Deep Rock Galactic is funLet's talk about it, both scrubs and veterans are welcome in this thread
who is karl
rock fags and stone gays
Play the better bug shooting coop game.
rip mom
>>732145393The greatest dwarf that ever lived. The rumors have it that he stayed behind to destroy the broodmother of the bugs.
>>732145393he's my cousin
>>732145263Pasting my zipline idea from the other thread>Instead of horizontal it only shoots up and down and you can increase the angle with the other upgrade.
>>732145537Helldivers fucking sucks
>>732145537>helldivers 2surface level coop
>>732145786Better idea>zipline inherits movespeed exactly like pipe rails and can be placed to act like grind rails throughout the terrain
>>732145537fun for 2 hours before you realize all missions are boring dogshit and you have to grind hundreds of hours for new guns
Can someone explain to me how to use Sludge Pump effectively? It seems like an enormous pile of shit.
>>732145537I like the progression in deep rock a lot more than hd2. I think its really gay everything is locked behind battle passes.
>>732145263The only thing in this game that genuinely makes me seethe with rage is when im playing an on-site refining mission and my retard teammates build pipes overlaping or clipping into objects so you cant grind on the properly. Especially when your playing driller and you've made all these perfect tunnels for the pipes and them some spastic decides to ignore them and then builds literally the worst pipeline to exist. It makes me fucking PISSED.
>>732145990Blow everyone up with c4 and leave.
Is gunner still allowed to smoke
>>732145786But only as an upgrade
>>732145873But enough about DRG
Post dwarves.
>>732146253drg weapons are piss easy to unlock doe?
>>732145990Whenever I have to do an On-Site Refining mission, I always try to be Driller for it, unless my friend needs to play Driller for a season mission, and even then they at least understand that Driller is pipebitch.
>>732146560
>>732145990>pipes overlaping or clipping into objects so you cant grind on the properlyunderstandable>when your playing driller and you've made all these perfect tunnels for the pipeseat shit nigger i WILL steal your pipe construction and you WILL ride my miles long retarded (but hitchless) rollercoaster
>>732146729Brother
>>732146652Nu-uh. Engi platforms everywhere to use thwm as stepoing stones.
Posting every bosco art I have
>>732145786just fucking remove the restriction completely, its utterly useless, and give the accel on the incline too, 90% of players wait for the driller to drill a path rather than going on a zip
>>732147228Is that a fucking loop de loop?
>Exploring the top of the map >Complete darkness because flares are recharging, but it's pretty safe up here for now and I should be fine>Step into a 400 mile long perfectly vertical driller hole that drops me back down to the bottom of the mapWhy are they like this
>>732145537>weapon locked battlepassesGET FUCKED
>>732145537Buy an ad
>>732147418Acceptable, but mainly if there's no good way to just drill to the well, or if it would be better to span over areas.Or, Karl forbid, you somehow don't have a Driller.
>>732147508Skill issue. You're gonna want to watch out for those.I had this exact thing happen to an engineer yesterday and I made sure to get to his body as fast as possible to laugh at him and ping the hole in question 37 times.
>>732147613Or you could angle your dwarf hole so it can be used on the way up as well AND it doesn't kill people.
>>732147228>i WILL steal your pipe construction and you WILL ride my miles long retarded (but hitchless) rollercoasterUmfathomably based. Fuck cucktunnels.
That's all folks
Is it just me or is the cave gen for the new biome absolute dogshit? I spent almost 2 hours on one mission before giving up because the 4th resonite crystal just didn't exist. Went top to bottom in that cave 3 fucking times.
>>732147819Make me faggot>>732148351Haven't seen it in the new biome but I have seen solo missions like Mining Expedition generate incompletable terrain before.
>>732145974I have 2 builds for it. One is the shotgun OC, pure raw damage charged shots. It's great because it melts all armor, be it praets, dreads, stingtails, rollers, etc. It also just penetrates armor and applies acceptably high damage even through unbreakable armor if you can't get to a bug's back like on oppressor.The other is the exploding if set on fire OC combo'd up with burning EPC. It also pairs up well if anyone on your team is running fire. Just charge both of your shots and let the plasma ball fly by every enemy and acid pile you can fit in one shot, it can apply the damage on a single enemy several times, sometimes instakilling praets.I also sometimes like to meme with it and the microwave gun with all the slowdown effects, it completely freezes heavy bugs in place. Bulks literally cannot move if they're in acid and you're tapping your microwave's trigger. It's not that good for direct damage though.
>>732145393Cousin Okri after he went through a portal and ended up on Hoxxes.
>>732146560My favorite loadout for each class.
What's the lore of this game? Why do we want Morkite so badly? Who are the dwarves and why is it only dwarves that go mining? Is all of DRG made up of dwarves? We know elves exist. What do they look like? Are they against us? Is DRG beholden to a country? Does the game take place on future fantasy Earth but we're always just in space mining Hoxxes?
>>732145974It's an entire weapon built around the Sticky Flames/Crystal Nucleation gimmick, I.E. patches of slowdown and DOT on command. Though unlike the overclocks, it also has a charge shot that does physical damage in a radius, slowdown/DOT fragments that spread out from your charge shot, and direct damage from single shots. Essentially it's slowdown on-command that doesn't rely on filling a thermal meter. Plus, one booger of sludge will usually kill a grunt/slasher within 3/4 seconds.You have to decide if you want to build for direct damage, DOT, or crowd control. There are great OCs for each of these options and some strange ones that give you unique interactions with other weapons/elements.TL;DR: It does a lot of things so-so. Decide which aspect you want it to do REALLY well in that your CRSPR/Cryo builds cannot. The right sludge pump build can even do more direct damage than other Drilla primaries, if you're into that.
BUULUU KÄÄHP
there is goo in the sack
>>732148991The TL;DR is that Hoxxes is such a suicidally dangerous shithole that nobody sane would ever go there, let alone try to mine it.Only DRG is willing to piss away lives and cheap equipment to make the return worth it, and only dwarfs are tough enough to survive and/or stupid enough to work for DRG
Season 3 ruined the game
>>732148991>Why do we want Morkite so badly?Super oil, now with the geodes discovery Morkite is just Tiberium all but in name so DRG greey ass wants to plant it somewhere else.
>>732145537HD1 > HD2. That's an actual co-op game. But I bet you never even fucking played that to know what I mean.
glad we are getting some threads. just wish /v/ros joined the lobbiessteam://joinlobby/548430/109775242711340513/76561197962839239
>>732149705eu/us?
>>732149207Oi, there's a boolo cap ova ere!
>>732149705
>>732149812us
what the heck is this
>>732149979BALLSBALLSBALLS
>Spawn into a map in the middle of a swarm>Find a guy miles away already downed>Spend the first few minutes digging to him>Burn the swarm off of him and res him>He's AFK
>>732149591By that logic, DRG isn't a coop game either because players can just split up and do objectives around the caves and then meet back up at the drop pod
They removed the tentacle physics from this fucking thing and I don't want to play anymore. That shit would fly around the room like spaghetti in a black hole on a whim and brought joy to so many dwarves. Organically discovering that the three point landing victory move caused it to completely spaz out on the completion screen was like reaching nirvana. Why was this even on their radar? Who the fuck reported this? The final season wasn't worth it, god damn.
>>732150047get off vent or I'll have you bent
>>732147590the fucking irony. it's been the same thread infested with bots and GSG discord crew for 5+ years
>>732145263You can't have a game about fighting insects and then add a fuck ton of robots and bosses that are an entire room. The balance has been completely fucked since they added robots all those years ago. I haven't played in a very long time, thought I was around 400 hours mostly Hazard 5, and I used to always do the weekly dives at least.
