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Why are steamies approving this?
Why can't they just be Normal People like Tim Sweeney, who is currently planting a million trees for charity and love.
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>Steam is abusing British people
good
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>>731920161
isn't it just because of taxes?
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Steam should pull out of the UK. Follow Pornhub's lead. UK must suffer.
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>>731920161
>bongs don't understand regional pricing
If anything, leafs and straya cunts are far worse off.
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>>731920292
it's because taxes, OP is retarded [astonishing news]
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Bong here, steam don't even set the prices they have recommended prices and the publisher does and ive never felt ripped off even though my currency is usually 3rd highest on steam.
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>>731920161
Just wait until you see polish prices
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>>731920161
Retribution for Games Workshop overcharging everyone else you limey bastard.
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>>731920161
>cutting out the community notes pointing out how retarded he is
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>bongs are retarded
no way
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>british
>people
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>>731920205
fpbp
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>>731920161
TOTAL BRITOID DEATH
KILL EM ALL, GABEN
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>731920161
Developers set regional pricing, but also fuck the UK and her ""people"".
if Valve forced fixed regional pricing, then they'd get sued for that.
But it's also not what the lawsuit is about, it's about a seething developer who was told to stop selling Steam keys (which are generated FOR FREE and Steam takes no cuts) for less than the Steam price.
Essentially undercutting Steam's own store with Steam keys.
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>>731920527
kek how pathetic
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>>731920531
Oi, you got a loicense for that shitpoast, mate?
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>>731920161
Do Brits not know that they have high taxes on goods?
Ask your government why shit is priced so high
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>>731920205
fpbp
fuck britoids
death to perfidious albion
/thread
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UK is legit an Islamo-commie authoritarian state at this stage, they arrest more people for speech than Russia. I don’t know why anyone should have relations with that Paki third-world shithole, let them rot.
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>>731920562
i really like this gif
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>>731920596
>TV license
>internet license
>soon VPN license
What's with that island?
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>>731920404
they should, and they should pull out of eussr as well, they need to suffer even more, get ahead of the curve, everyone is going to be abandoning the jewrozone because of skigger retardation anyways
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>>731920506
Hey now, we hate GW just as much as the burgers.
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>>731920641
shut the fuck up, xull
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>>731920638
>than Russia
blyat pyotr we told you not to mention russia in your agitprop posts because it gives us away
you're gonna get raped in the ass later for this mistake
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>>731920527
Timmy got noted as well lol
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>>731920161
at least the price for GTA 5 is the same
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All of these Steam UK lawsuit posts are government operated distraction teams to stop you from noticing all the surveilance laws they are trying to pass
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yes ivan, we know you're raiding
try to make it less obvious
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>>731920674
seethe bongoloid
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>>731920751
Tim is just gonna ignore that, he will continue lying and funding these lawsuits.
>>731920771
Vidya board.
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NintendoGAF hates the UK because we are historically a Sega-aligned nation.
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Fucking britbongs complaining when I have to pay with the most expensive currency. You don’t see me complaining about it (a lot)
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>>731920161
Just wait until this man discovers why no one buys shit from the UK
Their prices are so inflated that it's usually cheaper to buy from any euro country instead when importing something physical, no matter if you're in the EU or the US.
UK laws and taxes are to blame here, not Steam policies
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We should take a hint from 28 Years Later and turn the United Kuckdoms into a containment zone.
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>>731920638
May Allah have mercy of them
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>enforce fixed pricing
>get sued
>don't enforce fixed pricing
>get sued anyway
what's the winning move?
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>>731920161
The fact that poster shows a discount as if to proof that is the point, proofs how retarded steam droned are.

Valve doesnt set the price, valve doesnt call devs and tells them to lower their price. They do tell devs that they can not sell their games at a lower price anywhere else tho.
How is that a problem? This creates a monopoly that hits the end user. An indie dev is not alowed to sell their games on their own store front without the steam cut. So a dev has to ask 20,- instead of 15,40 it would cost without steams grab.

