Why are weebs like this? So incensed that people like an RPG that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loop, that they have to accuse anyone who likes Expedition 33 as being racist against the poor JRPG genre?
i hate japs and want them replaced with christian africansbut then we would lose a large part of the heavy metal genre so maybe not
>Clair Obscur: Israelikek
>>732058157Apologize.
>>732057985E33niggers have become the most obnoxious motherfuckers out there and that's an accomplishment when soulsfags exists.You like your poor's man Paper Mario? good nobody is saying you shouldn't, but shut the fuck up.
>>732058384I agree but antiE33 troons are even more annoying because they make half these threads/
>>732057985Youve made this thread like 30 times. Get over it
Almost like most of your post involve bitching and moaning about Japan and the JRPG genre. Also E33 is generic as hell in every way possible.
>>732058157>kekI don't understand leftist/progressive humor other than that there's lots of brainwashing involved to be fixated on such an issue rather than critiquing the game itself. Does it need to be Al Jazeera approved for you to consider it safe to play? what the fuck is wrong with nu gamers in general?
The "YOU HATE JRPGS AND ARE RACIST IF YOU LIKE E33" rhetoric cope weebs spout every single time without fail is hilarious, because it's so easily proven false. Also calling the game "industry plant ai slop that's spiritually Israeli", buzzword vomit for likes from the troon circlejerk.
>>732059018It's a mix of being an entitled zoomer, being a troon and thinking JRPGs started with Xenoblade.
>Look up their review>Opening paragraphs are them clearly seething about how E33 fans hate JRPGs, then crying about how people praised the dodge and parry>Then they give a bunch of halfhearted compliments to the game while still backhandedly insulting it (calling the story "the best in video game history according to people who only played E33)>Ends with an assurance they totally liked the game (They probably never played it and just made a review for clicks, all of their praises based on their favorite e-celeb's opinions)Disgusting. Reminder this troon posted "their" 10x10 in the replies of that same Twitter thread and it's completely performative dogshit; a mix of the most obvious picks you'd see on a "Top 10 games of x console" list and some literal who indies nobody has even heard of so xhe can appear deeper than xhe is. Not to mention all the other troons praising "SUCH GOOD TASTE" in the replies, actual cult.
>>732059398>Hollow Knight abortion girlthe fuck is wrong with these people?
>>732057985>>732058157>MUH WRPGS DOE!!REMINDER>Zill O'll Infinite+ absolutely mogs any WRPG in terms of reactivity and choices>SaGa games and especially UNLIMITED SAGA have MUCH more options, choices, and complexity than even the most complex WRPGs.>Shin Megami Tensei and especially the better series Etrian Odyssey games are pretty much early 90s CRPGs gameplay wise but with their own twists on the genre.>Live A Live let you play the chapters in any order you want, and in some of these chapters you can do certain stuff in any order you want too.>Metal Max games are literally Fallout + Dragon Quest, open-ended as fuck and with solid tank customization to boot.>Front Mission games have great tactical gameplay and total control over mechs customization.>No WRPG comes close to The Genius of the Sappheiros's combat complexity>Tactics Ogre and Langrisser games have a shitton of routes and endings, all based on player choice.>Growlanser games are literally infinity engine games in an anime art style made for consoles and not limited by shitty D&D rules, much more choices than any Obsidian or Bioware too.>Rune Factory games are literally Harvest Moon the RPG, but with a better romance system than actual Harvest Moon games.>Elona is literally endless.>Lunatic Dawn games are the most open-ended CRPGs to date, only thing that can compare is probably Darklands.
>>732057985the "I hate rap, but I love Eminem before he went batshit" crowd is based though
>>732060015>I hate rap, but I love Eminem before he went batshitmore commonly known as 'white people'
>>732059398All of which the faggot in the OP definitely is, kek.
I mostly play Japanese games. It feels weird that I bought Expedition 33 because I basically supported the current and most powerful anti-Japanese weapon.
*BURRRRRRRP*No one even gets the real purpose behind this game.
>>732060442>No one even gets the real purpose behind this game.Being a plant funded by Tencent to weaken Ubisoft so they can buy its stocks and IPs cheap? It's kind of obvious given how you will never see anyone discussing Expediton 33, the videogame, and instead every single internet talk about E33 was about how much it "fucked up" Ubisoft.
>>732060570>Ubishills not even hiding anymoregrim
I dropped the game because I wasn't liking the characters and the story, but I think it's funny how it makes jrpgfags angry
>>732059393>proven falseIs that why you E33 troons bitch about "weebs" and japan?
Just taking a cursory glance at their twitter page this person is literally a paedophile troon so I think their opinion can be immediately discarded on that basis.
>"How about we make an RPG that's not as long as e.g. Baldur's Gate 3 and in contrast to Persona and every other JRPG, we simply write good characters and an interesting story?"
>>732057985>I wrote a piece on Backloggd
>>732060570No, ubisoft deserves its implosion, whether that's true or not. The real thing about this is that it's 100% ai written and was a litmus test to gauge how well it could fool the people. The fact it won so many awards signals that ai is coming along fine if it can impress the goycattle. The stuff that so called makes humans special, a prompt can do better.Soon they'll erase us like they did the canvas in the game (which we agree to since the vast majority of people picked Verso's ending)
>>732059393>YOU HATE JRPGS IF YOU LIKE E33This part is true tho. The E33 fanbase is very vocal about how shit JRPGs are and how E33 "got the concept right".
>I wrote up a pieceHoly shit, he's a visionary. Unique in his constructions, he is the final arbiter of human philosophy. Xitter was a mistake.
>>732061149You're reckoning.They said there never was a mature turn based JRPG since Lost Odyssey and that's the case. It made you nuWeebs angry because you cannot simply accept that animu jarpigs that have spread since the 00s are not the same instead of simpy accepting the games you like for what they are: stories aimed at teenagers.
>>732060995>inb4 "THOSE DON'T COUNT!!!!!"
I wrote up a piece on /v/ about how twitter screenshot threads are fucking gay
>>732058384>nobody is saying you shouldn't?
Not an rpgOut>>>/vrpg/
>>732061025>paedophile troonDepartment of Redundancy Department
>>732058220Holy BASED
>>732057985>picIt should be "I hate rap but love Hamilton"
>>732057985>Pyrafag roasted E33sisters so hard they will be seething for the next year about this postholy kek. Just accept the truth that E33 is the new "baby's first JRPG" and that its ffanbase hates literally every other JRPG. Stop denying it
>>732057985>isn't bogged down by the generic gameplaywhat do you mean? it's turn-based
>>732061025Just a cursory glance at the tweet in OP gives it away, but I can believe this wholeheartedly without ever even clicking on their account.
>>732061683>baby's first JRPG>posts Xenoblade
>>732057985Because we don't like games from game developers that are inherently dishonest.They are not an indie game as they literally have a publisher that is directly funded by a Chinese corporation named Netease.They are not a Japanese game yet somehow every journalist and midwit social media dwelling troll wants to say "This is the game Square Enix never made" or something along those lines. Acting as if this random dogshit game that pales in comparison to even the most average of PS2/PS3 era JRPGs whilst also actively disparaging people for having tastes that differ from the constant fellatio that is being performed on this ugly game composed mostly out of unreal engine 5 store assets with a small streak of generic looking in-house made assets that are barely better.There are some people who genuinely like this game, I believe they like it, I just don't personally believe that these people have good tastes or tastes that are indicative of people who genuinely love JRPGs. I feel like people who love JRPGs and consistently play a lot of them would be more than capable of understanding that mechanically this game is mediocre. Visually it's shit but most people have been gaslit into believing that "realistic" graphics are good by years of marketing. Musically it's solid but that's one of the few things that you have to get right in this genre. Narratively I don't care for it.I don't like to agree with shitty analogies but this really is a "I don't like x but i like thing that is a pale imitation of x" situation. Also the only people I know personally who actually like this game are all spics, they all are brown and they all genuinely don't play most turn based games. They play games as a service garbage like dead by daylight, warframe, overwatch and rainbow six siege thus meaning that their opinions should not be taken seriously because they clearly enjoy games that are fucking garbage.
>>732057985The ironic weeb is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a normie, NPC, tourist, trend follower, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an ironic weeb and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out."
>>732061924TRVTHNVKE
>>732057985his review literally said he liked itDon't bother reading it it's really boring
>>732057985https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/filename/IMG_6636.png/>>732059647https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/fIU732PbklS4Dm5UvGD5KA/What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>732059647>This is the "taste" of "people" who don't like E33Yikes
post Lune
>>732057985>e33 haters are niggers mad that white boys rap bettercolor me surprised
uhhh, good games *bad*, actually...