>>732150909Not him, but at least DRG incentivizes co-op during swarms or to save people from leeches and several objectives require you to sit on your ass in a relatively small area so everyone gets grouped up together (except for Scout). Not to mention you have to physically revive people so when the scunt gets leeched he's gonna wait a while before anyone gets to himMeanwhile the only thing in Helldivers 2 requiring co-op are the fucking bunkers and even that is no longer true if you buy the teleporter backpack warbond (or the mech). Every objective is better done solo because that's the fastest way to do the entire map due to it's size AND the best way to do the blitz missions due to the time limit. If someone on your team fucks up and gets reinforements dropped on him, not only are they only dropped on him and no one else, if he dies because of them you can just revive him from 2km away and the only problem is going back there to finish the objective and/or grab samplesHD1 had way better co-op dynamic where bigger player counts meant more safety from wipes (HD2 just respawns the entire team by itself, gay as fuck) and more overall firepower, but also made it far harder to coordinate aiming in the same direction or kill a patrol without clipping your teammate, so it naturally ended up more chaotic with more close quarters combat and more combat overall due to way more failed stealth takedowns on patrols. I'd say it had one of the best co-op systems ever made, but I'm pretty sure it was mostly thanks to the top-down camera and I haven't played many other topdown co-op games (not that there are many, never liked Magicka though)
play with friend since its free for a while, they mute there audio since there too over stimulated. scout friend legit dies right next to them and they have no clue what is happening and whats to explore the cave :). I know there new dwarfs and all .. but this is difficulty 1 I am legit scared to turn it up any further because of this
>>732149979It's mules, Mission Control.
>>732145537seriously where's the fun in helldivers 2? I've played like 10 hours waiting for the fun to begin and it's the same shit as the first 30 minutes of gameplayI'm starting to think all successful games in the last 10 years are just propped up by corrupted game journalists and game awards conventions
>>732151254>noo my Sony-studio game is totally organic and grass roots!
>>732145537>he doesn't play DRG>he doesn't play HD2>he doesn't play EDF>he doesn't play Starship Troopers: Exterminationngmi
>>732146560i like to think my dwarf is just an older engie
>people still dont know how to use ziplines
>>732153472they're for spamming during extraction so you can get out of the pod without consequence
>>732145786Ziplines are fine, people are just uncreative in their application.Rogue Core made the problem worse by refusing to generate fucked up chasms so the only use of ziplines is to be a permanent grapple line now.
>>732145990You arent a civil engineer in the north, you dont need to bury every pipe below the frost line. Most pipelines are perfectly fine running along the ground in the mostly-unobstructed path that the cave generated for dwarven foot traffic.By using tunnels exclusively you are making it harder for every other class to repair the pipes since you will not be able to go directly to a damaged pipe segment and you cannot use the further line of sight to kill bugs around it. Not every class has driller's primaries.Save the tunnels for the truly horrendous paths or for big timesaves. If someone could easily lay pipe by walking to the jack, a tunnel is unneeded.
>>732154048>By using tunnels exclusively you are making it harder for every other class to repair the pipes since you will not be able to go directly to a damaged pipe segment and you cannot use the further line of sight to kill bugs around it.You're a retard.Pipes serve as their own path to every construction point on that path. That's why pipe grinding is a thing.Any bugs around a pipe construction point are going to be attacking that construction point, making them literally 0 threat to players. They do not need to be cleared from across the cave.
>>732151759Your friend is retarded. The game is meant to be played with audio and many bugs only have audio cues.You're in the dark, you need to be able to react to things that you cant see.
>>732145873The same shit applies to DRG.
>>732154220>instead of being able to go from wherever I am in the cave to the exact location of the damaged pipe, anon thinks its more efficient to run to the jack/refinery, ride the pipe all the way to the damaged section, then ride all the way back to the refinery, to then ride a different pipe all the way to the damaged section.Why dont you just play a fucking rail shooter if you dont want to actually navigate the cave with your own feet?Hanging out at the refinery for the pipes to break is a horrendous idea, largely because the refinery itself blocks a lot of visibility. I can survey the cave and figure out a better holdout position, which is what enables the other classes to make good use of their mobility tools (even driller can do some landscaping) instead of using the cuckold tunnels.You should play the other classes so you can understand what everyone can contribute instead of autistically insist that youre a big special boy and only you can play with the refinery toys.
Need a dispenser here!
>>732145537>the betterRetard
>>732153608>get out of the pod without consequenceShould we tell him?
We playin drip or drown?
>>732155383https://youtu.be/xH0wMhlm-b8?si=FXj2YnbtMfBXrvWr&t=170
>>732151510You hardly ever see robots anymore, retard
>>732155519you don't lose xp this way tho
>>732155809>he STILL doesn't get it Ow man, this will be funny
Post 'those' scouts.This one averaged a death every two minutes, on a map with about 100 enemies total.
>>732156057>shaming new players for being new>playing haz 4 when you have 1k hours in the gameoh retard-kun.
>>732155863they fixed it long ago
too much visual noise don't know if it's the new updates or terrain gen but i can't see shit no more
Give me a cryo build that doesn't feel like shit to use
>>732156482Heres the one I use1) Ice lance is very fun to use and can one shot almost anything. Even Pretorians if you time it with freeze2) Crycannon still freezes pretty fast and has aoe vs swarmers3) EPC with hard hitter or aoe discharge for fun Great for everything, good single damage and amazing clear speed.
>>732156482>freeze bugs>drill bugs>impact axe + power attack big bugs>vampireHow does the cryo cannon ever feel like shit? It's the closest the game lets you get to a melee berserker class.
>>732154801>to run to the jack/refineryBut you don't need to do that now do you
>>732145263I wanna be sold on this game so fucking bad. I've got autistic friends who are like HOLY SHIT THIS IS WAY BETTER THAN ANYTHING WE HAVE EVER PLAYED IN THE HISTORY OF EVER. I played it a little and I'm fucking bored to death. How do you make it fun without googling "how to play the game in a fun way"?
I have 35 hours in DRG, last played 2.5 years agoI felt like I´ve seen everything worthwile, while gameplay was okay, but just worse then l4d2
>>732151829>Yohoo, Gunner.... DIE!
>>732157727If the pipes are buried in a tunnel you have to unless you feel like digging by pickaxe.
>>732145537>game where every single enemy gets massively nerfed any time a redditor complains
>>732156346>he STILL doesn't get itlol
>>732156402Get new peepers, granpa
>>732145990Pipes are first come, first served. Simple as. If you're too slow to lay them, you have no-one to blame but yourself.
>>732157797>l4d2I simply can't play COOPs on static maps anymore.
>>732156482What I want to know is if you have no over clocks for it is it better to make it freeze faster or do more damage?
>>732158661why would you ever want to do more damageall you need is fragile
If you don't dress your Engi as Robotnik you don't know SHIT about videogames
>>732158915I dress mine as Captain Vidya.Eggman engis are a dime a dozen
>>732158915Tbh I have an eggman preset for every class.
>>732156210Not that anon and call me a chopped unc but Hazard 5 is just too hard for me to play as my regular diff, and I have over a thousand hours. Like I can play it, but I and my team have to be on our top game in order to clear. 4 is the perfect balance of enough challenge to be fun and not too hard to be frustrating. 3 is good for when I want comfy mining without much challenge, like if I'm tired after work, or I want to get an assignment done and not have to replay any missions. Some modifiers like the mactera are annoying on 4+ so I'd play it on 3 instead. I don't know how people deal with modded 6+ hazards and I can't really vibe with people who only play 5 on vanilla. I was never all that great at the reflexes and aim needed for shooters and I've only gotten worse with age.Maybe that anon is the same and Haz 4 is a good difficulty for him.
Haz 5 is perfectly manageable for me. Haz 5+ 2/2/2/2 is pure bullshit. 'More Enemies' 2 can stay though.
>>732157970By the time I played, the one getting nerfed to a pulp was the player as if it was retaliation from the dev's bull demeaning himEvery single update as a fucking slap and anytime anything consistent was found, devs said "FUCK YOU, NO" and replaced it with the squeaky toy version of itself
>>732160054If you can't hang in Haz 5 you are genuinely braindead.
>>732158661Freeze faster. What Cryo is actually good at is stopping a swarm dead instantly with the cold radius, which procs every 1 second and deals your base COLD damage to everything around you. This is what actually gives it utility. Making it do more damage is meaningless cause the cold radiance does not inherit the base health damage and frozen enemies are basically one-shot by anything anyways.
>>732160054Use your brain for half a second. There's nothing inherently wrong with enjoying haz 4. There's something wrong with being an ELITIST haz 4 scrub.
>>732160054Haz 4 is my default at 900 hours and I'll really only dip into haz 5 if I have an assignment.5 is still realistically losable with randoms and sometimes you can't do anything about it. People think they're hotter shit than they are and ruin the mission for everyone, and it's not fun trying to drag dipshits over the finish line. Haz 4 is an easy 99% success rate while haz 5 is probably around 85%. People cannot be trusted.
