Obviously spoilers, but given the shit Yokoyama is doing with series, you can guess what they did.Leaked from the demo>Mine survives from the fall from the rooftops>Stops Hamazaki from stabbing KiryuThis series is fucking done.
>playing remakes
Why are they changing the timeline when the latest games in the series that they keep making already follow the original one? I'm done with this series. 8 was ass. Didn't play the pirate one.
Okay, but which JAV actresses does /v/ want to appear?
>>731411276it's the "modern times" period for the series, they won't do that anymore
Translated from Spanish demo files"So you're leaving Kamurocho. I guess you won't be back for a while."I’d tell you to count on me if you need anything, but I think I should take a step back now.The fate of Kamurocho is in the hands of its people. And I’d say the same for the Tojo Clan.I suppose that means we cannot fail."Make the most of every day and everything will turn out fine."You just have to be careful with... guys like me, who chose the wrong path and prey on the townspeople.You’re not like that, Kiryu-san!Yes, I am. It’s indisputable."Once you enter the underworld, it’s almost impossible to get out, no matter how hard you try.""And now that I’m finally free to live my life, I dedicate all my time to the children. It’s the least they deserve.""I see Okinawa is your home now, yours and Haruka’s."Yes, I’m a family man now."I can't go running off every time things go wrong. I’ll never be the father they need that way."Well, I can’t miss my flight. Until next time.Uncle Kaz!That damn maggot... Do you really think I’m going to let you be happy?I wouldn't do that if I were you.The moment you plunge that knife, there’s no turning back.Mine?! Weren't you dead?How the hell did you survive a head-first plunge off the roof?Does that detail even matter now, Hamazaki? We have more urgent matters to discuss.What are you talking about?!
>>731411103I told them to let mine survive and when likely no one cared what I wrote, I'm convinced that k3 is my doing, as they made mine survive and let him be playable. Mine suving is good, kiryu not getting stabbed is likely lame, but we need to see the story first. If mine survives a 500 story fall, that's bs ofc>series rektLiterally their own doing
>>731411471If you don't mind, let’s review everything from this past year..."I’ve always done things my way. And a real yakuza like Hamazaki never backs down."That’s worth something.But one must also know when it’s time to retire.Shut up! What do you know?! Tell me, what do I gain by backing down?Accept it, Hamazaki-san. We lost.To Kazuma Kiryu and his unconditional love for those kids.Didn't you learn anything from Kanda? If a yakuza admits defeat, he’s finished!"Yes. And quite well. But you and I can no longer consider ourselves yakuza."Surely someone as sharp as you understands that.You think I care?"The idea is for him to get what he deserves. He’s no saint! He causes havoc all over town and bosses everyone around, and nobody puts him in his place? Forget it!""Why does he get to have a happy ending? What the hell makes him so special?!"We all come from the same place!Why is he the only one who gets to change his life?!"What’s left for us to do that he hasn't done? How is he any different from the rest of us?!"Answer me, Mine!"Pay attention. Do you really think he’s satisfied with this ending?"What?He clung like a madman to that fake family and was even capable of renouncing his past..."To you and anyone else, it might look like he’s happy, but I don't believe it."Oh, yeah? And why is that?Because all I see is that his life is a living hell.A hell?
>>731411227>Didn't play the pirate one.Watched it on yt and it's shit. Whale sperm is kiryu's cure for cancer.
>>731411471>>731411515"No matter how upright or righteous a person is, all of us are human.""It’s hard to judge if someone is truly beyond reproach or not. Perhaps that person doesn't even know their own true nature."And that means, if his essence isn't good..."He’ll have to pretend to be something he’s not in Okinawa for the rest of his life, an actor playing caretaker for a family.""That is far from paradise if Kiryu isn't the angel he claims to be."Exactly."The man I faced on that rooftop fed on violence and relished it.""While we were trading blows, I could see his eyes shining... with the spark and happiness of a child."Tell me, which way does the scale tip for him?He might seem harmless now..."But I doubt he’ll keep that low profile for long. How long until he falls into temptation and shows his fangs again?"Then, the best way to get our revenge is to make sure the Dragon never leaves his den again."Cut the poetry, will you? What are you trying to say? That we should watch him or something?"Close, but no. We will keep him away from those who need him.Kiryu-san chose to walk this path fully aware of everything it implied.Honestly, I doubt he’ll ever return to Kamurocho."So, for Kiryu, staying in that orphanage is more like living in exile. He’ll make sure those kids get ahead just to redeem himself for his past.""One more thing, Hamazaki-san. I want you to meet someone. He asked me to introduce you."Oh? How curious. Who would want to associate with us?"They call him 'The Fixer.' He has influence in the fringes, far from the public eye."He asked for my help with a job.Is that so? Never heard of him.Are you coming with me, Hamazaki-san?"Only those who recognize their own vices can control those of others. Let’s take the wrong path together."
KILL YOKOYAMAKILL YOKOYAFMAKILL YOKOYAMAKILL YOKOYAMANOWOWONONOWONOWNONWWNONWO
>>731411613You rike?
>>731411471It was already leaked in English in another thread>>731408954>>731409559>>731409842
Imagine being Nagoshi and having to see your characters and series raped like this
>>731411760He was still working on Yakuza when Kashiwagi and Lau Ka Long were revived tbf
>>731411103>retcon all deaths in 0 with the "Director's" Cut>retcon all deaths in 3 with 7/8/now Kiwami 3What's next, Nishki returns from the dead? >>731411525This series has jumped the shark.
>>731411525Wait... Kiryu cures his cancer?
I APOLOGIZE
>>731411103Theres no fucking way this is real
>>731412407I'm sorry that Gang of Dragon will flop and Kiwami 3 will go on to sell millions
>>731412351Not yet. Majima didn't manage to acquire the magic sperm.
>>731411103That’s what happens after Kiryu >!kills the Whispers.!<
"And me? I'm simply another Man Who Erased His Name."
The Japanese will never be able to make a game like GTA
>>731409320It just means Kiwami 4 is 100% confirmed since they're changing so much.>>731411227Because they were already changing and retconning stuff since the original Kiwami. Hell, even 0.>The entire Amon story makes no sense at all if any of the Amons in 0 happened.>The K1 and K2 Amons make zero sense when you get to 3's, 4's, or 5's Amons because they are not trying to kill Kiryu, they are essentially sparring with him to become stronger. K2's brothers use the dialogue from 2's brothers, but Jo's dialogue is all over the place being both 2 and new stuff.>Mine tried kidnapping Haruka for her pendant in K1 even though he only joined the Yakuza after Daigo became the 6th Chairman.This is obviously just an oversight and them making a dumb decision with a model they already made, but still.>Majima Saga contradicts 5 as Majima is established as having spent 20+ years obsessing about Makoto and extremely minute aspects about her like her watch's straps when he knew her for a whopping three days over Park who he was obsessed about for literal years after their divorce and sent a letter to her even stating that fact.>North Pink Street doesn't even exist in K2 even though it was in K1 and is in 3, 4, Dead Souls, and 5. Little Asia is just suddenly there.It's also not 4's Little Asia, it's 6's.>The Gelataria randomly phases in and out of existence between 0 and 3 since it changes from a Gindaco Highball in 0 to the Gelataria in K1, then back to a Gindaco Highball in K2, and then back to the Gelataria in 3, 4, DS, BP1, and BP2, then back to Gindaco Highball in 5.>7G establishes with the hostesses that Kiryu did both Four Shine and Club Adam even though Club Adam was never done in K2.>The Marietta expanded to Nakamichi in 6 which means Kiryu saved them from bankruptcy in 2, but he never went there in K2.and on and on and on.
>>731413351A man who writes a story from the beginning with no ending in mind cannot and should not write prequels. You'd think it'd be easier, since you already know where the story's supposed to end up, but Yokoyama doesn't even take it into consideration.
>>731411103this game might really fallen off since 2020 holy shit
>>731411103>caring about nu-yakuza>Yokoyama >2026
Yeah, nah, glad I had no interest in this shit.Hopefully Stranger than Heaven will be good, because if it's not I might be done with RGG.
>>731411103>This series is fucking done.It was over once Toshihiro Nagoshi left.
Reminder that Ryuji is all but officially confirmed to be alive too
>>731413725To be fair the franchise had no ends in mind either. Everything is written like it might be the last game and then the next game just sorta throws caution to the wind and does whatever the fuck it feels like. Yokoyama is just skullfucking things to franchise it up in the name of what he wants so he can take all the credit. IW perfectly displayed that they'll just abandon Ichiban in a heartbeat for the "big final sendoff for Kiryu" with everything just falling apart at the seams.
>Yokoman wrote all the early games too, so you have to like all his bullshit retcons and trash writingAnyone saying this shit needs to get izuna dropped off a tall building. Fuck yoko.
>>731411103Yearly releases were a huge mistake.
>>731414960Infinite Wealth was so shit I never want to play another game in this series again. Didn't even consider Pirates and won't get Kiwami 3 either.There's no way Stranger than Heaven will be any good either.Gang of Dragon is our only hope.
Honestly I'll gladly take any excuse to skip out on more Kiwami slop.
kiwami4-5-6so he can build up the cancer in 6kino
>>7314152206 will not get a Kiwami, even 5 might not just due to its scope, but 4 definitely will.
