Can you recommend me what to play next based on this preference? PC only, no sidescrollers / platformers, Prefer dark atmosphere.I know Nioh 3 is coming out but what elese?
I'm sorry OP I can't put myself in the shoes of a total retard. You'll have to make this journey on your own
>>732167273Have you tried Wuchang?
>>732167273The surge always seemed super fucking cool, and it is certainly less parry focused, more so clobbering everything, i haven’t played it tho, so cant vouch for its quality
>>732167273lies of p parrying isn't like sekiro tho.sekiro is a pseudo parry, lies of p is true parry, also, you don't need to parry to beat the game.
>>732167273I can tell you with 99% certainty that you're going to "love" black myth wukong. I'd bet you place it right below ER. the issue is that shit hasn't ever gone on a real sale.
>>732167273Rise of the Ronin
>>732167507Playing Lies of P without parrying sounds miserable
it's fucking insane that you put the surge 1 above wo long.I didn't know opinions could be wrong, but /v/ teaches me every day.
>>732167401>I can't put myself in the shoes of a total retard.Uhhhh, yeah you can, because you already do that.
>>732167273The Nioh 3 demo - it's pretty substantial, your save transfers over to the actual gameWuchang - the best soulslike I played last year. Chink game that tries to mash together combat mechanics from other soulslikes and comes close understanding Dark Souls level design with back-tracking shortcuts and stuff. Another Crabs Treasure - a little similar to sekiro, emphasis on parrying and a hermit crab grabbing trash that gives it abilities and armor as a 'shell'Stranger of Paradise - A lot of fun
Wuchang Wuchang Wuchang
>>732167273>hated lies of p>reason is parryingMan you got filtered hard. I played lies of p 3 times and never use parry it's 1 tool of the 1000000 you have and is generally the worst one for most situations. The legion arms are SIGNIFICANTLY better uses of your actions.
>>732167273>hated sekirohow mentally challenged does one have to be to lack this much taste
>>732168141 (me)I forgot to mention No Rest for the Wicked. It's a soulslike but from a fixed camera perspective. Early access but I read somewhere that it is releasing this year and jacking the price up to $60.I've only got 10 hours in it because the Nioh 3 demo distracted me but I've had a lot of fun with it so far.
>>732167273the best soulslike (with a better story) is salt and sanctuary
>>732167273>Prefer dark atmosphere.Wuchang. That shit is horrible man. 'The Shaft' may be one of the most graphically sickening areas in any soulslike.
Thoughts?
>>732169665How is Absolver a Soulslike?
>>732169746>emergent PvP>bonfire equivalent respawns and refills>environmental storytelling>fashion
>>732167273Try Hellpoint. The Surge 2 is also solid even if the maps are a downgrade compared to the original. Stay away from Dolmen, I am astounded it got a physical release.No idea if you'd like Mortal Shell since Harden is kinda like parrying meets super armor.
>>732167273You seem to like hot garbage (like me) so try Asterigos
>>732169665Thymesia being that low is a bit much since it wasn't that bad, same with The Surge. I also think putting The Surge 2 so much higher than 1 is kinda crazy considering it's not that much of an improvement and a downgrade in many other ways like map and enemy design.Picture related is mine. I constantly toy with DaS3 and DaS2's placements because DaS3 had so many ass maps but I enjoyed playing it more than DaS2, while DaS2 had some solid maps but horrendous enemy placement and rough combat. I'd also probably put Where Winds Meet around Mortal Shell, probably below Mortal Shell.I do own Rise of the Ronin, Lies of P, Stellar Blade, Enotria, I'm Going to Kill Chaos, and NuLotF but haven't gotten around to them yet.I also plan on getting Another Crab's Treasure, Wuchang, Wo Long, and Khazan at some point.Don't plan on playing Nioh 2 or 3, I already had enough of Nioh 1 personally. I hate Diablo Loot with a fury as it's the worse thing ever introduced into gaming and I just wasn't having fun with it the longer I played it to the point that the DLC was agonizingly bad. I still think it's a pretty solid game for the people who want something like it though, can't deny that.
>>732169993I wish everything about Mortal Shell wasn't deliberately ass because hardening to super armor through hits or delay attacks was genuinely cool.
>>732171287I'd argue Mortal Shell is a game where you have to get used to its quirks before it gets good because once you get Harden down, know what weapon you like, and know what Shell you like it gets significantly better. The roguelike mode they added in particular takes advantage of you figuring your playstyle out. Early on it feels like absolute garbage though, especially the tutorial area. It's so easy to get turned around and everything hits like a truck because it already expects you to understand Harden.
>>732167273The original PS3 Demon's Souls.