What does this error cube in my inventory do
>>732160573They tried forcing some retarded grunt fantasy at launch despite everything from gameplay, trailers to game mechanics saying we're elite operators. They got a lot of shit for it and have somewhat eased up on this. At the moment the game is honestly too easy, every lobby even with randoms everyone just does an entire objective or outpost by themselves. And I say this as someone who quit the game close to launch because I was tired of dealing with auto-aim bots that sniped my head 0.5s after I peeked out of cover if I didn't have the shield backpackDespite this the devs are still swedes and therefore still legally mandated to be retarded, so there's a controversy every 2 or so months anyway. That's ignoring the controversy with every single update when AH once again releases new content without testing it for even a single minute so it's full of bugs (unless gamebreaking never fixed)
>>732161357They had their chanceToo fucking bad I couldnt refund, even after complaining straight to steam how they were actively shitting on the game
Haven't played since late Season 2Have they fucked up the game? How bad?
>>732160054as a haz5+ exclusively player, holy shit dude i'm not reading all that to know you just suck and are coping
>>732161186___________________________________________________nothing___________________________________________________
>>732162360It's terrible nowI play everyday
>>732160054Haz 5 with no mutations? You shuold be carrying your team and only need 1 person to also clear hordes with you.
>>732160475I like Haz 5 with More Enemies 2 on most mission types but escort duty can get ridiculous
>>732160475+2 aggression is also based, regular haz 5 bugs are way too slow
>>732149849We're rich!
>>732163443Sorry, but I enjoy having fun. I draw the line at lightspeed Slashers and swarmers.
>>732163689no no, player damage and bug toughness is not having fun, +2 aggro and +2 bugs is the bare minimum for me to even want to play, anything less is 99% chance of victory and boring
>>732163783Fair enough. As they say, "To win without risk is to triumph without glory"
>>732161009It's not elitist to ask that scout doesn't get himself killed 10 fucking times
>>732160054>Not that anon and call me a chopped unc but Hazard 5 is just too hard for me to play as my regular diff, and I have over a thousand hoursliterally how. I am a boomer with terrible reflexes and haz 5 is a complete joke. are you just standing still completely oblivious to what's going on around you? are you playing on a controller?
>>732166140Idk man, it's just too unforgiving when only a couple bugs can down you in a few bites, or a tri jaw you didn't even see instakills you, and the bugs never fucking stop coming so there isn't a moment of peace. It's not even fun to me. Level 4 is much more enjoyable because theres still comfy mining time and moments where it heats up. Like I said, never had the reflexes or motor control for FPS, it was a miracle for me to headshot in CS.
why have they never added any new effects beers for actual missions? it can't be that hard to think up a few more than 6, especially when one of them literally only works on one mission type
>>732145263Rogue Core's upgrades fucking blow. Nothing exciting or game-changing, just "+6 dmg", "+3 armor break", "+3% magazine size". The wildest they get with it is the shit that shoots ineffective homing balls at targets when your shield is full, or the stuff that buffs you and your teammates a little when in close proximity. Hugely disappointed in the playtest.
>>732145786I've wanted something like this for a while. It feels like such an obvious thing to add as a sidegrade.
>>732156482there are two ways to go with cryo. either all in on team synergy but you are expecting your team to kill bugs for you or go with a less efficient build where you do most of the killing yourself. in pubs I would lean towards the latter. I highly HIGHLY recommend running barbed drills and vampire, Cryo benefits immensely from the extra health and you save secondary ammo clearing bugs with your drills at very little cost. For secondary boiler ray CWC is definitely the best option but heavy hitter EPC works well too. If you can count on your team persistant plasma TCF EPC is still king for fire and forget swarmer/jelly/shredder protection and assisting your scout with nitra collection.For a team build I'd go with 32122 crystal nucleation for a similar playstyle to sticky fuel. Remember to fire AT bugs and not in front of them to get more mileage from your trail. For a more carry build I would go with 21132 snowball. Snowball is the best counter in the game to mactera packs and instafreezes a lot of big threats. Faster turbine spinup is nice to have for self defense but is not strictly necessary. Use snowball to freeze packs of bugs the moment they spawn and then clean them all up with CWC boiler ray. Very effective loadout for standard difficulties and doesn't require any help from your team.
did this update add anything substantial
>>732166692no, and yesif you've never played then it adds quite a lot just with a new biome and mission, but if you've played like 200 hours then no
>>732151829>There goes Detonator Banks - the biggest ASS that ever lived!>What a dOUshe!
>>732166758does the new biome and mission really feel that copy pasted?
>>732166367What would you even add? A beer that buffs your shields?
>>732166931no, not at all, they're very differentresinite mission are *kinda* like egg hunts but not really
>no weapon/oc balanceNIGGER
>>732167165Do you pointy-ears REALLY want weapon balancing in a PvE game?
>Mushroom
>>732167259yes because there are good ideas that don't work just because they do too little damage or have too little ammolike autocannon, it needs an accuracy buff or broken OCs that are literally worse than no OC like burst fire, or having OCs that don't dominate on the weapon like persistent plasma
>>732156057I always remember this one>queueing for deep dive (I'm Rabbit, the first scout)>engie and driller join>second scout joins, doesn't change class>don't really care honestly so I just start the mission>other scout is constantly babbling, sounds like he's talking to us (nobody's responding) but his mic is so quiet that I can't really understand what he's saying>nothing really notable about his performance so far>second map his babbling continues but it sounds like he's talking to someone next to him since his mic is even quieter now>finally just mute him because I'm tired of listening to it>at some point he just starts going down constantly, I remember reviving him and watching him instantly jump into the middle of a pack of grunts to get murked again>after a while we all just stop reviving him until we have a free moment>I assume he started complaining over the mic at some point because I remember one of the other players telling him to calm downI figured he was going to start trying to throw the game and team kill, but to his credit he never did. I was amazed when I saw his stats at the end of the game though.
dogshit game. I wish you faggots would tell me about yourselves so I knew what type of person could possibly enjoy this shit.
>>732145537I play helldivers 2 more specifically because I'm lazy and play with a controller. If DRG could be played effectively with a controller instead of m+kb, I'd play it just as much
>>732145537You mean space marine 2?
>>732145990I wish I could host on-site and job lock the entire lobby to driller.
>>732168063I do love myself a 1 class only games. I hosted an engineer-only game once it was fun chilling and refilling each other's turrets.
>>732168615I've played at least one of each of these, I had the most fun in an engineer-only lobby where one guy went AFK and the rest of us decided to spend every resupply burying him in cheese.
>>732147469BOSCO, BLOWJOB!
I'm extremely disgusted when I found out most deep rock players play for progression and number go up.During my first 50 hours I modded in the developer save state, which unlocks everything and maxes out resources and level.Now I just play whatever build I want and have fun.If you play pretty much soley for progression you dont enjoy the gameplay.On darktide I dont give a fuck about progression play ogryn maxed out every mission and play because I crave a challenge and the adrenaline fueled fun.
>>732168615>play Engies only>discover you can boost others with your RJ250Its nice
>>732169659You're just retarded
Big Bone
>>732169659yeah, you're a fuckin retard
>>732161009There is therefore by your own logic nothing wrong with calling out a retarded scout playing at a difficulty he cannot handle.
>>732169659Found the retard alry
>>732169659>you must play the game the way I do!>I cheat in gamesyikes!
>>732168615For me it's 4 gunners. Just plain dumb fun.
>>732169659zoomers need their loot treadmill or they get bored.
>>732170550>cheating good actually!Why play games at all? Just jump to the end.
>>732169659Freak got bodied lol
>>732170308>by your own logicWrong.
>>732145263So I thought this was on maintenance mode until rogue core came out. I remember playing some alpha of that and it suckedDid they realize they were in deep shit and rolled this back up?
>>732170550>upgrades? in my game? boooooorrriinnnggg, i'll just cheat them in and get to the """"good stuff"""""
>>732170628Why do you need timelocked content to keep playing? Good gameplay isn't enough for you? How do unlocks positively impact gameplay?
>>732170731Nah, they handed the developement to a team down the street.
>>732170776>you need to roll the lottery on whether you get the OC you want this week because... you just do okay?!
>>732170779>How do unlocks positively impact gameplay?by giving an incentive to play, retardthis is such a simple concept
>>732170779I don't. Cheating is avoiding gameplay. In this instance you don't have enough skill called patience, typical for someone very young.
>>732170628Cheating to gain an advantage in PVP isn't the same as cheating to bypass grindy bullshit in a strictly PVE coop game, thoughbeit
>>732170836because it gives you a reason to use and experiment the ones you have before new ones you fucking idiotstay cheating, stay losing
>>732170854>by giving an incentive to play, retardgood gameplay is the incentive to play.
