yeah, uh huh
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I don't see how this is my problem

>>731547896
it only has just been verified? jesus fucking christ why is the EU so goddamn slow?

>>731547896
If free market is about allowing the destruction of my property whenever the manufacturer so decides I don't want free market.

>>731547896
>The free market
ah yes, I too like illusions

I don't believe in jewish fairytales

Bharat_Nation thread

Did you know Google's reverse image search was crippled in order to comply with EU mandates? Europeans are the reason why you will never easily find the source for any image again.

Why are Americans so addicted to getting raped in the ass by corporations?
Reminder it's been a long time since the EU decided it's fully legal to resell used licences for premium software. Does that upset you too?

>>731547896
this but unironically, the government is going to make things worse.

>>731547940
He's so cool...

>>731548052
Just use yandex,
Also was it the EU that completely fucked up youtube search? Nope just google doing it to push shorts. Realistically people could drive car bombs into google HQ and I wouldn't give a shit fuck that company.

>>731547976
Imagine a typical slow-ass government bureaucracy that can barely get things done. Now imagine 30 of them trying to cooperate working on the same thing at once. Then imagine one additional huge super-bureaucracy layered on top of that.

every company has their hand up my ass already, now I'm just telling them to have a few hands shoved up theirs. idk it feels like talking to actual children/shills when talking about this because they think governments aren't already hundreds of years deep into corporate shiniggery and the only reason this hasn't happened already is because you can pay off most crimes when they're not actually illegal yet.

>>731548213
Yandax, Baidu, and almost every other option is complete dogshit.

>>731547896
>European Commission review:

>"Some nerds want us to force developers to keep their "Marios" running forever or something"
>"Lmao nah. Let's go for lunch."
It'll be the same as the "discussion" for it in the UK parliament. The same as when people petitioned for changes to the Online Safety Act too.

>>731548060
Americans are the raped. A whole country full of volunteers to lick Israel's anus clean, not a single spine among any American citizen, they are born to be humiliated and abused and raped and forgotten.

>>731548052
Is that really the reason it's so shit now? I just assumed it was Google being incompetent and "improving" a good thing with AI nonsense or something.

>>731548213
No that's because google is run by indian "vibe coders" with fake degrees now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI

I voted on it before that video even came out but I didnt expect it to succeed. They got what 400k votes in the first 8 month or so and entirety of southern europe didnt seem to give 2 shits about it.

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>>731548591
Sar I need you to please do the needful

Free market should theoretically result in the best product.
We can see that isn't happening when companies either invest in each other or target normalfags that complain about shit but still consume shit.

>>731548213
Yandex somehow became worse than jewgle's reverse search. shame since they were really good a few years ago.

>>731548649
>Free market should theoretically result in the best product.
No it shouldn't, even in theory.
To think that free markets would result in good outcomes means believing that the majority of people are rational, discerning actors who know what's best for themselves, but there's no evidence to support this idea.

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>>731547896
the free market in question:

>>731548591
The current day strawman is to blame for something which happened a decade ago?

>>731547896
The EU is good, you're a retard. Mostly everything the EU has done has been good so far.

>>731548052
There were no EU mandates, google just liked the shiny new google lens better and killed image search for it

>>731548738
What? The indians didn't go away, they're still in charge of google and its quality has consistently declined ever since.
Indians didn't "happen" ten years ago, they're a scourge on silicon valley to this day and it's only getting worse.

>>731548045
question out of curiosity, was his twitter really created at india at some point?

>>731548398
You're confusing the UK which is a dictatorship that doesn't give about its slaves with the EU which cares about their people and is trying to do good things to improve their lives. They will rape companies like yours that try to force always online single player game that you will shut down the moment you want to force gamers to buy the new version for $99.

>>731548716
Isn't that like 90% of political systems other than Monarchism (Which has the assumption that the leader ordained is a rational actor) and anarcho-primitavism?

>>731548797
Yass I love when they force countries to have minimum immigration quotas!

>>731548870
Nah he's a pole or something hence why he's a anti-woke chad. He probably fap to cunny too which is legal in both poland and EU as a whole. (as long as it's not realistic)

>>731548852
Were they "vibe coding" 10 years ago?

>>731548910
Quotas are made so Italy and Germany don't get all the shitty immigrants. It's pushed by countries that get fucked by migrants.

>>731548620
Eceleb drama ironically saved the moment.

>>731548876
>the EU which cares about their people and is trying to do good things to improve their lives
Lol

>They will rape companies like yours
>you
Oh so you're a schizo who thinks everyone else is a corpo insider out to get them.

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>>731548915
>You can draw the Prophet Muhammad (May peace be upon him) if the Ministry of Truth does not deem it to be "too realistic", whatever that means
lol

>>731548881
I mean it's really just our modern brand of deracinated liberal democracies that's based on this ideal.
Even the founding fathers of America believed in applying strict standards to who is actually able to participate in the political process.

>>731549032
Germans have drawn Aisha naked on krautschan.

>>731548738
The big tech companies have been and will keep hiring cheap remote labour from third world countries to increase their revenue even if you plug your ears and refuse to listen

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>>731548213
>2019 Yandex
>Put closeup screenshot of a 480p frame from a hentai
>50 links to that same video and other ones featuring hentai girls who look vaguely similar
>2026 Yandex
>Put CG from a popular well known H game
>"Urrrrrrhhhhhh, you wanted bikini photos?? Here Chainsaw Man ai Reze hehe"

>>731547896
Concordbros were robbed

>>731547896
Can't wait till EU parliament discard it in 2028.

>>731548964
How about just not taking any of them in? There is literally no reason to take in a single rapefugee, except, oh wait!
The ECHR forces europeans in general to take in infinite brownoids and makes mass-deportations effectively illegal, thank you EU!

>>731549096
I just tried an image from loli from a DMM game and yandex got it right right away.

>>731548915
>He probably fap
>probably
why are you ashamed to own up to Bharat_Nation bhai?

>>731549134
EU originally didn't want to take them they started taking them in after there were mass deaths in boats.

>>731547976
They have to verify every signature individually, millions is a lot

>>731549164
>implying it's a bad thing that he fap to it
Us EU chad have free speech unlike US that ban porn and will jail you over anime pics.

>people actually mad companies with live service games will be forced to give us private servers on closure
If I give them money at any point, I deserve a private server on closure. It's a boot for corporations so it's okay and if you disagree you're a contrarian turbo cuck, like I don't even accept that a real person with brain cells could disagree. Imagine hating yourself like that or putting owning the libs over your own agency for shit like this because its technically anti-free market when it's already a massive can of worms over whether we even have one at all anyway. Fucking unbelievable. 100% bots inciting psychosis in the feebleminded.

