>ask gamedev if he used AI because it's a clearly visible on cover art and music is generic SUNO-slop>dev instantly acts offended and defensive and responds to you with a gigantic post of mental gymnasticsfucking AI-slop game devs i swear...
dont let this guy know about daft punk or gorillaz
this thread is AI-generated
>>731606709our whole lives might be AI generated
>>731606709good morning saaar
>>731606478>do you really think it makes sense to make an original track FOR SUCH SMALL PROJECTwhat a fucking retardwhat do you mean small projects?he still sells that game for $6.what an idiot
Maybe because anti-AI fags are acting as if they are internet Gestapo and want any kind of project that uses AI to die?And don't get me wrong, if you use AI you should disclose it. But if you are a 1 man team, it's stupid to have your project die because people don't like that you used AI for the parts that you are not good with.If the product is good, it doesn't matter how it was done. And if you have a dogshit vision, AI will reflect this harder.
>>731606990>AI fags are acting as if they are internet GestapoWe unironicly are
>>731606478paragraph of cope from an AI copetard.
>>731606990So why are AI fags not supporting AI content creators?
>>731606478>do you really think it makes sense to make a real soundtrack for such small projects?Dude, just use stock Creative Commons music, there are plenty of them, or recordings from Musopen.
>>731607325or just buy a pack from Humble Bundle. I got a ton of music for like 15 bucks
>>731607325he also selling his game for moneySame logic can be used against him "do you really think you should ask money for your shitty small project"?now the project is not only small but also using AI
>>731606478
>>731606990>anti-AI fags = gestapoBased. Now I hate AI even more.
>>731606478This fucking game? https://youtube.com/watch?v=1IRWsRfICQU Why the fuck would this retard use such obvious AI? Why include vocals at all?
>>731606709This is the new "you're a fed!" slur for 4chan. What started in /pol/ as a derailment tactic when paid shills didn't want regular people talking about stuff that bristled too closely to the truths of their masters, accusing everything of being AI is the same.
>>731606478kek, how it writhes and flails when it is found out.
This reminds me of a 3D artist I really liked, he used to use actual music in his videos but then he started using "self-made" AI garbage with "lewd" lyrics and it made his videos fucking unwatchable. He seems to have stopped with that shit for his last couple of videos, so hopefully he doesn't fucking do it again.
>>731608502nope the one with planes (planes is also Ai art + ai music)he (just like all AI-cucks)wants to make a quick buck by making shitty small games for that onionboys platform
>>731606768fun read herehttps://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/2009393479886004403
>>731606478Dev responded in the dumbest way possible. In fact, you should barely be communicating with your audience in general considering that most of them are going to be dumber than the shit you scrape off your boot.>>731607948The problem is that people do care. You have people living in the foothills of the bell curve that blindly support it like it's going to solve all of humanity's problems when it can't even summarize articles without completely lying to you, or people who despise it because of some poorly defined but vaguely leftist ideology. The lowest levels of discourse dominate the entire conversation too, because the majority of discussion occurs between shills, grifters, and lumpenproles who aren't capable of articulating an intelligent or nuanced take.
>>731608776Either way he's an absolute retard. He could have generated some midi sequences and no one would ever be able to tell he used AI for the music.
>>731609081Can AI do decent midi? I haven't touched AI music stuff because everything I've heard on youtube is pure garbage but if it perfectly regurgitates midi tracks I could have fun with that
>>731609257AI music can do instrumentals just fine unless you REALLY have an ear for that shit, but anybody can pick out shoddy AI vocals.
>>731607253AIfags don't like or play games, they're only interested in jerking off to AIslop porn.
>>731609012>blindly support it like it's going to solve all of humanity's problemsit's really easy to do this when you see a proper implementation of it at your job and get to reap the reward. The opposite must occur if you don't get to reap shit, and actually lose your job. It's only like the first couple of years of proper implementation, so once some serious infrastructure is built around this, the discussion will get way worse.
>>731609305I love AI and play video games
>>731609257>>731609292I mean generate the midi sequence itself and then use a midi player. That way it's impossible to get any of the weird timbre artifacts you get from raw AI music.
>>731609330>>731609012>we have problems like "why do I have to do this? someone or something should do it for me">AI has provably been shown that it can be trained to execute the actions solving such problems>for some reason people can't grasp what this meansThe only reason AI hasn't replaced billions of jobs already is because there is only a small handful of people on the planet smart enough to train good models to do such things. And they're all working on training the "big" model that will solve THEIR problems which are basically how to quickly train good models for everything. Ergo AI WILL solve all of our problems, it's just a matter of time. There's no logical argument against this, the best people come up with is "technology wills top progressing in 2 weeks" only to be wrong again for the 4539459345949th time.
>>731609330I think the only place AI has actually made huge advancements in is the medical field, which to be fair AI has actually revolutionized and is probably the only practical use case for it. The other issue at hand is that this is a massive bubble and it's going to burst spectacularly because of the hideous amounts of overinvestment. Once the bubble pops you'll probably see a restructuring and focus on small-scale AI implementations where it will get more ubiquitous. I have nothing against AI-generated stuff in a vacuum, but the problem is that people will just lazily generate something and then... just leave it as colorless garbage dumped onto a plate instead of using it as a baseline and going from there. OP gamedev probably did put a good amount of effort into refining it, but at the end of the day if it sounds like AI slop it's still AI slop.>>731609523Just two more weeks fellas, two more weeks until all of that money we shoveled into this shit will work, please dear god use Copilot we're begging you!
