>Two twelve year olds manage to cover up a murder and fool all of the adults around them including the police for four years and we're also supposed to believe they were just forgiven at end.
>I'm supposed to believe that Sunny and Mari never fucked
>>732120687Video games would be boring as fuck if people like you got your way. I don't even think stories would exist at all in that scenario because any time someone tries to write a story there'd be assholes like you nitpicking it into oblivion. Just admit that fiction isn't for you.
>>732120687I wonder if, after the sunny good ending headspace just slowly fades away as sunny slowly forgets about it to focus on his adult life and everyone in it eventually dies
>>732120843>What is suspension of disbelief
Headspace Aubrey is the sexiest woman of all time.
>>732120996>>732121184Hope omocat sees this bro>>732121321That is MariWho is canonically alive and has bedbreaking sex with Sunny every night
>>732120687>and we're also supposed to believe they were just forgiven at end.To be fair that's entirely up to your own interpretation.I agree the first part is a tad silly, but I suppose it's somewhat possible if only her neck snapped when she died or something
>>732120687>trying to reason with shotacon fujos
>>732120687Sunny's parents knew what happened I'm sure they told the cops not to perform the autopsy on Mari. It would explain why Sunny's dad left
>>732120687I feel very confident you did not actually play the game.
>>732122040There's no proof they knew. The only "evidence" is what Sunny's dad says in Black Space but this isn't reliable since it's just Sunny's own mind.
>>732120784No, you're supposed to believe they did
>>732122438Well by that logic I guess most of the game didn't happen and Mari just moved away to college or something.
>>732120687I honestly don't think it's so far fetched that the authorities would not consider foul play when it's such an open and close case. Middle class white girls kill themselves all the time.
>>732122640What proof that they knew?
>>732123250I just don't know why you'd assume Sunny completely made up that detail but not any of the other ones.
>>732120687The emotional impact is severely lessened by how ridiculous it is.The staged hanging is comically stupid."She fell down the stairs" is all you fucking need.
>>732120687You can't expect good writing from a hue shotacon
Thanks for reminding me that I still have to complete the Omori route
>>732123569How would sex with Aubrey feel like?
>>732123478It's not supposed to be smart, it's supposed to be something some extremely panicky children would do while they overcompensate for attempting not to be caught.
>>732121184Something no one on /v/ has.
>>732123569i never did it either. couldn't bring myself to replay it after the ending, but probably could do it these years later
>>732120687>fool all of the adults around them including the police for four yearsIntentionally kept under wraps in an attempt to not (further) ruin a kid's life for a stupid mistake. >we're also supposed to believe they were just forgiven at end.Nah, you're supposed to believe he finally confronted the truth and told his friends what really happened. It's clearly left intentionally ambiguous what comes of that. And that's fine, because the point isn't whether or not they ever do forgive him, the point is that accepting it happened is a necessary first step for him to actually move on.
>>732124335>it's left ambiguousWhy do creators think this is profound or interesting? It's just unsatisfying 99% of the time.
>>732120784>Im supposed to believe that Sunny and Aubrey didnt get to fuck after the ending
>>732120843Or maybe writers could just write believable stories that'd be cool too>>732122040>told the cops to not perform to not perform an autopsyLol, fucking lol. A teen with no history of depression dies and you think they're not checking the body? This shit game's story is completely non-sensical
>>732121321Truth
>make thread with false information>people correct you the correct information>"NUH UH DOESN'T COUNT AND IT SUCKS ANYWAY"why even make the thread?
>>732125771Nigga who are you even replying to? If you're >>732122040 then yeah it's a retarded cope, anyone going close to the body should have noticed the physical trauma from LETHALLY falling from the stairs. Omori's parents telling the cops to not perform the autopsy would've have made them much more likely to perform one if anything, this twist is simply one of the most retarded story element I've seen in a vidya ever.
>>732126045>Nigga who are you even replying to?
>>732124872>>732126045the cops performed an autopsy but didn't prosecute, it's very simple
>>732120843autistics are fucking annoying and need to be bullied into submission like we used to do back thenITS A FUCKING VIDEOGAME YOU PLAY AS A GAY BOY SHOOTING RAINBOWS AND FIGHTING THE EARTH NO ONE CARESi hope op gets his balls twisted up
>>732120687>>732126387bro why didn't sunny just use his iphone and post a video of the scary eye monster on tiktok? lil nigga woulda made bank frthis game is fucking stupid and makes no sense
>>732126486tiktok was not invented yet baka
>>732126549vine then, whatever you uncs used
>>732126582nigga they on some boomer shit90s to early 2000s at the lastest
>>732126372Then everyone in town would have known, which is not the case. Also the parents would have definitely been prosecuted if they tried to cover up Involuntary manslaughter
Bro why didn't Sunny just tell his big sis what's wrong so she could hug him and kiss his forehead and soothe him with hot sweaty sexThis game is fucking stupid and makes no sense
OP is genuinely one of those retarded youtube commenters that will watch a clip of a show and be like "This is so dumb I would've just sued Bruce Wayne" or whatever.
>>732120687>>732120784Incest oneeshota sex
>>732126769>>732126864>no argumentConcession status : accepted.
>>732120784No? Omocat is a notorious shotacon. Of course they fucked.
>>732120687>and fool all of the adultsAbout that...
Ok retards, where's the gameplay ?
>>732126991It's rpg maker trash
>>732126907All the reasonable arguments have been dismissed already so I'd rather just make fun of you.
>>732127050>still no argumentMight as well kill yourself at this point, you're just wasting bandwith.
