinion one of the weakest OST from Masashi Hamauzu (he was doing banger after banger before, including FFX, SF2, US, Musashi Samurai Legend etc....), even spinoff like Dirge of Cerberus, FF-X2, The Bouncer or Tactics Advance have a better OST than E33 in every type of style:https://youtu.be/CMcC1Z8hvGQ?t=52https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhY3lfobN3Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSVGngTCjjAhttps://youtu.be/k4ATaMGx2y8?t=131E33 OST is absolute dog shit, there is countless of games with a way better OST.
>>731141234>please get mad at this game so it continues to cement itself in your brain, living there rent freeno thanks, I don't care about it that muchI've never seen anyone make any strong cases for why it's good.
>>731155712yeah the game needed to scale the final boss to the player so you just don't dunk all over it at the end, but that's really hard to do given how the power curve just goes right out the window once you break the damage gap.
>>731155815>I've never seen anyone make any strong cases for why it's good."You're brown and you didn't understand the game"That seems to be the strongest and most repeated argument for why E33 is good.
>>731148134Dare I say, even Death Stranding 2 would have been a better pick
>>731150752>handful of indieAnd thousands of Indian subcontractors.
>>731155812>le ebin cacophony + choirsliterally kys. weebs are so fucking tasteless niggers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QECdKDMYIo
>>731153293That ain't even him. Compare the carunculae.
>>731156003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWv-SMkqkUslol
>>731155380>LumiereWeirdly enough I found the Maelle epilogue version a bit more effective because they actually leant into how... sparse, for lack of a better word, it was. It plays out better as denoument than introduction.>Linen and CottonThis loops badly in-game, and it's not made for sustained listening the way they used it; the quirkiness you're talking about wears out its welcome super fast.>LampmasterDoesn't loop badly, but it's not interesting enough - there's this little bridge at the end before it loops where you think it might be going somewhere, but nope.>>731155663>GobluFair, I forgot about this. Similar problems as all the rest, but the tribal beat with the really airy notes worked.
>>731152605>>731155812>doesn't even post any of the good FF songslmao or dare I say lmfao even
>>731155812well anon, please tell us why those songs are better than, lets say, Orphelin, or Clea or For Lumiere
>>731156318kinonow post some of the stupid shit in E33
So this thread is just FF trannycels seething that Squeenix lost and FF is dying and they can't stand it how Squeenix bent the knee to the superior jrpg that's not even japanese? I see. But they should be glad that Squeenix learned nothing and will continue to produce more garbage until they actually, and FINALLY, die off.
>>731156089>le ebin cacophony + choirsYes, because that's exactly what the Tactics Advance track was, right? Acoustic Guitar is now: cacophony + choirs KEKAlso, even for western level what you posted is meh af:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCFqO36FIgEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcNu7wvfbkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60bPpXEq9Q>>731156318And? At least it's creative and bold and visually impressive, can't say the same for E33>>731156386That's the point, I don't even need to post the best FF songs to win over E33, you think what, it deserve to be compared to Liberi Fatali? Vamo alla flamenco? Theme of Love? lol
>>731156414I can't. none of the shit in E33 is retarded. it's all tied together and makes sense
>>731141234Its too depressing.Not everything in the story has to be doom and gloom.Oh I never played it BTW.
>>731156781>And?it's retarded nonsense with as much depth as a circus show, while taking itself seriously
>>731156894Based
>E33 music is bad... because it just ishttps://youtu.be/1np3BcYgP2o?t=169https://youtu.be/KbDjPsQJ0TU?t=34https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCOv6YNWiC4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc-6bPYg9yEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijr2NJDQng8https://youtu.be/cNbB-gzZAiU?t=189https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxLvO6s51l8
>>731141234i just dont personally like jrpgs is allits just that im not going to play themim sorry its just i just wont play it (the jrpg)!hahahahahahahha
>>731141234The visuals are horrendous. Environments have no cohesion, which they try and fail to explain away with in-game lore. You can't explain away a vista being fucking ugly.The people are hideous abominations, some unholy mix of realistic textures and skin tones with anime proportions that is at the fucking BOTTOM of the uncanny valley.The animations for movement and vaulting were clearly purchased from an extremely common UE asset pack that looks like absolute shit even when it's rigged properly and they rigged it improperly.The combat animations clash hard with the rest of the visual style on top of plain old not adhering properly to the laws of animation. Anticipation? Overshoot? Fuck that noise just make them spin a hundred goddamned times.This game is broken garbage on par with the cheapest BR crap and the only reason it's praised is because journos want to feel artsy.