EU doing something I dislike? I will make fun of them.
EU doing something I like? I will support them.
This is the mindset people should have to anything political.

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>>731548052
that's a lie, the first and worst time it was crippled was because it was detecting blacks as gorillas, they removed gorillas from search and that wasn't enough so they fucked it all

>>731549189
The boats are literally only coming because of EU-funded NGOs in the first place.

>>731549270
>EU-funded
You belong in an asylum if you think they're anything but grifters who are barely veiled slavers.

>>731549065
So huuuh American? Why aren't you responding? Too scared of your obscenity laws?

maybe I'll get an answer in this shill thread!
>>731522564

>>731548652
What happened? I noticed too. What's the alternative now?

>>731549270
Israel and US funded NGOs

>>731549096
I regularly use yandex to find obscure doujins posted on xitter with the (1/7) SFW format that doesn't have the name of it in the replies just some shortened link that gets caught by webguard and it works every time.

>>731549318
You're ascribing motivations and intent, which has nothing to do with my posts.
All I've stated is that the EU, and some of its major member states like Germany, provide significant funding towards NGOs that facilitate boat migration into Europe, which is true.

>>731548052
>Did you know Google's reverse image search was crippled in order to comply with EU mandates?
why are you lying you retarded shill?

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Free market doesn't work, not by itself, when one or several companies get on top, they will start working on making sure that they stay there, this can take shape of a monololy where they suppress every up and coming competitor into bankrupcy through sheer force of the capital, see Standard Oil during the gilded age, or band together through backroom dealings to make sure they keep their share of the pie and all newcomers get shafted, see today's tech industry, and when they are on top they more often than not focus on killing off their competitors rather than satisfying the customer, so they will and do cut corners, as much as they can, because if the customer has no choice, he will biy anyways
Government acts, or should act, as a counterbalance to it by imposing regulations, in some places like EU it works, in China it sorta works but in a weird protectionism way that makes it so only countriside peasants are hurt, and US gave up on that and now yanks eat chlorine chicken

>>731548962
No, there were tossing old White CEO salad so they could get a recruiting position.

>>731549270
I really doubt RSF in Sudan and the like are funded by EU

>>731549365
Depends, bureaucracy takes a long time before implementation. Could be written into law in 6 months or two years.

>>731549454
That's true as well, but the EU is a significant contributor as well and like I said, created the legal framework that makes it impossible to remove most of these people once they arrive.
They literally just need to throw away their passport and the ECHR makes it impossible to deport them, countries like Germany are full of people with denied asylum claims who can't be deported anyway for this reason.

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>>731547896
wavechads won bigly

>>731547896
Good. If you charge for a product that has no reason to expire then it should always be available for me to use. I paid money for it, and thus I have a right to use it forever.

>>731547896
>The free market lost
USA isn't a free market you retarded shill

>>731549510
It's interesting that Ford's idea to kill competition was to price the cars just above manufacturing cost and paying workers a significant salary, still choking competition but in a way that benefits the economy and industry.
Then the shareholders got uppity and hence Dodge V Ford.

>>731549642
Shareholders really the devil, aren't they?
A lot of corporate problems nowadays, unreasonable growths each quarter, which forces either mass layoffs, higher prices or cutting corners in qualify, seem to stem from their demand for rapid short-term profits

>>731549547
NGOs provide the boats and "sea rescue" services that pick up many of the boats as soon as they leave their coasts, among many other nefarious activities like running ads in africa advertising european welfare benefits and such.

>>731549096
Safe search is enabled by default now just disable it

>>731549501
>Open up Lenso.ai
>Do a face search from an EU IP
>Do the same search again with an IP from the free world
>???
>Profit
But the EU dindu nuffins

>>731547896
good, fuck them gay ass GAAS

>>731549510
>when they are on top they more often than not focus on killing off their competitors rather than satisfying the customer, so they will and do cut corners, as much as they can, because if the customer has no choice, he will biy anyways
It's all about maximizing the profit margin. When you reach a vendor lock-in, you can begin to skimp on your expenses to reach higher profits. Who cares if customers are unhappy, they have no choice and you'll rake in the money anyway!

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>board gets spammed with this shit for months on end
>anyone daring to say it won't amount to anything is accused of being a shill
>*several months later*
>GUYSE WE WON!!11
>*does nothing*
gg
no re

>>731549809
not him but I posted the real cause here >>731549269 it was done for long before the EU did anything to it

>>731549927
>bureaucracy takes a long time

>>731549978
>TWO MORE WEEKS

>>731548876
>the EU which cares about their people and is trying to do good things to improve their lives.
My life got so improved by those migrants quota! And now they will add a bajillon indian on top of it, they care so much!

I look forward to the day the world puts Europeans into their own internet box. It's like a reverse Great Firewall. You'll have the dumb-downed, censored, inferior version of everything on the internet. Have fun with your retarded regulations in your retard corner.

>>731550192
I am sorry companies aren't allowed to fuck you over as much as they could have otherwise

>>731550192
>an internet with just my fellow white man and not a single brown nation
oh yes please please please please please please make it happen

>>731547896
>Poland: 143826
BRAWO DONALD!

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>>731548052
open wide, here comes the spoon

>>731547896
The free market does not exist under current Noosphere regulation also known under the very manipulative moniker of "Intellectual Property", a term that implies that the companies own these concepts, rather than receiving arbitrary licenses from the government.
Being protected by Noosphere regulation is a privilege and if a company can't ensure the functioning of the section of Noosphere that they are borrowing from humanity, then they should be forced to give up the protections that keep people from encroaching on it and maintaining it themselves.
If they want to avoid this, then they can simply not publish their work or not create a requirement for unnecessary maintenance that they do not want to fulfill indefinitely.

The current absolute state of copyright is the largest and most grotesque EU (or rather UK, since they're not in the EU anymore) hand up everyone's ass.

>>731549718
They are, but it also sucks because that understands why they exist
>I have an idea for a new product or service but don't have the capital for it.
>I have capital and want to make your product a reality, all I ask in return is a certain % of kickbacks based on performance.
But this got twisted hard into the modern stock market, where valuation doesn't even need to reflect the actual performance of a company, and said valuation itself can be manipulated to have these companies invest into each other (See: The investment cycle of the AI industry currently).

>>731550230
If the EU had its way, this site would be dead.

