Every fucking time.
>>731383163>guy who stole a bunch of shit for his games is now hiring people to jew people who do it to himI cant stand how Jewish toby is...
>>731383163>I'm only make half as much money now off uploading your work as my own!These people serious?
>>731383163goodget fucked troons lmao
>>731383163>2026What? Didn't this already happen like two years ago or something? Are we doing the time warp again?
>>731383315he's chosenyou're notget used to it goy
Meme games for toddlers. The Fortnite of RPGs
Someone should let Alex Yard know about this
>>731383163Didn't ZUN do this last year as well?
>>731383163Why does this kike think he's entitled to money for remixing a song somebody else made? What ever happened to fans just putting things out for the love of it?
>>731383163WTF toby has a wrangler? I thought he did everything on his own.
>((()))Atleast he is aware
>>731383163>guy named Fox>has an enemy named Wolffshit is so so fucking retarded
>>731383456Sebastian Wolf has always and will always be a faggot, despite Toby telling him to cut that shit out multiple times.
>>731383634>Why does this kike think he's entitled to money for remixing a song somebody else made?Are you talking about toby or the twitter guy?
>>731383315Toby actually hates this shit, but he's stuck with Wolf till the end of time because of contractual obligations.
>>731383634Money from Undertale and Deltarune remixes was promised to him 3000 years ago
>>731383163If Mozart can't copyright claim people covering his songs, then some nobody shouldn't be able to claim covers of his beep boop music. On the other hand, fuck remixes because they usually suck or fail to even sound good at all.
>>731383163>jews jewing jews get jewedMake your own music and you won't have that problem
>>731383646not a wrangler, he's just the jew Toby sold the music publishing rights to, and now everyone, Toby included, regrets it to this very day.
>>731383163Toby will fix it. He values the fan community.
>>731383634Mainly because Toby told fans they were free to use and remix his music however they see fit without having to worry about paying. Its this Wolf asshole who's causing problems.
>>731383163too much time around jewpaneses will do it to a dev
>>731383819The Jew is copyright claiming original music too
>>731383817Its not even Toby doing it, its the record company doing it despite him telling them multiple times not to.
Why did toby give someone else publishing rights?
Half of the replies in this thread feel fucking fake, what the hell is going on today?
>>731383634Why is he not?
>>731384042Money.
>>731384097First time realizing the internet is dead? Whether it's bots or brown people the result is the same. Its the same shit smelling grey blur.
>>731384042He was an ignorant indie dev in 2013 who didn't know how popular his game would get, nor how evil music publishers are.
>>731384097prove they're fake
>>731384097Can you point out the fake replies, Patrick because everything seems fine.
>>731383665It's a third party extension for spazzes that'll never remove their training wheels.
>>731384042who knows, goy? it just isn't his fault. *hides money in nose*
>>731383685
>>731384097which ones?
>>731384097it feels that way because the tobycord hasn't been alerted yet to spam the thread with support.
>gods chosen people>the most annoying fucking cunts on planet earthwhy the fuck anybody is religious is crazy to me
>Toby>Toby>Tobygame developers are not your friends.
>>731383858>sold the music publishing rights toWhy in God's name would Toby do such a thing? Certainly it can't be money, Toby has more than enough of that as is. Did Chara do this?
>>731383784>No publisher listed on Steam for Deltarune or Undertale>His hands are tied, the goyim must be deshekeled, cannot be helped
>>731384309Theyre not, judaism ended with the destruction of the second temple and christianity established the church as the new israel, but false jews of today (think rev 3:9 because they also happened all the way back then) gaslit protestants to disregard that using lots of money and freemasonry being basically a cult.
>>731384097Not really. Most of /v/ is against Toby Fag. You're just a retard.
>>731384223i kneel to jimbo supremacytruly la creatividad
Now let’s see jew boy get sued by Nintendo for ripping off Earthbound
>>731384318no, but they are still people who are identified by names. You don't have to be friends with someone to know who they are and what they have or haven't done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyNVRrHkwe0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saoSEaSDsrYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyItvNH1OTEare still up, thank GOD
>>731383163Can't he just sever the contract?Yeah, it'll cost money, but he's rich, so who gives a shit?
>>731384042>why would a Zionist Jew do something like this?
>>731384390As far as I know, he did this before Undertale became a multi million dollar property. I think now Materia (the company) are just holding on to their golden goose for dear life, and making it everyone else's problem.
>>731383163People keep saying Toby isn't happy with what Sebastian's doing, but he literally talked fondly of him in the Undertale anniversary stream. The way I see it, Toby is happy with what Sebastian does.
>>731383163lol didn't touhou go through the same shit? Hiring lawyers is one thing, but why do these retards keep hiring AUTISTIC lawyers with a social media presence? There's only so many levels of subhumanity one person can be on before they need to be sectioned or culled.
>>731384550>break the contract>go to jail>Temmie sets up a GoFundMe for Toby's bail>back to business as usual in 3 days, max
>>731384309The goblin people aren’t the real Israelites anon. Ioykhbtra.
>>731383630>>731384735QRD on the touhou situation
>>731384403Oh no, he could definitely do something about this, and he probably will. Its just annoying having to get together the silver trumpet, golden fleece, sword in the stone needed to get that hermit out of his Japanese goon cave long enough to tell Sebastian to fuck off again. Personally, if I were him I'd use my status as a filthy rich indie dev, to either buy back the rights to the soundtrack, or buy enough Materia stock to pack the board of directors and force them to fire Sebastian.
>>731384824Why would he do that? He agrees with what Sebastian is doing.
>>731384745Don't even do that. Just get the contract annulled, pay the fee, run a gofundme where the emphasis on ties being severed with the copyright striker is first and foremost and his army of fans will pay him for putting them and their right to remix his shit above his own finances.That way he can rake in a fortune and have full financial control over his music.
>>731384550That's assuming Materia is willing to let go. It might be like Viacom is with their two or three profitable properties, where they would die before they gave up publishing rights, because they have literally nothing else as valuable as that.Its not music publishing, but I remember Valve nearly went bankrupt while developing HL2 when they tried to get their publishing rights back from Vivendi (formerly Sierra) and that was a company with a bunch of lawyers on payroll. Toby is just some autist.
>>731384892Question is, why?All it does is create bad press for himself.Gonna be real funny if he's cancelled by his own fanbase because he didn't pass the purity check.
>>731384735Wolff is the CEO of Materia Music, not a lawyer. He has no formal legal background at all, he just talks out his ass and then DMCA strikes people.
>>731385031>cancelled by his own fanbaseLmaoToby could behead a child on livestream and his retarded troon fanbase would still suck him off.
>>731384097We've been under siege by turdworlders and bots for awhile. Jannies don't do shit.
>>731384717Can you post a source?
>>731384805It's CRAZY
>>731385095Fax
>>731383163Good
>>731383426Covers and remixes are covered under fair use if I recall.
>>731385095Anon shut up, look at the footage again.See the way that blood splatters? Nice and cleanly around that one spot? That's vaguely in the shape of that one guy...MY THEORY IS SO BACK BROS
You lost
>>731384805Zun hires some faggot named RUW to do legal shit. He proceeds to DMCA every single thing he can get his grubby little hands on while acting like an austistic faggot on twitter. He even tries to defend Zun's AI use by projecting that people who have an issue with it are pirates, while inadvertently pointing out his own hypocrisy by bringing up there's copyright infringement concerns with AI while he's going around being a flaggot. Had the guy just quietly DMCA'd shit a lot less people would have cared, but he acts like a total faggot on twitter constantly so people were seething.>>731385150Crazy ww? I really don't miss that faggot
>>731384892Toby lives solely off of goodwill from his fans. Unlike companies that sell physical goods which people need or massive AAA devs whose market are indifferent normies who don't care about the dev being an asshole, Toby's fanbase (the people who buy his merch) are the ones making and listening to remixes. If he alienates them, he loses his cash cow. He has to appease them to keep the cash flow going.Pissing off his fans would be like a pop idol revealing she has a boyfriend, instant career suicide. That's why, again and again, he has to rein Wolff in to keep him from killing the golden goose.
>>731384309https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm
>>731384042He was young and needed the money.
>>731385340Nah. Those retards would talk a big game but as soon as le newest chapters drop they would forget all grievances and come running back to him.
I have no idea how music works, so somebody explain things to me like I'm retarded. What exactly does a record company DO? It sounds like these people somehow own the rights to Toby Fox's music and can issue copyright claims on them. How did that end up being possible in the first place? Why did Toby sign over his rights to them?
DMCA'ing fancontent on this scale is just dumb.It's not taking revenue away from you. If anything, it's pumping more stuff out there, to expose your brand more.Save the copyright for when some schmuck in Hollywood or the mainstream music industry thinks it's safe to do so. That's when you can claim it off royalties.
>>731385531You only buy Deltarune once. His money comes from merchandising. People won't buy merchandise if they hate the brand, and the entire appeal of the brand is the wealth of fan content.
>>731385636In the music industry, you generally have to sign over the rights to your music to some massive company so it can be published. The internet has made self publishing easier, but its still really hard to do at scale, and now those record companies with maliciously make false dmca claims against you if you don't have a massive record label legal team to defend you. So its a protection racket combined with IP rent seeking.
>>7313844251 Thessalonians 2:15 makes everything clear but nobody past the 19th century seems to pay attention
>>731385636It's like patent trolling, but with music.But imagine if you made a song that never really made it big. Maybe it was niche enough? Then The Judas Brothers (sponsored by Dismey and Werhner Bros) did a cover of it? Sold a hit single. Let the current flavor of the month rap group sample it for their album.And they did it all without consulting you. No contract, no negotiating.That's where your lawyers would come in. Because you have a case where they did all this, without having the rights to your song.Record company contracts and producers tend to make sure they have ownership to use (and profit off) the music, over the artist.But the stuff here on video game remakes/remixes isn't as analogous. A lot of it is self-produced these days. You're typically not going up against a multimillion dollar industry, so much as trolling somebody's patreon.Annd the owner may still be in the right to file a DMCA, over another internet person making money off their song.But in this case, it'd be Toby's multi-million dollar company technically swatting down the little fishes, by going after their subscriber money.Which ethically goes against Toby's entire schtick, and how Undertale/Deltarune was made.