>>732059393what if i unironically love e33 and hate jrpgs
>>732061806Leagues ahead of the mollified and generic >muh nii nii chan Nothing plot of e33
>>732061683Half of the genre is "babies first JRPG". It's a predominantly casual genre that is geared toward kids.You think Dragon Quest, Pokemon and Persona are big boy games?
>>732062701
>>732063067Name a “big boy” western game.
>>732061924>people hype your game up as an indie game when it technically is not an indie game>people hype your game up as a JRPG when it technically is not Japanese>"bad now"This is unironically autism. You're more fixated on categorizing things, then you are willing to play a game with an open mind.
>>732062825That is the line of thinking the average E33 hater has, yes.
>>732063159
>>732063159I dunno, X-Com on iron man mode?Euro Truck Simulator?
>>732058157Zoomer humor is calling everything Israeli and Epstein
>>732063243Absolutely mogged by xenogears/saga/blade.
>>732063363>bladelol, lmao even
>>732063338literally
I can’t take normalfag “human” opinion seriously when it’s the same audience that sincerely cries during “serious” scenes in low rent acting and cheap production blockbuster shit like the trash superhero flicks
>>732057985>words words wordsit's just a bad game bro
>>732062825>it's good because ecelebs and critics and game journalists said so, and... and if I don't like it I can't be part of the cool crowd!!!Lmao
>>732063035you either have your own niche biases or you just didn't play jrpgs that appealed to you
>>732063381Filtered ;^)
>>732063243The plebs aren’t worthy of this discussion, they’ll never understand it. It always gets derailed by the New Vegas troons who chirp in over Avellone.
>>732057985e33 is nice when niggers like (You) aren't constantly baiting about it to own le weebs or something.
>>732063363
>>732063363Those are "I'm 14 and this is fucking DEEP" kinds of games.
>>732063603Actually 34 year old wizard otaku. Dont try to punch up out of your league
>>732063363You're just as big a troon as the Xitter fag.
>>732063603Finna is old southern term
>>732063627This but “deep and dark” games/rpgs like >witcher>baldurs gate >fallout>dragon age >pillars of eternity >deus ex >planescape>wasteland And on and on and on
>>732063475It's good because I played it, and it was fun and had a good storyline.Why do you think it's bad? Because it's not Japanese, and you listen to faggots on twitter instead of playing things?
>>732063440can someone translate this
>>732063637I'm exactly the same age and I find it extremely hard to believe someone my age can enjoy the absolute trash that is Xenoblade. And I'm a wizard too so there is no excuse.
>>732063780Because any and all of takahashi’s games are vastly better than the majority of shit
>>732058157
>>732063729Because you didn't mention good gameplay.
>>732063763I think they're accusing them of "colonizing" a Japanese genre?A genre highly modeled on D&D and Wizardry.It's retarded slave morality zoomer babble. Ignore them.>No! You CAN'T just make a really good game! You MUST pay TRIBUTE!!!
>>732063573kino
>>732063627you don't have to act contrarian about xenogears bro
>>732063886trv
>>732063859I said it was a good game. It being a *good game* is kind of implied. Spastic.
>>732063909what fan fiction is thathomeworld never got any sequels
>>732057985>Xitter retardsWhy do you care?
>>732063936Not true, it got Cataclysm
>>732063095more
>>732063780I don’t know. I outgrew generic mollified baby tier characters and party members of dragon age and baldurs gate and kotor etc about 20 years ago. Even that warhammer rpg was like >oh this is made for 14-16 years olds in terms of story and companions And dropped it out of boredom
>>732063859>japigs>good gameplay
>>732063901I'm not saying it's bad. It's just for kids. Expedition 33 is also very much a game you'll get the most out of if you're about 16.
>>732057985The world is just jealous that Europeans excel at everything.
>>732060570>given how you will never see anyone discussing Expediton 33, the videogame, and instead every single internet talk about E33 was about how much it "fucked up" UbisoftMeds. Now. This never happened.
>>732064025True, but also absolutely wrong in every reality
>make one of the best JRPGs of all time>in an era where the JRPG is a rotten husk of its own genre>NO YOU HAVE TO ALSO LOVE SHITTY OUTDATED GAMES>FF7 ISN'T OUTMODED IT'S A "TREND SETTERIf you don't love E33 you don't love video games. Simple as.
>>732064030/thread
>>732063980
>>732063728Those are boring ass dusty board game inspired experiences for old men like me.Xenogears is for the Evangelion crowd. It's a teen angst product.
>>732063729>Why do you think it's bad?nta but:>time-wasting gameplay that makes you sit around for ages waiting for the parry chance or wait to slowly manually aim for the enemy weakpoint, these are essentially bullshit minigames that don't make the game harder, just more tedious>ugly generic UE assets with every obnoxious "cinematic" filter awkwardly slapped on>boring characters played by unexpressive faggots>story that continually makes everything the player does entirely pointless leading to an ending where literally nothing you did matters>disgusting chink tier animation for tards who think a normal attack having a dozen spins and flips at x5 speed is cool because tik tok told them that's what anime is like>constant droning soundtrack that never seems to fit the purpose of the scene
>>732064140I’m also an old man who says they are for me but ina lesser context compared to my Japanese media. And when a want to you know, just settle and not have to think about anything important
>>732064080>NO YOU HAVE TO ALSO LOVE SHITTY OUTDATED GAMES>FF7 ISN'T OUTMODED IT'S A "TREND SETTERyou are proving the tranny right
Can someone wise in the ways of moonrunes tell me if the abhorrent dialogue and presentation in JRPGs is a result of wording and literary conventions that don't translate well or are they genuinly written like that?
>>732063159Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
>>732064080>>make one of the best JRPGs of all timewhere?
>>732064126based, you're saving this thread
>>732064248>the abhorrent dialogue and presentation in JRPGscite an examplewe know you won't, you've never played a jrpg
Reddit game
>>732064282You must be around 14 if you're really falling for such obvious falseflag lmao.
>>732064078I'm just saying, I went though my "bro, Evangelion is so deep!" phase when you were probably still a baby.It's not that deep it's just for 14 year olds who hate their dads and think the world sucks.It does that stuff well. I'm not giving it shit.
>>732058079Japan is being replaced but it's by jeets, not africans
>>732064248What? Well? Can wrpgs dick riders tell me why every game has to be shackled to generic piss boring Tolkien shit and chained down even further by being tied to >muh semblance realism
>>732064336>memes are reddit
>>732061924>They are not an indie game as they literally have a publisherSo Nintendo is an indie studio then?>They are not a Japanese gameI fail to see how that's relevant for anything.>this random dogshit game that pales in comparison to even the most average of PS2/PS3 era JRPGsName one better JRPG. You can't.>Also the only people I know personally who actually like this game are all spics,Why do you know so many spics?
>>732064336newfag
>>732064353I doubt you are 50+
>>732064186>good things bad actually
>>732057985>tropes japan :(>tropes west:0The story is the most "Journey of the Hero" bs by the books out there. Which makes The first version of y2k the videogame as a sophisticated contra-cultural story.People gagging at such dick story are the same retards who say Ano hates christianity.
>>732064528what about any of that is meant to be good?pretty much every aspect of the game is subparthere's nothing that stands out as particularly goodthe UI looks nice at least, a welcome change from the generic slop everything's infected with now
>>732064186This mongoloid thinks Roy mustang firing off as many fireballs and explosions as fast as he can snaps fingers is dumb. But unironically thinks Gandalf shedding and pissing himself for 19 minutes to cast one spell is rad as shit rather. What a joke
>this won best Art Direction at TGA
>>732062067>his review literally said he liked itAlready covered here: >>732059647 Giving some halfassed praise to a game you're clearly contrarian about and then saying you liked it so you aren't called a contrarian doesn't mean you liked the game.
>>732064614>The story is the most "Journey of the Hero" bs by the books out therenot in the least, it would be better if it wasthe story is 100% post-modernist subversion.how much are you getting paid to lie?
>>732064248they're for kids, bro. Grownups in Japan are expected to move on from cartoons and video games.Also Japanese culture really likes melodrama, and does't seem to care for subtext.If a character is angry they scream "Aaaiiaaa! I am angry!". It's the way they do things.
>>732064678Yeah it’s why their media is a step ahead of boring western nonsense
>>732064678>they don’t care for subtext Let’s take an example of western pop media. Like Batman. How quickly will I find a panel of him pissing and shitting and ejaculating to the memory of his nothing parents getting shot if I open any random comic issue? I bet within three panels or the first two pages
>>732064628>Gandalf shedding and pissing himself for 19 minutes to cast one spell is rad as shitno? that's the opposite of what I'm saying. the combat is slow as fuck thanks to the retarded parry minigame.E33jeets can't read I guess...