>>731550334
2009 google worked better than those
tineye is damn near unusable nowadays
Idk why its so hard for people on the internet to comprehend enshittening

>>731550405
No, thats just the British gov being a bunch of twats.

>>731550192
>Corporations shouldn't be able to take back the product I paid for
>NOOOOO THIS IS LITTERALY COMMUNISM, THIS IS LE BAD, THINK ABOUT HOW THOSE BILLIONAIRES WILL FEEL !!!

>>731550405
Fuck are you on about?

>>731548052
I remember when Google reverse image was amazing, and then suddenly it became complete dogwater, so I believe you.

>Ubisoft is failing a spectacular rate
>SKG is verified and going to EU parliament
This week is good.

>>731547896
>EU
Not my problem

>>731550460
Or youtube
Or google search in general
You were able to get THE thing you were looking for, now it's sponsored result, short, unrelated shit peoples looked for and maybe a thing that might look like what you're looking for

>>731550451
It's a different kind of product that has its own risks. Known risks. You KNOW that there's a chance the slop live service crap you buy into might go belly up.

As the 1st 2nd gen blizzard employee I will veto the EU commissars. Its my duty

>>731549510
In defense of the free market, this requires the power of government intervention to work, the problem is government intervention isn’t going away. Modern tech monopolism and general corporate oligarchy is heavily dependant on state-enforced IP protections. Standard Oil, in its time, was reliant on the railroads which were built with enormous public subsidy and required state intervention to ensure continuous land access.

The state is a weapon. Capitalists wield it against us and we should not be afraid of turning it back on them if we have the opportunity, but it’s dangerous to treat the state like a solution to capitalism when it is the primary tool by which it persists.

>>731550373
One thing I've wondered about stocks as a way to fund a venture, doesn't capital only move to the company during IPO? Isn't the stock market essentially a second-hand market where the value is no longer relevant to the company directly? How does a company profit from higher stock prices after IPO?

>>731550258
90% of kids brussels are immigrants, I'm not even exaggerating look it up.
If the EU gets its way then there won't be a single White majority nation left in europe.

>>731550531
This holy shit
I'm genuinely unable to find many memes and videos I saw at some point because retarded google/youtube goes "hmmmm you have this specific word in here so I will center all resuls around that keyword instead of what you were looking for specifically, also here's a bunch of random shorts
God damn

>>731550574
Hmmm no :)
I WILL own thing and I WILL be happy

>>731550615
What is he even up to these days? Maldavius Figtree thing got his panties in a twist.

>>731550626
The secret is buying the stocks back to inflate the valuation and then selling it back to stockholders when it increases. Nvidia has done this quite a bit, same with Apple.

>>731550648
Those days quotations mark aren't even working
I was able to search for a specific topic on a specific forum easly, just by typing few word
Now it's next to impossible
You have a question ? It's always reddit or quora

>>731547896
>Free market
Free from what? I'll tell you, free from YOU abusing it.
You're not part of the club of those who can with impunity.
Feel better yet?

>>731550627
And that's a good thing. Payback for starting the world wars and creating communism.

>>731550661
Physical storage of data is literally dying from age. Should you be compensated for losing what you once owned?

>>731549642
The court fully affirmed that if Ford had made your argument (“I’m focused on long-term growth, keeping costs low and wages high helps me maximize sales maintain customer loyalty and retain and develop talent”) it would have been fine, the issue is he didn’t, he literally said “I’m fine with losing (other people’s) money, this is good for society”. You can’t incorporate as a profit-seeking entity and take investment money on that premise and then become a functional charity while laughing at your investors.

I mean, you can, and it should be allowed, and it’s funny as hell. But shareholder primacy does not mean you have a legal obligation to burn your company’s future for gains this quarter.

>>731547896
It's not gonna go through as is, instead they'll just determine it'd be far too complex to write as an EU regulation due to the ever evolving nature of software and the various edge cases, and since it applies to digital goods sold across national and international borders it'll need a EU-wide regulatory agency to uphold and enforce it anyways so it's gonna become a part of some industry group composed of existing AAA publishers who'll either neuter it to the point of meaninglessness or they'll strictly enforce it to drive out smaller competition.

>>731549642
That's not how he justified his plans, and his real goal was probably to deprive the Dodge Brothers of funds because they had a falling out.
You fell for a meme.

>>731550626
Companies can issue new shares, but yes essentially it’s a second hand market. The thing is executives are routinely paid in stock options so cratering stock price is cratering CEO paychecks.

>>731549718
Making shareholders have no say over how a company is run would literally fix majority of negative side effects of capitalism. Since cost-cutting usually increases short-term profits at the price of long-term sustainability, its almost always beneficial for shareholders to start cannibalizing the company to increase profits (--> stock price) and jump ship once customer trust begins to wane. Having companies lead themselves would let them prioritize long-term sustainability.

Sure there's the "but then shareholders cant invest in potentially floundering companies and turn them around", but seeing how shareholders misuse this power 99% of the time to enshitten and suppress wage growth, I feel it'd be a worthy tradeoff.

>>731548052
>it's not Google's fault, it's those pesky Europeans!

>>731550786
>>731550845
Yeah, I know that's probably not the actual reasoning and it is smoke and mirrors of actual underhanded tactics to fuck over shareholders, but on the same token the consequences of those actions probably was better for the average person in the long run.

>>731547896
>Free
You certainly don't think that.
Let me tell you what you think: You think your team should be in control of the market and only your team.

>>731548870
no he's some kind of eastern euro, probably russian

>>731548408
>implying the JewU is any different

>>731550780
Data degrades at a much lower rate than the companies close their live services. I don't mind things progressively dying with natural degradation. I do mind when companies decide to flip a switch and kill a game I paid for be forever unplayable when they could make it accessible to every paying customer at low or no costs to themselves.

>>731547896
Games are art, the EU is protecting games, fuck you.

>>731547896
There are no freedom without it's consequences and rules. Now before you create gaas online only slop you have to prepare offline patch or not create that turd. It's simple as that. Troony gaming devs lost big time, normal devs won.

>>731550885
The other thing as well is to stop tying CEO bonuses to quarterly valuations, because that encourages golden parachuting a company.

>>731550885
Shareholders are the owners. It doesn’t make sense for them to “not have a say”. They can just fire the CEO if they don’t like what he’s doing. If the shareholders aren’t in charge, who is in charge?

>>731549164
>>731548045
Can you post a screenshot showing his accout is based in india?

>>731548716
And that the companies themselves wouldnt collude or otherwise rig the system

>>731547896
NOOOOOOO WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE EVIL AMERICAN MEGACORPORATIONS??

