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Post your most wanted Smash 6 newcomer.
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Little bro thinks there's going to be a Smash 6.
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>>731656075
Quaquaval, obviously.
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>>731656075
You'll just get an Ultimate port with more DLC seasons
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>>731656075
>TP will probably be 20 years old before 6 is announced
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>>731656350
>ANOTHER fire emblem rep
boring
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>>731656167
>>731656309
Imagine being this stupid
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master cheff
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>>731656075
Roxas and I have no image of him right now and it's impossible to search for high quality images now apparently.
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>>731656601
You're a fucking retard if you think you're getting a new game
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R8 or don't
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>>731657218
These are all awful choices
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>>731657218
not gonna lie, I got the C from this
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>>731657316
>Heavy Weapons Guy
>Gruntilda
>Awful

Explain yourself
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>>731656075
I will never forget my Divine Dragon friend.
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>>731656167
unc thinks there won't be a smash 6
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>>731656514
???
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>>731656350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls8YA
only if he comes with his theme
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>>731656417
HER with picrel as a close second
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>>731657414
I mean how are those fucking good choices?

Also gotta love how you picked 9 characters and not a single one of them is from the company that makes the fucking game
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>>731656598
based
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What would a Smash 6 even do? Ultimate was already just reheated Smash 4 with minor adjustments and new and returning characters. I struggle even considering it "Smash 5" with how similar everything is. Sakurai clearly is content with how the game plays, what moves the characters have, and what content is available.

Would he even want to do a massive mechanic rework? Would it just be Ultimate+ with more minor changes and even more fucking characters? It just seems so pointless if it's just Sora yet again developing it. A Switch 2 port with some character packs would be essentially the same as a sequel with how homogenized the series has become.
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>>731656709
lowest IQ post in this thread
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>>731657894
Take smash run, make some tweaks to make it like a moba, and sell that. Nintendo has a chance to make a moba that doesn’t suck while keeping the series as a platform fighter.
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>>731656709
Smash Ultimate is the best selling fighting game of all time. It's getting a sequel.
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>>731657218
>Tracer
>Bubsy
Get out
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>>731660325
honestly Bubsy is one of those picks people throw in ironically and then start defending unironically. same tier as Goku or Shrek but with none of the staying power.
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Tom Nook
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>>731660325
Make me
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>>731656075
>Sam and Max
The kings of point and click.
>Bandana Waddle Dee
Bias.
>Quote
One of the first indie games and a good rep for the genre as a whole.
>Frisk
Bias but another good indie rep.
>Porky
The only other mother rep you need.
>Eggman
More Sonic rep.
>Shadow
Bias.
>Heavy
Steam rep.
>Crash Bandicoot
A classic.
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>>731661372
Exquisite taste.
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>>731661372
If Quote is considered, Nicalis is gonna find a way to fuck it up and make Nintendo give up
Like, ask for Link in Blade Strangers 2 or something stupid like that
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>>731657218
crash, rayman and doomguy (not slayer) should already be in the damn game
the rest are whatever, bubsy is more of a joke pick than anything, but tracer is just outright shit. if they're adding anything blizzard related it should be the fucking lich king or some shit
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>>731656075
dante/vergil or ninja gaiden. also zero
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>>731661770
I started playing Overwatch last year, and feel a little bitter I've missed out on the height of OWmania.

Bubsy 4D is so good it unironically made me a believer, but yeah, Bubsy is the weakest pick I chose there. Sam and Max or Guybrush or maybe Dr. Coyle would be better.
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>>731656075
smash's roster is insanely bloated, who cares about more
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>>731661697
>Nicalis
yeah thats really my only concern with including Quote. I would hope they're tasteful about it cause its fucking Smash Bros but you never know with them.
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>>731656075
Brian from Quest 64
Marina from mischief makers
Dixie Kong
Zero or MMZ Zero
Demifiend
Lloyd Irving or Yuri Lowell
Alucard or Shanoa
Paper Mario with partner switch mechanic assists
Lenneth Valkyrie with Einherjar assists
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>>731662151
you dream big anon, i respect that
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With the alt, of course.
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>>731663213
>Truth and Reconciliation Suite for the reveal
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>>731656075
No Smash announcement until more IPs get new games on the Switch 2 so they can use the new designs like we'll get Wokey Kong, Red Samus, Wakanda Emblem MC, etc. Pokemon is also getting Gen 10 this year so that too.
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>>731656075
Started as a joke, but more i thought about her possible moves and historical relevance to gaming, she became my legit top 3rd party never-ever. Plus we dont have a female villain yet unless we count Nigger Samus.
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Just imagine getting a footjob with those monkey handfeet
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>>731656309
I would be happy with just a complete edition of Ultimate. I'm sad Terry and Banjo are stuck as DLC.
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>>731656598
The seethe of animefags would be delicious.
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>>731656709
its literally a money printer
there will be a next one, retard
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>>731657218
Remove the two GaaS shit characters and the indie tranny game in bottom middle.
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>>731657894
Kid icarus uprising multiplayer mode, but Smash.
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>>731661372
S&M are technically not originally from a game. Guybrush on the other hand could work.
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>>731661372
>>Porky
>The only other mother rep you need.
nah bring him back as a boss
>>Heavy
>Steam rep.
why does a nintendo fighting game need a steam rep, at least say chell so it makes sense
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Or literally any MK ninja
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Nintendo's either got this or a 3D Mario in the chamber for this year

And don't say it's "too soon" it'll be 8 years since Ultimate soon enough
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>>731664916
>at least say chell
yeah but i like tf2 so i chose tf2
>>731664221
>S&M are technically not originally from a game.
shit can't deny that. oh well.
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>>731665507
fair enough, I'd just came back to my computer and didn't remember OP text when making that reply
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>>731664916
>at least say chell
you've got to be shitting on my dick right now, no one knows what Chell looks like. They MIGHT recognize the portal gun but even most Portal players wouldn't be able to pick that mug out of a lineup.
People know Heavy. They might not care about TF2 but he and maybe Scout have the most presence across the gaming landscape.
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Smash 6 is not happening.
>B-BUT MUH MONEY PRINTER
Smash 6 is not happening.
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If any Valve character gets in, its Freeman.
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Ashley is small time
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>>731663643
She's in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym7e_Dc8UE
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It's actually difficult to narrow it down to 9
This is what I feel would be 9 good choices in the moment
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>>731656075
Pauline
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Emio with a moveset similar to Q from 3rd Strike. Give Emio the pliers he used to cut his face.
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>>731656075
All I need
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>>731667648
>wanting Sylux after MP4
You're bold, I'll give you that.
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>>731656075
Good gameplay
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>>731667648
>Travis after NMH3.
>Sylux after MP4
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>Was there when 3D gaming was in it's infancy along side Mario.
>"Too Sexual" claims debunked by Bayonetta being in the game.
>"Smash doesn't allow guns", Bayonetta, Snake and Joker deconfirm this
>Her remasters show you can have a retro styled Lara Croft in 2025/2026
Only thing stopping her is who the fuck owns her at this point. She's been passed around more times than your mom.
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>>731657894
>What would a Smash 6 even do? Ultimate was already just reheated Smash 4 with minor adjustments and new and returning characters.
It'll reheat Smash Ultimate with minor adjustments and new and returning copies. Smash 4 sold something like 15 million copies, and Ultimate sold 37 million. Why would you do anything other than make the same game for a fourth time in a row?
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>>731668481
Lara's probably one of my most wanted, along with pic related. I realize most, if not all of them would probably not get in, but I can dream.
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>>731668869
it looks like lara had to crouch down to be in the picture.
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>>731662065
This. And almost all characters play the exact same.
>bair is a kill move
>nair is a short range, lingering move that can link into other moves
>uair is a juggle move
>dair is a multi-hit or a spike
>tilts are either extremely privileged bullshit or garbage moves you should never use because they're inferior to spamming aerials
>neutral B is usually some sort of projectile or attack
>down B is a counter on like 15% of the roster
There are only a few unique and potentially interesting characters in Smash, and most of them are imbalanced or un-fun to fight against.