>>732127094It's kept you from shitting up a good thread so whateva my nigga
>>732126673>Then everyone in town would have known, which is not the casewhy would the police publicise it?
>>732127173>still no argument>the omori shitter is so fucking braindead he doesn't realize that it takes no time to write these repliesI'm starting to see a pattern here.
>>732127209Why would they lie about it in the necrology and report?
>>732127320why would they publicise those?
Bump
>>732130042but at least post an image!
>>732124335Then the entire town would know which they don't.
>>732120843>errmmm stop making fun of the plotholes!you are the reason we get slop
>>732120687If you were half a smart as you thought you were you would have put two and two together and realized why there are no adults in the dreams and why Basil keeps disapearing are the same.
>>732131021Anon, nobody else knows except the parents.
>>732131285Yes, and they do not appear in the dream world outside of a few areas in black space.
>>732131590There would be obvious evidence that Mari didn't kill herself and immediate investigation would follow. It's nearly impossible for Mari to even have died in the way that the game depicts. How does Basil even know how to tie a noose? Why would he even think to try disguise Mari's death as a suicide? Nothing about his character in the game up until Mari's death suggests that he's insane enough to do do this. Mari's death is fucking ridiculous and breaks all suspension of disbelief.
>>732120784
I just started playing the game, let me finish it and I will discuss it, I'm on the backstage part.
>>732124430Because they’re not autists and want to leave room for everyone to be satisfied with thinking of whatever comes next for the characters.
>>732126387>>732120843>>732124335The issue with this argument is that OMORI creates (or at least tries to create) a direct delineation between the fantastical dream world, where everything can happen, and the real world, which aims to be more grounded and believable than that. Through elements such as Sunny's stats being worse than Omori's, the scene with cutting Aubrey in the park and the real world's food restoring little to no health to the party, the game trains the player to expect the events in its "real world" to operate on a logic fairly close to that of our real world. Two 12-year-olds immediately deciding to cover up a murder instead of doing literally anything else (like, for example, calling 911) goes directly against this logic, regardless of any in-universe justifications the game might try to conjure - if you present the audience with a grounded setting, repeatedly affirm how grounded it is and then have something as outlandish as the cover-up happen, that is objectively bad writing.
>>732132680Nice
Deltarune is Omori’s story done right sorry to say
hide retarded tranny threads
>>732133415you don't even know what happened in the past yet
>>732133958I doubt it'll be as stupid as two 12 year olds hanging someone
>>732134074it will have magic be involved and thus you will praise it as kino
>>732134325I know you were joking there but magic is unironically better because you don't have to explain shit and people are willing to just accept it because its cool.I still think Omori's climax is excellent btw but i think how we get there with the hanging is asking the player to accept a lot. Even if Sunny was 15 when it happened i'd be willing to buy it more
>>732122040 The father says this in BLACK SPACE, so it's not entirely clear whether this is something that the boy just fears or imagines or believes he deserves in contrast to something that his father actually said to him.The father could have left because of knowing but he could've left for other reasons, too. Families broke over far less than the death of a child. He -may- not even be gone at all and we simply don't hear anything about him during the game. Could be he works abroad or is absent atm for other reasons. Additionally, I could see the father in BLACK SPACE simply saying that to the OMORI persona rather than the SUNNY persona.If the parents DO know, it still seems a bit odd nobody else does. Seems to me the news would have a field day with a child killing their older sister and trying to cover it up as a suicide, especially with the cover-up involving another child. Dunno how easily something like that could be kept out of the papers for non-rich people and even then.
>>732132450>There would be obvious evidence that Mari didn't kill herself and immediate investigation would follow.Yes, and that's what is implied happened.>It's nearly impossible for Mari to even have died in the way that the game depicts.People dying from small falls isn't exactly uncommon. We're durable, but falling wrong can be instant death and even if the fall wasn't fatal and just a skull fracture or concussion Sunny moving her to the bed like he did guaranteed her death.>Nothing about his character in the game up until Mari's death suggests that he's insane enough to do do this.He literally tells you his thought process and several moments in the real world imply he was always a troubled indivual.
>>732120687> Fooled the parents and the police. They didn't.Sunny's parents knew what happened, which is why headspace dad says "You're not my son" while cutting down the tree and why he left to begin with.It's something that he said to Sunny at one point, and Omori remembered itPolice knew too, they figured out that it was an accident and kids just covered it up, given their age, they can't be prosecuted, but again, Sunny's parents probably did not want to make the situation worse by ruining Sunny's and Basil's lifes and letting everyone know they've killed Mari.
>>732134758>Yes, and that's what is implied happened.Where are you getting this from? Your headcanon is not an answer.>People dying from small falls isn't exactly uncommon. We're durable, but falling wrong can be instant death and even if the fall wasn't fatal and just a skull fracture or concussion Sunny moving her to the bed like he did guaranteed her death.It's not common, especially for people in Mari's age bracket. She would have easily been able to catch herself or do something other than what happened. Not even mentioning how the fall would produce injuries that the hanging as shown wouldn't be able to.>He literally tells you his thought process and several moments in the real world imply he was always a troubled indivual.Cite textual examples, and not fan headcanon.
>>732134582Dialogue in the real world confirms that all the hangman game blackspace areas did happen.
>>732120784Well, there is some cut Mari dialogue that implies that at some point in development, their relationship maaaaaybe had something sinister behind the closed door.
>>732134951Headspace Mom also seems to indicate that they knew; she says something like “My only daughter is gone, and you are my only son. I can’t lose you too.” and why else would she say it like that.
>>732120687It's strongly implied that the parents were not fooled.
