Honest thoughts on Resident Evil 3: Nemesis?
>>731149936I liked it. RE2 is still the best experience though. RE3's map and puzzles is just kind of meh to me. RE3 is probably the best for no death runs though just because it gives you tons of ammo to kill enemies.
>>731149936It's the first one I played, therefore it's the best classic RE.
>>731149936One of the best survival horror games ever made, and the last GREAT classic style RE.Also has the first, and the best MERCENARIES game mode.It's not a good spot to start with, that much is for sure. It quite literally assumes that you've beaten the classic RE1 and 2 a million times, and thus tries to challenge you.
>>731149936I couldn't play original RE games as a kid because the music creeped me the fuck out. It was also the static camera angles which greatly reduced your visibility in some instances, leaving you only with sound effects of zombies shuffling around off screen. Played RE2 not so long ago as I'd been meaning to do so for a long time. Also played RE2R on release and I gotta say RE2 felt levels more oppressive than RE2R. It's the music, man. Yet to play RE3.
It's ok.
>>731150939Zero should be D7 and 8 should be CRE1R should be S+RE4 should be ARE3 and RE2R should be B
>>731149936very good game, a worthy end to the ps1 trilogy>>7311509393 doesn't deserve to be in the same tier as the remake
>>731149936RE2 is my favorite of the originals but 3 is also very solid.
>>7311499362>CV>3>1
>>731149936both 3s unfortunetly didnt live up to the 2s but were still decent
I don't know. It wasn't that great compared to the prequels. Carlos wasn't a great character, Nemesis' voice was annoying. Jill was nice but it felt shorter with less lore.
>>731151662why do you think REmake deserves to be 2 tiers higher than the original?
>>731151906the originals still good but i just think REmake looks better, feels better and all that lisa trevor stuff they added was creepy and cool as fuck
>>731152207yeah I agree with youI think it's because I also really like the originalone thing I like in the remake is that they made it less linear, it's the kind of thing you don't expect in a remake
>>731149936I liked it better than 1 and 2
>>731149936I like it better than RE2. It's easily my favorite classic RE. Fuck Capcom for ruining the remake.
>>731149936I don't like it as much as I used to, and it used to be my favorite of the three. Now that's RE2.A lot of 3's ideas just seem gimmicky in retrospect. You can hoard gunpowders to just streamroll over the late game (and frankly same for most RE games that feature ammo crafting) and too much of the challenge is skippable with really negligible penalty. The puzzles were mostly good, some of them above par for RE puzzles.
>>731149936Pic rel
>>731149936playing it with biorand mod brought out some issues it has with enemy designhunters have gratuitous i-frames & special aim clauses so when a hunter gamma (frogger) slides to due their ult you need to aim down, same for hunter alpha side slide (gammas dont do this move I think)drain deimos are invulnerable when splaying at their back which should be more vulnerable if anythingdog have 2 staggers, one when they are downed which they just stay in place & when not downed where they are scripted to be flung when knifedmain thrower which is supposed to be the special weapon is just shit & even properly coded (reloading in particular)but there some cool details which you only notice playing a randomizer cuz the guns are OP, like how knifing at a foot or frosting a hunter makes them limp, & how hunter frogs can ult you then another frog can swallow you so it doesnt need to be the same frog ulting & swallowingevasion also is just busted, too bad I'll give you stars patch is only for the ps1 cuz it makes evasion freeze time so it's always a good to do
>>731153336Bingo
Resident Evil 3: NEMESHIT
>>731149936It felt more like a standalone DLC than anything. Very arcade-y and fast, with shitloads more enemies and more combat and the goofy 'action dodge' system. If it wasn't the last of the PS1-era RE games, I would've guessed it was mostly a R&D project for Capcom to design and test ideas for a future RE game.
>>731149936Its cool how it takes place before and after re2. Ties up the RC arc nicely
>>731149936It's easily the best 5th gen RE game, RE1 was an unplayable dumpsterfire due to extreme lack of ammunition and timed segment bullshit.
>>731150939Cringiest tierlist I've seen on this site in a good year
>>731156581Code veronica is the actual resident evil 3, re3 is a shitty side project
>>731156892RE's plot has never made sense, anon. In RE1, you had zombie dogs (and probably hunters) killing hikers and campers in the woods all around Raccoon City. That right there means the zombie apocalypse is about to start because the dogs can run forever in any direction, bite some guy, and infect a different city.I'm hard pressed to think of a major franchise with a plot that makes less sense than Resident Evil's. Maybe Kingdom Hearts.