Shit needs to be boiled down.
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>>731656075
MY LIFE
WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
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>Air Riders ended development late last year
>everywhere I go, I see Smash fans predicting a reveal trailer in February and a release by early 2027
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>>731656598
Hero was designed by the same artist, so that's the closest you are going to get.
>>731656075
For me, it's her. (Pic related).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUZ0K4EvxJE
Lol.
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>>731667648
People like Void Kong?
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My dream is a large NINTENDO roster
FUCK third party characters
Give me Dixie, Sylux, Octaling, Pig Ganon, Toad, Impa, Bob, Rick, multiple gen Pokemon trainers. Shit like that.
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>>731656309
You'll get that, or you'll get something that's literally just an Ultimate port with extra steps.

Pick your poison.
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Kiryu
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>>731669886
>Diddy Clone
>Samus clone
>Inkling clone
>Dedede clone
>Slop
>Shiek Clone
>who
>slop
>Pokemon Trainer clones
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It's her turn!
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>>731668229
>>731668409
>>731669381
Sylux and Void Kong showed potential for very fun movesets
Travis has been my main wish since Sm4sh, can’t betray him after all these threads being a schizo for him
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>>731656075
There won’t be a Smash 6. It has to be Ultimate Deluxe or nothing at all.
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>>731670106
i dont get this fetish, but she looks hot
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>>731670180
That's what you said about Smash Ultimate.
>IT'LL JUST BE SMASH WIIU DELUXE!
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>>731670180
If they do this I hope we get trophies and an updated texture pack. The lighting and some of the character models are awful.
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Dixie and Diddy should just be like Ice Climbers where its 2 characters at once and you can swap between them like in DKC2
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>>731670340
Dixie proved she doesn't need to be in a combo.
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>>731670340
That was the plan in Brawl.
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>>731670267
And it was, ultimately
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New Nintendo ip rep incoming.
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Enough of making him a damn mii costume, he'd be so fun with all his crazy weapons
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how likely is Deltarune content?
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>>731656075
you posted her
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>>731670732
Very, but as costumes and spirits
Sans is in tho
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>>731670732
Depends on when the game releases. If Deltarune comes out first, almost 100%. But I don't think Toby's gonna let any characters be added until the full story is told.
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>>731667648
Travis... had a hard life.
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>>731670267
It literally was desu.
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>>731671358
it literally wasn't senpai
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>>731671358
>>731670495
Uhhh.... no?
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I would be fine with "Smash 6" just being Ultimate Switch 2 Edition being announced with like a $10 upgrade then 2 more rounds of DLC characters desu.
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>>731656075
Imagine placing your bwc between her ape cheeks
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If Sakurai wasn’t a gaylord he would have had Bamco working on the next Smash game while he did Kirby Air Riders. Smash doesn’t need Sakurai, and honestly, Bamco would probably choose better newcomers.
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So what will the selling point be for the Switch 2 Smash?
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>Air Riders redesigned his spear
I want to believe
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>>731671643
why do people have a hard on for this?
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>>731671752
he cute
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We need a visual novel rep. It’s crazy that we haven’t gotten one yet.
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>>731656075
Based. We need more PoC reps
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REIMU
REIMU
REIMU
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>>731657894
You're over thinking it
>New characters
>New stages
>Some kind of new mode

That's it. You don't need to do anything crazy and they'll probably going to have to do a shit ton of cuts due to the license agreements in Ultimate. They'll probably try to make an open world Adventure mode though
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>>731671454
That being said I will actually answer OP's question I guess

>Eggman with a Bowser Jr esque playstyle
>Jill Valentine, but Leon would be fine too
>Alear (toothpaste-chan). I will be crucified for this and I deserve it because I bitched about Byleth and still dont like them but I really like Engage and have played it an autistic amount, plus you can actually do something unique with her ring summoning gimmick
>Bandana Waddle Dee, not even one of his big supporters really but I do think he deserves it
>Raiden would be cool if they could find some way to both represent his cyborg form and mix in MGS2 explosives like Snake has
>Axel or Adam from Streets of Rage would be really cool but I'm not gonna kid myself into saying its relevant enough to be a 3rd party pick. SoR is really good tho
>Umm maybe some weird NES shit like Excitebike Rider or something
>Rollercoaster Tycoon Handyman with broom based combat
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>>731670732
First off, I'm not a rosterfag. I never speculate on which characters Smash will or won't include because rosterfag discourse is so retarded. I have never touched Undertale or Deltarune.

An Undertale or Deltarune character is guaranteed. Consider the following:
>Sans was included in Ultimate as a Mii costume, which has been a precedent for other characters' inclusions
>Nintendo chose to promote Deltarune coming to Switch 2 in its Direct
>Toby is accepted as an auteur in Japan and the Japanese video game industry
>Undertale and Deltarune are incredibly popular, PG-13 games
>Toby has directly collaborated with Nintendo
and most importantly
>Japan fucking LOVES Undertale and Deltarune
This is arguably what sealed the deal for Minecraft's inclusion in Smash. A lot of children play Minecraft on Switch in Japan. The Japanese are very precious about Japanese IPs, and it's rare for them to latch onto Western IPs as aggressively: Moomin, Minecraft, Apex Legends (I don't understand this one at all, but it's popular there). Undertale and Deltarune are one of those things that they've latched onto.

The 2025 rankings for competitive Smash Ultimate were released this last week, and like 80% of the rankings is Japanese players. Every player was allowed to pick a song to play during their footage, and like 20% of them picked Deltarune music, or listed Deltarune as their favorite game they'd played this year. It's a cultural phenomenon over there.

Smash is primarily an advertisement. Joker was an advertisement for P5R on Switch. Hero was an advertisement for DQ11 on Switch. Byleth was an advertisement for FE3H. Min-Min was an advertisement for Arms. Steve was an advertisement for Minecraft on Switch. Sephiroth was an advertisement for FF7R, which is now on Switch 2. Pac-Man and Kazuya are advertisements for Bandai-Namco, who obviously helped develop the game. Nintendo are obviously trying to build a mutually beneficial relationship with Toby and his IPs.
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>>731671752
Autistic fixation on patterns that became a meme
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>>731656075
Skull Kid, Geno, and Bandana Dee because my favorite youtuber said so
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>>731672684
Great, so that means we can finally get Resident Evil representation
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>>731671602
I assume they've been in pre-production for years and then started stuff that he didn't have to directly supervise without him, while he was finishing up Air Riders. Things like designing and actually making a lot of the game's assets.
Ultimate's 3D renders were actually really good, even though the in-game models were much worse. I wonder if they could just re-use the original 3D models, but retain more of their original detail this time.
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>>731656075
I'm still waiting.
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>>731672684
>Undertale and Deltarune are incredibly popular, PG-13 games
They really are not that popular in japan. They have a fandom, but western fans think it has a much bigger impact over there then it really does.
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You have to pick 1 Gen 9 Pokemon (assuming a new Smash comes out before Gen 10).
Which would you pick, regardless of how likely it might be?
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>>731673665
My nigga Tinkaton Gigaton Hammerton
Or Iron Valiant if you want to appeal to the Gardevoir fanbase
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>>731673665
Meowscarada. I don’t care if it’s an obvious choice.
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>>731656075
Is it that time already?
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>>731673665
Armarouge/Ceruledge combo character could be sick
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>>731673665
Fuck the starters
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>>731656075 (OP)
I have more, but I'll limit it to one 1st Party and one 3rd Party each. More new IPs playable in general be nice.
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>want crash
>wanted crash for decades
>now just get lumped in with the people who only want him because banjo got in
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>>731657678
Surely you're referring to Bandai Namco or Sora and not Nintendo, smartass?
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>>731675164
Poor Dillon, that last game should have waited to come out on the switch instead.
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they should put luigi in smash
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>>731675164
>>731675596
Wish he got a collection on Switch. Annoying his first two games are still stuck as downloads.
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>>731656075
or any mainline smt rep but preferably this guy

>>731656514
underrated
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Here's a conversation people aren't ready for.
>Dixie Kong
>Lord Fredrik
>Cactus King
>Funky Kong
>Lanky Kong
Remember when Nintendo said Donkey Kong was going to be a household franchise? Bananza was just the start, and this is the most exposure Cactus King has gotten since 2005. Donkey Kong is about to usher in the era of heavies.
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>>731678416

Dixie is the most IN out of basically every conceivable character. Either solo or they'll revisit the original idea of her being paired with Diddy

And maybe they'll squeeze in one more DK fighter
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>>731678416
>Lord Fredrik
>Cactus King
Who? Are these from the non canon tiki shit games?
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>>731656075
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>>731679083
>they'll revisit the original idea of her being paired with Diddy
Dixie can hold her own, I really don't get why people want a tag-team duo with her and Diddy when that's just going to reduce their moveset. If you really want a duo, Kat & Ana and Plusle/Minum fit that bill way better. I think it's because a lot of people don't like the idea of DK going past three reps, and while not proven, I can see people crying about DK having too many reps.