>>731383163>jeopardizes his relationship with his largest asset>his largest asset privately tells him to stop, publicly sticks his neck out for a public apology>some time passes>jeopardizes his relationship with his largest asset againI know they're too big to fail but it's baffling how retarded CEOs can be
>>731386548>Which ethically goes against Toby's entire schtick, and how Undertale/Deltarune was made.I think this is all a case of "rules for thee not for me", yeah sure Toby preaches about remixing stuff and all that, but only when it doesn't concern his own stuff, when it's his stuff that's being remixed, then I think he's fully behind whatever Sebastian is doing.
>>731384717>>731384892>>731387137Fuck off, retard
he doesn't give a FUCK about you, he got his
>>731387305Why can't you accept that Toby is just another greedy kike? Yeah, I like his games, doesn't stop me from recognizing this fact. Someone can be a piece of shit and still make something good, it's not mutually exclusive.
I always had the impression that Toby is fine with Wolff’s work like 99% of the time, and then he just overreaches for no real reason randomly.
>>731384528Discuss games not their creators. You only talk about creators without ever mentioning games. You're addicted to internet men you fucking homo. Kill yourself.
>>731385659>to expose your brand more.Everyone already knows what Undertale is. Brand exposure is not needed anymore for profits. Now begins the extraction process.
>I DONT UNDERSTAND TOBY IS MY PERSONAL FRIEND HE MADE DELTARUNE AND THOSE CHARACTERS SAID THEY WERE ALL MY FRIENDS TOO WHAT IS HAPPENING HE WAS MY FRIEND!!! THIS ISNT VERY UNDERTALE OF HIM!!!!
>>731385263TOBY FOX IS TODD HOWARD'S INDIE PSEUDONYM CONFIRMED
>>731383163The funniest thing is his usage of ((())), he really is trying his hardest to portray the most stereotypical greedy jew copyright lawyer
In theory it's shitty but the vast majority of remixes are garbage so who cares
>>731387792It really should've been more obvious when the tagline for all his games is "See that goat? You can fuck it"
>>731387574lol
>>731384892This; Sebastian is the fall guy who does this so that Toby doesn’t have to. I kind of remember Toby mentioning that copyright protections were necessary because of AI-fueled attempts to steal music rights these days.
>>731383163Lmao what a subhuman
>>731384097The microsoft jeet army is deployed, and being as stupid as they are, they're making their presence clear to the entire board instead of focusing on the xbox slop.
Does anybody know if this song has a longer version anywhere for download?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN4ZcGJoZac
>>731383630No fucking way HAHAHA
>>731387574This is a joke post but some people genuinely feel this way. I hope this makes them realize that the actions of people don't necessarily reflect what they say.
>>731387410Because it doesn't match his behavior. This is just your doomfag bias on display. Everything is comically evil and terrible because you're smart little atheist who knows nobody has standards or material reasons to hold to them.
This has happened multiple times with a Toby "response" and you guys really think he is against it? How gullible can you be
>>731388387Actions are the purest form of behavior. You have to be a total retard to listen to words and ignore actions.
>>731387425What did the game Undertale do here? All of this was the actions of men around the game.
>>731385301This had to have happened recently because we used to have a touhoufag on our board who always bragged about the state of their fan music
>>731387574Baki really is a soijak anime, isn't it. Every character in it looks like the most hideous jak with added color and shading.
>>731388387Pretty much what >>731388435 said, if Toby REALLY was against this, he would have taken more radical action, and would have certainly been more vocal about opposing it. If we go by what Toby actually does, the most sympathetic interpretation of his actions is that he doesn't like it, but he sees it as a necessary evil, and that's the best case scenario.
Haha, good! Hopefully an accident claims Fox's life next or there is an outbreak of a terrible disease at some sort of fan convention.
>>731388264Yeah, it was in the post chapter 3 and 4 newsletter.
>>731383163CoolSo when is Toby Fox getting sued for half his games being stolen music and audio?
>>731383163You know, I regret buying Deltarune, but I don't think Steam's gonna give me a refund after almost 40 hours of playtime.
>>731383163>((()))
Songs that sample old music should not be allowed to make profit or win awards.There is not a single song that is better than the song it samples.
>>731388305Nobody on /v/ honestly feels this way about devs. Some act like they do, either to troll, or because they're paid posters who are shit at their jobs. Some people feel that way about politics though.
>>731383163Isn't it crazy how leftists almost always become stereotypical capitalist pigs once they actually manage to accumulate a modicum amount of wealth?
>>731383634Well it’s better the person remixing a song gets money than the person stealing it*cough* *cough*
>>731388797/v/ acts this way towards the following devs:>Gaben>Todd Howard>Swen Vincke>Miyazaki>Kojima>Kamiya>YoshiP (formerly)
>>731388184Lol the new technology is scary so we must destroy civilization
>>731388843Fuera de aquí, negro de mierda.
>>731388435>>731388604His actions are personally going out of his way to make Wolff stop every time he's made aware of this shit. He even wasted 10k on it last time just because Wolff made a bet and then refused to pay. His actions are those of the incompetent, not the malcontent. This lines up with what else we see of him. He's a talented artist, but absolutely terrible at managing things. Which is why he yields to other people on things so much. His game was in dev hell for years until he finally hired some big wig producer just to be in charge instead of him and make things actually run on time. Wolff is that, but for music, and Toby is likely too ignorant to know he should be doing something, or too scared that he'll make it worse, so he sticks with the devil he knows.
>>731383858>everyone, Toby included, regrets it to this very dayThe version of Toby the fandom has created in their minds regrets it, sure. But the uncomfortable truth is that the real Toby is fine with it. He's not in some Faustian bargain that requires him to work with Materia. If he wanted to stop Sebastian, he would. This has happened so many times that, if he were truly against it, he would have every reason to. But he doesn't. He's been working with Materia for over 10 years now. Because he's fine with it. Sebastian is being the "bad cop" and taking the hate for what are ostensibly Toby's wishes. Toby's music is one of his most valuable assets, and he understandably wants to make money. The only time Toby has had a problem with it was when Sebastian got into a spat with the Undertale Yellow devs, and even then, his response to the community was more of a measured, "he went a little too far there, sorry guys, let me make it up to you" than a, "i hate Materia and Sebastian Wolff is a greedy meanie"
>>731388981They don't honestly believe it. They're doing it to engagement bait. You're a sucker if you believe otherwise.
>>731389015When you're in a dick sucking competition and your opponent is a Toby Fox fanboy.
>>731389090yes, /v/ is merely pretending to slurp gaben's knob 24/7merelypretending
>>731389049Have you considered just taking your meds?
>>731385301I vaguely remember ZUN being the chill guy who did nothing but drink beer and make games with his... "unique" artstyle. The fuck happened to him?
>>731389168Started a family.
>>731388667>chapter 3 and 4 newsletterYou're going to have to spoonfeed me because I can't find what you're talking about.https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/release-day/https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/album/deltarune-chapters-3-4-ost
>>731389015Ok, so your interpretation is that Toby is a retarded pussy, is what I'm getting. Because of you ask me, if Toby wanted, he could explicitly say out loud that he is absolutely against what Sebastian and Materia are doing, even if he doesn't have any way of actually stopping it, be that because of contractual reasons or something else. He could cause a massive PR issue for Materia that might get them to reconsider their actions. I do not see any of this. So, the only options I have left is to think that Toby is either too retarde and/or cowardly to take real action against this, or he is fine with it for whatever reason.
>>731384097https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285460985/#285461039The new captchas filter out bots LESS than the old ones, somehow
>>731389110>...but you're a GabeN dickrider.
>>731389049Fair enough, he probably doesn't hate it as much as is annoyed by it. But I still think this good cop bad cop theory is really far fetched. Never attribute to malice what can just as easily be attributed to incompetence. More likely he just doesn't care enough to pay attention to shit like this. After all, he's got the game to worry about and all these childhood heroes to meet and collaborate with. All the boring legal and managerial stuff is low on his priority list. He does seem to stand by his word when the issue is shoved in front of him like with the UTY incident. The rest of this stuff he likely never even hears about and doesn't care enough to check for, nor does he want the hassle of changing producers when the next guy could be just as bad or worse.
>>731389152Have you considered that Toby Fox isn't a perfect person? Have you considered why he never makes a statement when Materia/Sebastian drama happens? Have you considered why he continues working with Materia despite the drama?
>>731389425Gabe is a retard who only allowed refunds after being forced to.
>>731384097Undertale and Deltatroon threads have been astroturfed for a long time now. I don't know exactly what Discord it is but it's very clear that these are not regular anons organically joining this thread.
>>731389145yes, retards doing obnoxious things then "merely pretending" is exhaustingly common in this shithole.
>>731389409Grim
>>731387574Real LMFAOOOOToby ain't anyone's friend, nigga is a snake
>>731389110>"He's an evil dark lord of the jews who's scheming to create a conflict and play both sides so he can come off as a hero when he intervenes">"I think its more likely he's just a well intentioned idiot">"Get off his dick bro!"
>>731388264A piano sketch of that song was posted for the 6th anniversary stream, but I don't think the full version ever got posted anywhere.https://deltarune.wiki/w/Unused_Music_Tracks#Game_Main_Theme_(Piano_Sketch)I also just realized that stream and Chapter 2 will be half a decade old this year.
>>731389049Toby is one if the few artists who I absolutely despise, while still enjoying their output. It is quite a nasty situation to be in, part of me actually wants future Deltarune chapters to be shit so I have an excuse to stop engaging with his works.
>>731383817Mozart is dead bro
>>731385258Not if you make money off itThe original songwriter can go after a cut then if you didn't get permission
>>731389485the simpler answer is that he's stupid and lazy. Why doesn't he comment? Its not on the front page of his twitter and he's too busy to actively check for it. Why does he continue to work with Materia despite them being obnoxious? He's really busy with work and switching record labels sounds like a real hassle.