>>731550878
>The thing is executives are routinely paid in stock options so cratering stock price is cratering CEO paychecks.
Oh I see, so that's the incentive for companies to play the big boy casino on the side. How do newly issued shares actually end up in a stock market?

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>>731547896
>Fuck all of you, enjoy the EU's hand up your ass.
This worked because young people don't know how modern day politics/NGOs/movements work. Whenever a government or politician is on your side, you have to think about how they're fucking you, because governments are made out of people and people are greedy and self interested just like you are, especially true of the psychopaths that get into power. They're not placed there to help you, they're there to control you, because politicians are the control interface the actual powered families and dynasties create so they don't have to see, hear, or come near you plebs.
So when a shitty little thing like this childish feet stomping
>but i wanna wanna wanna play bideo gaymez! I wanna!
gets treated seriously by actual politicians and it gathers million+ signatures, it should be your cue to lay off the fart huffing and stop promoting it, but you didn't. And whatever happens next will be on your tab, and it probably won't be pretty for your video games.

Remember how when before gacha games release, they suddenly gain hundreds of thousands or millions of "registrations"? Yeah? "Million+ people signed the Yes I Wanna Get Raped By Government In Video Games"? Really? Well, now you're gonna get raped by politicians, enjoy! :^)

The best part about this is that after you get raped and learn your lesson, a new crop of fresh fools will have been born and they also will start fart huffing and fuck themselves as well, and you'll be there doing the same thing i'm doing now, pulling your hairs out. It's quite the cycle of self humiliation rituals.

>>731550952
This. Things have gotten worse as the proportion of executive compensation given as stock options has increased.

You wanna fix America in 5 years? Make it so any share acquired from options can only be sold after waiting 5 years.

>>731548317
When should let a private company handle it right shlomo goldberg?

>stuff billions into AI
>muh free market
kek

>>731550961
Thats the thing: generally shareholders dont buy stocks because they want to own a certain company. They buy stocks because they want to make profit. Converting shares from ownership into company valuation instrument ("I'm Apple going public, I release 1,000,000 shares. Each is valued at 1$ and pays [certain share of yearly profits] as dividends every year") wouldnt essentially change anything for the investors, except they'd lose Board voting power to cannibalize said companies. As for who's in charge? At least to my knowledge, companies exist as hierarchies: those at the top would be in charge, just as they are now, except there's no extra layer of shareholder board above to direct them.

>>731548398
Mario can run forever tho.

If you want to see how nasty investing can get, just look up private equity firms and the nonsense of borrowing against debt that ends up being.

>>731551014
Shares issued not outstanding. Basically companies keep a big ass pile of shares of stock not traded on the market which they can sell (as options, for new rounds of funding, whatever). If that reserve gets too low they will buy shares back off the open market, or from board members, or whomever.

>>731548052
This guy is a lying jeetgle engineer trying to shift the blame

>>731548001
The free market is about the choice to just not buy something that can be taken away from you in the first place you retard.

Where is thor?

>>731551162
CEOs are just employees though. They aren’t founders of companies. Like what you’re describing is nonsense, it treats corporations as natural occurrences that just pop into the world. Someone makes them, those people own them. When do they become so big that they stop being accountable to their owners?

A better solution to this problem, incidentally, would be cooperative economics, because a co-ops owners are its employees and customers, not absentee investors whose only goal is money. But co-ops still function via shareholders with partial ownership and voting control over the company.

>>731551239
Cool, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanations.

>>731547896
That doesn't actually mean anything yet. Pretty sure some of the verified CIs had no action taken/token action taken.

Wonder what the publishers will prefer doing in the end:
Having to release dedicated server tools and losing their crowd control over no-trashtalking safebubbles and obsolescence, or having to pay to keep the severs running themselves.

>>731551304
If the only things you can buy that can be taken away from you, you don't really have a choice in the first place.

>>731549741
yandex has a fucking safe search now? why?

>twitter grifter thread

>>731551470
Russia also has online censorship laws, believe it or not.

>>731551048
People who voted for SKG have a concrete problem and a concrete solution for it, people against it like just have some nebulous threat like "they are gonna fuck you over, trust me, muh gubmint muh politishuns"

>>731551470
Because they are so (((based*)))
>https://forward.com/fast-forward/197664/holocaust-deniers-in-russia-now-face-five-years-in
*Based on Talmud

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NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT THE AAA SHAREHOLDERS THEY'RE GOING TO STARVE

>>731548317
and imagine their workforce being fucking dumb DEI niggerbitches and towelhead burka women on the desks. no, seriously.

>>731547896
if this passes and the sovie-i mean european union actually gives a fuck, will metal gear survive finally be playable offline?

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>>731547896
I signed it day one so you can own your games again.

>stop heckin killing games!!!
>also I hope and pray every new release is the next tortanic

Why are /v/Irvin’s like this?

>>731547896
>free market
>lets stop making computer components so they're worth more when we sell them all to data centers who cant use them all
oh no. the poor free market

>>731552114
A game being a commercial failure doesn't mean it should shut down forever, even if it's only retards who paid for it.

>>731547896
>The free market
Fuck all ameriniggers who believe in this bullshit

>>731552205
Why not? That’s how it works in every other industry

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>>731547940
Ameribro, have you ever wondered why every that happens in this country legislatively is pushed from California and in turn, why is why california itself is so gay?. It's because they glaze and worship Europeans and anything the Eu does. California has now become the mouth piece state of the EU, we can't talk about it because of all the culture war bs, but literally every retard legislative regulation California has tried pushing on the rest of US came from California. So now that the EU is now considering actively mettling in what game companies do for the sake of "consumer rights", guess was gonna be pushed on us Americans now to accept, especially since the US game industry is concentrated in California and they all but outscouced all of it the Eu and Canada? This is why everyone in the US hates California. And why it was mainly Americans who were were warning Eufags about the bullshit they are unleashing into the world.

>>731551867
>only kikes died in ww2
Fucking retard

>>731548962
No, they were literally copypasting from the first example on stackoverflow, down to the date on the posts, until shit somehow works a single step further, without regard, consideration, or knowledge of what it took to take that step

>>731552304
Which other industries are you talking about exactly?

>>731552321
>americans will fight tooth and nail AGAINST having consumer rights

>>731551415
If the only things you can buy can be taken away from you then that means they were more succesful, which means most people think it's no big deal. It's just natural selection

>>731552094
based and same

>>731552147
Why should a company be forced to make computer components for you, commie boy?