Never mind DK was outselling Zelda as late as 2011.

731679170
Trying too hard.
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>>731675250
I made a moveset for him before Banjo was announced.
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>>731678416

>not lanky, chunky and tiny like a new pokemon trainer

c'mon son
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>>731679442
>More tag team shit for characters that can stand on their own
It doesn't work for Pokemon Trainer, it doesn't work for the kongs.
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>>731679489

I'll take solo Lanky or Poppy then
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>>731679419

Crash not showing up at all was a surprise when you step back and look at the sheer weight of IPs to end up in the final game
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>>731672684
I mean, if popularity in Japan is a consideration...
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CJ. He is basically a one man's army that can wipe an entire country himself.
>>731679419
Holy autism
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>>731679671
It's why I think he and Rayman are a lock for next game. If not both in base, one in base and one in DLC.
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>>731679767
It's not the only factor. Rosterfags are unable to see the big picture.
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>>731679804
I don't deny it's autism.

I just hope it's mildly engaging.
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>>731656075
I just want a solo Ice Climber. I'm tired of having my nana being so goddamn useless.
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>>731679916
post the rest
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Rallen/Jeena
Saki/Airan
Isa/Kachi
I will never meet with my desires, unfortunately.
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>>731679419
>>731679916
I appreciate your autism, king
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local retard shares leak of smash crusade fan game
smash crusade https://www.mediafire.com/folder/qxmqd4id40wi0/Crusade_builds
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>>731656075
I want less. I want to go back to a sub 20 character roster.
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>>731680104
Those are the only two I've done so far.

Help yourself to the template, though
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>>731661179
based The Lena enjoyer
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I really like making movesets.
https://files.catbox.moe/jkyr9r.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/gg53pi.pdf
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>>731656075
You’re getting Ultimate Switch 2 edition and you’ll like it
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>>731680294
Here's an older concept for spore in smash i made, as well https://files.catbox.moe/33q2j8.pdf
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>>731671752
Random mook who trained to the point that he scales with the strongest heroes of his universe is pretty based
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>>731675250
I understood the arguments for Crash back in 2017 but what really got me on board with him was when fucking Joker was added and Sakurai didn't hide the fact that he personally picked Joker from that list Nintendo gave him. That right there alongside people calling Ultimate a celebration of video games made me push for him, only because it was less a video game celebration and more of a personal compilation of Sakurai's personal favorites.

Plus, Crash already crossed over with DK a decade ago. I thought that would have been a step forward to Crash being in Smash.
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>>731680180
Old build or recent one?
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>>731671752
Completes the main 4 that appeared in RTDL and future games, and people want a dedicated spear user.
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I miss Global Smash Roster.
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assassins creed, fallout and elder scrolls getting Mii costumes was a nice surprise looking back
never thought theyd end up in this series at all
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>>731657218
At least it isn’t Conker, but I’d rather get someone like Fulgore or TJ Combo if we got another Rare rep. Doomslayer is a based pick though.
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The characters I like to play as and the ones I want in Smash are completely different. My most wanted character in Ultimate was Sora but my most played character is Pichu.
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>>731656075
Ryu Hayabusa
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From the PS1 days:
>Crash, Spyro, Lara Croft
>Jill Valentine, Sir Daniel, Parappa.
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>>731680509
This is 9.6
No bullshit
The dev team is currently imploding again and hopefully someone new and competent takes the reigns
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>>731681268
I checked out of Crusade when they added Dragon Ball characters, but the worst part is they have some interesting picks, but still no Diddy Kong and of course mods have to be updated with newer versions. Worse part, they added Balloon Fighter, one of my never-evers since 2005.
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>>731679419
Crashutist… I kneel…
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>>731670024
Let's just hope Ichiban doesn't take that spot
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>>731681463
Dig around in the dev build for something cool (you'll have to finish his specials)
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I feel like an indie rep is all but guaranteed next game, but I feel like a rep from Deltarune, Hollow Knight, or Hades are the most likely bets.
>>731673665
Personally would pick Iron Valiant, Tinkaton, or Ogerpon. If non Gen 9 Pokémon were an option, then Zygarde or Darkrai as a way to represent Legends Z-A, with the former having a gimmick where it can change forms throughout a battle.
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>>731679804
>CJ. He is basically a one man's army that can wipe an entire country himself.
Only if we get a Fat CJ alt with unique dialogue
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>>731681828
Aw shit.
Why'd it take so long for him to be added?
And what happened on the dev team?
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>>731680294
for why
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Waluigi and Dixie.

Everyone else is scraping the bottom of the barrel
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>>731657218
>Crash
Baffled this hasn’t happened yet
>Rayman
The fact that he was in a mario game yet was isolated from interacting with any mario character does not bode well for him
>Bubsy
Eh I doubt Nintendo even thinks of him. It’s a toss up if they would pick his classic design or the modern design to shill his newest game. He would be a joke character a majority of the fanbase would dismiss as a “wasted slot”.
>Heavy
Why? Tf2 isn’t on Switch. Not happening.
>Doom guy
Mii Costume is the best he would get.
>Tracer
Fuck no
>Gruntilda
I don’t see the vision. Maybe graduating from hazard to assist trophy, nothing further. If they add another rare rep it would probably be Conker.
>Kris
lol no. If UTDR for god knows why got a rep it would be the Skeleton bros. Frisk will probably get in there first and the best Kris can hope for is an alt color referencing him. Hell, I see Susie having better chances than Kris.
>Lara
Why?
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>>731680227
Thanks anon, I promise I’ll get one ready this weekend
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>>731656075
>realistic
Phoenix Wright
>unrealistic
Kid Goku
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>>731656075
I just wonder what the gimmick would be. Sakurai made it very clear that "EVERYONE IS HERE!" was a one-time thing, and even if he hadn't said it, it's an obvious situation. Way I see it, dumbass normies won't get why it can't happen a second time, so they'll need a special draw to "make up" for the smaller roster.
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>>731668508
>15M copies
>for a system with an install base of 12M
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>>731656075
As long as they go crazy on magic or weapon swapping.
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>>731682727
Literally who
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>>731682848
Tamber from Children of Mana. I know Riesz or Charlotte are more realistic Mana reps, but she's my favorite.
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>>731657894
Tag Team Mode where you can switch to another character, assist call mode you can summon spirits ala Marvel vs Capcom 1.
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The real question is if the Zelda franchise will continued to be shafted or if it'll finally get thrown some scraps after not getting a true new character since fucking Melee.
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>>731682657
They will bring back Subspace Emissary and nobody will complain anymore about the lack of everyone
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>>731683281
Not a chance. Sakurai to this day is STILL seething like a little baby about the cutscenes being posted on YouTube.
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>>731673665
Ogerpon with a mask swap gimmick.
Up Special: Vine Whip; tether recovery and take off current mask.
Down Special: Spiky Shield; counter and put on Cornerstone Mask.
Neutral Special: Ivy Cudgel; falcon punch and put on Hearthflame Mask
Side Special: Magical Leaf; weak projectile and put on the Wellspring Mask

The masks would increase and decrease her speed and weight and other properties, and affect damage dealt.

