>>732183721
what precisely makes you think valve can make a playable video game in the current year 2006+20? they are not a video game company, they are a hosting service than charges people 30% to host text on steam.

>>732183721
buy an ad.

>>732184101
This is a fan-made mod.
>>732184143
>buy an ad
>for a free mod for a free game

A rocket launcher that does 130 damage is FUCKING STUPID

>>732184101
Is this a bot loosely responding to the context of the thread without actually knowing what the thread is talking about?

It's so fucking funny how the classes that are the most busted in vanilla tf2 (scout, soldier, demo) are even more busted here, while the weakest classes are even worse.

>>732184215
it's also impossible to hit anything with it unless it's point blank or the enemy noves in a straight line for like 10 seconds straight so it's not that bad

>>732184215
its fuckin awesome. fuck scouts. fuck snipers

just give me gunboats on demo valve pls

Derby Cane is so much better than Umbrella it's unreal

>>732185181
I love seeing heavies run at mach 3, it's so damn fun

I like that the weapons in TF2C are actually weapons, and not all reskins of stock with random stat changes or gimmicks.

>>732183721
i ignore all the new guns and just play heavy with minigun and kill everyone

>>732183721
Retard

>>732183721
Have they fixed the serverblight issue yet?

>>732184292
>muh bots
for your next trick start screaming about russia

>>732193161
try talking about team fortress 2 classified you fucking retard

Tf2 SFM horrorfic as a genre is comedy gold
Goofy distorted model face scout ahhhhh gabeman save me!!!!

are you telling me someone can't just make custom maps in retail TF2 that has 4 teams? you've got warioware and all kinds of random shit, someone can't make you change colors?

>>732195250
most tf2 players can't handle there being more than 2 colors

>>732184170
>for a free mod for a free game
The mod still needs more players to be popular

Holy shit how the fuck is it possible that every single new weapon is fucking aids to play against.
Also fuck syphilis, fucking retarded medics dropping the uber shield thing blocking cap right at the fucking end...

>>732195250
Someone made "6fort" once with vscript but it's turbo jank. The two teams are hardcoded into the game

>>732195379
and fuck spies fucking FUCK

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All of you just suck at the game and then blame the weapons for your own incompetence

Hey trannies that are constantly shilling this piece of shit garbage, your mod is about as novel and mediocre as all that Goldrush faggotry was.

>>732195916
fax
99% of the servers for this dogshit mod are filled with screaming passive aggressive retarded ass loser trannies and furfags.

Rank them:
Emesis Blue
Serverblight
Dont Join Team Red

>>732196176 fuck right off faggot

>>732196176
Emesis blue is the only kinda watchable one of these lol

>>732196262
but anon
what if respawn machine
does scary????!!!

I miss Artifact anon

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>mod about staying true to the 2007 design before hat and loadout faggotry
>adds custom weapons, game modes and even goes as far as adding yellow and green merc teams
Why even bother making a different TF2? Just put all that custom shit on your own servers inside the main game or something.

>>732183721
VIP escort was a trash objective type that was cut for good reason
Why do modders keep trying to make it a thing lol

>>732196514
>Atrifact fag left
NO
FUCK

>>732196548
because you can't have extra teams with the way tf2 is coded

>>732183721
Why does the flame thrower feel like shit?

Idk why, but classified makes me hit enemies more than vanilla TF2
Btw I can't spray even if I'm setting correctly

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>check the achievements for fun
>Die while killing someone with the anchor
>Find a tranny dev to dom (achievement doesn't get shared like the gibus)
>Go do something on this one map nobody play on

And i remember when people complained when Medic achievements were made public

>>732197997
Old flame system and it seems there a delay between airblast and fire longer than in current tf2, it fuck my muscle memory

>>732195456
Yeah who would have tought that giving demoman a spammable sticky who activate by itself wouldn't get spammed. Or giving soldier the direct hit without the radius penalty would be balanced

The only weapon who still feel fair is the brick (so just a bleedless guillotine), heavy cannon, and the rejuvinator. The cyclops ask some skill but it get spammed so much from demoman who just hold the button

Anti-aircraft canon isn't that fun

RPG is fun and balanced
Pyro's boomstick should have more knockback

>>732200016
>try to use it as detonator jump alternative
>It never let you fly high enough to reach anything

Honestly it just good as anti Pyro weapon

>>732196639
I enjoy the VIP race with both teams having one. When I was playing before the steam release they only had one life and that was pretty ridiculous.