>>731551415
Anon, just don't buy things that can be taken away from you, it's that simple.
It's why they're currently failing across the board and are done so rarely nowadays.

If you're choosing to buy it despite the red flags and warnings from both the companies and other people then that's on you, you used the capacity for choice to choose something you didn't want in the first place. Why? No one knows.

>>731552436
It's not natural selection if it operates under modern day capitalism.

>>731552519
Modern day capitalism being about selling what works.

>>731548052
I don't care.

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>>731552425
>Europeans after experiencing Communism and Bolsheviks numerous fucking thimes in their continent, STILL don't understand the very first move commies make when they grab for oppressive power over everyone

>>731547896
american corporate shills are so sad

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How brainwashed do you have to be to believe the EU is bad?
Honestly asking because everytime i see people saying its bad its just a baseless opinioon parroting Right-Wing grifters or Russian bots?

>>731552583
>anything I don't like is communism
You're mentaly ill

>>731550531
I cant even find one of my indie songstresses on youtube fucking search even if I outright search her full handle name or/and the title of any of her songs/covers because she doesnt have 100k followers
It will, however, show me random 30 view videos of nigresses with a slightly similar name, random ass brainrot shorts and completely unrelated videos with 5m+ views
Good fucking shit jewtube, im sure deleting handmade subs to force AI subs is what you should be focusing on now

>>731552425
I find it funny how this argument literally mirrors the whole trans rights thing.
Like as consumers what rights don't you have? You can't even say the right to not have your shit taken from you because no one can take your shit from you,cin the case of a game with DRM you bought a game that could be turned off and went into it knowing that so you can't claim the company was being dishonest if it was all upfront.

>>731547896
hah free market you retards only pretend to care when it benefits your political views, get fucked all of you drag each other into shit

>>731552625
>How brainwashed do you have to be to believe the EU is bad?
Anon, you're literally in a thread where mainland Europeans are fine with altering their rights for the worse for a sense of safety.

>>731549195
the US manages to validate 150M votes in like, 3 days

>>731552515
In case you haven't noticed, the market is shifting more and more toward live service. The problem isn't how much it sell but how the industry gambles on potential profits.
See the numerous cancelled or closed live service games. Did it stop studios from trying to make more live service game? No. They are still gambling on it until they get their golden goose.
I'd rather put some restrictions on it now than wait 10-20 years to end up in a worse situaton.

>>731547896
idk about you guys, but i haven't even thought before about how fucked mobile slop and gachas might be if this goes through.
nice.

Grifter thread.

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Why is it that some people can't see the difference between giving the government additional powers and forcing the government to use its power for your benefit?
This isn't going to be resolved with some elaborate censorship, companies will just have to release server tools
Why exactly would a bill that forces companies to hand over a small usb stick of data after they are done using it be the first part of some totalitarian regime?
You do know you have to do something to prevent market entities from misbehaving right?
You do know the people in power own large corporations right?

>>731552735
>no one can take your shit from you except in the case where they can
All I'd ask for is dedicated servers + disabling the always online shit at the end of the game's lifetime

>>731552828
You say that as if every vote is some national election with hundred of thousands of volunteers helping with counting.

>>731547896
the free market created the hell world we live on today

>>731547896
Just what we need, even more government overreach and regulations...
Why do Europoors like being cucked so much?

>thread about gaming "happening"
>thread devolves into politics
go back to >>>pol

>>731552834
>the market is shifting more and more toward live service
Yeah, all of those live service games failing to take off and companies abandoning the idea because it doesn't work when there are too many sure does show that the industry is shifting towards a failing model.
>but how the industry gambles on potential profits.
Anon, you're talking about an industry that's absolutely afraid of any potential losses and failures. Risks are done very, very rarely. You clearly don't pay much attention to the industry you supposedly care about.
>Did it stop studios from trying to make more live service game? No.
Yes, yes it did. There were far more five years ago than there are now and they're decreasing every year.
>I'd rather put some restrictions on it now than wait 10-20 years to end up in a worse situaton.
Anon, if restrictions are placed on it you're going to get a significantly worse situation as companies continue to do what they do and work around the poorly thought out regulation.

>>731552927
Technofeudalists think they're going to be part of the new nobility instead of serfs like everyone else.

>>731548213
Yandex has been completely broken for me since last year.
Can't do reverse search, can't filter images by size, it just straight up doesn't load the page, just gets stuck loading forever.

Americans get raped by airlines on a daily basis while eurochads get full money back on delays, hotels, taxis and food paid

>>731547896
Nigga still made mad that Walmart crashed and burned when they tried to expand to germany.

>>731550938
Don't like it, don't buy it then. Why do you retards have so little self control?

>>731553125
You were not supposed to ask that.

Imagine thinking Brussels will talk about fucking video games when they have to deal with Trump's schizophrenic breakdowns every day.

>>731553125
Orrr I could attempt legislate so this isn't a problem anymore
Why are you defending the gigacorps like this?

>>731553083
euroniggers get raped by muhammed and tyrone though
i'd rather have zero "consumer rights" and zero niggers than have "consumer rights" and niggers
>>731553027
because euroniggers are spiritually brown

>>731553061
You lost.

>>731553207
because corporations are based and aryan, and you're a pajeet typing this from your shit-caked phone while squatting on a train track

>>731553213
you would also rather get executed for being white

>>731553207
>Why are you defending the gigacorps like this?
I'm not defending gigacorps, I'm literally telling you not to buy those shitty fucking games.
Regulations never help the consumer or small businesses like indies since they don't actually have the resources to comply with the initiative.

>>731553216
t. bucket crab

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>>731547896
Thank fuck.
Let\s hope this actually leads to legislation.

>>731553256
>but muh alex penisretti o algo
i just gooned to him being shot, cope harder ranjesh

Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a ball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.
You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?

>>731553271
Indies aren't making always online GaaS cancerware
>don't buy those games
I don't, but I could if they were properly legislated

>non-american entity does a good thing.
Why is this a problem?

>>731552927
>companies will just have to release server tools
Why do you believe that that's what's gonna happen, If and when this comes to fruition? Common Sense? Fuck no, think about it it like this. We in the US, want more jobs in the country, right? Well that just means the outsourcing and the immigration just has to stop, yeah? We have been asking and explaining numerous times why it needs to happen over the years and it still hasn't happened? And you think the EU any different from the fucks over here? Fuck no. They won't make companies just release private servers tools, they'll instead make up some convoluted legislation that will only make game companies have to resort to even scummier bullshit if they want to play ball. It won't be the step away from Live service games like everyone hopes, it will only create even more of them.