>>732135110That was just Omocat fingering herself to her kink then having a moment of clarity
>>732135110Sauce?
>>732135424“It was an accident! I don’t want [you] to get in trouble!” seems like a fairly realistic starting point.Actually moving the body and successfully hanging it maybe less so, but I don’t think all stories need to use the most probable sequence of events and it is a reason why I think the mainstream fanbase gives them too much leeway. They committed an accidental murder and tried to cover it up; maybe they deserve to feel a little awful.
>>732135756>Actually moving the body and successfully hanging it maybe less so, but I don’t think all stories need to use the most probable sequence of events and it is a reason why I think the mainstream fanbase gives them too much leeway. They committed an accidental murder and tried to cover it up; maybe they deserve to feel a little awful.12 year-olds, especially one of Basil's caliber don't typically know how to tie a noose, and considering his character and background. Make utterly zero sense for soft sensitive boy who likes gardening to come up with such a horrific plan without prior knowledge.
>>732134951>they figured out that it was an accident and kids just covered it up, given their ageIt wasn't an accident. Sunny clearly and intentionally pushed her down the stairs in a moment of anger. Even if he wasn't intending to kill her.
>>732120843>game has a shit story>someone points out that the game, in fact, has a shit story>NOOOOOO, FUCK OFF! STOP NOTICING WEAK STORYTELLING! STOP HAVING STANDARDS AND JUST LET ME JACK OFF TO INCEST FANART!!!!Yeah. Okay, buddy.
>>732135826his granma was watching true crime dramas eariler that week
>>732135826I don’t completely disagree with you, but I think we are meant to be reading more into Basil than “soft, sensitive boy who likes gardening” even though that’s how most of the characters perceive him. He objectively knew how to tie a noose (even if we don’t know exactly why), his rambling about “something behind you” being at fault scans like actual delusion with Sunny trying to play along with it…I do think there could be a stronger version of the story where we know real-world Basil better. Even then some people might wonder how they managed to get Mari off the ground.
this thread is boringdid you guys ever see that one fic where it was a fast and the furious crossover where Hero had to bean Maris dad in a motorcycle race so hed stop fucking his daughter
>>732136032>fatefag saying game has a shit storyUm... Gilgamesh is so powerful, he could annihilate every other character at his whimWh-what...? Why did he lose then...? He just uh... He just got overconfident, that's allHe always gets overconfident and always loses in fact. Yep, totally belivable
>>732135068>Where are you getting this from?Common sense. We know his parents know, now ask yourself how did they find out.>She would have easily been able to catch herself Nice fanfiction on what Mari could have done :). In reality she had a bad leg, lost her balance when pushed, and got unlucky. There would be nothing for her to do. Even if it was not fatal and was just a concussion Sunny dragging her up the stairs and leaving her without proper care for god knows how long would have done her in. Accidents happening and people handling it poorly isn't some outlandish concept.>Cite textual examplesDialogue implying he always had that weird obsession with things needing to be perfect, parents are not involved in his life, no friends before or after the group, dying Grandma, and Polly couldn't get close to him despite knowing him for a few years.
>>732120687More absurd things have happened in real life, so...
>>732120687so basically 13 Reasons Why?
>>732137518>Common sense. We know his parents know, now ask yourself how did they find out.How do we know his parents knew? Never answered, never explained. Did they come home and find it? Did Sunny call them and tell them? Nothing of this is ever stated.>Nice fanfiction on what Mari could have done :). In reality she had a bad leg, lost her balance when pushed, and got unlucky. There would be nothing for her to do. Even if it was not fatal and was just a concussion Sunny dragging her up the stairs and leaving her without proper care for god knows how long would have done her in. Accidents happening and people handling it poorly isn't some outlandish concept.Anon, it is extremely rare for someone of Mari's age to die because of something as simple as falling down the stairs. The scenario the game presents as is is completely improbable.>Dialogue implying he always had that weird obsession with things needing to be perfect, parents are not involved in his life, no friends before or after the group, dying Grandma, and Polly couldn't get close to him despite knowing him for a few years.Lol, so that makes him insane enough that the first thing he tries to do is frame Mari's death as a suicide instead of just... you know.. calling the fucking police???? You Omori fans are your insane retardation never cease to amaze.
>>732120784I'm in desperate need of more Mari if you're here Cabron.
>>732134758>People dying from small falls isn't exactly uncommonFirst, the details don't line up with the story's own logic. Omori actively and concretely asks the audience to look at a realistic death in a real town as a jumping off point to discuss the characters' overcoming of grief and trauma after said tragedy. The reveal of the truth of the night where Sunny kills Mari is the climax of the game's story. If the events cannot occur in the real world, then the story does not have internally consistent logic, since we expect the story to operate like real life.Second, Mari does not die from magic, she dies from ostensibly a "realistic" fall in a universe indiscernible from our own. Yes, it being completely impossible does have a tangible effect on the story, and absolutely detracts from the ability of the narrative to be compelling to the audience.
It was all basil's fault btw.
>There's no way Mari could have died falling down stairs.My house has a laminate wood floor and a big set of stairs and the amount of times I've busted my ass by wearing socks and slipping is too much, I could absolutely fucking die if I fell down it without being ready to grab something, people are injured and die from stairs all the time.But it's even worse to consider that Mari was alive after the stairs but Basil ended up finishing her off with the jump rope shit.