Also 9/10 times, if game released at the same time on console as it did on pc, you will see that same 90% off on console stores
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>>731920674
>eussr
Hadn't realized that you can work it into English too, since I personally default to the CCCP initialism. I've been calling it EUvostoliitto for a while now, with the same reference.
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>>731920161
Since when does steam dictate the prices for games available there?
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>>731920161
>Doesn't know what VAT is
Complain to the Government instead of bitching to steam if you're so upset then
What is Gabe supposed to do about UK tax?
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>>731920674
>the jewrozone
the only pro-israel countries in the western world are the us and the uk lol
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>>731920161
I thought Bri'ish bugmen love being abused by their betters.
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>>731921026
Sorry, I'm not in the habit of larping as a muzzie on the 4chins
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Why are British people still here? Weren't they supposed to be walled off from 4chan?
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>>731921326
They do.
Don't fall for their pleas for mercy. It's part of the act.
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>>731920161
Pretty sure devs get to pick whether they agree with steam's suggested regional pricing or not.
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>>731921189
>They do tell devs that they can not sell their games at a lower price anywhere else tho.
This has only ever applied to selling Steam Keys.
Which is fair, because Valve gets nothing from those.
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I have reported this thread to the Queen's constabularies
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>>731921283
Anglos really are the root of all evil.
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>>731921189
I don't remember seeing anywhere Steam forcing developers to use their storefront tho. Because *that* would be monopoly.
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>>731920161
Because of VAT
American prices are notoriously without taxes, so they need to add taxes to the shown price
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>>731921189
Yeah, poor indies who have to sell their games on a platform used by millions daily that gives them exposure and lets them sell unfinished alpha/beta versions freely instead of having to pick some web-based peepeepoopoo store that will trap them in a jewish publishing contract and tell them to sell games for 40 dollars. Those heccin innocent indie deverinos who were forced to succeed and get actual sales through Valve's cruelty.
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>>731920161
britishers deserve it
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>>731921412
>Queen's
-10,000 Big Ben Credits
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>>731921263
Airstrip One residents doesn't even know what the fuck their politicians do, let alone what the fuck their taxes are.
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>>731920161
took brits 20 years to realize prices are different in every country sametimes even for the same currency
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>>731920161
>Brits
>Human
Lmao
Civil war in what, 5 years?
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So is this another case of Europeans bullying of US tech company or kikes being kikes?
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>>731920161
Good morning sir.
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I hope Steam would just leave UK market all together
forcing bongcuck to go through EU channel to buy games from steam
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>>731921736
prety sure its some bong woman trying for gibbs
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>>731921736
AS1 whore trying to get money (AS1 residents are retards thinking they are smart)
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>>731921736
it's a Tim Sweeney funded lawsuit against Valve, where it lies about Valve enforcing microtransactions to be on their platform only.
Even though it's not like that on the
OSRS, FF14, Path of Exile, etc..
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>>731920161
Fuck the UK.
I hope it burns to the fucking ground and drowns all the cuck ass brits and the mudslimes they let into their country to throw acid on their stupid slutty women who will suck cock for monopoly money.
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>>731921697
>Civil war
no the rothschilds are just fueling popular anger for fun and chaos, but they won't allow a full civil war
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>>731921697
They are unironically feuding over the recent propaganda game and the hot purple haired girl on national television.
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>>731921859
based Timmy
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>Steam
>Monopoly

Steam is not a monopoly in the eyes of the law, and that can be easily argued even by the freshest retard lawyer straight out of law school.
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>>731920161
Considering how most problems today are a byproduct of british colonialism, good. Fuck the anglos.
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>>731920161
Am I retarded or does Valve not choose the prices? What the fuck is this complaint?
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Can someone give me a QRD
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>>731920751
That note is also bullshit, if you sell your game in any other platform outside of steam, their tos states that you have to price the same, including sales. If you don't you get banned, so shut the fuck up amerimutt fat fuck retard.
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>>731921949
>>731921854
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>>731921949
Retard makes retarded statement on twatter.
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>>731921963
so where is the proof?
their guidelines don't say this, they only mention steam keys
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>>731921925
>Considering how most problems today are direct result of JUDAISM
Fixed that for you, you're welcome
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>>731921949
Jews are still fucking fuming that Valve is a private company, so they're blowing up news about a literallywho british court case that will go nowhere.
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>>731920161
Isn't this just publishers being jews?
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>>731921963
Pull up the relevant steam TOS entry then?
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>>731921925
>Whuaite peepo are the ones to blame for why my 3rd world shithole still doesn't have roads, the rivers are full of plastic, and rape is the number 1 way new births occur.

The colonized never learn. They only seethe in impotent rage at their own worthlessness.
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>>731920587
That lawsuit is such idiotic dogshit. Dev is allowed to charge whatever he wants on whatever platform or store he wants, all valve said is all steam activation keys must be the same price, and you agree to that when you sell with them. Valves position is so simple, reasonable and legally sound ... so I'm sure the uk will fuck the pooch on it
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>>731921949
UK residents are mad at high prices and blame Steam instead of their government, who is actually responsible
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>>731921932
They don't pick the prices for each individual game but you have a system as a developer to basically "auto fair pricing" for each region, I do have it enabled. You put a base price in USD and it gets lower or higher for each country.
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>>731921949
Government operatives are spamming the board with this nothing burger lawsuit to distract all the normies from the mass surveilance campaign
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>>731922020
>Kikes are seething about a private company

I'm honestly proud of Gaben. Jews should get gassed. All of them. Every single fucking one.
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>>731920527
>can create a game and make bongs pay thousands in their currency
thanks Gabe!
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>>731920161
I mean, regional pricing has always been a thing on steam, no? If a UK wagie earns £18 an our he is already earning more than a US wagie making $18 so they should be charged more.
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>>731922074
>UK residents are mad at high prices and blame Steam instead of their government
No we're not, never been mad about the prices on steam related to valve at least
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>>731922090
>THE UK IS A SHITHOLE thread
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT ABOUT THE UK BEING A SHITHOLE
what do you want? its at least vidya related
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>>731920161
meanwhile, sony
>$70
>£70
>70 Euros
thats
>$70
>$90
>$98
respectively.
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>"You can put your game on Steam and other storefronts as well, but if you do this you're not allowed to make it cheaper exclusively outside of Steam so as to avoid advertising another platform over ours"
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH THIS IS EEVVVILLLLLLLLLLL
??? This just makes sense.
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>>731922150
>
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>>731921542
>they have a town called middlesex
lol
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>>731922172
It's funny how Timmy never comments on Sony or Nintendo, when they don't even allow alternative options.
>>731922202
It also only applies to STEAM KEYS that are generated FOR FREE.
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>>731920839
>pedogafs
>tednies instead of snoys
pick one and only one, retard
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>>731922248
Because Timmy would be nuked for defamation for the half of the shit he said about steam
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>>731922238
>DA JOOOOOOOOZ MADE THIS THREAD
time to go home, pablo.
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>>731920161
This is why I can trust Gabe, he does what we all want to.
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>Thank you master Gaben, no need for payment I do it for free
>Actually, can I pay YOU?
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>>731920161
I fucking hate the br*tish. They deserve the hell country they have created for themselves. More people should bully them.
This very website is sueing the UK.
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>>731922056
I was more referring to how two former british colonies produced people like Trump and Musk, but sure. This is a /pol/ subforum anyway at this point, so you're only gonna laugh at my post anyway.
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>>731922039
>So where's the proof
I have my game on steam you retarded faggots.
https://news.justia.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Complaint-in-Elliott-et-al-v.-Valve-Corporation.pdf
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Isn't it because of taxes? When i made my american PSN account i had to trial and error each State because extra feed kept appearing on checkout, i think Oregon is still the one tax free.
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>>731921189
>Valve doesnt set the price
Then why is the fucking price tag for all steam games in polish currency approximately 15% higher than in currency of every other fucking country on earth bar fucking switzerland?

