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What the fuck were they thinking?
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Are dragons scared of fairies in real life or something? I don't understand the typing.
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>>731164097
Appeal to females
Accidentally appealed to males who pretend to be female
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Sex with sylveon (male)
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>>731164097
>What the fuck were they thinking?
That dragon type was too strong.
I haven't played Pokémon since Crystal and even I know that.
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>>731164470
Instead they made a type that's even more OP than dragon
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>>731164097
>(((simultaenous worldwide release)))
>introduced faggot type
>dropped sprites for ugly 3D models
>sucks off KANTOOOOOOOO nonstop to the point where the first wild pokemon you encounter is coded to always be pidgey
>insultingly easy, even by pokemon's low standards
>only had like 70 new mons compared to BW's 150
XY was a mistake
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>>731164097
Fun fact.
A Pokemon only actually falls under the fairy type if they actively and commonly attempt to seduce humans.
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>>731164297
Projecting faggotry onto Sylveon is a sure sign that you genuinely are a faggot deep in your soul.
Japan pretty much exclusively draws Sylveon as a female.
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>>731164501
That's because poison and steel are dogshit offensively and the devs don't want to fix it.
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>>731164501
This, holy shit
Dragon might have been too strong but Ice Beam being in every other move pool kept them on their toes at least
Poison and Steel has fuck-all in comparison
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>>731164561
>sylveon
:/
>sylveon japan
:O
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>>731164723
No Sylveon is the same it's your gay ass perception that's different
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>>731164097
Make fairy weak to bug.
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>>731164097
>We need to nerf Dragons
>We need to do something about Outrage
>We should probably do something about U-Turn spam too
>We'll make a new type, immune to Dragon, we'll make it weak to shit offensive types so all Dragons have to use worse coverage from now on, and uh we'll make it resist U-turn, no one cares about Bugs anyway
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>this will bring gays to our game!
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>>731164821
Only if U-turn gets nerfed
Seriously Bug as an offensive type will always be held back by U-Turn being on half the mons in the game and being stupidly good
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Rate my current Platinum team
>Prinplup
>Luxio
>Ponyta
>Meditite
>Bronzor
>Staravia
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its almost as though Pokemon's rock paper scizor mechanics... are dumb as fuck?
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>>731164097
I want to fuck Mega Audino
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Xerneas doesnt get nearly as much hate as I'd like.
Needs more guro art.
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>>731164097
The only fairy type that's super strong right now is Clef. Fat fuck never dies.
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>>731164520
You forgot
>>>>>>only 1 (ONE) new bug type
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING
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>>731165296
Why would you ever need more
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>>731164804
>perception
:/
>perception japan
:O
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>>731164097
Combining it with Psychic to create the apex predator.
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>>731164470
>>731164501
Wasn't the whole point of dragon types that they're supposed to be super strong late game pokemon, which is why most of them are pseudos or legendaries? Doesn't adding a new type that counters them so hard defeat that?
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>>731165596
Early and late game do not matter for compsloppers
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>>731164097
They needed a counter to dragons but don't know how to design workable ice types without jacking up their stats to legendary levels (which still rarely worked to offset their terrible weaknesses.)
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>>731165596
Pokemon pivoted from being balanced around single player progression, to being balanced around PVP and just fuck it give the player a handheld nuke launcher every title nobody cares anyway.
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>>731165347
Pinsir is always such a headache to obtain, I probably wouldn't know it even exists if it wasn't for the show.
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>>731165347
>pinsir
Unusable
>heracross
Not even a top 2 bug in its own generation
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What does it mean to be immune to dragon?
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>>731165772
Is Scissor still GOAT or did powercreep finally do it in?
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>>731164520
>>(((simultaenous worldwide release)))
Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Games coming out like a year later in America and a month later in Europe was fucking stupid.
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>>731165772
>add steel to pokemon
>it's 3x cooler
works every time
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>>731165786
What does it mean to be immune to anything?
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>>731165824
Still alive and kicking believe it or not
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>>731165898
Technician STAB Bullet Punch and STAB U-Turn is just nasty
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>>731164156
Haven't you seen Sleeping Beauty? Every spell the evil dragon lady has is countered by the fairy's magic
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>>731165786
What does it mean that one kind of fire move is typed fire and the other one is typed dragon?
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>>731165883
there's some kind of logic behind all the previous immunities
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>>731166003
>Technician STAB Bullet Punch
Does pokeymen MP really rely on moves with 60 power? I thought they'd all be spamming hyperbeams and shit
t. never played MP and never will
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>>731166184
Okay then, why can't psychic affect dark?
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They should have made Fairy weak against Bug instead of resisting it.
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>>731164097
they were thinking "we need to buff gardevoir and mawile" and they are so real for that
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>>731164160
A tale old as time.
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mawile
pronounced mah willy
i laugh at so many of its moves
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>>731166217