>>731412305>jumped the shark and huge octopiHeh
>>731415220I don't see K5 happening just from the fact that these are low budget and quickly turned out remakes. K5 would require them to invest a lot of money and time into remaking three Sotenbori-sized maps for a single game, remaking multiple major minigames, remaking Haruka's entire gameplay, etc. I don't see them spending that time or effort doing it. There's nothing to even really change in 5 unless AIzawa is suddenly a Daidoji member too.
>>731413725This ask the got writer how cool he feels. 16 years, no follow up book, but he cares, lol.
Whats the point of rewriting the story? So they can have more spin-offs?
>>731415071There isn't a single series benefiting from them. They're slop factories; CoD, sports games, Pokemon, etc.
Are you ready for kiwi 4
>>731411103The fact that they take the old version off steam when they release their demakes makes them cunts.
>>731415451Yes. I cannot wait for all these retcons to lead up to Like a Dragon X Gaiden: YAKUZA IN SPACE!We're gonna fight Ryuji Goda on the motherfucking moon!
>>731414409Is that the fucking Daidoji agent from Gaiden? Are you fucking kidding me?
>>731415582At least they kept it in the complete bundle. But really you should buy 0-7 on GOG because there's no DRM. 7's real bad on Steam because it still has Denuvo even.
>>731411103They removed this Ice Cream company.Ruined
>>731415582They replaced 0 with 0dc
I like it. If you're going to remake a game you might as well go balls out. This all but confirms there will be a Kiwami 4 too which means my beloved Akiyamer is coming back.
>>731415648Yes. It's how they're going to explain in Yakuza 9 why Mine survived, but then disappeared for 18 years.
>>731415451Hard to tell at this point because the spinoffs are all gaiden shit now instead of Judgments. But it's not like they're sparing characters for anything interesting so far either.>Kashiwagi and Andre Richardson survive impossible shit to just hang out at a fucking retirement bar literally called Survive and then show up to cameo in games after
I like their shitty moves. Y3 was the most hated, replayed it recently and love it. Sure, learned Japanese while playing and now like kiryu's va in 3 the more. That said y3 has huge oversight and plenty o' bs, like kazama's cia brother and bogus twists, like Richardson being black Monday.
>>731415582>>731415728It's sad because it means 1&2 HD will never come to the west. Sega hates their own legacy.
>>731415943in an optimal scenario Sega would have 1&2 HD alongside the Kiwamis, 3 Remastered remaining without needing a complete package pile of bullshit, etc. but just like Capcom, they seem to believe no one wants the old thing when the new thing is what people should see. that, or Yoko's pulling strings to make his vision of the series the only vision, hence apparently cutting Nagoshi and others out of credits on new versions.
>>731415732Kiwami 4 with a side story of Akiyama's time in Singapore.Could be kino if it wasn't written by Yokoyama
This looks better and better with all the new leaks. It will completely kill the disgusting western fanbase and like ichiban once said> When you hit rock bottom, the only way left is upAlready reserved the most expensive edition of the game after the leak
>>731416630This. RGG is going back to its roots with Kiwami 3. Finally, the 0fags will fuck off for good.
>Kiwami 3 is the worst Yakuza game in the history of the franchiseim laffin lol. i'm so done with rgg, good riddance. The writing was on the wall with the 0 Director's Cut, but surely they weren't THAT creatively bankrupt right? They wouldn't go THIS retarded?Next up Nishikiyama is actually alive and has been a Daidoji agent all this time watching over Kiryu from the shadows.
>>731417718The fujos love this shit and that's who RGG truly panders to, not the West.
Gang of Dragon stock is rising
Why did they give her a cameltoe?
>>731415943I'd buy a hd remaster any time. As soon as I have a pc, I will play Y1, 2, they are fantastic games. Might even get the ps2 copies, as I have my ps2.
>>731411103he stops with his life or kept alive for future games?
>>731418191It's not, you are just confused by female anatomy.
>>731418278Nice try, virgin.
>>731418372Not a camel toe, you cp enjoyer
I-it's a new IP... it's not going to be shit right?
>>731418573>collab with Snoop Dogg>written by YokoyamaForget RGG. Embrace Gang of Dragon.
>>731411103>Stops Hamazaki from stabbing KiryuThat would be the first time they actively change something on a remake
>>731414960It feels like Yokoyama is speedrunning through remaking the franchise to have his name written in it as well, figuratively and literally
>>731414409sounds like a joke
>>731411103How does 4 go if that happens? What the hell
>>731418710>to have his name written in it as wellYokoyama also wrote the original games, but he had input from Nagoshi. That's not so say Nagoshi never did anything stupid (Osaka castle was his idea and he insisted on it), but he clearly kept Yokoyama in check.
I just finished 0I asked in another thread if I should jump into 1, do I have to go back and finish all the side stories or should I just skip them and go to the next one? I finished about half of them
Cvit I know you're in this thread you fag.
>>731418710but everyone is getting sick of it. Does he get pleasure destroying something made by Nagoshi because he got mogged?
>>731418851If you are playing the original 1, then 0 has no baring on it.If you are playing Kiwami, there are continuations of some of the substories in 0 and stuff from 0 will be referenced.
>>731418902Because it's finally his own vision of the franchise or some shit
I have never understood the rabid fanbase for Mine. Is it really just fujos who like that he's gay for Daigo?
>>731418902>but everyone is getting sick of itEvery game outselling the previous one says otherwise. Reddit cannot get enough of Yokoyama's slop.
>>731419003>he doesn't know most of the jap fans are fujos and Nagoshi got surprised to see buff dudes being fan in paris >>731419029numbers mason
>>731412305>What's next, Nishki returns from the dead? Yumi returns from the dead and Kiryu and her get married. Monkey paw is that there is no scene between Yumi and Haruka
>>7314190298 sold less than 7.Ishin Kiwami, Gaiden, and Pirates combined didn't sell as much as 8.This is patently false.
>it's realpffft... BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>731418902As much as I want to believe you, 8/IW was their biggest launch so far. People are eating this shit up and asking for more
>>731412305>Millennium Tower is being starting to be remodeled for its 30th anniversary >The construction workers stumble upon a room, seemingly locked up for decades...>Inside, one man, his gray hair still slicked back, can only mutter one word: "Kiryu"
>>7314193037 sold more. Calling it Yakuza: Like a Dragon was a genius move. It got a new crowd into the series who'd heard about 0 and thought it was a new JRPG spinoff. It being in English for the first time since the PS2 original made it more approachable than ever since 33% of Americans cannot read. Combine that with it releasing in 2020, the year that normalfags started playing video games due to covid and you got an unstoppable combo.But most people played it and had their fill and took no interest in further games or actively realized they don't like the series.No game will reach 7's highs ever again.
>>731418573>Written by YokoyamaYeah, it's over
>>731419325>springtrap nishikiThat sounds so fucking hilarious it almost makes me want to buy a game with that premise, almost.
>>731412305No one really cares about Billiken and Lee dies shortly after, supposedly>>731419149As if 8 wasn't as garbage
>>731411103This is the same game that introduced Kazama's long lost brother, it was already retarded to begin with
>>731411227i never got why they shoehorned the Pirates into the canon. it could have worked as a spin-off game just fine, just like Isshin/Kenzan and Lost Souls.
>>731419714>As if 8 wasn't as garbageYes, everybody, but the most hardened yakuzafags understood this and abandoned the series.Each game since 7 has sold worse than the last, not more like that anon was claiming.Kiwami 3 might actually sell better than the shitty pirate spinoff though.
I kinda understand remaking 1 and 2, since they are PS2 games.But RGG already showed low effort, since they basically copied moves from 0 instead of actually making them similar to the original. Walk and talk scenes killing the pacing as well... but overall it was decent enough.This time, however, they are:>using basically the same models as the original>changing iconic characters appearance >changing the story to the point that will change not only the ending but the entire plot of future games> worst graphics and gameplay> all that by deleting the original and putting then behind a 130 dollars paywall.They are pushing the marketing hard, so I expect this one to sell a lot unfortunately. And they don't need to sell much to make it profitable, I doubt they spent too much on this piece of shit.I blame the Switch 2 audience btw. Never played Yakuza before and think they are getting a better experience.
>>731419918>I blame the Switch 2 audience btwThe Switch basically has an entirely different canon running now.0 Director's Cut > Kiwami > Kiwami 2 > Kiwami 3All on Switch and no others even though the Switch 2 could easily run them.
Sega is actively killing this series with gusto.Gang of dragon is our only hope.
>>731418938After Kiwami, should I go to 0 or 2?After reading this thread, I will emulate 3, there's no way I am playing kiwami 3
>>731419918>>731420145Based on sales hilariously Nagoshi was right to say Switch gamers aren't interested in Yakuza. I will never forget the Nintendo fanboy who was actually viscerally disgusted by seeing a 0 DC trailer and said something along the lines of "God who plays this garbage?" He was told it was one of the most acclaimed games of the last decade and he refused to believe it
>>731420254It's already dead, NetEase cut the studio's funding and it's shutting down after GoD releases lol
Why does Kiwami 3 look worse the 3 Remastered?
>>731420315You can kinda just play 0 whenever really.
>>731420369Weird how Sega nailed the Dragon Engine lighting with Yakuza 6/PS4 Judgment right away, and then has fucked it up ever since.
>>731420367GoD will sell so much they will apologize
>>731420369Devs have forgotten how to do baked in lighting.
>>731412305>What's next, Nishki returns from the dead?You just KNOW Yokoyama is fucking seething that he wasn't the director on Kiwami 1. Expect a Kiwami Kiwami 1.