>>731609292I did randomly come across some boomer who did a everquest stream on YT and he used a ton of AI 8 bit EQ cover tracks but they sounded really really bad
>>731606709Your life is AI-generated.
>>731606990If all you are is an "ideas guy" that shoved everything you'd want into a video game into an AI prompt and then tried to sell the result for profit, your "project" deserves to die.
>>731609012The dev could have responded better, but I can't fault them for wanting to call out this bullshit in the first place. As you mention, it seems that people are making AI into a culture war issue and people going >DOES GAEM HAV AI? AI BAD XITTER ARTEEST PATREON SAY SO! irrationally rejecting a title simply for the tools used to make it. Oldfags may remember how "CGI" got a similar response on a much smaller scale (because of a lack of social media) back in the 90s and early 2000s, but people eventually got over it and now the same people who are screeching about AI are using digital art tools that were seen as similarly "cheap, invalidating the artistic value etc" opinions by vacuous people back in the day. People should be focusing on the outcome, not screeching about the tools involved but its worse because they don't even do that with far, far more concerning elements like monetization. This dev didn't do a great job of it, but push back on this behavior that somehow AI use has to be declared so they can claim its evil and the product involved is tainted - something that doesn't happen with gacha or other predatory monetization, nor even paid or default asset etc..and many other things that are either of greater effect or are more likely to suggest a game is 'cheap' etc - needs to continue, especially so we can get to the real discussion about AI and those megacorps who are using proprietary software as a service API , censoring, and jacking up the price when they get enough onboard for instance.
>>731607325>>731607396>>731607767What, in your mind, makes that better than using AI?
>>731608573Nah it's just typical /v/ latching onto one term to throw at everything they don't like>viral>tranny>shill>jeet>slop>aiSame shit, different term. Don't expect it to change anything.
>>731606478>hey does your game use AI->no>b-b-but it looks lik->no>and it s-s-sounds lik->noWhat now AI-tards?
>>731609012>people who despise it because it can't even summarize articles without completely lying to youFixed that for you
>>731606478Why dont devs just not interact with players?
>>731609559The world is bigger than the corporations that live rent free in your head, retard. It's funny because you clearly understand this somewhat since you mentioned medicine yet your head is so thick the "investments" and beta services have somehow mindfucked you into thinking nothing is going to change despite things constantly changing.
>>731609330>once some serious infrastructure is built around this"I...thank you..."
>>731609867Nothing. Like with anything else in life if you can fool everyone then you automatically win.
>>731609867>HEY EVERYONE THIS GUY'S GAME USES AI!ez gg no re
>>731609784>People should be focusing on the outcomeYou are correct, and this is primarily what I concern myself with. The utilization of AI *can* be a somewhat useful heuristic for determining whether or not something is a worthwhile product, but in and of itself isn't a valuable metric. For instance, if a post here is accompanied by AI slop there's a 99% chance this poster is some form of retarded and the post isn't worth reading, but that's contingent upon you being able to determine with some confidence that the image is AI generated, so obviously if it's fairly convincing it sidesteps the issue altogether.>>731609973T-two more weeks. Any minute now you'll see return on investment saar.
Why AI sloppers take themselves so seriously?Why can't they just admit it's slop and enjoy the process...t. just closed a tab with a meme song made by AI
>>731609973>The world is bigger than the corporationsThe ADL will hear about this.>>731610148Why do shartists have to take aifags seriously?
>>731610148The problem is you. There's no difference whether you use AI or something else, that person made the thing.
>>731609867meanwhile reality is more like:>artist makes a game>"hey, i think your art assets are AI generated">"nope, here's the source files showing the layers and composition. check out my portfolio too!">hack fraud makes a game>"hey, i think your art assets are AI generated">*incoherent victim complex word diarrhea*
>>731610460Brainrot shit is so stupid but fun, sloppers should embrace this shit instead of trying to pass as someone who puts in effort.
>>731610148My AI gens are art.
>>731608502>Cowboy game>Emo-rock song???
>>731610460>"hey, i think your art assets are AI generated"Why would you even do this. Why do you care. If you think some literally who's game is AI, then just don't play it. What possesses people like (You) to turn non-issues into social justice struggles in order to defeat invisible enemies?
>>731610624So are my bowl movements.
>>731610707What's wrong with having sense of justice?Are you Jewish?
>>731610707They're SJWs fighting some fake culture war.. The same people are stalking and harassing people in real life if they think they're ICE or if they're schizo and/or lonely+pathetic.>>731610748>justiceHere's one now, holy shit.
>>731606478>But! Are you an AI hater?Why do sloppers have such a persecution complex?