>60 BP moves
Scizors ability technician boosts the power of those moves. U turn is 70, though. Most 100+ BP moves only go to 1 or 2 pokemon or have a big downside
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>>731167548
>Scizors ability technician boosts the power of those moves
Yeah I said bullet punch, 40 x 1.5 = 60
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>>731164097
>ummm let's add a new type to counter dragons, outrage spam is too strong
>also let's make it resist every popular attacking type, like bug! bug is strong right everyone spams u-turn so it must be
>and to balance it lets make it only weak to two of the worst offensive types ever made with no fucking coverage at all
>let's also spam it everywhere and make every cute pokemon part fairy because it's the cute type
>yes perfect we aren't recreating gen 1 psychic at all, see it's weak to poison that means it's balanced. ship it
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isn't it about time they added a new typing
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>>731169290
Why put effort into any new game if people have proven time after time that they'll eat whatever slop they shit out anyway
Expect gen 10 to become the best selling gen ever (right above gen 9)
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>>731164943
pick up a gliscor
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>>731164097
>We want the furry audience
They succeeded
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>>731164156
The type literally just exists to counter Dragon because it had no effective counter-play to itself except for itself. Ice is the single most dogshit typing in the game and by far. Unironically it's best to run a Water mon with Ice Beam and lose out on STAB than have that utter dogshit typing bring down your defences like a sack of bricks.
Plus they needed to asspull a type they could add retroactively to previous generations otherwise they'd need to design like 20-30 mons (including entire evo lines) for one type in one generation to compensate for the decade they didn't exist. You can tell it was desperate because only like two or three mons aren't dex padders with utter garbage stats.
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It wasn't even until they gave Salamence moxie for ZERO reason that people began to think
>okay maybe dragon only being resisted by steel is KIND of retarded
outside of that, it wasn't that dragon as a type was op, it's that
>600BST pokemon with gigantic movepools were OP
Salamence was eventually banned in gen 4 OU because it had like 7 different viable builds and you had NO idea which one it was until it had killed something
Same for Garchomp. Same for Latias.
But of course game freak were either too stubborn or too retarded to just make Ice resist dragon and dragon weak to poison so here comes Fairy type out of nowhere.
That also resists Bug.
For some reason.
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>>731169290
Light type has needed to exist forever.
Like look at shit like Necrozma.
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>>731164097
Sex with Tapu Lana
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>>731169648
>dark is immune to light type physical attacks
>dark is weak to light type special attacks
>light is immune to dark type special attacks
>light is weak to dark type physical attacks
Make it happen GF
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>>731169648
Just make light and sound types to round the number to a nice 20 types, and make both strong against fairy. Done.
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>>731169603
I had fun killing dragons with my Mamoswine :)
>b-but comp
Don't care
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>>731169290
>>731169648
Sound should be a type. It already has a metric ton of moves and abilities that revolve around it and its special mechanics (soundproof, bypassing substitute, etc)
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My favorite type is normal
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>>731169856
wait, you don't think an ice/ground type with 130 attack and a stab priority move would have seen competitive play?
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>>731164097
Incredibly based type.
My pink blob from the Moon will now proceed to fuck your throat, dragonfag.
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>>731169983
Anon said ice is bad, I told him I had fun with an ice mon
Can't even begin to pretend to care about what you're implying about compslop
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>>731169856
so you swept the toddler game with your 130 ATK glass cannon, now try fighting an opponent that isn't running a team of 4 mons with their level-up movesets and doesn't know how to switch. proud of you for beating a game that can be beaten even with a shitmon like ariados lil bro
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>>731170030
everyone has fun with ice type mons until they have to take a hit
that's the point of them
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>>731170080
Thanks :)
Keep jerking off how good you are at said toddler game
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>>731170080
>now try fighting an opponent that doesn't know how to switch
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>>731169856
Mamoswine is one of the best ice types due to being a badass mammoth and part ground anyway. based mamoswine enjoyer
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>>731170240
you can tell he reworded it halfway through and didn't check it properly
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>>731169652
sex with lele's ass
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>>731169856
mamoswine is good because he's fast(ish) and hits hard, DESPITE his typing. just because he makes it work with his hyper-offensive stats and kit. weavile is the same. they exist to dish out a beating while not being able to take any themselves.
ask yourself why you were running mamoswine and not something like glalie despite both having access to icicle crash and ice shard and earthquake.
most ice types do not have the things mamoswine has going for it.
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>>731170527
its high attack makes use of ice shard's fast priority for revenge killing or chip damage
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>>731170669
>ask yourself why you were running mamoswine and not something like glalie
Cause Glalie looks retarded and I don't think it's even in HeartGold anyway
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>>731169856
bro is still riding the hype of one-shotting cynthia's "infamous" garchomp with 4x priority move lmao
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>>731170938
Maybe you should make a team with anything but your overlevelled starter sometime and you'd have similar memories
I remember Ampharos as my last pokemon just barely thunder punching Kingdra to death while at red health
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>>731170938
i can guarentee you that 99.999% of players who beat cynthia the first time in a playthrough were not marching up there with an EV trained mamoswine
maybe on a difficulty mod or nuzlocke but not a regular cartridge playthrough
also cynthia's AI was retarded in diamond & pearl and the reason you died was because she just straight statchecked you