Is gayben really that salty about GOG?
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>can't do shit
>resorts to ad hominem
ggez no re brownie
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>>731921949
Predatory Lawsuit, check "steam you owe us". They're hoping to punch valve hoping it drop money for them. It's not about you or me
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>>731922421
so its not in the ToS...?
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>>731922248
because he's sony biggest fanboy, he was practically shilling for them for years
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>>731920161
Are these values factoring in that Americans don't add VAT to the price of things? They add it afterwards for some confusing reason.
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>>731922421
Not a fucking calinigger complaint...
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>>731922294
>Post a merchant
>Immediately goes for a jews tried and true method of calling you brown
It really is that easy to identify (((them)))
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>Get caught using AI to make up bullshit legal claims and documents
>Valve catches you lacking
>Backpedal and blame an intern for it all

Jews are fucking pathetic. Absolutely fucking disgusting subhuman creatures. They can't do anything other than lie and make shit up.
Fucking hell, how the fuck are they not extinct yet? There is thousands of years of history that proves they can't be trusted. That they deserve to be removed from this planet.
What the actual fuck is it going to take lmao.
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>>731922421
>year and a half old article from literally who
that isn't proof, hysterical-kun
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>Make their tos statements vague on purpose so they can't be hold accountable for their actions
>THEY ARE NOT SAYING THEY ARE RAPING ME EXPLICITLY SO THEY MUST NOT BE RAPING ME
Hilarious amerishart cucks.
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>>731920292
>isn't it just because of taxes?
>>731920476
>it's because taxes,
when you account for taxes, it still doesnt line up always, but its much closer than it looks because mutts dont like to show you what you actually pay

tax in UK is 20% and included in all shown prices, so, their base price is presented price divided by 120, *100
US taxes range, from basically fucking 0 at 4% to like, an average of 14%

so lets take BF6
uk base price is (60/120 *100) £50. US price is basically the same
fair pricing

GTA5
14.99 is £12.50 base
US is £10.85, so, unfair, UK are paying at least 20% more.

Terraria
£8.50 is £7.08
US is 7.23, so, fair pricing.

Yakuza is
£55, so $45.80
US is 43.45, so, slightly unfair.

as you see it varies, the real issue is LAZY pricing combined with US not doing tax inclusion
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>>731922571
their parasitical nature ensures their survival. lowest form of human means the least amount of effort required to keep existing.
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>>731922503
It's because it varies by state, America is so large that just having a flat 10, 15, or 20% makes no sense, what works economically in one area would ruin another.

Not to mention their politics allows negotiating.

Even in the UK, for someone like me living in a small town in Scotland, I think the flat 20% is just a London tax. (I hope Russia nukes them)
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>>731920161
They should check prices in Poland then kek.
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>>731922421
ahaha faggot
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>>731922571
>Fucking hell, how the fuck are they not extinct yet?
Christianity/Islam exist. Biggest fucking defenders of them are the high priests
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>>731920161

Good.