>>731610748You're placing your warped view of justice on a VIDEO GAME. Pick your battles more wisely and you might actually accomplish something with your worthless life
>>731610707>Why would you even do this. Why do you care.nigger you selling me shitty ai-slop and supposed that i will EAT it and pay my money?fuck offlike if this world wasnt already fake and lameburn every AI-fag
>>731606990>want any kind of project that uses AI to die?basedpeople who dont put in the effort to create dont deserve to earn the rewards of the creative process
>>731610707consumers have every right to question products being sold
>use a game engine>game engine displayed before start of game>use a publisher>publisher displayed before start of game>use AI>NOOOO FUCK YOU I DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE SHIT! YOU'RE A RETARD AND WHETHER I USE AI OR NOT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! KILL YOURSELF! YOU'RE BANNED FROM THE GAME DISCUSSION FORUMS!huh?
>>731610845>>731610798these are the same retards that were kvetching about digital art decades ago
>>731610790Videogames are sold for real money.You sound like you're mad that you don't get to both scam people AND have respect (??)Why would a scammer want respect?
>>731606478You can't even make it through your post without using the word slop twice. Maybe devs making use of new tech are tired of dealing with ignorant retards like you. For shitting on AI all you losers do is mindlessly parrot a single word like the automation you claim to hate.
>>731606990>Maybe because anti-AI fags are acting as if they are internet Gestapoholy based
>>731610920>Why would a scammer want respect?it's called izzat saar
>>731610707>Why would you even do this.I think using AI for art is cancer and if you use AI for art in your product not only I will not give you any money but I will go out of my way to talk shit about you and your game whenever I have the opportunity.
>>731610798>selling me>meYou are an absolute narcissist.
>>731611068I think that's mental illness
>>731611068>I will go out of my way to talk shit about you and your game whenever I have the opportunity.You're not special. We do that every day here. The problem is when some turbo autist confronts the game dev on social media or in a private chat. What's even the point. Just fucking complain on 4chan like the rest of us goddamn
>>731606709The vast majority of posts on 4chan are now AI bots flooding the site with time/energy wasting garbage>One goal of such tactics is to make the boards less interesting for their users
>>731610709Nothing an ESL does is art
>>731606990>anti-AI fags are acting as if they are internet GestapoI do be like that
AI fags can not stop losing
>>731611214>NOOOO YOU CANT HURT THE DEV'S FEELINGS DIRECTLY YOU HAVE TO SHITTALK THEM BEHIND THEIR BACKS LIKE A WOMAN!
>>731611278>hard evidence that the only reason people hate AI is based on feefeesnot the slam dunk you think it is
>>731609559>I think the only place AI has actually made huge advancementsYou don't really have to think in this case. We are going through one of the biggest filters right now, and it's obvious which companies will survive and which will still think it's a bubble and not implement proper workflows. If you're not employed by one of these companies, you're actually gonna be poor, barring some inheritance or whatever.
>>731611338KINO
Do people still have a meltdown if you only use an AI engine with your own work?
>>731611278>can't tell if a song is made by AI https://files.catbox.moe/yg81br.webm
>>731609784>Oldfags may remember how "CGI" got a similar response on a much smaller scale (because of a lack of social media) back in the 90s and early 2000s, but people eventually got over it And complaining over CGI was pretty valid because even though it allowed for some nice animated movies it overall made the movie industry way more souless and corporate. All these years later people are still impressed with practical effects and the shit people had to pull to animate monsters, robots and create all kinds of special effects, meanwhile there is NOTHING impressive about CGI effects.
>>731609305>AIslop cuck pornFixed.
Only human made games deserve my money, AI is for writing me a dozen novels' worth of fap material for $0, shrimple as>>731611278I leave youtube on autoplay at work and I've listened to enough 2 hour free album compilations to get a feel of what's slop and what's not. There's a couple that I really like despite that though.
>>731611068cry harder
>>731606478I don't understand how it's so hard to understand that people pay artists to make art, the only reason to keep paying artists is so they can produce more art. Maybe you like them so much you pay them even more to produce better art. If you take the artist out of the equation and replace it with a machine it doesn't matter.>NOOOOO I HAVE TO BE AN ARTISTyou can still be an artist without getting paid and recognized
>>731611338>If you're not employed by one of these companies, you're actually gonna be poor, barring some inheritance or whatever.Based OpenAI PR employee
>AI is soooo easy to spot!Yea the AI mash ups available to the public. You think real money is waiting for it to show the right amount of fingers? AI has been used and abused for social manipulation for a while now. Your just getting to play with the old models now.
Do you really NEED to make music with AI though? Just look at cruelty squad's soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y12_6rvou_8 It's mostly just weird blips and bloops but it's fucking perfect. You don't need professionally composed sounding music to go with your game, just do shit.
>>731610748Jews will commit heinous acts in the name of justice anon. What are you smoking
>>731606478>dev instantly acts offended and defensive and responds to you with a gigantic post of mental gymnasticsIt really be that way.
>>731611653This is unfiltered garbage. Your example is a game that deliberate looks and sounds like garbage.