It’s a lazy asset flip saved by having the genius idea of a super monster that chases you.
>>731157016>RE1 was an unplayable dumpsterfire due to extreme lack of ammunition and timed segment bullshit.Seriously, goyim?
I didn't like Nemesis as a follower, but I admit he and his music made my asshole pucker up like a teenager under a mistletoe.1>2>3. But it's still a more fun game than anything that came after it.
>>731152362Less linear? We're talking about the 2002 remake of Resident Evil 1, correct? The one that makes everything MORE linear? Or is the PS4 version I've played different than the GC version, and somehow the GC version is open world?
>>731157016>extreme lack of ammunitionaim up with the shotgun>>731157578Hes not re2remake tyrant annoying, he only appears in certain spots
I'm picturing RE3 remake in the "good" timeline.>Has all the stuff from the original+more>City section alone is 7 hours long>Freeroaming Nemesis for 90% of that time>On Inferno mode he can hide in save rooms and even destroy certain ones>When Jill reaches the RPD there's also one of the Mr. Xs inside>At a certain point in the game you are being pursued by Mr. X, Nemesis and the giant worm all at the same time
>>731149936second best RE after the original
>>731157652I haven't played any of the remakes, so I can't comment on that. I just didn't like him for some reason. But my ass is clenching a bit even now as I listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqffiEc3zk so they definitely did a good job with him.
>>731157718I don't think it's productive to be so consumed in the What-ifs. The game came out 6 years ago. It'll never be anything else so it's prudent to enjoy it on its own terms or ignore it.
>>731157643yes, specifically the second visit of the mansion which was considerably more linear in the originalthe start of the game is less open, but gets as open as the original after you get the keys, but with now the masks instead of the crests
>>731157718>>731158020Maybe 20 years from now they'll remake it again but get it right this time.
>>731150939In what retarded world is RE4 over 5 and RE4R?
>>731157445Hold on, he might just be regular bad at games and played the original instead of being mega bad at games and having played the Director's Cut
>>731158285In 20 years, hopefully asking for a remake is treated like a joke.
>>731158856Remaking shit games with potential like the original 3 REs is a good thing though,
>>731149936CV is still my favorite and I dont ever want to see it remade bwcause they will fuck it up somehow
>>731159215Can't wait for the Resident Evil 6 remake with an even bigger budget, maybe that will finally kill Capcom for good
>>731159215That's the spirit. You're making it a joke already.
>>731159331They already fucked it up 30 years ago bro
>>731149936One of the best
>>731149936gameplay wise its.... okay. its not as fun to explore as RE2, and the tank controls really didnt help while i was constantly being pursued by nemesis.despite that, its really neat on paper, and did an amazing job keeping me on edge.
>>731159331Based CV enjoyer.
>>731149936Best out of the PS1 games and among the best in the series. Its everything I i wanted outta RE2 and more.
>>731159393Dilate boomertrooner
>>731149936I don't think any modern horror game managed to top how gratifying that final "exterminate the beast" choice was after you spent the entire game being hounded by that freak. Jill is so fucking cool.
https://youtu.be/kb7q01X3zm4?si=PxBf7gBmuZ2J6h8z
>>731157375Don't forget the infected crows.
>>731159550The hits keep coming. Keep up the good work anon.
>>731157375KH has an explanation for everything unlike RE
>>731149936I only had re3 while growing up and I thought it was the worst. I've replayed it now and still think it's the worst
>>731158285>can see that there isn't anything in the chamberis she stupid?
People hated it at launch, but over the years its easily overtaken RE2 as the best of the OG
>>731158673I think people are just, in general, bad at games. Case in point, I'm watching the current GameGrumps playthrough of OG RE2 and it's gone so poorly that he's now using save states to avoid getting BTFO again and again. But the other thing I've observed is he's absolutely not checking random things in the background for ammo/items and otherwise isn't interacting with anything unless it's a visible 3D model or has the 'key item' sparkle.Normalfags absolutely play like that and would find games like the OG RE1 and RE2 almost inscrutable.
>>731156581It was pretty cool storytelling that as the game went on Jill started to dodge even in the cutscenes.I'm still not entirely sure how she managed to push Nemesis off the bridge though when he's like almost double her height and presumably 400 pounds minimum. Even if she's in really good shape it's kind of hard to shove somebody that hard when they are three times heavier than you.
>>731149936the original was probably one of my favorites. my only major complaint is that even for an early RE game there is a lot of fighting. you generally either fight or run in an area, instead of having places that let you take out one or two to make the room more manageable.