>>731420367In the time it took Nagoshi to make one (1) game he made 5 out of the 6 Kiryu games when he was at Sega, the last of which had enough content for two or three games by itself. He lost his sauce.
>>731420145Exactly, they are basically creating a new audience with a completely different storyline. All that while killing fans of the original...
>>731420315>I will emulate 33's western PS3 version is extremely cut down. They took away anything they considered too Japanese, substories, minigames, entire characters. They changed names of characters and places because they were too Japanese or could be made into dirty jokes.Don't play PS3 3. The Remaster has everything the original Japanese release had except one substory series and a couple things like a quiz game and magazines, but you can restore it with a mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/yakuza3remastered/mods/2243 Remastered is still on GOG and therefore easily obtainable.
>>731420501As if he can't just bring him up out of nowhere with a burn scar and all.
>>731420501>Expect a Kiwami Kiwami 1.Of course. Kiwami 1 wasn't on Dragon Engine, so it clearly is too outdated for today's audiences. Expect a 0 Kiwami as well.
>>731420540Even better than. thanks
>>731417718Y0DC already made everything clear. EVERY SINGLE NEW CUTSCENE is a horrible downgrade.
If you don’t like Yokoyama writing style then you don’t like any yakuza game since yakuza 3 because he has been the main writer of the series since then. Even your beloved zero is yokoyama
>>731420341Please find the Nintendo fanboy in question I want to see it
>>731420696He was the lead writer, not the director.
>>731420501they really are going the Naughty Dog way huh
>>731420696Well he sucks without Toshihiro Nagoshi keeping him on a tight leash.
>>731420696How about discussing the thing itself rather than speculating on "X made it so that means you must like/hate it"?0 has a great story (minus a few flaws but still great). 0DC is profoundly retarded and loses like 2 points out of 10 just because of these shitty new cutscenes. Similarly, K3 seems to have shot itself in the foot with this dogshit.
I don't really care about whatever retcon fanfiction they have cooking, although mine was really cool and killing him in 3 was always a shame, I just hope it sells well enough so they remake kenzan
the problem is that Mine is too competent, meaning the tojo couldn't be in tatters each time Kiryu leaves
I'm not surprised Mine survived, but it's still sillyHamazaki not stabbing Kiryu makes no sense though because that changes Yakuza 4's story entirely no?
>>731420779It's the Diaperfag, he said watching the trailer was the equivalent of rolling your windows up because you're in the "ghetto of third party games" and then he spent twenty minutes gushing over Mario
>>731411103So zere was a change to ze pran?
>>731421039>remake kenzanYou don't want that.
>>731421171I have no idea who that is. I'd take the spoonfeeding if you had a link but that might be greedy of me desu
why do they keep reviving peoplelet people stay dead motherfuckers
>>731421180Okey bai (until Like a Dragon Gaiden 2: The World Is Mine)
>>731421215I liked ishin for what it's worth, though I didn't play the original. And even some cheap unreal port would be preferable to emulating the ps3 game
>>731421140Yakuza 4 is being retconned Akiyama's VA and Tanimura's likeness/VA are too much of a hassle to hire so they're being replaced with Majima and Mine chapters
>>731421375it's so fucked I can see this cunt doing that
Mine is cool, he deserves to live.
>>731421375>Akiyama, one of the franchise's most iconic characters, is getting retconned out.LMAO
>>731411103>yakuza jannies
>>731421702His VA is expensive and very busy, enjoy your Majima chapter packed with Yakuza 0 references instead
>>731420315>After reading this thread, I will emulate 3, there's no way I am playing kiwami 3Since you are a newfag lemme explain to you how things work here, Discussion around Yakuza has always been around nitpicking things if not there is nothing to talk about, everyone here will play Kiwami 3 at the end of the day.I'll fill you in, last year everyone was nitpicking on Majima pirate claiming it was goofy (even though it was in line of spin offs like dead souls), before that it was nitpicking on Infinite wealth and how the turn based system was bad, then it was how Ishin kiwami was bad because??, before that it was yakuza 7 and how the turn based system ruined yakuza, before that it was 6 and how 1,2 were better, before that it was how 0 brought it too many newfags, then before that it was how Yakuza 5 butchered Akiyama's character and before that it was how Kiwami 1 ruined yakuza because they didn't put a assets in a wall for some jobber fight
>>731421876>His VA is expensiveSo they'll just change his VA. They clearly have no problem replacing iconic characters' voices or appearances.
>>731421970>how Ishin kiwami was bad because??,this guy is insane
>>731421970>then it was how Ishin kiwami was bad because??
Joji will be revealed to be Shintaro with a fake identityRyuji's still aliveSo is YumiSomeya gets surgery in time and survivesMasato went through the whole fake death thing Ichiban goes through and is still alive under a new nameThey all secretly work for the Daidoji faction
>>731422124Pink cat good
>>731411103I think yakuza kinowami 3 looks pretty good.
>>731422124I 100%'d Ishin and not once have i seen that thing
>>731422219explain
>>731411103Hope this gets us more Haruka SFM videos
>>731422358It was a DLC.
>>731422428Go to bed, Saejima.
>>731422124>ishin First and only Yakuza game I dropped. What a big piece of fucking shit this was.
>>731422428Fuck off she is taken (by me)
I liked the Gaiden, it wasn't perfect but it was fun and it's cast was likeable, cool final boss tooHow'd they fuck everything up so much since then
>>731422523first one I had to mod the grind out. The dungeon probably costed ten years of my life by how boring it was
>>731422480Kiwami 3's ending change is so they can change Kiryu's introduction in Kiwami 4 and avoid that whole scene/situation.
>>731422208>Masato went through the whole fake death thing Ichiban goes through and is still alive under a new nameI think this should've actually happened desu, he did awful shit but Ichibum kept harping on about how anyone can change if they just commit to it, let him be right
GOATshin got him boiling
They need to retcon y5 and y6 and stop haruka for becoming a whore
>>731422367I like running around yakuza worlds and doing minigames.When it comes to 3 I think a big issue the original had was giving you very little gameplay incentive to care about the kids and I like that they have worked on that.I like that there's more to do, I like seeing their new takes on old substories, it genuinely looks higher effort than the older kiwamis, though that isn't too difficult.I think the biggest issue on launch will be mine gaiden being like the kaito files, which I liked but I can see people having a mental breakdown when the bit they might actually be looking forward to is 7 hours long.
judgment 3 when
>>731422806I feel like it was a huge wasted opportunity to just randomly kill him at the end.>>731422846More like just retcon it to stop her from being retarded, holy fucking shit 5 and 6 were written like shit.
>>731423015before someone says shit about "muh agency" the old man in charge died and got replaced. It was nagoshi's pet project
>>731422846This but make Haruka, Kiryu's biological daughter, him raising some rando's kid always rubbed me off, this is why Ishin is my favourite LAD, Kiryu canonically gets married at the end of it's story instead of being a cuck
>>731422950>I think the biggest issue on launch will be mine gaiden being like the kaito files3 is extremely short by modern Yakuza standards, hence the need to pad it out. I'm hoping Dark Ties, especially being part of the title, is more of a Gaiden in length, something you can get 30 hours of content out of and not just some footnote side content like Majima Saga in K2 or Kaito Files in LJ.
>>731423072But Kiryu fucks like half a dozen women every game, it's hard to think about him as a cuck in this situation.
>>731423152Dark Ties being a 5 chapter story like Gaiden would be perfect.It starts when the fat fuck Kanda is just a low level yakuza and before Mine even entered the life so it's looking promising so far that it will have some narrative depth to it.
>>731423068>>731423015They should drop these remakes and focus on that heaven is blue game
>>731423015I thought the issue with his agency was resolved but now everyone is saying Yagami's actor isn't available again, what happened
>>731423387His actor is very famous and busy, it's like trying to make a series around Akiyama.Just a bad choice for main character when you have to book him years in advance.
>no no no the game being dogshit is a good thing because after filtering old fans they will work on making the future games better>mfw
>>731423015his hair is actually like that irl??
>>731418851>I asked in another thread if I should jump into 1, do I have to go back and finish all the side stories...You should finish the Kiryu's and Majima's side business stories at very least.I can't recommend Kiwa-MEH 1-3 at all.
>>731423461>it's like trying to make a series around Akiyama.They should have honestly done this, Akiyama could carry a franchise on his back alone
>>731411103Thank God Nagoshi is back so I can abandon Yokoyama-slop for good.
>>731423854>Has enough money to buy half the Tokyo on his own>Sharp senses that spots bullshit and deceit a mile away and twists it into his favor like a verbal Aikido sensei>Serves size 69 boot like a step dancer on steroid, straight into the goons' faces>literally burns 100 billion Yen into ashes, and recovers it like it was pocket change>Runs cabaret clubs, construction sites, idol agencies, and who knows what during his spare time>Puts bitches and whores to work for their dollars, and brutally kicks them out with zero cents if they start acting up about itA-kun is incredibly based.It's a crime how SEGA first nerfed the fuck out of him, and then practically wrote him out of the series.
>>731424998The Japanese love all the Yakuza games, except for Dead Souls (which is why it has never had a newer port or remaster). There is good reason why the games are going the direction they're going. It's not the hateful western fans, it's the all-loving Japanese fans, that RGG is catering to.
Yakuza already died when this guy magically came back life after having a thousand bullets pumped into him by a minigun. Fuck everything post-6
>>731419918>>731420145>>731420341>muh tendiesNigga if it was just tendies then you wouldn't see redditors and xitter warriors defending this shit.