I didn't even play it lol
>>731156387The entire E33 OST is feel too forced and amateurish, there is no real cohesion and harmony in the melody. Think of it like a picture, I could put billions of stuff inside it, but what makes it look good is the overall harmony, how everything works together.If you one day make some music, you will face at some point or an another the dilemma between different instruments, tone, rhythm etc... and the more you improve, polish, rework, the more it feel "natural" and harmonious.I wanted to show an example of some music that a great composer improved during the development of a game between the first trailer and then the final OST release to show really what make the difference but I can't find it on youtube anymore, so I will just post the final version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYINhRZuaec
>>731141234it’s tranny coded
>>731157559this shits sounds horrendous bro stop trying to sniff your own farts with your pseudo intellectual weeb trash
>>731157129>it's retarded nonsensewatching a clip like that taken out of context, yes, it will look like retarded nonsense, that's what happen when you judge stuff from a 4chan thread without knowing about the game itself.>>731157521Exactly, I would say, this game showed that you could literally sell anything with the right marketing, even the most ugliest abomination ever.People say E33 look visually stunning when in reality, it is in the same ball park that a game like Code Violet, fucking kek
>>731157910>this shits sounds horrendous bro stop trying to sniff your own farts with your pseudo intellectual weeb trashoh the irony
>>731157559>The entire E33 OST is feel too forced and amateurish, there is no real cohesion and harmony in the melody> there is no real cohesion and harmony in the melodyyou never studied music, did you. Because I don't know how one can say something like this with straight face
quick reminder that E33'S ost doesn't have to be the best to be good. posting some of the best vidya music doesn't change that. especially when your music comes with personal attachment from playing the game
>>731141831I'm only an hour in and yeah the music is really horrible.It's trying to do the nier automata sad girly vocal thing but it's not working.
>>731158038>IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE GOODe33sisters…….
>>731157521>You can't explain away a vista being fucking ugly.They said it's supposed to be Belle Epoque painters. But anyone can google paintings from this era and they look absolutely nothing alike.
>>731157990I played DS1 and I know that what I saw in the clip is retarded nonsense, as is most of Kojima's work
>>731141234Enemy design and enemy variety
>>731158078>this is totally nier automata I swearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIKXA8MGN8
>>731157990Wow, this game is horseshit. Money laundering?
>>731158284shill working overtime
>>731158078but nier automate music is good. this just shows that you have no taste
Unless you embrace the rhythm game and play parry only, the game is too fucking easy.
>>731158387>saaaaaaaaar
>>731141234If you do literally anything in Act 3 besides go directly to the final boss you will be hideously overpowered for it and the entire final dungeon, which really cuts into the dramatic atmosphere they're trying to build. Act 3 in general kind of gives up on maintaining any sort of challenge with a few notable exceptions. Also a lot of the side content feels underbaked (reused assets, no animation) but that's most likely a AA budget problem.
>>731158387Yeah it's not nier automata though >man yells in an ugly voice CONTIBUEERRR>omg so kino
>>731157910>weeb>weeb>weebThere is nothing about this music that sound weeb, I could post a music from jeremy soule, inon zur, austin wintory etc... with hidden game name that you would still call it "weeb", so stfu.https://youtu.be/yCv7azW1Bf4?t=51https://youtu.be/OAJIU9nMbYY?t=112>>731158032Not only I somewhat did, it's also something that is not only related to music, and more of a general concept regarding "arts".Tell me, what makes the difference between a 2 year old child drawing vs a davinci painting? If you can answer that, then you know that what I said make sense.
