1990s was the golden age.PS2 era was the silver age.PS3 + PSP the bronze age.PS4-5 = fucking dead and DEI coded trash.
>>731221008Buy an ad
>>731221008Pretty good games, and 8 is there too.
>>731221008they're all great rpgs and should be played if you are a fan of the genre
goodok okgreatfantastic
>>731221008I didn't like 9.
>>731221008god tierclassic, mogs the remakes tenfoldwhatevernot as good as people think it isthe last great final fantasy game
>>7312210086 good but too easy7 good but too easy8 good but easy AND pointless systems bloat9 good but annoyingly slow and easy and a little unfinished10 good but too moviegame and too easy
>>731221008VI is excellent VII is a masterpieceVIII is a mix bag aligned more to train wreck, but the beginning and end are greatIX is very good. Excellent if you have a Fast Forward X is a mixed bag skewed more towards good, the combat is great but the cinematic style (world is literally a line) brings it down. V is the actual best FF game. You didn't mention it but I thought I should point it out.
>>731221132these games are like 30 years old or something....
>>7312210088 is a piece of garbage with the worst systems ever introduced into an rpg. The rest are good.
>>73122111314,15 and 16 was the platinum era
unrelated but I think FF12 is worse than 15 and 16. Its a terrible game. I hate the combat. Its like some mmo tier shit and mmo is the worst genre of game or total retards who enjoy tedium.
>>731222453>I think FF12 is worse than 15 and 16. Its a terrible game.might be one of the worst posts ive ever read on this board and ive been here for over 20 years
>>731221008A feast for the ears. Some of the greatest soundtracks in media history.
>>731221008We didn't know how good we had it compared to what came next.
>>731221008final fantasy was mid before FF7, and mid after FF7.
>>731221008IV and V should be included to close the 90s era but sure. Those 5 games were each, at the time of their release, what made it look like videogames would evolve forever.They're all flawed, sure, but they mostly offered drastically different gameplay that kept you guessing, These were all ambitious enough to not mind failing core aspects of what a JRPG was, and their flaws only frame their good aspects. Modern titles are meek and unassuming, trying to fit into expectations while afraid to make mistakes, and their sameness and lack of impact evidences that the lack of boldness is a biggest flaw than being janky here or there.
>>731222453ya 12 sucks
>>731221008Very good, very good, polarizing but if you like it then you probably REALLY like it, solid for like 75% of the game, very good.
>game called final fantasy>make a dozen sequelsdishonest marketing
>>731222453True, at least 15 and 16 were ambitious. 12 was just a glorified reskin of FF11.( i hate them all tho)
>>731222945They called it that because they were on the verge of collapse at the time of its release and they intended it to be their final game. This is like surface level gamer knowledge at this point.
>>7312210088 looks bad compared to the others but when compared to some other jrpgs of the time it makes out better. legend of dragoon and grandia 2 feel much more amateur in some aspects but their better gameplay make me feel they're about even with ff8
Every FF game that is a multiple of 4 is garbage.
>>731221008Peak of the series
Up to FF7 every game is an objective improvement on the last. FF6 is insanely ambitious, and both its best moments and its worst moments come from that ambition. When it's chugging along, it manages to construct a powerful story and the gaps are just left open for you to imagine something, but when it doesn't you're just thinking "this is fucking bullshit." Kefka is incredible in presentation but a walking plot device who just shows up to asspull victories he hasn't earned. It also loses steam around World of Ruin and doesn't ever quite recover.FF7 genuinely revolutionized everything about the genre and has the best core cast of all time, with the best protagonist too, though the other party members like Cid, Cait Sith and Vincent fluctuate between badly written and literally nothing. It also has a very well thought out battle system that is objectively superior in comparison every other one in the list, but shame the game is so piss easy you never actually need to use any of it.FF8 has the best first act out of all those producing incredible setpiece after incredible setpiece but it shits the bed immediately after by refusing to commit to anything that might truly upset the status quo. It also forgets 75% its cast existed or had character arcs and has a villain that literally has only the shadow of something going on. FF9 has the most consistently good story, the best villain with Kuja, and also has Vivi which is, like, a top 5 FF character of all time, but wastes 1/3rd of its cast and also has very bad moment-to-moment gameplay (while having pretty fun spreadsheet/build stuff, meaning its sadly just close to being the alltime best)10 is pretty good overall but I think it never really reached the iconic moments of the other games like the Dollet Raid, Bahamut's assault on Castle Alexandria or Aerith's death.