Bob's your uncle, limeys!
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>Wolfire has been trying to sue Steam since 2021 over not being able to sell Steam keys cheaper
how do they have the money for this?
hmmmm
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>>731920161
>richest island nation in the world
>if not one of the richest nations in all of human history
Get fucked you limey cunts I hope your entire island is reduced to a glass floor
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>>731920404
>pornjew defeated in the UK
>literally crushed completely in one month
>suffering
Yeah they should probably give out tax free gender surgery from African owned healthcare practices too right fellow gamers?
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>>731920161
>Normal People like Tim Sweeney
Lol, lmao even. Sweenies are delusional.
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>>731920161
that worthless little island, triple the price
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>>731920161
this but unironically, kill yourself cocksucker, gabe is not your friend and he's not gonna let you ride on the yatch
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>>731922437
>the standard Value added Tax (VAT) rate on video games in Poland is 23%
I don't know
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>>731922737
>>richest island nation in the world
>>if not one of the richest nations in all of human history
How did you come to this delusion?
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>>731922667
>I hope Russia nukes them
It would ruin our economy, but it might be a price worth paying
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>>731920161
Why is this britbong so retarded he just unprompted started seething about price sin his region while replying to something completely unrelated?
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>>731922753
>my falseflag didn't work? better reply to myself pretending someone fell for it
absolutely embarrassing lmao
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>>731922405
>former british colonies produced two successful businessmen
This is a disaster! Thank god that the American Revolutionaries came from Egypt and Neptune
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>>731922786
VAT has nothing to do with retarded prices in Poland. Currency conversion is stuck on absurd rate since covid.
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>>731920161
This is true, i'm sick of game companies ripping off Europeans
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>>731922821
Probably some turdworlder thinking the state of his life is all due to bongs making them use the toilet or some shit
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>>731920161
The British are annoying retards.
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>>731922928
>american makes $6k a month
>pays $70 for vidya
>euro makes €2k a month (same urchasing power for every other good)
>pays €70 for vidya
even with taxes, this shit is ridiculous because it ONLY happens with vidya
it's just greedy publishers wanting to enforce the same number worldwide and knowing yuros will bear it
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>>731923042
Why is this website so obsessed with a british bogyman?
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>>731920161
>Tim Sweeney, who is currently planting a million trees for charity and love
Tim Sweeney is actually digging for cool rocks to add to his collection.
Someone just thought to follow him and fill the holes back in with a tree sapling after he is done playing.
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>>731923207
That's what I've been wondering too. Ugly brownoids, probably?
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>>731923181
So basically your currency is toilet paper and if they sold vidya at 33% value they would make dogshit in return? Maybe it's because games aren't something you can just make in a turd world sweatshop for cheaper and sell them in a first world country nor are they an essential good so you just get buggered in the bum
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>>731920205
Bongstani's deserve everything for letting themselves get so thoroughly invaded
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>>731920161
This is for Lotus Group you assholes
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>>731921283
And France, Italy, Germany and Russia.
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just buy from keystores bro.
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>>731922281
Where do you think we are?
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>>731923615
Why even buy if you're going to do that?
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>>731920161
Britain is ruled by jews, so they try & pull another sneaky on Gaben. Him kicking ass against Rothschild in court left a lot of people salty after all.
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>>731923496
>So basically your currency is toilet paper
But enough about USD.
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>>731920161
Is the UK economy based on sueing American companies? kek
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>>731923496
>So basically your currency is toilet paper
you realize a lower amount of money having the same purchasing power means the currency is stronger, right dipshit?
learn to read
here, have a billion zimbabwean dollars!
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haha fuck the british fellow american sir
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>>731920161
So they should adjust every price for every currency in real time as they fluctuate in value against the dollar? Pretty retarded desu.
Also don't some third world countries pay less than the US? Should we start a lawsuit about that too?
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>>731923496
>So basically your currency is toilet paper
Did trump dumped the ushart dollaridoo even further? Guess he wants parity with the rupee.
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>>731922636
>lazy pricing
Exchange rates vary constantly. Pound for example has gone from 1.24 USD a pound to 1.38 USD a pound in a year. Do you want devs to be constantly updating prices, or tie game prices to a specific currency and have them vary on a daily basis?
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All I really care about is this;
>Friend has game on Wishlist
>Try to buy it them
>Steam refuses because it would lose them money if I bought it them instead of them buying it themselves
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that's the same with everything. i bet japanese or some other weak currency get those games for about £10
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>>731923968
Steam should update these globaly like once per year. They fucking SAID THEY WILL DO IT AND THEYRE STUCK SINCE 2020.
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>>731921963
Do you have any examples of games getting banned from Steam for that?
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>>731923968
and when was 1 USD = 1 GBP?
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is he wrong?
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>>731924004
I just bought my thirdie friend a game that was way cheaper in USD than his currency wdym?
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Goddamn, so many seething, smelly browns and other assorted thirdies crowded into one thread.
Shame the jannies are trannies or they could clean up the board in no time.
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>>731924082
I don't see how that is relevant because most of the difference is accounted for by VAT.
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>>731923539
Not everyone rolled over without a fight
God bless and RIP Philip Luty. A man who the government harrassed for the rest of his life because he refused to let the government steal his guns and his right to bear arms
UK government (long since ruled by kikes btw) hates the idea of the goyim being free to defend themselves against threats, foreign and domestic. Once they finally pushed him into his grave they went after his family next
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>>731924101
Yes.
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It must suck to be valve where you do nothing so people just have to make shit up to seethe at you about. Then other people join them because its opportunistic to do so. Timmy is just a lying hypocrite and the best example but this UK lawsuit is literally being done by a litigious company that has been suing game companies for year hoping for a settlement instead of a win.
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>>731924101
Valve is a company, they give you a service, they take a cut. If the problem is the 30%, how much would be adequate?
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>>731924365
>make shit up
The prices ARE retarded you fucking mongoloid.
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>>731924101
Steam is the sole reason why pc gaming is still relevant today.
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>>731924439
>VAT is retarded
blame your government
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>>731923697
what do you mean? I'm not gonna pirate online multiplayer games
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>>731924472
Its not VAT you cocksucker.
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>>731924439
Ok? Go ask the people who set the prices then a.k.a. the publishers.
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>>731923697
It hurts the dev, it's worse than piracy.
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>>731924439
The prices are set by the devs how is this steam's fault? In fact the whole "abusing regional prices to get a discount" trick valve used to have for a decade went away because devs bitches about people buying their games at converted rates using third world currencies.
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>>731924439
>The prices ARE retarded you fucking mongoloid.
So you yell at Steam who has no control of what publishers charge?
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>>731924630
You actually pay a mark up when still running patents are involved. Is this dude retarded?
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>british government full of gay retarded traitors
>tax steam sales because they're retarded communists
>gayben charges them more as a fuck you
reciprocity
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>>731924678
Yes. Default currency conversion is stuck at inflated covid levels.
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>900mil
Unironically, who is going to get money?
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>>731920674
Remind me again, who was declaring the people already fighting bolshevism their greatest enemy?
Who was buddy-buddy with Stalin before they got into some retarded dickwaving contest afterwards?
Who has been exporting cultural marxism ever since?
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>>731924754
Israel
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>>731924754
The british government will use it to finance more rape gangs and knife crime against whites
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>>731924804
But shouldn't gamers get their money back if it's lawsuit for their sake?
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>>731924630
Just don't put it on steam if you can do everything steam does cheaper?
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Valvejeets on full motion
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>>731920292
VAT is 20% which doesn't account for the difference. The UK has always been fucked on pricing despite being poor and underpaid. I just stopped buying new games like a decade ago because they already cranked the prices to 80+ dollars and since 5 years ago it's now 100 dollars per game. This is a third world country.
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>>731924860
>Thanks for yer 'elp is suing valve
>'eres ya cut. A whoppin twenny quid for ye troubles
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Pretty much, Sweeney even said the pc is dead some years ago - now they are all complaining like little bitches
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steam doesnt set the prices, publishers do. how is this case even being entertained?
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>>731924750
>>tax steam sales because they're retarded communists
You do realize you pay sales tax on Steam for any US state that mandates sales tax too, right? Lots of countries mandate Valve collect sales tax for anything they sell on Steam. This is not a Britain only thing.
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>>731924630
>what is a service vs a good
How can leftists actually be this retarded?
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Steam monopoly should die for EGS monopoly!
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>>731924101
>really rooting for you guys to put out a quality alternative to steam
>quality
>EGS
also
>forgetting that Valve made PC gaming a worthwhile investment for developers with Steam
before Steam, PC gaming was abandoned by all companies including Timmy.
>>731924630
>What does Valve do with that money?
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
it's a mystery.
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>Don't worry UK citizens
>I am here to help!
I'm sure bongs are relieved once again their government has come to their rescue
Don't you wish we had an NHS like Britain does my fellow Americans? We should really and try emulate more British policies they're really leading the way on protecting children from the online dangers of misinformation and harmful pornography
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>>731924630
>how dare the service provider demand that i pay to use the service
im more and more convinced that having a twitter account must automatically reduce one's IQ to the singular digits
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>>731924927
False. By default Steam will automatically set regional prices to not be based on exchange rate but "purchasing power" for that region. Steam by default will fuck over certain regions.
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>>731920527
>Bongs are significantly poorer than burgers
>They universally overpay for everything
I'm failing to see the counter argument.
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>>731920161
Britfags fucked us with tea in 1773 and now we're fucking them with vidya in 2026
AMERICA
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>>731924875
Don’t bother. Fanboys will be fanboys. They’d rather let their spite for Epic Games blind them to the harm done to developers. Mostly because gamers don’t give a shit about developers to begin with. They only care about the games.
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>>731924927
The company behind the lawsuit has a history of suing companies, dragging the case out as long as possible, and farming the settlement money. They already did this same dance with playstation.
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>>731920161
Bongs deserve all the misery in the world, for being the kike's main base of operation against whitekind up until WW2.

