Video games are not a hobby, they are a pastime (pass the time). There is no personal development associated with playing video games. They give you no marketable skills and they are not transferable.Making video games is a hobby, playing them is not.
>>731460770I dont care. Being productive for a disgusting society is not worthwhile. I barely play video games anymore anyways, but 48 hours of straight of playing vidya is still more valuable to me than six months of working to contribute to (((society)))
>reddit screenshotwho fucking cares
>There is no personal development associated with playing video games. They give you no marketable skills and they are not transferable.That's your problem, you see hobbies as this sort of transactional thing: what can your hobbies earn for you? Social status? Money?What I seek in hobbies is personal entertainment. Something for MY gratification, not that of society at large.
>>731461004Hobbies are things like mountain biking, pottery, or metalworking. They provide you with real skills, physical fitness, a social life, money AND gratificationVideo games do not provide that
>>731461142According to your logic, reading books isn't an hobby as well
>>731461142No those are things you get out of a job. A hobby is literally the opposite. A thing you do because you enjoy it, regardless of what you "get out of it".Fishing as a hobby is a good time even if you come back empty-handed.
>>731460770Trvth nvke Honestly he's right about the creation vs consumption thing. A guy who dedicates thousands of hours modding his favourite game and gets to share his creations with other players gets way more respect from me than a guy with thousands of hours in lol or cs. I play a few hours of vidya every week to relax but calling it a hobby is both cringe and childish. If you love vidya so much go create one.
>>731461142>moneyNigger I guarantee you that those will cost more money than even building a PC, while offering little to no returns. Meanwhile you've got retards becoming millionaires by streaming.
>>731461231depends on what books you're reading? Fantasy or sci-fi? Pastime. Scientific journals? Hobby
>>731460770>marketable skillsShut the fuck up. Agreed on the rest.
>>731461257>A hobby is literally the opposite. A thing you do because you enjoy it, regardless of what you "get out of it".That's a pastime 'an activity that someone does regularly for enjoyment rather than work'Fishing is a hobby, because it involves more than just sitting on a couch
>>731460770That's fine. I never considered it a hobby. Its just something I like to do.
>>731460770Only retards who cant turn what they watch or play into skills by observation and connecting ideas would ever say this.>watch a documentary about a teenager who shot up a school - says they were beaten as a child>make the connection that beating kids isnt that great of an ideasame shit happens in games, except with different concepts and skills
>>731460770Hobbies where you're actively creating something will always be on a higher tier to me than hobbies where you're just consuming something. Like game development vs. playing games. I don't really give a shit what other people do, but I like to make stuff and find it fun. Sometimes I feel like I'm wasting my time if I play video games all day or watch netflix all day.
>>731461142If you do it for "real skills" then it's not a hobby, it's an education.If you do it for money then it's not a hobby, it's a job.If you're poor enough you need to work multiple jobs, you don't get to whine about what everyone else does with their time.
>>731460770>reddit screenshotGo back, faggot.
>>731461892>If you do it for "real skills" then it's not a hobby, it's an education.If you do it in your own time, it's a hobby. If you pay for it and go to an institution to learn it it is an education>If you do it for money then it's not a hobby, it's a job.it can be both, people sell their paintings and pottery
>>731461656>'an activity that someone does regularly for enjoyment rather than work'From the same source:>Hobby>an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.Zero implication of production or gaining skills.
>>731461971>people sell their paintings and potteryYes anon, that's called a job.
>>731460770>Video games are not a hobby, they are a pastime (pass the time).Aka a hobby by definition.
>>731462010You can work a job, make pottery on the weekend and sell it online. That's a hobby, stop coping.
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>>731460770Where's the personal development in stamp collecting, the traditional "example hobby"?
>>731462074That's called working part-time self-employment because your actual full-time job doesn't pay enough.
>>731462010Depends on if selling is the goal or not. If your hobby is making pottery, simply for the sake of it, it's going to pile up somewhere or you can sell it.
>>731461142>real skills, physical fitness, a social life,Literally none of those things can be found in metalworking or pottery. In fact if done improperly metalworking can be hazardous to the health.
>>731462074That's what the kids call a side hustle, not a hobby.
>>731460770Learning a competitive game is more impressive than learning to play the flute. Fortunately, the redditor realized his error and edited his post. He should edit it again to put video games as the ultimate hobby.