>>731606478>THIS IS AI!>yes>AI CAN'T MAKE ART REEEE>games aren't art
>use Songsterr AI to auto-transcribe any guitar-based song or any drum beat>download as midi>plop midi track into template mix from VST of choice>make a couple tweaks so people don't recognize the plagiarism>profitIt's that easy
>>731611675This is true though even creating a simple image requires hours of wrangling
>>731611705Sorry that it doesn't look like Call of Duty and the music isn't lofi soundclound mumble rap, normalfag.
>>731611705And it sells the game perfectly. Sometimes as a developer you have to recognize your limits and work around that.
>>731611653Reading a beginner's book on music theory takes like 2 days. Less time than it'd take to get used to any music production software. This is just trash.
>>731611653Sloppers don't realize that there's beauty in imperfection. Look at how everything they gen looks like the perfect form of whatever style's popular at the moment.
>>731611613>OpenAI employeegod i fucking wish. >>731611627>Your just getting to play with the old models now.we don't even get the old models. The hardware required to run even the outdated corpo shit is off limits too 99.9% of the population.
>>731611765Sorry you have the aesthetic sense of a cucumber, maldnon.>>731611781Or don't, and use AI. It's that easy.
I wish I could keep playing with old Gemini modelsGive me 2.0 and 2.5 back Jewgle
>>731611809>god i fucking wish.Best of luck saar
>>731611820Sorry, I prefer a game with unique appeal like Cruelty Squad over dozens of AI garbage shat out by AIbro normalfags.
>>731611653cruelty squad is a piece of shit and you're retarded
>>731611887>I like garbage because... because it has soul or something!Yeah we know
>BAAAAAWWWWW PAY HUMAN ARTISTS WHAT THEY'RE WORTH!!!!But he did exactly that????
>>731611820>Sorry you haveHave you played the game? Wait, this is /v/ so of course you haven't and proceed to complain anyways
>>731607325Or... just use AI?
AI itself is human made, acting like its some otherworldly thing from another planet is retarded
>>731611924Don't you get it? All the deviantart people posted for a liveable wage right? There's no way my untalented ass is drawing worse than a 13 year old in my 30s, we live in a society.
>>731611924I mean you pay an artist for their time and effort which is something they price themselves. The consumer pays their fees because they deem it satisfactory for their time. The real question is why should anyone pay for AI art when you can just make it yourself for free.
What's the best erp model right now?>just run localI have a potato
>>731609793It sounds better
>>731609784Also drawing tablets. So much shitting on drawing tablets. Anyone remember "it's not real art without a material investment!!!!"?Just kidding, people screeching about AI today never cared or are too young to remember.
>>731611887I prefer neither. Whether it's handmade, AI-assisted, or AI-generated, it should still have some effort and thought put into it. The idea guy should literally be doing his best to come up with a good idea for a game I'd want to play and doing his best to make it into a reality. I'm hardly even a nitpicky person, but it's plain to see when a game just had zero thought or actual effort put into it. 99% of indie games are just slop the same way AI games are slop. It doesn't matter to me if some drooling retard had AI make everything or if he spent 9 years spinning his wheels, getting zero work done, and then claiming he spent half his life on it. You can tell when someone actually wanted to do a good job or not.
>>731612001>just make corporate AI generated garbage bro!lol
>>731612009retard it can self program
>>731612095yeah because the free stock music he was suggesting as an alternative is so soulful and rebellious
A little bit tired of reading same shit over and over, but I've yet to see AI bros post something that fits the definition "it looks good, why does it matter to you if its AI or human made?"Care to show a good looking result of AIgen?
>>731612046The primalist has spoken
>>731610707Why are people who use AI so afraid of being found out?
>>731606478>AI is the FUTURE man! it's totally as good as something human made!>What? NO! I wont say that I used AI for my product!!! that would be stupid...
>>731612196
Allen Iverson was my favorite basketball player. I doubt he can help devs much with making video games
>>731612081>never caredWhat's the problem that?
>>731612259Because the reaction sadly tends to be disproportionally emotional, and in the era of social media that risks your project getting buried.
>>731612278Looks mediocre, if I encountered something like this on twitter I'd skip it, not sure if it's slop or real tho.
>>731612259dev here. it's because it's looked down upon by actual devs, is a confession to not fully making the game by hand and there's no saying how much ai was used if it was found in one place
>>731610148Have the far-left cuck propaganda devs of the last 10 years admitted that their games were wokeslop yet?
Remember when AI struggled with hands (Because most human artists struggle with hands and that was the data it fed off) and artist try to act like it was some epic own
>>731612259AI haters are rabid dogs like the politics people and the conflict only attracts dramaniggers
>>731611068>I'm a proud neo-luddite!
>>731612047Honestly, none are in a good spot right now.GLM can do code well, which lets it do pretty things like pic related, but it's really bad at characterizationKimi K2 is a superb smut writer, but the model is dumb as rocks and extremely prone to hallucinationDeepSeek-V3-0324/R1 played characters in a really fun way, but they were repetitive, and had weird quirks like a desire to break scenery for no reasonDeepseek 3.1 fixed the issues, but got lobotimized. Its erotic writing became much more simplistic and generic. People say 3.2 is better but in my experience, they are retards.No one cares about QWEN.Claude and Chatgpt are too expensive so I never tried them.It's a pick your poison kind of thing. I would suggest paying 3 bucks for a month of chutes and giving them all a try.