>>731425223reviving kashiwagi was always insanely egregious to me. It still could've been a Nagoshi idea since he was still working at the company during 7
>>731424936>practically wrote him out of the seriesYamadera is making Disney level money. RGG cannot afford him. His short cameo in 8 likely cost them half the game's total budget.
>>731424998>japanese tastesI really could not care less what they fucking think.
>>731425371RGG cares a lot, so the games will continue to pander to them. Expect "Yakuza Kiwami 4 & Akiyama's Adventures in Singapore" to launch next year.Then Yakuza 9 in 2028 with Yakuza 9 Gaiden: Kiryu goes to the Moon in 2029.
>>731425479Does not work, you underage niggers.I played Y0 just a couple years ago, and it has one of the most captivating and emotional stories of any video game ever made.I am soon 40.
>>731425574The entire series is a Japanese soap opera. It's the Japanese equivalent of Days of our Lives.
Mine surviving doesn't bother me much considering Wesker is alive tooIt's thr changes with Hamazaki meaning that Yakuza 4 has to be rewritten that's weird to me
>>731411227Brother I've been done with this series since 4, 0 and dead souls being the only exceptions
>>731425223Don't worry, Yokoyama plans to fix this in Kiwami 3. It'll be much more believable once you see the revised scene.
>>731425707>no streets of kamurochoFake fan.
>>731425312At first I thought reviving Kashiwagi and Lau Ka Long was their way of saying 3 didn't happen, since I know it's always been a sore spot for the series, but then they brought back Richardson who was only in 3, so I don't even know anymore. Nobody dies I guess.
>>731426732> reviving Kashiwagi and Lau Ka Long Everyone favorite nagoshi did this
NOOOOOO!!! my rock solid yakuza plot! \*ignores rubber bullets\* \*ignores roof guy already surviving and opening a bar literally called survive\* \*ignores yakuza 5 final boss coming out of nowhere\*. I love this series but the minute i start taking it incredibly seriously is the moment i stop enjoying it. I want a silly j drama with goofy anime moments, aura farming and cool fights. But maybe this is just me.
Shinadabros when is our boy gonna get scouted by the Daidoji faction, it's happening to everyone else
>>731427348ever heard of the last straw?
At this point they might as well pull a FF7 Remake and just explain that time jannies went back and saved all of these characters. Every game released post 6 is basically in a new continuity.
Sad to say it but Yakuza has officially been ruined by normalfag pandering. Another series down, pray your favorite series don't go mainstream.
>lighting fucked up just by wearing a hat during cutsceneIs this only on my toaster PC?
>>731428391Series is the same as it ever was.
They should revive the best "villain" in the series Ryuji Goda
>>731428480No, they've been consistently making it worse and worse. I don't know who's in charge of the visuals but he wants pain misery and cancer all together in one tiny package for every single fan of this series.
>>731411760>>731424062It's always weird to see people acting like Nagoshi was never part of the whole shit show going on with this franchise when he was still involved with everything pre-IW and most fans say the series starting going to shit with 6.
>>731428484Are you retarded? It was serious main story beats with wacky side quests and now most of the games are just wacky shit. 0fags won, normalfags won. Oldfags lost.
>>731428567They already hinted at his return in 7G.
>>731411103Man, I only finished 3 like six months ago, and they’re already remaking and retconning the game. Why did I even bother? I might as well have played something else in that time.
>>731425691It's probably not even going to be rewritten much. It'll probably be mostly the same but they'll do something dumb like replace Hamazaki with Kuze or Shibusawa. I'm more upset because this blatant retcon means we'll probably have Mine and Hamazaki running around in Y9. Hell, they might just bring Ryuji back too since they've been playing around with the idea of him maybe being alive recently. If Y9 is some Avengers-esque bullshit where they just bring back a bunch of old characters as Daidoji agents then I'll truly be finished with the franchise.
>>731428934>already remakingYou have 17 years to play 3. It's older than 1 or 2 were when Kiwami 1 and 2 were made.
>Mine survives from the fall from the rooftopsAt this point they're openly insulting your intelligence kek
>>731428994Yeah, but I only recently got into the series. If anything, I’m blaming my bad timing
>>731428970>If Y9 is some Avengers-esque bullshit where they just bring back a bunch of old characters as Daidoji agents then I'll truly be finished with the franchise.Would be fucking kino. Imagine this, but with like 50 iconic characters from all the previous games going up against a super boss.
>>731420369Why does Kiwami 2 look worse than 2 HD?Start there and you'll find your answer.
>>731429248I HATE DRAGON ENGINE!I HATE DRAGON ENGINE!
>>731429369I swear to god one of these days I'm just going to replay Y4 again
Yokoyama is an awful story writer. Wild how quickly the series plummeted when Nagoshi left.
>>731425312>>731426945I hate that this stuff is becoming a Nagoshi vs Yokoyama thing.Everytime you point out some garbage that happened during Nagoshi's reign, some retard will go>Gotcha! See, it can't be bad because Nagoshi was in charge of it!As if we haven't been fucking ragging on these remakes for 11 fucking years.I don't care who is at the helm of RGG, but bullshit has got to STOP!
>>731429597It's my favorite regardless of "rubber bullets" which isn't even that bad a twist all things considered.In my mind it feels the most "Yakuza" and I like the expanded and very activity filled Kamurocho being unspoiled by having other cities. It still does multiple protagonists better than any of the other games too.
>>731429223It's crazy, somehow they're managing to infect the Kiryu saga with the worst parts of the post-Kiryu saga writing, while at the same time infecting the Ichiban saga with the worst parts of the Kiryu saga writing.I didn't think it was possible to do both at the same time with one single move, but Yokoyama... I kneel.
>>731429826YepThe only time I felt I liked a yakuza that much after playing it was with judgment. 4 remains my favorite
>>731429248I just beat 1 and 2 on pcsx2 because of this comparison, on my way to play 3 remasteredBut i wonder, did anyone could manage to make kiwami 2 mod to fix this lack of reflection?
>>731430095>to fix this lack of reflection?No. Early Dragon Engine doesn't even support reflections I'm pretty sure. It's an option in newer games, but they've completely changed how the game is rendered to do it (along with all the drawbacks).
>Remakes retcon characters being killed off in a series where every character dies before you get invested in them is somehow le bad!!!Cope and seethe, kiwami 4 will be even better
>>731423854>>731424936akiyama was great and made 4 my favorite yakuza game. Fuck SEGA and fuck Yokohama
>>731430095It's not just the reflections by the way, there's little to no people watching the fight unlike the original, despite the entire Omi Alliance supposed to be there (they even spawn in, in the cutscene afterwards) the shrubbery looks like shit (they fixed this in Yakuza 7 Gaiden for the final fight there, so it seems even they knew this) and it all around just looks really low budget and ugly.There's lower hanging fruit to fix in this scene other than the reflections, which would be difficult to do since you'd have to modify the lighting of the entire scene.
>>731430192>Early Dragon Engine doesn't even support reflectionsThat's incredibly retarded
>>731428480you haven't unlocked this character yet
>>731430413To be fair, Yakuza 6 barely ran at 20fps on a PS4.Reflections would've made it unplayable.They should've just stuck with 0's engine until the PS5 and then ditched the PS4
>>731420369The textures are straight up worse, but the lightning is better. Complaining it's more sunny in Okinawa is retarded.
>>731430325>>731429762The missing textures and the missing people it's way easier to fix than the lighting i assumeIs there any mod to fix this shit presentation of both kiwami at all?
>>731430650Ps2 can do what Ps4don't
>>731430693The elevated train station is supposed to cover that alley in shade.
>>731430924meant for >>731430669>>731430693>Is there any mod to fix this shit presentation of both kiwami at all?I don't think anyone's bothered to try considering the PS2 games are super easy to emulate. Most I've seen is music replacement and a badly done facial expression mod for Kiwami 1 to fix the stiff PS2 animations.
>>731430254Kinowami 4 can finally remove the rubber bullets.
>>731431241we just got rubber explosion and rubber concrete
>>731431241This. No more rubber bullets, no more money pyramid and see what happens, no more Haruka rape, no more Haruka at all!Cannot wait for Kiwami 4.
>>731428567Considered how they handling things no.But if they turn the prequel scenario they wrote for him that was released on RGG mobile and turn it in an actual game, I'd be very happy.They should had put it in Kiwami 2 instead of pointless Majima side stuff.
>>731431335>No more HarukaCan't do that, he has to make Kiwami 5 and make the ending more infuriating and Saejima's city even harder to get around in.
>dead character is unintentionally popular>bring him back to life and turn him into a saintDaidoji was created solely for that purpose
>>731417718>Nishikiyama is actually alive and has been a Daidoji agent all this time watching over Kiryu from the shadowsY9 spoilers wtf bro
>>731430254Mine was an absolutely perfect one and done character for what was needed. He's only coming back because Japanese women love to flick their beans to the thought of forbidden love between him and Daigo
>>731430924Yes and? There is shade, it's just that the intention is to make the whole zone brighter. Making a remake doesn't mean doing the same thing, and if they wanted to convey the hot climate, the remake made an ok choice. Each screen of the original has flatter lightning outside of the darker shades.The rest is bad.
>>731431494Without Hamazaki going to prison, Saejima won't escape to Okinawa and he'll have to get out some other way, likely skipping the whole prison segment because it'd be too much effort for a Kiwami game. Without an Okinawa segment, Haruka won't even appear in the game and 4 can rank with the all time greats of 0 and 7. Haruka ruins every game she's in.5 will be retconned out of existence because it's too much to remake.