>>732064614If you mean Yiik that game is like 50+ years ahead of video games as a storytelling medium (even the original version). Most video games are pretty basic.
>>732064664There is literally nothing subversive about the story.There is no twist, it is explicitely stated that the world is painted during the first two acts, multiple times.I had guessed the whole painting thing by mid-act 1.
>>732064402One of the most popular WRPG franchises is based on Mad Max and A Boy and His Dog. Others are based on Star Wars or Babylon 5. Others are based on cyberpunk novels. It is not a genre that is limited to Tolkein pastiches.
>>732064336Reddit actually doesn't care that much about E33>inb4 E33fags say every game in the image is bad
>>732064616>good things bad, actuallyPlay the game.
>>732064628>good fiction is when the power levels are highDon't be this guy...
>>732064906>there's no twist>I totally guessed the twist thoughit's nihilistic slop from faggots who are too self-conscious and cowardly to commit to an actual fantasy world and think that wasting time is an epic subversion of expectations. it's made by people who love Rian Johnson movies.
>>732064649all of that looks rad as fuck.
>>732064983>redditthat graph was voted in /r/jrpg who are still butthurt over e33 mogging the rest of the genre
>>732064983/r/jrpg absolutely hates Expedition 33, far more than here.
>>732065032see: >>732064616>what about any of that is meant to be good?
>>732064832>BatmanIs also for kids.Watch the Sopranos or something.
>>732065145There is not a single twist. Use proper words retard-kun.
Reminder that the vast majority of the hate against E33 is anti-western weebs absolutely seething that a western dev managed to make a better JRPG than Nips have made in over a decade. If it was made by a Japanese dev and had anime aesthetics, they’d be jizzing over it.
>>732064983I never thought Yakuza was that good, but it's a shame that it's being dragged down by the trashy e celeb groups and ironic otaku trash.
I liked Expedition 33 and FF7 Rebirth. I hated Metaphor and Persona 5 though. It was all cringey anime weeb shit in both of them. I hated the vibes and the voice acting. Final Fantasy was traditionally the only non extremely weeb JRPG franchise with the exception of FF13 which was Persona tier anime weeb cringe. I wont explain myself. You will just have to understand what I mean.
>>732058220>AsmongrelYikes...
>>732064664>>732064906>muh suberversiononly flesh vessels with an extra chromosome think muh subversion is what make an story great.This ones feels like those anons who sperg about how the seasonal anime about some guy attracting the hottests girls on school could be improved with pretentious western bullshit to make the guy le worthy of the hot girls pussy.
>>732065171>E33 haters have dogshit tastes in games as evidenced by >>732064983 >>732059647 >But will still try and gatekeep E33 as "not being a REAL JRPG"
>>732064906I think E33 WANTS to be subversive by framing a story where players side with the gods in a gnostic setting but they try too hard to make the choice feel justified to the point most people are just going to come away feeling like there’s a “real world and fake world”
>>732065284>There is not a single twist.The fact that you only define "twist" as "something that surprised me" doesn't change the fact that the plot serves into an entirely different direction than what was promised, seemingly just for the sake of subversion. Make a real argument for the quality of the story or fuck off back to plebbit.
>>732065365>understand what I meanThat you're not worth any anon's time? I'm only taking the bullet as it were to shit on you.
>>732065293That did not work for Metaphor tho
>>732059398>DRAGON FUCKING QUEST 11What's wrong with DQ11? It was a very solid game.
>>732064906The game has a motif of "this is a fucking painting" right from the beginning. You'd have to be a bit slow to not pick up on the constant references to brushes, canvases, chroma. The god of their world is called "the Paintress".
>>732064983why is over half of this list comprised of square games
>>732065145The painted world is nestled within a larger fantasy world, where there is a war going on between two factions of wizards.play the game.
>>732065214>uh EXPLAIN why hotdogs taste good... And NO, I'M NOT GOING TO EAT ONE. YOU HAVE TO TELL ME FIRST!
>>732064353>It's not that deep it's just for 14 year olds who hate their dads and think the world sucksThat's Alicia's ending. Verso's ending is for grown men able to make tough decisions. The fact you gravitated towards the former and took it as the message of the game says a lot about you.
>>732065382It's not a jrpg because it's not japanese. You all come off as extremely assravaged when you keep trying to insist it's a jrpg while also insisting every other jrpg is terrible.
>>732065387The only subversive thing or twist in E33 story is the 33 December on the grave in the very last frame of Verso ending hinting that the real world is indeed also a creation.Anything prior to this is not subversive at all because it is absolutely stated multiple times if you are not a retard rushing the plot just to post your subversive bait on 4chin.
>>732064186>the parry chanceWhat? What chance? It's not luck based.>wait to slowly manually aim for the enemy weakpointIt's exactly as slow as you are.>boring characters played by unexpressive faggotsOkay you're just baiting.>story that continually makes everything the player does entirely pointless leading to an ending where literally nothing you did mattersFalse.>constant droning soundtrack that never seems to fit the purpose of the sceneFalse.
>>732065470idk man for me it was the swansong of turn based jrpgs with an actual budget
>>732065562>The painted world is nestled within a larger fantasy worldSo literally nothing that happens within the painted world matters and 99% of the game is canonically a complete waste of time, got it.>>732065629Yes, use your words to explain. This is not a problem for anyone halfway intelligent when talking about any game that is actually good. I already gave a critique, now counter it or crawl back to facebook or some other website where the only discussion is "I liked da thing" "I liked it too".
>>732065293the people who liked JRPGs for the sense of imagination and cool storylines have gradually moved on, and been replaced by people who want to goon to anime girls and have never read a book.That's the basis of the misunderstanding that is going on here.
>>732065449Metaphor is basically a spin on SMT and Persona. I think the reason it underperformed is because it wasn’t different enough from those games.E33 is a homage to golden age Squaresoft, which is an underexplored market nowadays. It would also be a good game even if it did have anime aesthetics, but let’s not pretend that the soul reason it’s controversial in some JRPG circles is because some weebs just have a blanket hatred for western games in general.
>>732065707>What? What chance? It's not luck based.jesus christ I was joking when I said all E33 fans are esl jeets
>>732065630I literally said E33 is also aimed at the same audience. Which is why it fits so well into the JRPG genre.
>>732064186>Yes I didn’t play E33, how can you tell?
>>732065651What I mean is, in a typical story and by typical morals you’d generally accept that even if these people are creations they’re still people with a right to exist, and it’s what the final decision is supposed to hinge on to be a hard choice. But ultimately it’s kind of hollow because one is framed pretty distinctly as the “right choice” and the painted world is treated as a fake world in an anti escapism story rather than an actual one. The game isn’t subversive but it wishes it was, maybe pretentious is the right word
>>732065646>It's not a jrpg because it's not japaneseIrrelevant. It's a JRPG because it plays like one.
>>732065870Why would I play it if it looks like shit?
>>732065890This. It's high on it 's own supply. It thinks it's hot snot, when it's really cold boogers. It's sniffing it's own farts.
>>732065950>Irrelevant. It's a JRPG because it plays like one.
>>732065446I shall give more examples to explain using not a JRPGOcarina of Time and Majoras Mask = Not anime weeb cringeBOTW and TOTK = anime weeb cringeYou understand yes?
>>732065783The thing is that those people who wanted to just goon have always been there, but again, they hate E33 because they think western aesthetics are inherently ugly. This is strange considering that E33 has plenty of cute girls and the game very openly sexualises them.
>>732065950jrpgs aren't defined by their combat otherwise kingdom hearts, tales and star ocean wouldn't be universally agreed to be jrpgs
>>732065890The real problem is that they kind of screwed up with the painted characters in act 3. Only the fake Alicia was actually developed enough to add some nuance but it's all optional.Lune and Sciel are really poorly developed in act 3, especially Lune because you'd expect her to be far more hostile to the Gods that created her.
>>732066023I understand that you have awful tastes and keep whining about non issues like the fringe minority you are.
>NOOOOOOO A TURN BASED RPG MUST BE FUCKING CRINGE AND MADE IN JAPAN>E33 DOESNT HAVE THE KAWAII GIRLS ,THE LOLIS AND THE ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT PLOT AND THE ONE-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTERS I LOVE SO MUCH
>>732065950>Irrelevant. It's a JRPG because it plays like one.You just blow in from stupid town?
>>732061392It's always the same group of games with these millennials.>I have been playing JRPGs for 30 years>proceeds to list down the most basic JRPGs like Persona, FF and Chrono TriggerYou'd think someone who claims to be a fan of JRPGs for so long would list down something that isn't already mainstream. Where's Metal Max? Where's Growlanser? Linda Cubed? I bet they avoid SaGa and Vagrant Story too. Ok, I get it. You've been replaying Chrono Trigger for decades while crying for a sequel or remake. Something tells me that the zoomer with the 2hu pfp has played more JRPGs than the millennials who keep screaming "FF/PERSONA/CHRONO TRIGGER" as if it means anything.