>>732138591>How do we know his parents knew? Never answered, never explained.Admitting you are too stupid to remember what the game literally tells you and that your autism needs exposition dumps because you can not fathom how would parents that were going to pick up their kids find out isn't a good case for your point.>Anon, it is extremely rare for someone of Mari's age to diePeople being as stupid as you is also incredibly rare, but here we are.>Lol, so that makes him insane enough that the first thing he tries to do is frame Mari's death as a suicideDamn, why did the isolated child with absentee parents turn out weird?>>732139604>your point is actually headcanon and has no bearing on anything>anyway here's my fanfiction on what should have happenedOkay
Read the manga
>>732138591>>732140586https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2769810/Falls accounts for 5.9% deaths in children. Rare indeed, but noy unheard of. Besides, the poor handling of Mari's unconscious body by Sunny is the real cause of death here.>Lol, so that makes him insane enough that the first thing he tries to do is frame Mari's death as a suicide instead of just... you know.. calling the fucking police???? You Omori fans are your insane retardation never cease to amaze. You Omori fans are your insane retardation never cease to amaze.Litterally yes? Omori is a story about unstable individuals, the main character being especially insane. This is also why it resonates so much with neurodivergent people.
>>732140821>But it's even worse to consider that Mari was alive after the stairs but Basil ended up finishing her off with the jump rope shit.People really seem to miss this possibility. That the fall, in fact, was NOT fatal, but the boys panicked and did something incredibly stupid, and that ended up REALLY killing her off. With the last light from her eyes fading as she stares ahead, hanged from a tree.
>>732140867>Admitting you are too stupid to remember what the game literally tells you and that your autism needs exposition dumps because you can not fathom how would parents that were going to pick up their kids find out isn't a good case for your point.>no argument>People being as stupid as you is also incredibly rare, but here we are.>No argument >Damn, why did the isolated child with absentee parents turn out weird?>No argument Omoritards everyone.
>>732141172That's pure headcanon, retard. >"She's not breathing." The game itself tells you she died by falling first. What is up with Omori fans and dismissing criticism with flimsy theories and subjective interpretations with no basis?
>>732140964>Litterally yes? Omori is a story about unstable individuals, the main character being especially insane. This is also why it resonates so much with neurodivergent people.Okay, so what in the game shows that Basil is insane enough to know how to tie a noose, let alone come up with a plan like this?
>>732141172That doesn't make sense because then the majority of the blame would be shifted to Basil instead. When it's clear Omori has a ton of the blame.
You could probably write a whole dissertation on the phenomenon of weebs excusing dogshit writing entirely on the basis of the story involving children and anime aesthetics. Or just “it has thing that makes my peepee funny,” like that fleeting obsession with Mouthwashing.
>>732141460>CALLING ME OUT FOR NOT KNOWING BASIC DETAILS ISNT AN ARGUMENT>S-STOP CALLING ME STUPID YOURE STUPIDXD>>732141582Actually the game is unclear if she died from the fall or later in the bed. Sunny says she looks like she's sleeping at first and later it's implied they found out ahe died when she was on the bed, but that could have just been when him and Basil confirmed she actually died. Either way the theory she died from the hanging is retarded.
>>732142976Okay so what are these basic details? Enlighten me.
>>732142296Listen to what you're saying, man. Bro pushed his sister down the stairs and he thinks he killed her, and now you think he could stomach just shifting all that blame onto his friend because technically they ended up dealing the killing blow?No matter what scenario was the actual truth of what happened, shit's way fucked up.
>>732143430The game proves you wrong. It says that she's not breathing.
>>732143590>It says that she's not breathing.And...?Finish your train of thought, will ya, anon.
>>732138591>How do we know his parents knew? Never answered, never explained. Did they come home and find it? Did Sunny call them and tell them? Nothing of this is ever stated.Dude she fell down a flight of stairs and was immediately hung from a tree pulley-style, while their son was in catatonic hysterics. It's so fucking obvious that anyone would realize what happened.Not to mention that they literally state that the parents knew IN GAME.
>>732144409>in gameWhere?
>>732144043It also wouldn't make any sense story wise because the majority of the blame would be put on Basil when the game goes out of its way to show you that Sunny is the cause of it.
>>732145027In Black Space, but clearly you don't know that and are just repeating shit from a twitter thread or some YouTube essay.
>>732142551The story itself isn't that good but the twist and the way the plot develops makes it good
That was one of the few problems I had with the gameThe other one being how painfully long the last stretch of the game is. I know people like to say it's tedious and long on purpose because that's sunny delaying the inevitable realization of the truth, but stillPeople shit on omori too much. It's a very decent game
>>732145489I think the reason so many shit on it is because it could have been a great game, but instead we got a fine one. Headspace is 100% filler
>>732140964Anon, she was in her teens not her single digits.
>>732143430>>732137518>>732135756Make utterly zero sense for soft sensitive boy who likes gardening to come up with such a horrific plan without prior knowledge. The fact that you think you can shove his criticism away cause its a "personal interpretation" yet don't see that issue in your own arguments is mind boggling. Stop using assumptions as hard evidence. It's annoying. If Basil being too good of a person ran entirely against the games message, then maybe the game has awful writing, cause sorry, why would a good person hang a body? Why did you think that was good argument is beyond me. That's not a reasonable thing to do, and I find it hard to believe anyone would actual forgive that. He directly helped in desecrating not only Maris' body, but her memory as well. Basil is a criminal who consciously committed a crime, and lied to his friends about it for 4 years. Maybe actually show some skepticism and not be biased for once. Stop asserting your opinion as fact. Just because you thought it made sense, does not mean it actually does.
>>732120687The parents knew per Sunny's dreamscape. It's not clear how they got the local authorities to write off her death as suicide, but I assume there was bribery/corruption. Omori is about Sunny finding the courage to tell the truth, and the ending is ambiguous enough for you to envision whatever resulting consequences you see fit. I choose to believe Omori and Basil went to prison.