That being said, it's beautiful to play a harvest without mini sentries or the dead ringer. Before everyone gets bored I'm making sure to get at least a few months of game in

>>732197997
The flare gun is also so fucking slow, i can never hit anything, i feel like using the pomson all over again

>>732183721
I love how the sandvich works in this mod but that's about all I can say for it.

>>732195456
>Toxotranny
>Retarded post
Wow, what a shock.

>>732200313
How? It's so fucking annoying to eat it multiple time because it refuse to heal you for 150 HP but 125 so you need atleast 3 bites to get back to full health

Yeah sure let me go with 250 HP, and zero good defensive weapon against a direct hit soldier and demoman

>>732200456
It's because it doesn't have a cooldown anymore unless you throw it. You can just keep eating it back to full health. Obviously the OG sandvich will always be better than any other but that was nerfed long ago.

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I like new hitsound
It sounds like a punch

Did they change the netcode for TF2C?

>>732200683
It take longer to heal and since most maps are build like dustbowl in size let you be caught eating so many time.

Atleast the current sandwich let you refill it with healthpack. I would be ok with TF2C sandwich if it would heal you for 150 so you have to eat it twice to full heal

>>732201106
>It take longer to heal and since most maps are build like dustbowl in size let you be caught eating so many time.
You should not be eating in the first place if you're in a spot where it isn't safe to do so.

>>732200792
Yes. They had to move from the Multiplayer 2013 SDK to proper up to date TF2.

>>732201674
is it better or the same as regular tf2?

>>732184384
Heavy is the biggest winner of TF2C with how he gets the best changes of modern TF2 but none of the nerfs. He doesn't even need a medic to melt your whole ass team over and over again

>>732200456
If you need to heal more than 240hp at a time as heavy then you are experiencing a consistent skill issue

>>732201287
Nowhere is safe to eat since most maps are build to be either like dustbowl where spam reach you everywhere or hydro where some Pyro will find you eating anywhere

I litteraly just got caught in a game of domination in the side of my team eating because a lost Pyro was w+m1

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>minigun
>sandvich
>fist
Yep, it's heaving time

>>732201790
It kinda like heavy has no movement and can only rely on his health so he need to heal a lot without a Medic retard

This is why vanilla have the second banana

nice

>Get full charge with the Harvester.
>Set a few guys on fire and run away.
>Enemy Pyro takes the bait and chases after me.
>Immediately come back around a corner and insta-kill him before he can react.
>Shotgun-jump back to teammates to begin the cycle again.
God I love this fucking scythe.

>>732202450
is Harvester that good?
Maybe I'm just bad

>>732202225
Your mindset is flawed and leads to very low gamers killed per second. As the slowest character in the game, Heavy's movement is the MOST important as a single jumped gap or cut corner can be the difference between you taking the high ground or getting caught with your pants down. A heavy in optimal position is unbeatable which is why GRU makes compfags seethe

>>732202652
It gives you health regen while its meter charges, and its crit swing will give you full overheal regardless of health (provided you actually kill with the crit swing itself). It's best used when attacking multiple enemies to fill up the meter faster from one ambush, and then hiding (or flanking) somewhere to assassinate anything that isn't a Soldier or Heavy before repeating the cycle.
It also has the most silent taunt kill in the game, which gives the health boost regardless of the meter.

>>732202652
The scythe is stupidly broken
You can pick someone trying to flank, kill him and pull out the scythe to heal half your health

And after 2 kills (because burning bodies fill the meter up to half) you have a free melee Crit who overheal you

>>732197997
it feels stronger now upclose. like faster firerate probably due to afterburn happening at the same time now

>>732203092
maybe but the exhaust on death ruins my suicide afterburns that pickoff cocky pushes

>>732202450
Pyro should have the FaN in vanilla TF2

>>732203092
It's a melee weapon. To reap its main benefit, you have to stand around doing nothing.