Based Steam, raise their prices!
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>>731924630
An entire infraestructure of servers that have to survive being pounded by millions of users every day is more than "a bit of bandwith".
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>>731925084
steam recommends prices but the developers can list their price to be whatever. blame all the scummy legislation adding all kinds of taxes and duties which artificially inflates the cost digital goods which is the real factor behind upping prices.
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>>731924630
Does this retard not understand all stores do this for everything sold?
Those devs are more than welcome to not use a storefront
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>>731922730
I feel like it's just a five year long cope that Overgrowth wasn't as successful as he thought it would be and that by the time the full version came out everyone forgot it even existed.
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>>731925196
Shouldn't they pay compesnation to companies for that shit?
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>>731925225
Don't defend this shit.

By default, Valve doesn't go by exchange rate. To go by exchange rate you have to manually do every single region yourself and you also you have to manually update it periodically because exchange rate fluctuates.

Valve set it up so doing anything but bullshit price fixing is a major pain in the ass.
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>>731924860
gamers get to play horde mode in their own home towns now
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>>731924964
Mate, they think farmers need to be purged and that food comes from the supermarket
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>>731924101
He's right and we know this because valve offered better cuts to AAA games that actually had the marketing weight to sell elsewhere, indie devs have no real choice but to eat the 30%. This is a regressive tax on the poorest developers.
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>>731925095
>Bongs are significantly poorer than burgers
It's the other way around tho.
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>>731924908
Well then maybe they shouldn't have a cutrency that's worth more than the ALMIGHTY US DOLLAR.
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>>731920161
The UK is a terror state, it's a good thing if they suffer
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>>731924860
No it'd be more fiscally responsible to award it directly to the government, people will get it back in the form of infrastructure and public services
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>>731920161
Are they going to sue supermarkets who sell the same products in other parts of the world at lower prices?
Same shit, fucking britfags
Also, that price difference is because the players didn't got their gayming loicense
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>>731925383
>offered better cuts to AAA games
to successful games of any budget, because then the game has already paid for it's services for a lifetime
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>>731925182
>Mostly because gamers don’t give a shit about developers to begin with. They only care about the games.
True and the only correct position for the gamer. I don't care about your cut, just what I have to personally pay. If all of gaming died today and never recovered there's still enough games to cover multiple lifetimes available. Missing out is not a deal breaker.
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>>731925394
20% of Britain is below the poverty line. Only 10% of the US is.