>>731612312Nothing on principle, but if more people did care and remembered, we may not be having the exact same conversation as 20 years ago all over again.
The same people also sóypoint and buy photobashed FZD cancerslop like this, don't take opinions from cattle
>>731612330it's slop
Why is computer generated shit fine but ai bad?
>>731612415Oh and Gemini 3 is supposed to be really good, but getting hold of it without having to pay is tricky. Paid version is kind of expensive. Google might also get mad and nuke your account too.
>>731612529AI isn't bad, we're just living through a mental illness pandemic.
>>731612259they know they are slop peddlers
>>731612412>I'm a proud slop eating pig!
>>731612415>>731612047NovelAI is really good if you're willing to pay, I used to use gpt with sillytavern but now since getting into Novel I havent looked back
>>731612529Why computer generated shit didn't attract so many new people, but AI did?This is the answer.
>>731612610>NovelAI is really good No it's not. Never been. Didn't read the rest.
>>731612619Harder to gatekeep?
>>731612659Did you just equate effort floor required to learn a tool to gatekeeping?
>>731606478Fuck slop salesmen
>>731612337holy sovl
>>731612703I was more referring to costs.
>>731612635How is it bad?
>>731612774AI is arguably more costly than most digital hobbies.
Ever notice how "Don't ask questions and consume product" stopped getting posted when ai became popular
>What's the product if it's good? 1.) All AI art is derivative and that's a bad thing2.) Good is subjective and consumers can choose whatever criteria they want to determine quality. If the customer says 'This is bad because AI was used to make it', then they are correct and as a producer of content you must agree with them
>>731612301The AI one looks like a worse version of the previous two pictures.
Look at this absolute slop, there's no artistry or craftsmanship left, completely devoid of human touch. And the pollution my god think about the environment, sure we want to build shit and expand to meet a demand that's higher than the supply but that doesn't mean we shouldn't compensate 30 workers to produce one of these to specifications. An entire class of skilled laborers are being filtered out and you're cheering for it? Sickening.
>>731612597>all advancements are slop! the status quo must be preserved!
>>731609793It's not pure garbage.
>>731612415>DeepSeek-V3-0324/R1Can this still be accessed through the official API?
>>731612924They're all drawn by a human. Congratulations on being mentally ill.
>>731612939>advancements"Advancing" towards what? Everything gets worse, AI slop just facilitates more corner cutting and mass production of trash.
>These niggers are spending their time arguing about whether they should consume ai games or notif you're so smart where's your agentic coded videogames or apps...wait, you guys aren't even making anything with AI, you're just arguing about it on 4chan!?
>>731612939>AIslop is literally like the invention of electricity and flight! Vishnu curse you, saar!
AI haters are mentally ill. Gonna be funny when videos come out with them being tricked into liking or not realizing something is ai.
>>731611653That's fine if you're making some garbage like Cruelty Squad but this wouldn't pass in a Final Fantasy, or Halo, or Zelda.
>>731611805Not true
>>731613034retarded dumb fucking aizoom
Hating AI is like wanting no one being able to keep track of the time of day so that 1000 watchmakers in your country can have a monopoly on the market.
>>731613010AI has made huge advancements in the last few years, neo-luddites calling everything "slop" are just impotently seething>>731613025Nice strawman luddite cuck
>>731606709I was generated by my mom.
>>731610707>If you think some literally who's game is AI, then just don't play it.How am I supposed to know unless I ask. I am just being an informed consumer exercising my rights. If you fly off the handle having a melty it just shows that you have a inferiority complex. So yes I am going to question you about your product. Seethe
>>731613120speaking of which, time is running out before the ai companies pull the rug out from under you, why are you arguing on 4chan instead of making things?
>>731613178my AI is making it for me as we speak
>>731613178what rug retard
>>731612996Nope. They force you to use the latest versions.
>>731613120Explain.
>>731613173moose retard
>>731612939>>all advancements are slop!no just ai """art"""
>Nice strawman luddite cuck
>>731613201Phase out of ownership of personal computers and other AI capable consumer hardware
>>731613205Lame, I just remembered I still have a few bucks in there.
>>731609793It doesn't inflate ram
>>731613034>What do you think of this game? >It alright. >Ha! Guess what!? It is 100 PERCENT AI GENERATED.>Okay. I'm not buying it then. >But isn't that a little...HYPOCRITICAL!? >No. >B-but isn't that->Bye.
>>731613215You are just proving me right by being unable to muster a single argument. If you are unable to answer questions about the product you are trying to sell you should be locked up in jail. You are trying to conduct fraud my good sir
>>731606478It takes like a month to write, record, mix, and master a single song to perfection. It takes a quarter of your life to fully master a single musical instrument. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an AI hater, but this guy is a total faggot for acting like prompting AI is hard work. Anyone could prompt and entire album or soundtrack in an afternoon.
>>731613239i use linux
In the near future, the Prompt Engineer will be the highest caste in all first world nations.
It's curious how proponents if AI tend to rely on such delusional, grandiose, and spiteful claims. You almost wonder if their efforts are fueled by some misplaced sense of revenge.