>>731159706I always thought it was goofy how there weren't giant, mutant rats and crows because they're the ones who spread the virus in the first and second game. Although, honestly, I'm thankful for it, given how dogshit RE0's 'what if a bunch of insects got really big and mean' theme was.>>731159776Oh, is there some hyper-autistic Japanese writer at Square-Enix who has documented everything in the universe, like Tolkien and all of the LotR appendices?>>731159842>RE3 is better than RE2 with the OG gamesYou are on crystal meth to believe this.
>>731160084>Oh, is there some hyper-autistic Japanese writer at Square-Enix who has documented everything in the universe, like Tolkien and all of the LotR appendices?Yes, that's Nomura and the appendices are the portable games and interviews/Ultimanias
>>731159952He checks lockers sometimes, but that’s it. It’s odd because he’s old enough to have played the original games when they came out.
>>731149936>Honest thoughts on Resident Evil 3: Nemesis?I remember how hating the lack of unique bosses. Nemesis being 90% of them got boring quick.
>>731149936My favorite classic RE. I love the opening and the introduction of the UBCS, love that military outfit and the logo, exploring the city was fun and that's why I love Outbreak because it let me explore even more. It's a shame I can't play a whole campaign as Carlos
>>731150939Kill yourself
I love it. Its a great game. The remake is very meh but not awful.
I was so terrified of Nemesis as a kid I never got past the RPD section. I would turn the console off when he appeared
>>731149936i played it for 15 minutes, tried the new dodge function expecting it to be like DC2. find out the dodge doesn't make you invul which is fine, except that the direction is random so 2/4 of the options gets you hit regardless even if you time it right if next to a wall and 1/4 of the options means if you counter attack after a dodge you can be punished...this is all dictated by RNG. i don't play games with bad mechanics.
Horribly boring game, not scary or entertaining a single second.
>>731149936Pretty good game, much better than RE2. Ignore the zoomers saying otherwise.
>>731160568>The remake is very meh but not awful.I guess you don't really love the OG 3 if you say retarded shit like this
There are a lot of people in this thread that should be killed. These days I don't know who's baiting anymore
>>731159952I hate casuals so much. In no way are OG RE games hard.
>>731160961>"this 1998 game is better than this 1999 game">zoomers
>>731159971>Jill started to dodge in the cutscenesYes, I still appreciate that little bit of attention to detail.>how she pushed Nemesis offIt's just the same kind of hand wave nonsense as to why the Dead Factory not only exists, but is accessible through the public park via a rickety wooden suspension bridge like something out of Indiana Jones.>>731160258I know part of the appeal of the channel is 'lol, he's bad at games,' but shit like refusing to even put two and two together about 'blood pool expands under zombie, which means zombie is dead/dead' piss me off. And it's even funnier to me because I replayed all the old games recently and if you check everywhere, you finish the game with about 5x the ammo you'd need to kill everything>>731160260I think it's literally just Nemesis and the Grave Digger (giant worm in the cemetery) as the game's only bosses, although Nemmy has three different forms.>>731161054That anon's 100% right. The RE3 remake is complete shit that's only good because of the tentacle rape scene with the bugs at the power plant.
>>731161281Especially 2, which is the easiest in the series.
I think its cool if you bought the PS3 versions of RE 1-3 you get the PS5 version for free.Big "Sony Dub" as the kids say.
>>731161320>The RE3 remake is complete shit that's only good because of the tentacle rape scene with the bugs at the power plant.He's not right because he's saying that the game isn't awful, just meh. The game is shit and it's not okay to say that it's okay, meh or fine"
Has there ever been a helicopter in RE history that appeared outside of the finale of the game but didn't end up getting shot down?
>>731161587Agreed. It's one of the worst pieces of shit that released that year. Bug deepthroat doesn't make up for all the flaws.
>>731149936it controls the best out of any of the classic style RE games. nemesis, the randomized enemy encounters, and branching paths give it a lot of replay value where every playthrough can be wildly different. despite all that i still prefer 1, 2, and REmake.
>>731161587Oh, forgive me. You're right to bully him for that brainlet opinion.RE3 is offensively bland to the point I won't do anything but jerk it to the monster porn of Jill getting set upon by different monsters>>731161654The enemy heli at the start of RECV that shoots at Claire doesn't get blown up, but it only appears in CG. And maybe the helicopter Nicolai attacks you with in OG RE3 at the end of the game, if you don't realize you can shoot it down yourself. (If you wait long enough, he just flies off.)