>>732170921yeah, vanilla guns still have good gameplay, and then "overclocks" augment that, retaaaardstay down
>>732170906>because it gives you a reason to use and experiment the ones you have before new ones you fucking idiotit doesn't take an entire fucking week to figure out whether an OC is good or not.
>>732170836>BUT MOOOOM I WANT IT NOOOW>TYRONE AT SCHOOL ALREADY HAS A FATBOY, I WANT IT NOOOOW
>>732170998>MY BRAIN IS FRIED FROM GACHA AND LOOTBOXES IF A GAME DOESNT HAVE LOTTERY MECHANICS I WONT PLAY IT
>>732156482>freeze ze bugs>drill ze loners for hp>microwave ze hordes to oneshot with thermal shock>anything slightly too tanky for thermal shock will get refreezed by 3B temperature amplifier>anything more gets axedI quite like it
>>732170960>yeah, vanilla guns still have good gameplay
>>732170836you're supposed to want every OC and to play with your new toy when you get it.you sound like a spoiled 14 year old girl
>>732171264>what do you mean this OC isn't exciting enough to last an entire week?
Not going to lie, some of the thrill dies off when you have every weapon, overclock, and unlockable armor a few hundred hours in. I've forgotten what it's like to be hurting for minerals and gold, or working towards any kind of new content. I'm not a progressionfag, I enjoy the gameplay itself but I have missed the feeling of unlocking something new for about a year now.
>>732171403anon you get like 6 new overclocks every week, plus whatever you find in machine events.if you don't play the fucking game I could understand why you would be dissatisfied with cherry picking.
>>732171445you could work on getting better and play modded difficulties but difficulty and skill as progression is incomprehensible to the zoomer mind who wants everything dumbed down to his level and anime gun skins instead.
>>732171445the unfortunate reality of anything good being finiteyou could start a new save though re-unlocking gear you already had will probably feel hollow
>>732171087>getting OCs one at a time so you can test each of them at your own pace is actually ADHD behaviour, you have to unlock them all at once and then pick the most bombastic ones! That's the stoic way to do it!Maybe if you hadn't deepfried your neurons at age six you'd understood how silly you sound, lil beta.
>>732171445I've only needed unlocks from cargo crates for the past 200 hours and my completion autism won't let me stop. I wonder what'll happen on the other side.
>>732171631I can read and have played FPS before. It does not take a genius to figure out which OCs are good and which ones are shit.
>>732171621>ADHD sweatfest you first make harder and then easier through cheats>not the most zoomie thing out there
>>732171719I can play 6x2 just fine without OCs. Can you?
>>732171683>I'M FUCKING NINE MOOM!>I DESERVE THAT OC NOOOW! I KNOW IT'S GOOD, TYRONE TOLD ME!*pats head* Sure you do, brat. Sure you do.
>>732171751I've played enough in modded difficulties to know they're utter nonesense. Know that nobody cares whatever bullshit you do in your lonesome, including me.
>>732171621I can shrug off Haz 5 and 5+ with SOME modifiers, I guess I should git gud and learn to survive 2/2/2/2 mode as my next big challenge. Are there any modded difficulties that aren't just "fuck you five spitballers and thirty macteras"?
>>732171621>doesnt mod in anime skins along with custom difficultycouldnt be me
>>732171775Says the zoomer with fried dopamine receptors. I can appreciate when a game doesn't hold my hand, gives me all the tools to start with, and expects me to figure it out on my own. Loot treadmills exist to artificially inflate playtime for spastics who need an excuse to keep playing because they don't give a shit about the gameplay itself.
>>732171865>I've played enough in modded difficulties to know they're utter nonesenseNonsense how?
>>732156346if everybody leaves the pod via zipline you will fail the mission
>>732146560I like to give all my classes a theme
>>732146560>tfw my crew consists of>hulk hogan>robotnik>tronald dump>and me
>>732172241It's just not particularly fun. And the other type of modded lobby where hosts spawn constantly bulks and other random shit gets old fast as well.
>>732172336Ganondwarf
>>732171960>Are there any modded difficulties that aren't just "fuck you five spitballers and thirty macteras"?Seehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQSqelqg2MpHbJL5YmfA8wPwrhK3UxBaHDFMS3dw0ZHXVqwrWowQ9pwGY1iA2li2ZnSVjUXjDoUrLlJ/pubhtmlMost modded difficulties stress speed and pacing. 6x2 is considered the gold standard difficulty. It offers a good balance of challenge with minimal RNG and you can run just about anything if you are a skilled player.
>>732172417>And the other type of modded lobby where hosts spawn constantly bulks and other random shit gets old fast as well.20 player meme lobbies with all secondary objectives and all bulks is not the same as a standard 4 player 6x2 lobby that plays very similarly to vanilla.
>>732172312My scout's theme is that he's literally me (a racist fag)
>>732169739>play Engies only>you can EM discharge other people's turrets
>>732145263I got the gunner to the last legendary rank and dropped the game shortly after. I haven't played in years. I can't remember exactly why, but I think I got tired of the yellow virus memes.
>>732146560Nobody nose
>>732169659Based, don't let the zoomers addicted to farming overclocks for 8 months (assuming they don't miss a week, do both deep dives and the weekly mission) tell you otherwise
>>732172902Yeah rockpox for two updates was pretty rough. The last update before they put the game on life support was the ability to turn it off which makes it seem even they knew how shit it was.
>>732173183The thing is that there's nothing wrong with the occasional rockpox. I like cumming on the walls. Having it happen almost every mission was tiresome.
Hmm.. Today I will dig a hole
Do you use any mods? I've had a pretty low opinion of them because most are "Brighter objective so you can see it across the fucking map in pitch darkness!" or "extra audio cues because I'm a fucking casual!" type cheats. But I changed my opinion when I saw this thing today.Other than that, the cosmetic restriction remover as well, of course. I like being able to paint the christmas elf armor and use double pick backsides.
STONE AND ROCK ON THE STONE N' ROCKER! STONE AND ROCK, STONE N' ROCKER! YEHEEAHH!!
>>732174537The overheat meter on the crosshair should be in the vanilla game
>>732151047It probably wasn't this hat specifically they sought to fix. For a long time the jiggle physics on all of them were like 5 times too high. Even just idling on the cosmetic picker screen caused them to spaz out.
>>732174537gmod tool gun and squeaky hammer is fun to have
>>732150515Took me a second to notice that was humanoid dotty. Should have emphasized the boobs more.
>>732174537The only thing I used mods for was to join bulk-only lobbies, and the doom soundtrack. Peak kino tbqh
>>732152117I have immense respect for a man who likes a style, sticks to it, and makes himself easily recognised regardless of class.You rock and stone.
>>732175197Dotty doesn't have breasts
>>732175337She does in my head
>>732148986Stellar use of tam o'shanter. I don't know why I didn't use it in a loadout myself.
>>732147556This. Fuck battlepasses, fuck warbonds.
>>732161357>At the moment the game is honestly too easyYou got what you wanted, why are you upset? The devs u-turned and went all in on catering to people like you who insisted on playing on high difficulties while demanding it be brought down to your skill level.
>>732175337How certain are you?
>>732175337Give R&D five minutes.
>>732169659Good work cheating yourself out the progression I guess but nobody really cares
>>732174537The only mod I used was the Fumo mod, but it started getting outdated from lack of updates
>>732175487>You got what you wantedExcept good performance but yeah, the game is much better than it was at launch difficulty wise. I'd rather take too easy than retardly unfun
Friendslop
>>732175858If they ever make a DRG2 I hope they make mod framework break less. Things like model replacements shouldn't ever break if they made it right.
>>732175954I only play with my enemies because I hate all my teammates
>>732169659You played for 50 hours after robbing yourself of a sense of earning what you have.I played for about 1.5k and counting and grinded everything legit.Which of us really "enjoys the gameplay?"
>>732149705Im RETARDED and stuck on my ps5 so sorry
>>732170861Players having an advantage in PVP is bullshit. But if you're only against NPC bugs it's asymmetrical anyways. I'd much rather grind in a PVE environment.
It is insane to me that some people can go 1,000 hours playing as a single class and never experience the other three
>>732174537I couldn't play without sprint by default - hold to walk and fast molly, I host 8 player lobbies and calling the mule from one end of the map to another was so annoying
>>732176346Normally I'd be against excessive conveniences like "fast molly" if all was equal, but if you're modding max players, it becomes fine again, I think.