>>732065768>So literally nothing that happens within the painted world matters and 99%Why wouldn't it matter?
Presented without comment.
>>732063627>implying that doesn't describe Planetscape to a teeBut enough about Planetscape.
>>732066105But im trying to explain what is cringe and weeb and what isnt. I will make direct Final Fantasy comparison. Final Fantasy 10 is not cringe and weeb but Final fantasy 13 is cringe and weeb. Its the way the characters behave and talk and sound.
I mean your FOTM got it's 15 minutes of fame. Not everyone has to like it you know? Should've made the women hotter and gave it a less shit ending.
>>732065890>and the painted world is treated as a fake world in an anti escapism story rather than an actual one.This is the fundamental problem.Typically you can get away with "it was all a dream" if the dream is still 'real' in a meaningful sense.You can interpret everything that happens in any Silent Hill game as "all a dream", it's still meaningful because those are real people who are caught in the dream, and the things they go through change them in significant ways. Even if it's all a mass hallucination by the protagonist, that hallucination still has meaning.In E33 you have to ask if the characters in the game are even meant to be real people. Any investment you had in them is entirely wasted. It's like trying to start a conversation with someone only to realize they're an AI spambot.
>>732066234You posted a twitter comment though, crop your image
>man who's only ever played final fantasy>i'm getting some real final fantasy vibes from this game..
>>732058220>buy the fookin' game!
>>732066191As if zoomies weebs on xitter calling Expedition a Israeli game played Metal Max, who are you fooling kek
>>732058157this is a polschizo tier post
>>732066260Because it's not "cringe" you fell for ironic shitposting to mock and deride tourists who whine about anime media whether it's anime/manga/jrpgs/live action/LN etc. Exact posts by anons who don't have an ass backwards "I like this ironically and to laugh at it mentality" that dumbs display. OHOHOHOHOHO
>>732066153You will never be a real jrpg.>>732066195>Why wouldn't it matter?Because none of it is real. Those weren't real people. They don't have feelings, they don't have lives. Nothing in the game actually matters according to the game.
>>732066234Go back to twitter
>>732064353Hate your dad is undertale and persona especially 5. E33s theme is about sacrifice for self gratification or for others. Its kind of an antithesis to childhood rebellion.
>>73206553210 out of 15, and only 3 other companies repped.
>>732066283>I mean your FOTM got it's 15 minutes of fameIt definitely feels like the hype around E33 died after it swept the game awards. It's as if that event has soured E33 for a lot of people as evident by Silksong beating E33 in the steam awards. It also doesn't help that even the normies are starting to catch on to the VGAs being a shill event with zero value with how hard Geoff tried to push Highguard.
>>732065365>>732066023>>732066260You are afraid of being judged for having shit taste, that's it.
The only non Final Fantasy JRPG games I ever liked were Legend of Dragoon, Lost Odyssey and Expedition 33. Any other ones I tried were just turbo cringe shit like the Persona games or the Tales of games and whatnot.
>>732066234>if you didn't remove your dick in the name of progress you are JRPG touristdo Xenoblade fans really?
>>732066260>bud actually thought anons dislike and shit otaku mediaYou need to lurk about another 200 years.
>>732066459>It definitely feels like the hype around E33 died after it swept the game awards.Was there any hype beforehand? I had never heard of it before TGA.
>>732066363>no mention of Xitter>brings up XitterRent free. As if I was defending Xitter, but keep petitioning for your Chrono Trigger Remake, old man. Just give it two more weeks.
>>732066389>Because none of it is real. Those weren't real people.i bet you got mindbroken by star ocean 3's plot twist and even agreed with luther
>>732066525E33 had frequent threads before the VGAs, and then it died down after the VGAs. Nowadays, the only threads we see are this one where OP cries about weebs or whatever.
>>732066389>Because none of it is real. Those weren't real people. They don't have feelings, they don't have lives. Nothing in the game actually matters according to the game.It is stated multiple times the painted people have feeling and their own feelings. Play the fucking game.Let's make it even more simple. Humanity had believed that God created our world and life for 4000 years, did they also believe they did not exist or have feelings?
I dont get why people get so angry about stuff like this. Its only a game.
>>732066632Normalfags have to "own" the weebs. or whatever nonsense they're pissing themselves over.
>>732066625>It is stated multiple times the painted people have feeling and their own feelings.The chatbot says it's a real person.>Humanity had believed that God created our world and life for 4000 years, did they also believe they did not exist or have feelings?Did God create the painted world?
>>732058079>>732058157I am having a hard time differentiating between the far left and far right here these days. I think some of you discord troons go so far down the false flag rabbit hole tour start to warp your own beliefs.
>>732066707>Did God create the painted world?Are you actually retarded?
>>732066525Yes, there were was a decent amount of hype on here before the game released. Similar to that game with the blonde girl that keeps getting posted saying theyre one of the many romances. Can't remember the name of it.
I enjoyed this game but it gets way too much praise. Its just decent. Its not like some amazing 10/10 game or anything. Theres was just hardly any good games at all last year so it won by default. It was my goty as well.
>>732066725>I am having a hard time differentiating between the far left and far right here these daysEpstein browsed 4chan, and his woman browsed Reddit. It's all a psyop. The current state of the Internet is a result of the elite trying to divide us. They want you to fall for the far left vs far right narrative. These people are victims of the elite and are too far gone. Don't bother with that nonsense, Anon. Focus on yourself, your loved ones and enjoy vidya.
Here's the actual review. He recommends Kingdom Hearts to normgroids.https://backloggd.com/u/DMCameron99/review/3235574/
>>732066759So that's a no. Why are you pretending that the painted world is a one to one equivalent to our own? I know that's what the game wants you to think because "muh deep themes", but that's not the case in the game. The writers didn't know what they were doing and panicked at the last minute.
>>732066964There is not single chance I read this shit, nigger
>>732066772>Similar to that game with the blonde girl that keeps getting postedWhat game? Tsukihime? I now have a fetish for blonde girls with short hair after having a one night stand with one. Now I'm able to appreciate the beauty in Arcueid's design.
>>732067081>Why are you pretending that the painted world is a one to one equivalent to our ownWhy are you pretending it is not? What would be different in our perspective if God did exist and created us?
>>732057985Bog-standard jarpig except made in a western country, no idea what people see in it.t. crpg enjoyer
>>732066964>equating eminem to kendrick>the story's themes of >deathand this is to go even further beyond... I call it, super pseud 3
Do people actually read reviews on backlogged? I use the site but only to keep track of every game ive played. I dont engage with the reviews part at all.
>WOW NORMALFAGS! YOU ENJOYED E33!?>THEN GIVE [insert JRPG here] A TRY! YOU'LL LOVE IT!!!Why the fuck would you want to invite more normies into the hobby? Persona 5 already did enough damage. Fucking stop! No, you don't want to invite more normies because they ruin everything.
>>732067210>What would be different in our perspective if God did exist and created us?Nothing, that's the point you faggot.You are taking an explanation for our reality and treating it as if it was written as the premise for a fantasy story.You are insisting that humans can be equal to God and create worlds on a whim. This is the kind of hubris that good stories warn against.The painted world is not equal to the real world, the game makes this explicit, it's just too retarded to understand the implications of that.
E33 isn't better than a single mario rpg but you can't make that equivalence without upsetting the glownigger nintendo schizos upset that jeffrey couldn't get his hands on a 150 year old playing card company
>>732067327Very much this also give me my (You) you thief! I need it! >>732066964
>>732067187No its knights path, took me a stupid amount of time googling to find it
>>732057985>elden ring parry gameplay no one asked for>aigen tv show writing aimed at women>less content than jrpgs from 20 years ago>hallway->parry battle->hallway gameplay loop>and unlike outdated jrpgs, this one's ugly!
Anyone else getting filtered hard by Simon V2?I was able to steadily progress through the other DLC bosses via parryslop and shieldmaxxing.The Tornado effect and randomized parries are BTFO'ing my party consistently.
>>732065152>rad
>>732067459do zoomers really think this slop and the characters in E33 look good?
>>732067556Each sword color is the timing of the attack, it isnt random.
>>732067315I do, and write some myself. I mostly read other reviews just to look for ones I already agree with though. Ain't no way I'm going to be a "I disagree but this review is well constructed" cuckold.
>>732067457Sure >>732066964But I hadn't seen your post. I just notice that a lot of E33 discussions has devolved into people throwing out JRPG recommendations to people who will make demands that will serve to hurt the genre.