Final Smash: Teal Mask. Just a really strong fast slam of the Cudgel.
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>>731682210
The collapse of the crusade dev team can be tied to a multitude of factors. The current dev team is the skeleton crew of the third or fourth set of devs which had a falling out with the game's modders, who quickly surpassed the actual team in talent. These modders now work on the game Prism Cross, a much more polished experience with its own, non-Smash flavor. One of the big rifts between the devs was the desires of the spriters vs the desires of the coders. Everyone remembers how ugly Crusade used to be over a decade ago and many of the devs took it to heart a couple dev teams ago. Therefore they stopped putting in characters with public spritesheets and started bringing stuff in-house. However, spriting an entire character's moveset takes a ton of time and autism you're not consistently getting out of people without money. Since the coders didn't have as much material to practice making characters with back then, development took a long time, and that's not getting into the roster slapfights. Eventually the older devs moved on to other things but many of the ideas they felt were Chesterton's fences remained on the team., like locking down the game's files or going for a more "professional" appearance. Several years ago someone figured out how to mod in new characters and it led to a renaissance of activity around the game. Some of these modders became devs and brought a different culture than the culture of American rosterfags the game was built around. Autistic slapfights abounded and all the competent people left
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Wart, one of Mario's main antagonist who never made it in smash and got totally forgotten by Nintendo. I don't care about doki doki panic, for me he is part of my childhood and he should come back.
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>>731656075
>>731677627
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>>731683471
>However, spriting an entire character's moveset takes a ton of time and autism you're not consistently getting out of people without money.
I remember all the custom sheets done back twenty or so years ago and that shit takes a long time to make, and this was before the monetization shit took over creativity. I can't imagine people doing custom sprite sheets now without either a huge love for the art or money like you said.
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>>731673665
ceruledge, he's so fuarking cool
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>>731682313
>Lara
>Why
Literally one of Gaming's actual icons, was there when 3d games where just starting out along side Mario in Mario 64. Has been on a bunch of Nintendo Consoles.
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>>731656075
Someone from Puyo Puyo.
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>>731684053
This, after Chun-Li, Lara was the second lady of gaming, and the first lady of 3D gaming. Honorable mention to Sarah Bryant.
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>>731673665
Meowscarada I think has a lot of potential for an interesting moveset.
Grassy Terrain for a buffing zone. Hone Claws as a pseudo Samus/DK charge up, but it buffs any next attack.
Toxic Spikes for caltrops. Knock Off or Thief to disable or catch projectiles.
You could do some cool stuff with Trick Room.
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>>731656075
If there IS a Smash 6
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>>731684309
I hazard to say Lara may out rank Chun Li. Chun Li was a part of an assamble. Lara was on her own whooping ass in her own series. Like don't get me wrong. Chun Li earned her spot, I just think Lara's a bigger deal.
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>>731683578
Wart deserves the same amount of recognition that both Shy Guy and Birdo got.
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>>731682459
I look forward to it! I'll work on my third.
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>>731686085
I can't argue with that, she was another unofficial Sony mascot even though she debuted on the Sega Saturn. If SEGA got their shit straight, Lara could have been a SEGA affiliate.
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>>731686458
I don't even know who owns her now. Is it Amazon?
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>>731670732
>>731671142
>>731672684
Toby Fox does not want plushies of the Lighteners
He wouldn't want an amiibo
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>>731656075
you posted her
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oh man a new Smash after Sakurai said it was for real his final Smash game this time, but he just HAD to come back to direct it because NO ONE else could be up to the task
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I wish Smash would just stop trying to appeal to compfags and instead just be its own fun thing like Brawl was, and be its own game, instead of just trying to be a compfag game (part of the reason why Ultimate is completely barebones in any actual single player content)

Brawl is literally better than Melee in everything except the compfag gameplay, yet people won't shut the fuck up about it.
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>>731656075
How likely is it for Sora to return? We know Disney has no issues. And Nomura has no complaints about how Sakurai presented Sora. But will Nintendo want Sora back? Thus far the only third party safe is Sonic.
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>>731688951
Pac-Man's also safe, if this is still a collab with Bandai Namco.
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>>731656075
Crash Bandicoot, Leon Kennedy, Lara Croft, DoomSlayer, Shantae, Ryu Hayabusa, Krystal, Rayman and Dixie.
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Waluigi
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>>731686673
>Kris and Susie are a no go
>Ralsei takes the spot by default
>Art of every character in SSB getting a taste of his “about 12 inches” ensues
Mein gott…
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>>731673665
Tinkaton sexo
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>>731656075
I don't play smash anymore but for lulz I'd pick Goku or Doomguy.
My only serious pick would be Phoenix Wright (and if they did him, there's a chance they'll throw in Edgeworth as an echo).
>>731657672 and >>731662103 have good picks. I guess Shadow >>731674164 might be cool as well.
>>731690015
You unwashed fatasses are still on this reddit pick 10 years later?
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>>731688682
Im begging on my hands and knees for someone else to direct this
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>>731673665
What are these digimon ass names?
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>>731681845
>indie rep
Like it or not, that's Steve.
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>>731656075
I want to see the seethe from Shadowfags and Eggfags.
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>>731678416
Next DKC game is going to have all three of them as bosses.
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>>731656075
>John Darksouls
>Reimu with Marisa echo
>Alucard with Soma echo
>Phoenix with Miles echo
>Undertale/Deltarune rep
>Midna + Wolf link
>Dante
>Tiki
>N+Zoruark
>Sceptile (Starts as treecko then evolves as you attack)
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>>731690771
>Sceptile (Starts as treecko then evolves as you attack)
I would be pissed if a Pokemon got that as a mechanic before a Digimon rep with variable evolutions.
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>>731673665
People talk a lot about how bad modern Pokemon designs are, but what's more wild is how forgettable so many of these are. There's so many Pokemon here that you just NEVER see used in any capacity and wouldn't even know are in the game.
>Bellibolt
>Killowattrel
>Mabosstif
>Grafaiai
>Brambleghast
>Bombirdier
>Revavroom
>Orthworm
>Glimmora
and then they gave up and started reskinning existing Pokemon.

The absolute worst one is Cetitan. I have literally never seen this Pokemon used by anyone, ever. You could tell me it doesn't actually exist and was slipped in here as a prank and I'd believe you.
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>>731690771
>>Starts as treecko then evolves as you attack
kino
>regigigas that regains its speed & strength after a certain amount of damage is either dealt or received
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>>731690257
lol
lmao
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Ashley
Meowth
Disk-kun
Paper Mario
Jibanyan
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>>731692919
Paper Mario is the biggest exclusion, considering its basically the one still active franchise from Nintendo that lacks representation in smash.
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>>731693074
People would just demand that his attacks all be Vivian-related. Fucking trannies.
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>>731670024
Cant happen since he cant hit women
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>>731656309
>fighter pass 3 continuing as if Ultimate development never stopped
>both Switch and Switch 2
>5 more characters
>30 dollars
>Switch 2 gets 5 or 10 dollar upgrade
>improves resolution
>mouse in stage builder
>Gamechat support with face bubbles with friends
>Gameshare support online and local
You rike?
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>>731657218
Doomguy, Crash and Scorpio are the only gaijin trash that's welcome in Smash.
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>>731693360
True nip gamers would welcome Werdna or the Avatar repin Wizardry and Ultima.
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>>731688801
I have no interest in a Smash 6 beyond how much it makes competitive players suffer. I'm not saying this as a casual player. I just think it's hilarious how delusional nu-Smash players are, and their suffering amuses me because I am petty and vindictive. An actual act of God snowed Steve players out of the venue at a tournament this weekend, and everyone says
>A tournament without Steve, YES!
>WE'RE SO BACK!
and then this is the top 8. Mega Man, Snake, Sonic running 30-minute sets. It's comedy gold. Luckily, I know I can count on Sakurai to deliver another game that makes competitive players suffer for another decade.
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>>731670732
You're getting a Tenna Mii Brawler costume and you will like it!
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>>731693360
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>>731694485
Mii costumes are pretty good predictor of potential characters, and Undertale already got one. It even got special treatment in the form of a music track.
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>>731693294
This is literally all they need to do to sell tens of millions of copies. It's crazy.
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>>731656075
honestly, rosalina and little mac were it and they already done turned up, so
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>>731680294
>>731680380
Your autism is rubbing off on me, so I'm now thinking of how kino a Zarkhator moveset could be.
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>>731695080
I actually think that's the shit they'll pull with this game. They already did it for Animal Crossing. They released basically a free demo for the DLC to try to get people to go pay for that instead of making a new game. Smash Ultimate is already a 120 dollar game. They can milk this paying customer base of 30 million for 30 more dollars. And push people who haven't paid for the earlier fighter passes to pay for it. It's probably how Sakurai could get away with working on both Kirby and Smash.
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>>731695319
Based.
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Who is the most powerful Smash Bros. player?
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>>731656075