>>732167273>>732169665>>732171282>putting dark souls 1 that highWhen are people going to stop pretending that it's a good game? It's objectively one of FromSoft's most flawed games, and the only Fromoft game I struggled to enjoy a replay of. It was only good when it first came out due to the novelty, but that novelty wears off very quickly, and every game since then has been an improvement in some way or another. It's genuinely baffling.
>>732173280Dark Souls 1 puts the most effort into its level design. Later entries allowed you to teleport from the start and level design hasn't recovered since. Souls combat isn't that good at any rate so it placing more emphasis on exploration and adventure than on facing Guy with Sword #23 with two phases is a good thing
>>732173280Because even if the second half sucks ass it's got a lot of variety, it's way more fun to do repeated playthroughs of compared to DaS2 or DaS3, it has a boatload of fun glitches, and the levels outside of Izalith are very solid. The only bad map outside of Izalith I can think of is New Londo Ruins and that's only because of the Dickwraiths and ghost spam.
>>732173280Bossslop chart.
>>732167273Nioh 3 retard
>destroys every soulslike
>>732176637what game?
>>732176838Hell is Us. We had a few threads at launch, people said it visually was really great but combat was nothing special and it started to overstay its welcome.
>>732167273I would say Khazan might be good. It's got parrying in it but I know if you use the spear at least then you can just dodge all the time and be fine.
>>732176874Worst game I have played in a while and that says alot since I played too much slop since modern gaming is shit.
>>732176838Hell is Us
>>732167273>sekiro>soulslike>hated itPleb.PLEEEEEEEEEB.
>>732167273how do you feel about shooting things?
>>732167401Good morning sirs
If you like elden ring you need to git out
>>732173280>souls games>sekiro is on the listyeah so you don't know what a souls game is and only care about boss fightsgo play pure action games and you will have a better time, because you clearly don't understand the appeal of souls games and how they are a different genre
>>732167273Just avoid western sloppa and you'll have fun.
>>732177769>lil bro has tripbros filtered outevil, evil man
What a confusing taste.Nioh 3 comes out in like 3 days, that's all I could reliably suggest.
btw lads dont limit yourselves to 3d vidyas. most of the metroids that release now might as well be described as soulslikes and as a bonus you get the cool powerups from progression and fun level design
thymesia was the closest thing to demons souls
>>732167273Armoured Core 6
Steelrising was good. Shame about GreedFall 2
>>732169665Hoping for Absolver 2 with high budget from Sifu and Rematch money
No Rest For The Wicked. It's the next evolution of ARPGs and Soulslikes. Don't listen to the faggots on /v/, these people have no idea.
>>732167273Mortal Shell Enhanced and Demon Souls Remake are worth checking out. You might like Hellpoint, I havent played it yet but its on my list.I cant believe you could tolerate Steel Rising Jank lmao.
>>732167506The Surge is amazing and criminally underrated. SURFE 2 has better combat but The Surge is amazing.
>>732173280Nioh niggers are the tranny vegans of the Souls-like genre
>>732168141Based Another Crabs Treasure is AMAZING
>>732183910I wish the best shell wasn't amogus
>>732183098My hero cafeteria
>>732167273>Hated: Lies of P, SekiroThis genre isn't for you.
>>732167273the surge is the only good memeslop game
>>732173280Actually not a bad list. Good taste, anon.
>>732183680>I havent played it yet but its on my list.If you think Steelrising is jank then Hellpoint's gonna be pretty rough on you because outside of something like Dolmen it's probably the jankiest even if it's a solid game. Just don't play Blue Sun, it's probably the worst Soulslike DLC out there. Unless you play it on NG it's impossible to clear without dropping your world level for the bosses because they didn't test it at all past NG. The final boss of the DLC literally one-shots you while the loading screen is still up and you don't have control and so does the first major optional boss.
>>732173280Move DS1 to "good in retrospect" or you're just contrarian.
>>732183680>DeS Yes.>remakeAbsolutely fucking not.
You've basically played all the notable 3d ones besides Wukong.I know you said no side scrollers but I would consider Ender Lillies and The Last Faith.
>>732167810I have a friend who sucks at parrying that beat it mostly without it, he bought the collector's edition of sekiro and never got far in it.
>>732167273>hated>sekrio>lies of p>liked>DS2>nioh>ERmaybe try another genre, if you need training wheels to beat soulslikes
>>732186559>beat it "mostly" without parry>on the lowest difficulties>with summonsany mentally disabled retard could beat the game that way, but its a waste of time then since lies of P is not a good dialogue/story game
>>732167273how can you possibly like nioh 1 more than 2
hellpoint was fun and cool but i also haven't played many soulslikes besides the fromsoft ones. you should also play bloodborne if you haven't.
>company makes popular games with Souls in the title>company makes completely different game>call other games a SoulslikeThat's not what it means you Sekiro-huffing faggots.