Wait if Hamazaki isn't gonna stab kiryu, how the fuck does 4 even happen for Saejima, he literally goes to where Kiryu is because he tells him too head there
The best remakes are the ones that feel like they were made with some kind of reverence for the original game. It feels like RGG has absolutely zero respect for their original games and Yokoyama might actually be one of the worst writers to ever get the chance to handle a popular series.
>>731431896Find out in Yakuza Kiwami 4 & Ryuji's Tale, from Yokoyama and your friends at RGG.
>>731430254>>731431241>>731431335>>731431768Go to be Yokoyama, you're drunk.
>>731431896Saejima inexplicably gets transferred from Tokyo to Okinawa in the first place, all so he can coincidentally meet up with Hamazaki who directs him to Kiryu. Then he goes right back to Tokyo.They can just cut that whole part out and have Saejima escape from the Tokyo prison instead.Kiryu's reasons for going to Tokyo will have to change.
>>731431896they'll create totally new character called Hamasaki
>>731431896They're going to have Saejima meet a different fan favorite in prison.
>>731431768well yeah they can just delist 5 after all
>>7314322153-5 Remastered are such garbage ports they deserve to be delisted. They don't even support 120fps despite the much older ports of 0/Kiwami being able to.
reminder that twitterinas are now the target audience for Yakuza, who unironically praised the mod the removes Saejima Haruka cutscene like the second coming, that got thousands of likes on twitterA mod, which was downloaded a whooping 457 times in total, with 392 unique downloads.
>>731431896They'll replace him with Kuze and have the entire game's marketing center around bringing back that one popular character from 0
Reminder that Yakuza games have TWO different chronologies.> Original: Y1 - Y2 - Y3 - Y4 - Y5> Kiryu dies at the end of Yakuza 5, and whatever happens next, is now a mystery forever. > The NU-Yakuza with all the retcons, or alternatively, "Switch" chronology: Y0 - K1 - K2 - K3 - K4 - K5 - Y6 - Y7 - Gaiden - Y8 - Pirates Yakuza ended at 5.
RUBBER RUFF
>>731432489RUBBER FLOOR
>>731432510RUBBER VAN
>>731432489>*BOING*>Mine and Richardson bounce back up completely unharmed
>All this retconing>Rikiya still has to dieFuck fujos
>>731432774Fujos didn't like Rikiya getting all handsy with their husbando.
>>731432482>K5Won't happen, RGG is too cheap to make 3 whole cities from scratch for a remake. It'll just get a DC port like 0
>>731432774He'll be shadowretconned back to life as yet another Daidoji member named Yutakiya, trust the pran
Fucking lol, they just put random piles of sand to get MMO loot out of the beach. Looks jaring as fuck.
>>731433036>to get MMO looI fucking hate how every single game has like 10,000 items strewn about all over now. It kind of made sense for the JRPGs, but why do the brawler games need this shit too?
>0 Directors cut still has the shitty gear systemONE. JOB.
>>731432952Easy, they'll just change the cities. Kamurocho, Sotenbori, Yokohama, Onomichi, and now Ryukyu are already made. They'll just retcon where everything takes place, just like they did for K2.
>>731433615Did the Director's Cut change anything besides adding retcon cutscenes and an online multiplayer minigame?It's super lazy even by RGG's standards.
>>731433626>saejima and his cell mate, nishiki, bust out of their prison cell in hawaii
>>731433707It added a save anywhere feature which is nice, other than that NOTHING. THE CAR CHASE DOESNT EVEN HAVE MOUSE CONTROLS YOU STILL HAVE TO USE WASD
>>731433707Removed some licensed content and that's it
>>731433782>THE CAR CHASE DOESNT EVEN HAVE MOUSE CONTROLS YOU STILL HAVE TO USE WASDThe part that killed my Legend run for good. Fuck that. It took forever to beat in Kiwami with mouse controls, to do it without and then not even get a chance to save after and have to do one of those bullshit sections where Makoto dies after getting touched three times and then have to miraculously do it all again was too much.
>>731433835Did they remove Don Quijote?
>>731431241I would be willing to forgive everything is saejima really was a mass murderer
>>731433905Its weird because batting has mouse controls WHY THE FUCK DOESNT THE CAR CHASE
>>731433968No, just their music theme. It was mostly the advertising posters around the city that got removed with some generic copy pasted ads.
how's the combat?
>>731434120rubber bullets is ridiculous but I never saw Saejima differently because of it. He still walked in and pulled the trigger all those times. He believed he was killing them and facilitated their actual murder anyway. If the attempt was to wash away some of that sin, it didn't work, it just made the story surrounding it dumber.
>>731433036This is just an Infinite Wealth thing.
The series died when they lost the rights to the Don Quijote music theme, prove me wrong.
>>731433782>THE CAR CHASE DOESNT EVEN HAVE MOUSE CONTROLS YOU STILL HAVE TO USE WASDBut I used my mouse to bullshit that part.
>>731434359It damages Saejima as a character because it renders him bloodless. It relegates him to the same purgatory as everyone else and somewhat robs him of his defining characteristics. It's like if Akiyama suddenly revealed that he knows nothing about investing, now Saejima is just wider Kiryu with a different accent.
>>731432354I have been saying this ever since 0 released on PC
>>731434359It both fit Sega's stupid rules about playing as morally upstanding characters and was justified in the story.If Saejima actually killed everybody in the ramen shop, the boss of the Ueno Seiwa Clan would've been killed. The whole point was to make it look like the Tojo planned a hit, but the boss needed to survive. So make Saejima go in with rubber bullets, "killing everybody" then Katsuragi goes and kills everybody who was expendable for real, ensuring the boss's safety while keeping the desired results.
>>731434515It makes his story worse, but I don't think he's any better of a person because of it. I assume the goal was to give him an excuse like "see it's okay to like him because he didn't ACTUALLY kill them all!"
>>731434515It's funny how they never know what to do with Sawjima after 4 either, they would have been better off just not making his character.He is however somehow popular, so I guess it worked out.
i think this is where is top buying yakuza games. i'm not sure who the fuck this series is for now but it's not for me. all these retcons are so fucking stupid. >oh those games you all played and loved? non canon. be sure to buy kiwami 4 to see what actually happened!
I heard there's no gravure nor JAV idols in this one... are they going all in on vtubers now?
>>731434719>Yakuza 5: Saejima goes back to prison>Yakuza 6: Saejima goes back to prison>Yakuza 7: Saejima takes a short break from prison>Yakuza 8: Saejima is living in exile (a prison of his own making)The guy just can't get out. Seriously though, they should've followed through with 4's ending and actually had an active Tojo clan member as a playable character for once. It's a side of the series that's always there, but never really seen. Probably another one of Sega's bullshit restrictions.
>>731434712>he's not any better of a personI don't really care if you murder a crime family. He was a selected triggerman, and he was a stupid enough kid to agree to it. Having blood on his hands really sells his regret and tearing remorse later in life. Now, he can't even really have that, because he didn't actually do anything, he just fired rubber bullets that instantly knocked them out and then some other guy actually murdered everybody.
>>731434901These games were(are?) still funded by the actual yakuza to improve their image, they don't want anyone to actually be in it
The current deals are shit but should I just buy 3 Remastered now before it gets locked behind the ripoff collection? I own the PS3 version but I'd like to try the mod that restores all of the removed content.Yes I could just pirate it but I'm autistic enough that I'd hate the idea of not having the complete collection down the line
>>731434513Thats kiwami 1
>>731434841Having Jav actresses in the series died once Nagoshi left. I unironically think he put them in his games so he could meet them and buy their services first and foremost but it was very based of him regardless
Someone post the leaked screenshots of Mine landing in a bush without a scratch on him and the Daidoji guy from Gaiden already standing there waiting for him like it's a cartoon
>>731435092pretty much, I agree it must've been a loophole to get RGG staff some pussy
>>731435043i think they stay up on gog? don't quote me on this though.
>>731434946The stupidest thing to me is that rubber bullets will still kill you if you shoot someone in the wrong place and I'm pretty sure he shot a few people in the head/heart.
>>731435043The complete pack goes on sale for $30-60 a lot in sales if you can stomach it. I've heard some reports though that Sega fucked up the bundle and that if you own any game in it, you cannot buy the bundle, though I've never seen this before, usually you get further discounts for whatever you already own.3 Remastered will remain separately available on GOG too, just like the OG 0.
Why are people angry? This seems like a carefully organized Discord raid because RGG didn't remove Kagawa.Mine's death was left ambiguous. We've known since IW that Richardson survived, so why couldn't Mine?
>>731435285>Why are people angry?Because KIWAMI MEANS SHIT.All remakes are shit.
>>731412780This single line has made me never want to buy another Yakuza game again. I'm not kidding, it's simply too cringe.
>>731434359Yeah, I've never really had a problem with the rubber bullets in the sense that it ruins Saejima's character since he still attempted to commit mass murder in the name of his clan. It's not like he was in a situation that forced him to kill to survive and it was some stigma he had to carry, only to get revealed that he didn't actually kill anyone. THAT would have been a character ruining twist. My actual problem with rubber bullets was Arai shooting Munakata with a rubber bullet almost point blank and not realizing that he didn't kill him.
>>731435392Probably for the best. Everything after Gaiden is pure unfiltered dog shit.
>>731435353No, honestly, I'm looking around online, Twitter and Reddit, and it's nothing but performative outrage and dogpiling from fake fan tourists.I've played the demo and honestly don't understand why so many people are pissing and shitting themselves.
