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avowed > skyrim
no questions asked
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>>732172473
God
Look how shit that dithered effect is to make the ice look transparent
Deferred rendering is such a blight on the industry
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>Go in hype for dual wield wands combat
>Dual wield wands is actually boring
Disappointed
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>>732172473
Hmm no.
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why is your screen a blurry mess?
what is going on with the weird dithering effects around the axe?
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>>732172620
yea, in this games if you cant run it on max settings, you gotta be very careful of what you have turned on and what you dont, cause sometimes the "higher" option combine with other settings will make it look terrible. The furry creatures are so dithered they look like someone drew them with an MS paint spray can.
Then I followed a guide and ended up setting some things lower and it looked a lot better
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>>732172473
if the artstyle wasnt so fucking gay I would probably try it I'm so desperate for another elder scrolls type experience. TES6 needs to hurry and come out gonna lap the fuck outta that slop
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>>732173825
Try Tainted Grail
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>>732172473
patriciantv thread
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>>732172473
i liked the first avowed trailer, then it got the downgrade. i still tried it since it was pirate-able. absolute shit.
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>>732173825
Download a bunch of New Lands and quest mods
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>>732176373
I'm going through Meridias Order right now which is pretty cool, if not pretty buggy at times.

Some other mods I've tried though have been pretty bad or really imbalanced in loot. Like Olenveld and Carved Brink
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>>732173825
>I'm so desperate for another elder scrolls type experience
Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon is pretty good.
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>>732173928
>>732177368
Tainted grail is utter garbage, stop recommending it. The lore and story are shit, the atmosphere is shit, the graphics are shit even when compared to original skyrim release, the gameplay is shit, and most importantly it has no modding scene.
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>>732177732
It is still a better Skyrim so if it is garbage it makes you worried about what Bethesda can do with TESVI.
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>>732177732
>the graphics are shit even when compared to original skyrim release
If you want people to take you seriously, don't exaggerate to retarded levels.
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>>732177849
>It is still a better Skyrim
You're delusional if you think that.
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>>732177929
This is what that game looks like 99% of the time.
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>>732177732
It does almost everything better than Skyrim. Especially the gameplay.

The only thing skyrim does better is you have way more options for giant futa cocks in your ass in Skyrim.
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>>732177929
you kidding right ?
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>elder scroll copy
>Not interactible physic, despite being released 20 years after oblivion
>Impossible to interact with npc
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>>732172473
I know this is a bait thread, but it is for most everything, yeah. If Skyrim didn't have mods it would be a genuinely bad game.
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>>732178009
That screenshot is so blurry that I can only assume that you either compressed it or have some fucked up super low settings.
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>>732173928
Overly “dark” to appeal to the underage audience
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i heard its woke
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>>732178009
What YouTube video did you take that from?
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>>732173825
The story and gameplay is just as gay. The only redeemable aspect is terrain traversal.
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>>732178182
Do you mean grim dark edgy because it's the story of a tired king dealing with mistakes he made in the past trying to secure a land for his people?
Or that the art style is too dark?
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>>732178180
It looks like shit regardless of compression. You spend most of the time in the open world and there's this constant heavy fog like it's fucking morrowind from 2002.

>>732178519
The first one I clicked on after querying tainted grail gameplay. I'm not redownloading that trashfire to prove a point.
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ok I tried the Tainted Grail demo for a bit. wtf is this creature.
Also pretty shameless in the skyrim aping. I do NOT want to see that goddamn lockpicking minigame anymore
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>>732179394
Bad fan art of the Beautiful Liliana.
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>>732172473
>1080p
>fsr 3 performance mode
just rob a warehouse ffs. getting a new gpu is that simple
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>>732172473
I really like the grimoire system, I dislike everything else. I want TES VI to replace spellcrafting with grimoire making.
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>>732179032
Gasp, the coastal area has fog!