>>731161654RE1, Brad just fly away, what a silly guy that Brad
>>731161703>it controls the best out of any of the classic style RE gamesThis is like saying cowshit tastes the best out of horseshit, dogshit and catshit
>>731161742Ewww...why would you do Jill like that...
>>731161908i know you are but what am i?
>>731161742I hope they get a new model for Jill soon. I don't like slavic Jill and retards here makes me hate her even more>>731161742I could never kill Nicholai, he's too cool.. at least in OG and Outbreak... ORC is okay
>>731149936I prefer RE2, but this one has the better opening cutscene and initial gauntlet to the RPD.
>You want STARS? I'll>gets donkey punchedgreat remake
>>731161908>mental invalid who can't into tank controls is obsessed with scatdownright peculiar
>>731149936best fixed camera REbest RE
>>731162113For me, Jill's best model was the sleepy looking one from the RE1 remake. I think part of the reason I also dislike her RE3 remake model is they turned her character into another insufferable girlboss cliche.
>>731150939you're brown
>>731161654Are we counting cutscene choppers that only appear to drop off Umbrella mercs and BOWs?
>>731162245REmake 1 Jill is still the best, Inezh was really cute too
>the remake is complete shitYou people are no different than women.
>>731162775Care to explain why it isn't one of the most botched adaptions of the original games?
>>731163394I don't know why you bother, he's not going to argue in good faith
>>731150629>One of the best survival horror games ever madeWhy? Compared to tormented souls 1 and maybe another survival horror game. This site is the only place in the net I know of where people have at least halfway decent taste in games. Tiresome, to say the least.
>>731150740>greatly reduced your visibility in some instancesWhich makes it awesome.>>731150939Weird ratings
I like the music a lothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9L0dt70ZX4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ZpiVXa_KAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMIOyDI_BYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQflddDg4o
>>731158020>The game came out 6 years agoGoddamnit
>>731163394>>731163507Probably because the base gameplay itself is pretty good. It's just as smooth as RE2R was and it's pretty easy to dodge this time around. It's not a bad game, it's just way too compressed.
>>731149936A peak entry in the series, and just as good as RE1 and 2. It's a damn shame that Capcom looks down on it, as it's far better than CV. It was deserving of a REmake with far more love than it got.
>>731159479so a shitty action game ? its literally an action quip game that pushes you to get on with all the time erasing any horror elements besides hurr nemesis jumps to you trough a window TM while having fucking crafting ammo mechanic i na horror gameresident evil 2 shits on it so hard its not even funny
>>731165080RE2 is JUST as much of an action game, just with worse and clunkier gameplay. No, a few explosive barrels does not change the genre.
>>731165148>RE2 is JUST as much of an action game, just with worse and clunkier gameplay.Ehh, I would say 2 did it better at conveying itself like as surival horror game than 3 did where Jill is somehow able to beat a military grade bioweapon in here miniskirt and heels where as 2 is Leon and Claire held up in a police departement until the last thirty minutes of the game.
>>731165148in 2 i replayed trough all 4 scenarios back to backin 3 i stoped playing it after 10 minutesi guess people have diffrent taste i really disliked 1 og but really liked the remake
>>731165275I dunno what's the point of bringing up Jill's miniskirt when Claire is dressed like a whore in OG RE2. Not to mention their STARS costumes in RE1 seem more like cosplay, which adds to the charm imo.
SAAAAARS
>>731165275I'm not arguing which is more of a horror game, I'm arguing that in terms of gameplay - they're just as much of an action game as one another considering what you're doing. Jill is also far better trained than Leon or Claire was at that point, being basically being special forces soldier. The fact that for a new player, the unpredictability of Nemesis would scare the fuck out of them as well.I'm not arguing which is a better game btw, because I see them as just as good as one another. 3 is just more refined than 2 in gameplay, but they're both action games.
>>731165380Because you became fixated on a few changes that irked you. I can understand that, and several games have done the same for me - but when I gave 3 am honest chance, I loved it just as much. I hope you give it a shot again, because you have another golden waiting for you.. but yes, each to their own.
>>731165640>Another golden classicFixed, I'm oxygen deprived
>>731165416>I dunno what's the point of bringing up Jill's miniskirt when Claire is dressed like a whore in OG RE2.Claire is just rolling into town, looking for her brother. Meanwhile Jill stayed in town while it falls apartt and thought "yeah, I should look like I'm going to the club while in a city of monsters." It's dumb.