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>>731171085
>EV trained
what an odd thing to bring up. why would you think a 130 ATK mon needs EV training to oneshot at a 4x weakness? be honest.
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>>731171184
garchomp isn't that frail and unless your mamoswine is also level 60+ you're not oneshotting it with a 40BP move even with stab and 4x weakness
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>>731164160
>Accidentally appealed to males who pretend to be female
>females now averse to it because its surrounded by trannies
Yup. Congrats nintendo
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>Swap in Ice type
>get Break Breaked/Fire Punched/Fire Fanged/Flamethrowerd/Fire Blasted
Thus Fairy was born because it's hard for Dragons to check both Fairy and Ice at once.
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>>731171229
cynthia's garchomp is level 66. if you're taking a level 60 to the E4 you're underleveled, plain and simple. regardless a level 60 mamoswine with 0 EVs and a negative ATK nature still does a good chunk of damage to her garchomp.
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>>731171582
you're right, but in context we're going off >>731170938 here, which simply doesn't happen unless you are at least level 77, with less levels required the better your ATK IVs or EVs are
>Lvl 77 0+ Atk 0 IVs Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. Lvl 66 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 204-240 (85.3 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
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>>731171893
also I may be misremembering but I think cynthia's garchomp had 30 in every IV, I forgot to change from 31, if it's 0 then obviously the level requirement dips a bit further
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Great. Now I want to play Pokemon. Thanks faggots. Which one do I play?
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>>731172064
White
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>>731172064
Earliest I can recommend is Emerald
Platinum and HGSS also good, but turn the sound down for the latter.
Otherwise B2W2.
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>>731172064
Pokemon Showdown if you just want to battle
Pokemon Pathways or one of the numerous good romhacks if you want a full game
Fuck the actual mainline games at this point Gamefreak has zero soul
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>>731170631
Can you U-Turn into your homie (me)? I'd need a turn.
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>>731171893
Okay but chances are your Mamoswine doesn't have 0 ATK EVs or IVs and a negative personality either. Just having an average 15 ATK IVs turns Ice Shard into a guaranteed 2HKO at level 60. And if you've been using him semi-regularly he should should have ~60 EVs at least. Give him a Nevermelt-Ice and he starts chunking upwards of 70% of Garchomp's health. It adds up quick.
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>>731172064
Pokemon Unbound. Fuck the official games.
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>>731164097
They had one job and fucked it up
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>>731172335
somewhat off-topic but I had to check how you even get mamoswine in diamond & pearl
turns out you have to wait for swinub to be "swarming" (if that's post-game or not, idk) since they otherwise don't show up.
if it is post game then outside of trading you can't actually have mamoswine for your first clear of the elite four.
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>>731164520
I played every gen up to and including X and Y and that was the gen that broke me. I was the type of kid that would constantly get on Serebii and my DS was basically just a Pokémon machine since I played little else on it. I’m glad that X and Y turned me off from the series cause it just got worse from there. I couldn’t imagine being hyped for Sword and Shield or Scarlet and Violet.
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>>731164097
>fairy already resistant to all the badass types
>instead of throwing bug types a bone and making fairy weak to bug they make fairy RESIST bug types
Im convinced fairy only resists bug to remove one of gardevoir's weaknesses. Would have been kino if they gave her a QUAD WEAKNESS to it instead. Fuck gamefreak
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>>731172476
Yeah swarms are postgame
Anyway, see >>731170812
I'm the dude who brought up Mamoswine and I have no idea why anon immediately started talking about Diamond
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>>731169603
Couldn't they just... make Ice immune to Dragon instead of adding the tranny type?
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>>731172203
>Pokemon Pathways
Against my better judgement I'm going to try this.
>>731172395
That game pisses me off. I like that it has hard shit to fight, but am pissed I have to constantly change my lineup. I didnt get very far. Maybe I'm just a shitter.
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>>731172064
I played a romhack called Emerald Seaglass a while back and it was a good time
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>>731166340
Does she you know with the crickets?
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>>731169290
the only two times theyve added types its been to nerf an overbearing type from the previous gen which doesnt apply to anything right now
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>>731172568
if you mean >>731171085 that was me, since her appearance in gen 5 wasn't really as notable apart from how she's just sitting in some unmarked house and pounces on you the moment you enter
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>>731172576
no because most dragon types also learn fire-type moves which minces ice-types, and they absolutely will because they have superior (special) attack and speed, despite the STAB loss
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>>731164097
>kills the dragon meta
>kills the weather wars
>makes old pokemon meta now
>accidentall introduce Scald and Knockoff meta.
>soclose.jpg
>>731165596
using pve balancing for pvp is retarded in literally any game. obviously pvp'ers arent going to be held back. You need to have fully EV'd level 100's to even begin competing
>>731169512
this. you have a massive ground weakness. drop bronzor, you already have a steel type in empoleon and a psychic type in medicham
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>>731172735
>no because most dragon types also learn fire-type moves
Kinda like how all the dragon types know iron head and poison jab anyway?
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>>731172735
And Water types learn Ice Beam to cover the Dragon and Grass types that resist them. Nobody has trouble dealing with Water types regardless.
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Hydreigon and Conkeldurr were overused during 5th Gen. They made Fairy to nerf not 1 but 3 Types all at once (Dark, Dragon, Fighting).
Fairy was so good that weak Pokemon like Marill and Mawile became gods.
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>>731164097
nothing, head empty
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>>731172861
are you really going to waste a precious move slot for a move that is only useful against a specific type? come on now anon