>>732187246I like Hellpoint but I wish the story wasn't ass.
>>732186491I wouldn't call Ender Lillies a Soulslike. It's definitely a Metroidvania, but none of the bosses, gameplay, or punishments really act like a Soulslike. Outside of it having a bonfire and Estus system it's its own thing. Grime is way more of a Soulsike than a Metroidvania by comparison.
>>732186781is dodging supposed to be hard in lies of p? i dodge pretty much everything except bossfights and even then guard regain is really strong. haven't beaten the game yet though.
>>732167273>liked steelrising, lord of the fallen and the surge>hated lies of p and sekiroNice bait, op. Where did you pull this shit from, reddit ?
Are there any other dark souls but gun games besides Immortal Unchained and the Remnant series
I like the Surge and nobody can convince me it's shit.
>>732167273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQnHRmovoggrew up on this game. dads college friend showed this to us when i was younger. gameplay is around like 8-10 hours. the music and game play? fucking bangers. this is the father of dark souls. played it again recently on my big ass TV. just slapped on a gore mod and some texture lighting mods
>>732187947If your mother taught you how to read, you'd see that parrying reliance has been a huge criteria for their rankings.
Does this include KCD since they're jank sims if we're being honest?
a friend said he loved Mortal Shell, short game albeit
>>732167273I haven’t played as many as you, but we have similar taste. Hated lies of P and was underwhelmed by Sekiro. Liked Elden Ring a lot. I would suggest Wuchang. Loved it.
>>732189720Sorry, I'm not playing censored games
>>732167401fpbp
>>732167273>Hated Sekiro and loved SteelrisingI suggest a vasectomy
>>732167506>less parry focusedAnd yet parrying is surprisingly easy and useful in it to the point where it makes you wonder why those silly evasion maneuvers on the right stick even exist.You can parry absolutely everything, even those fucking robot dogs, and the game becomes vastly more enjoyable by focusing on it.
>>732173280>objectively one of FromSoft's most flawed gamesYou genuinely don't know all the shit they churned out over the decades.
>>732167273I've played....6 of these, and I can only say I actually really enjoyed 2 of them. Nioh 2 has by far the best actual combat systems of the bunch, but it's primarily because it's moving away from the usual souls formula for combat. I'd put Remnant 1 and 2 above most of the usual Souls bunch as well because they also move away from normal Souls mechanics...and because I can build around a double barrel shotgun that blasts even bosses back to the stone age.
Last Hero of Nostalgaia which is more or less Dark Souls 1: Abobo's Big Adventure Edition with some cool original mechanics I'd love to see in a bigger budget title.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2162020/Strayed_Lightstrying this right now if it's shit i'm moving to dolmen because every one of these 200 review games have something special
>>732188505>this is the father of dark soulsThey are nothing alike (mostly because you don't move with a stick up your ass in Dark Souls)You faggots are trying to hard to shit that dogshit
>>732188505>this is the father of dark souls?>tfw I fucking hate that game but somehow own three copies of it
>>732190652More dogshit that plays nothing like Dark SoulsQuit shilling this crap, vidya essayist
>>732190715>Deathtrap Dungeon saved my life....
>>732179368I liked it, I liked it a lot. Especially with the options of difficulty modes that let you choose how much pain you want, and as a gauge to test how powerful your build is. The procedural generation is neat, and I got about 300 hours from it just hunting down all the secrets, weapons, mods, and classes. To which, who the fuck hides a class behind information you have to data mine to even find? Gunfire Games, apparently.
>>732190428 Based take. Nioh 2 legitimately blows the doors off most of the Soulslikes purely in terms of combat depth and build variety. The stance system alone gives you triple the options from the jump, and it’s actually responsive. Remnant 2 did the same thing with guns-every shot just feels punchy, and the class synergy stuff is criminally underrated. Soulslikes that do their own thing instead of worshiping DS1 always end up better for it.Now if someone could mash Nioh's combat with Remnant's gunplay and co-op, we'd finally transcend.
>>732191152>Muh comboslop with 5 enemies having 3 attacks each and the sane ki bar
>>732188147>Forces you to use lock onJust for this reason alone you cab tell developers are retarded faggots that suck ass at real Souls games. That would be alone to disqualify it from being called Soulslike
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>>732191152Nioh and Remnant don't have good exploration. I personally hate feudal Japan settings because most Japanese action games are set in that time period.
>>732191565That style swapping gimmick is corny as fuck, and to remove onmyo as a viable build option, pretty much renders the game open-world slop on the decade-old engine. When taken in the context of the replayability of the first, two games -- you either can play them into infinity, or you won't play them much at all -- N3 has flopslop smeared all over it.>maybe at a 90% discount, w/all DLC's
>>732191758It has "we're following whatever is the most popular thing right now" energy to it. It's the kind of thing I'd expect from Flying Wild Hog, where literally every game they've made is like a discount version of another, more popular title at the time.