>>732122640This is the best outcome.
>>732146824Anon, the problem is that what the game presents as Mari's actual death is completely unrealistic and on top of that, there's several problems logistically with this. The police would have found out what happened almost immediately because her injuries wouldn't be consistent with a normal noose hanging, they'd be consistent with a fall or drop hanging. How does Basil even know how to tie a noose? Why does he think of this plan instead of immediately calling 911 or trying and failing to do CPR or something like that? What in Basil's character was showcased beforehand that he'd ever think of doing something like that? He's not just traumatized, he's actively choosing to do it. The parents would have been arrested, Sunny would have been put in juvenile detention or a mental hospital. This whole thing is ridiculous and it breaks suspension of disbelief and logic the second you really sit down and start thinking about it.
>>732146630Your mistake is in insisting it all has to "make sense". The whole debacle is a chain of senseless acts committed by two boys who got thrust into an unreasonable situation through one thoughtless mistake. People do senseless things with far less pressure on them.
>>732148163This isn't real life. These are characters and what they're doing has to make sense, especially since Omori makes the distinction between the real world where real things happen and the fake headspace world. What happened doesn't make sense.
>>732137046He let himself lose because it was more kino.
>>732120687They weren't really forgiven, it's just that it was easier to believe they were.
>>732123340>>732140867>>732131590>>732135102This part doesn't at all show Sunny's dad" saying it explicitly", there are a million other ways you can interpret that line, especially when you consider the fact that this is just Sunny's representation of his dad.
>Why isn't this fictional media exactly like the real world?!?!?Weird how no one has hangups about this for other games...
>>732149527Because Omori makes a distinction between the real world and the fake head space world. So when something like the Mari death which seems so unlikely as to be impossible, is a massive glaring problem.
>>732146925Sunny had sex with both
>>732120687>>732120687>fool all of the adultsWe don't know that. You never once talk to adults about what happened. All we know is that Sunny wasn't sent to juvie and his dad left.>forgivenyou assumed thatyou invented all of this in your head
>>732136032But enough about FSN
>>732143213>Still no details provided
>>732120687We don't know if they were forgiven. It makes a point to end before you find out. He just lifted the burden from his friend, and that's why the two feel better. As for the police, in the dream sequence before you go into the back yard, it seems like both parents know the truth the way they are talking. So maybe they're helping cover for their son so they don't lose both children.
>>732149868The real world also has Aubrey walking around with a bat with nails in it and no one cares.
>>732153447Many people don't know this, but assuming the parents flat out told the police everything, it would still be highly unlikely that Sunny or Basil would face any consequences for what happened. It's also completely realistic for the investigation to quietly wrap up without most of the town knowing. Especially if this is a small town like the one Omori takes place in.
>>732133958Kris got a little pissed when Dess was bullying him and accidentally dusted her. Now he's practically dead inside from the guilt and has a hand-washing complex
>>732153735They don't have a local police station. So maybe the state troopers or whatever didn't tell the community. It could also be a favor to the parents who don't want their son living with that kind of whispers being said around him.
>>732120687Its much more likely the cover up failed but no charges were pressed because what would be the point?
I don't think Hero is gonna forgive Sunny.
>>732154164It's going to be hardest for him. But if the game kept going, I think it would be more interesting if Kel was the one with the biggest grudge, seeing as he had your back all game long.
Who cares the kids are cute.
>>732154113Yeah. The parents obviously knew what happened based on what happens in Black Space. It's very likely that what happened was:>Cover up happens >Police investigation>Mom worries about Sunny being taken away to juvie >No prosecutor would bother taking the case>Cops end the investigation and decide to let them grieve instead of pressing charges Despite a lot of claims saying that this is unrealistic, this is actually most likely what would go down in a real life scenario like this.
https://youtu.be/5N3akTSmF3k?si=LK8K-ilQugUZHvm8Lmao, OP is copy and pasting the comments of the OP of this video. This took two seconds of googling.
I love Basil I wish he was real.
>>732155587Holy shit wtf yeah he is.
>>732155796if he was real he'd be too retarded to survive
>>732120687Isn't it hinted that Sunny's dad helped cover it up, albeit pretty reluctantly?
>>732156061I would protect and take care of him.I would shovel aubrey's baseball bat so far up her ass it would turn her into a popsicle.
this game must go hard if you're an edgy depressed faggot
>>732155796I'd love to rape him
>>732120843>making stories that aren't contingent upon retardation is impossible
>>732154067>They don't have a local police station[citation needed]
>>732157136Anon, you literally walk around their entire town. By all means, point out the police station.
>>732157431>Anon, you literally walk around their entire town[citation needed]
>>732156660Basil is for gentle cuddles only.
You can't die from falling down the stairs. Mari was just unconscious when the boys staged her hanging, which was what killed her.
>>732147328Sunny's parents paid off the cops.
>>732121184>You have ignore parts of my story that don't make sense!!! It's apart of the unspoken contract of engaging with my shitty writing
>>732159060Have you SEEN that staircase? People have died from less.
>>732159161Most likely they didn't bother to prosecute. It's actually very realistic for Sunny to get off with zero charges.
>>732159242I agree, having long, consistent dreams doesn't make sense. Might as well just cut that whole part out. Also, put Sunny in jail, so just cut all his parts out too.
>>732159060Are you completely retarded? People have died from just falling over, falling down stairs could easily kill you..
>>732159360>If my story wasn't bad there would be no story
>>732159561Sponges don't have faces, so delete that nonsensical image.