>>731553292
based
your next

>>731553337
More government overreach and regulations is never a good thing.

>>731553320
I own my own backyard where we play, and I own the ball we play with, funny how that works huh?

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>>731552927
>Why is it that some people can't see the difference between giving the government additional powers and forcing the government to use its power for your benefit?
Simple, in both situations you're taking power away from the masses to people you can't control resulting in the same outcome.
>companies will just have to release server tools
Not true, for starters, no government is insane enough to alter ownership rights like that.
Second, under what was asked for companies could just add "expiration dates" to games and because nothing was specified on that they can just continue to tuck that away in the EULA which of course no one reads which led to this situation in the first place.
>Why exactly would a bill that forces companies to hand over a small usb stick of data after they are done using it be the first part of some totalitarian regime?
Because the laws that affect companies affect EVERYONE. And you can't specify what a company is or how big a company has to be because then you'll have instances where large companies just make shell companies to continue doing what they're doing solving nothing.
>You do know you have to do something to prevent market entities from misbehaving right?
Do you know how you do that?
Not buying.
It's worked far better in the past than actual legislation has but the problem is that the younger generation is woefully incapable of refusing them for some reason, you just have to blindly spend because you were told to blindly spend because you have problems with FOMO.
>You do know the people in power own large corporations right?
Yeah, the same people who are telling you to give your rights away for their benefit and you're doing so happily because you're too stupid to take five seconds to even think if what you're getting is actually better than what you have.

>>731553337
because muslims shouldn't be in control of anything
they should be violently oppressed and raped 24/7, 365 days a year

the SKG bandwagon crowd is in for an extremely rude awakening if any actual legislation is passed as a result of their autism, indie devs just won't release anything in the EU anymore, it would be a net loss, AAA publishers most likely will release neutered versions of games that have no online functionality and can exist as a tidy single player experience forever so they won't have to worry about anything

>>731553361
Yes it is, government, especially in places where politics is not profitable, is a nessicary counter force against endless greed of corporations, the only counter force we have in fact.

>>731553396
SKGiggers should have their devices flooded by CP, any sane country should have done this

You just know that shitass Orban is going to shoot it down just to glaze Trump some more.

>>731553339
I am european
We usually have laws that do things
You realise that there's poison in your food that we've removed from ours right? And that it's the reason you age faster and die about 10 years younger?
When we moved to remove it they didn't invent double poison

Indians love SKG because they'll be the first to be hired to maintain all those games that the devs wanted to abandon. Careful what you guys wish for

>>731553361
I, too, frickin' love monopolies

>>731553426
an even bigger counter force would be
>doing nothing
you will win, look at china, they do nothing and are winning
>do nothing
>and you win

>>731552828
Not validate, count. You don't sign your ballot.
And the elections have more resources than an independent petition.

just
dont
buy
the
game
if
you
dont
like
their
practices

no need to legislate a luxury good you fucking morons
Just learn some fucking self-control and vote with your fucking wallet.

>>731553056
No, clearly you are the one not paying attention to the industry. Every game from big studios are integrating live service stuff more and more. Almost every game that are topping the chart in sales or player count every year in the past decade has been a live service game.
And as I said, every big studio is gambling on a live service hit despite the repeated failures.

very good
fuck the ((((AAA)))) kikery

>>731553485
>you will win, look at china, they do nothing and are winning
Yeah I'm sure anyone who isn't a high ranking CCP member agrees.

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>>731547896
Pajeets, Paid Shills, Marketeers and Slop Developers on SUICIDE WATCH

>>731553485
That is the most retarded analogy I have ever seen, China is a totalitarian government, they are not "winning" they are suffering greatly.
Their unelected leaders are winning, that is not the same thing.

>>731553508
My wallet is being outvoted to the point more and more devs are adopting shitty consumer practices.

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>>731553546
>trannybabble

>>731553485
>china
>doing nothing
Retard.

>>731549269
It makes sense for such tools yo discriminate against women, as "female" and things strongly correlated with it will be far less common in the training data set.

>>731547896
Wait, 200k votes were from "bots"?

>>731552785
>altering their rights
I'm not a multinational corporation

>>731547976
The EU can't do anything without Germany and France's approval. It causes a huge bottleneck.

>>731553508
When a luxury good of type A ends up changing all others under the same category, you as a B enjoyer end up losing B since A is better profit-wise. Slowly all you get is A, despite never passing any money to the type.

>>731553592
I accept your concession.

>>731553619
Paid opposition which is in this very thread arguing against you.

>>731551304
That is not possible since there is no equivalent replacement. The government grants the seller special priviledges in the form of copyright laws, they should come with restrictions on abusing them

>>731553582
>>731553595
consider this >>731553592
>>731553619
1+ million actually, too bad eurabians will still pass it because their pedo false prophet muhammed will rape them if they don't

>>731553619
It's one of the lowest rates of invalidated signatures across the successful initiatives actually.

>Muh freedum muh markets muh principles
>I should never take advantage of things that lets me get leverage.
>getting fucked in the ass is the way to go because good and honest shekelstein said so.

Good golems.

>>731547896
>stealing from your customers is "the free market"
nope
nothing about corporations are free market, and consumer protections are one of the only legitimate functions of government

>>731553379
>Simple, in both situations you're taking power away from the masses to people you can't control resulting in the same outcome
No, you are taking away power from sellers in certain marketplaces and giving to courts
They had the power to do this without signitures, So signing isn't giving them power, it's directing their actions at best and doing nothing at worst
>Not true, for starters, no government is insane enough to alter ownership rights like that
Right to repair, etc etc
>Second, under what was asked for companies could just add "expiration dates" to games
Yes and then people can prepare for those
And their competitors can plan their releases around them
>Because the laws that affect companies affect EVERYONE
The statues on the quality and sale of milk haven't affected me outside of me buying slightly nicer milk
>Do you know how you do that?
>Not buying.
Lol
Lmao even
>Yeah, the same people who are telling you to give your rights away for their benefit
My rights to sell digital services with products and then remove said services without notice?
Copyright law as a whole is already an shit, what you are advocating is that it should apply to products already bought

>>731553509
>Almost every game that are topping the chart in sales or player count every year in the past decade has been a live service game.
In other words you haven't actually been paying any kind of attention to the industry and just get your information from 4chan or just look at the steam charts and see CSGO or these extremely old F2P games. The only platform that has live service games anywhere near the top is PlayStation and everyone knows their user base is made up of a bunch of cultists and they're declining every year anyway so if companies want to bank on that they're free to piss their money away before they fail.
Great.
So we've established you aren't actually qualified you have this conversation.