>>731158367>yoo bro this just sounds like nier fucking automata skibidihttps://youtu.be/n5StbilWhRw?t=164
>>731158473>Yeah it's not nier automata thoughindeed, vocals in E33 actually have meaning behind them and relates to the story. Not just random shit that just sounds cool
>>731158575It's shit that sounds terrible
>>731158570nah, it sounds like some hack faggot failing to imitate it
>>731158570stop getting baited by that nigger he's farming the fuck out of (you)
>>731158472the devs have already posted they kind of regret making act 3 so open ended because it allows you to get too op by finishing the rest of the quests and optional content before the final boss, they didn't expect so many players (autistis) to go through all the optional content before finishing the game
>>731158556>Not only I somewhat did, it's also something that is not only related to music, and more of a general concept regarding "arts".Ah, so you did, yet your description of music is no different from Pirate "Maldavius Figtree" Software description of programming: Retarded and wrong. Which is even worse, because it means you wasted years learning nothing
>>731158636>nah bro this is le heckino nier automata right herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbYc-wTZzLw
>>731158718>stating facts is bait the e33tranny cult really are delusional
>>731158826>>731158636sounds like str8 dogshit no cap frfr
>>731158827thank you for the (You). may i have another
>begging for (You)sgrim
Act 3 and the ending ruin the story. The setting, characters and world was interesting enough to carry itself, and didn't need the twist of it just being about one self-destructive rich family who refuse to go to group therapy.
The widescale fellation of E33 is, I must confess, a laughable phenomenon to observe.An "indie" game made on a $10 million budget, with a star-studded voice cast and the backing of wealthy investors, while making use of Unreal Engine stock assets - and all propped up by an emotionally manipulative storyline that anyone who's read a book or two beyond the shallow end of contemporary fiction will recognize is trite and mawkish - sweeping every award in 2025 is perfectly fitting.Mechanically, the game completes the illusion. It is a JRPG designed for normies who hate (or rather, are embarrassed to be associated with) JRPGs and are far more interested in an "accessible and immersive" experience. The result is a combat loop that flatters the player’s sense of participation while asking almost nothing of them beyond rhythmic compliance: press the button, watch the spectacle. It's Pavlovian.The narrative is less a story than a checklist of affective cues, engineered to provoke recognition rather than reflection. It's all handled with the kind of solemn obviousness that mistakes earnestness for depth. It insists upon emotion as a substitute for thought.That this design philosophy is rewarded so thoroughly speaks less to the game’s individual failings than to the current critical ecosystem surrounding games. Awards culture increasingly favours works that resemble prestige television. E33's critical success rests almost entirely on an aggressively curated emotional register. Of course, to question the shallowness of such experiences is to risk being framed as elitist, even as the industry openly celebrates projects engineered to offend no one and challenge nothing.Don't mistake my point. E33 is not a catastrophe. It is worse than that: it is exemplary. It represents the logical endpoint of a medium desperate for cultural legitimacy, chasing validation by mimicking the least demanding forms of "serious" art while hollowing out what once made its genres distinct.
>>731154201Especially obvious when there's only three character quests. Sciel's route is just there to hand you a swimsuit and bait you into going for the easy slut, costing you a chance of the actual romance route.
>>731159008filteredI love it when idiots crawl out of the woodwork and loudly scream "I'm stupid!!!"
>>731158038I'm not even posting the best OST lol, notice how I massively avoided a lot of great franchise?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVHx23ByhMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQzgK53QCYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVAWi6K0JzYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr9rMO7GKj4>>731158180That mean you didn't understand jack shit about DS1 then.>>731158302exactly, and it visually as bad as E33
>>731159016>the writing isn't better than the best works of literature, so it's trashsuch an old and dumb argument. you can find it in any RPG thread
>>731159292It's written by an obviously sheltered, neurotic woman with zero life experience who creates artificial problems in her own head.