>>732176314I played scout exclusively for so long, played gunner once and liked him way more and then played the rest of the classes
>>732176314Yeah. I split my playtime apart, just by nature of teams needing anything when I need to complete missions. My least played class is only like 3 promotions behind my most played.
>>732176314I didn't touch scout for a couple hundred hours because I associated him with tf2 scouts, which are all annoying cunts. That and the other three just seemed to have more fun weapons. Now he's probably my second favorite to play.
Gunner > Scout > Driller > Engineer
>perks not mentioned ITTBeen playing with the exact same perks for, what, around 4 years now?Maybe add some new ones hm?
>>732151759Just join other missions, most people are nice. Rock and Stone!
>>732176750Worst support tool = worst class. I don't make the rules. I just live with them.
>>732152117I run that helmet and monochromatic combo too on my engie.
>>732177146Driller has the worst support tool though.
>>732176935They should add higher tiers of existing perks. That would give us something to spend the 200-300 extra perk points on fucking finally.
>>732176750>Scout > Engineer > Driller > Gunnerthe grappling hook is just too much fun.
>>732172290>play solo mission as gunner>finally decide on trying the zip line out of pod thingI learned that the hard way, that was quite a surprise.
>>732177243Supreme bait.Drills let you reshape the map. There is not a more powerful tool than free omni-directional movement through the game's walls.
>>732177243Absolutely insane, knife-eared take
>>732177289they do that in rogue core :^)
>>732177289that's a good idea, a perk sink is extremely needed and just boosting existing perks is a quick solution.
>>732177457I'm probably going to buy it... under protest. I'm pretty certain I'll be going right back to DRG afterwards though.
>>732157768It gets more fun the more you play it. You'll unlock overcloxks for the weapons that adds features to them.
>>732163894Get the green skin color
UR A GOOD MULE MOLLLLYYYYY
>>732177727I disagree
>>732157768The customizable guns and class tools make the game, IMO.Being able to micromanage your gun's upgrades to build it how you like makes you very different than your teammates (especially with OC's like anon mentioned).And each of 4 classes having different useful tools makes you dependent on each other in very natural, emergent ways (and not just in cheap L4D "You need them to free yourself when something grabs you" gimping).You really don't need autism to get the game... except maybe if you don't see the joy in mining gold and ore. That might be my particular brand of autism.
>>732171230Yeah it is good, got a problem pal.>shoots you
>>732175197>>732175493We need to save dottie's ass and tits!
>>732176750>gunner not being bottomWorst Mobility and Driller has better crowd control than you, fattie.
>>732177868I'm still mad at how they handled overclocks there's guns I only have 2 (dos) overclocks because shitty RNG and they never bothered to fix it
>>732176750anyone replying to this putting gunner at the bottom has never played a game of haz5+ in their lives
>>732176314I play everyone except scout>Engineer because it's the most self sufficient and helpful class>Driller because you can go anywhere>Gunner when I wanna turn my brain off and just kill things
>>732178356Shields are a crutch. If you need them to complete every stage, did you really beat it?
>>732178474yeahgoing down is a skill issue anyway
>People think Scout is the class with the most freedom of movement>It's actually DrillerIt's a mining game, the answer was obvious from the start. Once you learn you can just autism tunnel to any objective Driller becomes the best class.
>>732178348Just keep playing. The most important part of the OC system is there are zero repeat drops, so the game will never artificially extend the time it takes you to unlock all of them.
>>732177727>Play my first missions>Escape sequence happens>It's okay, just follow the markers Molly leaves and you can make it safely back to the pod :^)>Molly crawls up a 30 foot vertical wall and phases through a dirt ceiling>mfw playing solo Gunner
>>732176043While it did break from time to time I meant more so that it wasn't updated for the new updates so you were collecting your touhou fumos and suddenly a vanilla event item would appear. The other jank I remember was that Doretta had a regular head for the drilling part and it only turned into a fumo when it exploded. Not sure if that's an engine limitation or the author never realized Doretta's head is actually two different models for the different phases
>>732178623Yep. I like platform gun better than grapple too. I want to reshape the map to my specifications.
>>732177420Drills are his mobility tool, you buffoon.His support tool is C4.
GO ROLL IN THE HIGHWAY YOU FREAAAK!
>>732146560>Day 52>They still haven't realize
>>732178874I'll take the wiki's word for it before I take yours.
>>732170738
ROUND OF GLYPHID SLAMMERS PLEASE!
>>732179048And I actually play videogames so I'll go with what the actual game says over a fucking wiki.You also have to be a total retard to not realize that every class has a tool for mobility and a tool for non-mobility support>scoutMobility: Grappling hookSupport: Flare gun>gunnerMobility: Zip lineSupport: Shield>engineerMobility: Platform gunSupport: Turret>drillerMobility: DrillsSupport: HMM I WONDER WHAT GOES HERE
>>732179659>get in drop pod>"anon, beer">peek outside>shake head no
>>732178873Same. My favorite is doing parkour in Dense Biozone.
>>732179850>kicks from lobbyYou drink this Mactera BRAAAAPPPPER Brew or you are getting shot.
For me, its>Mortar Rounds Thunderhead + BRT Gunner>Thermal Conductor Drak + whatever Scout>ECR LOK-1 + VIR Shard Defractor Engie>Sticky Flames + Explosive Reload Subata Driller
>>732179883Maybe he's wondering why you would shoot a dwarf after kicking him out of a lobby.>>732149874Karl's Good Fortune on this STINKIN' HELL-HOLE!
>>732179797Driller's should be switched though.>DrillsSupport your team by making extra space and shortcuts>C4Moves scouts straight into hell where they belong
>>732179797You don't "support" your team by digging them through the map? For the record, the word "support tool" is literally never used anywhere in-game to describe the C4. Or anything for his class whatsoever. Checkmate.
>>732179850You will drink or we're not going anywhere, 'tis the rules
>>732179850You're a an grownup dwarf. Drink your beer.
>>732180095>lok1that's a kick
>>732179850Drink your liquid death Blackout Stout and die on the spot OR ELSE
>join haz 4>2 unpromoted scouts
>>732180679>haz 4who gives a fuckyou should be able to easily solo a 4man haz 4
>>732180679It's haz 4, just carry them Grampa.
>>732180242>You don't "support" your team by digging them through the map?Everyone's mobility tool except for scout's can be used by the entire team.But everyone also has an extra tool that supports the team in a way other than mobility, like the shield, the turret, or the flare gun. Also keep in mind the shield and the flare gun are actually referred to as the support tool in-game, and the shield, flare gun, turret, and C4 all occupy the same loadout slot, slot 4, whereas all of the traversal tools occupy slot 3. It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together.
>>732180787...But does the C4 call itself a "support tool?" Checkmate.
>>732180776>>732180753>in the dark>no nitra being mined>no bosco>double dipping galore
>>732180881If they take your ammo, shoot them like god intended.
>>732145263Thoughts on the new season? I saw there's a new mission type, biome, and some enemies. I haven't played in a year or so.
>>732180881Its haz 4 you could pick a bulk to death
>>732180753>>732180881>runs ahead>dies in hard to reach areas>wave starts
>>732153660I miss the old generation
>>732181007my brother in christ you should be able to solo a haz 4 wave
best turret placement and loadout?
>>732180965Its surprisingly good.New mission type is fine, its like the resonance crystal one without the tedious ending bit and more teamworkNew biome is meh but at least its something. I have been bitching about the game needing new visual content forever.New enemies are actually NOT annoying somehow
>>732181050Turrets do not matter unless you're running Turret Whip or either of the two electrocution setups.For Turret Whip all that matters is total ammo.For electrocution setups the turrets themselves are irrelevant. Bring build speed and the Gemini perks.
oh fuck7 (SEVEN)whatever they're calledthe least I've got was 2 tho
>>732181053I like the new biome because it's just a basic ass dusty old cave and it's funny to see that after almost a decade of all the other more crazy biomes.
>>732181050Single MKII turret. Defender system. Nothing else really matters because now you're getting optimal damage per bullet fired, so just choose your favorites.
>>732180837Do the drills call themselves a support tool? Checkmate.
>>732175456Thanks, now go and play No one lives Forever
>>732181050placement depends on your build, if you use EM discharge stubby place it in a central area so you can abuse the discharge, otherwise place it so it faces out towards the area where most enemies will be coming fromdo not use gemini (double turret), it's a noob trap, don't listen to the bronze promos that recommend it, you end up wasting time babysitting the turrets
>>732181043nigger do you think if you keep saying this someone will be impressed?