>>731553710
>saar western countries needing to redeem the communism because dey just do ya kuch aur
>>731553734
>free market is when the state owns everything and companies don't exist you heckin' chud
muslim "logic"

>>731553674
>That is not possible since there is no equivalent replacement
Then don't buy it, period. You don't have to buy something you don't like.
>The government grants the seller special priviledges in the form of copyright laws
Excuse me? That's not a special privilege to a seller that's a right everyone has.

>>731553807
quality strawman

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>>731553662
>Paid opposition which is in this very thread arguing against you

I am often skeptical against claims like that, but the random insulting non-sequitur replies to every pro-consumer comment in this thread makes it very hard not to see it.
If it was actual real honest people who just disagreed, they'd argue the point, but that is not happening here, or at least not much.

Donald Trump will kill this movement dead.
The EU shouldn't be messing with American companies if they don't want tariffs to increase.

>>731547896
Reminder that people actually made their own Concord servers

>>731552425
It is my duty as a true american patriot to let the corpos step on me. It is what the founding daddy-o's intended.

>>731553884
I want tariffs to increase
I explicitly endorse that

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>>731553872
Don't be surprised when in upcoming days 4chan mods will start early saging, deleting or moving these threads to other boards to silence the cause.
Remember 4chan or 4chan mods are not your friends.

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What the FUCK is his problem???

>>731552583
>commies
What is this, the 1960s?

>>731553887
Which is really marvelous since Concord's failure is a huge piece of history that needs to be preserved.
Its a shame that people had to cobble shit together themselves instead of just letting the game have a offline mode.

Shit, if they did that then Sony wouldn't have had to reimburse the sales either, everybody wins.

>someone has fair, light criticism about Stop Killing Games
>"Nooo you don't understand the proposal, it's not X, it's Y"
>another person criticizes Y
>"Sigh... People still don't understand the proposal is not about Y, but actually about X?"

I'm fucking done with this stupid subject. It is impossible to say anything negative about it because Stop Killing Games is like the holy spirit: it's nowhere, and at the same time everywhere. It's about nothing, and at the same time everything. No matter what you criticize, it'll always be "wrong" because it is actually about whatever point you did not criticize; and this point will oportunistically change once the next person says they disagree.

Fuck everyone involved with this. Bunch of dishonest vulture clowns

>>731552828
>validate
Do you even need to identify yourself to vote in das burgerreich

>>731554003
*dabs*

All this for what? force devs to waste time and money creating offline modes for abject autists who can't say farewell to their shitty shovelware game? your game is dying, devs start losing money. move the fuck on.

>>731553963
If the word Nigger persists to this day, you should have no problem with the term, Commie.

Remember folks, if buying isn’t owning, pirating isn’t stealing.
Sail them seas~

>>731548052
Yea sure bro, I bets it's also the EUs fault that windows 11 is vibe coded slop

>>731554003
>fair, light criticism about Stop Killing Games
Present it then.
>dishonest vulture clowns
Name an instance of dishonesty then.

You are being very vague for someone who has "legitimate" concerns anon, its almost like you have nothing of substance to say..

No. Satisfy me or lose further money.

>>731554050
he's indian, pajeets transheart communism

Ironically SKG is going to hurt small developers much more than large ones. It also begs the question of where console games and games where the distribution channels can be interrupted fall into this.

>>731548052
That's not true, you faggot

>>731548060
Bootlicking is an anglo thing. However america is the rebel in the family, in the way that they prefer corporate boot over government boot (like the brits).

>>731553769
Nah, you retarded nigger. Every most sold or played game each year in the last decade has been a CoD and/or fortnite, roblox, minecraft or gta online, with a few exceptions, which, guess what, are all live services. Trying to shift to "it's just x platform" is fucking retarded.

>>731553743
>you are taking away power from sellers in certain marketplaces and giving to courts
Now change seller to consumer and now you have a accurate statement.
>Right to repair, etc etc
Has nothing to do with this conversation because it has nothing to do with ownership, good job.
>Yes and then people can prepare for those
You didn't prepare for it now even though the eula already said these games could be shut down. Are you suddenly going to start reading the eula because they put and actual date in it now?
>The statues on the quality and sale of milk haven't affected me outside of me buying slightly nicer milk
You are aware that's a good product and not an entertainment product, right? Also what you call "slightly nicer milk" is actually milk that won't kill you. The worst thing an entertainment product can do is bore you.
>Lmao even
I don't understand why you think your only option is to buy over and over as if constantly rewarding them will benefit you in the end.
>My rights to sell digital services with products and then remove said services without notice?
Your right as a consumer and your right of ownership. Companies don't use any special laws, they use the same ones we have. Anything that affects them affects us too.
>Copyright law as a whole is already an shit
If you believe that you have no idea how it even works and just want to leech off of existing ideas

The gaming industry just laid off tens of thousands of jobs last year, it's not in a good state at the moment. This movement is just another kick in the teeth while they're already down.
These demands are absolutely unrealistic and are impossible especially for indies to implement.

>>731554047
Its easier to create local instances of games than it is to spin up individual instances of each game on company servers.
You know this, I know this, we all know this, stop pretending otherwise.

Greed is not an excuse.

Name a killed game.

If I can play it in any capacity, or set up my own client servers, or emulate it, it's not dead.

>>731554164
Concord

>>731548052
EU mandates salted my crops and poisoned my water supply.

Burgers are buck broken by their jewish masters. SKG reminds them of this and they can't handle it.

>>731548876
I'm pretty sure the UK is just the testing ground for the EU. If the britbongs can achieve their beloved 1984 with Ai characteristics, it's gonna spread

>just give us your server binary
>it doesn't werk
>okay, just give us your source code
>it also doesn't werk because 3rd party code is missing
>wtf
>just break copyright regarding the 3rd party code
>the commie EU demands it
Do you see how fucking retarded SKG is? You fags haven't thought this through for a single minute.

>>731554181
Based EU, killing shitposters.

>>731553942
>Well except he wants to kill all live service games
Am I supposed to not agree with that?

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>>731548620
Unironically, this faggot saved SKG by mocking it's failure

>>731554191
Keep bootlicking the government.
More laws! more rules! cuck me more pleeeease!

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>>731554164
HEX: Shards of Fate.

One of my favorite card games, they took down the servers and it is not playable in any state.