>>731608925>everyone who disagrees with me is soulless and has no true understanding of reality because… they just don’t, okay!?pure xitter bluecheck pseudointellectual bullshit
>>731613350>fast food worker is highest caste
>>731613201he's a schizo poorfag that thinks computers will go extinct because ....fucking retards I swear
Yes, hello to you my buddy!! You have just caught me..CELEBRATING!!! Celebrating what??? I will tell you good buddy, I am celebrating the release of my 12TH personally developed videogame this month. That is right my friend buddy, I have DEVELOPED and RELEASED a total of TWELVE games this month for commercial saleAnd I usedGENERATIVE AI to do it. Here's how buddy man buddy.First, I ask GRUNK to fill me in on ALL (yes all) of the current market trends in electronic game sales to see what is selling and what is NOT..sellingNow that the AI has told me what I want to make, I do a complete BRAIN DUMPYes I type everything I can think into a text documentTHENI feed my brain dump into Claudette Haiku Complete Version 6 and I ask for the AI to organize and, most importantly, humanize my thoughtsNow using this AI draft I turn to DeepSuck Version CHONG, and I guide the AI in an intellectual step-by-bit process of coding the game from scratchBut now my secret special buddy I have one trickAt 99% completion..I STOP..using AI. Why is this sexy buddy? Because that last one percent? Must be. 100. Percent. Authentically. Human.If YOU want to be a PROFESSIONAL AI developer like ME!? I can show you, just send me 5000 rupees weekly compounding and-
>>731613312Hardware, not softwareOpen source doesn't matter if you cannot afford or even obtain the hardware that is necessary to run a local AI model
>>731613282Mentally ill right here.
>>731613291It's also funny how he goes over how hard it's to prompt music to sound just like he wanted, and yet it still sounds like AI music.It's kinda like making a game with RPG maker. The more limited the tool the easier it's to tell it's been used.
>>731613368t. LMIf you work real hard you might evolve into an LLM, you sub-human.
Luddites impotently seething
>>731606478It's because anti ai twitter ludites don't take no for an answer. The second they accuse you of using ai it's over.
>>731613418my hardware isn't going anywhere and i keep backup parts on hand
>>731613440How so?
>>731613408What part of 'You wil own NOTHING' do you still not get?Even if it wasn't crunch time to make Agenda 2030's hyperdystopia vision of the future reality they'd still be in the process of killing off private computing because the free flow of information and access to things like AI by the common man is a threat to traditional power structures
>>731613213A watch was a family heirloom necessary for working professionals made by highly skilled craftsmen for mostly wealthy clientele but also people investing in future generations. Without it you were stuck forever as a common laborer relying on churchbells and sundials or the cry of the cock in the morning. Class mobility through policy is a complete meme, nearly everything is a direct result of advancements in technology. We have blue collar people living like 18th century barons being able to order feasts delivered to their home at night made by professional chefs.
>>731613553good luck with that vision retard. that won't happen even in a trillion fucking years and everyone in this thread including you knows that. just another pipe dream
Because voice synths are totally way too hard and expensive and there's no way an indie dev could ever use them so all you get is AI slopNote the slop part, if he used a pirated copy of synth V no one would have gave a shit and that uses AI™. The issue is AI gen vocals outside of extremely curated applications of it like synth V universally sound shit
>>731613361I hope not because that would give AI soul
>>731613612What the fuck does any of that have to do with anything? Also anyone who isn't a retard can tell what time it is by the position of the sun alone.
>>731613715nice outing yourself as a Brazilian, try living somewhere where the sun goes down at 3pm every day for 8 months of the year
>>731606478Credit AI in every role you've used it for. So we'll know how much of your own artistry, imagination and personality went into it.I don't minds people using it, just don't steal work AI actually did from it, it's not yours. Don't forget to put yourself as a Prompter. Or AI Operator, if that's too offensive to your ego lol.
>>731613676The generators would have to have souls, first. Better luck next cycle.
>>731606990Cry more tranny
>>731613553take your medication and get a job you freak
>>731613778did you steal the work from your hammer?
>>731613825>false equivalence
>>731612196Would you settle for: it sounds good, why does it matter to you if its AI or human made? https://vocaroo.com/1xsVhlkLygTT
>>731613778>Handmade by Swiss Chocolatiers since 1845
>>731613361I've noticed that as well.I think it's a combination of hubris, need to save face and absence of creativity.No wonder indians love AI.
>Guys, if you just ignore that openAI bought the world's RAM supply and directly showed that they're willing to fuck up the world's supply chain to protect their moat...>I'll just run local!>.... What do you mean my AI workflow of copypasting code and generating one off assets is already outdated? What the fuck is a claude code and a subagent>oh god what the fuck is a gastown>what the fuck do you mean there's people writing automated code that writes more automated code>you need how much fucking ram for that?>what do you mean i've already been left behind and i don't see it yet, but i'm busy arguing on 4chankek, even the ai bros here don't get it yet
>>731613842you can always cry false equivalency as long as it's not equal regardless if it's analogous
My favourite thing about AIjeets is when they talk about digital art, computer made music or CGI and compare it to AI when people always respect and admire things made via "traditional" means (practical effects, stop-motion, instrumental music, hand-made art, hand-drawn animation) while treating "modern" creations like products.