>>731389389Yes, I do think Toby is retarded and a pussy. Just look at how he hides from the public eye and how poorly coded his game is. The man is a borderline savant with how high on the spectrum he is.
No "heteronormative" relationships in the court of Toby.It's essentially this. Noelle is the bubbly proper White girl and Toby wants to subvert and defile this image as a result. She will be a degenerate and unsalvageable.Susie will also be a victim of this dynamic to destroy and defile the tomboy image too. Like dangling a carrot on a stick while never giving it to the running horse named Kris.These 2 will be forced into an unrealistic and chemistry absent relationship that destroys each of their character traits and personalities to achieve a true ending.This is to finger wag at players and impressionable young minds.Mending Susie and Noelle's heccin quirk chungus wholesome FORCED lesbian relationship will mend the story and unlock the true end. It's essentially a demoralization story and a humiliation ritual in a sense. Kris will not have a happy end. They won't even be able to end the story on a note that has no hard confirmed relationship.Unfortunately for Toby, cynicism and nihilism like that loses in the end, and stories like this will be left behind while the truth lives on in stories that speak of true hope and optimism in the face of an uncaring universe.>>731389049>>731389712Tumblr and Reddit are retarded and think Toby is wholesome quirk chungus, but he's not. He hangs out in inherently evil circles with questionable people while jewmaxxing his subversive media.
>>731389824I'm glad you came to the conclusion that Toby is just a dumb cunt.
>>731389338Sorry, it was in the Undertale Anniversary stream. Its called the Game Main Theme Piano Sketch and it can be found here https://deltarune.fandom.com/wiki/Unused_Music_Tracks
>>731384892Yeah, if Toby was so against what Sebastian does he would've gone somewhere else. That's what Wolff's job is, take the blame for inpopular shit.
>>731389707Thank you so much. I was losing my mind not being able to find it. I couldn't believe that this song wouldn't be published and the community wouldn't know where it was. I think it's the best piece of music in the whole game and I'm disappointed but glad to know it actually doesn't exist.
>>731389881I find it interesting how you criticize Toby's queer sensibilities while also accepting them by calling Kris a "they." Usually people who reject faggotry refuse to use queer pronouns.
>>731383426This
>>731383163So he’s down to $5 a month?
>>731383163So the guy has been making money by stealing Deltarune/Undertale music and adding an electronic filter?
This guy works for Toby and his handling toby's work right? If Toby didn't want this to happen couldn't he shoot the guy an email and/or axe him for continually doing this shit? Anything else is silent compliance
>>731383943toby sounds like a retard who yields his right of way to someone else "to be polite" and causes a traffic accident.his works are copyrighted, part of a game, his publisher is in the right here. toby has no right to tell people they can use his stuff for free.
>You're allowed to keep any remix up as long as revenue sharing is enabled>revenue SHARING>you don't even have to give up all the money you're getting (money you didn't earn, btw) you just need to give some of it away>this is unacceptable for some reasonWhy are artists like this?
>>731390130Taking the blame is part of his job and reading this thread proves he is doing a good job at it.
>>731390130Toby said you can remix and make fanart or whatever you want with Undertale/Deltarune stuff. He never said you were allowed to make money from it.
>>731389712I think he's a bit of a faggot and I really don't like how he keeps making all the waifus gay, but I don't think those are reasons to despise him. He goes out of his way to not be an obnoxious faggot, despite having a platform to do it on, a fanbase that would eat it up, and plenty of political incentive to do so.If nothing else, I respect his ability to know when to shut up.
>>731390020Kris is the player's gender.
>>731383943>Don't have to worry about payingNobody is paying anything. They're just not getting some of the revenue. Not getting money isn't the same as having to pay money.
>>731389886Dumb yes, cunt no. Being a cunt requires bad intentions. He's just a retard. I've never thought otherwise about him.
Materia Music is located on the traditional homelands of the Duwamish Tribe (Dkhw Duw'Absh). We acknowledge and pay our respects to the Duwamish people who have lived on and stewarded these lands since the beginning of time, and continue to do so today.
>>731390258>Not getting money isn't the same as having to pay money.it actually is
>>731383784>>731384824>>731385031 You're getting good cop bad copped retards
>>731390258In this particular case it kind of is.
>>731383163Total "content creator" death
>>731384097Ice cream? I love ice cream!
>>731385258If you're making money you have to pay royalties. Same as any musician that samples another song has to pay royalties to the original. Run Tricky by DMC pretty much set the precedent for this.
>>731390351>>731390395Shut up bitch, you should be getting zero dollars. You're lucky you're even getting something.
>>731383163>Deltarune and Undertale covers and remixes
>>731390157That does sound like something he'd do. Just look at the train wreck chapter 3's development was.>toby has no right to tell people they can use his stuff for free.That probably depends on the specifics of the contract he has with Materia.
I don't think what Sebastian and Materia are doing is cool or anything, but I will say that at least half of the issue here are fans not understanding copyright or believing they understand copyright better than the guy who has a career in music rights management. I saw some responses to the post that kicked this whole debacle off on Twitter that suggest what Materia is doing is illegal or that Sebastian is personally siphoning the funds into his own pocket. You can hate with the copyright system but please, I beg of you, understand the thing you're hating first
>>731383163>steal music and add notes>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU OWN THE SONG??????covers will never match the original
>>731390453why?
>>731390258That's like saying you don't pay taxes because they're deducted out of your paycheck before you receive it.
>>731389168he sold out a while ago
>>731390317>Beethoven's agent
>>731387574Troonies really see him as their cult leader daddy and it's like he doesn't even know it.
>>731390434Its funny how the law has a provision for fair use, but judges seem to have decided nothing at all falls under it.
>>731387574kek
>>731390353That sounds a lot more far fetched than Toby being busy and incompetent.
>>731388387>Because it doesn't match his behavior.The guy has tried to mimic the Kojima art of talking like a spaced-out retard in order to pass himself off as some quirky visionary of game design ever since he moved to Japan. How the fuck do you confidently claim that Toby’s not acting in a way that “matches his behavior” when literally his whole persona and public presence is a fabrication?
>>731388387Parasocial mongoloid.
>Toby actually advertised the game before release but removed it when the controversy started >so the lesson here is that when shit goes down Toby's not gonna have your back"
>>731390469>that Sebastian is personally siphoning the funds into his own pocket.You could make the argument that he is, indirectly at least. He is CEO of Materia, and gets paid by the company to do that. So the money that Materia makes is indirectly going to his pocket, in part. And if he makes a lot of money for the company, that may even warrant a pay rise for him. Also, as his conduct during the UTY incident has shown that he is also an idiot and likely doesn't know the law either. And people on twitter are almost always idiots.
>>731390717Do you think the kind of guy who larps as Kojima despite being a known brown person from the US is capable of coming up with and pulling off a routine like that? How likely do you think that is? The guy is like if one of those fedora tipping neckbeards suddenly got enough money to actually move to Japan and live the larp, he's a dumbass.
>>731389707When you are in a stable life and you can't really define your life with significant years long chunks like school or service, 5 years doesn't really feel that long. It starts for some people at 18 after leaving high school or people at 23 after college, but time doesn't feel all that significant because there are no longer significant definable chunks in a person's life. One of the benefits of having children is that you have this 18 year chunk of time to define a lot of meaning and nurturing something that matters in life, much like how a person can reflect on school or service as a significant chunk of their life.I really can't imagine video games occupying that same kind of time benchmark meaning in someone's life. It's a thing you do for 40-100 hours, and really that's it. Even a whole console generation shouldn't matter unless you spent a lot of time with friends over a game or something. I mean yeah, I wish something like Deltarune or reading a book had the same time-defining significance as a relationship or something but it doesn't. That being said, I can seriously imagine people on /vg/ sincerely saying that 10-years of posting in Deltarune General was the best time of their lives.
>>731390469He does it for free thohttps://x.com/SebastianWolff/status/2014507000068293077
>>731390861YIIK will come back stronger than Toby can imagine
>>731383685>*dun duduuuuuuuun*>"Can't let you do that, Toby Fox!"
>>731390784Conspiracy schizo
>>731391240$0 in salary just means he gets a cut of the royalty earnings. Which means he has a vested interest in raising revenues, ergo copyright strikes.
>>731390469Copyright is unlawful and is a crime against humanity. Ideas are not property.
>>731391240Obviously he's making money from this somehow. He's clearly not doing this as an act of goodwill.
>>731391370Unlike you know him in the flesh and have been a friend of his for years, you can't tell what matches or doesn't match his behaviour.
It's HIS intellectual property that he MADE from SCRATCH. From NOTHING. It belongs to HIM and not PARASITES like YOU.
Today I will remind themhttps://streamvi.com/watch/1800055523878752
>>731391463Occam's razor says that all conspiracies are likely wrong unless you have solid evidence. Its simpler to take him at his word than it is to believe this complex story that you've constructed.
>>731391505catbox it, I'm not clicking that shit
>>731391227Well put
>>7313915731. Inaction speaks louder than words.2. POSIWID.
Toby Fox is my best friend and everyone saying otherwise is just jealous of our close relationship.
>>731383315
If you don't believe my edgelord conspiracies then you're a man child who views Toby Fox as your personal friend.
The wolf guy literally has AIDS
>>731391702Why do schizos pull out the obscure acronyms and expect other people to know what they mean?
>>731385095Its depressing because your right.
uh oh melty
>>731391616https://litter.catbox.moe/c10svm.mp4
>>731391901Please give me a source, I need this to be true
>>731389168ZUN has been a scummy bastard since forever, it's just people don't bother learning about his beginnings, nor care about anything he says on social media beyond thread bait shitty vidya takes.
I can tell what (doesn't) match about Toby Fox's behaviour even though I've never seen him in real life, let alone have an intimate relationship with him.
>>731383315A real shabbos goy maneuver
>>731390434Not quite. You have to buy a license. The terms, whether or not it includes royalties are negotiated then & there.