>>731172907
but water types don't have an inherent stat advantage over electric/grass types. if something lives that no-STAB ice beam your water type is going to get BTFO. assuming you outspeed in the first place (good luck against electrics).
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>>731165824
Scizor has been bouncing between UU and OU since Gen 7. It's usually the glue holding UU together, and the couple of times OU steals Scizor end up resulting in several quickbans in UU as the things Scizor checked become overbearing.

Believe it or not, the latest time Scizor rose to OU was because it fucks up Weezing. It just ended up falling back to UU this month because Weezing users gave up one of their STABs (usually their Fairy STAB) to slot in Will-o-Wisp for Scizor.
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>>731173076
>gholdengo
if any mon in existence has ever existed as proof gamefreak wants to shit on competitive whenever they can, this is it
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>>731172970
>Hydreigon and Conkeldurr were overused during 5th Gen. They made Fairy to nerf not 1 but 3 Types all at once (Dark, Dragon, Fighting).
the one type fighting type was based and not unironically worse than Normal and they nerfed it
>>731172970
>Fairy was so good that weak Pokemon like Marill and Mawile became gods
Azumarill was already OU in Gen 5
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>>731172861
steel and poison sucking ass offensively is a big part of why fairy is good
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>>731172064
i found infinite fusion interesting, i went in blind.
what i don't like is how often i broke the game in half so bad i had to shelf a mon simply because it trivialized the game. probably best to turn your brain off and use your favorite custom sprites for the most part.
also never use slaking
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>>731173186
qrd?
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>>731172064
>>731173365
Adding to this play Kuray's Infinite Fusion instead and pre download the KIF sprite pack directly into the folder. It's just better in everyway. Fucm Infinite Fusion for taking away Fusion breeding and not allowing unfusing trades. The game is already broken as fuck, just let it be a fun sandbox.
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>>731173474
its ability, good as gold, means your opponent can't use status effect moves, including volatile ones. no leech seed. no defog, no curse, etc.
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>introduce a Mega Evolution that has a new typing
>forget to give it moves
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
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>>731164097
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>>731173474
>Immune to all status
>Immune to Normal type moves (Rapid Spin)
>Completely immune to all forms of hazard removal except for the 2 Pokemon with hazard removal moves and an ability-ignoring-ability (Weezing, Hawlucha)