I kind of want to make Smash run happen again, except you can enter in big teams and there are bosses in parts of the level like dracula & Ganon. & something to work towards so you'd get some monetary value depending on how well you did. youd get some in other game styles too.

You could buy really expensive unique skins for characters with the in-game currency like the crazy ones in the mario kart phone game.

Itd be cool if we got fighting polygon team, wire frames, fighting alloys at the very least as mii costumes, or some kind of nod to them.
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>>731695583
>They already did it for Animal Crossing. They released basically a free demo for the DLC to try to get people to go pay for that instead of making a new game.
This shit pissed me off. I didn't pay attention to the Direct, so I heard about the update through a friend, updated the game without knowing what was in it, and was confronted with a watered down advertisement for the DLC. It was only then that I actually looked into the update, and realized how bare-bones it is in addition to this. Two or three new furniture sets, a few misc. items, and like 5 shirts that aren't locked behind Amiibo. Just insane.

>It's probably how Sakurai...
I think Sakurai is possessive enough of his work that he wouldn't approve of a lazy Switch 2 edition of Ultimate like that, but I don't know how much control he actually has in such a scenario. Your dick has to be pretty massive to tell your employer
>okay, thanks for letting me make Kirby Air Riders, delaying Smash 6 by at least a year or two
>but I'm not going to sign off on you making millions of dollars for free while you and every consumer waits for it to be finished
I expect a Switch 2 edition.
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>>731698349
>really expensive unique skins for characters in Smash 6
locked behind Amiibo
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>>731698734
suits me, ive got an nfc spoofer.
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>>731695213 (me)
https://rentry.org/zarkhator4smash
Finished the Zarkhator moveset for all 5 of you Spore Hero fans.
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>>731673665
Tinkaton
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>>731680294
oh man, this reminds me when i used to make movesets of cartoon characters
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>>731699891
tranny pick
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>>731699932
Fuck Nickelodeon and Warner Bros for giving us false hope that a Smashlike with cartoons could be good. Will still likely make movesets anyway.
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>>731700015
but
nasb2 IS good
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>crash
this irrelevant faggot couldnt even get into sony all stars LMAO, its never going to happen
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theres already way too much fucking bloat. reduce it to down to melee roster and give everyone a totally reworked moveset.
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>>731656417
>For her neutral-special, she drains your cum
>Game requires automated mechanical fleshlights and buttplugs to play
>These also have sensors to detect when/how intensely/how much volume of cumming is happening; giving Midna proportional access to special dark magics

Never doubt
Soccer Guy's
VISON
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Enough about characters, I want an actual good Adventure mode again...
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>>731656075
Something from MH, but not a hunter. Either a Palico or an iconic monster. Velocidrome would be funny. Maybe a Felyne and Canyne built off of duck hunt alongside being a rep for Rise.
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>>731680921
sauce
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>>731656075
I stopped that shit after Brawl, but I'd want KOS-MOS purely to remind people that Saga was a thing and is far superior to blade in most ways. Fuck i'd even play Saga 2 again before I give Blade 1 another attempt.
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>>731657678
>>731657316
>down syndrome noises
?
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>>731702369
Me.
That's ai.
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>>731702841
Yes, but whose style are you copying
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>>731702841
Pretty good fellow Novelai bro. Might I suggest you drop some kino nsfw in the aislop threads on trash from time to time?
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>>731702915
https://novelai.net/inspect
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I'm still holding out for GoldenEye, even though it has a 0% chance of happening because muh films. Oh well.
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>>731656075
honestly smash fags deserve nothing
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>>731698628
>a year or two
If he started now it would probably be 2 or 3 years. The time Nintendo needs Smash and the time it would take to make one from scratch just seems unfeasible to me. Just adding more characters to the existing game is the quickest, easiest, highest profit option. It won't force people to go Switch 2 unless Switch 2 comes with exclusive modes but it can still make money from Switch 1 owners. As long as there's character, stage and item parity I think having both consoles versions coexist is fine.
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>>731699705
Ez
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>>731704748
I'm not saying it's going to release in a year or two, I'm saying that Air Riders probably delayed its production by a year or two. I also think it's 2 years minimum. But there are a lot of Smash players who seem to think that we're getting a Smash 6 announcement in a February Direct that hasn't been announced yet, which is wild to me. I was watching hbox's online tournament last week and couldn't believe what I was hearing.
>And then Nintendo comes in from the top rope...
and sends a cease & desist to the delay mod developers?
>... and announces Smash 6

Sound WebM, obviously
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>>731683578
The most you will get is a cameo in the second Mario movie.
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>People believing that Sakurai will even bother to add a second Sonic rep.
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>>731702841
YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT LUIGI
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>>731707015
>we got mouser in modern mario before daisy

KWABOTY
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HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY FOLLOW UP SMASH ULTIMATE?

THEY SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FUCKING FOOT

THEY AREN'T GOING TO BRING EVERYONE BACK PLUS MORE CHARACTERS. IT IS NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE.
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>>731707949
they'll do the unthinkable
improve the gameplay so it's not floaty slop where the best way to win is to camp
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>>731656514
ACKSHULLY He's a Famicom Wars Rep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xiuqvxsnmw
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>>731683578
https://www.mariowiki.com/Shy_Guy
>First appearance Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

https://www.mariowiki.com/Bob-omb
>First appearance Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

https://www.mariowiki.com/Pokey
>First appearance Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

https://www.mariowiki.com/Ninji
>First appearance Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

https://www.mariowiki.com/Birdo
>First appearance Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

Nintendo uses stuff from Mario 2, but they just specifically don't like Wart.
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>>731680294
Here's a ditto moveset that uses a different pokemon for each move
https://files.catbox.moe/wg462q.pdf
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>>731708360
It's a shame because with some tweaking he could be interesting, like a villain that invades peoples' dreams and turn them into nightmares for some plot he's got going on.
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>>731694321
I'm not entirely sure why we didn't keep steve banned because he's still worse than sonic and megaman by a lot.
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>>731708823
Maybe they will add it after Pokopia, it’s literally that
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>>731709530
>Dampé and Beedle continue to be legacy characters
>We haven't had a Malon in over twenty years
This is so fucked.
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Actual based choice coming through
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>>731709445
Nintendo threatened to cancel tournaments that tried to ban Steve, and this was after the Smash community spent years waffling on whether it was right to ban Steve

The funny thing is that the one tournament that did ban Steve a few years ago was easily the best one in years. But really, banning Steve or even every DLC character will achieve nothing. It's degenerate characters all the way down. I find it funny that people are actually cheering for Mega Man. He's as much of a camping, zoning bitch as the rest of the top tiers.
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>>731710263
Blocks and mine cart are way worse than anything the rest of the cast does, it was maybe interesting for one day and didn't just get old but became rage inducing every day after.

