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Most ‘had to be there’ game of all time.
>>731141652i recently played it for the first time and thought it was highly overhated. i mean i didn't really love it and i thought the first half was dogshit, but ultimately it was a solid 6/10also is anyone else getting tired of the fallout spam? between the obvious paid marketing and fabio posting his daily (sometimes twice a day) "troon vegays" thread it's getting really tiresome
>>731141506Top normal functioning human beingBottom raging autistic with too much time on hand
>>731141506>cringetosis hates fo3yeah I think i love fo3 now
>>731141921Perhaps
Only 20 minutes? does he even recap every quest in the game?
>>731141506Who's the target demographic for 6 hour-long essayslop?
>>731141506>Mr. Tranmers
>>731142076neets who want something to listen to while playing an mmo
People like fallout 3 for the atmosphereRemove the radio and ambient music and no one will defend it
>>731141918>6/10kys
>>731141918same, thought i disagree with the first half of the MQ sucking, that was the good part of the game, once you rescue your dad the gamesbecomes worse and worse.
they will likely drop f3 and fnv remastered close to each other, watch fnv demolish the shi that is Garbage3 in sales, it's simply a better gamealso no piss filter so 7th gen haters are vindicated
>>731141506Creetosis is a bigger tranny than Zuliethewitch
>>7311422656/10 is decent on my scale. for reference NV would be a 8.5/10. can't think of a 10/10 game off the top of my head but i've definitely played a couple of thosefor me the main quest being bad really detracts from the overall experience. it really felt like you're just doing 14 fetch quests in a row until the end of the main quest. the finale was pretty cool though, i'll give em that
>>731142804>6/10 is decentkys
>>731141506I honestly like 3 more than New Vegas.
>>731141652weird I remember all old falloutfags hating it
>>731143430all 10 of them? fallout 3 sold millions whereas 1 and 2 didn't even break 1 million. There was a bunch of collage images of comments on facebook and youtube with people being confused about what the first 2 fallouts even were
>>731141506Fallout 3 gets a lot of hate almost entirely because of its retarded story and bad writing. New Vegas gets heralded as one of the greatest games of all time because of its story and writing, despite having literally the exact same gameplay as Fallout 3.For some reason people place massive importance on the writing despite most people not really giving a fuck about story or writing in videogames. So Fallout 3 was a big hit and is fun for most people who just want to run around ruins shooting things meanwhile people who play games for story and don't really care about gameplay because they're too stupid for books hate the game.
>>731143595so >you had to be whereon facebook?
>>731143430>old falloutfagsthey hated fallout 2 as well
>>731141652thats hl2
What sorts of improvements/additions are expecting from 3master?
>>731143629>Fallout 3 gets a lot of hate almost entirely because of its retarded story and bad writingFO3's gameplay has aged like fine poop and was questionable even at release. The guns feel awful and half of them suck, the rpg mechanics devolve into chunking down bullet sponges especially in the expansions, the enemy AI repeats the same few movements over and over. Nobody in these threads tries to defend the minute to minute gameplay even ironically. Even the gigachad jeet spammer mostly talks about the story in his shitpost images
>>731144193sprint, Fallout 4 loot menu, aiming down sights.the basics.
>>731142239Fallout 3's atmosphere would still be intact if the overworld was just dead silent
>>731144193I predict it will have the exact same color tone as Oblivion Remastered, but nobody will complain this time around because it will be an improvement over the weird green tone of the original.
>>731144193Hopefully nothing from 4.
>look guys some ecelebs made videos with different opinions which one should I adapt?None of you play videogames.
>>7311436293 just doesn't have hollywood actors + jesse burch reading novels of text to ultimately not really say anything. It's amazing how easily people get fooled into thinking writing is good when it's just verbose and voiced by celebrities.>look guys it's wayne newton>look guys it's chandler from friends as the guy in a suit>look guys it's danny trejo from machete, spy kids, and cheech and chong>look guys it's felicia day>look guys it's michael hogan from battlestar galactica>look guys it's john doman from the wire and the affair>oh my live long and prosper, it's michael dorn aka worf from star trek omg omg!!!!!!!>BEAR BULL BULL BEAR wow so deep!
>>731144272It aged poorly but I think for the time it was good and honestly I still find it fun. Even just shit like blowing people heads off or chucking a grenading into a group and seeing the gibs fly everywhere in slow motion was so much fun. New Vegas has the exact same gameplay and people, including myself, like it in that game too. Its literally just because of the story that people will write 6 hour essays about how bad it is and literally never say a word about the gameplay. Imo New Vegas having better writing really only puts it 1 point above Fallout 3. If you rate Fallout 3 as a 2/10 and the exact same game but with a better story a 10/10 you're fucking insane and your opinion should be disregarded.