Here I am in a fucking swamp.
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>>732180521
>morrowind but souIIess
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>>732180521
Are you blind, retarded, or both? This screenshot has the very same heavy fog. You won't find a single place in the open world where it isn't present.
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>fetch a package for me please
>I found the package, whats in it
>oh nothing major just illegal abortion herbs
>those are illegal so I'm confiscating them
>ummm yikes youre denying women their freedoms and supporting a tyrannical regime
>later in the camp the gay fish companion wants to talk
>you could had handled that differently you misogynist incel chud
and the rest of the game is full of bizarre interactions like that
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>>732181080
kek
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>>732179032
>the game looks like this
>okay it's a compressed to shit video but my pretend point still stands
You're a fucking retard.
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>>732177732
Its still better than Avoided
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>>732182087
Did the compression add heavy fog all over the map and introduce this shitty, tacky artstyle that resembles what a 14 year old would think looks "cool", like these comically huge pauldrons?
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>>732172473
>me trying to get 60 fps on a modern game
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>>732177732
as opposed to what, fucking Avowed? paraphile wokeslop with zero world interactivity and no physics? i don't play any of these nu-games but how concentrated are the microplastics in your body to shit on [other nu-game] in an Avowed thread? why is there a thread about this trash with 300 players on Steam after a year
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>>732182235
You don't get to argue about game visuals after you got caught posted a shitty compressed image and pretending it was representative of the game.
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>>732177732
>the graphics are shit
stopped reading there. there is more to vidya than muh grafix. go watch a movie instead.
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>>732182474
It is very much representative of the game.
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>>732182590
>the youtube screenshot I posted because I don't actually play video games is representative of the game
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>>732183037
I did play the game. I'm not gonna redownload and run through the shitty tutorial area again just to take screenshots for your autistic ass.
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>>732177732
Still better than Skyrim
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>>732177732
t. AAA slop enthusiast
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>>732172701
no one cares you fucking troon go back to your containment thread
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>>732177732
>the lore and story are shit, the atmosphere is shit, the graphics, the gameplay is shit
But enough about Skyrim
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>>732177732
This

Fuck Tainted Grail.
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Tainted Grail combat is too fast paced for me
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>>732172473
Nice pixels
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>>732172473
Yeah but how's the not combat? People don't play skyrim for the combat, they play for everything else
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>>732172620
>is to make the ice look transparent
that's supposed to be ice??? lol
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>>732172473
what was the player count again oh...

oh dear
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>>732184662
it's not a mmo anon you don't have to worry about that
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>>732184456
You could always focus on magic if the fast paced flow of parrying, dashing, and slicing is too much for you. I have a very enjoyable first play through being a light on my feet wizard. There's a nice lightning spell in the first act that can start and end most fight if you're sneaky.
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>>732172473
Avowed is boring.
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>>732178519
that looks worse than skyrim
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>>732180521
This screenshot actually made me look up tainted grail and then the nig mumble rap adjacent music in the trailer made me change my mind
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>>732172473
Lol no.
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>>732185321
one of the dumbest complaints about a game of the modern era
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>>732185523
How is this a dumb complaint you subhuman idiot? It shows a clear lack of effort by the developers
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>>732181080
is this real? lmaoo
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>>732185235
The druidic chanting is literally only in the main menu and the opening cutscene when they're reviving Arthur.
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>>732185647
not every game is elder scrolls with that type of physics engine
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>>732181080
>Press F to fart
>Chlamydiana liked that.
What the fuck this game is the best! I'll take three copies and six feet of nerds rope!
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>>732178136
It always was, Skyrim without mods is offensively retarded.
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>>732185321
Skyrim's bloat mechanics will never be good
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>>732182423
avowed owns bitch
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>>732182423
>paraphile wokeslop with zero world interactivity and no physics
you can burn shit and zap shit to power it on. thats more than skyrim ever did.
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>>732186983
>zap shit to power it on
mob of the dead???
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>>732172473
This game came out last year but it looks and feels like it came out a decade ago.
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>>732187464
That's not really a bad thing
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>>732172473
dogshit > skyrim
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>>732172473
Shit bait. But a Skyrim thread is still a Skyrim thread
How did Bethesda fuck up survival mode so bad?
>can’t cook food unless you have salt
>raw food gives no hunger reduction
>no extra carriages + more destination options
>enemies are completely unaffected by weather
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>>732172473
>Skyrim, but gayer
>Better