What is the point of this thread
>>731461349>listen up chud I might happen to be trans, but thay doesn't make me just a homosexual man!Ack, ack! Ack ack ack, ack!
>>731461231>>731461257>>731461515>>731461892>>731462176Every single one of you is a brokie. Stop masturbating, get off the video games, lift weights and focus on money. If YOU are not spending your time trying to get more money, what the fuck is wrong with you? You’re peak brokie and have no place in society.
>>731462141bait>>731462137archival skills
>extremely tired narrative that only activities that provide "practical experience" or social benefits qualify as hobbies>reddit screenshotwhat a dogshit threadplease die
>>731460770Countless people are making money playing videogames these days, unc
>>731460770It's literally the other way round. Video games are one of the purest hobbies precisely because they don't make you seem more attractive or marketable. People play video games purely for the fun of it.
>>731460770damn bitch I can smell your rotten cunt through ethernethow you manage that shit
>>731460770Also, being called a "gamer" is an insult. It is not something to brag about or bring up in public. It's a vice that you should keep to yourself. It's embarrassing as hell to people worthy of respect, and women.
This could GENUINELY teach me drumming if I really put my energy into it.
>>731460770>There is no personal development associated with playing video games.There was multiple for me including learning a language. Skill issue
>>731462264>Every single one of you is a brokieThen why can I afford my hobby and you can't?
>>731462264>If YOU are not spending your time trying to get more money, what the fuck is wrong with you?I already got rich off of crypto, making enough to live comfortably without working.>y-you could be getting even richer!Yeah but why? I'd rather spend time with friends and family, enjoying my hobbies (vidya) and shitposting with you retards.
>>731462264>Broke nigga has a shit job and has to hustle his ass off to stay slightly above the poverty line>projects this state onto other like a true brokeLmao. You might only be broke 2 out ofbthe 4 weeks in a month, but you're spiritually broke 24/7
>>731462264>If YOU are not spending your time trying to get more money, what the fuck is wrong with you?Well I actually have money unlike you so I don't have to spend every waking moment trying to scrape pennies together.
What if i want to learn an instrument because of videogame music?
>>731460770It's just as transferable as model building, basketball, hiking, and watching movies. >those teach you skillsVideogames teach you social skills and critical thinking, and you absorb cultural knowledge from it. The people around me are frequently surprised that I know about things that I learned from videogames. It's just like how building Gundam models doesn't teach you how to build houses. The primary point of a hobby is that it's recreational.A man's life doesn't revolve around how much value he brings to women.
>>731462338It's not 2001 anymore, attractive people, supermodels who have lots of sex, play the same videogames you do
>>731462264>Errrrrrm chudigga-igga, I'm trooning!>Errrrrrrm chudigga-igga, I'm gooning!
>>731460770>They give you no marketable skills and they are not transferable.I'm a human being, not an economic unit. I live for joy and wonder, and the currency of my well being is more valuable than money. Also I make six figures so stfu homo.
>>731462479>play the same videogames you doReally?
>>731462479That's the point anon no one plays video games because they're attractive or have sex, they do it because the game is fun.
>>731462479That has nothing to do with what he said, dumbass, learn reading comprehension
>>731462479They don't, they play the game for 10 minutes
>>731462264>t. too broke to spend money on a passion without expecting a returnProbably a fatfag too. Maybe your grifter daddies can help.
>>731462264This nigga getting dunked on hard.He's probably going to mass reply saying>I'M NOT MAD YOU ARE!
>>731462264Reminder that every post like this on 4chan is from some fat fuck miserable with their life who roleplay as the type of person they wish they could be, and the way they roleplay that is by lashing out at people who remind him of himself
>>731462524It's fun, but its fun to pass the time. it's a pastime. It's also fun to make a game, that's a hobby
Agreed, I wouldn't call watching movies my hobby, that sounds pathetic. It's just something I do to pass the time. A hobby sounds like something you take seriously and get better at over time like woodworking.I cringe whenever someone calls themselves a "gamer". To me you may as well be using the word faggot. I like to play videogames, I'm not a gamer
>>731462264This is peak incel mentality.
>>731460770I agree with the differentiation between consumption-centered hobbies and creation-centered hobbies, and that at a general baseline it is more admirable to try to create than to simply consume, because it shows agency and drive.However there's a goycattle thought line throughout that entire post, which is the idea that hobbies should give something back to society, the hobbies that person holds in high regard seem to be the ones that she can immediately look and clap at and go like "Wow, you're so good at that.", because the poster seems to treat people with skills as their own personal entertainers. The idea in general is sound, the person is just retarded and probably a woman, and she injected retarded woman thoughts into a perfectly fine conclusion.