Britain is so fucked these days it's insane.
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>>731920205
FPBP
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>>731925325
valve doesnt force you to sell at a certain price. debate over.
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How the fuck was GB not region blocked from this site? Didn't their retarded gov try to fine this site?
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>>731925041
His solution would be to just ban video games out right and tax us heavily to cover the hole in the economy it would make. Wouldn't be surprised if that was on the table already
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>>731925224
A developer who releases a tiny indie game that is 5mb in size and sells 1000 copies should not need to pay to subsidise AAA games that are 200gb large and have tens of millions of downloads (who also get a deal that lowers the 30% take)
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Tim totally paid UK shitters to sue Valve.
How low can that man go? I wouldn't be surprised if he seriously thought of hiring a hitman, that fucking bastard
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>default conversion STILL set at covid's 1usd - 5zł
There's no point of buying directly from steam anymore.
MGS3 btw.
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>>731925578
>Didn't their retarded gov try to fine this site?
No.

EU and Australia did.
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>>731924102
Depending on exchange rates, I can't purchase games for friends in Brazil, Philippines or Finland. Its annoying,
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Why does Timmy want to have Fortnite on Steam so badly?
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>>731921542
>Britishers
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>>731925041
I'm thankful for the NHS because if it hadn't been invented I'd have probably had my foreskin cut off when I was a baby
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>>731925648
This is why I made 2nd account in other country, fuck volvo.
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>>731920161
lol imagine being a dumb fag bad teeth big forehead brit
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>>731925679
oh, you can thank devs for that. You used to be able to do that until enough of them bitched at Valve to close that loophole. The change was like a year ago irrc and the seethe in threads was funny since tons of poorfags were abusing it (why not just pirate at that point idk).
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>>731921697
>He says while posting the picture of a British man.
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>>731925394
No it isn't.
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>>731925665
Nah the retarded brits are trying it too with Ofcom to force sites to comply with their gay online safety act.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyjq40vjl7o
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>>731920205
BREXIT MEANS BREXIT
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>>731925774
>be UK
>borderline failed state
>make retarded online safety laws
>try to fine websites not hosted in the UK
>have no way of enforcing this
>only way to get these fines is to spam nasty emails and intimidate site owners
its amazing how retarded, impotent, and desperate the UK government is lmao
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>>731925383
Except that's a blatant lie. Valve uses a tier system based on earnings, not whether or not the dev is AAA, AA, or indie. Fuck, you could even argue it's more advantageous to indie devs since the indie game market is actually flourishing whereas the AAA industry is steadily going down the shitter with flop after flop after flop.
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>>731925774
Steam brought that upon themselves by deciding to sell porn. Gabe never should have caved on that. He was right when he said "Porn has no place on Steam."
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>>731921075
To close down so that government backed corporations can take over and completely fuck the consumer raw.
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>>731925774
Actually the Brits are trying to force 4chan to hand over all their user data on users because some are British that means the UK government get to look at US citizens too
Because their gay UK law said they can
>4chan+Kiwifarms: Uh no fuck off retard
>We'll show you
>Wikipedia, you gott-
>Wikipedia: No fuck you retards, go ahead and block wikipedia lmao lets see how that goes lol
>Oh no, no, no, no they weren't supposed to do that they were just supposed to give free money and spy on their users
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>>731925498
AAA Devs use disproportionately more bandwidth and are more likely to reach these thresholds because of their inflated marketing budget. It's hardly a "fair" situation when indies are subsidising AAA
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>>731920161
lol get fucked Starmer
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>>731924101
>really rooting for you guys
>rooting for the guy most vocal about PC gaming being a dead end market and bringing console exclusivity faggotry to PC
you sure pick you aliegences
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>>731925923
>Valve uses a tier system based on earnings
That is not true at all.