>>732155796every time i see any non explicitly masculine image of basil i cant help but subconsciously think hes a reverse trap and wanna grab his cute little ass and pussy through the overalls
>>732159326Does it work like that in America? Where I live in case of murder even if the parents would not want to prosecute themselves the public prosecutor would still prosecute Sunny.
The game's so fucking boring, but Black Space and the Truth are pretty nice sequences
Didn’t read the thread. Just stopping by to say that I want to gently make love to Basil
>>732159779At least in America it most likely would happen.
>>732158935Gentle cuddles in the morningHard raw sex at night
>>732120687If I was Omori/Basil what I would have done was>say I pushed her>she didn't fall down the stairs but stumbled a little>after that happened I cried and said sorry and was afraid she fell down the stairs>she was mad I pushed her so she decided to tease me and pretend to fall down by leaning off the edge of the stairs, backwards>she goes too far and actually fell>diesI'm sure the other will go along with it, and I'll tell the truth on my deathbed. Explains the handprint on her chest if they check and believable enough for retarded children to do, especially with two witnesses. I can also farm guilt by saying "WAHHHH I PUSHED HER DOWN THE STAIRS IT'S MY FAULT" and I won't technically be wrong. Either way I wouldn't be wrong in saying that it was a retarded accident.
Why is this thread surprised two twelve year olds could cover up/stage a murder? I'm heard younger kids do worse.
>>732160284honestly he shouldnt have said anything, people slip from the stairs all the fucking time
Would you forgive Sunny and Basil?
>>732120687You haven't been alive very long. You haven't had the time to see how often cases are just written off because it was easier. This shit happened all the fucking time while I was growing up and then 20 years late someone would make a documentary about it.
>>732120687>Operating under the assumption that real life cops don't completely gloss over straightforward cases because they're either incompetent or corrupt Whatever narrow minded autism you have is ruining it for you, not the plot itself.
>>732120687ive thought about it for yearsthem thinking it would work and being OLDER would be dumber12 years old + parents covering it up makes it believable
>>732153703because she's hot and it's seen as quirky/charming
Consider this twink.
>>732162869>SunnyYes. He fucked up and got taken advantage of and placed in a situation that was nigh impossible to do anything about because of his retarded psychotic faggot friend. Also Mari literally forgave him in spirit. Who am I to overrule her?>BasilNope. Sorry. He made everything worse for no reason. It's also his fault the annoying "how did they get away with it this story sucks blablabla" argument that founded this shitty thread exists.
>>73216344712 yo btw
>>732164902Out of ten!
>>732162869sunny? probablybasil? lol. got the normal leave town ending on my first playthrough for a reason
>>732120687Did the creator of this ever apologize for forsaking lolisho? It is obvious she was still horny when her and her faggots made her game.
>>732127024theres good rpgmaker games though this just isnt one of them
>>732165553Nope because she has toby fox on her side
>>732165943Does Toby Fox hate loli and shota too?
>>732165553>forsaking lolishoHardly, I'd even say she doubled down, if not very loudly about it.For the manga adaptation she hired a doujin author who specializes in toxic yaoi femboy shotacon.
I'm not gonna find all those braindead replies saying >she's not breathing so she's deadso I'll just reply to >>732143590Her not breathing doesn't mean she's dead. I'm not entirely sure about the details but hurting your back in a certain way can make your lungs "not work" for a few minutes. In fact, I shit you not, this exact scenario happened to me when I was little: I fell down the stairs AND COULD BARELY BREATHE for a few minutes. Only I didn't pass out. But I had great difficulty breathing and my mom even called an ambulance.Same thing happened around that time, when I was on a seesaw with one of my friends. He "jumped" up hard, lifting his side quickly and slamming my side into the ground with great force (my legs weren't down to dampen the hit). It wasn't a direct hit to my back but that impact still caused my to gasp for air for a minute or so.It is entirely possible that she hit her head and back, passed out and couldn't breathe, especially not being able to force her muscles due to being unconscious.
>>732121321>woman
>>732164090why is she like this?
>>732135826>12 year-olds, especially one of Basil's caliber don't typically know how to tie a nooseHe was a deeply-depressed, if not already-outright suicidal kid, in a world that has Internet access. It's not so outlandish that this might have been knowledge he sought out and retained along the way.
>>732167132>He was a deeply-depressed, if not already-outright suicidal kid,Where is this ever shown?
>>732167251You can extrapolate backwards from the fact that the game can literally end with him having committed suicide. A normal kid can't 'reach' that extreme unless they're already deeply mentally affected beforehand. A well-adjusted child won't kill himself or even consider doing so, over guilt, even guilt over something horrible.
>>732122040I feel like its pretty clear that the family is aware of what actually happened along with the police within the setting. The issue is that pushing any type of charges against children that young for homicide and tampering with evidence is pointless and would never stick regardless. My hand canon is that its just a simple small town cover up and nobody really knew how to deal with it and just tried to move on. I think like others have mentioned Sunny's father in black space hints at this being the case and his mother being so distant. Also its a game, like shit aint that deep
>>732167490>simple small town cover up and nobody really knew how to deal with it and just tried to move on.This seems less like headcanon and more like the most likely scenario, Occam's razor and all that.What are you really going to realistically do to a kid who accidentally kills his sibling?
>>732167251Starting with the fact that his first thought after seeing Mari dead was "FUCK I GOTTA TIE A NOOSE".Why does a mentally and emotionally stable boy know how to tie a noose?