>>731435285retconning every single death is just tiring. has nothing to do with the crying over kagawa
>>731435285>ambiguousHe dropped from a 50 story building.Not a single person thought he survived before they decided to start reviving people from 3 randomly with Kashiwagi in 7.As of 6 he was 100% dead since you could find his ghost when taking pictures, same with Kashiwagi.
>>731411103You can get rid of Hamazaki stabbing Kiryu in the end because it affects nothing, doesn't affect the ending message, doesn't affect Yakuza 4, etc. Mine surviving falling off a skyscraper is retarded though.
>>731435285>We've known since IW that Richardson survived, so why couldn't Mine?Both are incredibly stupid and people are feeling burnt out on Yokoyama's retcons. 7, 8, and 0DC all had character deaths retconned and it's beyond stupid at this point. I don't think the issue is any one death being retconned, it's all of them put together.
>>731435285>We've known since IW that Richardson survived, so why couldn't Mine?Because if one of them survived that could only possibly mean that the other's body was used to cushion their fall, still a retarded excuse for surviving a fall from the top of a hospital but at least it was slightly plausible within Yakuza.
>>731435527The best part is that Mine's dub VA groomed teenage boys and threatened lawsuits with anyone who reported on it PLUS they have a woman guest character who is well known for supporting Kagawa throughout his entire controversy
>>731435180Yeah, they do, but I have the rest of the games on Steam.>>731435216Well, shit. You're right, I can't even buy it because I own Kiwami 2. But not Kiwami 1, which I actually do own, but not the right version? But I never bought the new version of Kiwami 2 either. This shit is confusing.
>>731423015what, so they can bring back sawa-sensei and say that it was actually a rubber death
>>731435285the writing was on the wall after reviving richardson and Lau. I'm already over it, I feel like its a studio joke at this point to undo everything in Y3 in particular
>>731435621The new version of Kiwami 2 was free for owners of the legacy version.The new version of Kiwami 1 is a $2 upgrade because they added back some licensed music.
>>731434496they WHAT
>>731435285ambiguous is a stretch, we didn't see his corpse but he fell off a fucking building.But I think people are more upset at the pattern of deaths not happening. People saw the mine thing coming because of richardson, but you've got shit like Kashiwagi which really didn't need to happen. And that death wasn't "ambiguous" at all.If it was just Mine and not a line of fake deaths, there'd be less of a reaction.
>>731435530Where was the body?It was the University Hospital roof he fell from. There could've easily been a floor beneath him.>KashiwagiYeah, and Nagoshi was there when that was retconned.>>731435559Nagoshi was still there when 7 released.
I find it hilarious that Ryuji is the one character that fans actually wanted to have their death retconned but Yokoyama decided to do basically every other character instead. At this point I feel like people wouldn't even want Ryuji back because it would be yet another retcon.
>>731435285>Mine's death was left ambiguous.How many 9/11 jumpers survived again?
>>731435786But man, have you seen the amount of deaths in the series? They even held a funeral for them in Japan a couple of years ago.It's not like it's the fucking rapture and everyone has been resurrected. They brought back one of the most popular characters in Japan for fanservice. Big deal.
>>731423510>4chuds will say this isn't kino
>>731435993Because a multi-layered hospital roof is comparable to a massive fucking skyscraper.
>>731436025They also brought back kashiwagi. and cia guy. and a bunch of bit parts in Y0DC. where does it end exactly?
>>731435285Mine surviving is dumb but expected in light of recent games, the way it plays out is funny thoughHamazaki not stabbing Kiryu which means Yakuxa 4 Kiwami will be an even bigger set of retcons so that it even happens is what's dumb and unnecessary
>>731435285Straw that broke the camels back of people not liking the dead not being dead anymore. DC was what I assume got people feeling like they’re going too far
>>731436131feels on brand for 3 at this point. Remember this is the same game that brought back kiryu's dad but as a CIA glowie long lost twin brother with identical features
>>731436131I don't know and I don't care. It's their vision. I like it.It's like saying Lucas was wrong for a lot of Star Wars. He made it. If you don't like it, fuck off.Simple.
>>731434901The man is addicted to being in prison, why you gotta shame him for that
>>731435545>You can get rid of Hamazaki stabbing Kiryu in the end because it affects nothingTwo chapters in Y4 are the direct result of that stabbing
>>731436025It's happened several times by now, if you keep doing it then it takes away weight of character deaths when you have to doubt whether the corpse you see on the floor will actually stay dead until the next game. Especially when the deaths are getting gunned down by a minigun or shot in the face etc.
>>731435993Apparently exactly 1/2 of them, because agent whatever survived easily enough. He's even walking.
>>731436215Yes, Lee survived the initial explosion, but he was barely hanging on and presumably died a little while after that last cutscene. They even said something to back that up.
>>731436286Alright, I will.
Who is actually confirmed 100% dead in the series? Ryuji, Nishki who else.
>poorly written soap opera series makes yet another stupid poorly written soap opera decision
>>731436393>Ryujianon...
>>731436286>fuck offI will, so will everybody else. Nobody cares about series in which nothing that happens matters.
Is the Fly remix good at least
>>731436371I get that, but this is also a J-drama and video game.
>>731436393Fuma. Ryuji is still up for debate they've been dangling him for eons.
>>731436393Kashiwagi got shot by a helicopter like 20 times and survived, I wouldn't say anyone is 100% dead if the dipshit writers want them back.
I haven't replayed 3 in a long time, is this the one where Kazama has a twin brother that is a CIA agent or some stuff like that? Lmao sometimes I think the series should have ended at 2
>>731436505>bring back iconic chracters from the dead>have them tend bars or sell items>nothing elseThe worst possible reason to bring them back.
>>731436450No Fly remix for you, they actually learned from that mistake and only left in songs that were exclusively being used in the demo.
>>731436454I get it, and I expect ridiculous stuff like this to happen in the games, but there are limits to how many dead characters you can bring back in a row. If they just did Mine/Richardson or whatever I probably wouldn't be complaining.
since this board is anonymous (to us, not the feds) I want to make a confession here:I thought Yokoyama would do fine and said as much in these threads when Cheese Beef Bowl left Sega.I was wrong.I admit that now. Gaiden tricked me into thinking that quality was going to be the standard.I don't think Cheese Beef Bowl is going to save us with his low budget AI slop, though.This is truly dark times.
>>731436445The only ones who will leave are tourists who have their own idea of what the series should be.You people are going overboard with this. The temper tantrums are totally un-fucking-necessary.
>>731436393I can't wait for Nishki to show up with some minor burn scarring and married to Reina.
>>731436393Harukas mom
>>731436515yes, it's based
>>731436606Anon, only recently have RGG studio started really shitting the bed harder than ever. It's a steady downward trend.
>>731436665he gets the best fight theme in the game so I forgive it.
>>731436606>un-fucking-necessary
>>731436606This. Just fucking skip Kiwami 3 and look forward to 9 if you hate it so much. I did the same with Pirate Yakuza because that game is stupid as fuck. Nothing that happens in Kiwami 3 will change the series because it's a spinoff.
>>731436701How?Okay, Pirates was a wacky spinoff Anniversary game. It's just like Dead Souls, Ishin!, and whatever else. A dumb fun game for fans.What else is "shitting the bed" exactly?
>>731436286>It's like saying Lucas was wrong for a lot of Star Wars. He made it. If you don't like it, fuck off.Ok, but the guy who made Like a Dragon isn't even there anymore. It was still good when Nagoshi was around, it only became this bad after he left.
>>731436824the people here crying about it didn't play it
so what the fuck are they planning on doing for the saejima chapter in kiwami 4hamazaki was a crucial part of it
>>731436849Nagoshi stopped being directly involved with the series in 2010.Yokoyama wrote and produced 0.Acting like Nagoshi was the sole man behind every single part of the series is insane.
Is it true the whole soundtrack was in the demo? I want to hear the Lyricism Without Tears remix.
>>731436926Kuze is going to take Hamazaki's place and break Saejima out of prison.
>>731436393Ryuji is the most plausible "he didn't really die" retcon. He just passed out after fighting Kiryu and then the building didn't blow up. That's nothing compared to how the other characters that "died" died.
>>731436938I'm of the opinion he was holding some of Yokoyama's terrible ideas back because things have gotten significantly dumber since he left. It hasn't been a gradual change either.
>>7314368248 and 8 Gaiden were both just terrible. 7 had some of the dumbest plot points yet. 6 was bad in both gameplay and story terms. Isshin Kiwami doubles down on some of the worst design. Every Kiwami is an inferior version of the original.
I can't wait for them to make Kiwami 5 and change what happens to Majima's son so that he appears in 6 or something like that.
>>731436957>>731436585
>>731437063Park had a rubber abortion and the baby used the mad dog style counter on it.
>>731437063>some fucking 20 year old with an abortion pick stuck in his head shows up
Ryuji will show up as the leader of the Daidoji collecting all of Kiryu's fallen enemies
>>731436393no one
>>731436813>>731436824>pirates>spinoff
Yakuza 9: Jingu's revenge
>>731436131>Y0DCI'm out of the loop, who got retconned? Sawano? Godhand guy? The bad guy from Kamen Rider Fourze?