>>731222815you should include 3 also, 3 4 5 was a pretty clear iterative process
>>731224082I just don't like III, and I think IV started a new philosophy. I, II and III don't let your characters have much character. II may have actual named characters but they're barely characters, and II has always been beta SaGa more than an actual FF in my mind. The thing with I-III is that customizability took a lot from the overarching story. IV eschewed that customizability to give your characters more character, and make encounters more into puzzles than "number goes down". From IV on, characters are named and given distinct functions, even in V with all the class shenanigans, the game still expects each character to have a specific personality. I can see what you mean that V was III+IV in a lot of ways, but the limitations III had make it too distinct from IV-X for me, there were newer ways to customize your party, but not newer ways your characters were created as entities.>>731223728>Up to FF7 every game is an objective improvement on the last.I'd say VI, I don't think VII was a direct improvement as much as the psx was just newer than the SNES. The materia system was fun, but I think it didn't have the traditional qualities of VI's esper system (where characters were still themselves and competent fighters even if naked), while being less bold and thematically interesting than the GF system in VIII (as far as something outside of the characters being what made them competent). I also didn't like the overdone dirty urban parts in VII.Your frustrations with how easy it is and not deanding mastery are my exact frustrations with BoF IV.I do love 90s Square for experimenting that much.
>>731222702The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on but this dwindling group of autistic balding millenials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tldr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
>>731225567Nobody thinks this won't happen
>>731225287>The materia system was fun, but I think it didn't have the traditional qualities of VI's esper system (where characters were still themselves and competent fighters even if naked), while being less bold and thematically interesting than the GF system in VIII (as far as something outside of the characters being what made them competent). I also didn't like the overdone dirty urban parts in VII.The Esper system is very poorly thought out in my opinion. Just like the Materia system, it obliterates the mechanical uniqueness of the characters; combat just devolves into Ultima spamming because you can make everyone into an omnicompetent ultramage anyway. With FFVII, this is an intentional tradeoff that aims to achieve total flexibility, meaning *any given character* in your squad can have a spell, but they're never going ALL going to have that spell. I don't like it, I enjoy mechanical uniqueness in characters, which is why FFIX has the superior spreadsheet part for me, but I think that by it being an intentional choice they set out to achieve, it plays much better then VI.
>>731221008Each game basically being its own setting unconnected to the others (and the few with sequels mean you know which one is connected to which) is a good thing
>>731221008amazingone of the greatest games of all timetotal disasteramazinggreat
>>731221113All FFs on PS4/PS5 are better than FFXIII, cope, seethe and dilate.
idk, good, idk, idk, interesting
>>731221008GoodAmazingMix of Amazing and shit but I love itAmazingGood
>>731225567>The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally donenobody talks about FF6 or FF9 either, don't kid yourself kid. In fact, the only time we talk about those mediocre games is in these ranking discussions.
>>7312210087-10 was the peak Final Fantasy era
>>731228143Those games are pretty old, that's why.Can't say the same for remake project which was basically designed to stroke SE employees ego and not to make a good game
>>731223728>and also has Vivi which is, like, a top 5 FF character of all timeAs far as I am concerned that little guy is the whole reason to play 9. He's worth it.
>>731221008SSBAB
>>731221008All garbage
>>731221008Masterpiece. Volatile. Paradoxically complete experience.Masterpiece. Punkish.An anti-game.Most baffling entry, where each aspect besides combat is simultaneously awful and amazing.Murdered Final Fantasy. For swaying grass on the sides of the path and the cinematic experience.
>>7312210086 and 7 are widely regarded, even on 4chan, as the best in the series. And they are.They were also directed by Yoshinori Kitase, who for some reason everyone around here hates and calls a "hack" etc.Try making sense of that....No FF game after 7 is worth playing. X doesn't even resemble the series in any way, shape or form. It's not even remotely a final fantasy game.
>>731230935Hiroyuki Ito had equal say on them, that's why they worked instead of choking on Kitase's bad tendencies.
>>731221008From left to rightHipster overhypedBest game in series but fans are wrong about what makes it goodTrashBoring but the 'safe' option Boring
>6KamigeHaven't played the others
>>731231297>Best game in series but fans are wrong about what makes it goodFans in general think the characters, their designs, FMVs, the love triangle, Midgar/every place but Midgar, Materia and the marketing make it good. What are the real reasons it's the best then?
>>731221008>6I don't think it's the best game in the series, but it's my personal favorite. Its flaws don't bother me much, while I really appreciate its strengths. I think it has the most impressive soundtrack in the series if you account for the hardware, and it adds a lot to the experience.>7It's a solid entry, but for some reason I've never found it particularly compelling.>8It has a strong beginning, then falls off really hard. I like the setting, and the presentation/spectacle is incredible at points, but it's just not enough to carry it.>9I only ever tried it briefly, and I lost interest almost immediately.>10I think 10 is the overall best game in the series. It has a really strong cast and plotline, good combat mechanics, and an interesting setting that's developed reasonably well. The only area in which it's arguably a bit weak is exploration, but only a handful of games in the series put any real focus on that.