>>732167771That's the whole problem, nothing suggests he knows how to do that beforehand. There's also nothing suggesting his mental state was anything other than blissful happiness before Mari's death.
>>732166583Isn't it more meaningful if she lived until the noose anyway? It makes it into an actual murder and something to feel bad about. Didn't the game have a big emphasis on her eye too? Could even be something surrounding the fact that she may have still been alive during the process so it felt much more like being looked at. The whole thing ultimately thriving in the vagueness, something that'd surely drive those involved insane.
>>732159060You vastly underestimate how little force is required to break a neck enough to cause internal decapitation. Even just a fall from standing height is enough to remove you from this mortal coil if you land on it at a bad angle.
>>732167771The hanging was Basil's idea, Sunny was too stunned to think
>>732168780Imagine Sunny and Mari both fell down the stairs and died. Basil would probably hang 'em both for no reason.
>>732168913Basil probably would have hung them and himself, since he was clearly thinking about it enough to learn the knot to use on Mari
>>732159060People have died from simple slips in the shower or a bad fall on concreteA bit of bad luck and bye bye
This was the last piece of media that made me cry, presumably before my heart completely scabbed over. I think it was around picrel I just burst into tearsIt's kind of the last game I vividly remember playing
>>732126951
>>732169892How old is this post? Has she revived?
>>732169892shame that omofat scrubbed all her past posts gushing about incest and oneeshota
>>732170036It's an edit, she never posted that.However, despite being fake, it's completely true.
>>732169165I just want these kids to be happy.
basil...
>>732171126>Designs that if simply labeled girl would be lauded by anons everywhere
>>732169892What's funny is that this screenshot is actually fake. Omocat never made that tweet. Though it's funnier that pretty much everyone believes it because it fits her perfectly.
>>732171126Why is this boy so naturally erotic?How many designs did Omocat draw with sticky fingers before she captured this one?
>>732170238She should have embraced it. Make such a well-received a game and you're automatically better than the peons nipping at your heels anyways.And I mean... the internet never forgets, anyways.
Why did they hang Mari when they could have just as easily said that she just fell down the stairs?
>>732171589Because Basil is retarded and his only solution to anything is roping
>>732171589Because Sunny thought he needed an alibi or people might suspect him I guess... but most importantly he wasn't thinking straight and in a complete panic.This lends itself to the theory their parents know the truth regardless of how they found her, because of the fake death not matching the clear cause of death.
>>732171589Basil is clever, but he's stupid under pressure.
>>732170238>>732171581Why did the whole cancel era even happen? Why did so many feel like they had to cave to some basement dwellers instead of being themselves? Was it from being new to the internet or social media?
>>732171126>>732171438>>732171810I’ve never played this game but I always thought this character was cute. Does he have a shitty personality though?
>>732171887People caring too much what random people think about them whom they'll never meet. Hopefully going forward humanity is experienced enough to know how fake and gay these social media ideologues are who try to hoist themselves into positions of moral authority. But these are the kinds of mistakes people are bound to keep making.
>>732171589OMOCAT probably came up with the concept for SOMETHING early and felt too attached to it to go for something more reasonable. Or something along those lines.
>>732172005Depends how you interpret his actions. The point of the character isn't supposed to be "he's shitty" though I can safely say that. Also you should probably exit the thread ASAP if you don't want to be spoiled (this game is so much better if you don't spoil it).
>>732172005He throws two puppies in a river and may or may not be behind a girl's disappearance.
>>732120687I always figured adults knew the truth but didn't do anything because it was an accident.
shotas...
>>732172005Nah, decent personality.Kind and friendly in Headspace and the Past, extremely skittish and anxious in the Present.There was a prototype version that got canned that was just a whiny bitch, in the creator's own words.Go play the game, it's solid and not super long, maybe 40 hours through one route if you're trying to 100% it and take it slow.
>>732171589Basil is a fucking idiot. Those plants probably ate his smooth brain.
>>732172031SOMETHING could have been just as simple as him seeing her die with her eyes open.
im kind of interested in this game but ive heard that theres some small choice you make in the beginning of the game that just locks you out of the good ending or something
>>732172192I thought it more or less outright stated the dad knew if nothing else. I think it was related to the blackspace stuff to find the hints so it might be a lot of people aren't even aware there is a tiny chunk of Yume Nikki-like hidden as a post-game type deal much less had actually seen any dialog from it. Image related, this isn't fan art, this is literally in the game if you look deep enough, if you haven't seen it then you aren't done with the game.
>>732172834The game has two routes. The key split between the two routes is a choice given to you after the prologue which basically boils down to staying inside or leaving the house. It should be obvious enough which choice is the good one. Go play it.
>>732172834If you go outside, bad things start happening. The things out there aren't what they seem.
>>732172834More like the worst ending. The 4 or so good route ending (though the ending themselves can end badly) assume you play the game as intended. The literal worst ending is to basically ignore the waking world and just dream as much as possible. If you never went outside then you are on that route. If you been outside in the real world segment at least once then you are locked out of that route. The route is honestly pretty boring though it add harder optional bosses as a whole extra day you get to spend in the dream world that you otherwise wouldn't had. The game have a lot of choices and extra dialog but nothing that will permanently hurt. The ending is mostly decided on your final day with extra flavor fluff if you did side content.
>Game is all about accepting the past and moving on even if you did bad things>Fans of this work soon try to cancel Omocat for things she did in the past?????????
>>732173894It's not specifically about moving on, it's about accountability for hidden misdeeds. The "good ending" is Sunny coming clean so he can be accurately judged for what he and Basil did. Omocat has not come out, just come.