>>732197997
They ditch the old particle and use the modern one

>>732197997
Because it's still using post Jungle Inferno's version.

>>732203092
TF2C pyro already has fuck you DPS that melts heavies so playing hide and seek with the scythe is a waste of time unless your hiding in a flank route

>>732193161
yep, definitely a bot

>>732200683
>It's because it doesn't have a cooldown anymore unless you throw it.
so does the recharge bar on the HUD lie to me or what

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i dont care about game balance if it means i get to play vanilla tf2, have fun with people in alltalk voice chat and have sprays enabled

How to use spray?
It's T on default, right? I can't use that

>cyclops dynamite wombo combo
Demo is a lot of fun

>>732184215
a rocket launcher that does 130 damage with full splash is fucking stupid
scout having the nailgun is fucking obnoxious
sniper having a six shot rifle that can no scope headshot is fucking retarded
pyro having an instakill crit melee that doesn't require you to be on fire but takes 40 years to charge is fucking lame
spy having a tranq pistol that can perpetually slow you is fucking annoying
heavy having a version of the kgb that stores its crits so he can kritzkrieg himself at will is fucking cancer
medic having an AOE ubercharge is fucking overpowered
demoman having a primary that is just the loose cannon without donks is fucking boring
engineer having no unlocks other than a slightly modified pistol is fucking sad

>>732209152
the coilgun letting engineer rocketjump opens up alot of sentry spots that aren't viable in normal TF2. Its probably the most interesting unlock in the mod once you learn it

>>732209152
>Every class is OP
sounds kino to me

>>732209152
>a rocket launcher that does 130 damage with full splash is fucking stupid
Best used for firing over cover, followed-up with the shotgun, or to get max height with the anchor easily.
>scout having the nailgun is fucking obnoxious
Try using it yourself, it's fun.
>sniper having a six shot rifle that can no scope headshot is fucking retarded
You still have to zoom in with right-click, fucko.
>pyro having an instakill crit melee that doesn't require you to be on fire but takes 40 years to charge is fucking lame
It does require that, and try setting multiple people on fire at a time.
>spy having a tranq pistol that can perpetually slow you is fucking annoying
Try using it yourself, it's fun.
>heavy having a version of the kgb that stores its crits so he can kritzkrieg himself at will is fucking cancer
Try using it yourself, it's fun
>medic having an AOE ubercharge is fucking overpowered
I know, right? You can also use the Ubersyringe to extend its duration without having your medigun out.
>demoman having a primary that is just the loose cannon without donks is fucking boring
Use with the Dynamite for that effect. It's best used with stock stickies to recreate the Scottish Resistance, or stopping enemy demomen spamming the Mine Layer.
>engineer having no unlocks other than a slightly modified pistol is fucking sad
Valid point. He needs a double-barrel shotgun, revolver, or something. If they're going off of scrapped TF2 concepts, I hope they make a proper Spy Vs. Engineer update to give more options to Spy, too.

>>732209719
The jump pad for Engi is kind of neat so I’m surprised they stopped there with custom buildings.

>>732209852
Jump pads are busted as shit and make double engineer an unstoppable duo but its ok since engineer gets fucked by pretty much every new weapon in the mod

>>732209987
>Play on cp_steel after the Fight or Flight update.
>An engineer sneaked through B and placed a jump pad to E.
>We win because a heavy was able to get on the point while the engie also had a level 3 sentry.
I love this fucking mod.

>>732185181
I don't get it, how is a speed boost comparable to minicrits?

>they removed scout healing-speed on medic
how the fuck am i supposed to be a pocket scout now???

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>>732202652
It's alright.

>>732206913
TF2C Heavy also has fuck you DPS that shreds Pyros and everyone else to bits. God I love it VALVE WHY CAN'T HEAVY FUCK THIS HARD IN NORMAL TF2 I WOULD NEVER PLAY ANOTHER CLASS

>>732208386
how the fuck do i make voice input work in tf2
it's like there's a volume gate and it only sends my voice a second after i start talking so every sentence gets cut off, i have tried literally every cvar and windows setting and nothing changes

I think Ive seen a few cheaters and vac banned players already. Besides that I do like the spy tranq and how hes a bit more dangerous now.