You shit out hazards on your opponent's side of the field and then use Gholdengo to block any attempt at removing those hazards for the rest of the game.
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>>731173516
>look at feature list
>see this
it's all so tiresome
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>>731169652
Stay on topic pedo. If you want a Lana thread, make your own, preferably on a red board where it belongs since you fags are incapable of holding a single pokegirl thread without talking about sex and only sex and without posting literal porn
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>>731174023
i didn't know you shitpost on /v/ too, prudefag. go back to sharty
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I can't believe Tyranitar made it back to OU for the first time in 4 years. We need to start using more Fighting types because this cannot be allowed to stand.
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>>731174104
>Torterra higher tier than Chansey and Goodra
You love to see it
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>>731173474
awful design
cancer typing
blocks everything
legal horrible bioweapon
actually makes Weezing have usage solely to deal with it while it does nothing against everything else
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>>731174187
>legal horrible bioweapon
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>>731173959
Yeah. PIF and KIF are discord games, what do you want from me.
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>>731174187
>>731174243
now i need a qrd on what a horrible bioweapon is
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>>731173659
>>731173949
Didn't Magic Guard do it first anyway?
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>>731174423
This picture. An e-celeb furfaggot on an autistic crusade against Smogon and his incredibly autistic fanbase whine about certain Smogon bans. Someone made this image to completely assravage them and they still haven't recovered.