>>732064649rightfully sothe boss fights were also kino spectacles
W(+C)RPGS > JRPGS
>>732066191>play the good early games in the genre>move on when it all gets a bit samey and cringeyeah?
it's western gentrification journoslopsame with hollow knight. it's a mediocre unfun metroidvania funkopop flash game but since it steals from japan they pretend it's a masterpiece to move sales to western devs
>>732067459E33 had a fair amount of threads pre-release, there was a lot of Maelle posting though.What's funny is that /v/ was originally hyped by this game:https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/679107706
>>732066191Touhou also isn't a jrpg
>>732066259Is Planescape about how your dad is an asshole, and you have to man up and ask that girl out?
>>732067824Sometimes v is right and then contrarians come out after release and get mad. But on the flipside there was a lot of hype for dragons dogma 2
>>732067801>Growlanser>Metal Max>Linda Cubed>samey
>>732067953>dude, do the grinding
>>732067801The games Anon listed are part of the "good early games in the genre." You would think the guys who are bragadacious about playing JRPGs for decades would prove their experience by listing anything other than the same four or five series.
>>732065651>33 December on the grave in the very last frame of Verso ending hinting that the real world is indeed also a creation.pretty sure that's just the republican calendar
>>732067801those idiots haven't even played anything without the squaresoft logo until e33, and not even other lesser squaresoft published games like star ocean
>>732068175>gridingBased. Don't mind if I do.
>>732067934it's just the cycle. You basically have to let a game sit for two or three years before you can actually talk about it on /v/. By that point the rage addicts have moved on to something else.Although in the case of BotW, fucking never ever I guess.
>>732065959your loss
>>732068204Normal people can stomach like four or five of these games, before they see through the illusion and realize the gameplay sucks.It sucks in FF too. it's just that the story and presentation are enough to carry people through.
>>732065646>ipa beers are indian
>>732068241star ocean was enix
>>732068361>Normal people>caring about gameplaySince fucking when?
>>732066023I actually don't botw has its own unique style that isnt just cliche weebism. I don't really like it but it isnt anime weeb.
>>732068241>bro, no one has EVER played Pokemon. It's kinda obscure...That's you.
>>732068423Call of Duty has better gameplay than Final Fantasy.
>>732068449jrpgs enjoyers dismiss pokémon for the same reason fighting game players ignore mortal kombat and smash
>>732068575Salty contrarianism and implicit pedophilia?
>>732068503And Animal Crossing New Horizons has higher sales than the highest selling Call of Duty. Guess, cozy games have better gameplay than every shootan ever per the normies' decree.
>>732068674Animal Crossing has better gameplay than Call of Duty and Final Fantasy.
>>732068669>Salty contrarianism and implicit pedophiliaI wasn't thinking about it that way, but holy fuck you have a point.
amazing how it's always those people hating on e33
>>732057985I've never met a single person who has played it...
>>732068719Yup, and we can agree that Breath of the Wild has better gameplay than Expedition 33 too, right?
>>732068790Do they play video games in Bengaluru?
Astroturf 33
>>732063338But never Jewish
>>732068730I've literally spoken to these people. Once second it's "heh, I have such nuanced tastes. I like Guilty Gear and Rival Schools!", and then it's all "Uoooooohhhh!"If they don't like Smash Bros, it's because it's very hard to masturbate to Mr Game and Watch.
>>732068790Do they play video games in the United States of America?
>>732057985>I hate rap but I love eminemWtf is that supposed to mean? Nobody likes Eminem, he's a washed up faggot
>>732068862s33the
>>732067779Its been 3 years since BG3 have you even had a new game since then?
>>732057985>I wasn't harsh enoughsomeone needs to humble Cameron
>>732068798Did I say it doesn't?You didn't get memed into actually thinking BotW is bad too, did you? Did you play it?
>>732068891>I've literally spoken to these peopleOk, but why though? I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to them.
>>732068669lol why do you think nrs historically always had the smallest high level scene on top of laughably low overlap with other games despite being the best selling fighters
>Play JRPGS>NO KAWASAKI-SAN YOU ARE THE CHOSEN HERO. YOU MUST DEFEAT THE ANCIENT EVIL THAT WAS SEALED AWAY 1000 YEARS AGO>ON YOUR SIDE THE SHY STUTTERING GIRL THAT IS TELLING EVERYBODY HOW USELESS SHE IS >H....HELLO KAWASAKI-SAN. AHHHHHHHH *blushes*. I...I WILL TRY TO HELP YOU AND NOT BE USELESSTHE CRUAHZY GUY WITH CRUAHZY HAIRT AND CRUAHZY TEETH>YOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOO KAWASAKI-KUN LETS PARTYYYYY>THE COOL AND DOSTANT GIRL WITH GLASSES >HELLO KAWASAKI-SAMA ITS ME COOL GIRL
>>732068950No, he's right.
>>732069090Being a high level player is contrarianism.
>>732068957I wanted to see if you're consistent with your beliefs. Getting an Anon to say anything positive about BOTW is like pulling teeth. Would you also agree that BOTW is better than /v/'s top 10 along with any overly shilled game like Dragon's Dogma, Sonic Racing Crossworlds, God Hand, etc?
>>732069105name 5 jrpgs like this
>>732068967These are the people you get driven into proximity with when you're vaguely chuddy and autistic. Wait until you meet the closeted gays pretending to be trad Christians. Those people are fucking insufferable.
>This is the guy E33fags are falling over themselves to defend???Xenoblade sucks, but this nigga absolutely deserved to get shat on
>>732069662>Stupid person accidentally stumbles into a good game, and writes something incredibly ignorantOkay. It's still a good game though. I don't have to not like it because this tard exists.You're too low IQ. You wouldn't get it.
>>732069662>I don't eat pizza but this very first pizza I've ever had is the easily the greatest pizza in the entire world
>>732069757same with the xenoblade guy in the op
>>732069662I agree with him except the part about E33 being good.
>>732069909E33 is literal Millennia writing, and there is exactly no "heh, that just happened..." style snark in the game. And exactly zero references to Donald Trump or being a tranny.
>>732069870Xenoblade and most other JRPGs aren't good games though.
>>732070001Hmmnnnn wrong
>>732069981What zoomers call "millennial writing" is actually gen x writing (Whedon/Sorkin).
>>732069757>look at this Xenobladefag post, he represents ALL E33 detractors!>E33fag says the dumbest shit ever, within the same damn image in the OP no less>I-I'm not with that guy. T-that's not all E33fags...!!lol lmao
>>732070001>most other JRPGs aren't good gamesyou fucking people make it so annoying to defend e33 because you act like we're the same
>>732065470It's just not good and primarily liked by literal retards.Gameplay may as well be non-existent with how little player interaction adds (or is even desired by the game), the world and setting are shallow, the characters are one note and uninteresting, and the story is as generic as generic can be. It's the plain white bread of video games.
>>732070559It is frequently clear that people who don't like E33 haven't played it, and are just mad that it isn't Japanese though.They will tell you this.
more Lune?
>This thread again.
>>732057985It proves Legend of Dragoon was superior to FF7
>>732071325it's just terminally online contrarian /v/-tranniesirl everyone loved it and played it to great satisfactionand a large part of that is NOT having to endure an weeb-fanservice-cringefest
>>732058220taking a wow players opinion seriously
>>732071325And E33fags will tell you, ad nauseam, that they hate all JRPGs except E33, so why do they get so mad when I say they are not actually JRPG fans?
Something I think is weird about the game is that it’s definitely a masterpiece and deserves the hype it was given, yet it also somehow feels astroturfed with just HOW heavily it was praised. It’s as if it’s both overrated and yet appropriately rated at the same time.I do feel it’s weird how discussion of the game fell off a cliff after the VGAs when the game was all people could talk about for an entire year. You’d think a game of this quality would have more staying power.IMO, part of the reason people hyped the game so much was because they wanted to protest AAA companies like Ubisoft by proving a mid budget game could be more successful than their games.
>>732057985>game so good I look forward to not playing itWhat?
>>732072072It is the most blatantly shilled game here in over a decade.It may actually be good, but I will not buy it for years out of protest.
>>732072049I like E33 and I like JRPGs. E33 is on par with SMT Nocturne, the Kingdom Hearts games and the golden age Final Fantasies. In fact, it kind of feels like all 3 of those were inspirations for it in some way.
>>732066725Ever heard of the horseshoe theory?I realized it is true a long time ago. Basically extremists are retarded.
>>732068285>Although in the case of BotW, fucking never ever I guess.That's because BotW represents a significant shift away from one style of game (OoT clones) to something new. Fans of that old structure, especially those who didn't mesh with BotW, see BotW as the final nail in the coffin for OoT-style Zelda and that annoys them. It's a similar principle behind why Bethesda's Fallout games get so much shit for being the most recent Elder Scrolls with Guns constantly get shit from fans of 1/2/NV.