>>731391942>The purpose of a system is what it does (POSIWID) is a heuristic in systems thinking coined by the British management consultant Stafford Beer, who stated that there is "no point in claiming that the purpose of a system is to do what it constantly fails to do".Wolff has been doing this for years, and Fox hasn't stopped him even though he's the copyright holder and could've gone with someone else, or at least tell him to stop. Yet, he has done either. Really makes you think...
>>731391951Eh, I don't buy it.
>>731391951>>731391505sound literally nothing alike other than being metal songs
>>731389760Edgar Rice Burroughs' grandkids aren't even alive anymore but his works are still under copyright.
>>731391995ZUN is the most copyright permissive game dev to ever live.
>>731392296Not true in the civilised world, and not even true in Mexico, where his public domain status got grandfathered in (died before 1952.)>>731392343No, that's Jason Rohrer, and basically every libre game dev.
https://www.youtube.com/@SebastianWolff/videosWhy did he give up
>>731383784Come on, bro
>>731385301So, no more Touhou doujins? But I need more Reimu mating press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN82zjPYHMUWhy didn't he license the owner of the chord progression and instrumentation and the owner of the vibe for this song?Also is that what his waifu looks like
>>731392669Oh and licensing the mixing approach
>>731383784there's a price to pay for itthis is more or less like zun declaring war on fanworks. it will not go over well
>>731392669>2 minutes long>repetitive, derivative>shitty fadeout endingYea, this guy ain't making a living unless he has the copyright lawyers and legal royalties rolling in.
>>731391951>>731391505jesus this is incomplete and boresomehave this to be more believablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfaPEe_svA
>>731391951>MegalovaniaThat's a reach. Its a rock song where the notes are descending, they all do that.>Hopes and DreamsAgain, pretty generic elements to be calling stolen. Its normal upbeat rock with an added orchestral element.>Spear of JusticeFinally a proper similarity, but its likely because both are taking influence from Gaelic music.>Coregrasping at straws. The "influence" is a generic 80s electronic track, and Core sounds more similar to a 90s rave piano track>Death By GlamourIts 4 notes, and is a really common musical device>Dating Startthat one is intentional>Power of NEOgeneric rave music vs electronic rock that sounds nothing like it>Battle Against A Trueseems more coincidental than anything>SpooktuneI could see it>One True Lovethat one is a direct parody of that scene in Final Fantasy>Oh dungeonintentional parody again>Snowdin Towngrasping at straws here. Similar in style maybe, but Zelda hardly invented that style. >Gaster's themeFirst intentional copy to not be a direct reference you've actually listed>Once Upon A TimeIntentionally done in the same style in the hopes that the player will catch the reference>Thundersnailbassline could be lifted, or it could be coincidence, that's a pretty generic sounding bassline in the original>Your Best FriendPossible, could just be a similar saccharine style though.>Bonetrouslethat's just polka, that game doesn't own the concept of polka>Second BonetrousleNot similar at all>Your best NightmareCould be, but its only three notes, and Your Best Nightmare is a drum and bass track, the standard of genre is repeating notes like that.>your best nightmare 2The Bad Apple reference is intentional>Ruinsgrasping at straws here>Big Shotthat's just a classic blues/jazz progression>Cyber's WorldIts a similar instrument, but probably just coincidence. It should have been a reference though, it would have fit.>Field of Hopes and DreamsYou can't own the concept of an arpeggio
>>731385668Pretty sure Toby already has "fuck you" money.
>>731389002You sound like a shill.
>>731393156>>731391951>Powers combinedThat whole sequence is a power rangers reference, that's the joke.That's 9 out of 25, and most of those are intentional references rather than plagiarism.
...isn't undertale self-published? and therefore toby owns literally everything related to the game? i read through this entire thread and i still don't understand what influence this guy has over toby fox's work. why is he allowed to do any of this?in any case toby fox has started catering to all these autistic trannies with deltatroon now so i'm glad he's getting fucked anyway
>>731393286Oy vey
>>731393289Intentional references are plagiarism when you don't give materia music record company money at gunpoint
>>731389168Becoming Toby Fox's boyfriend turned him into scumThe West ruining the Japanese gaming industry as usual
>>731393293Toby Fox dindu nuffin okkkk??https://www.materiacollective.com/music/undertale-soundtrackIgnore the copyright notices.
>>73139251310/10 Toby-approved fall guy meme
>>731383784yeah ok
>>731392192Makes me think Toby is incompetent. More likely he dislikes this behavior (he's said as much and does take action against it when made aware) but doesn't care enough to go through the trouble it would take to stop it at the source or to actively police Wolff's behavior. At least not enough to do either while he's busy with the game.
>>731383163>Toby Fox's publisherWhy do these drooling retards keep ending up in permanent anal slavery for some giga kike publisher?>NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I NEED MY INDIE GAME THAT HAS NO BUDGET (UNDERTALE) OR HAS UNLIMITED PERSONAL FUNDS (DELTAROON) TO BE UPLOADED ON STEAM BY SOME 3RD PART>I NEED TO END UP IN SOME BULLSHIT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT DON'T BENEFIT ME WHATSOEVERAre they fucking stupid?
>>731393487I'm sure you're right as Fox's close friend who definitely knows what his actual behaviour is like.
>>731393426so toby is just being a giga tard and letting this guy do something illegal because he's too busy being a pedophile?
>>731393293He signed a music publishing deal with materia to get them to press CDs and put the soundtrack up on streaming services.
>>731383163>sorry, I can't make my music public domain because I only have a *few* million dollars. If I want to continue living my luxury life in Japan, I need that income.>also never pirate indie games, that's immoral
>>731393571He's the music publisher. The game is self published, Materia just manages releases of the soundtrack separate from the game.
>>731393293Record labels aren't just copyright shit they also handle making and distributing CDs and vinyls which Undertale has so whatever contract he signed probably gives them the rights to the music
>>731393582And I'm sure the mailman is plotting against you because your packages arrive damaged.
>>731393717It's totally normal to assume that you know the behaviour of a person you've never seen in your life, of course.
>>731391246toby shit his pants at YIIK because he realized that its ending was the same as deltarunes except done better than he ever could pull offthe game that was very similar to the one he had an idea of was YIIK, not omori
>>731390157Actually whoever owns the IP in fact does have that right if he so wishes.If Toby doesn't own his IP, then he's a retard.
>>731393678Then he is a tripple retard giga nigger, at least if it was a game publisher I could understand if he had some marketing done for him.
>>731390710The assumption of stupidity has basically paralyzed all attempts at identifying malice
>>731393885As far as I know, the main purpose of Materia is to press CDs of the Undertale soundtrack and manage the official Undertale soundtrack on Spotify, Youtube, and Itunes. Its retarded, but Toby is a known retard. He just happens to be a particularly successful one.
>>731383685>”Playtimes Over Toby Fox”
>>731393935Over application of malice has paralyzed the ability to identify and solve problems. Nobody wants to listen to the schizo who's description of every problem is "Jewish conspiracy" and whose only solution is "kill all jews", and nobody will listen to anyone else describing the problem, because the schizo has already poisoned the discussion. Sometimes things aren't conspiracies, and sometimes mundane things are responsible for problems, most times in fact.
>>731393935Toby Fox is a heckin' wholesome golden retriever. I KNOW what he's like because of his work. And I KNOW he would never ever ever never do anything wrong. He's just a victim, he dindu nuffin.
>More than two years have passed since the Undertale Yellow incident, are you going to tell Wolff to fuck off, Toby?>Two more weeks, chud...
>Copyright strikes?? You mean we can't hear the covers and remixes on youtube anymore??>No, you can still hear it, it's just that the people that made them have to share their youtube ad revenue with TobyThis is literally a non-issue. If you make a remix of any actual song you have to revenue share. Why is this being made out to be a big deal?
>wokefag is an assholecolor me surprised
>>731387574>>731389049This lmao.The UT/DR communities have absolutely toddler-ified Toby into being some pure innocent "uwu" baby who cannot do any wrong at all, and if he does then it's because he didn't know any better.They give the dude so many passes for shit that they have zero tolerance for when it comes to anyone else.>Taking down fanworks? That's just his publisher that Poor Toby was forced to work with!>Associates with a pedophile? Actually they're not a pedophile and Toby doesn't know and shouldn't cut them off because of that.>Was Hussie's yesman when he was doing worker abuse? Toby was a little naive baby and didn't know any better!Someone could find evidence that Toby donated half a million dollars to Trump 2024 and they'd make an excuse on how he only had good intentions, or if he got caught grooming a minor they'd say something like "well they should be HAPPY that Toby chose them!" and how it's okay cause Toby has a pure heart or something.
>>731385258Not really no. You can't even sample something, not even only a tiny bit, without clearance from the rights owner. It's why groups like The Avalanches don't do that anymore because they quite literally cannot do it anymore. To do it you needed a guy mercilessly tracking down and calling every single owner on all the tracks they sampled (thousands) non-stop every day to get clearance to use them, which was easy in the early 2000s for an Australian music group no one had heard of before, but now it's impossible for them.It's why Mashers are a dying art form.
>>731394480I suppose its really not. Its just that Sebastian Wolf is Martin Schkrelli tier in terms of how much he puts his foot in his mouth when talking about stuff like this, and he has a history of making completely unreasonable demands like claiming videos of gameplay which incidentally happen to contain Undertale music, a thing he's been doing lately. Basically the guy's a smug asshole, so everyone already hates him.
>>731390651fair use doesn't involve reuploading a ripped version of the song and pretending you made it. its not transformative enough either.
Internet isn't fun anymore, it's just business.
>>731394480toby music is basically glorified remixes already, but of course only HE is allowed to do that
>>731391460tell that to nintendo
>>731394643>It's why groups like The Avalanches don't do that anymore because they quite literally cannot do it anymore.Wildflower had some pretty neat samples, though. And it was their fame that got them the Beatles "sample" (McCartney needed to authorise it because he was still the composer of the cover version.)