>>731437045Again, Osaka Castle splitting in two, rubber bullets, A Korean being a perfect clone of Kazuki and nobody knowing it.That's alright. But Ichiban wearing an "I Love Saeko" shirt? Totally fucking unacceptable.>>731437050IW reviewed and sold well. People need to stop acting like it was some retarded Saints Row comedy game when that shit deals with cancer, nuclear waste, and cancel culture. You've got a kid on the run from a psychotic cult leader, too.But there's a shark and squid therefore the game is practically special needs.
>A>FUCKING>BUSH
>>731437313Lee. God Hands.And he died later on.
>>731428391It's been ruined by normalfag pandering for almost a decade now.
Your daidoji leader
>>731437408RUBBER BUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSHHHHHHHHH
>>731437408Hey it works in Assassin's Creed!
>>731437346>Again, Osaka Castle splitting in two, rubber bullets, A Korean being a perfect clone of Kazuki and nobody knowing it.>That's alright. But Ichiban wearing an "I Love Saeko" shirt? Totally fucking unacceptable.Osaka castle is goofy but didn't really drag the story down in any way. People constantly complain about the rubber bullets, I'm not saying they never did anything dumb under Nagoshi, it's just gotten much, much worse. The Saeko shit was awful and made two major characters come across as completely unlikeable children, and is just one of 8's awful story decisions.
>>731437476>Sexual assault is actually very fucking funny>Please ignore how this entire series only happened because Nishiki stopped an attempted rape
>>731436995>Mine's death was left ambiguous.Kiryu beat the shit out of him to death btw
>>731435285KaGODwa will prove them wrong with the best performance the series has ever seen.
>>731437408His fight theme is called "Fly" and that didn't tip you guys off?
>>731437408From where did you got the screenshots?
>>731437548It's OK when women do it!also isn't this woman like 80 in 0? How is she still alive in 7/8?
>>731437535Uh-huh, and no mention of the perfect clone of Kazuki which was a part of 2's plot?A literal clone that nobody even suspected?The Saeko shirt was worse than that?Come on, man.I will agree that they made Saeko a cunt in 8, though.
>>731437619>How is she still alive in 7/8?As Pirates in Hawaii explains how Bryce lived to be 100+ and still be as spry as a young man: Magic whale sperm.
>>731437619No substory characters age in this fucking franchise, just look at the 0 hostesseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THBqapwBQZs
>>731437671 Korean plastic surgery, put forward by a mythically competent korean gang. This shit literally showed up again in 7.
>>731437671Once again, I'm not saying they never made bad decisions under Nagoshi. I'm saying they've gotten worse. I only mentioned Saeko because you did, it's not even the worst part about 8's story in my eyes, though really a really annoying one.
>>731436938>Yokoyama wrote and produced 0.Furuta wrote 0. Nagoshi said that when he got a separate team for Judgment games and put Furuta in charge again.
>>731437856And look at that, JE and LJ are both better written than any mainline game.
>>731437918>LJ>better writing than any yakuza game
>>731437476>>731437548>>731437619>>731437754Do you think she'll be young when she's in Stranger Than Heaven or will she be eternally old?
>>731437992Yeah, except 0. Even with every instance of SAWA SENSEI. All of them, anon. The mainline series is a fucking joke.
>>731437992Fair point, one small issue:
MOLEne!
>>731438000We'll see her mother or something like that.
>>731411103All this retconning confirms to me is that Kiryu will still be the focal point of Yakuza 9
>>731437918Japs tried to find out what's Furuta up to these days, but he has zero social media presence, never gives interviews, avoids company photo shoots. His last writing credit was Pirate Yakuza and so far it was confirmed he has nothing to do with Kiwami 3 or Stranger Than Heaven. Nobody knows if he's still with Sega or went back to freelancing, like the guy who wrote Kaito Files.
>>7314380275 would be up there too if it were more compact. But 1-4 and 6 are absolutely pulp soap opera tier stuff.
>>731438139>5 would be up there toolol no fucking way.
>>731438094Rubber cancer.
>>731438094End of Pirate Yakuza heavily implied that anyway
>>731438051Thanks to the power of delusions, I refuse to believe this is real
>>731415768>Kashiwagi and Andre Richardson survive impossible shit to just hang out at a fucking retirement bar literally called Survive and then show up to cameo in games afterThey're gonna be Daidoji spies or some shit
>>731438051Sadly this is the sort of thing I imagine the Japanese fanbase specifically soifacing over, so at least this isn't pandering to the West for once
>>731438197Pirate Yakuza was really weird about it, sort of felt like they hadn't made their mind up about what they want to happen.They won't kill Kiryu that way though because Kiryu dying in bed is bullshit.
>>731438139No, no way, 5 has some truly shockingly bad writing. Everything with Baba, fucking Park, YUME, YUME is worse than SAWA SENSEI will ever be. Everything in 5 is excused with YUME.
Bros...Yakuza might not have the best writing...
Guys...i was the one who said that they should retcon the shit out of 3 and make a branching timeline.But i was thinking more among the lines of not making Daigo suck ass and less orphanage.
>>731438175It makes some good points about the corruption of several facets of Japanese life, it's much like the Judgment duology in that regard
>>731418573I'm all for a return to some semblance of grit and seriousness from RGG but the tidbits of gameplay they've shown have looked kinda shit and you can already tell the writing will be corny
>>731438386It's your fault.
>>731438406Sure, but individually interesting points don't elevate the rest of the game.3 brings up the problems of orphans in Japan, but 3 is still 3.
>>731438350Name one thing that happens in the game that ISN'T justified by YUME.
>>731411103Why is Kiwami 3 catching shit for everything when the previous two remakes were just as egregious? Are people just jumping on a bandwagon?
>>731438283Jap women are all over it. Chigyus were laughing their asses off at one youtuber roastie who made a several minutes long video about psychological analysis of Kiwami 3 box art, only to conclude at the end that Kiryu and Mine being depicted in different poses probably means that they have clashing goals in this game.
>>731437063>>731437138What if they make it that one dude who was the final boss of Kiryu Gaiden
>>731438465Baba's continued existence. Park throwing Haruka to the wolves in an industry characterized by sexual assault and stalking. Shinada gets a pass, he mostly works perfectly with YUME.
>>731438465Haruka breaking Parks yume and her idol friends yume and her yume and ruining all the effort everyone put in for anything.
>>731423015I don't even want it with the shit RGG has been doing lately.
>>731425691>changes with Hamazaki meaning that Yakuza 4 has to be rewrittenIt's Daidoji spies all the way down
>>731438465The bear didn't have a yume, it just wanted to kill.
>>731438549Would be kino but he would have been a child in 2012.He's basically just Aizawa but not shit anyway.
>>731438051
Btw it's now confirmed that the guy from kidnapped Shishido is the main villain for Y9 alongside the entire daidoji organization.
Mine won.
It's clear Yokoyama hated Yakuza 3 since every character death recon is a character that is from and or died in Yakuza 3.
Daidoji agents made Nishiki go insane and actually he was a good wholesome didnu nuffin boy all along and he's been hiding for 50 years because he feels bad
>>731438745>shishido will be one of the big characters in 9 as a resultKINO
>>731423015The Judgment games really arent good. The "detective" gameplay segments are awful and the combat is weightless and overly flashy. They're carried by the writing but even the story in LJ was already mid
>>731437535>The Saeko shit was awful and made two major characters come across as completely unlikeable childrenvery true; I went from liking Ichiban a lot to disliking him after that game, and actively hating Saeko.
>>731438051Goddamn dude, forget all the shit Twitter kids were bitching about regarding Kagawa, THIS shit is actually inexcusable.
>>731438830LJ has pretty great combat, they engoodened the dragon engine.It just suffers from some of the worst writing in RGG history.
>>731438903>LJ>worst in RGG historyThat's delusional. You're stacking up against 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8 here. Yagami leans a bit too hard on one line of argumentation, that hardly seems terrible in a series where Kiryu gets all of his friends killed by serially leaving guns next to beaten up men.
>>731438516because Kiwami 1 and 2 were babies' first entries into Yakuza after 0.the same people already played 3 and if they did play 1 and 2, they wouldn't like the Kiwami 2 either
>>731438376Whoa, what an unfortunate thing to happen it starts releasing story based JRPGs.
>>731438051AAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
There's no way Ichiban and his band of faggots are still the protagonists of 9 now after all this setup to make the Daidoji the overarching villains of the entire franchise, right?
This series is fucking cooked man>Nobody dies>Anyone who does die gets retconned>Entire plot points are now invalid because how the fuck do they even happen now
So does Kanda still dies? Or his death also was retconed?
>>731438051Now I'm thankful Nagoshi pushed to have that news anchor play Kuroiwa. They can't bring him back without recasting, and any swapped "Kuroiwa" would be a different character anyway.
>>731439081Hopefully not.
>>7314293696 was the visual peak of the series however
>>731439209Man I wish Kiryu would just fucking die. Majima also doesn't deserve the absolute shitshow he's going to go through.
>>731439123Daigo is pretty unique in being a character that gets to kill people and live, so I will be surprised if Kanda get's kanda'd as explicitly as he did.
>>731439284>implying a single person Daigo shot actually diedLau Ka Long got shot in the goddamned brain and he's still fine.
>>731439081Mine will be the protagonist.
>>731439252No one in this series will ever die.
>>731439123I went through the script and they don't bring him back. But Mine's gaiden made his rise to the patriarch of Nishikiyama family ridiculous. He goes from bottom rung chinpira to the patriarch in just a few months. I always imagined he was already somewhere in the middle of hierarchy before going to prison. If he started from the same bottom bitch position as Mine, there was no reason for Mine to prop him up, he could have taken over all by himself.