Sure, if you're a cock smoking la la homo faggot.
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>>732184456
Just get the parry timing upgrade and the game will get way easier
Well the game is piss easy after the beginning
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>>732172473
why do all ue5 textures look like styrofoam
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>>732172473
>dithering for transparency
What is this, a fucking Sega Saturn game?
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>>732177732
Tainted Grail will end up being one of the best games of the 2020s.
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Obsidian despite the jank has always been superior to Beshitsda
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>>732182504
If you can't make a good looking game, you can't make a good game.
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Why do nu-obsidian games look so appalling?
Their games hurt my eyes, I swear I'm not memeing. I could barely stomach OW1 and Avowed? I had to drop it because of eye pain.
I think it's lack of contrast, I can't instantly distinguish one thing from another. Is it NPC or a wall? Is it a wood or chest? There's no visual clarity, you constantly have to strain your eyes. And then you add ever present smear and blur that make it 1000 times worse.
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>>732173825
It’s nothing like TES. It’s linear borderlands.
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What went so terribly, horribly wrong?
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>>732177732
>The lore and story are shit
wrong but everything else is right
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>>732172797
UE5 "cheats" translucency using dithering, alternating the checkerboard on each frame. When you apply temporal anti aliasing over this, it averages out the values over time, creating a transparent effect.
This approach specifically is why all UE5 games look like shit when you have things like heavy foliage and you disable TAA.
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The pillars of eternity world and lore is so boring.
Tyranny lore was peak, Obsidian should do more Tyranny shit.
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>>732194870
also hapens with fsr fucking up particle effects
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>>732194986
>T(y)ranny
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>>732194986
This. Playing as as bad guy, the whole Archons and Kyros shit, Tunon the creepy mofo, Bleden Mark. Turanny absolutely shits on Pillars of Boredom
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>>732172473
lemao Avowed was ridiculed for having worse reactivity than Oblivion then forgotten a week after release.
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>>732173825
Try Enderal instead of Tainted Grail. It's better AND it's free.
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>>732190158
It's almost as if Bethesda suck at making games. Who would've thunk?
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>>732172473
I liked Avowed. But then again I didn't expect to be a Skyrim-like when it comes to interactivity, but more of a first person Pillars game.
Some of the areas were really pretty, but the forested zone was the sloggiest and worst looking area in the game. Even when compared to the whole volcanic section.
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>>732173825
Sounds like it's about time for your first Morrowind playthrough
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>>732195670
>What if the Skyrim intro was 90 minutes long and full of high school philosophy trash?
No.
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>>732174730
He's into shitting on Fallout now. Besides, his 'authenticity' crumbles the microsecond you see his unscripted takes on livestreams. Dude's a genuine midwit.
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>>732178136
80~90% of Skyrim's playerbase statistically plays without mods and have for 15 years.
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>>732185321
>>732185523
When the world ignores me it damages my ego. That's why it's bad.
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>>732177929
Looks like Fallout 76 tbqhwyf
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>>732195670
The whole Arktwend/Nehrim/Enderal line is pretty damn good for huge freebie mods. Would love more but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
Unfortunately I can't say anything about Myar Aranath since I kept getting softlocked in the starting cave.
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I think pillars lore and world is interesting. At least in the first game, I haven't beaten deadfire yet
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>>732184675
>it's not a mmo
Neither is Skyrim
https://steamdb.info/app/489830/charts/
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>>732196519
Same, anon. The world that's been built there with the hollowborn, the Leaden key, and the different gods are really interesting.
Try Deadfire. The ship combat isn't anything special but the expansion of the Huana etc was pretty nice. The environment is a lot more colorful than the more dour places in PoE1.
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Play tainted grail instead of this shit, just look at the pic OP posted. What the fuck kind of eye aids is that?
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>>732189119
I mean "looks like" as in it looks like shit and "feels like" as in it's so forgettable it might as well have been released a decade ago.
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>>732180521
This shit looks like the Oblivion demaster (that's not a good thing).
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>>732172473
Avowed has better combat and that's literally it.
NPCs are lifeless, and bunch of basic game mechanics are just missing. It's a husk of a game. And the world-building isn't even interesting.
And the fact that it could even come "close" to a 15 year old game that isn't even that great to begin with (it has great atmosphere and world-building and some other unique elements that laid some groundwork and became populat in modern RPGs but the combat and gameplay diversity is lacking) is a joke
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>>732172473
did a unicorn shit out that weapon ? wtf are those colours ?
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>>732198065
Obsidian is filled with women and queer redditor types, it's no wonder they make the world look like that, half of them are probably literally autistic, and autists love bright colors and cartoon fantasies where everybody holds hands and kumbayas
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>>732173825
>TES6 needs to hurry and come out gonna lap the fuck outta that slop
>garbage engine 2
oh yeah, cant wait for skyrim 2.0.
stuttery animations, shitty facial expressions and mouth movements, faces and effects that looks like they belong in a 2015 game, making a big deal of functional ladders, landscapes are made to look better by hiding them with fog, same shitty writer, 1080 pixels, the brilliant decision to NOT bring back Jeremy Soule, one of the major attractions of bethesda games because two whores decided he looked wrong at them so they destroyed his career (that was 4 years ago, nothing went to court, his life is ruined).
i genuienly hope that will be the final nail in todds coffin after his skyrim in space game. the old bethesda is full of geriatric developers who cant learn new engines so they just stick to that shit while their buddy/boss todd defends them.
>well well well, name other engine that can do what...
kys for even thinking that
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>>732194635
left was a prerendered lie
sue them
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>>732190158
>can’t cook food unless you have salt
This one is vanilla, and I always found it odd. Skyrim's cooking system is neat but 90% of people don't engage with it solely because of that initial salt requirement, unironically.
>raw food gives no hunger reduction
Based, fuck raw meat. That should change if you become a Namira cannibal for.
>no extra carriages + more destination options
I don't mind this one either, forces you to plan your journeys and make better use of horses, boats and the special Heartfire carriage.
>enemies are completely unaffected by weather
Are they affected by Frostfall/Sunhelm? Never thought nor expected them to be.
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>>732198864
>because two whores decided he looked wrong at them so they destroyed his career
You're a retard that somehow has no idea about the real reason Soule was blacklisted from the issue. Hint: had nothing to do with the allegations and everything to do with him being a scamming retard.
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>>732172473
>no single interconnected world, just bunch of small maps
>retarded story
>shit quest design
>0 enemy variety
>runs like shit