>>731152815ok Homo-Henry
>>731159292uh-oh the e33sissy narrative is falling apart
>>731159268I notice how you pretend that it's much better than E33's soundtrack, while it's not
>>731156003>models based on slop starssoulless
>>731141234I bought the game and gave it a positive review but I really, REALLY disliked the way characters exaggeratedly flailed and looked around them when shit was happening ie. verso reading alicia's letter, maelle and verso running away from renoir right before act 3 starts. Shit looked amateur as FUCK.
>>731154201How else would you get some idiots to actually go through dialogue that offers character development? They sure as shit wouldn't talk to everyone at camp otherwise. Literally force the players go through it without any reward? Now it's optional and even the "skip everything and remain confused" morons still get rewarded with unlockables.
>>731157521>Zero rebuttalsGood, we can all recognize the game looks like a trash fire.Now the music - probably the simplest argument I can make is that people ITT are comparing E33's music to Automata.Nier Automata is another trash can of a game with no redeeming qualities that artsy-fartsy faggots glaze. Though it is better than E33.
>>731141234It's persona with a faggy french renaissance skin on it (because the french have their heads stuck so far up their collective arse that renaissance is the only fucking aesthetic they're able to thinking of).But they knew it'd be too obvious if they just 100% copied the battle mechanics, so what did they do? They slapped SIMON FUCKING SAYS on top of it.And you retards keep praising it for it's utterly unoriginal story.It won indie game of the year and it's not even indie./v/ is a bunch of corpo stooges as usual.
>>731141234they did not use the vocal version of una vie a rever (Alicia boss theme) anywhere not even in the DLC and that shit really pissed me off. It's such a good track.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1mSbvLGcC4&t=10m3s
>>7311588011) I don't watch Pirate Software, so I don't even know what he said or not, and in what type of context it's related to.2) It's not because someone could be wrong in a lot of things that everything he say is wrong, even a broken clock is right twice a day.3) Outside of saying "you are wrong" you didn't provided any arguments to defend your opinion.>>731159227lol so it's true; the E33 devs post in here, go back to the 18-25 you fucker
>>731159569you mean this scene? I thought the directing was good but I'm not a /tv/ connoisseurhttps://youtu.be/RdiffZfLfkQ?t=1646
>>731159843> there is no real cohesion and harmony in the melodyAs I've said, this is factually wrong statement. And if you studied music it just means you're even more retarded than if you just spewed random insults
>>731153293I wish he did but those eyebrows are totally different. What is it with e33 haters and being totally faceblind, is it autism? Anyone remember the guy who tried to say verso and gustave look exactly alike and supported it by posting this
>>731159848Yes, exactly that one. Look at the way Maelle spins. What the fuck is that? At that moment you can clearly tell it's a shitty mocap actor in a studio not reacting to anything specifically. Sorry but it just really bothers me for some reason.
>>731159843sash c'est toi enfant de pute ?
>>731159785>zero actual criticism>personal bias>hivemind "opinions"
>>731159509It's far better yes, in every styles, and those are soundtrack that have been considered "great" by many players over the ages, and not by a bunch of idiots jumping in the "flavor of the month" thanks to a massive propaganda.It's almost like you guys are discovering music for the first time of your life.>>731159513sure buddy, you would have preferred le LGTV chocolate woman or le mass effect andromeda models instead?
>>731159967>generic beardfag 1 and 2womanslop
Maelle should have been the playable/lead character in the final chapter, not Verso. The chapter is literally named after her.
>>731160050oui honhonhon. la baguet mon monsiour, je suis monte avec fromage
>>731160107t. low test with poor beard genetics
>>731154182>didn't hadwhy do jeets always lie about being involved with the production of e33?
>>731160212>t. low test with poor beard geneticsnot my problem
>>731159965>I said it's wrong, so it's wrong.ok>you're even more retarded than if you just spewed random insultsquite ironic from someone that refuse to electorate and throw some random insult instead
>>731160107>they're WHITE its generic and evilkys faggot
>>731158078it sounds nothing like nier, unless good ost is synonym to nier ost
>>731151886>this has to be bait. This game is for an older audience with its subject matter. most children cant relate to>bananzalegitimately what is wrong with tendies?