>>731383426>make it a parody>it’s now fair use>don’t ask for permission to sample the song at all>now it’s called interpolation and is legal copyright is gay
the final boss of deltarune...WHITENESS!!!!
>>731394798You tellin' me Weird Al isn't paying Coolio ad money for Amish Paradise youtube revenue?
>>731394723i find it funny how toby openly admitted in the anniversary stream that bergentruckung is just him ripping off 'the fog' from persona 4 and nobody gave a shit
>>731394623>Associates with a pedophile? Actually they're not a pedophile and Toby doesn't know and shouldn't cut them off because of that.Do you mean Omocat? You're on the wrong site if you're gonna start whinging about shotacons.>Was Hussie's yesman when he was doing worker abuse? Toby was a little naive baby and didn't know any better!Worker abuse? Just don't work for Hussie. Toby was living rent free in his basement and liked his job, if he doesn't want to join some chicken shit artist's strike that's his business.
>>731394643You can sample, it just has to be from sample CDs or dedicated sample sets which are sold explicitly to be sampled. Its still bullshit though.
>>731394858The composers of the music Coolio sampled were credited as composers in the Weird Al song, so they definitely get royalties from the song.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_Paradise
>>731383163He should stop stealing Toby's work if he didn't want his money to be slurped up. Idiots are always surprised when the consequences for their actions come back to bite them.
>>731388581It's JoJo but without the svol.
>>731394696Anon, even using a second long sample to make a completely new song isn't fair use according to the courts.
>>731394864To be fair, in the position he's in, he probably can get express permission from the composer now.
>>731395039why is the music industry so gay and retarded
>>731395035It seems like an absurd shitpost anime to me. I guess you could call jojo that, but Baki seems way more shitposty, like the author was just taking the piss with every aspect of it.
>>731388581Don't ever compare Itagak'is masterful comprehension of anatomy to wojacks ever againor ill RAPE YOU>>731395035>Implying there not both filled to the brim with sovl
>>731395097Because they have money and lawyers.
Have you ever seen the composing credits of "The Sounds of Science" by Beastie Boys?This song is the last time a mainstream hip hop act sampled actual Beatles recordings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90N5XsasN0
>>731394858weird al credits people because he’s respectful and probably wouldn’t want to deal with the hassle anyway, but he isn’t legally obligated to however. some of them are so close to the original that it would probably be a headache to fight in court
does it get into weird territory when instead of making some original indie game you build years of work on top of undertale and copying tobys music
>>731395035>Its like jojo because it has big men fighting... and...Reddit comparison >>731395182Its not a shitpost its just the result of an autist having complete creative control
>>731383315I cannot stand how jewish he is, nor how jewish his fanbase is
>>731383163>Nonononono>You can't do this it is le copyright trolling >You don't understand I need money from use of your property >Aaaaa Karl Marx save me-ACK
>>731395097Remember, John Fogerty once got sued for sounding too similar to himself.Record industry suits are legitimately some of the worst in terms of litigiousness.
>>731395304Come on, anon. There's no way he wasn't with the level of insane shit I've seen from that manga.
>>731383163basedfuck people who leech off other's creations
>>731395391Itagaki believes 100% of everything he has put to paper
>>731387574It's funny because there are "people" on /v/ that GENUINLY think like this.
>>731383163100% of this fag's music is plagiarized. How fucking ironic.
>>731389760Tom Clancy is dead and yet here we are
>>731395097Jews.
>>731383163>making money off ityea get fucked.
>>731396514>only *i* should be allowed to steal and make money *snarls*
>>731389238I was going to say this as a joke, is it really a woman behind this?
>>731396913Did 2hu really get Yoko Ono'd?
>>731383163Lol just write your own musicThese hacks deserve nothing. They should be grateful they get anything mooching off another’s work
>>731383163Yeah idgi you're not entitled to all the money you make off of someone else's music. I don't imagine anyone with reasoning skills sees the problem with this.
>>731387574>TOBY BETRAYED US!!
>>731383163>muh monthly earnings grifting on someone else's IPgo make your own songs and upload those
>>731397230But enough about Toby Fox.
>>731390062Yes. People do that or create medleys or loop a song for 2 hours and then bitch when they can't get their $200 ad revenue a month for perpetuity
>>731397213where did you get this video of me during the anniversary stream?
>>731389168got a taste of that gacha money
>>731397323nothing is stopping people from DMCAing his games
>>731397419This. I don't know why people are surprised anymore that rich people do rich people things such as be greedy. Who the fuck would want to go back to ordering from McDonald's after you can afford a 60 dollar leg of a lamb in a high rise restaurant while someone twirls fire on the balcony stage and some chick tongues your balls under the table? They want to ensure their lifestyle can continue, so they keep the money flowing. Simple as.
>>731383315Just chill out on your goynip.
>>731393571The music is probably one of his greatest products, so having people protecting his ownership of it and monetizing it for him is a no brainer. Toby could do it all by himself but I imagine he'd rather continue snorting coke with his childhood legends while occasionally developing Deltarune
use excessive amounts of AI normification to kill music industry and copyright like they did with all other forms of media. All you need to do is to produce slop until they stop.
>>731394643>You can't even sample something, not even only a tiny bit, without clearance from the rights owner.not true at all
>>731397568I just wish he released more of his music CD collections, those got me through college and moving 3 times in a single semester, even living in a roach/black mold infested hellhole at one point. If he wants to make music, let him. If he wants to copyright and sell said music, let him. The touhou baggage that comes with his music is probably quite tiring as it wasn't really his original goal and the games have always been a vehicle for his music. I couldn't care less about whatever the psychos reimu, marisa and sanae and co. are up to as they pretend they are above humans, maribel and renko are far more interesting as ZUN actually makes an effort to write a story instead of reimu bullying kids suffering in hell like it's Tuesday.
>>731397956He is in this very thread lol
>>731383163It was about time people turned on this plague upon gaming
>>731397797The marxists had a fucking point I guess, eventually capitalism gonna out-capitalism itself as ppl produce endless slop remixes that get more views and $$$ than official music releases.
>>731396913I don't personally know, but once people get kids and shit they tend to sort of go into this mode where nothing else but their family matters, Zun previously likely had less reason to be shiesty before since he was content with drinking beer and chilling, but now he probably wants to keep his family entertained which can be expensive and ensure his kids are set up to live well
>>731393945It's so trivial for a richfag to just hire some people to do that stuff for him without getting kiked out. I hope they screw him over even more and somehow steal all rights to music AND games from him, it'd be a fitting end for such a dumbfuck.
>>731395097i blame sony as usualfuck sony
intellectual property isnt real but toby is one of the worlds biggest faggots and everyone else in the top 100 worlds biggest faggots are his fans so i hope he is imprisoned for life for stealing
>>731397676He could do all of it while having all the control, what he did was give away his most valuable asset to some jew for free. Toby is an utter moron.
>>731397968I didn't know Maribel and Renko were a thing. He has a whole music saga that tells a story? With lyrics? Interesting.And I hear you. There was this youtube channel way back, late 2000s and throughout the 2010s that uploaded remixes and rearranges of Touhou songs, 300-400 of them. Channel got nuked, and when I found that out late 2025 I was supremely saddened. All that music, gone with the wind. I really wish ZUN and his cronies hadn't done that, but it is what it is.
>>731392343michael kirkbride is the fantasy-fiction equivalent of richard stallman
>>731397213I lol'd
>>731383163No one cared when nintedo did it
>>731383784>he hates this shit but he lets other do it for him but he totally hates it and oy vey and never forget the 6 million and give 50+ billions to israel and sam altman
>>731398654He really just needs to delete that account and stop speaking on twitter altogether, the guy can't manage to not make an ass of himself when dealing with the public. Let the PR guy in charge of the official materia account handle talking to people if you're that bad at it.
>>731384042I DONT KNOW!
We really live in a world of grifters grifting grifters who probably grift grifters and will grift the other grifters back which will make the grifters grift some more. In a way it fills you with strange hope as everyone is gaining something in this situation. Like infinity leeches in a loop or two guys jerking each other off until the end of time.
>>731383163>a faggot is acting like a faggot which is fucking over faggots who worship the faggotohhhhhhh myyyyy gawddddd!!!!1!1!1!!!! my entire world view has been torn asunder by this completely unprecedented revelation never before witnessed in the history of man!!!
Remember when that kid made Chapter 1 playable on Discord and Sebastian very politely explained that it needs to be taken down and all the deltarune autists had a meltdown because>its literally free anyways!They don't understand how anything works dude
>>731383163Does this scare quotes app give brackets to Toby Shlikelberg "Fox" (nee Shlikelshlomo) born on an Israeli plantation?
>>731383163>A jew makes a game for the sole purpose of grooming children into being trans>surprised he acts like a jewWoah
>>731388387>Because it doesn't match his behavior
Toby should buy Materia Collective.
>>731385258>DUDE H3H3
>>731383315>>731383163Everytime you get big you will have to deal and sell yourselves to all sorts of parasites and corpo types.Theres no avoiding it, thanks to the system. Unless you have an entire corpo lawyers bookshelf memorized in your head OR you sacrifice all that time being an artist/creator and stop creating, youre gonna be taken advantage of and brunt the consequences of said people. Its a hard lesson most musicians and I guess in modern times Influencers learn thanks to Jewish record companies and talent agencies.
>>731389482>Never attribute to malice what can just as easily be attributed to incompetenceThat is the stupidest reddit aphorism and you're a retard for internalizing it as some kind of law of nature.
>>731389760This. You know how long ago Mozart lived? How could I still be alive after so long?
>>731399454People need to get paid. It's that simple.
>>731399803nobody except angelic freaks like bach or bowie has more than one great work in them and the best course is almost always to drop your masterwork when you can maximise its proceeds and live anonymously on such
>>731399940>Oy vey, we were promised this money 4000 years ago!
>>731400013>Make music out of someone else's music>Make money off of it>WTF WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PAY THE PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC I USED TO MAKE MUSICDon't be dumb.