>>731145847Most people have no clue who these people are and still love the game for what it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z8XHe2NoAEthis enrages the autistic loser
>*make 20 minute video fellating bad game and "explaining" why*>your video sucks and you're wrong>oh yeah? prove it :)>*makes 6 hour video proving the above video wrong using actual facts, footage and explanations*>UGH dude I'm not watching that, that's six hours! brevity is the soul of wit! :)>ok, your standards are low and are easily pleased by sub-par games>UHM where are your sources? you didn't even make sense :)
>>731146434kys cringetrannyosis
>>731142969Ok IGN
>>7311430813 had more interesting set pieces than New Vegas. I played New Vegas before playing 3, and I can say that New Vegas was boring to look at.
>>731146153Just because zoomers and alphags who don't know anyone but twitch streamers and twitter posters don't know who these incredibly famous and well known people are, doesn't mean "most people" have "no clue who they are", zoom zoom.
>>731147156I'm 35 and know maybe one people on this list. Nobody cares.
>>731144193Megaton retcon
People like the ideas and aesthetics of Bethesda games far more than they like the actual gameplay and story content, which they typically ignore anyways. They are the definition of "turn your brain off" media.
>>731141506Fallout 3 is a good game, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Only 6 hours?
>>731146783Goodsprings was a lot like Kotor 2's Peragus II. New Vegas suffered harshly from Obsidian's brainrot in that era, which I define as>insufferably boring first level/area overloaded with exposition dumps, empty rooms, and zero re-play factorIf you can stomach that awful first couple of hours the games are passable RPGs, mediocre even, only marred by the occasional LGBTQ snowflake NCR ranger brigade where everybody you talk to tells you their tragic unique snowflake backstory about how they were gay but had to hide it from their druggie parents and the girl in the squad got raped.
>>731147453It's a good game, just not a good Cooking Mama game
>>731147216>zoomer pretends to be older while not knowing anyone his claimed age range would know
>>731141652Even those fags would be hating this shit.
>>731143936gen alpha seem to really like HL2 because of all the "technology" moments, due to how bad AAA games have stagnated. shit like physics tech demo puzzles seem novel still.
>>731147473This one is by far the worst case, I think Ryoji’s arc is like 2 hours long
>>731143629>despite having literally the exact same gameplay as Fallout 3not really. iron sights is a game changer for long range gunplay, and better RPG mechanics goes long way. It's too easy to become a jack of all trades in 3. by the time you get close to that the game gets boring and that's before you finish all the quests and visit all the locations. FNV does have a similar problem though of you gaining too much experience far too quickly.
>>731143629>most people not really giving a fuck about story or writing in videogamesYou must be retarded. If that were the case games like MGS, TLOU, E33, GOW, RDR, Witcher etc wouldn't be so popular. Modern gamers love story in video games, that's why it's such a big focus nowadays. Yeah I wish it weren't the case but saying "Most" people don't care about it is just a blatant lie.
>>731152475Not really. Most of the best selling games of all time are not story focused in the slightest. RDR2 on this list is really the only outlier.The games you listed are well liked but I think their popularity is overstated in the same way people overrate New Vegas.Modern gamers couldn't give the slightest fuck about story, but games journalist and youtube essayists give a different impression because they do care more about writing.
>>731152671>Only the highest selling games count, most of which have come out decades ago >Modern>Mostly all normie slop like GTAV, Wii Sports, The SIms, and Mario 1 which have been enjoyed by people that wouldn't be considered "gamers"Do you idiots even think before you press post? I guess E33 was huge last year because of it's gameplay right?>RDR2 on this list is really the only outlierWitcher 3 was enjoyed for it's gameplay I guess? My female cousin has the sims as literally the only game she plays. Is she a "modern gamer" to you?
>>731141652Most 'had to be a normalfag' game of all time.ftfy
For me? Its the Legion
>>731153271Ok then best selling games of 2024. Literally not a single story focused game. Same for 2023 and 2022 and beyond.>Witcher 3 was enjoyed for it's gameplay I guess?Ok Witcher 3 also. Doesn't change the point, and you can keep scrolling down the list, 95% of them are games that are not story focused or outright have terrible writing.>My female cousin has the sims as literally the only game she plays. Is she a "modern gamer" to you?Depends how much she plays it. Imo someone who plays thousands of hours of the sims is definitely a gamer.I think you are definitely overrating how much people care about writing. Its a thing only pseud critics care about.
>>731141652I can make any reasonable person dislike FO3 within two hours of playing it. Most people don't seem to remember the absolute barebones, terrible, "crafting" bench and UI FO3 had. Or how the game doesn't even have ADS. (Iron sights)It took FNV to actually make these decent (laser weapons don't have ADS though).
>>731153695I hated the ironsights when I first played NV because most of them are so inaccurate without mods. Having no ironsights didn't really feel like a problem until you got used to playing with them in NV years later.