I can tell you right now the major multi-national publisher I work for gets a sweet deal regardless of the game's earnings because that's what we negotiated with Valve.
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discovering taxes i see
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>>731920161
The world should isolate UK like in 28years later because of the jeets virus
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>>731925868
yup, what they are doing is similar to tantrum of a 2 year old kid
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>>731920161
>British """"people""""
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>>731920161
Just pirate brit bro.
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>>731925868
>its amazing how retarded, impotent, and desperate the UK government is lmao
They called Amelia a hate symbol recently
You know the propaganda they made? Hate symbol now because they lost complete control of the narrative
It's like how on Tiktok saying Zionist is bannable offence but only if you use it in a negative way, if you're a proud Zionist then it's fine
Just like if you talk about how whites are becoming a minority in their own homelands, it's only hatespeech if you say it like its a bad thing
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>>731926001
>indies are subsidising AAA
nobody believes this
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>>731926039
>I can tell you right now the major multi-national publisher I work for gets a sweet deal regardless of the game's earnings because that's what we negotiated with Valve.
Sure thing, bro. I'm guessing you can't say what that multi-national publisher is because it'd jeopardize your position with the company because you're under a strict NDA or some shit but we should totally just believe you.
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>>731921963
If I'm running a store, I'm not gonna let people put up adverts on their products saying 'come to the other store to buy this cheaper'.
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>>731925957
They will just block it eventually, UK got all uppity without any hardware solutions to what they want to do, so it is a lot of empty threats till they get DPI machines in and then the fun begins.
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Isn't the UK doing an Albania speedrun where they make the country exponentially shittier while totally isolating it from the rest of the world?
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>>731926294
It's Ubisoft. Valve get 2%.
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>>731920161
does gabe need a license?
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>>731926514
No?
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Bros.... we're going to lose the games we own... oh wait...
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>>731926475
they thought messing with 4chan and kiwi was an easy win and a way to prove ofcom was a good tool to invest in. nothing worked so they are mad.
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>>731922172
Your conversions are all fucked up
70 euros is 83 dollars not 98
70 pound is 96 dollars not 90
Unless your point is that Sony makes those retarded conversion in which case ignore me.
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>>731926475
>so it is a lot of empty threats till they get DPI machines in and then the fun begins.
Nah days ago they said they're gonna ban VPN's instead as their solution
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>>731920161
Good.
That's for colonizing half of the world and stealing shit for their museums
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>>731920161
>Hordes of niggers raping in the streets
Oy vey stop being racist
>Games cost money
Wow this is literally genocide, big brother save us!
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>>731926638
I wonder what they are gonna do when they realise that a lot of cloudbased servers use VPN's and their own government uses them as well.
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>>731920205
this bong deserve everything for not signing the peace deal hopefully you guys get raped by arabs.
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>>731926280
It is objectively true that indie games are subsidising the bandwidth use that overwhelmingly goes to AAA games that are larger and on average sell more at a better revenue split. Some retarded asset store slop that sells 5 copies takes no bandwidth, an indie game that sells 10k copies at 200mb also takes no bandwidth. Silksong that sells a billion copies also takes barely any bandwidth compared to something like COD which is often 200+ GB in size.

Bandwidth costs are the biggest argument in favour of the 30% store fee but it's kind of bullshit when you look into it.
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>>731925041
I'm not even a bong and I hate this cunt like you wouldn't fucking believe, more than any other politician
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>>731926079
The US has a much worse problem because they run your entire tech sector which is now in control of the government, in the UK they only run corner shops and grocery stores.
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>>731924101
>it's valve's fault my shitty 60 dollar asset flip that takes an hour to finish didn't sell like hotcakes
Skill issue faggot.
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>>731926001
The only games getting subsidized on Steam are those which don't sell many copies (old games for example are a big offender as are delisted games) and those which are f2p without mtx. They still use bandwidth and disk space on Steams "cloud" but don't bring any revenue.
AAA slopware sells millions of copies which more than covers any infrastructure costs.
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>>731920161
britbong left EU, US is exporting games, doesn't matter if they're digital, britbongs have a crooked teeth tax applied to imported goods, simple maths
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>>731925739
I would imagine its better than being an overweight faggot that has to worry about being shot 24/7 and not being able to afford health care
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>>731926626
4chan would be an easy win, they're just fucking retarded. All they need to do is offer Chinkmoot 40 bucks for every scrap of data on every 4chan user and he'll do it in a heartbeat. No need to bring up British laws or whatever, as far as Chinkmoot's concerned laws don't apply to him anyway.
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To be fair, British people started it.
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>Apparently the IQ on this board is now so low they can't differentiate between a government and the people.
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>>731927447
the government is elected by the people, so it represents them
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>>731927145
Are you 90 years old, do you not know how a harddrive functions? You don't pay anything to keep a 50mb retro game sitting on a harddrive. It costs valve absolutely nothing to keep these tiny ass games sitting on a server, the 100 dollars you pay to upload it in the first place will cover 100 years of what it costs valve to store it. What actually costs valve money is active bandwidth use which all goes to large, popular AAA products and this cost is probably overstated too in order to justify the 30% split
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>>731927503
Not how it works even remotely, you should know that because of whatever third world shithole you live in represents all you street shitters right?
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>>731925041
Treason used to be a punishable offense.
Now with Jews in your government, you're kicked out if you don't take bribes or rape children so they can put you on a blackmail list to ensure you're compromised enough for them to sleep at night without worrying about the possibility of opposition.

You think I'm joking, don't you?
Lmao...
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>>731925648
So basically I should lower my game's price in polish currency because the auto balance shit is fucked, no?
Gonna look that up asap for my polish bros.
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>>731927154
That is not what is happening at all and even if it was that would be even worse, it would mean they were paying import tax on domestically produced products like GTA
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>>731927578
>Treason used to be a punishable offense.
We've gotten ridiculously soft on crime lately.

Bring back the death penalty for theft!
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>>731927578
No we all know our governments are run by child raping satan worshipping jews
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>>731922005
The current shill line is literally "it's illegal to provide proof because everyone who puts a game on Steam has to sign an NDA and no one anywhere ever has breached this NDA"
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>>731927513
Are you 90 years old? Do you not know that if you have 1000TB of data you need to pay a lot more for hardware than if you had 100TB of data instead?
I know you're a poor consumer faggot so you don't know that hard drives are something that suffers attrition in a datacenter context, but fuck - you don't have to be that stupid. Steam also has CDNs all over the world, so the data isn't localized to a single data center. Every single byte of data that they store costs them money to store in multiple locations of the world. Even if it is not a huge cost when you look at an individual game that has maybe 500MB of data to store, Steam has hundreds of thousands of games not just 1. Also, to say it costs them absolutely nothing is levels of retarded I am unable to comprehend. Even to a home user there is cost associated with 50MB of data, to say it costs literally nothing is so fucking ignorant it's unbelievable. These games are objectively and irrefutably subsided.