>>731383163>profiteers off another person's work>"nooooo, why are you stealing MY money?"
>>731399254Fox stated that his inspiration for Deltarune came from watching his father Talmud whip Palestinian bondservants to work the fields and he was "filled with determination".
>>731395097jewish producers and jewish lawyers
>>731398098Copyright is not capitalist.
>>731399956True, but people chase the judgement of others. And you'll always have fans asking for more. And your own ego asking if you can catch lightning in a bottle twice or if it was a fluke.
>>731394623>The UT/DR communities have absolutely toddler-ified Toby into being some pure innocent "uwu" baby who cannot do any wrong at all, and if he does then it's because he didn't know any better.It's the same shit with the MC Kris in Deltarune. These people are mentally raped retards, made to be taken advantage of throughout life.
>>731387574>NOOOOO TOBY SAID WE SHOULD ALL BE FRIENDS!!! THE GENOCIDE ROUTE IS BAD!!!>WHY IS HE GENOCIDING MY XISTER'S INCOME THEN?!?!?! WHAT ABOUT OUR HOPES AND DREAMS???!!!!!!!!!
>>731383163>My earnings, my earnings for taking your music and changing it slightly should be all mine because...
>>731399956>Policenauts>Metal Gear Solid>Metal Gear Solid 2>Boktai>Metal Gear Solid 3>Metal Gear Solid 4>Death Stranding>Link's Awakening>Super Mario 64>Ocarina of Time>Majora's Mask>Super Mario Sunshine>Super Mario Galaxy>Arena>Daggerfall>Redguard>Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim>Commander Keen in Invasion of the Vorticons>Commander Keen in Keen Dreams>Commander Keen in Goodbye, Galaxy>Commander Keen in Aliens Ate My Babysitter>Wolfenstein 3D>Doom>Heretic>Quake>Quake II
>>731399803Game dev is nothing like this btw. It's notoriously easy for a retard with no marketing chaps to still be able to hit it big without a publisher. Toby had a decently sized and dedicated built-in fanbase when he released undertale too, he had literally no need for a publisher or any sort of court jew
>>731397665>Just chill out on your goynip.I hate these faggots so much. The world could be crumbling in on them and they just ignore it and tell you to chill and hit the spliff.
>>731400702Maybe Toby has higher ambitions than just Indie?
>>731400764Calm down. You're hecking destabilizing the Middle East.
>>731383163>toby turning on his faggoty ass fanbase
>>731400821What is his aspiration? Owner of Rupaul's Drag race?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiou1f5nzlU
Stop calling him Toby you trannies he's not your friend
>>731388387>Because it doesn't match his behavior.This is the nigga that's taking 15+ years to release a game PIECEMEAL in parts while he milks merch over and over each chapter. Sure, the game is incomplete and taking an eternity, but I have plenty of new merch to milk on this chapter.Do you know when the new chapter comes out? When he stops being able to milk the merch from the last one, and he reignites interest by dropping another chapter, and the milking begins again.
>>731400614i made some of these haha
>>731400821>Maybe Toby has higher ambitions than just Indie?LMAOOOOOOOOO
>>731388387Wake up, retard
>>731400920Idk get more bucks so he can fund a giant yacht like Gabe
>>731388387>Because it doesn't match his behaviorThe guy Merchandised Deltarune while its a demo. If you don't think Mr Fox is eying up every potential revenue stream you're a bit of a silly billy and also you're retarded.
Furfags are literally the biggest jews out there and the biggest suckers. Don't you guys know they will fork over like 3 grand for a commission of their OC?Why you surprised this behavior is in a furfag game?
>>731400702Could I make it like T. Fox by making idiosyncratic romhacks of a popular game until I have enough fans to lap up whatever dookie I shit out on their plates (and do some stealth viralling on /v/)?
>>731401203The romhacks were like 1% of his fanbase, 99% were people that discovered his music through Homestuck
>>731385301I hope they're doing that while being well aware that alicesoft could rape him for what he did in the PC98 era.
>>731383163Fucking Finally. I hope people that made SNES and NES games also sue the shit out of the retad.>>731383315Hes a nigger retard, 100% deserved. I hate homo tarlala faggots so much, he avoided getting bullied in school and i hope he goes fucking bankruptLeave japan already you nigger fraud.>>731384097>it's fake if i don't like it tralalalalok nigger.
>>731399864>That is the stupidest reddit aphorismthis. giving liars the benefit of the doubt is retarded
>>731401345even if it was an honest mistake they need to learn... WITH JAIL TIME
>>731401274I know a pretty good metal guitarist and jazzy keyboard guy, I could probably wrangle an algo friendly soundtrack by ripping off enough Follin / Totaka and proggy fusion stuff. But what's a good story hook these days? Skeletons walking the earth (you think they're morally ambiguous but they're actually evil sons of bitches)? Medi-Evil? Gastropod fights? Sex RPG with Chinese characteristics?
>>731401434Some pretentious meta commentary with shipbait characters will probably do.
>>731384097I think you just need to take your meds.
>>731400121>he thinks copyright confers the right to earn moneyhey look, a lawlet
>>731401434pretty good as in japanese good or western dogshit good?
>>731401626Now I know what you mean and many of my fave musitions are Jappy but you're a fool if you think there is no Western brilliance on either instrument. That said they're not incredible but perfectly capable of improvising a nice solo along variations of plagiarised chords
>>731384309Because they are genetically predisposed to paranoid schizophrenia and have high IQ, a horrible combination that makes them basically walking demons.
>>731401719>there is no Western brilliance on either instrument.There is not. It's a dead industry.
>>731401809You are at fault for thinking in "industry" terms and I don't want to hear any more from you
>>731401760*OY VEY! OY VEY! OY VEY!*Uh-oh! Do you hear that? That's the Bad Goy Alarm! It goes off whenever a goy is being bad!
>>731401760They've always been shitstomped in every single field by white people, brown people and yellow people. Their IQ average is mid high but they are not smartest, they make up for it by having no moral compass. Humanity knew that interests, oveworking and having slaves was wrong so they literally put that shit on the fucking bible 2000 years ago. Fuck, something went wrong, honestly it was Hitler's fault for failing. Math? Arabs. Culture and Society? White, Agriculture and Astronomy? Brown and germanic. Technology and Fraternity? Yellow. God i hate fucking jews so much it's unreal. There is nothing positive about those cunts.
>>731401975I'd go farther back and blame Hadrian's mercy.
>>731401975*OY VEY! OY VEY! OY VEY!*The Bad Goy Alarm keeps being set off. You do know that nothing good happens to bad goyim, right?
>>731401580Feel free to nuke the entire copyright-as-a-means-to-make-sure-people-who-make-music-out-of-other-people's-music-pay-the-rights-holders system with a screenshot of your post. See how far it gets you.
>>731391951Reminder that Alex Yard was right all along.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNh5HUNtEss
>>731383163This fucking guy again?
>use the same song 4000x times because he's an untalented rat>fool every single zoomtard into believe it's a "leitmotif" when a leitmotif is more of a jingle, like the harry potter intro or the french metro >still end sup getting sued for stealing musiclmao fucking how
>>731402443>use the same song 4000x times because he's an untalented ratIf it works for the Smash Bros menus...
>>731402443I have an idea. Put your name, alias or real, on a video taking down the definition of "leitmotif" as it relates to Toby Fox. See what that does for you.
>>731390020Yeah Kris is Chara and Chara is (you) that's pretty clear.
>>731397665Weed makes me hate jews even more.
>>731403262IncorrectKris = MaleFrisk = FemaleChara = Female.
>>731403380This really isn't the place to discuss this shit, not like I'm the kind that's too invested in "what's the TRUTH" in a game that wont' provide the answers, pic rel is the answer.
>>731383784>This horrible bloodsucking corporation? Yeah I hate them too. >Yeah, I signed a voluntary contract with em. And I profit off of the shitty things they do. >But I hate it soooooo much. Oh nooooo, if only I hadn't been forced at gunpoint to sign an unbreakable magical contract, oh nooooo.
>>731383784Good goyim, let us do the thinking for you.
>make game aping the aesthetic from Cave Story, an indie darling most known for having the rights stolen from Pixel by Nicalis>UT Publisher steals rights of Undertale from Toby
so we're in agreement copyright is a failed concept that only benefits jews/the upper class right? its never actually helped normal people
>>731383784>I hate what they do so much>Oh sure, I could stop it immediately... but I like the money it makes meYeah ok. Sure toby.
>>731403649Yep. We should bang down their doors. You go first.
>Deltarune and UndertaleSo its just trooners getting dunked on again, Rowling style?
>>731403761It's Oppa Hebrew Style
>>731383784>>731383858This is literally just the fucking "if only the tsar knew!" thing russians do. It's just this>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_tsar,_bad_boyars
>>731394336>>731383163The (((indie sound guy))) cries out everything is fine, as he DMCA's you.I wonder if they get off on living up to the stereotype.
>>731403649Copyright as a concept vs the current state of copyright.I think having canon material only is a good thing, but I dont think that copyright should be able to be sold. Once the creator no longer wants the copyright or dies it should become public domainCorporations shouldnt be able to own IPs only People should.
>>731403649Its slightly more nuanced than that, IP law in theory protects investments and investors. A book author can get an advanced payment because the publisher owns the rights, musicians get royalties when their stuff gets played, freelance photographers and artists dont get their shit stolen from big corpos. In practice it becomes lawfare used like a weapon to extract surplus from the market without generating anything of value. Copyright isn't inherently a failed concept, but the current implementation is badly skewed. The initial bargain - limited monopolies in exchange for eventual public access - has been corrupted by extensions and aggressive enforcement that favor established players over both the public and new creators.Look at countries that have loose or very little IP protection IE. China. Sure they can steal concepts endlessly but when it comes to innovating within their own borders, innovation doesn't exist and they cant cope with novel concepts like for example a chink sourced pandemic.