Yes, the furfag is Verlisify the lolcow
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>>731173365
Infinite Fusion is fun. Base game is pretty easy, so randomised is best way to go. It's fun to try and find good sprites or make stupid teams work.
Just make sure someone on your team has a good rock move.
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>>731164097
The games fucking suck anyway and they refuse to move on from rps, might as well add new types to create layers of memorization.

If anything they should've been adding more random bullshit types to at least keep new pokemon fresh, there's no reason to have another plain jane electric type rodent/3 stage ghost/2 stage normal rodent/3 stage bird in the game.
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>>731174663
Magic Guard doesn't stop all status moves. Good as Gold stops an entire move category
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>>731173018
>are you really going to waste a precious move slot for a move that is only useful against a specific type?
>are you really gonna run counterattacking options?
Nani the fuck kind of question is this. Also they arent just useful for a single type you knob, they still provide coverage over more types than fairy alone.

Jesus christ /v/ is NOT the place to be discussing pokemon
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>>731174798
Wait so it's almost like a permanent taunt?
Holy fuck what were they thinking.
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>>731173365
Picking your favorite custom sprites is the only way to enjoy IF.
>you are of age now, <PLAYERNAME>, you must choose:
>the dumbest looking Pokemon of Mass Destruction in existence, 150 BP attack with no downsides whatsoever carried by a 110+ SpA and 130+ SpD (pic related)
>an entire harem of half-gardevoirs
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>>731173307
>fairy is only good because people refuse to run moves that are super effective against it
People are stupid jfc
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>>731174889
Permanent as long as Gholdengo is on the field, yes.
>Holy fuck what were they thinking.
"We want to make the Pokemon we added to shill Pokemon Go strong enough that everyone will consider using it"
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>>731164097
if that one leak or whatever where they talk about how they have to do weird shitty designs because fans already made all the good ones is any indication, there probably weren't any good choices for a new type for them to use without stepping on someone's toes
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>>731164097
>Dragons are busted so how do we fix dragons?
>Make a new type that is immune to Dragons.
>But then our new Fire/Dragon Charizard would get killed by some pink piece of shit.
>Alright, Fire now resists Fairy so the new Charizard ends up neutral.
I can pretty much guarantee that was 90% of the thought process behind the Fairy typing. I am still confused as to why Fairy resists Bug, as if Bug needed another nail in its coffin.
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>>731164543
you mean to tell me that Toad From Super Mario Bros. fucks human men?
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>>731174934
That thing is based.
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>>731164520
You were a mistake but your mother still kept you
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>>731175059
If Bug was no longer resisted by Ghost and Fairy it wouldn't even be in the bottom 1/3rd of types anymore. It'd be de facto better than Ice, Rock, Grass, Normal, Psychic, and maybe even Poison.
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>>731172816
>medicham
>using psychic attacks
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>>731174736
>Infinite Fusion
I'm cumming
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>>731175059
>why does X resist bug
Tinted Lens but they keep forgetting to put it on things with actual stats. Lokix is actually strong and its stats are almost merely mediocre, this is what the ability does with a mediocre attack stat
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>>731174736
>go to find my old IF hall of fame
>almost 3 years ago already
Damn
Loved these niggas though, especially Snornoir and his golden nipples
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>>731174972
The thing is that other than killing fairies,
>poison only hits grass types hard (assuming they they have a secondary type that resists it like 50% of them do), is useless against steel which is another very common type, and resisted by poison itself, ground, rock and ghost, which are all common enough types
>steel is only strong against ice and rock which are frail as fuck anyway, and resisted by steel itself, elec, water and fire which are also very common types
So basically you sacrifice a slot to fuck fairies but it's basically wasted as it's not even good enough for dealing neutral damage to most things. Might as well just use a decent coverage move to supplement your main STAB.
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>>731174972
Poison and Steel are dogshit offensive types because they don't have good offensive options. Poison can't touch Steel types whatsoever, and Steel is so good that you're almost guaranteed to be using one. Steel doesn't have any good offensive options, with Iron Head and Flash Cannon both being only 80 base power. Not to mention Water, Fire, Electric, and yes, Steel, all resist Steel making it easy to have and answer to both of Fairy's weaknesses by just running... a Steel type.
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>>731175281
Pretty sure Buneary/Lopunny was one of the first lines to have a sprite for every possible fusion. You've got a good chance of finding a good sprite if you can get a Buneary early.
>>731175317
Big fan of the hitmontop/klinklang
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I think the best proof of how even GameFreak knows how busted fairies are is how they didn't retype Blissey to fairy despite doing it to every other gen 1 pink blob.
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>>731174934
Good thing it's still a pokemon game with a braindead AI so I don't have to worry about dragging my team down with shitty fusions.
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>>731172064
Emerald imperium is the most goated gba from hack
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>>731174889
>taunt
Not quite. You can still use status moves that dont target it. So you could still spike, swords dance, rain dance, etc
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>>731174934
IF gets broken in half about twenty different ways anyway
>Slaking + Azumarill with 150+ Atk and Huge Power
>Marowak fusions that can use Bone Club to double their attack
>Shedinja... just Shedinja
I had to consciously avoid using the really busted shit to enjoy my playthrough
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>>731174086
>B-but muh prude
It's almost as this board on /vp/ were blue boards, stop being autistic and fuck off back to the red boards if you want to goon as blue boards are not the place to make pedogooner threads. Even fucking Chris Chan would have understood that
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>>731166340
based
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>>731176250
Absolutely wild that only one Bug-type has ever won the World Championships and it's fucking Escavalier
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>>731176371
Bug was a solid lower-mid-tier type in Gen 5 before Fairy fucked it sideways.

But also, VGC just isn't conducive to defensive types doing well. Bug is still solid defensively, but offensively it's the worst type. In singles, Bug is much better since it can eat Earthquake, Close Combat, and Wood Hammer for its team. In doubles, you can just hit its teammate.
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>>731176250
>the fucking pachirisu
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>>731176714
It's legendary. I can't believe Goy Freak hasn't given it an evolution/mega/regional form/gigantamax form/etc
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>>731176714
Options were pretty fucking limited in XY's regional dex if you wanted a paralysis-spreading redirecter with some bulk
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>>731164097
they were thinking of you
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>>731164097
it's a fine typing, I like the mons. The problem with fairy iirc is that it only further weakened other typings but only competitive trannies care about that. t. never looked back after playing the 3ds games
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>>731164097
They were thinking of all the cute plushes they can sell
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>>731177561
This. Game Freak was literally just thinking about how they could get more girls into Pokemon since girls buy significantly more merch/get more merch bought for them.
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"Fairy should be weak to Bug" is such a band-aid fix
The broken type combos like Ghost/Fairy and Steel/Fairy take it neutrally, while coping types like Grass/Fairy and Psychic/Fairy get turbo fucked
Bug is still shit because it's still resisted by 1/3 of the types in the game
The better Bug buff is remove the resists from Ghost, Fairy, Fighting and possibly Steel so you can actually do reliable damage, and purge non-Bug U-Turn
The better Fairy nerf is beat all Fairy legendaries with hammers. 9/10 of them are an afront to God. Gut their movepools or something. Also nerf Moonblast to 90 accuracy
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>>731175195
Technically we don't know that to be true
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>>731177829
>while coping types like Grass/Fairy and Psychic/Fairy get turbo fucked
Oh no, Fairy will have to suffer what it did to Fighting/Dark, Fighting/Dragon, and Dragon/Dark types...
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>>731177829
Bug is basically supposed to be bad by design so you don't end up sticking with these fast evolving pokemon from the start of the game.