>>732188610if your mother taught basic cognitives functions, you should know that lies of p can be played without relying on fucking parrying.Also there's an easy mode for shitter like op.
>>732167273If you like Nioh, play Stranger of Paradise.
>>732191868Must have missed it. What are all the other games right now where you switch between stances and forms?
>>732192513Clash: Artifacts of Chaos
>>732191480Nioh 1 to Nioh 2>Wow these movesets are quite shit, low stance has shit damage and heavy stance has mediocre reach, they should nake a single better moveset>Niohggers: NOOOOO THE STANCE SYSTEM IS PERFECTNioh 3>We removed stances from half the weapons because the movesets were shit>Niohggers: WOW based Team Ninja they fixed the shit movesets
>>732167273Migh as well try rise of ronin or nioh 3
>>732167273>hated lies of Pyou have no taste
>>732193167>Souls faggots when confronted with a combat system more complicated than "dodge spam, R1, dodge spam"
>>732190543>i'm moving to dolmenPlease, don't even bother. It's an absolute mess of a game that is beyond poorly balanced, janky, sometimes attacks don't even register they hit properly, enemies do not telegraph moves at all, etc. It's genuinely terrible.
>>732190543got filteredinstead of giving you 2 separate parry buttons, youi have 1 global parry button and need to match color theyre attacking with another button. its so fucking counterintuietive. also every enemy attacks faster than genichiro so yeah here we go dolmen
>>732193294>Dash left or right and attack right after>Complicated
For me, extremely subjectively and would like change if I replayed, it's: Nioh 2 > DS 3 > Sekiro > Rise of the Ronin > Nioh 1 > Elden Ring > Wo Long > Sifu > Fallen Order > Lords of the Fallen > Code Vein > Absolver
>>732193389It had to be done
Before this thread turns into the usual fanbaby shit flinging, I would like to say that Mortal Shell is underrated and Jedi Fallen Order is always overlooked and more enjoyable than most soulslikes I find on Steam.
>>732169665Thymesia is better than Steelrising
Any news on Lords of the Fallen 2? Did Timmy finally give a release date?
>>732167273>loved shittioh >okayed shitolong>hated lies of peakdiagnosis: excessive chromosome count, go back to autoplay gachas
>>732193294>No argument
Try WuChang if you like exploration and decent combat. Xi also promised Phantom Zero but I hardly know much about it.
What's that one soulslike announced from that fired Game Freak employee called?
>>732173280>and the only Fromoft game I struggled to enjoy a replay of.Because you're endlessly replaying games that are fundamentally unsuited for multiple playthroughs. Dark Souls 1 remains uniquely superior at being an engaging you with the level design and making you actually figure out how to progress. The game is almost the only one that knows that the combat in these games is dogshit and must be augmented to be good.
>>732194159Holy fuck they are truly stuck in ps3 era
>>732167273People are meming on this but it's actually just clear that OP likes the RPG aspect of these games more than anything else. The entire list makes sense from that point of view.
>>732194159I give Rise of Ronin too much hate but this looks worse. WTF are they thinking?
>>732167506you should try it, its commonly given away in sales for like 2 dollars>>732188147the surge is one of my top 10 games, maybe top 5... love almost everything about itnever played the second one, but i dont really like what ive seen from it that much, and plot seems poopy in my honest onion>>732190275>robot dog>BOOOOOOONG>fwoosh
>>732167440Yeah I love 36 Chambers
>>732167273>Can you recommend me what to play next based on this preference?It's the most basic bitch /v/edditor taste in games.
Maybe you should try Stellar Blade or MGR to sway your view on parrying. Sekiro's and LoP's parry systems are mid to say the least.
>>732194525>complains about Reddit in a soulslike threadWDYTWA?
Most of those games aren't soulslike. The only game that is actually soulslike is Lords of the Fallen. Everything else really does not fucking get it.
>>732167273Stranger of Paradise is better than anything else Team Ninja is done. It's not soulslike but neither is Nioh.
>>732167507Lies of P is garbage. They used puppets to hide how janky the animation is; which is completely fucked when you want to parry something.
>>732194682Oh god no, that game is terrible.
>Demon's Souls not even on the list
>>732194857nobody cares about beta ds consoleslop
>>732167273is bleak faith or whatever it is called good?
>>732185285Parrying isn't soulslike.
>>732173280Utter dogshit taste. Stop posting your shitty chart and kill yourself
Demon's Souls would be good if they didnt have the stupid world tendency shit
>>732194159>oh no, I have to press buttons! This is too much for me.
man this game looks like shit
it's an abstract kind of rating