>>731439349You just know jap bitches would literally salivate over this
>>731439337rubber brain
>>731438830>>731438903>>731439025Judgment games always make me laugh because Yagami fights like a kid who watched too many kung fu movies
>>731435092You're telling me those used up old roasties in Gaiden weren't JAV actresses?
>>731439359Kazama, Shimano and Jin Goda might be the only people allowed to stay dead in the end.
>>731439359What about when the actors who play the characters die in real life?
>>731439349that's full fujo. you never go full fujo.
>>731439442Judgment would be way better if Yagami was young because like you said, he acts and fights like a kid.
>>731439442That is basically explicitly what he is.
>>731439493In many ways Judgement feels like Nagoshi projecting his midlife crisis into an interactive medium. It wouldn't surprise me if he's dealing with family that got Alzheimer's and thats how he came up with the hospital conspiracy.
>>731439442This. Yagmai is basically the >How do you do fellow kids meme as an MC
I really liked Yokohama
Write him back to life
>>731437050>8 and 8 Gaiden were both just terrible. 7 had some of the dumbest plot points yet. 6 was bad in both gameplay and story termsLiterally all of these are good games
>>731411103Has the Kashiwagi scene leaked yet?
>>731436393>ryujioh nonono
>>731439442>>731439595But that's based though. I think it's part of what makes him endearing.
>>731439745Rubber explosions...
>>731439493His original look at least feels less blatantly old man-ish like the actor they got
>>731439770Second anon here, I actually like it
I bought all Yakuza games since 4 on the PS3 on release Meaning I had to wait a shitload time for 5 and 0 and I've been really enjoying all of them, but K3 doesn't really seem it's gonna be that worth it tbqh. Dark tides being bundled with it makes me thing this shit is gonna be as long as Majima's stupid campaign in K2
>>731439683No? No. No, not at all. 8 is bad, 8G is worse, 7 has a decent to good story but the gameplay is the worst turn based thing I've ever fucking played, 6 is bad in both gameplay (dragon engine growing pains) and story terms.
>>731439594Both of his parents had Alzheimer's by the time he was promoted to a division lead at Sega, more than 20 years ago. They were dead before he even starting writing an initial pitch for Judgment. He's lucky that at the age of 60 his brain is still more or less functioning, considering the family history.
>>731439745to be fair. Dead souls brought him back well before all this shit happenedAt least he ended up losing an arm tho
>>731439903But see, Dead Souls was a non-canon spinoff where they just wanted to have some fun. Now we're doing spinoff tier bullshit in the mainline series.
>>731439658>the money shielded him from the worst of the explosion>also the explosion was a fake decoy that originated from outside the vault because you can't set off C4 by shooting it
>>731439823There's no way it's a short as Majima's thing based on what we have already seen.It may be like the Kaito files though.
Bros...Dead Souls Kiwami but canon
>>731439903Ryuji is going to come through a portal from the Dead Souls timeline to help Kiryu take down the Daidoji.
>>731438516Kiwami 3 retcons are being setup to recontextualize the plots of the entire franchise so that everything that happens in every game is due to the machinations of a super secret conspiratorial government agency. It's "It was me, James, the author of all your pain" tier
>>731411103>they actually pulled out the rubber street
>>731439778Nothing blew up at the end of Yakuza 2 though, Terada specifically rigged that bomb so that it wouldn't even have a fuse to explode with.
>>731439859Not him but 8 is really good. It's main fault is Kiryu's litterally stealing Ichiban's spotlight and development, despite Kiryu's chapters being nice.But at this point not a single Yakuza game doesn't have a retarted beat that "'ruins" the story.
>Re-writes entire series to his likingYou rike?
>>731440068If it sets up us fighting Shishido and Mine in yakuza 9 I think it's pretty based.>>731440101It's been a very long time, he seemed pretty dead in my memory though.
>>731440130Even with the improvements over 7, and there are a lot, 8's gameplay is still pretty utterly uninspiring.
>>731439390> Guy who wrecks orphanage and thinks orphans should be killed (he's also gay and handsome!) > LIVES AND IS REDEEMED! > Guy who's kinda a hothead and has a weird massage kink (fat and bald) > DECAPITATED HIM NOW EEEEW!Brutal.
>>731439445nope
>>731440193I disagree on it being uninspired, there's no other jrpg like 7 and 8 and 8 is yakuza 7 combat but good.There is no relevant urban reality jrpg outside of yakuza.
>>731440156>Doesn't know who Mack is>Doesn't include him in the remakes even though people kinda like the funny black mancunt
>>731440156If he can rewrite ||not 4|| and 5 to not be shit then I'm all for it
>>731440130>It's main fault is Kiryu's litterally stealing Ichiban's spotlight and developmentThat was really more Tomizawa and the Vtuber woman. They can do two stories at once, they did it in 0, they just didn't want to do anything with Ichiban so they offloaded it on his new friends.
>>731440159Yeah no he did die but the bomb was still rigged beforehand, there's a whole post credits scene in the game explaining that ordeal.
>>731440327I genuinely hope we get a yakuza 6 kiwami because it was an absolute mess.
>>731438903>It just suffers from some of the worst writing in RGG history.Get a grip. It's worse than Judgment, but people just blow that out of proportion to the point of absurdity. It's easily still a better story than a good number of games in the series. After IW, Pirate Yakuza and Kiwami 3 I would love to go back to something like Lost Judgment
>>731439081They already cucked Kasuga out of his own game in IW. Pretty sure RGG understands he's not a character you can anchor a franchise to like they originally hoped.
>>731440342>they can do two stories at once, they did it in 0funny you say that when it's almost unanimously considered that majima's side is leaps and bounds ahead of kiryu'skiryu spends most of his side pissing about doing nothing while majima gets all the emotional turmoil and plot twists.
>>731440327>He thinks he's going to re-write 5lel he already wrote that one, he probably thinks it's okay
BARRA BARRA BARRA BARRA BARRABARRACUDA
Thank God Nishiki died before they got it in their heads to ruin his story too
The writing was on the wall when they fucked up the shading in Judgment Remastered, look at how simplified it became when it was port
>>731440417He was a writer on all of them (aside from the Judgment games, which is why we aren't ever getting Judgment again.)
>>731440475Since when were you under the impression that Nishiki actually died?
>>7314403626 is relatively coherentif its bad, its because 5 decimated her character for touching 10 second scene
>>731440475Kiryu survived unscatched standing in front of the vault, just a few meters away from Nishiki.
>>731440560He didn't get his way with Yakuza 3. Had at least two different ideas for them, but Nagoshi told him that they're doing the orphanage and Okinawa military base scandal (which was happening IRL at the time).
Yokoyama and the kikes at sega need a reality check immediately.I hope Gang of Dragon ends up being 10/10 and mog the entire franchise
>>731440717Considering netease has basically dumped the studio we will be lucky to get a game that isn't a buggy unfinished disaster.
I just hope enemies don't block as much as in the remaster
>>731439081It's Kiryu's franchise. And honestly, for all the fanbase's whining about how his story has been told and he needs to be retired, his character in Gaiden and 8 is the most interesting he's ever been.
>>731440789Nagoshi embezzled so much money as Sega board member and Sony shill that he can afford to bankroll the game by himself.
>>731440342Giving Ichiban a bastard brother that his "perfect boss/father" abandoned was great idea, making his biological mother involved was good too, only for them to have go on a schizo aventure to fight some random old man. It had the potential to really challenge Ichiban's silly and naive, but innoncent view of the world but Kiryu had to have his part of the cake.Tomizawa's a fucking joke but it's not as bad as Nanba having his fucking motivations be resolved offscreen (only they made his unifnished business with his ex girlfriend be done on reused generic npcs assets during optional content) They had a lot of good ideas but didn't know how to stick the landing
I don't get why they're doubling down on the daidoji when they made them incompetent retards in IW
>>731440816Kiryu was done so well in Infinite Wealth, if the narrative was just around Kiryu it would be undeniably amazing.
>>731440816They can just make another new protagonist that isn't Kiryu or Ichiban which is an option.
>>731440895He was finally unshackled from the narrative albatross that is Haruka
>>731441067I liked that in 2 Haruka voluntarily went back to the orphanage and got out of Kiryu's way for the whole game.
>>731441151>and then gets kidnapped out of nowhere
>>731440879gaiden was written after IW. Even if IW makes them a mockery the writers are going to rely on them to take up an antagonist role after extinguishing the clans and reaching the bottom of the barrel with hawaii nuclear waste hoarder cults.
>>731412780You ever see those dumb Yakuza namedrop pun shitposts here? A lot of those were me. I might have willed this into being. I'm so so sorry, guys.
>>731440475The precedent for rubber explosion has already been set anonThere is no escaping Daidoji Nishiki
>>731441201Daigo fills in for her.
>>731440354>a whole post credits sceneI don't know why they keep doing this. 2 and 3 both end with Kiryu potentially dying. Then they reveal right away that he didn't. Like leave that for the beginning of the next game.
>>731440816The problem is that he has 7 games worth of static nothingness weighing him down.
>>731440959Akiyama and Shonda go to show that original protagonists in the series can be quite loved. I just don’t know if this asshole can make a new protag on their level
Was Jingu retconned into a member of Daidoji? Because his daughter caused more damage to both Tojo and Omi than any other villain. Haruka will be revealed as the real mastermind.
>>731439794'I wish I got this Yagami Hackermans instead
>>731441369*Shinada