I know there's more to bug now but in essence this is why the type is still bad.
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>>731178131
It's more like Game Freak doesn't know how to buff the type without nerfing something they don't want to nerf. It's better that Bug gets nerfed to make something better than to alleviate Bug's burdens since Bug is probably the least popular type among female fans.
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It’s literally just the girl appeal typing created for advertising and excuses to make more Pokemon that look like hello kitty characters. Ironically, the only memorable Fairy type mons are either named Sylveon or they came from gens 1-3 because that’s when GF was actually good at making appealing designs.
Gamefreak in general 6 probably thought people wanted less cool and more cute designs (ffs, look at Goodra), when in reality we just wanted good pokemon that actually looked like Pokemon. Kalos remains the most forgettable dex next to the switch era. Worst gym leaders and champion as well.

>>731169603
Ironically, giving rock types effective STAB moves and buffing existing rock types would also be an immaculate counter to a lot of dragon types since some of the strongest are Dragon/Flying. But Gamefreak hates and regrets making rock type pokemon as a whole
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I want to play a pokemon rom with entirely fakemon
I already beat Clover and had a lot of fun, what's another one?
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>>731178291
I don't think gamefreak thinks that deeply about it because I don't think they consider all the types equally, I think they see the types through the main archetypes related to the types first and everything else second so they can create a streamlined design for their games.

Only pokemon types that you get later in the game are worth considering for balance, bug and normal will basically always stay where they are because they can create easy fodder designs for them.

The rattata clone, the pidgey clone, the caterpie/weedle clones, there are exceptions to this rule, bug-type should've been changed with gen 8 for example because centiskorch and frosmoth were both bug-types that would define gyms that come later in the game but that obviously didn't happen because it would compromise the caterpie/weedle clone design for future titles
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>>731171582
>if you're taking a level 60 to the E4 you're underleveled
lolwut. If you level everyone evenly and hit every trainer on the way and never swap out any mons mid-playthrough you MIGHT have a full team of level 50s (or maybe one mon in the mid 50s with others in the high 40s) by the time you get to the pokemon league and it's perfectly possible to beat them like that. You will not have a team of 60s, let alone higher than that unless you're deliberately grinding.
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>>731174178
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
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>>731164691
Ice also had uses outside of hitting dragons so it was good for coverage even without dragon's being part of the calculation. Poison and Steel are LOL tier offensive types that don't compliment well with anything.
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>>731165347
heracross was mahboi.
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>>731178982
All he had to do was get rid of his shell.
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>>731179063
It's cool that he's received just enough buffs over the years to stay at the edge of viability. You CAN make him work competitively, he just requires an immense amount of support.
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>HAHAHHAHA
>IT KILLS CORVIKNIGHT
>IT KILLS OTHER POKEMON FOR FUN
>ITS SO EPIC FUNNAY

They are trying way too hard with fairy types and it’s kind of sad.
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>>731164097
>Dragon is only weak to both itself and Ice Beam/Blizzard
>Let's not act like Ice Pokemon are real
>Need a type to balance that out
>Add it while retroactively trying to buff weak attacking types like Poison and Steel
>Balance shit even further by retrofitting a lot of mons into it, making it quite easy to get
Get fucked dragontard
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>>731179232
It's even funnier because Corviknight actually has a winning matchup against Tinkaton. Unless Corv is only packing Brave Bird or U-turn as its only attack(s), it'll beat Tinkaton every time.



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