>>731400594Because that is the nature of music one hears a pitch and then they sing it
jews steal, it's what they do
>>731383163>Make cover (IP theft) of existing IP>Sometime down the line jews capitalize on the IP theft and copyright strike the fuck out of youJUSTMAKEORIGINALMEDIA!For the love of god if you use somebody else's IP you're just going to get in trouble sometime, sooner or later. >B-But if I make something original it won't be as popular as normie-slop!Yeah but at least it'll be YOURS instead of belonging to some kike in California.
>>731383163What do you expect from the guy who made a game famous for Doe rape?
>>731403897Copyright simply shouldnt be allowed to be transferred to another.And corporations shouldnt be allowed to copyright anything, only real humans
>>731403923>make something unique without associating it with a known IP>try to publicize / release it>10 viewers maxBut hey you are 'sovlful' now, or some other luddie arthoe shit.
>>731404030>Make something associated with a known IP>Release it>Demonetized/DMCA'd/Copyright striked/etc>B-But at least I got clout!
>>731403923>just make original mediadrowned out by the 10,000 cozy deckbuilder pinpall survival open world crafting clones released within the same 24 hr period.
>>731404090And you are better off, because you can feasibly manage to turn the 'clout' into money now
>>731404090>make something 100% original and unique>publish it yourself>still get falsely Demonetized/DMCA'd/Copyright striked/etc because kikes got butthurt you didn't sell their soul to them
>>731404165Except you can't because your dumbass channel has been blacklisted/shadowbanned and your videos won't even show up if directly searched.
>>731404030>make something original>instantly copyright striked by warner media group
>>731390157>toby has no right to tell people they can use his stuff for free.I don't care about this argument but this sentence is so fucking funny to me.
>make something original>instantly copyright striked by Sony
>>731404272It's funny but it's true, he literally can't, he sold his music rights to a publisher, it's out of his hands now.
>>731390157Shalom
>make something original >copyright striked by Sebastian Wolff 10 years later
>>731403923I think people just find the juxtaposition funny, with the 'homages' and literal 'repurposed' assets Toby used in his own stuff over the years, for profit use. His public stance pretty much encouraging this fan stuff.And now that he's made it, it's his million dollar company and literal paranthesis (((sound guy's))) turn to wave the copyright stick against fanworks, and literal who's if they get big enough in the community.
>>731390157>catfaggot>retardedEverything's right with the world
>>731383943Has he publically told off, or fired this guy yet? Years later? No?Then he supports this Wolf guy, doing his dirty work.
>>731404356tbf the fact that he did this to not only his own fans but pulled the ladder up on every vaguely homestuck/earthbound/touhou wannabe is funny as hell lmao
>>731404356>WTF the cheerful smiling friendly furfaggot developer who said we could use his stuff for free...Actually is le-corporate loving copyright-striking capitalist!?Yeah no shit, he's raking in fuckloads of money now, why would he want to jeopardize his own IP lmao? If you let people use your shit for free too much people can legitimately legally argue the IP isn't yours anymore.It's why huge corporations make random tiny shitty bits of media of obscure IP's they own from time to time.
>>731383784Can he fuck Wolf over by doing things l like docking his pay whenever he gets annoying?
>>731400821Tick Tock motherfucker. Better speed up your dev time
>>731404214If your shit was actually good, nobody cares about your 'channel' ar accont name. Actual fans are going retarded enough to flock after you at that point.The 10 viewers from an OG effort likely aren't cutting it as a pool to draw those fans from. The audience blob that the IP-strike material reached might on the other hand suffice.But all that implies you are actually good at what you created, and frankly that is uncommon
>>731404591If your shit was actually good you wouldn't need to poach other people's IP's you lazy nigger.
>>731404742Wrong, because nobody but the 10 viewers gave any shit. Have fun dying poor, but artsy
>>731404794>/v/ promoting slop in 2026You know the bots are getting bad when the entire culture has flipped upside down
>>731404843You think 2026 dystopia has a culture beside $$$? LMAO, how cute
>>731404949>He still thinks its about moneyYou poor soul.Money is merely a proxy for power.A tool to weild, but the tool is not the goal.The goal is complete slavery over every goy
The copyleft keks never cease to amaze with their terrible justifications.
>>731405043>muh secret cabals are behind it, I tell you!Sorry, the tinfoil rustler market is quite saturated. Try another approach perhaps.
>>731383163>zoomies shitting themselves over being expected to follow rules that have existed for a centurynever stops being funny
>>731405186Anon its not a secret anymore that its the jews.Even normalfags know it now.
>>731395304Never logged into Reddit, not even once.
>>731404591>make something original >copyright striked by Sebastian Wolff 10 years later
>>731405292But republicucks keep pretending to be christians. If everyone knows and they are already openly corrupt. Why keep pretending?
>>731383163>UndershiteYou made it popular. You're part of the problem
>>731401345>>731401414This thread has an extremely strange miasma about it. Is this the Jeet menace I was warned about? Hating UT/DR is fine and not new, but this shit is getting weird.
>>731405292yeah and if reality proves you wrong, your excuse is that they were just "le crypto-kike", right?Protip: At least learn to get rid of the numerous traitors among your own before you blather kristallnacht, or you'll fail
ACC totally and utterly validated.
Shin Megami Tensei II:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDF4Mtpi7kUndertale:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8SpKz2qPQ
>>731405641muahaha thats different enoughYou see only the literal song itself but also any melody and leitmotiff at all can be copyrightedStyles, chords, orchestration this can't be copyrighted because I say so so hah
>>731405641But it's ok when Toby does it because... It just is, ok???????????
>>731394880Omocat is a shotaGOD?
>>731405426Didnt Trump refer to himself as "the first jewish president" recently?But yeah both republicans and dems are zogged.>>731405464LOLEveryone hates jews now.Left, right, black, white, schizo, normieYou have no allies outside of the current political class.Israel will fall.The whole world is waking up.
>>731406238Sure bunkertroony, you are totally relevant
>>731383685>directed by Hideo Kojima
>>731406354Troon?Tell me who pushed tranny shit?Which ethnoreligious group was that?Your spells dont work anymore jewNigger Heil Hitler
>>731398654>please quietly direct your criticism to the dumpster so that my actions have no consequencesAlways double down when they want you to go private and quiet, it means it's working and they're losing.
>>731399454>>731399454Ralsei and Asriel are anagrams for Israel.
>>7313994540/10 bait, too obvious
>jew gets outjewedKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>731399956>live anonymously on suchNot gonna be possibleMore and more countries are demanding you identify yourself.Japan recently made it so all mangaka will be forced to doxx themselves.
>>731406929i mean anonymously as in without continuing to engage with the public regardless of which nutjobs track you down
>>731406959That's not what being anonymous is
>>731407006feel free to suggest a better word
>>731404418He did in fact publicly respond during the last fiasco
>>731383163Sebastian yet again acting like a shield for Toby. What he is doing isn't even that bad, all he is doing is taking part of the revenue because the music is Toby's in the end. But yet again Sebastian will shield Toby from criticism even though he probably agrees with it.
>>731401975>they make up for it by having no moral compass.And, more importantly, a high sense of unity that western societies lack. A jew will always prop up another jew, whites are like crabs in the bucket.
>>731390157You actually need to be killed
>>731383729Toby in the anniversary stream said the opposite. That Sebastian is needed. He's also a perfect shield to protect him from criticism.
>>731385301BasedTime to put your dick away and actually get Lunatic clears retards
>>731407130>>731405375
>>731384192Cute image.
>>731384717Truth to be told Sebastian is the perfect tool. He absorbs all the bad press while Toby gets away scot free
>>731383163Good, it’s cringe anyway and never should have warranted fan music
>>731383315>>guy who stole a bunch of shit for his games is now hiring people to jew people who do it to him>I cant stand how Jewish toby is...please, understandsmall indie company
>>731383163Scott Cawthon wouldnt do thatFive nights at Chaddies > Deltatroon
>>731383784Why'd he need a publisher in the first place? He made bank off Undertale by himself, why bother with a publisher at all?
>>731389015Toby actually said Wolff was right during that Yellow issue and that they didn't have the permission to do what they were doing based on the old email. Toby only gave the 20K for PR reasons.Doesn't help that everyone against Sebastian in that situation ended up being a pedophile and tranny lovers
>>731407192You're very proud of getting a high score on some low quality autistic jap game that people only like for secondary content?
>>731383630Only on official content reuploads
>>731383163I imagine these so called "covers and remixes" are just low effort copies. The metal ones seem untouched.
>>731402015Hadrian could have gone all out and killed them all instead of just 99% of them and it wouldn't make a difference.Jews existed all throughout the empire at that point and his goal was solely to launch a punitive campaign against judea specifically for its massacre of romans. It would have never resulted in the jewish extinction, no matter how well deserved it was. Prior to the age of information, it was basically impossible for even the most well informed and influencial people to know the sheer extent of their evil.
>>731383315>>731385301Wow the troon jew is exactly the same as the gook jew that he was inspired by!
>>731390434>>731394643Isn't there a rule in American law where you want to make and publish a cover, you have to pay a decent flat fee and the original artist/publisher isn't allowed to refuse?
>>731383943>without having to worry about payingkey difference between not having to pay money to remix/cover songs and having the right to earn 100% of the profits from their remix/cover releases.
>>731384097Unpaid paralegal interns doing unpaid overtime
>>731407130Does Nintendo and Zun get a cut for all the samples Toby take to make his music?
>>731403380Based anon with the right take.
>>731383163I don't understand how Undertale/Deltarune's entire playerbase is all trannies. I've never seen a phenomenon like this. I've never seen any other vidya franchise whose fans are 100% unanimous trannies.
>>731408046Toby is a member of the tribe so he doesn't have to pay :)
>>731407859Judaism creates jewsNot the other way around.Evil breeding evil results in more evil.Judaism exists to select for evil and proliferate it via marriage and reproduction.
>>731408046There's a difference between remixes and samples.
>>731395391The difference between western autists and japanese autists is the japanese ones actually build the skills to make that mega-autistic work still good on a technical level. If Itagaki or Oda were born in america they'd be making sonichu or writing mlp fanfiction.