lol
also why even make it on unreal 5 if you not gonna make it open world?
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>>732199452
this has nothing to do with the northener you contrarian loser
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>>732183251
>I did play the game. I'm not gonna redownload and run through the shitty tutorial
Or you could just load a save.
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>>732199817
It had everything to do with the Northener. Little known fact people forget about: the TES6 trailer came out a year *before* the allegations and Soule was already not involved in the project, with Todd stating the trailer music was composed by the final composer
Soule fucked up with his distribution company in 2014 then with the Kickstarter scam in 2016/7. A mix between those and Bethesda's usual stupidity made them believe resident composer Zur could handle TES6. Soule had one foot outside the industry by the time the allegations came, then 2020's global pandemic hit and he disappeared off the face of the earth due to depression (as said by an ex of his who defended him in a r*ddit AMA).

So no, Soule not being TES6's composer had been decided for a long while before being MeToo'd. He had spent half a decade unintentionally burning bridges.
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>>732194364
They hire only troon/dyke/libtard "artists"
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>>732172473
It doesn't need an answer for how shit of a game it is.
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>>732195859
Now that begs the question, is it because they primarily play on console, or because they don't have the basic knowledge on how to install the mods?
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>>732202020
Yes.
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>>732173825
What weather mod is that? I've never seen the sky look like that (gold colors next to the mountains)
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>>732202247
Why are you like this?
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>>732172473
Man, modern games are so fucking ugly Why does your weapon look like a plastic toy?
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>>732172473
Playing elden ring first person rn with a few other mods and its better than both games so /thread
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>>732203595
>Roll Souls III: Ubisoft Edition
lol
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>>732172473
The games are not even in the same genre and I am tired of bethesda millenial drones yelling SKYRIIIIIMMM MY ASS at every first person rpg.
Parcouring was so fun in Avowed I wish they go even more ballsdeep into that direction in a sequel. Give me double jump spells, floating magic, wall run potions etc.
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The minute you try to interact with Avowed's world the illusion falls apart.
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>>732186983
They literally had to nerf the elemental status afliction on your own party because it spreading meant it was a death note when only 1 guy go shocked.
The retarded >"uuuuhm no enviornmntal impact cheehee" talking point really outs the assmadgald donators that never played a videogame.
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>>732185321
>>732185523
>>732185647
???
This adds literally nothing but bloat and make the game run worse if you spam this type of shit all over the map.
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>>732202294
Because it's both. Most people who bought the game bought it on console multiple times and most modern PC gamers are console refugees who are terrified of tinkering
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>>732204054
>this adds literally nothing
You're a soulless husk of a man.
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>>732204419
Yeah it doesn't for me. Also your webm is really fucking crunchy. Loved that spot as my first out of bounds encounter but you seem a bit slow on the climbing. Yo can go way faster once you know the type of edges that are grabbable.
>parcour unlocking secret 3rd way to get into the quest location
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>>732204054
It adds everything.
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>>732202252
That other person is just retarded, those are far fog/distant cloud meshes picking up the buggy ambient sky scattering light and being overbright, probably due to outdated ENB.
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>>732196713
The pillars world has been lame and gay since the first game. They just need to scrap it and try agian.
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We will still get a second game. Checkmate chuds!
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>>732194364
I don't know about Avowed, but Outer Worlds 1 released with chromatic aberration turned on by default with no option to turn it off without resorting to UE config tweaks or fan-made fixes. Chromatic aberration is what makes the game look like picrel, and many people reported they feel their eyes to strain too much, causing nausea or headaches for no reason. Eventually, after multiple complaints everywhere, the devs patched in an option to turn it off in the game itself with a very shit-eating message that some players might find this effect uncomfortable and might need to turn it off. I sure love when my expensive GPU's resources are used to emulate flaws of photo- and videography that normal people try to remove whenever possible.