>>732072349The thing is though that /v/ initially loved E33 on release, but once it became mega popular, it became more divisive and more people were critical of it. It’s kind of similar to what happened to the Yakuza series when it became popular.
E33 is the Hollow Knight of RPGs, its so overly shilled that I'll make sure to never be interested in it, not even for free.
>>732072072It's a game with a very strong identity/vision. Even when it was just announced there was already a strong (yet small) community around it just because of the trailer music or title font.It's one of those games where you kind end up having strong attachment to the brand, like it happened with FF7 back then when it dropped in the west.It results that people blindly supported the game since then and it's become very difficult to discuss even minor flaws.It's a great game honestly but it is way overhyped.There was also a lot of falseflagging (especially during release month on this board) with dozen of fake over praise threads which were obviously made by AAA shills.This game is a very weird case of what is very wrong with modern gaming culture in general.
>>732072682>Oh people say steak is delicious? Fuck you I'm only eating hotdogs
>>732063338Holy based zoomers. Millennial reality is deepthroating nigger cock while cutting off their own.
>>732072774Zoomers literally talk like niggers. Notice also that only post that reaction gif of a nigger (speed or whatever his name is).
>>732072536Yeah, /v/ is filled with contrarians so something being popular inherently drives them into a frenzy.
>>732073056That's a millennial thing though. Zoomers post videos where people scream nigger on Instagram.
Why is this same thread, with the same basically copy-pasted bait-posts constantly posted? It's the same as the Final Fantasy and Zelda threads with the constantly re-posted bait OPs/posts, and the Frieren threads on /a/. What causes this behavior? What would drive "people" to endlessly do this day in and day out? I once decided I wanted to rage-bait before, and I felt like complete loser with an immense amount of shame. Do you need like a mental-illness gene, and a extraordinary amount of no self-awareness to want to do things like this all the time?
>>732072049except they don't. They tell you they like old Square games, and games like Nier, but have no interest in some slop like the Atlier series.
>>732072072yeah, I agree with that.In fact, I don't even agree it's a "master piece". It's just a good game. There's still loads of room for improvement, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the company does going forward.
>Abiotic Factor is a survival game for people who dont like survival games
>>732063159KCD
>>732072349Even as a big fan of OOT, I think BotW is a great game.You can just play other games. If you want the OOT experience, there are other things out there.
>>732073110Nick Fuentes is a Mexican who larps as a white supremacist, while being close friends with black people and Muslims. That's pretty much Zoomers in a nutshell. Everything they do is a mockery of a civilization they have never known or fully comprehended.
>>732074028Spic Fuentes is a fed.
>>732074061He's your spiritual leader. He embodies you.
>>732074136Who is "you"? Someone else that's in the room with us right now?
>>732057985I dont know but its even funnier that he has a pyra pfp
>>732072768More like people telling you to eat steak instead of hotdogs.
Coworker game
>>732058220>rage baiting in first 5 replies of every thread/pol/ being confirmed psyop really roused you all huh
>>732071997Listening to AsmonGold is literally more valid than listening to some random tranny who's mad xheir favorite jarpigs aren't popular
>>732075318Based Epstein would have loved COE33.
for me it's alkaiser
>>732074028>>732074061You should be thanking him, desu. Stormfags have zero charisma, and nobody would follow a stormfag. So you need a charismatic spic to lead your movement. Once the spic leaves, he'll takes his followers with him.
>e33 haterskek
>>732075860The man has no convictions and no vision. He's effective as a clown, and not much else.A world run by his kind would be literally 2026, only everyone openly says slurs while their black friends laugh along with them.The crimes and the rapes would continue, only now white kids would clap along and say "based". Resistance defused.
>>732068889It's funnier when you don't name them directly but the JIDF starts screeching about antisemitism regardless.
>>732058220>hey this new game came out its pretty good>reee that's not japanese>no? ok who cares?>reee what about my baby game made by japanese it has the power of friendship like a disney movie>not a fan of baby games>reeeeeeeeWhy are they like this?
>>732069264Seraphic Blue
>xenoshit fans
I remember when CT used to be the jrpg liked by non jrpgfags. What happened?
>>732068935boomers always said that shit
>>732080589>boomers
>>732079341>Xenotrannies genuinely think like this
>>732067627figuresas soon as i get down the pattern and went to town with verso, he does his board wipe attack, surprise phase 2 and my back row get promptly clobbered by a fresh board wipe attack upgraded from his first fighti don't know why i didn't expect that
>>732079879it became three whole ass decades old
>>732057985>>732058157why are tendie trannies so butthurt about this game? qrd?
>>732081379it sold well
>>732057985It's not a good game. It's certainly not as good as everyone is making it out to be. It's middling at best.
>>732081379one can only ponder such mysteries
>>732081379i wish it were mostly tendies
>>732057985The connection he made is abt. I was always irked by E33 since seeing it for the first time.
E33 is literally a weeb game wtf. The villain doing cool poses and aura farming, the girls acting like retards, like look at this shit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2S338pMHEA
>>732082491>abt>irkeddo you come from tumblr or some shit nigger?
>>732072072The game for whatever reason has some part fo tis nature that drives away what I would call "fanart people" both in those who make it and those who consume it. Because of this the game has the same kind of presence as like CoD in that their are a lot of people who love it but those people are not in the core "Online Gamer" demographic or more accurately halfway between the "Gamers" and "Buys CoD and 2 other games a year" types.Its an unnatural space which gamers haven't had to engage with since like 2012-2013 and so this game is throwing people for a loop.
>>732082668Most people who’ve actually played the game know that it’s extremely weeb, but some people think it’s disqualified from being that because it doesn’t have an anime aesthetic and was made by the French.It’s further evidence that hatred towards the game comes from anti-western weebs who are just butthurt because the game is western.
>>732064336to this day i think this might be the only webm ive seen of this game. No funny moments, glitches, cool bosses, attacks, whatever it may be. Unreal slop 5 is enough for me to never play it but the astroturfing of this game is bizarre. In videos ive seen on yt the character proportions look fucked up and their heads are too big or something and in general really fucking suffers from the problems UE has where it just fucking ugly, blurry and stuttery when it shouldnt be.
>>732057985Why did Tranny's turn on the game so quickly?
>>732083028That’s weird considering that Maelle, Sciel, Lune and Clea are all hot, yet they have very little porn, and also because there are people who like other JRPGs that love the game. Even Japanese devs loved the game. Tetsuya Nomura said it was his GOTY and drew fanart of it.
i don't trust people who hype up a game that mixes turn based and real time parry... its mental!
>>732057985Expedition 33 is an ugly ass game propped up by racists and xenophobes who hate Asians, Asian culture, and the concept of beauty, attractiveness, and sexuality.
>>732083147Yeah Yeah we know you autism prevents you from enjoying the inherently pro-normie sensibilities of UE5, go sort some boxes or some shit.
>>732083321nty, im going to play games that dont make me feel like i have cataracts instead.
>>732083308The game was made by weebs who love JRPGs and anime, and the girls are all cute though. The director’s favourite games are FFVIII and Persona 3.
>>732083553And yet the end product is ugly
he did nothing wrong
>>732083308this but the complete opposite
>>732083802Noone in this game did anything wrong
>>732083260>That’s weird considering that Maelle, Sciel, Lune and Clea are all hot, yet they have very little pornThat's what I mean, the game has some presence to it that makes the kind of people who draw art not interested. Like I was watching a popular creator in the Deltarune scene who is also a game dev play it and by the end of Act 1 was just utterly whelmed, like whatever part of the brain that makes people into "Fandom" type content that drives the perception of games online also repulses them from E33.Also a unspoken truth is that Industry people are closer to CoD people then Gamers are. Not in that they actually play CoD but that they enjoy basic bitch games
>>732083995but that's a good thingif your game has an massive active fanbase, it just means it's troon coded
>>732084214>if your game has an massive active fanbase, it just means it's troon coded>A massive fanbase means it's meant to appeal to less than 1% of the human race
>>732084214I never said it was good or bad, just that it makes people who spend their time in Gamer circles confused by its popularity because the CoD/normie sphere of content decoupled from "Gaming Culture" by the end of the 7th gen (CoD:Ghosts was very much the splitting point) and so this game touching both spaces throws people off.
>>732083995Personally, I wonder if it’s because it has a semi-realistic artstyle. A lot of porn artists and fan artists in general almost exclusively draw things in either an anime or western cartoon style, but E33 isn’t styled like either of those. There’s also a certain seriousness to E33’s plot and characters. I think pieces of media with tragic stories that take themselves extremely seriously have a certain gravitas which means that fan artists becomes much rarer due to artists wanting to match the seriousness of the subject matter.