>>732209152
i appreciate you using 9 different adjectives anon

>>732213010
There are absolutely both of those already, server I was on the other day had a Scout with triple second place's score and 6 dominations claiming in voice that he was actually the super secret alt of some pro player but suddenly he started playing like shit when people questioned him. At least until he went Sniper and took advantage of that absolutely fucking stupid 6 shot rifle why the FUCK is that a thing CHRIST

>>732183721
Where is the custom weapon server?

>>732213151
with me I kept spectating some snipers and with how the bullet now trails, I kept seeing the bullets shoot off in other directions despite no where near the center of the aimed cursor.

>>732183721
The best thing about TF2C is that it runs better and removes all the cancer weapons:
No Wrangler
No Vaccinator
No Deadringer
No Shields
No Troldiers
No Modern Airblast
No Scorch Shot
No Short Circuit
No Kunai

TF2C is the version to play to get away from all the crap

>>732212901
check steam settings

>>732214097
> no demoknight
This mod sucks

>>732184101
Word word hi test cookie bog soda bot valve TF2 Half Life Epic green red thirty Walmart YouTube example

>>732209719
>Try using it yourself, it's fun.
it's not fun because it's shit at killing people and ignores the thing that made scout fun in the first place. scout is fun because while he's fast and easily able to run away from people, he can't actually kill anyone by doing this. In order to kill people on scout, you need to put yourself at risk by getting up in their face and blasting them. That's why he's fun. If he was meant to just kite people forever and never put himself in danger while chipping away at them, he'd be a badly designed class(see: most other scout archetypes in shooters).
This is why the nailgun never made it into the finished game. Making scout's primary a mid range chip damage machine destroys everything that made him fun to fight against and fun to play. It's not a powerful weapon: nailgun scouts hardly kill anyone. It deals just enough damage that you can't ignore it and have to move into cover to avoid dying, but not enough to kill anyone who has a reaction time of less than 5 seconds. You'll never kill the scout either, though, since he never puts himself in danger to do this.
Scout is fun to play because it's all about choosing when to risk it all to run in and get a kill. Scout is fun to play against because however annoying he's being, you know for a fact that at some point he'll have to commit and if you're ready for him you can catch him and flatten him instantly. Even a medic can beat a scout who fucks up.
Nailgun scouts don't do any of that. They sit at mid range, peppering you until your health gets low enough for you to walk away and get healing. They won't chase you, because they have no close range burst and you'll kill them. You won't chase them, because you'll never catch them. They just hover around irritating people while accomplishing nothing. The only thing that'll get rid of them is a scattergun scout, who will effortlessly shit on them if they have even passable aim.

>>732196548
This. A friend shilled it to me as “tf2 classic” essentially but all the new weapons and balance changes sound like cancer
I don’t want to give up my tomislav and fish just to have them swapped with other more annoying stuff

>>732214724
>mid range
See, that's why you're not getting kills, you're treating it like it's the SMG, some kind of assault rifle, or the original Quake's nail gun; all of which it is far from being any of. You're still supposed to use it at the Scattergun's range (if not closer) so that the nails are easier to land, jumping around them to make them difficult to hit you also helps, and I've gotten dozens of nail gun kills this way. It's also good to use in hallways where enemies can't dodge, or with the Brick to get some extra damage in at the start to finish them off. The only mid-range scenario for the nail gun is destroying sentry guns while you're out of range, which it has excelled at since the steam update buffed its damage towards them.

>>732196176
All of them are shit.