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>>732172473
Never played it, never will
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>>732172473
Obsidian games are so boring. I feel like yawning just thinking about them. Every time they're marketed they just talk about what they won't do or have so the expectations are lowered and every time it's the most forgettable RPG possible. Maybe they should take a break for a few years, come up with better ideas, and with recharged energy try again. I don't think this is working out..
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>>732184342
Avowed shill
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>>732207528
The only decent dev they have is sawyer and even he is mainly a mechanics guy and kind of sucks at writing. I liked BG1 and loved BG2 but Pillars is so dull i struggle to even get through it and it's the exact kind of game i tend to like. They expect people to be invested when there's pretty much no decent narrative hook in either game, the characters are kind of shit, and the soundtrack sucks. Also the load times really didn't help.
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Just started playing Pillars of Eternity and what the fuck is this "can only be used during combat" horseshit? This severely limits any precombat actions for reasons I don't know why.
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>>732208412
The narrative hook is the mystery behind your newfound powers and how it connects to the epidemic of Hollowborn babies.
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>>732173825
Avowed is terrible and you should be happy for missing it, Tainted Grail like the other Anon said is infinitely better even if the music doesn't really match the Arthurian legends.
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>obvious low effort bait thread
>150+ replies
You retards just can't help it, can you?
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>>732185797
he called it mumble rap adjacent dude, he isn't arguing in good faith
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>>732185523
yes, as we continue on in gaining progress with our technology, we should remove features
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>>732173928
NTA but no third person mode = no play
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>>732195670
Seconding this. Enderal was fantastic. You can even use a lot of your favourite Skyrim mods with it.
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>>732208668
Try actually saying what is so good about the game you sell without OTHER THING SHIT REEEEEEEE marketing.
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>>732206727
same thing with screen based motion blur and lens flare bullshit, imperfections added as features to make it so you can't see properly
>>732209261
you aren't here to learn about the game so i won't bother
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>>732208731
people don't report enough on gay shit like this but what can you do when simply mentioning it can get you banned?
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>>732209360
Reporting does jack shit, mods have been compromised for over a decade now.
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>>732209427
that's also true i suppose, there's also the fact that some people are able to just switch their IP's while some people have to literally call their provider to get one that isn't fucking shared
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>>732208668
>solid turd better than liquid poop, you must try it!
Thanks but no thanks.
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>>732203856
Not try climbing stairs in Skyrim
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>>732209614
Why are you in the thread then? Lol, what a retard, coming into a thread, of games he thinks are shit, just to make an extremely low quality post.
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>>732208574
>Lariantard is mad he can't play buffmeta with 20 buffs
LOL
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>>732209676
This is a Skyrim thread, tho.
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>>732208630
>The narrative hook is the mystery behind your newfound powers and how it connects to the epidemic of Hollowborn babies.
You don't even find out about the hollowborn shit at the very start. The "narrative hook" is "some wizard guy did a ceremony that killed 2 random mooks you don't care about and now you can see ghosts or something" wow. amazing. Compare that to BG1 where its
"assassins are hunting you for some reason, you adoptive father gets killed by a cool badass guy and his cronies now you need to track them down and figure out why"
or BG2 where it's "an evil wizard kidnapped and tortured you and your friends, killing one of them, now he's kidnapped your sister so you need to track her down and rescue her"