>>732057985OP's pic kinda right though. E33 is a 6/10 overhyped by casuals.
I have antijapan fatigue
All of the characters have completely different mechanics. It's cool.
>>732082668yeah, it's like cool Japanese media, as opposed to goonerslop.
>>732085014You clearly don't, if you have the energy to read whatever retarded shit is going on in that pic
>>732058220>Zacharias Assmongoy
>>732085136>pic talks about antijapan shit thats been in overdrive for the past year and a half>retarded shit
>E33 threads are nothing but shitposting now
>>732084882unnamed 6/10 games don't sell >3 million copies.you niggers can seethe and cope and day, it won't change this fact.
>>732085350It's literally a Judeo-Masonic industry plant tho. The shills are still too obvious and desperate to get people to pretend it's amazing.
>>732083028>>7320839951. The character designs aren't iconic. They look like real, somewhat average people, and they wear the same uniform.2. There isn't a lot of interaction with them in the game.3. Their personalities aren't drawn broadly and they don't have catchphrases (unless you're talking about the non-human characters).4. There isn't a strongly defined dynamic between any of them. Their strongest relationships are with characters you never even meet.
>>732085740That makes a lot of sense, E33 is a very plot and theme oriented game but outside of the two focus characters there isn't a lot going on.
IMO, Verso is one of the best vidya protagonists of all time. He has an insane amount of depth.
>>732083028>>732083995>game has filtered gooners and coombrains This is a good thing
>>732063205No, it's called being correct.>>732064453No, idiot. Nintendo is the publisher and developer. They are the corporation.>I fail to see how that's relevant for anything.Because it keeps getting called a JRPG when it isn't one.>Name one better JRPG. You can't.Shadow Hearts>Why do you know so many spics?They're the majority of english speaking people online in the circles I'm a part of.I understand that you people are retarded because you like art that is inherently dishonest and devoid of soul but I need you to understand that you are the easily exploitable human cattle goyim that the jews talk about in their holy texts if you like this game.
>>732085974>great developed characters in this gameverso, pAlicia, renoir>okalicia, esquie, monoco, clea>whateveraline>painted trashlune, sciel, cuckstave
>>732085740Maelle’s design I think will become iconic with time. Especially since she’s the face of the game. You can also see how each of the girls could fit into an anime archetype. Maelle is the hotheaded, whiny teen, Lune is the smart and autistic one, and Sciel is the cocky tomboy. The only difference I feel is that they’re not the flanderised versions of these archetypes that you see in alot of mid-tier anime, and they’re more muted versions of these archetypes with their own character depth applied on top.
>>732059393>YOU HATE JRPGS IF YOU LIKE E33That's my first assumption yes.It's like someone who likes Avatar the last Airbender a little too much. I assume you think there's something shameful about liking the Japanese equivalent.
>>732058079Why christian Africans specifically
>>732086132I don't give a shit if it's an indie game or a JRPG. How about that?
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>>732086806god i want a french asian gf
>>732058220I don't care about the opinion of a fucker who literally cannot eat fruits and vegetables.
>>732086512That's fine but you have to understand why people don't like it when a game that isn't these things is advertised as both. The fans of these things don't like it when things are lied about.
I don't play French games
>>732058079>jap metal>actually metallmao
>>732087162>JRPG definition seethe You never read Frindel as a kid did you?
>>732087187I love French games
>>732087269>FrindelNo I don't know what that is. I don't really care though as I don't adhere to how the average person defines things, I define them for myself as an individual.I am also not seething, I am very calmly articulating my thoughts as a fan of these things and I also criticized the game in my original post.I give you permission to kill yourself when your mother dies though.
>>732087162literally none of it matters. A good game is a good game.
>>732061683>>PyraYou mean Homura you disgusting OEP secondary tourist.
its a mediocre game for zoomer who dont play video games. who cares?
>>732087587based game
>>732057985Because it's true, it was always the opposite of >thing japan
dont french people get extremely assmad over calling your alcohol 'champagne' if it wasn't brewed in the champagne region of france
>>732057985E33 is as generic as it gets.
>>732087643But I think it's bad regardless of the things I said about it's advertising points. I think the game is actually terrible in or outside of both contexts. If it was an indie game it'd be a really bad indie game, bug fables is better. If it was a JRPG it's a bad JRPG, I could list a ton of games that were and still are better.The Legend of Dragoon for instance. >>732087882Yes. They also are the most pretentious people so bringing up that the game isn't a JRPG is only fair.
>>732087881And yet everyone loves Mario, Sonic, MGS, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Dark Souls etc.It is very specifically bad shitty games and pedoslop that people don't like.
>>732065263Batman hasn't been for kids in decades
Are weebs the most sensitive fanbase on the planet? Nobody even mentions them and they get angry and defensive.
>>732088104Batman is literally for brown people. Jarpigs too ever since P5 and zoomer tranime.
>>732088082Sonic isn't Japanese, he's an American stereotype
>>732087985>well highly regarded PS1 game from the 90's is good!Yeah. No one said it wasn't.When was the last time we got one of those out of Japan?
Why do fans of E33 keep making these threads? https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/8uQhePU8oJ4EU7dSYnqC2A/
>>732087604Ditto for you with your mom
>>732088196it's literally falseflag threads, tourist-kun
>>732059982>post hasn't been updated for Enchant FarmOtherwise, based copypasta
>>732088263>caught trying to force a narrative about weebs hating E33>it's just le falseflag broOP is a fag.
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>>732088609she's so perfectwhat kind of asian is she?
>>732088187I would argue we get them all the time.SMTVV, Resonance of Fate, Shadow Hearts, Bravely Default 2, NEO:The World Ends With You, SaGa 2 remake, The alliance alive. So many JRPGs come out constantly.
>>732088817indochinese most likely
>>732057985Nice talking points but the fans of a genre tend to be fans of things common to that genre. You don't get brownie points just for being different.
>>732067817>same with hollow knight. it's a mediocre unfun metroidvania funkopop flash game but since it steals from japan they pretend it's a masterpiece to move sales to western devsAnon Hollow Knight had real people playing and liking the game nobody was paid to like the game or to promote it.The E33 hype was manufactured the fans who play the game don't really like it, they just pretend to like the game so they are not excluded from the e33 fandom The same goes for YouTubers, except some of them are paid by the E33 team to advertise the game.
>>732088817>>732089085Half-Japanese according to the studio.
>>732089492But I played it and liked it?And I do boot up a lot of JRPGs, but usually fail to finish them.They have too much bloat, and the writing tends to be a bit flat once you've played one of them. The last one I beat fully was Xenoblade, which was like fine, but not fantastic.
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>>732057985Because you faggots are insufferable, that's why. Fuck off. This is why people gatekeep, because faggots like you join in and become annoying.
>fight a boss>learn his pattern>use defend when he uses his super move>if you don't try to learn the pattern and strategize around it, you'll dieAny other games where the defend command is useful? Pic related is a great example.
>>732059982>Zill O'll Infinite+ absolutely mogs any WRPG in terms of reactivity and choicesI will never understand japanese devs sometimes>make JRPG with choices and different origins and shit>give it a gritty dark fantasy aesthetic instead of anime aesthetic.>never release it in the west despite it being the exact kind of game western RPG fans would like>"gee why did this flop?">Growlanser games are literally infinity engine games in an anime art style made for consoles and not limited by shitty D&D rules, much more choices than any Obsidian or Bioware too.Also way better encounter design than the infinity engine games. Only downside is the anime artstyle. I prefer dark/medieval fantasy stuff. Having kawaii anime fairies kind of makes me cringe a bit.
No one HATES E33, they can just see through the bullshit. It's a mediocre game that has been astroturfed harder than any other game in the history of vidya. Also the fans are the worst fanbase imaginable.
>>732089901People who are deep into the japanophile zone have clamed JRPGs as their space and so don't interact with any media outside of the sphere.So E33's popularity feels fake to them because they just cannot comprehend it.
>>732090681Exactly. I thought it was a pretty decent game, aside from the terrible use of Persona social link elements. Then I witnessed the soulless marketing campaign and the fake hype machine. Then I interacted with the fanbase. I genuinely can't think of a worse fanbase than this one.
>hey this is pretty good, i like this>you mother fucker that's so annoyingIs this really the argument? lmao
>>732091016"I interacted with the fanbase and wished I didn't" is a universal experience online, regardless of what you're into.
>>732057985>bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loop,But that's exactly what E33 is?
>>732064983xenogears story is overratedthe ideas are good, but it's terribly executed and no one ever contests it because actually "playing" the game is a miserable experience
>>732057985video games are a stupid waste of time.