>>731462264If every single person who played videogames was broke, it wouldn't be absolutely slaughtering every other form of entertainment,
>>731462590Yes, and? If you weren't such an out of shape loser with no girlfriend who is also a closeted homosexual then you'd understand why we do it.
>>731460770>someone took time out of their lives to write 4 paragraphs about how they think they know better how other people should spent their free time>and then another retard decided to post it on /v/ to ragebait peoplesad
>>731462264Nigga thinks he's patrick Bateman lmao. The only thing you have in common with him is you're both gay as hell
>>731462264You're a roach.
>>731462649So if i create a level while playing Mario Maker, is that a hobby or a pastime?
We need a filter that blocks people from posting if it detects reddit spacing.
>>731462671>I like to play videogames, I'm not a gamerA gamer is someone who likes to play video games. I don't care how you identify, you're a gamer.
>>731462649The point of a hobby is to pass the time with something enjoyable.In other words, they're synonyms.
Why the endless push to shame people for playing games, when overwhelming majority of normalfags doesn't have hobbies either and nobody says a thing about it? Rotting in front of TV, netflix and chill, scrolling YT/tiktok/insta feed and juggling streamers on several monitors are not hobbies either, yet that's what everyone does these days.
>>731462713hobby
>>731462671>I like to play videogames, I'm not a gamerNobody calls themselves a woodworker unless it's their job. Same shit.
>>731462781>I don't care how you identify, you'reTroon mindset.
Hobby does not imply any sort of skill, improvement or return. Scrapbooking and stamp collecting have been well-known hobbies since long before you were born.
>>731462821>>731462590
>>731462697Patrick fucked girls though, he just fucks his palm.
>>731462781Nope. Gamer is a marketing buzzword that reveals you're a malleable NPC if you use it.
>>731462264I had this mindset when I was young and broke. Now I have money. A hobby is not something done for money, but if it can make a little money to offset the cost then great
>>731460770If your hobby involves being physically active, then it's just an exercise that you enjoy.If your hobby makes you money, then it's a side gig that you enjoy doing .If you're having involves collecting and the things you're collecting have value, then you're investing, especially if the price of whatever you're collecting has increased in value over time.Only if your hobby provides pure entertainment and no other forms of enrichment is it truly a pure hobby.
>>731462264Imagine being so poor that you constantly have to think about money and ways to make it.Normal people can just relax after coming home from work.Go back to tiktok and buy some alpha male coaching courses, they will surely improve your life.
>>731462264kike!
Is sex a hobby?
There's something juvenile about American nerd culture. In Japan nerds can be stable normal adults, in western countries nerds are always some kind of homosexual tranny freak.There's something in the water and I think it's the same type of infantilization of adults you see in people who call their dogs cats and plants their "furr children". Makes me cringe. Devalue real children while turning yourselves into adult children
>>731462784that's like saying border and frontier are the same word, they have different meanings but its a subtle different. A pastime and a hobby are differnet
>>731463031>In Japan nerds can be stable normal adults>nerd culture america vs nerd culture japan memeThere are plenty of stable normal adults with "nerdy" hobbies (freaks here like to call them normalfags), and plenty of unstable weirdos with those hobbies in Japan. NEETs in Japan being unable to function has been a big problem there even.
OP doesn't know what a hobby horse is.
>>731463035>that's like saying border and frontier are the same wordNot really, border and frontier have strictly different uses with one referring to the separation and the other referring to the space that makes up the separation itself ie the space between countries.A pastime and a hobby are the exact same thing.
>>731463031>Japan nerds can be stable normal adultsYeah I'm sure the place that coined terms like hikki and freeter don't actually have them.
>>731463260Look at any convention footage or videogame competition in Asia vs say America. Yes obviously there are normal nerd Americans and weirdo japs but you're blind if you think the proportions are the same
women have no hobby or pastime and only know how to spend your money and make other people miserable. Don't know why it's socially acceptable to pretend like they know what they're talking about
>>731463414obviously the difference is american cons are full of frauds and inhabited by journalists/grifters instead of hobbyists. Comicon comic section is small compared to the hollywood movies/tv section
>>731462264You can't take it with you.