PoE's writing is just boring and bland at all levels.
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>>732209689
>have to fight the RtwP mechanic because I just want to drink a fucking potion.
>whatever the fuck this "multiple non-weapon bonus effects don't stack shit" is
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAWYER
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>>732209815
The very fucking first town you literally enter is them hanging people in a gigantic tree for the Hollowborn shit
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>>732209952
But what if you miss that?
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>zero modding community
>better than the most modded open world RPG of all time
Lmao. If I can't make a slut who gets fucked all across the open world, then I shan't be playing it
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>>732210073
>what if you miss the opening cutscene and the one thing everyone is talking about
wat
READ NIGGA READ
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>>732194635
Nothing, the one on the left is generic shit, the one on the right reflect PoE aesthetics and the game is gorgeous to look at.
I'm sure Avowed would have been a resounding success if it had an actual open world, which people expected. That is the actual issue. Obsidian wants to make focused, balanced RPGs with the progression of a BG game and people want New Vegas 2
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2011 vs 2025
No questions asked.
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Is there any reason to play Oldrim over Special Edition at this point?
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I think this game would've benefited greatly by being more aware with the trend shift in gaming where players really want more grit and babes in their games. Avowed would've garnered a very loyal fanbase if it played like Dark Messiah, even down to the nudity and waifubait.
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>>732210306
The only one reason is mod compatibility.
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>>732210163
Open world sucks. I think they were correct in partitioning the map in smaller detail dense areas instead.
That game would be 9/10 if that was the actual issue with it.
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Skyrim doesn't expect anything of you and allows you to soak in it's world and atmosphere, no questions asked. Other open world slopRPGs cannot understand this fundamental aspect. This isn't even taking into account the plethora of mods Skyrim has. It is unmatched
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>>732184587
>People don't play skyrim for the combat, they play for everything else
The what?
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>>732210313
Avowed had terrible marketing. It was doomed into getting poor reception before it shipped, no matter how good or bad it actually is (and it isn't good).
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I am in fact going to reinstall Skyrim when I get home and waste an entire evening getting my own hand picked mod list to function with minimal crashing while I make it pure coomer kino. Camera Avowed say the same? Me thinks not.
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>>732210449
No, the game is objectively good. The writing of some dialogues is cringe inducing, especially early on. Character talks in a very 21st century California way which undermines a lot of the efforts to create a setting, but the game itself has little wrong with it except it could maybe use more enemies, crossbows and cipher class spells.

But Avowed and the Outer Worlds are not successful because they aren't in a bloated open world with nothing in it like Fallout 4 and Skyrim which is what people want.
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>>732209952
And at that point there's been no link made between your newfound powers and that stuff but that's beside the point. The point is that there's virtually no personal stakes in it for your character. Now if your character had had a hollowborn child or something and was looking for a cure it would be more interesting. But you're just a random guy who now has ghost vision powers and shit. Again, it's just dry and bland plot with dry and bland characters in a dry and bland setting because modern cucked leftoids seem genuinely incapable of making anything legitimately cool and interesting.
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>>732210548
Even if it did have poor marketing (I don't think it did, it was shown periodically by Xbox), my point still stands. There is a surprisingly lack of grit and explicit features in American-made RPGs nowadays, even if they have the M+rating. Most of that are coming from Euro RPGs inspired by the CLASSIC American RPGs.
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Do you need a strong GPU for modern Skyrim graphics mods or is it still relatively low end considering its 14 years old?
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>>732210752
The personal stake is your curse that strings you along a series of unfortunate events where you either play hero, villain or self-serving.
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>>732210849
It runs like a dream at 1440 on my 4070 using Skyland AIO & some nice ENBs.
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>>732210665
>but the game itself has little wrong with it
>basically no reactivity
>extremely limited number of skills
>gear level system is rancid dogshit
>dogshit plot
>dogshit characters
>ugly color grading
>ugly character models, you're literally required to make your character ugly.
>forgettable soundtrack
>californoid storytelling full of shitty girlbosses.
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Does Avowed have a better soundtrack than Skyrim?
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>>732211125
>>basically no reactivity
Wrong
>>extremely limited number of skills
Wrong
>>gear level system is rancid dogshit
Wrong
>>dogshit plot
Wrong
>>dogshit characters
Wrong
>>ugly color grading
Wrong
>>ugly character models, you're literally required to make your character ugly.
Wrong
>>forgettable soundtrack
Wrong
Post playtime
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>>732210901
That's not a personal stake dipshit you're basically just saying "well a story happens and you make choices!"