>>731613923>What's 2 + 2?>And don't say 4!
>>731613825If I find War & Peace in the Library of Babel, take it and say I wrote it then yes, I am stealing the book.
>>731613923>you can always cry false equivalency as long as it's not equal regardless if it's analogous>you can always cry false equivalency as long as it's false equivalencyDoes the word equivalent mean analogous?
>>7316139631 + 3
>>731613863>It sounds goodExplain why you think this sounds good.
>>731613941They really do think that a tool that does everything for you is the same thing as making something yourself, because they have no creative ability.
>>731613923You are amorphous and inept. You have no defendable position, and you can't even properly attack others.
>one person does a task in game dev by manually entering 1000 values for hours>the other person uses ai to do it in seconds>the first person claims there work is hand made with no aioh lol
>>731613464do you have an actual argument for how the tweet makes sense that isn’t just insulting anyone who disagrees
>>731614198Who are you quoting, retard?
>>731614198If you're manually entering thousands of values i think you're shit at coding in the first place
>>731606990>internet gestapothanks, i didn't know i was this based
>>731614198>therenext time put the ebonics to the beginning of your posts, so i can stop reading them sooner
>>731612081>digital sculpting isn't real sculptingTheres still traditional artists saying this btw
>>731614198One person did it properly and made sure the code runs wellThe other vibe coded it and now your computer is broken.
AI has ruined:>Gaming>PCs>Tech devices>The environment>Exhentai>boorus>/v/>our consensus of realityAnd yet /v/ is still filled with pro-sloppers.What the FUCK happened?
>>731614215They seem to care more about appearances than about making a valid point. They all seem to have a chip on their shoulders as well.
>>731614373They're shills. Why the fuck do people keep assuming this place is a goddamn consensus?!
>>731614215I'm making fun of you for reading a twitter novel and getting mad, you sperg.
>>731614467>no positionFigures.
>>731606478This dev is a faggot.Yes it matters to make a "real soundtrack". If you are you going to be an indie you need to love being a polymath, it's part of the draw of the profession, you need to care about every aspect that goes into the game including learning how to compose music.It is this which separates the white man from the pajeet.
>>731614373>corpos abuse a technology and use it for nefarious ends>this means that the technology is EVIL!!!>corpos are fine though and I will continue to buy their products :)Quoting your stupid ass.
>>731614373Basically you are an ignorant moron with strong opinions based on bullshit lies.
>>731614517>>corpos are fine though and I will continue to buy their products :)Isn't this what you're arguing about in this thread, to pay the heckin' sloppers what they're worth?
>>731606478Some people are gonna dislike AI no matter what. That can't and won't change, everyone needs to get used to that.But god damn dev is a retard. His only job was to confirm or deny. Instead he streisand'd himself.
>>731614578Not even denying it huh
remember anti-ai spergs live in echochambers, they have no idea how widely spread and used ai tech is now.They are still stuck in the early adoption period and think they can win their anti-ai war by pooping their pants on the net and sperging out at people
>>731611805That's a nice sentiment but definitely not the norm right now. Artists are expected to be intermediately skilled, anything less is treated by most as almost an insult to the eyes that a beginner has the audacity to interrupt someone's art feed.
>>731613553>is a threat to traditional power structuresnot really, they already have an army of bots that manipulate public opinion so that a good percentage of idiots is loaded into agreeing with whatever the orange man does
>>731614691I would much rather see poor art than AI slop.
>>731614740Isn't ai art poor by definition?
>>731614682no matter how much prompting you do it will just spit out generic shit and bad code that lacks any ability to anything specificThankfully chuds are very eager to live in a world of mediocrity because both good and evil are beyond them.https://theconversation.com/ai-induced-cultural-stagnation-is-no-longer-speculation-its-already-happening-272488
>>731609012AI got me through my trip to Japan. I would have had a much harder time scrolling through forums or articles or asking /jp/ but instead I just asked where to go and AI directed me perfectly.This was last May as well so there have been some advancements since then.
>>731614773It's not art
>>731614691I have never spoken to anyone who treated imperfections as deathly affronts and thought they deserved to be taken seriously.
>>731614807t. pea brained idiot
>>731614887ai has pretty much made search engines obsolete. Just in time too because modern search engines are unusable.
>muh ornagem'n>muh chood
>>731614932This is 4chan, tourist. You can say nigger and faggot and shit. I dip my nuts in the Ganges River
>>731614373Pajeet invasion is realThey don't even care that some Indian village gets buried under a mudslide each time someone generates an image of an anime girl And adjacent to them brown gachaniggers aren't any better
>>731614335>criticizes misspelling>uses wrong word entirely
>>731615131No he didn't
AI art is really just counterfeit art. Nothing really much else to say about it other than it has no real value. Now if you're happy consuming content that was produced with no actual talent, skill, or effort, you do you, but don't get all offended or defensive when someone who enjoys something authentic doesn't like when you try and pass off your fake AI art as something valuable or meaningful.