>>731460770Sage
>>731463432More women have hobbies than men because they enjoy socialising and doing stuff with other women.
>>731460770>reddit screenshot>spice the options field.
>>731460770I have a book on racecar driving that recommends fast-paced gaming for reflexes. You can use gaming as an accessory to other activities too, like writing, stretching, or deep breathing.
>>731463031You definitely don't live here and you're forming that opinion based on Twitter and 4chan
>>731463667True for maybe 50% of women, the other 50% of women are shutins just like men are except instead of playing videogames they watch tiktoks and YouTube all day. I remember when watching movies and television was considered unhealthy, now days people don't even do that.The problem isn't men or women it's society at large and men and women are the reflection of the society
>>731460770/v/eddit
>>731463667this is like saying men throwing a superbowl party is a hobby. Fucking idiot
>>731463667As far as broad averages go:>men Generally have hobbies that are solitary or competitive (gaming, sports fandom, building shit, collecting). Object or skill-focused stuff.>womenThey more often have hobbies that are social (group fitness, volunteering, yoga) or arts and crafts related.
And yet here you are….Curious…
>>731463927True but I'd like to add that women like things related to beauty. Dresses, sometimes things like glassworking, figure skating, drawing, makeup and skincare and also things related to emotions like psychology, true crime, romance novels. That describes 90% of women. Men are more likely to enjoy drastically different things from one another while women are more similar to each other. Probably one of the reasons it's easier for them to socialize
The best kind of hobby is the one where you just buy product:>mechanical keyboards>anime figures>blind box>pens>watches
>>731464156Yeah those are some big ones I left out. And I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think makeup skills can be a pretty impressive thing.
>>731464741You can be suitably impressed by something without desiring to be good at it yourself.
>>731464486>handheld gaming devices>retro games>steam library
>OP made a thread from a reddit post about what is and isn't a hobby on a fucking video game boardMaybe you need an actual hobby
>>731460770I don't know why they put writing up there. I write. Anyone can write.
>>731460770You have to go even further than that. Even those 'productive' hobbies are worthless unless you aim for greatness and mastery of it. There's no point in playing an instrument, drawing or writing unless your goal is to become successful with them.Strumming some chords on guitar as you play for yourself, some acquaintances and maybe a small band that nobody listens to is just a waste of time.
>>731464903>>731464741Yeah I know I was just poorly referencing thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQegG2MHMs
>>731465087Some people get real autistic when it comes to the topic of what is a hobby or worthwhile one.
>>731465250It's not a waste of time to pay an instrument but not be an expert at it. It's just a fun time waster no different than videogames. If you play often enough eventually you'll get good without ever even trying anyways
>>731462693>If you weren't such a loser you'd understand why I'm such a self loathing loser???What the fuck are you trying to say?
>>731460770>There is no personal developmentwhere in the definition of "hobby" does it say personal development is an integral component?
>>731465783it's a joke anon, the post is implying he's an out of shape closeted homo with no gf because >Reminder that every post like this on 4chan is from some fat fuck miserable with their life who roleplay as the type of person they wish they could be, and the way they roleplay that is by lashing out at people who remind him of himself
>>731460770that pic is fucking trashnot cause the point is making is wrong, it's not, but the word he used to put things under the same umbrella does not mean what he thinks it does.By DEFINITION, a hobby is something someone does as a form of pleaseure to relax in their free time to pass the time, and depending on the dictionary you want to use, one major defining aspect is exactly that hobbies are done passively.On the other hand, what he describes as hobbies that take effort and reqire skills along developing them, they're not hobbies at all, they're passions, and the term "interest" is where the two usually distinct definitions overlap.As example, reading a book is a hobby, writing a book is a passion, and reading a book which furthers your knowledge is an interest.Collectng pottery is a hobby, making pottery is a passion, studying pottery(as in, informing yourself about how different culture make and use pottery, etc) is an interest.So of course passions and interests should be regarded higher than hobbies, cause they're not hobbies.And to all of you retards who think hobbies are an active thing that require and help devoping skills while the passive consuming is "pasttime", you're objectively wrong, take any synonymous and contraried dictionary, and you'll see that "pastime" is a synonym for "hobby" and viceversa, as well as both being synonyms for "recreation".
>>731466021I get it now I'm just retarded thank you
>>731466201no prob