>>731160375>SHILLJEET DEFENSE FORCE ACTIVATEDeverytiem
>>731160180>Maelle should have been the playable/lead character in the final chapter, not VersoOnly party is built with all characters having some relations to Verso: Verso toy, Verso dog, Verso sister, two whores sucking Verso dick.If story switched to Maelle PoV in camp she'd have very little to talk with everyone but Verso nad Esquie
>>731160062>personal biasYes, real people critique stories and art based on human emotion and call upon memories and experiences when forming opinions. E33 defenders seem to hate this because their idea of art is solely based on surface level appearance and aesthetics.
>>731160050non, j'ai autre chose a foutre que de poster sur ce forum de loser, sale petit negre.
>>731160107>white men with passable bears drives him into a ragelmao
>>731159813I refuse to listen to anything other than in-game mix for this OST. The mixing is so ear bleedingly terrible on these songs both on youtube and spotify that I can't believe a human listened to them and decided to publish.
why are fat ass americans and browns so obsessed with media having to have happy endings? it's pathetic
>>731160535>passable bearse33saars…
>>731160349elaborate* fucking auto-correct
>>731160089>It's far better yesnah. while E33's soundtrack isn't mind blowing, it does have variety and doesn't do the same mistake as many other games, where most of the soundtrack sounds similar. on top of that the soundtrack is consistently good. E33's soundtrack isn't bad and if you want to die on that hill, be my guest. also stop sucking Kojimbos dick so much, it's embarrassing
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>>731160062Tell me more about these hivemind opinions, if you can take the corpo cock out of your mouth for 2 seconds.
this thread is funnyI really liked the game but I agree went too highI bet it would have a better reputation here if it didn't win so many awards
>>731160652>FUKCING BLOODY SPEELING MISTAK BASTAARD FUCK YOU BLOODY
>>731160517your whole take on e33 is surface level, retarded troll, you haven't even played it
>>731160349bro are you really fighting for such a retarded statement as to claim that E33 songs don't have "harmony in the melody"?
They don't explain anything about the "Writers" despite them being literally the reason the plot even happens>implied to have probably caused the fire>Clea shows up out of nowhere in the story to berate her crippled sister and throws her into a life-draining painting with no training because "THE WAR WITH THE WRITERS REEEEE!!!!!!!!!">even Renoir doesn't know why the fuck Clea is off fighting a war by herself>absolutely no signs in the real world that there is anything resembling a war happening at all
>>731141234The fact that they didn't put the music that plays before Renoir summons the canvas (8:30 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K1yeBZ2Q0Ko) in the soundtrack.
>>731160089kojimbo will never direct anything of this level btw, enjoy your quirky albeit
>>731159262I'm just tired of these kinds of twists, and miss when games could just be their own worlds.
>>731141234>Name one egregiously bad thing about this gameClea's outfit on Lune hides her feet when both canonically are barefoot
>>731161107>browns think this is an attractive "woman"
>>731161290>it’s le kino because…IT JUST HECKING IS OKAYYYYY?!??????!?
>>731141234the shallow JRPG system is egregiously bad on its own and this game is shit in my eyes like all anime RPG games are
>>731161107That's my cum on her face btw
>>731141234I kind of stopped caring about the characters when it was revealed that this is just a painting. Also, there needs to be pictos/lumina load outs.
>>731161670If your cum is coming out that color, you might want to go see a doctor.
>>731161591it has good cinematography, its the definition of kino zoomzoom
>>731161107it's a meta thing anon. of course the writers are the one who kickstarted the game, they write the events of the game. >>even Renoir doesn't know why the fuck Clea is off fighting a war by herselfRenoir is blind to his own children except Alicia, he's a fool who can't understand how someone might cope by throwing themselves head first into work to keep themselves distracted>>absolutely no signs in the real world that there is anything resembling a war happening at allwe only ever see the Renoir family home, which clearly isn't the warfront retard. The family would have some pretty big problems being stuck in the painting if the war was happening in their garden, wouldn't they?