>>731165748Imo I think it's just because they wanted to emphasize how hot she is. Tbh though, I always play with the STARS outfit because I adore the way she looks in that. It's also one reason I hate REmake 3, as they butcher that costume
>>7311656403 og is one of the best speedrunning games ever made, thats itit rushes you so much that it loses any horror elementsthe camera angles compared to 2 are to action focused you can see literally everythingin 2 you are fucking scared to go behing a corridor3 intro animation is the best i will admit that besides that its shit compared to 2 like in 2 you basicaly crrawl trough the game not run at mach speed>>731165572>gameplay3 is just 2 sped up 2 times in every roomit doesnt make the gameplay better
>>731165748>Claire is just rolling into townDressed like a whore?
>>731149936It's great but RE2 is better looking bad Jill is my favorite RE protag
>>731150939>average 4zoomer tier list
>>731165148I actually think RE2 is better as an action game than RE3 just with the way enemy placements are laid out with the way hitboxes work like the shotgun spread. It's not exactly DMC yet but a lot of the foundation is there. The only thing that makes RE2 clunkier is the lack of quickturn, and RE3 isn't good enough with its action set pieces for the quickturn alone to elevate it above RE2. I S ranked both on Japanese Hard mode in December and I don't remember any encounter in RE3 as well set up as the East 1F Hallway in RE2's B scenario. RE3 was kinda boring 2bh and I'm still not over it.And the pacing isn't as good, but anyone vaguely read on RE3's development knows to not harp on that too much. RE2's pace turns into greased lightning after the first boss.
>>731165967I disagree because the enemies in 3 are far more aggressive and unpredictable than anything in 2. Combat encounters are much harder to gauge, especially when zombies go turbo. I feel the faster gameplay was meant to be a further challenge for anyone that got good at 2, and for me - that makes it scarier. I don't think the atmosphere suffered much either. It still has excellent, haunting music like 2.
stupid third wheel jill
I think another factor in this RE2 vs RE3 discussion is how much you want to weigh your first playthrough vs replays. RE2 is a game that you can basically pinpoint to a science, and I think that RE3's RNG is something that should be taken into a consideration.
>>731166202i just like re2 exoposition alot more, its just a cutscene, where its always 2 people dumping lore, which i like alot, but it makes sensein 3 its every cutscene is people talking then nemesis busts in trought whereeverits anoying, as i said to much pushing the pacein 1 og its the oposite, it kills the fucking gameplay2 og is just my pace, and the music and athmosfere is just chefs kiss
Resident Evil 3 really is just a DLC story, holy shit. It doesn't expand on what 1 and 2 laid out. CVX really needs a remake STAT.
>>731166659I doubt cv will be any good. Re0r might be the only good one after re4r. Fingers crossed for re5r.
It's funny as fuck that out of the two remakes of the original RE2/RE3, RE2's implementation of Mr.X is a way better stalker enemy than Nemesis. It's a complete inverse born out of corporate fuckery.I thought Brad having a heroic death is a nice change but then again getting nibbled by a zombie in the most retarded way possible and taking away from the shock value of Nemesis completely fucking his ass is objectively worse. I don't think the remake has anything good in it. Maybe Nikolai's forehead and hairline being modeled on Jiyuna?
>>731166462I honestly don't see the reason to shit on any of the two games. I like both but I like 3 more, no need to say that RE2 is a wet fart because of that, people here forget that they can like two different things at the same time. Also the gameplay discussion is ridiculous, the only thing I agreed is that I have a more comfy time playing 2 because I don't have a killer machine stalking me
>>731166938>I don't think the remake has anything good in it.The gameplay is great but wasted on a game that's five hours long.
>>731166938>I thought Brad having a heroic death is a nice changeHe could had an heroic death against Nemesis instead, saving Jill but I guess that was too hard. Nemesis is a joke, the game is a joke and I hate it with all my soul
>>731150939Somewhat based taste.Don't listen to the rest of /v/, it's continually shown in these threads that most people here have barely played any of the games.
>>731166938>remakesWho cares, they failed to live up to the original games and Crapcom ain't gonna change anything. They effectively replaced the classics with soulless new versions.
>>731167120I guess I liked the dodge implementation, probably the only thing that's better than how the OG RE3 did it, you're right.>>731167251Yeah, it fucking sucks. They gave him some nice characterization and implied he's not actually that much of a pussy since he made it into STARS and evaded Nemesis before Jill met him.
>>731167293>R3make about RE2makeNigga what lol