>>731153626Definitely cherrypicking on the year there. No major story focused game released that year, if it was it would be there. I already named some of the games that people that consider themselves gamers have gravitated towards over the past decade.>TLOU2, E33, GOW, RDR2, BG3 CyberpunkIf RDR2 or an equivalent came out that year you don't think it would be on that list? Even on that list there's fucking 5 sports games on there. These games are played even by people who play games a couple hours each week. These aren't "gamers" games. All the big triple a single player games that come out are expected to have an engaging story. That's not even controversial. You can't just base your opinions around statistics without considering the context behind them>Depends how much she plays itWell I wouldn't consider my mom who plays tons of candy crush or word search everyday a gamer
>>731153481Too underdeveloped as a faction.
fallout 3 fans are the footfags of the fallout fanbaseinterpret however you like
>>731141918yeah its not a great game but it isn't totally awful either.a typical bethesda game with some promise but rough with no finish whatsoever
>>731154623>Definitely cherrypicking on the year thereIts literally just a recent year. 2025 is similarly mostly devoid of story focused games.>These aren't "gamers" games.You're trying to no true scotsman this to imply that you're only a gamer if you care about story focused bullshit which is just stupid. Guy who plays 1000's hours of League of Legends, TF2 or COD is more of a gamer than the pseud playing Cyberpunk for 20 hours for its story and then GOW for 20 hours for its story and E33 for 20 hours for its story.>All the big triple a single player games that come out are expected to have an engaging story.Thats bullshit, literally noone gives a flying fuck about the story in most of the big AAA games. Most of them are so poorly written too. Hell even Fallout 4 was 3rd best selling game of its release year despite having absolutely abhorrent writing. It got a bunch of midwit essayists really mad about its terrible writing though.The truth is anyone intelligent enough to want good writing and stories isn't looking for it in bing bing wahoo shooty videogames, they read books and watch movies. The class of people who care about writing in videogames are basically the biggest midwits you will ever meet, too stupid for books but pride themselves as being above games with bad writing for some reason.Even games with good writing by videogame standards are pretty mediocre compared to classic literature. Like people praise Fallout 1 and the Master but really its like marvel comic level writing about a moustache twirling villain turning people into big green aliens with mutation juice and he forgot to check if they can breed so he kills himself.>Well I wouldn't consider my mom who plays tons of candy crush or word searchTrue but that's because mobile games aren't real games. Sims is a PC game.
>>731155370>You're trying to no true scotsman this to imply that you're only a gamer if you care about story focused bullshit which is just stupidThat's literally not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that fucking NBA 2k26 and the The sims aren't games that people consider themselves "gamers" typically discuss. Actual gameplay focused games like a DMC are generally less popular than shit like RDR and The Last of Us. There are plenty of gameplay focused games that aren't sports games, Ninja gaiden for example. These are nowhere to be seen on your list, just sports shit and the occasional multiplayer gameAgain>you're only a gamer if you care about story focused bullshitis disingenuous when i already said>Yeah I wish it weren't the caseI'm tired of this argument since you keep sending bullshit statistics with 100 sports games on them thinking it's proving your point. lets go back to your original statement>most people not really giving a fuck about story or writing in videogamesYou proved yourself wrong sending an image with RDR2 and the Witcher 3 showing that actually plenty of people do care about story in games, so much so that they are some of the highest selling games of all time in a pool of fucking thousands of games, along with the other story focused games I named that were massively popular. You aren't gonna weasel out of the fact you made a fucking retarded ass claim.>Actually games don't have good writing at all!Completely irrelevant to the discussion
Fallout: New Fallout
>>731156217>he sims aren't games that people consider themselves "gamers" typically discussYeah and my point is that people who call themselves "gamer" because they deepthroat shitty story games like New Vegas, Cyberpunk, God of War etc are inflating your opinion of these games massively despite not really making up a majority of actual gamers. Even if you get rid of all the sports games on the list of top 50 best selling games, they are almost all games that people play for the gameplay not the story.>there are plenty of gameplay focused games that aren't sports games, Ninja gaiden for example. These are nowhere to be seen on your listWell yeah not every game can be on the list.>You proved yourself wrong sending an image with RDR2 and the Witcher 3I don't think a couple exceptions to the rule disprove my point. And honestly idk if people even love RDR2 for its story rather than its detailed open world sandbox to play around in like GTA, but I won't discount it.>You aren't gonna weasel out of the fact you made a fucking retarded ass claim.It wasn't retarded though. In literally all the images I posted the majority of the games are not played for their story. The Witcher 3 existing in 1 list doesn't discredit like the 50 other examples contrary. >is disingenuous when i already said Yeah I wish it weren't the caseThen why are you acting like every other game doesn't count and hyperfocusing one like the singular exception? You're acting like guy who bought Elden Ring and cleared it 3 times over is not a REAL gamer because he doesn't engage in pseudo intellectual circlejerking about the lore. Or the guy who plays 1000's of hours of Call of Duty : Slop Ops 27 isn't a REAL gamer because he doesn't play "critically acclaimed" games (which are only critically acclaimed because critics care about writing more than players)>Completely irrelevant to the discussionRelevant to my first post. Though it was more of an addendum rather than an argument.
>>731141652It really is.