Easily the best reason to quit smash, degen characters will always be good because nintendo is fucking greedy and incompetent to where the can't spare any amount of money on fixing the game but nothing will ever make
>steve makes blocks in the corner
>he mines
>spams mine carts then repeats
a complete antithesis to fucking smash brothers, the game where we're actually, you know, fighting each other.
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>>731710121
Only if he does unnecessary backflips to dodge
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>>731700115
That was entirely greedy ass Activisions fault.
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>>731710480
Forgot to add that the concept of an unblockable projectile is fucking disgusting and alone is enough to fucking kill any game.

Sakurai is legit fucking retarded for not just throwing this aids ass character in the game but ON TOP OF THAT, ending smashes support soon after his release.
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>>731709825
Im thinking the human Ditto from thar game is getting in. Watching the trailer, it had a lot of move potential and isn't your typical Pokemon pick.
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i don't know why people keep suggesting random, one-off antagonists / villains like skull kid, raven beak, sylux, etc.

>DK
recurring antagonist who ascended to protagonist
>bowser
mario's main recurring antagonist
>ganondorf
zelda's main recurring antagonist
>wario
one-off antagonist who ascended to protagonist (of four different games: wario's woods, wario land, wario world, and warioware)
>dedede
kirby's main recurring antagonist (and ascended sidekick)
>meta knight
kirby's second most recurring antagonist (and ascended sidekick)
>wolf
star fox's main recurring antagonist
>bowser jr.
mario's / yoshi's second most recurring antagonist
>k. rool
DK's main recurring antagonist
>ridley
metroid's main recurring antagonist
>dark samus
recurring antagonist of the prime series, also an echo fighter

it's recurring villains and ONLY recurring villains. the only exception is sephiroth, who is one of the most iconic video game villains of all time. motherfucker, NONE of these one-off villains from games from your childhood that haven't been relevant for decades are getting in. if you're looking for a new villain in smash 6, you're getting a splatoon villain (either DJ octavio or an octoling as an echo fighter), possibly a fire emblem villain, and / or a popular recurring antagonist / ascended protagonist who isn't represented (like eggman, or shadow as an echo fighter).
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>>731711615
Sylux has shown up in 3 games and is being built as the main villain in the new Prime trilogy (if they finish it) so he could have more chances, but yeah, doesn’t help that not a lot of Nintendo franchises have recurring villains
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>>731707558
It wouldn't have existed if not for me, so yea. I did.
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>>731695319
>Mike Jones
WHO
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>>731709949
TP effectively confirmed that Malon cucked Princess Zelda
She’s too strong to be unleashed in that capacity again
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>>731682313
>Eh I doubt Nintendo even thinks of him. It’s a toss up if they would pick his classic design or the modern design to shill his newest game. He would be a joke character a majority of the fanbase would dismiss as a “wasted slot”.

They should use the modern design. Bubsy 4D has gone such a long way towards making Bubsy likeable that I would be fine with never seeing classic Bubsh again.

Maybe Bubsy 3D Bubsy as his Fake Crash, but that's about it.
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>>731711615
What about Dark Pit?
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>recognizable character from major series that hasn't had a newcomer since Melee
>high potential for varied moveset
>would make millenials piss and shit themselves
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>>731715631
B-B-But my arbitrary rules...
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>>731702841
plapping human dixie
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>>731715631
>hasn't had a newcomer since Melee
Why does Sakurai hate Zelda so much?
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>>731693294
>only 5 new characters
No, I don't rike. This game is quantity over quality anyway, it should embrace that more.
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>>731714273
Dead IP, Sakurai's pet project so he gets special treatment, and also just a lazy clone / echo so it wasn't difficult to include him
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>>731719139
>Dead IP
Like ARMS? That was DOA and got a DLC fighter.
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Batman. His moveset would be based on the 1990 NES game.
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>>731700440
>neutral-special, she drains your cum
>Kirby can copy her ability
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>>731680921
>>731702841
post more fucker
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Next fire emblem protag
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>>731711615
Hey dickhead? The 'relevant' arguement died when they added Banjo and Kazooie.
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>>731706352
Its not that crazy that one could come out this year
>Bamco's Studio S/2 puts out job application for "Action game with a side view"
>Around the same time, Smash Ultimate gets new content in the form of spirit events
>Smash thing happened with Splatoon 2 in 2020. Splatoon 3 came out 2 years later

There is a good chance it's in development now and slated for 2026 or 2027. There is also the fact Nintendo has been weird on approving Smash tournament licenses in 2026 which may line up with a new game. Most likely Nintendo wants to make the games themselves which is why they suggested Air Riders rather than a new Smash game. What's weird is Sakurai couldn't start the game until April 2022 which is when Kirby and the Forgotten Land finished. But Bamco made Air Riders rather than HAL. So why not start right after Ultimate's DLC was done? My guess is HAL is making Smash with Sakurai providing some assistance to a new Director. This would also line up with how Nintendo gave Retro back Metroid Prime when they had initially given it to Bamco. It might also be a while for another Kirby game so they wanted Air Riders in the meantime. It should be noted that besides the Forgotten Land DLC, HAL hasn't released anything major since mid-2023.
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>>731700115
Again, the relevant argument sort of falls flat when they added Banjo 'Four Games to my Name' and Kazooie
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>>731721640
And MinMin
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>>731721640
>>731721754
Banjo was the second most requested character on the Smash Ballot and Nintendo owns ARMS. It's not the same.
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>>731721754
Oh now you're just making excuses.
>Ice Climbers are owned by Nintendo, SO WHAT IF THEY ONLY HAD ONE GAME FROM THE LATE 80S!?
Relevance doesn't fucking MATTER. Jigglypuff hasn't been relevant since gen 1. Captain Falcon? Ice Climbers? Pit? Banjo Kazooie? FUCKING STEVE ONLY HAS ONE GAME, but you'll just post the 'highest grossing video game ever' excuse (which it hasn't been in years, since Pokemon mogs it.)
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i love when roster fags make up their own rules:
>has to be relevant
>has to have been on a nintendo console
>needs to have a new game coming out
when sakurai himself said the only qualification was that he has a toy of them somewhere
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>>731722297
Especially since essentially every rule these idiots come up with have been broken at least once, so then they have to think of a way to loophole it.
>"So what if Ice Climbers had one game no one cared about from the 80s?! It's Nintendo, isn't it?! But Skill Kid can't get in because...well, he just can't okay?!"
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>>731722297
>Sakurai flexing his statues of Pyra and Mythra
Based
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>>731722297
When Nintendo has to go out an license the character from another company, it kind of matters. That said, first, I'd would say relevancy in Japan matters more since if the Japanese don't care for it, they wont even consider adding it.

This is assuming the next game will be like Ultimate and have a ton of third party characters and truthfully, it probably wont be. Ultimate (or Special in Japan which is how you should see what Nintendo and Sakurai see the game as) was more a product of the Smash Ballot than anything else. This is why there was a focus on bringing everyone back and then doing very popular picks. The third party push was also a result of Nintendo interest being way down with the failure of the Wii U and the relative failure of the 3DS. It's not unlike a gacha game collabing with another big IP to save the game.