>>732180881>ignores the core stone and machine event>calls the drop pod
>>732181230nta but he's right, haz 4 is baby mode unironically, even haz 5 you should be able to solo a 4 man wave unless you're playing m1k scout and you absolutely suck, but even then you're scout so you can just evade indefinitely
>>732181203I already have, top to bottom. But I really should finish 2 someday.
>>732181228Gemini is a must-have on EM discharge. Literally doubles your killbox.
>>732181313we're not gonna fuck you because you can solo haz 5 bro
>>732181402depends on what your situation is, in multi I'll never take gemini under any circumstance because I'm usually babysitting other players, so I just want my turret to hold a point/pick off shitters and be available for me to change spots depending on what my team is doing I usually don't need the constant em discharge uptime and find that the single turret uptime flows better, otherwise you're just spending most of your time sitting on your turrets and shooting them constantly
>>732181263Seems like it happens more with deliberate faggots who call the escape pod when I fucking tell them "there's a machine event, don't call it" than I do with no stars. This game suffered from being covered by Sseth and his little bastard audience who look for online conflict they didn't get from having a father in the home.
Do people still get mad if you stop to mine things
>>732181446ok iron will bronze 1 scout main, nobody is using it as a humble brag, it's like the bare minimum to be a competent player
>>732181559It takes a special breed of faggot to get mad if you see a shiny gold vein and fully intend to mine it. Fortunately that isn't very common. But engies won't always spare a platform for it. And that's sometimes understandable on a budget.
>>732145263Look at all this ammo
>>732181556If you're taking EM discharge I don't know that you have any better tools than just spamming the uptime for dealing with most threats. The SMG hard cucks you for any other utility imo.
Favorite BEER? I love My Mactera Shart brew.
>>732181757THE SUPPLY POD WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH AMMO AND HEALTH.!THIS IS THE RESUPPLY POD!>>732181801Non-buff beer is cringe and gay.
>>732181557>Everything is Sseth's faultThat video was 3 years ago, are you going to be like the Space Station faggots whining for the next decade that everything bad that happened because they failed to gatekeep is magically a single e-celeb's fault?Please do, it's always funny when SS13 fags do it
>>732146056This
>>732181902I have to blame something for the influx of fags with unregulated aggression. I'm not the first to make that connection, but the puzzle piece fits. There's really no other explanation for them picking up a PVE game if their priority is to clash with real people.
>>732181842Only buff beers are sweaty and bad. Drink Leaf Lovers, elf.
>>732178779i really dislike the forced extraction sequence. you can take 4 hrs but as soon as you press that button there's OH SO CRITICAL to get to the ship. would make more sense if you were given a X minutes deadline when you start (depending on mission type etc) and if you go over it's not game over but you don't get a company bonus, and i think it would be more fun as well.
>>732182206runbacks/escape sequences in games are fun and you're a boring faggot that probably just drills a straight line to bypass the entire thing
>>732182206Holy shit what a faggot
>>732182206>and i think it would be more fun as well.No it wouldn't. Some of the best moments I've had in DRG have been running back into a horde of bugs to rez someone so we can both get to the drop pod. It adds a layer of tension you just wouldn't have otherwise.
>>732182363I picked driller and I'm going to use all my drill fuel
Gunner orders a round of Burp drink, I order 2 rounds of fart drink. We all passout, station becomes toxic.
>>732182363how is drilling any worse than your faggot ass using a grappling hook to bypass all the terrain
>>732180965Pretty good, the new weapon framework is really nice lookingnew mission type is basically just look for big shiny rock and dig around it, I've gotten some wave clears taking advantage of the big rockets and kiting all the bugs under it. Not bad, I can't see myself getting annoyed by this mission unlike industrial sabotage scarabs can be annoying and can eat up ammo if you aren't built for it. If you have vampire they count as medium sized bugs so it's some easy HPpitjaws are annoying but they actually don't do that much damage, the real damage comes from your teammates blasting you trying to kill it only real shame is no new OCs but not surprising
>>732181165lmao
>>732182206>I really dislike the forced extraction sequenceLast mission on a deepdive. Me and the boys were in bad shape when the extract was called. They barely had ammo or health, and the scout was downed in a deep canyon. Inside the tunnel with engi and driller when a bulk stomps into the tunnel opening. Drop a shield as the bulk explodes, teammates still die. Try and revive while shield is still up. POS shellbacks knock me off. Fuck my ass what do I do there is shit EVERYWHERE. Absolute panic sets in. I don't have enough time to reach extract with my loadout. Remember scout had an all movement based loadout. Say fuck it and gun my way back down the tunnel so I don't get Mactera aids. Zipline down the canyon, clear bugs off scout, drop my last shield on him, revive, spam run in chat. Get downed right after. Scout spidermans his way back up dodging everything and alternating with his boomstick special powder on hook cooldowns and ends up reaching the drop pod with 1 second to clutch the run. You will never understand the feeling, anon.
>>732183882HELPI CAN'T FEEL MY BEARD
>>732184086Gets on the pod without you.
>>732181050turrets in general suck. their damage and firerate is pitiful regardless of setup.the most value they can provide is a bit of swarmer/jelly clear and occasionally stunning something that's about to vomit on you.1221 is the meta build. I like to put them facing the hold to stun anything that gets past the perimeter but it does make them a bit harder to refill. YMMV.if it seems like a bad idea to stop moving and put down your turrets it probably is. stick with your guns and wait for the swarm to end.
>CUMSYou take a load well Molly.
>MFW the new tunneling enemy is WORSE then a cave leechHoly fuck Oussary is fucking cool and terrifying when a horde of these bastards all over the place.
>>732145263>try to play the game like 4 times>it's not fundamn i just looked i only have 5.7 hours and i haven't played since 2023
>>732185074what hazard are you playing on ? I feel like anything below hazard 4 and you're gonna have a fucking snooze of a time. Hazard 5 is the way the game is meant to be played.
>>732185120the game is balanced around haz 3
>>732185120hazard 5 sucks because the bugs move too fast to simply run away.
>Load into haz 5 lobby>everyone goes their separate way>we end up losing the mission>because two dwarves got leeched>swarm incomingMan what the heck
what should i do in elimination missions as driller? i try to c4 the boss bugs but my teammates are constantly in the blast radius so it's difficult
>>732185674no they don't, they only do that on haz 5+2 aggression, you can easily outrun them on haz5
>>732185778I mean while walking backwards and shooting, which is how you move for like 90% of swarms
>>732185925well then don't only do that, do this thing called "repositioning" like a real gamer
>>732185772I bring acid on those missions and just constantly apply dots and take care of mobs. Fire/ice is too finicky to apply with other dwarfs
>>732183882>You will never understand the feeling, anon.i understand the forced feeling but it fucking sucks if you somehow don't make it back when playing solo and it just wipes the whole session. it makes no sense to have this chill game where you can take 8 hrs to fuck around just to stress out the last minute.it's so bad that i've just made it a habit to go as high up as i can in the cave before pressing the button, proving the point that it's a very forced part of the game since i can take my time to go as high as possible before pretending there's some sort of need to rush.
>>732185950only scout has that, everyone else that turns around and gets 1 shot by the slashers
>I only drink buff beers and play HAZ 5+Sweaty dwarves aren't allowed round here.
>>732185925>I can't just S+M1 until the enemies are all dead>I have to prioritize targets and use my movement capabilities to their fullest>this sucks somehow
>>732185994no, every class has great ways to reposition that isn't just "grapple 50 feet away" if you use your head and environment better
>>732185772Driller doesn't do much unless you're actively freezing a boss at the correct moment, and that's assuming someone isn't screwing you over with fire damage. Getting a good freeze on bosses with weak points basically skips the phase and saves a shit ton of time and ammo, but that's also assuming your team takes advantage of it in the first place.Without cryo cannon, just keep the thing on fire or covered in goo. Not much else to do. It's almost never worth it to C4 the boss unless it's the one with the three weak points and no one is around. In general, just pretend you're helping.
>>732185772Sludge T5A slows dreads by 85%. You have to stack the corrosion slow and the puddle slow but it's very effective for keeping the boss locked in place. Heavy hitter EPC or full auto subata probably best secondary to go with it.