The fact that it "strings you along a series of unfortunate events" is the problem. The character should have a definite personal goal and the events that occur should come as a result of that character pursuing that goal. Imagine if in the beginning of lord of the rings Gandalf was just like "hey Frodo can you take this ring to Rivendell or something? there's no real urgency to it and there's nobody hunting you but if you could do that for me that would be great"
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>>732211504
Then it's the moral imperative.
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https://youtu.be/W3QkO8fy3tg

anyone else remember the first avowed trailer? game looked NOTHING like what it ended up being. not a single fruity ffaggy thing in this trailer.
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>>732211410
i'm right on all of those points. I beat the game. I pirated obviously as I'm not about to give nuObsidian any of my money. You're just a faggot who has no taste.
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>>732211556
and that makes for a boring story. Even BG3 had a better hook with you getting infected by mindflayer parasites so now you need to look for a way to get them out.
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>>732211351
The OST is one of the weaker parts of the game. It's barely there but also not annoying. Could be worse but not a notable trait about it.
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>>732211351
not even close
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>>732211630
Bullshit
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>>732211924
>Bullshit
keep coping faggot.
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>>732211351
The Pillars soundtrack gets annoying really fast for me. The only track that I remember that I liked was the main menu theme which was technically the main theme of the franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9j8RK4keJM
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>>732212045
If i was a game director and a composer turned this shit in as a battle theme I'd fire him on the spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0Ptd31bPk
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>>732208731
>skyrim players are this sensitive about their shitty game
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>>732212143
>fire him on the spot
That's gonna burn some bridges.
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>>732209294
Yeah, I turn off everything I can from that cursed list of motion blur / chromatic aberration / lens flare / film grain, I definitely don't need an imitation of all possible camera-related flaws straining my system while also making the image worse.
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>>732211351
It's not even close. They didn't even completely rehire Justin Bell, they hired a literal who. Compared to Soule who composed a legacy soundtrack for the Elder Scrolls that encapsulates the entire series since Morrowind.
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>>732212143
i actually like it
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>>732212045
I remember this banger from deadfire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4VsPAZUMkw&list=RDR4VsPAZUMkw&start_radio=1
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>>732212571
I mean no matter how dogshit something is, someone out there with no standards will like it.
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>>732195895
Based Gaben
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>>732212687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlg_QFO6YY
that's because they're just real folk songs that they didn't write themselves.
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>>732212519
>won't be in VI
Todd has alot of answer for.
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Jeremy Soule soundtracks aren't THAT good desu. Very overrated
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>>732212965
>implying there will be a TES VI
Anon, it's time to let go. It has been 15 years already.
Within that time frame we have gone from Daggerfall to Skyrim.
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>>732213081
Naganuma is an example of an overrated composer. Soule is rated just exactly as he is.
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>>Hey let's make skyrim in 2025!
>great idea!
>so what will we improve?
>>let's improve nothing and keep the combat the same dogshit m1 spam but we add some abilities on cooldown that you also just mash on cooldown and pretend it's a "combat system"
>umm okay but it's 2025 couldn't you add actual first person combat
>>and then we make all the writing into 2025 writing!
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Haven't played Skyrim innacuppa years. How has the modding scene changed with the influx of AI? Anything different or is the community more of the same?
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>>732172473
I'm not sure how to put it into words properly, but one of the worst things in Skyrim is how it feels stilted and limited, you often run into things that really make it feel like you're playing a game (and an underwhelming one) without a veil of mystery to cover it up and help you immerse.
Dumb NPCs, your actions either not doing much or not doing anything at all, repetitive animations, dull combat, essential NPCs, houses you can't enter, small cities, etc. etc. Those are what really kill Skyrim for me, it's perfectly understandable and "unfair" to criticise but it has you feeling like you're JUST playing a game and not doing anything interesting. It's a similar feeling to how it feels to play an MMO, stilted and disconnected.
Playing Avowed is like this but worse, it's like a budget version of Skyrim but with its limitations and clumsiness all the more evident, and to make things worse the game is just so fucking ugly. I understand that being a freak is kind of the point, it's a narrative thing or whatever, but it just takes you even more out of it having this ugly shit presented to you paired with the annoying and bad writing while you're waiting to get back to playing the game that just doesn't really have anything going for it and doesn't justify its semi-open nature when the world isn't worth exploring or traversing through.
I'm not sure if I'm particularly getting my point across here, but the best way I can sum it up is that it feels awkward, shallow, and uncomfortable to play and look at. The best way I can put it is that the game truly embodies the concept of a boring waste of time videogame, it's as if someone took every other game in the genre and learned all the wrong lessons from them, creating the ultimate mediocre product that offers nothing interesting and is just such an utter unappealing drag to engage with.
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>>732212519
Justin Bell is shit too.

