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Why does Tamriel have it out for Khajiit and Argonians, but most people were alright with Orcs?
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Khajiit and Argonians were already recognized as actual people while Orcs were still seen as horrible barbaric Goblins
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>>731142868
>but most people were alright with Orcs?
They really weren't, in fact they weren't even considered as a sapient species before the events of Daggerfall. You might have that impression because Khajiit and Argonians made the bulk of the slaves you saw in Morrowind while orcs were mostly concentrated in very Imperialised areas where people were expected to treat them as equals.
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People still look down on orsimer, but a number of orcs dedicated themselves to proving they could be functional members of society by working as smiths or soldiers for the empire.
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>>731143117
khajits could never
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>>731142868
Because Khajiit and Argonians are all criminal pieces of trash pushing skooma and moonsugar and stealing everything that isn't nailed down, they should all be hanged
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>>731142868
They generaly stick to their strongholds and are good warriors/smiths, that's good enough a reason to trust them more than a filthy cat or lizard
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>>731142868
>but most people were alright with Orcs
Bro orsinium got sacked like 4 times, Highrock and Skyrim despise the orcs for the most part.
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>>731142868
Not me dude I hunted all the camps I could find in Skyrim
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>>731143642
Todd was a pathetic coward for completely glossing over the status of Orcs now that the Empire barely exists and just showing them as living in perfect isolation from the rest of society with no conflict with the Nords.
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>>731142868
>but most people were alright with Orcs?
nigga what are you talking about
hammerfell and high rock used to team up every few decades to sack "orsinium" (read: literal shitskin tel-aviv) just because they thought it was funny
Gortwog had to break time and space just to get the empire to recognize orsinium as a kingdom within High Rock (they still refused to give it provincial status or any serious form of independence)
then Hammerfell and High Rock sacked it again in the 4th era because "haha fuck you poopmer"
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>>731143786
tbf most of the holds would be focused on the war, rather than some random yokel orcs hiding away in the mountains. They don't even raid, so it's easy to keep 'em out of mind.
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>>731142868
Because Orcs are an offshoot of elves, not a beast race. Back when everyone thought Orcs were a beast race they were treated with the same scorn.
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>>731142868
orcs are in regular fantasy. cat people and lizard people aren't
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>>731143642
Every time when orsinium is sacked is mostly due to High rock "frenchmen" wanting free real estate at the wrothgarian mountains, and forcing the redguards into it too, only to backstab them later on.
If not, is because one clan decided to break all of malacath's tenants.
4th orsinium is still going because the Orcs were smart enough to go to the only place Redguards wont go because they dont see it as their own region due to ancient nedic ruins, sacred shit, boethiah's private lounge where she seduces arena champions, and where Bretons wont dare invading because the Dragontail Mountains makes it impossible to travel.
Craglorn, which is also the place where the thalmor isn't daring going by because the orsimer knows the thalmor and they suspect the third sacking had thalmor interests in it.
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>>731144052
But that's the problem, the orcs are somewhat completely insulated from the rest of Skyrim and have 0 conflict with any of the factions there and nobody has a problem with them squatting on Nord land.
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>>731145690
that's because the nords know they'd get their asses kicked
nords haven't been good fighters for like three eras
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>>731142868
Khajiit are all thieves. One of those fucking skooma sucking cats even stole my heart.
They're dangerous, be careful out there dudes.
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>>731145887
Not even the empire or the way of the voice are to blame for this, and jurgen even criticized his own followers in sovngarde.
The nords demonized their own ancient magic prowess over lies, and the nord's best eras always came when clever men were with them.
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>>731142868
Orcs aren't really liked, but they are tolerated because they stick to themselves mostly (and those that don't usually try hard to prove themselves when in Imperial or Nord cultures), and they are very straightforward, they don't try to decieve you, if they have a problem with you then they will tell you to your face, and if they want to kill you then they will announce it and challenge you

Khajit and Argonians can be subersive and sneaky, they will lie, hide, stab someone in the back, etc

A dumb brute is bearable if they are at least completely honest, but a cunning planner could be your friend one minute and ruin your life the next because he was making plans and making you think you were his friend to achieve them.
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Orcs are too commonly used as a black person allegory, making them disliked even in a game like TES where they're not just a blackie caricature is asking to get bad press.
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>>731146545
He's right, those damn khajiits steel my heart nonstop.
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Orcs and Nords are the same to me.
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>>731144158
In-universe, Orcs being elves is still an obscure thing nobody but schizo researchers know about. Even in Morrowind, the Orcs are still described as a beast race by all the NPCs.



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