>>731408294Incorrect. Jews are evil on a genetic level.
>>731407021Yeah, where he said Sebastian was right and only gave 20K for good PR.
>>731408238i'm not trans. Tho would be groomed into being one if i was a filthy murican 100%. But muricans in general value social coheision way too much
>>731408367Yes they are and my explination is the mechanism of WHY.Judaism is a selective breeding program that selects for evil and instills it into its followers genetics through this mechanism.
>>731408371Now read the next part
>>731392507No, the main thing they targeted were official music & game uploads which the guidelines don't permit. Which isn't good but they didn't really target remixes.People have an extra bad memory about it cause Ruw is a fag and some nigger named AkanaiBlue, a translator, hopped on the bandwagon to report a bunch of ancient fangames & their translations on the Moriyashrine website to the devs, basically doing archival erasure for free. Thankfully they just switched to torrents and stuff I think
>>731408371>"Moving forward, I'd like to create a more cleat set of guideliens for the usage of UNDERTALE's audio, as well as provide better information on how to license the music properly">doesn't actually do any of that shitVery cool Toby, very cool.
>>731408520You still dont realize that this is that
As someone who loves remixes, these fucking kikes should burn in the deepest part of hell and get sodomized by demons.Undertale took inspiration from old games and soundtracks and now they delete inspired works from it? That kind of hypocrisy is one of the worst crimes, I HATE KIKES
>>731408553Oh ok cool, so letting Sebastian continue to do whatever he was already doing is the plan? Alright then.
>>731408487Where he says Sebastian handled the situation wrong? Yeah, that's the bad PR part. Sebastian is the fall guy but that time he brought heat to Toby. But Toby thought he was right, unlike what people think of him.
>>731407698The secondary content is crap and most of the good Touhou games look like crap if we're being honest hereThe fun has always been the autism part, we're all just pretending that it's not because lolicon trannies need something to ruin
>>731408670>Oh ok cool, so letting Sebastian continue to do whatever he was already doing is the plan? Alright then.99 out of a 100 times when an organisation says its going to review what its doing in response to controversy is just to attempt to de-escalate the current situation so they can go back to doing the same thing.Toby probably wrote that shit and then went immediately back to playing Touhou games or whatever the hell he does.
>>731390469Copyright is bullshit invented by kikes. Just because you call it a RIGHT doesn't mean it's good. It's just pulpil by kikes, another excuse to steal money and be greedy bastards.
>>731394749>Nintendo has enough money to bend the laws and abuse people, therefore copyright is good!!Kys
>>731398281Reminder that if IP law didn't exist, the people that would be most hurt by it are small creatives and innovators.IP law prevents giant corporations from stealing from the little guy
>>731408885No? They already do that and the people that get fucked by IP laws are small creators. Laws are only for the plebs.
>>731383315Anon, deltarun is basically a jewish allegory
>>731408885very funny thing to say considering big companies are the ones who exploit the copyright system the most
>>731408885>>731408970Yeah without IP law, the second a small creator has a big hit. All the unscrupulous publishers would just start pumping out shitty games/media with that IP like vultures until all its value is plucked clean and then start circling the next big IP.
>>731408885if ip law didnt exist then nobody would care who made it but its a ludicrous hypothetical not worth considering
>>731409086Yeah man, I'm sure the guy who made created an invention or made a piece of art wouldn't care about his stuff being used without his consent or proper attribution.Why don't you make original shit instead of crying about IP law?
>>731408998>>731408970Nvm that guy is a fucking idiot lmao
>>731409162For true inventors and artists yes its about the contribution
>>731409086Problem solved >>731403964You can have IP laws without the jewry
>>731409186Without trademark and copyright law, nothing stopping Sony from making a shitty walking simulator based on Undertale>>731409226Robert Kearns, inventor of the windshield wiper, disagrees and he viciously protected his patent against the Big 3 automakers from using his invention without proper licensing. Unless you think Ford was in the right to steal his stuff?
>>731409331>Robert KearnsNot an invention because he sampled car
>>731403569>Dumb troonimai tranny can't comprehand that Toby is in on the whole thing and thinks that he was somehow wrongedWow!
>>731409331Copyright shouldnt be able to be transferred.Corporations shouldnt be able to copyright anything.When the creator dies it should become public domain.That would fix copyright issues.
>>731403569>UT Publisher steals rights of Undertale from TobyYou mean acts as a way to siphon revenue generated by fanworks into Toby's pocket without making him look like he's personally doing it.
>>731409528>Copyright shouldnt be able to be transferred.Why?>Corporations shouldnt be able to copyright anything.Why?>When the creator dies it should become public domain.Why?
>>731409550Because of the Elvis situation
>>731409550Because corporations owning something they never made and telling everyone else they own something they had no hand in making is inherently jewishThe current state of copyright law essentially allows kikes to own all IPs through the power of the magic money printer named a central bank.
>>731409628>Because corporations owning something they never made and telling everyone else they own something they had no hand in making is inherently jewishIf you're employed or contracted by a corporation and you make something for them or they instruction you to make something , it's theirs. You are acting as an agent on the behalf of the company and you are compensated for your work. Same if I made something and I or my estate sold it later
>>731405453So true transister, this thread is filled with negative energy. These hechimg unwholesome Toby haters make my anal plug crystal vibrate...
>>731409727ELVIS SITUATION
>>731409727Did Toby Fox instruct his fanbase to make covers and remixes and compensate them for their work?
>>731409832I don't care about Deltratroon or Undertroon. I hate retards who cry about IP law because of often times they're trannies and completely uncreative people and need someone else's ideas to make something
>>731409886Lol deranged
>>731409886Then why are you in this thread you gujarati shitskin retard? Because this has nothing to do with real application of IP law, this is abusing a system that always favors the one making the copyright claim regardless of any stated violation being present or not.
>>731408786You're actually retarded
>>731409886Wait wait Are you a BOOTLICKER hahaha
I hate jews so by extension I hate IP laws.
>>731401434If you need to ask for ideas you're ngmi
>>731409727Corporations dont make ideasPeople do.Corporations arent people.Corporations really shouldnt be allowed to own physical property either as thats just a way to ensure corporate benefits as they dont pay inheritence taxes like actual people are forced to.
>>731409953>Then why are you in this thread you gujarati shitskin retard?4chan threads are fair use>Because this has nothing to do with real application of IP law, It does, the dipshit in the OP was using Undertale music without proper licensing and permission to profit off of it. That's a copyright violation
Oh my god he's in the thread Put in the screencap
>>731409886Oh really?Why is our copyright law the way it is?Because of disney taking stuff from public domain and then slapping copyright on it and then extending copyright so they never lose it.But go on talking about uncreative people
>>731410057Denounce the talmud.
>>731410029>Corporations dont make ideasThey do, but it's more of a collective mind with the corporation's board of directors having final say>People do.Yes, and people can enter an agent-principal relationship with the corporation via independent contractor status of employee status to create things on the behalf of the corporation which the corporation then owns.Please refer to Standard Parts Co. v. Peck (1924)>Corporations arent people.Legally they are but I don't care about that>Corporations really shouldnt be allowed to own physical property either as thats just a way to ensure corporate benefits as they dont pay inheritence taxes like actual people are forced to.Lmao, shut up queer.
>>731410009Based
>>731410248>They do, but it's more of a collective mind with the corporation's board of directors having final sayThis strategy has never made a worthwhile product and you know it.Designed by comitte is literally an insult.
>>731383163Wait why is this being discussed now? Isn't this old news? Didn't we already know about this asshole since the UTY days?Most of the people shitting on Toby for this ITT are just doing so because they hate his games and are jealous of their popularity btwIf this was daddy Musk or Thiel (or whoever modern 4chan shills) the same people would be doing a complete 180>um yeah that's how business works fuckface stop whining about it loser soi bitch it's a dog eat dog world no one owes you anything HAIL BASED WOLFFCHAD
>>731410371>This strategy has never made a worthwhile product and you know it.>Designed by comitte is literally an insult.I never said that it made good products, I merely said they had to ability to do so.
>>731410446Most people are calling him jewishWhich is a valid critisism
>>731410448And it sucks so we should stop doing it.Like I said make copyright unavalible for corporations and only let individual humans own copyright
>>731410484It's okay to be jewish when it's a person or a group of people I likeSee: the discourse around landlord practices and how saying anything bad about them became implicitly associated with reddit and the kneejerk reaction is to defend everything landlords ever do, jewishness doesn't seem to be much of a concern there
>>731410564>It's okay to be jewishIncorrect.Jews are objectively evil.
>>731410180I denounce both the Talmud AND curse vishnu. But goyim, like yourself, are not people and yes, IP law is a good thing for literally everyone involved in the arts and science space outside of trannies who cry about it endlessly. Perhaps, in the past when this country was less brown, you could trust the public with legendary works of art and trust them to safe guard it from tarnish, but considering shit like WInneh the Pooh Blood and Honey, the multiple adaptions planned that are going to rape The Great Gatsby, and the upcoming Betty Boop horror movie, the modern public deserves nothing.
>>731410598Everyone here admires the character of Patrick Bateman and wants to be like him, but you can't tell me one would realistically reach his position without acting JewishJust one of the many many examples of the average anon's ideology being built on hypocrisy and petty jealousy, nothing more
>>731410446People are shitting on Toby because he allows this to happen, even if he doesn't have the power to stop it he could atleast be a bit more vocal about his opposition. The most Toby has done is write a statement >>731408371 and donating some money to charity, and that's it, Sebastian has not changed his ways, at this point, Toby is complicit.
>>731410679Nobody actually thinks Patrick Bateman is a good person, or even wants to live his soulless materialist life where people dont even remember his name.They just wanna murder Paul Allen with an axe to its hip to be square.https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bC6pmtUxe0o
>>731410679Not me im shitting out my contribution anonymously I will distribute it,But my name won't be on it, any artist is a vehicle of God, they own nothing
>>731409453Ok, what about Bram Stoker, who also was protective of his work?