>>732213081
Not the guy you're replying too but come on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejafLR6jb0g
the entire GW1 soundtrack is pure sex.
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>>732213329
I never said Justin Bell is highly rated, just that he is the original composer for both Pillars game and other Obsidian games. His absence from their first foray into a cross-genre game with a significantly higher budget and scope is unfortunate and odd.
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>>732213478
it's not that unfortunate. They replaced one composer of generic forgettable soundtracks with another. The only unfortunate thing is that they didn't replace him with an actual good composer.
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>>732172473
Having better combat than Skyrim isn’t an achievement and will not be enough to make me buy your game for $70.
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>>732184342
>calls out skyrim
>tries to prohibit discussing skyrim
You can't contain what you... "discontained".
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>>732172473
I am so tired of hateslop threads on here and other social media.
If you want to talk about Skyrim then just make a normal thread. If you want to talk about Avowed then you can do that too.
We can talk about the very wide and broad genre of first person rpgs without yelling how one thing is the worst thing of all time.
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>>732182423
>zero world interactivity
it has more world interactivity in the first two levels than skyrim does in the entire game lol
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>>732210849
I get 60fps at 1080p on a 2080 with rudy and 2k textures on pretty much anything except in riften
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>>732182235
>like these comically huge pauldrons?
comically huge pauldrons always look cool
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>>732212143
what is horrendously bad about this
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>>732172473
is this game done yet or are they working on a dlc
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>>732214616
With the ps5 release they lower the price and add a big patch that brings in way more playable races, more character creation options, new game plus with double the level cap(60). Also new weapons including a 2handed staff and some other stuff.
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>>732172473
Avowed couldn't even hold a candle to Oblivion, a 20 year old game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhL1NZugsBk
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>>732209360
>REEE he doesnt like skyrim, this cant be... JANNIES HELP
where do you morons come from
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>>732213215
They didnt set out to make skyrim, they set out to make a good game instead :)

Also the combat is a million times better than shitrim could ever hope to be.
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>>732177147
Is Olenveld bad? I was actually going to try that one.
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>>732172473
when did gayme developers stopped caring about immersion in a game?
I'm so fucking tired of hudslop, it's like the devs don't even think if a feature is needed or not, they just implement it because other game have it
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>>732185523
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>>732210131
It's gotta be bait. No one can be that stupid.
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>>732214616
>are they working on a dlc
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Skyrim is the greatest porn game ever made so it wins on that alone
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>>732172473
This image physically hurts to look at. It looks like watching a 3D movie without the glasses. I hate modern graphics so much.
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>>732215704
They are
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>>732185321
Did you really just say Bethesda's physics is based? The same Bethesda physics that make all the items on a table seizure out or go flying the moment you move a single plate or cup on it? You serious bro?
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>>732216398
it could still become the first game project Microsoft ever cancels. oh wait.
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>>732216423
physics with bugs > no physics
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>>732216453
the games already out?
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>>732216529
MS have been canceling projects. "Avowed DLC" is begging for a cancelation, might as well be silent-canceled where they just never talk about it again until someone asks several years from now and they finally confirm it's dead.
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>>732172473
Not even close.

But you obviously need to be told what to do, where to go. You lack imagination to create your own fun.
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>>732216398
Have they said so somewhere? I have seen nothing about DLC other than to "expect a surprise" on the one year anniversary.
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>>732210542
Everything else, keep up.
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>>732219035
theres nothing else but the combat
skyrim has no rpg mechanics (avvowed does, and it allows for multiple playstyles)
skyrims world is boring and full of copied content (avoweds world is entirely handcrafted and you never get the feeling of repetition)
Skyrims story doesnt exist (avoweds story is an interesting mystery that is also reflected in the environment design)
Skyrim gear is randomly generated bullshit (Every piece of gear in avowed is unique)

so really... skyrim just has nothing... -_-;



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