>>731548649
Free market = the biggest actors reaches the top and pulls up the ladder by lobbying politicians for regulation

>>731554145
>This movement is just another kick in the teeth while they're already down.
Studios over hired due to their own hubris. You can't just give someone a break because they decided to shoot themselves in the foot earlier.

>>731554239
Piratesoftware is right and SKG will fail.

>>731553569
yeah because Ubisoft is doing so well! and Concord? heh, the Rivals killer!

>>731547935
based

>>731553942
>wants to kill all live games
The basedest

>>731554209
Offline mode, is all that is being asked, the bare minimum, the standard for videogames in the last 40 years.
If you are going to argue, at least argue shit that is real instead of making up shit.

>>731554316
Don't like differing opinions? truth social is right there!

>>731554138
>I don't understand why you think your only option is to buy over and over
I haven't bought in the first place
Infact, none of this even effects me
I don't play live service games

Anyway the way you misunderstand intentionally gets terribley boring, so I will be leaving now
Good luck watching while we act

>>731554251
The american government just made a ton of regulations so food companies stop poisoning american customers, retard

>>731548398
This, the commission is full of 50+ boomers who either have no idea games have evolved past pong or they play them but hide because cringe.

>>731553213
Americans are physically brown

>>731554352
Good, get out faggot commie

>>731554358
Laws that were passed in the EU 30 years ago.
One day you guys might catch up.

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>>731554209
Remember when EA said the same thing about Simcity 2013 not being playable offline and whatnot and the game getting an offline mod a few weeks later?
I 'member.

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USB-C on an iphone was impossible too
Halo on PS5? Never in a million years.
Gaming on linux? Just two more weeks bros.

Complying with SKG? More likely than you think.

>>731553361
Government overreach forced an airline to reimburse me

>>731553942
nobody called "chet" has every been worth listening to

>everything moving towards subscription
>download the app to use but it doesnt work on new phone OS oops
>also the new app only supports new hardware too
>company ran server required but can also be dropped at any time
>cant vote with your wallet because your are up against infinite speculate finance
Things are only going to get worse.

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Game journalists are turning this into another Gamergate. Look how they're making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the movement and warning people about Pirate Software's harassment campaign.
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movement’s values. “Preservation without protection is meaningless,” said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova. “We need to preserve games and the people who make them.”
>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to remain inclusive and principled will determine whether it becomes a force for good or another flashpoint in gaming’s long-running culture wars.
These fuckers are really playing dirty now.

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>>731554403
The same EUtards who post things like this also fall for the fake vs real cheese meme.

>>731553508
>just vote with your wallet
>he says in a hobby where a single whale can outvote several non-whales
Retard.

>>731554181
Do you live in Carthage

>>731548052
Nah that was shitterstock or some other cancer stock moloch, it was too easy to get the full resolution images. Just use yandex

>>731554449
Pretty sure this guy has unironically gone crazy.

>>731548052
Bullshit. It was over copyright and "muh raceeesm".
First happened because people didn't go into the sites to get content but could just open it directly avoiding ads and user metrics.
Second was because when you searched white family you actually got a white family and not black on white or blacks, and when you searched gorilla you got blacks.

>>731554415
We all remember, these cunts are intentionally misinterpreting everything so that they can continue to argue in bad faith with the hopes that someone unfamiliar with the topic might get the wrong impression and get a bad view of the cause.

Its this whole thread, a bunch of, what I assume must be indian bottom-of-barrel hires, just flooding discourse with random bullshit in hopes of discouraging people.

>>731554424
Airline ticket prices are also a lot more expensive in Europe compared to ours here in America.
Wow, you spent 2x more than me to fly the same distance, but at least you get a refund for 0.1% of your flights! Get fucked lol

>>731554003
What is X and Y in this situation?

>>731554417
>Halo on PS5? Never in a million years.
That was Divine karma punishing Microsoft for pushing the whole "No more exclusives" bullshit that's now ruined consoles and turned the PC gaming market into abhorrent monstrosity it is now.

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>>731553465
saar, your federally funded Google?
er, Alphabet actually. woops!
>>731554485
yeah look at all these whales who saved Ubisoft!

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I still don't even know what this is about
isn't not killing games good?

>>731554180
>>731554265
'kay, two dogshit trashheaps that never should've existed in the first place so far. Keep 'em coming, I want to see something.

>>731554358
Good job on catching up little by little!

>>731554485
People are free to spend their money however they like. Fuck you commie

>>731554536
No offense but you're an election tourist too young to even know what Google was like when it was good. Please stay quiet while adults are speaking next time.

>>731552670
The non derogative term is american chud

>>731552735
>Like as consumers what rights don't you have?
Look at the recent example with endfield release and PayPal issues you retarded nigger mutt
They literally put in their eula that you have no right fo start a class action lawsuit against them and it's binding in America while in Europe hypertrophy would be fined for even attempting to put this shit in their rules

>>731554572
Most games deserve to die.

>>731554542
>gets sick and applies for personal bankruptcy

>>731554542
No its not, I have flown to London multiple times on airline tickets that were cheaper than the train ticket I had to buy afterwards to get into the city.
You are just straight up making shit up.

>>731554485
If a whale has more spending power than you that's because he earned it through merit and his decisions should matter more than yours. The system works.

>>731554610
You're lucky paypal even serves you ungrateful fucks. They're still the best payment processor hands down.

>>731554572
Yes but the EU is involved and therefore it is bad

>>731554573
You install wheels on them goalposts or what?

>>731554573
The quality of the games ultimately don't matter. People still paid for them and you don't get to be the one who decides when they should stop playing with it, and neither should studios.

>>731554024
that would be raycis

>>731554209
just build the game to work with an offline mode or lan from the start
>but thats lost technology
then suffer

>>731554629
Enjoy your higher taxes, free healthcare isn't actually free, that money has to come from somewhere.
America is far superior when it comes to wait times. While you will die from cancer before you get looked at in Europoor.

>>731553256
>euromutts think Italian jews are white
sad!

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This thread's a saltmine

>>731554734
Full of europoor tears.

>>731554316
He should unironically do a "internet bill of rights", and any country that doesn't play ball, have tariffs up their asses untill they accept freedom

>>731554591
>game devs will inevitably start pandering to whales while ignoring non-whales, negating non-whales' "wallet votes", because all they want is money
>if you point this out, you're a commie

>>731554654
Paypal is complete trash, but maybe they're ok by american standards

I don't play live service shit
>nooooo gachaoids might actually own what they pay for? what about the industry parasiting off of retards?! you can't assert ownership rights how are we going to rugpull you then?!
Hope it becomes an unviable business.