>>732186009bro your haz4 games don't even show up on my list, i filter you casuals out
>>732185979>>732186063>>732186064thanks lads
>>732186295Also if needed you can prioritize drilling the arena for escape routes or make the terrain easier to kite/fight.
>>732161357Hellmire had the right amount of difficulty thougheverbeit
>>732186342yeah i do that before the fights and people seem to appreciate that
>>732186091Yeah, you drink your buff beers and LEAF LOVERS you tryhard bastard.
>>732145685Karl killing the source of the Glyphids is the only way he could ever live up to the game's joke reputation for him and the only way the "DIE LIKE YOUR MOTHER DID" line will ever make sense
>>732185994Your Dash?
>>732186479difference here is i *could* play haz 4 if i wanted to but your ass would not step into a haz5+ game if you were paid to, so sit down and stay bad at the game
>>732186050I would love to hear what you think engi or driller should do short of blowing themselves up. The drill won't clear the bugs fast enough and the pancakes do not stop bugs at all, which will often just attack straight through them when you can't see them.Even the gunner shield is just a stopgap at best unlike the grapple.
>>732186626that has like a 5 minute CD and isnt meant for regular use like the amount of times you would need to commonly reposition in a fight.
>>732186642>He can't cheese parkour away from bugs
>>732186642you use fear to clear bugs around youyou pop a zip then jump into ityou put some fire on the wall the drill up into it you plat into some elevation and look for a gap to crossyou hug the wall to adjust the bugs pathingyou hop on resups or any other machinery to gain heightyou use your shredders to slow down bugs near youand most importantly, you use the fucking dashand that's just off the top of my head
>>732186681holy shit you do not even play the game dude, it has maybe a 30s downtime and is used CONSTANTLY in waves, god damn
>>732186638>Elf is trying to show off his braveryYou pointy eared gits need to fuck off of Hoxes.
>>732186928like i said, i filter you out anyway, you got your low-haz playpen and i'll handle the real jobs, greenbeard
>>732186642driller has the best slows in the game and can drill away at any point so if you get surrounded it's a legitimate skill issue. engie is the only one that really struggles to get bugs off of him which is why breach cutter is such a staple for high level play because of the immediate space it makes. above all else the key to not getting surrounded is to have good situational awareness killing bugs before they get close enough to be a problem. spamming jump, staying on the move, and good dash usage is also very important.
>sludge pump>extra slow>extra small blobsMy favorite weapon
>got every cosmetic and OC on PS4 when it first released>can't be arsed to do the entire OC grind again on PCI totally forgot how long it takes to get these
>>732185772Freeze+axes. Or run a direct damage oc on your primary of choice. I recommend acid with the shotgun OC.As for c4, not really worth it except for when you've got a hiveguard, you can hit all 3 weakpoints at once. Just use it to terraform or remove loose bugs while exploring.
Why does driller look so goofy
>>732186978>getting assblasted by triple speed 5x health bugs is real jobsMasochistic fecker.
>>732187198EXPLOSIVES PLAHCED
>>732187198fuck you?
>>732151970iirc its release was great but then they fucked the entire game up and then supposedly reverted it and fixed itmy little experience tells me that that usually means that they fucked it up permanently because they're hacks that chanced on lightning in a bottle but the fans are coping that its fine when it really isnt, so anyone joining later will never know how fun it really was and also wont have as much fun as those there from the start
>>732185925not my ass, do you know what sticking and moving is ? on haz five and DEF on plus you need to run forward with your back turned to your enemy and jump turn and shoot and kill them as you navigate the enviroment. Scout will teach you how to do this shit because he is ass during waves.
>>732188368the thing i've found hazlets never learn is actual situational awareness, or knowing what's happening without needing to look at it. haz5 teaches you how to actually think, plan, and keep track of enemies and is most likely the number one thing that filters people, the idea of "wow what was i supposed to do"
>>732181557The game suffered from the devs spending the last 3 years making a fucking vampire survivors clone. Anyone still playing is a mega-sweat with all unlocks who doesn't care about machine events or a noob. Absolutely zero effort to add replayability or content by the devs.
>>732188734gsg didn't make survivorsthey did however spend the last three years making a roguelike no one asked for, at leats get it right
>>732188734I don't know why you wouldn't try to do everything in a cave for the exact reason the game has been out forever. I've long long LOOOONG since had all the OC's, but I still have fun fighting an OMEN module for nothing but a pack of a random resource. Or mining all the nitra well above what we need for a successful completion, or even just the gold (as long as it isn't too inconvenient). I mean, that's just playing the game. I'd have dropped it if I didn't see the joy in all of those things.
>>732179850psycho behaviour
>>732174537Other the ones that lower settings and other graphic stuff for a better stability and fps? mostly for hosting 40 or 70 player lobby and make the mission more harder or fun + tons of bugs.
>>732158969this makes everything make sense. Only the most autistic and retarded sonic-obsessed faggots like this game. Now I understand why you retards go on about it like it's not utter trash. You're a bunch of Chris-chan's.
>>732145537We need not be enemies. You take the surface, we take the tunnels.
>>732182008I doubt anywhere near as many people watched that video as have heard you fucking losers ranting about this game constantly.
>>732174537Cosmetic Restriction Remover, Profanity Booster and Expanded Lure are a must.
>>732176431Indeed, the mod "peronal mule" is also neat but it breaks at least one or two mission type and you can't call the drop pod.
>>732146646>Spend hundreds of hours grinding for Overclock to make nerfed weapons fun again, goyYeah I dipped immediately once they did that.
>>732190520y-you can't make the dwarves say "fuck"
You know what they say about shellbacks?
>haz5 blood sugar/low oxygen deep scan mission>most fucked cave generation ever, the way to next area was blocked by so much shit and so many bugs were spawning constantly >two people quit at the last stretch because it was just so annoying having to juggle with things going off >get a shit ass beard for driller as a reward>still had funbullet hell is surprisingly fun to use, I know it's not optimal but it's cool watching it clear out grunts like nothing else
>>732171445i started playing modded, especially the "all secondaries" mod was a breath of fresh air i was not expecting. that and multiple players rebalanced.
>>732145537The bots are the only good and well designed faction in helldivers. Bugs are extremely boring and done better in games like DRG.
they added a new mission? what's it like
>>732192089boring
>>732185074The game really opened up for me once I promoted my first dwarf and I became able to use overclocks. Some of the early game felt a bit grindy before that.
>>732187172just use a save editor to give yourself what you had on ps4
>>732192089Maybe Im crazy but all the new type missions got very overlapping narrow ass tunnels
>someone grabs compressed gold >everyone stops what they're doing and keeps hitting WE'RE RICH on it>keeps doing it until Mission Control bitches than everyone just rock and stones and goes back to whatever they were doingexplain
Would you deeprock players still play the game if everything was unlocked from day 1?I hate artificial grinding treadmills, and I feel like if you just play to chase that reload speed overclock this week you dont really enjoy the moment to moment gameplay.When I boot up street fighter, or dota, or left 4 dead 2 i dont give a rats ass about arbitrary unlocks and just want to play the fucking game and get in a match as soon as I can, what is this zoomer unlock gacha bullshit lmfao if you need that to play you dont enjoy drg.
>>732145537I liked the game until I realized everything is locked behind fucking battle passes. Nah bro. I'm good.
>>732192518Same, refunded that shit so quick.
>>732192486They're rich, that's cause for celebration
>>732192089Find big orange rock, dig it out, attach rockets, press button. It spawns a wave of bugs.It's like the morkite caves mixed in with egg hunt.
>>732145990Based and also minmaxxing the length of each pipe segment as much as you can
>>732192089It's pretty much a "filler" type mission, a mix of Mining Expedition, Egg Hunt and Deep Scan, with a looping layout, long tunnels and occasional cave with Resinite depositI think it's a pretty alright addition to the mix, especially how it loops around from the starting position - you can split at the start and speedrun it real fast
Elves are cool actually
>>732192507You'll enjoy the game more if you just don't care about the unlocks and instead treat them as a nice bonus from time to time. Also any time you get an overclock equip it immediately. I made the mistake of unlocking them in bulk and now I have many overclocks that I have no attachment to.
>>732192507well i've unlocked everything 200 hours ago and i'm still going
>>732180429ECR is the best swarm clear engine has dough.
Opinions? I have 1k hours in game and think everything is viable up to H5
>>732195534Warthog and BRT rated way too low, LOK and Wave Cooker rated way too high.Otherwise, pretty agreeable.