>>731615061>some Indian village gets buried under a mudslide each time someone generates an imageWell, time to start generating my private porn collection...
>>731614932we don't sign our posts here
Another very active Ai discussion. Very good work everyone. Ai is very popular. Let's hit bump limit again.
>>731615171>put ebonics *to* the beginning
>>731611805>Sloppers don't realize that there's beauty in imperfection.This is such a fucking ironic post. You are so damn ignorant lmao, or are you genuinely arguing AI is a perfect art form? Ridiculous.>>731614773The guy is insane. Makes zero sense, there's no logic in his brain.
>>731615201Quit samefagging.
noticed how anti-ai people are either extreme right/left? and they sound exactly the same? horse shoe theory proven correct once again
>>731613809Show nose.
>>731606478He's right
>>731608925I'm not reading that shit
>>731615191Whenever I take a break from generating and then come back and I type "huge boobs" I laugh and feel my brain level up.
>>731606478Only jeets and trannies dislike AI, because it replaces the need to hire them.
>>731615457This is like saying men can't become women and race isn't real bro. You can't do this, it breaks their programming.
>>731615457>jeets dislike AI
>>731606478kneel before the original seajeetking that invented the processhttps://youtu.be/x8VW8QdT7uw?t=1058
>>731609657What if you have a guy who is super passionate about game mechanics and he wants to make a round based strategy game, or perhaps a card game.Yet he doesn’t really care about art design and would like to use AI to create character portraits. Should he get cancelled?
>>731615627Stop acting like that crab is human. You already know the answer and you won't change his mind since he's not even human.
>>731615457i dislike AI because it has colonized my playlists with no way to filter it out. AI music sucks dick because layman retards have no idea how to compose music, not necessarily that the music-creator itself is bad,the same is generally true for 98% of AI generative art, because layman retards have no idea what composition means when organizing a picturethere's a reason peasantry was never allowed to hold a paintbrush
>>731612337AI was trained on photos though. which have loads of hands! You don't understand how AI works.
>>731615627Yes. I've prototyped card games with cards that just have colors and numbers on them.You know your argument falls apart when Minecraft is one of the best selling games of all time, right?
>>731615457White men are the ones getting fired first though?>>731615627Minecraft and Dorf exist, I don't think they cared about art design.
>>731615627You should find a person who's super passionate about design and doesn't really care or not proficient at game mechanics, and you should make a cool gayme together.
>>731615671ESL
>>731615230That's grammatically correct
>>731606478>>731606709>>731606990>>731609257AICANNOT DOANYTHING RIGHT
https://x.com/emollick/status/2015512532056764490
>>731615061>They don't even care that some Indian village gets buried under a mudslide each time someone generates an image of an anime girl
>go in any 4chan thread now and its just poltard brain theft victims screeching about indians.lmao i think this site has reached its shelf life.
>>731615871>lmao i think this site has reached its shelf life.See you tomorrow, champ!
>>731615871>now
>>731615871>niggers crying about trannies for years is ok>like 3~ years of cryign about indians>NOOO STOP ITAre you Indian?This website is unusable for 10+ years already, too bad everything else is even worse
>>731615978trannies are realyou are a trannyjeets on 4chan are unicorns
>>731616027hallo sar u need bath
>>731616027My experience is the complete opposite, I've seen one tranny in my whole life and he was chill other than insisting on using his stupid new name, but LOTS of Indians, South East Asians and other brown scum.
>>731615776"To the beginning" implies movement toward a point. "At the beginning" is a direct placement. It was meant to indicate placing something at a certain time within the post.
>>731614373What did AI do to the panda? Just sloplations, or something on-site?
>>731616154No, 'to' doesn't necessarily mean movement. It can simply mean proximity. It's grammatically correct and you are wrong.
>>731611068look at the ai defenders seething at your objectively correct post
You can't affect anything, you don't matter, you are living in the times and the times are a changin
>>731610784Because people are quite literally persecuting them online.
>>731614502You're an idiot. A single dev would take 1000 years to build a game from a ground up to satisfy your loser ass standard for absolutely no positive payoff. I can tell you've never made anything. Why put the cutoff at using virtual instruments? He didn't compile the sound studio code. He should record with real instruments. Oh but he didn't craft those. That was someone else's work. For what to please your ill defined standard? Nah someone who makes shit is going to make it and be concerned that the thing ultimately looks good snd they're happy with it. Half of anti AI sentiment is spiteful bluesky troons that see the writing on the wall that their shitty artwork is about to be made obselete. The other half are mindless idiots actually following their peer pressure campaign and falling for their bullshit convincing themselves they're benefiting by hamstringing their own productivity. The people who tell the troons to sit and spin and get to work with AI will benefit the most. While the people falling for this 'slop' extinction burst tantrum from bluesky will get played and lose out to the people who learn the tech. Oh and they'll STILL witch hunt you for AI and say you used it for concept work or concept design or layered over a generated output. The spite is unfalsifiable. You either drown with them or adapt.
>>731616118This isn't the real world, it's 4chan. Every single left leaning person is what we call trannies around here, meaning you.> and he was chill Proof that you are indeed a fucking faggot tranny.