But now the ballot is over and there isn't going to be the same interest in someone like Crash for two reasons
>Nintendo has pretty much added every obvious third party character. Remember that Megaman and Sonic were once considered the two most popular characters and Megaman was only added one game ago. There really aren't many series with a long history and are popular in both Japan and the West, so it makes it hard to add a new character into the mix.
>Nintendo has a vested interest in pushing their IPs and Smash is a great way to do that.
If you don't believe me, look at Mario Kart. Everyone swore up and down it was going to be Nintendo Kart. What happened instead. Nintendo went the open world route and the game became about Mario characters again. It could easily be the same for Smash, and seeing as they've updated the trademark to include restaurants and hospitality, they probably intend it more to be a Nintendo thing than a gaming thing.
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>>731723147
Ah yes, I remember billions of people in Japan demanding Ice Climbers to be included, they where THAT relevant.
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>>731656075
I want more games with Dixie first. And ones where she can use her helicopter hair and not being glued to DK's back on single player.
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>>731723147
The only character I can think of that has relatively equal love in the East and West is like...The Prince from Katamari. And that's a long-running series that has Nintendo ties. Granted, as much I want him in, I doubt it'd ever happen.
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>>731656075
Smash 6 isn't about who I want in, it's about who I want out.
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>>731725083
>I want to pay more for less
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>>731726069
>Someone at Nintendo really hates Malon
Fujibayashi. Malon gets in the way of his Link/Zelda shipping. And I mean hell, Malon also could've appeared in Echoes of Wisdom, there was an active ranch there. But nope.
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>>731726613
>it burned a lot of bridges with its shoddy quality.
Literal headcanon. Just because a few people whined about Kingdom Hearts III doesn't mean the series isn't still loved.
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>>731656075
All i want is Rayman as a playable character. He even has his own DLC for a Mario + Rabbids ffs.
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>>731727247
>Now Zelda is so powerful that why the hell does she need Link
Clearly not since she's never been shown to be strong enough to fully stop Ganondorf/Ganon on her own. Even in her two recent solo games she couldn't beat the big bad by herself.
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>>731727767
It was clear sooner or later her power would fail and Calamity Ganon would break free. All she did was hold him back, but it was ultimately a battle she'd lose.
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>>731726613
KH Collection was leaked coming to Switch 2 this year
And for sure KH 4 will (if it comes out)
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>>731727885
Also on top of this a (fake, weaker) version of Ganon captured her in Echoes of Wisdom and Link had to rescue her.
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>All these deleted posts
KWABOTY
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>>731723869
Again, Nintendo owns Ice Climbers. It's not a series they need to go out and negotiate with another party on.
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>>731728380
Could you stop moving the goal post?
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>>731722129
Minecraft still is one of the best selling games every year. Sakurai flat out said Steve got in because execs kept pushing for his inclusion, which they asked for because Minecraft is huge
>>731722297
Min Min has a toy? Sounds like you just made up your own rule. He said a figure is helpful, not that they need one.
>>731723147
I think Crash gets in just cuz they're out of big third party picks, he translates to Smash easily, and Microsoft will give them whoever they ask for. They gotta go to them to get Banjo again anyway. He wasn't a major request til after Banjo got in, but Sakurai gets paid solely based on game sales (look up his Sora Ltd - Grab Bag vid) so he'll prob just default to whatever the popular requests at the end of Ultimate were like him and Dante for third party picks.
>>731728953
NTA but they didn't, they were specifically talking about third party characters, you dolt
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>>731699705
Dora the Explorer
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>>731699705
Otis
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>>731656075
Shadow the Hedgehog
Phoenix Wright
Ashley from warioware
Midna
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>>731721213
Normally I wouldn't have actually taken the time to compile the lewds of this set.

But since there's an absolute MEGADORK in the /vig/ thread who is super super upset that I've posted even this much already ( >>555380762 ) I'm gleefully making an exception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOFCQ2bfmHw&t=29s
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He's gonna have kittens after this. I can't wait.
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Oh that led to a very different post. Whoops.
Here's the proper megadork: >>>/vg/555380762
>>731732302
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>>731656075
Be honest op, you want her so you can have her do to your banana.
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>>731721436
Dead character with six games instead of just one.
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>>731656075
With the Dixie DLC, DK getting more relevant with Bananza, and given Sakurai is clearly a fan of her, I think she's one of the safest bets for a new game. Anyway my usual most wanted was Skull Kid with Majora's Mask, but I don't think he really has a chance anymore. So I'll say Bomberman would be cool to see.
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>>731709228
This guy made a pretty good case for making Wart a new antagonist for the Yoshi games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fH6xcjbJvs
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>>731733829
It'd be a hell of a lot better than Kamek and/or Baby Bowser for the tenth time.
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The true protagonist of Street Fighter 6 should be in
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>1st party
Ravenbeak, i know he wont make it but the dude stole the show in Dread, EMMI as AT would be neat.

>3rd party
From rep, preferably Chosen Undead but i will understand if Tarnished makes it instead even if i disagree. Like the games, the company shaped the vidya landscape of the 2010's, deserve the recognition
>runner ups 1st party
-Dixie, i like her.
-Warioware rep, preferably Mona, but i would be fine with Ashley or a duo of 9volt and 18volt, as long the one that gets in has the microgame concept tailored into their specials
-Mike Jones, i just like Startropics, find it a fascinating piece of nintendo history and think he would be cool
-Medusa, i just want one evil woman and while i would prefer Cpt Syrup, Sakurai could just make her a Palu semi-clone easily and he has own creation bias, so sure, sexy serpent head lady.

>3rd party
-Agumon, i like digimon and digievolving and going back and forth during the fight sounds like an unique fun concept
-Ryu Hayabusa, KT has no reps in and he is the mascot of the company
-Reimu, just because the indie doujin nip game sphere deserves some respect
-Doomguy, i think he is cool
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Reminder that Steve WILL come back for Smash 6 and he WILL be nerfed into B-tier like Meta Knight and Bayonetta before him.
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She is coming, and she WILL cause the single most amount of seething the series has ever caused.
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>>731736828
That goes without saying.
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>>731656075
Why is she so erotic? I don't get it.
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Is it bad that the Piranha Plant was my favorite of all the new fighters? I like that it's just funny and by Nintendo. I wish there more Nintendo characters in the Nintendo fighting game rather than Elden Ring or whatever nonsense people want.
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>>731656075
Linkle from Hyrule warriors
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>>731721605
https://files.catbox.moe/ygosy2.pdf
Here's a springtrap moveset as well :)
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Lara Croft
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>>731721605
>Bamco's Studio S/2 puts out job application for "Action game with a side view"
So why would Nintendo give Smash to HAL then? I doubt they would have trouble with Smash now if they were able to successfully make 2 Smashes.
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>>731682695
It had a 3DS version too, that's where the 15m sales came from.
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>>731707949
Switch 2 Editions don't need them to relicense everyone when they're literally just patches/DLC that only the Switch 2 can download.
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>>731715631
>character millennials want would make them piss and shit themselves
You mean in joy, right?
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>>731656075
I wouldn't mind Lara Croft now that she's cool again. I just didn't want survivor Lara.
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Hear me out...A SECOND Game & Watch rep.
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>>731656709
Ignore them Anon, they will get a switch 2 port with no added content except maybe a few spirits and they will like it. Reminder Sakurai himself said Ultimate would be the last smash game he would made, and no, someone cannot do it without his consent as it would be plagiarism
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>>731709530
Give him a moveset /v/
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>>731745136
Ha, remember when he said Brawl was his last one?
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>>731720859
Lol
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>>731745136
>and no, someone cannot do it without his consent as it would be plagiarism
(laughs in katamari)
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>>731656075
She's been my most wanted since Brawl
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>>731656075
First smash game to say fuck
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>>731747997
Bayonetta was totally meant to say fuck, but it got turned to flock.
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What if uh...the next game was Smash, but like uh...fucking? Heh. That'd be funny.
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>>731749483
that's funny
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>>731747997
Travis is a legitimately good choice
>debuted on the Wii, NMH is essentially a Nintendo IP
>unique
>being a weeaboo gamer makes him a funny, ironic inclusion (and a candidate for a secret taunt like Snake's codec or Palutena's guidance)
>plenty of moveset potential, including the option to swap between different beam katana
>easy alternate costumes
>good representative of the Wii / wagglan era
He'd be a natural fit, even if NMH3 was a disappointment.
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>um but what about ice climbers haha gottem
ICs are just one of several retro representatives, which are inherently irrelevant. G&W, ICs, Pit (until Sakurai revived the IP for exactly one 3DS game before being re-retired), ROB, Duck Hunt, Little Mac. They're all representatives of a bygone era of Nintendo, so of course they're irrelevant. It's kind of funny that Little Mac was one of the last to be included, because he's the one who have actually received multiple games over the years.
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If Agumon is added, they should take advantage of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJP_PSfYAo
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>t-they have to be relevant!
>but this character hasn't been relevant
>T-THEY'RE OWNED BY NINTENDO, DOESN'T COUNT
retard.
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>caps lock strawman
I accept your concession. No need to reply.
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>>731747997
>>731750335
Despite anon’s opinion on NMH3, that one and TSA gave him enough moves to have a very diverse moveset
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>i-if i type like a powerscaling death battle retard, i win!
retard
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>ICE CLIMBERS ARE NINTENDO OWNED, SO OF COURSE!
What about King K. Rool?
>Hasn't been in a game since 2008
>Owned by Nintendo
>Was irrelevant
>Wasn't until Bananza did he become a thing again
Eat shit, faggot.
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I just want Dante or Vergil, man.
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>>731751315
He was highly requested on the official Smash ballot, is the main villain of the DK series as >>731711615 noted (1, 2, 3, 64, and the two spin-offs that no one remembers), and was included as a Mii costume in Smash 4. The games where K. Rool was absent were developed not by Nintendo, but by Retro Studios, and Nintendo themselves don't develop many DK games internally.