Bandwidth is nowhere near as expensive as you think it is either.
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>>731922421
LMAOOOOO
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>>731920161
Based on shitty conversion rates alone I deserve that 30 bong lawsuit stimmy.
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>>731920161
Once again, I am reminded that brits is a shithole of a country filled with subhumans regardless of race and spectrum.
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>>731924908
>>731922636
36.21*1.2 = 43.44, so you're paying 1.5 less than you should
29*1.2 = 34.8, so you're paying 19 cents more (wow)
50.7*1.2 = 60.84 so you're paying 85 cents less than you should
7.23 * 1.2 = 8.67 so you're paying 17 cents less than you should


the only ones you get fucked are GTA & Yakuza and even then it's just a few bucks
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>>731920205
This. Fuck bongs
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>>731928569
>19 cents
I'm below the poverty line nigga
I need those 19 cents
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>>731920161
companies set their own prices on steam, you can only bitch at valve for the pricing of their own games if anything
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>>731928273
So how much does it cost to keep a retro game 50mb file in storage for a year? 1 cent? Oh no actually it's 1000% more than that because you have to store it all over the world (you don't) and it's now 10cent per year what a travesty, in 1000 years it's going to cost valve more than the 100 dollars fee to upload it.

>Bandwidth is nowhere near as expensive as you think it is either.
So we agree the 30% cut is bullshit based on fuck all cost to run the service.
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>>731928694
You don't need video games.
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>>731928807
You're right
I need AR18's + 5.56 + Weapon manuals for AR18
Please and thank you
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I hate british "people" so fucking much it's unreal
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>>731920161
Dumb nigger literally explains why in their own post. Euros and dollars are not equal. That's not steams fault it's their own fucking government.
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>>731925370
The average American farmer grows basedbeans to sell to other countries and constantly begs the government for gibs despite having 7 digit net worths. We don't need them
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>>731922246
It’s not a town it’s a county well it used to be one before it became part of Greater London. There’s other counties that end with sex so it’s not that odd we also have East Sussex, West Sussex and Essex
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>>731920161
Do yourself a favor and don't look up CAD prices on Steam...
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>>731924101
>>731924630
Timmy is not sending his best
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>>731922437
Aww here comes the little polska crying over pennies, AGAIN. Fucking crybabies the lot of you, maybe if you stopped being a literal third world country that jails people for the victimless non-crime of fucking blasphemy you wouldn't be paying extra.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/search/?q=price+poland

I would add a literal "Religious Freedom Tax" to any game I sell in Poland.
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>>731929349
>Timmy posting

You're brown.
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>>731929119
lol sus sex
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>>731929732
okay Timmy
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>>731928569
>If you ignore the games that are fucking you on regional prices you aren't getting fucked
No shit Sherlock, I was talking about new AAA games. Look at doom the dark ages it's £70 in the UK and $70 US even with VAT that's $12 more. This is how it is with AAA and has been for over a decade.
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>>731928780
More than 0 dollars, just like it costs me more than 0 dollars to upload 50MB over the Internet. Just stop coping and realize how stupid you are. It doesn't cost 100s of millions of dollars to distribute and store AA slop and Steam easily makes that much on the more popular slop. Nobody is subsidizing that.
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>>731929794
>Account based in
>India
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>>731920161
Based Steam
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>>731929968
It's costs them 100 dollars to upload the fucking game, steam isn't subsidising anything, you brought up this retarded talking point and now you want to backpedal. So you're telling me it costs valve fuck all to distribute their games? They why the fuck are they charging 30%
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>>731930147
>Account based in
>China
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>>731930147
>>731930345
Mom, Dad...stop fighting.
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>>731922636
Sales tax varies in the US by state. That's why it isn't shown. For example, I don't pay tax on digital goods in my state.
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>>731920205
FPBP
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>>731928780
Obviously there is more then just storage costs
That said I feel everyone should drop their cut to 20% these days (including consoles) as this isn't the early 2000s anymore.
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>>731930345
>Thirdie lacks all self-awareness

Shocker.
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>>731921283
Germany is strongly pro-Israel, they got buckbroken hard
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>>731920161
>why are britts charged more
To pay for the lawsuit.
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>>731930843
okay Timmy
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>>731930758
Then we agree, 20% is reasonable. If anyone uses the excuse of bandwidth costs then I retain my stance that it's retarded because indie is subsidising AAA through the 30% cut "to pay for server costs".
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poles are the ones fucked over tho???
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>>731920161
free health care
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>>731931036
I would be really curious how much of Valve's revenue comes from the 30% compared to the lower thresholds.
I don't imagine its that large since any game getting the 25-20% by nature of the getting that cut would be selling a hell of lot more then random indie games and asset flips that sell less then a thousand units in it's lifetime.
If that's the case then surviving off 20% is more then enough and completely fair in my eyes.
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>>731931175
stop noticing
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>>731931175
>+28.99%
no wonder they want to take Valve down
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>>731930326
What are you on about, fucking retard? I replied to a post saying that indie devs subsidize AAA slop with the statement that AAA slop pays for itself. The only things that are subsidized on Steam by both AAA slop and indie games are games that are literally free or have very low sales. Steam isn't losing money on either AAA slop or indie games. If you're not the guy who brought that point up, then fuck off I ain't even talking to you. I don't need some random clueless retard chiming in on behalf of another clueless retard about things neither understands.



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