Where are you people even interacting with these supposed fanbases? Do you just squat on Discords or something?I buy a game, play it, maybe go and see if people are talking about it on /v/.>>732091662People were though. You can check back and find people being like "hey, that looks cool", the second it was announced. A lot of old FF fans were cheering for a new turn based game. This is literally something that happened, that you're trying to brush under the carpet for some reason.
>>732057985>Complains about E33 fans enjoying their first jrpg>Has xenoblade avatarThe irony is almost palpable
>>732057985The game isnt any different then its contemporary's from a gameplay aspect. Its an artstyle thing the west still views anime as cringe still even though the japanese are perfectly capable of telling good stories with that artstyle and even forgoing it with how Final Fantasy has become.The only thing left is that its clearly bias.
I swear 90% of the claims of E33 fans somehow being JRPG haters is just falseflagging by actual JRPG haters or maybe even anti-E33 propaganda by Ubisoft or other orgs who felt slighted by a newer, younger player. The idea that it'd be genuine somehow makes 0 fucking sense. The game is made by a bunch of JRPG fans, and it absolutely shows in how the game is designed. The fans of E33 are fans of the same games the devs drew inspiration from. It's the only thing that'd make sense. And yet threads here and social media posts elsewhere, are constantly made claiming E33 fans hates the games that E33 is modelled after.
>>7320616832oomers have terminally shit taste. Xenoblade should have ended with 1.
>>732092343it's literally people who exclusively play anime games, and think that's what Japanese games are.Even most Final Fantasy games don't really look anime.
>>732091016Name 1 good "fanbase".
Anime in and of itself isn't really a problem either. But if you start complaining when they take the anime away, then you have laughably narrow tastes, and something is wrong with you.You claim to love Japanese games, but do you even play Resident Evil, at that point? Do you even play Fromsoft games? Do you play Tekken or Ace Combat?
>>732091845>Where are you people even interacting with these supposed fanbases?/v/ is the only place since reddit twitter and tumblr are the places where you can find fake fans defending a product they dont know jackshit about it and pretend that it the best jrpg in the planet.>A lot of old FF fans were cheering for a new turn based game.Anon are you talking about the people who were watching the stream live or the people who were in the event ?
>>732093025When it was initially announced, and the days following, yes.
>>732092214The Japanese are capable of telling good stories, but they haven’t done so in awhile, instead opting to pander to waifufags and coomers. E33 is the kind of story they USED to tell.
>>732057985It's a good comparison but ironically because it's true in the opposite way normies who spout that shit see it. Eminem is the most commercially successful rap artist of all time because it was an outsider who was able to correct a lot of the problems of the genre and capitalize on social trends while everyone else just worked on autopilot.E33 is literally the exact same. RPG's have been the same shitty plots made by the same three companies for like twenty years. Even supposedly "GOAT" RPG's are so dated and on the nose at this point that there are very few games that can actually compete with E33 on any basis.
>>732093442Not really. They still tell mature stories and anyone saying otherwise is a liar.
>>732093842list them. Games made in the past five years.The best that comes to mind is Death Stranding, which is not an RPG, and has Kojima levels of dumb writing, but it's at least interesting.
>>732093442I don't think E33 has amazing writing, but it's different enough from the usual (both east and west) that it's a breath of fresh air. Like, even if Sandfall maintains the same quality standard for future games, people will eventually say they've lost it, just because any style gets old once you get wise to its tricks, same as what's happened to JRPGs.
>>732067779I miss Quentin
>>732093957Metaphor: ReFantazio, Unicorn Overlord, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, Wizardry: The Five Ordeals, SaGa Emerald Beyond, Visions of Mana, Fantasian Neo Dimension, Fuga: Melodies of Steel 2.I could go on for hours but you're gonna say none of these are good enough despite not having played most of them.
>>732093837This. Even some of the best JRPGs tend to have juvenile storytelling. E33’s story is more mature and nuanced than most, which isn’t a high bar, but it’s at least on par with a genuinely good fantasy novel.
>>732094807No it isn't? Good fantasy outperforms all games because the story is the only thing to it and the rest is filled in with your mind.
>>732093442thats a load of shit I just played metaphor not too long ago and that games story was the tits, there are some characters that could be handled better but the games story doesnt suffer TOO much from the covid development cycle. Easily one of Atluses best games harkening back to Digital Devil Saga.
>>732094771>Atlus gamestried them. Not my thing>super basic looking strategy games, dungeon crawlers, remakes of old gamesNot really what I'm looking for.>Yakuza gamesI like these, but they make three of them every year, and I don't have the stamina.>fantasianthat just looks gay>Visions of ManaMight actually play that, but it looks like something for kids
>>732057985>>732058157I care not for this game but the fact that it makes troons and faggots seethe makes me smirk just a little bit.
>>732057985Well they're right, Expedition 33 just allowed the latent anti-Japanese bias from the 2000s to come back. Every time Japan has some level of cultural clout it happens. It's just an extension of the same shit from the '80s and early '90s.
>>732095340No one's saying Japan can't make good games. They're saying they wish they would make better games more often.
>>732095191You don't know what you're looking for, you like dogshit like Clair Obscur. I don't care anymore nigger.
>>732095340Anti-Japanese bias is earned, just like anti-Western bias is earned. There's no use playing the victim about it.
I like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Expedition 33 but I do hate people born in 1999.
>>732059982This is a truly schizophrenic pasta. Also, there is no such thing as a WRPG.
>>732095708I said I liked Death Stranding, in spite of it being kind of retardedly written.Where is the JRPG equivalent of Death Stranding?
>>732057985The only people who like this game are faggot tranny weebs, aka all J"RPG" faggots and anime watches, also all trannies. There is however, a small subset of obvious white soiboys who also like this game who only play WARPIGs and think it's Le DeeP, the irony of them playing a literal japslop made by eurotrash is hilarious
>>732057985>Generic GameplayThe 'gameplay' was an entire game of QTEs. It's not even parryslop, at least you and the camera move in that. It is just three niggas in a line waiting for the QTE prompt or they take damage.
>>732087697>NOOO WHY ARE THEY CALLING IT WATER IN THE LOCALIZATION, IT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE 水(みぜ)
>>732094771>Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealthdogshit soap opera garbage>metafloplol>unicorn overfloppoor mans FE that will never get a sequel
feels good waking up every morning with White skin and thus being a huge fan of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
>>732096261I don't only play "WARPIGs". If anything, I predominantly play Japanese arcade games, and narrative driven action games. I literally will dip into any genre. I have eclectic tastes. I played JRPGs a lot when I was a kid, simply because I was a kid, and they were thriving as a genre back then.
>>732095894I mean, I’ve never played E33 and I’m a weeb, but this still is fucking weeb shit
>this won GOTY at TGA 2025
>>732097805that's awesome
>>732095894Are FFVII, Persona 3, Trails in the Sky, Metaphor, Dragon Quest XI, Unicorn Overlord, Xenoblade 3, and SMTV not weeb shit? Can't speak for all those other ones, though, but they look pretty weeby.
>>732097805You got something against Paper Mario and/or French existentialism, anon?
>>732097805no it didn't because that content became available AFTER the awards, fucking retard
>>732058157>intentionally cut off the likes because he's embarrassed he scraped the replies to screencap some nobody tranny
>>732058157trannies hating jews is so funny, the only thing a troon can hate more than itself is that which created it
>>732095340If Japan kept its 90s culture their would be no complaints.
>>732099149I'd love it if Japan was still regularly making awesome shit like Parasite Eve, Dead of the Brain, or even Hybrid Heaven.This is what the babby weebs out there don't get. Japan actually used to be really really cool.Kojima is like the only guy still putting out stuff that feels rooted in that era of Japanese media.
>>732098608>Are FFVII, Persona 3, Trails in the Sky, Metaphor, Dragon Quest XI, Unicorn Overlord, Xenoblade 3, and SMTV not weeb shit?No
>Do a ton of Hollywood celeb worshipping>"Kojima is like the only guy still putting out stuff that feels rooted in that era of Japanese media."lmao
>>732064983>gameplay category in JRPG awards
>>732064983>Chained EchoesIsn't that the one where some random dickhead betrays you and becomes king of everything, and you feel so bad for him that you turn into a bird?
>>732057985>nooooooo how dare they call my poser ass outcry harder
still funny how the devs used weebslop as inspiration
>>732100519Yeah, hard-boiled awesome shit that feels inspired by action movies, and people like John Carpenter or David Chronenberg. Body horror, transhumanism, cyberpunk, conspiracy themes.That's awesome. It's not just gay weebshit about pretty catboys and wanting to fuck your own sister.
>>732101595Almost like the developers like those games.With how small the team is, don't be surprised if they go out of their way to lean into those out spite for people like (You) for their next project.
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>they're STILL making threads
33 is based for making autistic seethe