>>732172834This is all you need to be aware of going in.When you open the Door or decide not to, you're locked into either route.If you want the True End, Open the Door, Water the flowers every day, and help everyone in town.
>>732174116Omocat didn't really do anything wrong though.
>>732120687pale white shota tummy
>>732167394>>732167771Basil was fucked up long before he met Sunny. The game doesn't quite touch on it enough before it tries to sell the twist, but Basil is independently mentally ill. The brain that goes to file away "how to make flower crowns" and comes back with "oh, that's how you make a noose" had problems before it did so.And while having real friends helped him, he also unhealthily latched on to Sunny. Anything that threatened his ability to be friends with Sunny, either morally or literally, he lost the ability to process. Thus, the immediate shock-and-numbness response to seeing Sunny do something "evil", and his eventual arrival on a stupid, desperate way to "make it go away".So the entire emotional twist of the game only works because the two characters present were capable of acting in spite of being so deep in emotional shock that they both lost the ability to consciously acknowledge the incident afterward.It's not entirely implausible, but it's the type of contrivance you usually reserve for one character at a time when you're trying to make a story out of it, you know?
omori's thigh highs are highly suggestive
>>732156496It’s spongebob rollercoaster slop, I feel like edgy depressed fags would want something with a bit more punch.
>>732176084I head-canoned that he learned how to tie a noose thanks to the reading a book at the library.Instructions for noose-tying would not be on the internet since it takes place circa 1990.
>>732178026You underestimate how emotionally unstable modern teenaged shut-ins are.
>>732178037You're writing the game for itself. That's the problem.
>>732179490Not really. That's like the 1 part you have to make a leap in logic to fit.Everything else has enough sequencing to make sense.
>>732179730No its not. There's no reason for Basil to do what he does.
>>732180207Yes there is. He's literrally written to be lonely and very attatched to Sunny. When he first finds the body, he thinks that Sunny might go to jail and be forced to leave him, and he hates that so much that he's in full coverup mode.
>>732136630 >>732137518>>732180463The photo album is Basil's personal thoughts, it's us as the audience look into how he was back then. He never once in the album or outside of it expresses any type of depression at the age of 12. There is no evidence before the traumatic event that he was suicidal making it completely a headcanon.
>>732180463I think some people are missing the point here. Basil was familiar enough with the concept of a hanging suicide that that idea was something that was even possible for his mind to pull out in the moment. It really doesn’t matter how Basil knew how to tie the knot, what matters is that Basil associated the knot with a suicide. If he just knew slip knots from bracelets and flower crowns, it would not have been possible for his mind to say, “right time to use that knot to hang Mari from a tree.” That’s the kind of idea that requires thought and consideration that Basil did not have time nor place of mind to do at the time of the incident. I don’t think he was actively suicidal when the friend group was all together, but everything we know about him definitely doesn’t paint a good picture of what his life was like before meeting Aubrey and the rest. Obviously, Basil is a very strong character, as he never actually went through with it pre-canon, but I think people are coping when they try and say that him knowing how to tie knots explains his actions because it actually doesn’t.
basil is cute so it's ok
>>732133415>>732133958>>732134074Toby said that 'someone' had already made a game that was very similar in narrative to what he had originally planned for deltarune. Very high chance it was Omori. >Silent protag>A real world suburb and a fantastical 'other' world>Older brother character returning home from college>potentially dead older sister character that may or may not have been covered upect ect
>>732177568Seems to run in the family.Those long socks don't help it either.
>>732162869Sunny loved BasilHis grief and regret relating to Mari simply ended up overshadowing those feelings, along with everything else in his life. Yeah Basil's idea to stage it made the situation 1000% worse, but Sunny was ultimately the one who did the initial deed.
Why is Toby Fox so conservative and whimsical but restrained. But Omocat is so horny all the time.
>>732181754The healing power of shotas can be addicting
>>732120784Sister incest is hot
>>732120687>>732126951>>732181818So omori is a gay pedo game for women?
I played this game thinking it would be something that actually fucks me up mentally, I was sorely disappointed. DDLC was darker than this and that’s babby’s first VN.
>>732182850There is a loli in it and since she plays baseball she'd have a canonically big ass. She even flaunts it by only wearing a shirt and nothing else in her younger dream form.
>>732133958>>732134074Kris probably either killed dess or lost her in the bunker Dark World. Either way he feels very guilty about it anytime she's mentioned.
>>732182882You went into it with the wrong expectations.It's not a mindscrew, it tugs on your heartstrings.
>>732183370Well it didn’t do that either, Mari is hot and all but that whole duet thing at the end evinced nothing in me. I sort of liked the an hero and shut in parts though
>>732183129Aubrey is the most fuckable woman of all time.
>>732184383I'm personally a sucker for dramatic piano and violin for whatever reason so it made me tear up. I'm not sure why music like that particularly has such an effect on me.
Reminder that Sunny killed this
>>732184703Catbox her doing.......stuff.
>>732185205https://files.catbox.moe/djr30n.jpg
>>732185405MORE
>>732159769Someone's son typed this.
>>732155062I see three couples.
>>732185695Once Mari marries Hero, Sunny and Kel will be brothers.If Sunny marries Aubrey, Mari will finally actually be her older sister.This is an almost optimal arrangement, but unless you're a CactiFlower shipper, it leaves Basil out of the loop.If Kel ends up with Aubrey that leaves Sunny for Basil and that's at least has everyone in the family.Really the only clean way to line everything up is if Sunny had a twin sister with low twintails. Then she could be with Basil and Kel can find someone.
>>732120687Okay but the yoai smutt, fantastic
>>732185556Hot