>>732192507Core gameplay is solid enough that i didn't really mind the grind and i played it before they let you get OCs from promoting
>>732195534I like sludge better than flamer and cryo personally.
>>732146646Lmao. See ya in 200 hours when you're still unlocking that one overclock you need to make a gun viable on haz5.
>>732195864Honestly sludge would probably be S tier as well if it had 20-40 more base ammo in the reserve. It's a very fun weapon with multiple decent overclocks just can't go the distance like crispr/cyro can.
>>732195534sludge pump should be higher, honestly all 3 of his primaries are on the same levelepc should be S, tcf should've been nerfed a long time ago
>>732195963tcf was nerfed and is nowhere near as prolific as it was, used to be every single driller was running it pre cooker release. Cooker itself is so ridiculous that I feel it makes tcf less relevant, just get bitch boy scout to suck up minerals like the good literally mineral cuck he is supposed to be
>>732195894i was playing haz5 with bouncy drak (no aoe damage) and double barrel shottie and i was fine and those are all but optimal.i've seen many engies with the shottie and fatman in haz 5 and both of those options suck ass, especially fatman>>732195963how would you nerf tcf so it's a good option but not completely useless? it feels like one of those things that you fundamentally can't nerf because the pure utility of it simply can't be beat.like nerfing ntp
>>732192486We used to have Richuals that would go on indefinitely before thet added the voicelines.
>>732195534I wish the Subata was better, I love my little peashooter.
>>732196082tcf isn't just for mining minerals, it does a shit ton of aoe damage as wellreally tho, the only straight up bad weapon in the game is the subata
>>732196126nobody loves the subata
>>732196158I run the Subata on the Driller constantly, its great. The damage output with explosive reload is insane.I have never been able to use EPC effectively.
>>732196148I actually think the BRT is worse than Subata.
>>732196260BRT has stun, and can be built to take long enough to empty that born ready reloads your primary.
>>732196364
>>732196260lead spray is pretty good as an autocannon side for when you play stuff like ntp
>>732196421didnt mean to reply just forgot to clear the number
>>732196454
>>732196364Yeah but weighing up respective choices for each class Subata isn't really directly replaceable except for maybe a heavy hitter EPC which overheats like a motherfucker but with gunner both bulldog and coil can be built to do what brt does but better in terms of usability and ammo economy.
>>732196495
>>732196495woah
>>732196534
>>732145786Replace zipline with grind rail. Instant improvement.
>>732196610
>MUSHRUM>BIG BONEY BONEI require more environmental lines.
>>732196636
>>732196502Bulldog and coil unfortunately can't be built so that I never stop firing.
>>732196675
>>732196641ITS A GOO SACK!
>>732196641the big boney bone feels way too forced, given they preemptively given it a mission control response
>>732196770This is a gurken shuck, if I'm not mistaken.
>>732196926just a bit yeah. but I don't mind. I like the interactions with mission control and more of them arent a bad thing.there's a few more situations I think would be fun if misison control got pissed about, like playing with the data rack at the end of a sabotage or the same thing with the ommaran heartstone. the data rack especially, people toss that thing around all the time.
>>732195530>vir laser walks into the room
>>732196082tcf is the best secondary for making scunts seethe and for dealing absurd aoe damage, I will NEVER unequip it
>>732145537You can play more than one game you retarded need euro cuck.
did they make the game harder or am i just rusty? i got all dwarves on legen 1 but been dying quite a bit, i didn't play s5 so maybe they made it harder back then but it seems there's more enemies and they are more aggressive
>>732152849Lol
>>732197669They broke bug footstep sounds a while back which made it a bit harder to notice bugs sneaking up on you if you're not spinning around constantly.
>>732197775a while back? why isn't it fixed then
>>732197839It only took them like 3 years to fix upgrades not working with AG micture...
>>732197775>>732197839install the radar mod, it has a very small range to fix exactly this problem
>>732195534the only guns that stand out in my opinion are>subata it's dogshit but can be mildly viable with explosive reload>the crossbowrequires to change your entire loadout/build to fit that gun since its more of a support gun than anything else and also quite hard to use>engies shotgun amazing with MPA, shit with anything else>wave cookereither just to proc exothermic or to contaminate, doesnt to much damage and you normally end up wasting a lot of ammo since you don't need much to proc exothermic or spread aids>coil gunreally awkward when used as area damage, not really that viable to one shot important targets if used for single target either
>scout joins lobbyKICK!Why do people play this garbage class?
>>732198215coilgun is top tier, take mole so you get damage ramping through wallsif you have an engi ask him to make a 4 platform stack and then put some vertical holes in it with uncharged shots, if you then shoot bugs horizontally through it you can 1 shot up to haz5 bulks and oppressors and 2-3 shot dreadsalso you can 1 hit scouts through the map which immediately makes it the best secondary
Newbie Gunnerbro here, what's best between the Minigun and the mini rocket launcher
>>732198315shitters see it as the mlg class, and frankly it makes it all the better when you farm the seethe from downing them
Why people hate scouts? I never really understood the hate against them
Did they release any new Overclocks or rebalance old ones in this expansion?I wish there were some kind of modifiers or overclock-style sidegrades for things other than weapons, even if it's only one-per-thing
>>732198453rockets by far, either use the plasma OC or the aoe one
>>732184086this is midna, isn't it
>>732198381brother thats extremely specific, you are relying too much on external factors, what if you join/host a game and no engies show up, or if they don't want to cooperate, or if the area is quite open and you don't have walls to shoot through? coilgun is just for AOE and even then its not as effective as magic bullets + toxins, it is fun to use with fire aoe
>announce a new game>OG DRG crew in canonically too bitch made to get into the core of hoxxesthis FUCKING SUCKS
>>732198486always have the most downs, always not doing their jobs (light up the fucking cave you faggot), contribute the least to damage, always have an attitude when given tips, can't do anything useful to the map like the other 3
are the servers down ? deep dives, server list and weekly missions don't workt.newfag
>>732198653Dont forget about fem dwarves
yass queen
>>732198651you misunderstand, that's just a meme setup, even 1 penetration through terrain gets you +130 damage, plus you get dot ticks from the lightning trail, I've never had an instance where I couldn't get at least one wall or something to go throughand once again, one shotting scouts through terrain is the most important factor
>>73219821532223 Coil Gun is absurdly OP with the instant Fear, Slow + DoT, Shockwave in front of the player (especially against small and squishy enemies), shooting through walls, penetrating and damaging through ANY armor and destroying breakable armor in the process and amazing ammo efficiency with Controlled Magnetic FlowAnd that's all just the utility and upgrades, not the shot itselfAnd that's WITHOUT any OCs
>>732198595Thanks.
>>732196495I need this mod
>>732195534LOK1 with chemical rounds is nothing short of S+
>>732167060Give me a beer that buffs my pings.
>>732198675I see. I only play with friends so I didn't really know. I guess this is because scout is somewhat "harder" than the rest because you have to light up the caves, focus on HVT instead of focusing on grunts and also do not die to cave leech like a retard
>>732190980they KEEP ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN (what)
>>732194653straight up edit ur save and enjoy whatever you want whenever you want>>732195534subata pistol rated way too low, explosive reloads as a long-ranged secondary are so good.
>>732190980IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE CAVES
STOP GLAZING THE SUBATA
>>732198486>Get to end screen>Every has 300+ kills>Scout has 50They're a drain on resources >Muh lighting, muh mineralsWe get infinite flares and can mine as we go. Don't need some retarded spastic flying around, ignoring enemies and calling molly away from the group to deposit 40 gold. Shit class favored by shit players
why are spreaders like this
>>732198486Scout have literally one job: To light up the place. Everything else is secondary. Most scouts fail at their job.
boolo cap
>>732198486They hate us because the aint us brother. Scout is the best class in the game. They cant help but seethe at us as we gracefully sore through the air like an angel. Meanwhile they're all stuck on the ground just fucking around.
>>732199904>:(
>>732199709Wrong.Scout has the most jobs>nitra > all else>flares>HVT elimination>emergency rescue>secondary objectives>team support with grenades>bait for bulks/ghosts
>>732200009most scouts can't even succeed at any one of those, let alone all of themshooting flares is the easiest fucking task any class is tasked with and yet upwards of 50% or more of scouts fail to do it
>>732200106How is that relevant to what I just said or what I was responding to.God /v/ is so fucking illiterate these days. Zoomers are just fucked for life ig.
>>732199528sorry the scouts you played with were so shit
thinkin bout thos scouts again