More importantly, we have no way of knowing whether Nintendo ever truly intended to phase K. Rool out of the DK IP because they didn't develop a true DK game until Bananza, considering the only games they developed in the interim years were the Mairo vs. Donkey Kong games. It could have simply been Retro Studios' decision to use original antagonists in Returns and Tropical Freeze. K. Rool appeared in Mario Super Sluggers in 2008, which was developed by Bandai Namco, so it's not like he couldn't be used.

In other words, the idea that K. Rool was ever irrelevant was just baseless speculation that resulted from Nintendo handing off the DK IP to 3rd party developers, while only developing Mario vs. Donkey Kong in-house.
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>>731711615
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>>731752112
K.Rool was irrelevant for over two decades, you dick.
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>>731752216
>In other words, the idea that K. Rool was ever irrelevant was just baseless speculation that resulted from Nintendo handing off the DK IP to 3rd party developers, while only developing Mario vs. Donkey Kong in-house.
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>>731752243
Yeah and the time Nintendo DIDN'T hand off the IP to someone else, Dickhead?
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>>731752362
They developed a spiritual successor to the original DK games, who is actually irrelevant because no one remembers it. They then proceeded to include King K. Rool as a Mii costume in Smash 4 in 2015. Then they included K. Rool in Smash Ultimate in 2018. Then they included K. Rool in Bananza in 2025, which was the first DK game developed since Tropical Freeze in 2014.
Video game development cycles are just getting longer.
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>>731732302
fucking nice. good shit, anon.
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He's honestly done more to earn a spot than Doomguy
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Online ruined smash.
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>I think Crash gets in just cuz they're out of big third party picks
That's pretty much why I'm saying that they will just ditch third party characters, or at least half of it. There are too many licensed characters and there is no one that is good enough to stand on their own. The other half is Nintendo isn't going to want to do it as they will want Smash to push their own characters and they want you to get hyped for their new character reveals rather than for Crash or Doom Guy
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>>731711615
I don't disagree with you but Sylux was playable in Hunters and had been teased for a while. He'll probably get in solely because they want to push him as Samus's rival (likely why they changed him from hating the Federation to hating Samus specifically)
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>>731656075
It's awesome they added her to this game but it's fucked that she missed out on the aggressive marketing campaign it had when it was launching.
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>>731694321
>>731709445
Mega Man was the best thing of that tournament you faggots
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>>731757480
lmao
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Assist Trophy Edition
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>>731721754
We love Min Min in 2026.
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>>731657218
If I had to choose one I’d choose Bubsy.
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>>731737591
I’d love it. Tantei Club on the SNES is so good.
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>>731656075
>Be Raven Beak
>Retroactively become the main antagonist of the entire series
>Awesome design, Mercury Steam basically already made a smash moveset for him, but he will never be in smash.
>Be Sylux, a loser nobody cares about who only appeared in all the weakest games in the franchise (sans other M), was downright embarrassing in the newest entry.
>Sylux will probably end up in smash because Tanabe really wanted to push him or something and make the next prime games a sylux trilogy (god I hope that gets cancelled)
Only other character that makes me feel the way Sylux makes me feel is Aloy from HZD.
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>>731657894
>Ultimate was already just reheated Smash 4 with minor adjustments and new and returning characters.

Then what is Smash 4 compared to Brawl? The same meal except with a few extra carbs and “in Sakurai’s own analogy” desert?
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>>731663643
I’ll do you one better anon
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>>731663862
God I need it so bad and to handhold her feet while in missionary.
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>>731663959
Give me the Chao
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>>731688801
>tripping
no
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>>731665087
Smash has too many Fire Emblem Types, Sub-Zero would be toast. We need more Ice users.
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>>731666656
Kat & Ana have the advantage of being there since Day 1 unlike Ashley who showed up late.
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>>731666761
Basado
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>>731661372
>>731665792
How would you do Heavy with no guns?
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>>731668481
Bayonetta in Smash aged horribly due to all the the controversy with the 3rd game.

Lara Croft was more deserving looking back in hindsight. I wish Nintendo never funded the franchise in the first place.
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>>731758701
Joker has guns, so.
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>>731656075
I'm conflicted in whether or not I want to fuck her. I mean she's very cute but she's also literally a monkey
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Literally my most wanted never ever 4th Party
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>>731670106
The surge in fan art would increase for Krystal if she got in.
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>>731670732
Toby Fox is always up Sakurai’s ass so I honestly wouldn’t be surprised.
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>>731671643
If it ain’t Bandana Dee it will be Marx.
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>>731671752
No one asked for Piranha Plant and yet we still got that

>>731672684
>The Japanese are very precious about Japanese IPs, and it's rare for them to latch onto Western IPs as aggressively: Moomin, Minecraft, Apex Legends

What about Fortnite?
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>>731656075
Wherrre are you fellow LOUIE bros!?
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>>731673665
My top choices are

>Meowscarada
>Tinkaton
>Ogrepon

And I guess those Megaman Battle Network looking mons.
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>>731757480
Mega Man is just as cancer as every other character than camps you out for 8 minutes. Just because he has to work slightly harder to be a faggot doesn't make him any less of a faggot.
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>>731656075
Considering that my picks were already posted then new and fun game modes
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>>731680393
Even Dante had a similar push too until Byleth blindsided the supporters and finally the Mii Costume sealed the deal.
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>>731745226
FS: He runs away to his cab as Sonata of Awakening plays in the distance, making Sharp, Flat, Captain Keeta Stalchilds and Redeads wreck your shit
NS: He digs and ends up accidentally summoning a Stalchild
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>>731757925
Speak for yourself, I have Hunters nostalgia with Sylux. And his fights were cool.
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>>731760018
>Dantefags really believed Sakurai making a three sign on the thumbnail was because of DMC V and Dante getting in
Kek
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>>731758787
Snake, Bayonetta and Joker all have guns.
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LEON
RAIDEN (MGS)
DANTE
TRAVIS TOUCHDOWN.
i only want cool characters
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>>731761874
What about Luigi?
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>>731656223
Literally the gayest pokemon
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>>731656601
Ultimate was basically already a port of smash 4. I'm not even being a memester. I like ultimate, but it had like no actual content. World of light was fun once. Smash run from 3DS was one of the best game modes they've ever had and they just decided to never bring it back.
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>>731745136
Sakurai doesn't even have the rights to his kirby characters. They CAN make it without him.
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>>731668409
Say what you want about the game but his fights were neat. Plus his theme is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BFaFLKsCKY
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Didnt play Prime 4 and heard it sucked.
How'd they fuck up Sylux in it?
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>>731762541
He only shows up at the end
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>>731757759
>replace FE with FE
Tiki is fine as an AT, so's BK.
Lyn has always been whatever to me but if they find a way for her to replace Lucina it'd be the most legendarily amazing BTFOing ever seen and it'd be completely deserved.
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>>731762651
That's almost every Metroid villain though?
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>>731721640
Kazooie
Tooie
Nuts and Bolts
Pilot
Grunty's Revenge
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>>731764484
Like I said. Four Games to his Name.
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>>731657218
As much as I like mr dremurr, I don't want another trillion years of they discourse
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>>731712282
M I K E
J O N E S ! ! !



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