>>732184101
deadlock

>>732197997
because pyro can go fuck itself

>>732196548
You can't add in extra teams in TF2, unless you wanted to use Vscript to make team_unassigned be used, which would be super buggy.
Adding custom classes, is technically possible with both Vscript and Source mod. But it also is really buggy and breaks constantly.
TF2C's weapons also use new attributes not in TF2, which technically could be done in sourcemod but is just more optimized to make it run in the game natively.

played classic years ago when it debuted
my only memories are
>ubering a civilian because it's funny how useless he is
>domming someone as sniper exclusively with bodyshots because he kept trying to rocket jump over the wall to B on tc_hydro and his subsequent seething over this clearly broken weapon on VC
>being spawn camped with grenades on harvest
>literally could not leave spawn at all that is how broken these cut-for-a-reason weapons are
>losing a match on 1fort because it's a singular, long choke and your teammates tank all your shots
game sucks
nigger lol
lmao

>>732214097
>No Modern Airblast
So wait they didn't keep the current airblast? Would have been no effort on their part to maintain. Also funny seeing people decide that they actually don't like the new airblast.

It's actually kino but /v/ is retarded, the new weapons are nowhere near as cancerous as the worst vanilla TF2 offenders (Vacc, Wrangler, Short Circuit, Dead Ringer)
All it needs is the FaN and Dragon's Fury to be perfection

If Classified is so bad then why is the epic chud TF2 Goldrush dead..?

>>732199670
>muh cheevos
You have brain damage.

>>732218578
Contrarians, unironically.
All of the contrarians where shilling the hell out of Gold Rush, then they actually played it. Realized there was no reason to play it and went back to playing live TF2.

>>732213151
Dude, it's still mostly pubs. People get called cheaters all the time. I got called a cheater a few years ago in TF2C using that thing, and I don't even play live TF2 anymore but I play a lot of Counter-Strike so the general feel of using that weapon carried over.

I don't know how to good at AAC
limited range makes me AAAGGGHHHHHH

>>732183721
dead in a week like every other tf2 mod

All these TF2 mods feel the same
>what if we took TF2 to a previous time period
>but we remove things and add things that weren't there
>also we don't know what balance is
It feels like they're all made to be contrarian to the base game and not trying to do something interesting with it.

>>732214097
Only to add new ones like the rejuvenator, hunting revolver, minelayer, aa gun, etc

>>732221086
Don't know what other mods you're thinking of besides Classified and Pre-Fortress 2.
>Pre-Fortress 2: Restores concepts from the game's 2006 beta (armor, grenades, etc.) and refines/polishes them.
>Gold Rush: TF2 Classic, but actually "classic", setting the game back to the early post-launch era with only a few weapons and one hat per class. Nothing new is added.
>Open Fortress: More of a TF2 fangame than a mod. Basically just an arena shooter in the TF2 aesthetic and universe.
>Lambda Fortress: Lets you play Half-Life 2, its episodes, and custom campaigns as TF2 characters in co-op.

>>732199893
blame bad map design all you want, but the aa cannon is completely fucked at any chokepoint, it is literally unlimited explosive spam

New weapons are good, I guess
But engineer's new pistol is ass
Overcharged jump has some potential

So did they nerf the AA cannon at all since they first released it?
I remember that update dropping and every single match became a ear rape central with 10+ AA sirens wailing at all times while the busted stats meant everyone got exploded within seconds

>>732221954
Those first two are effectively what I was saying, you said yourself Open Fortress is more of it's own thing, and Lamda Fortress sounds like more of a HL2 mod than a TF2 one.

tf2 has been dogshit for years. But TF2C is pretty fun. Anyone complaining about Soldier's new rocket launcher is a confirmed noob.

>>732223256
Lambda and Pre-Fortress are probably the only other 2 mods I'm hyped about. Especially the former since I used to be pretty big into Sven Co-Op Also just remembered another mod called Fortress-Life that's just live TF2, but Gordon Freeman's a 10th class and just uses the regular Half-Life 2 weapons.

i think the mods that are actually trying new and random things is good actually

I didn't think civilian was actually this fun

What do you think of this Mine Layer suggestion?
>Fire rate reduced to normal Stickybomb Launcher
>When triggered, mines bounce upwards before exploding.
>Crouching under a mine slightly reduces damage taken.
>Bounced mines can be reflected by a Pyro, where they will then detonate on impact with surfaces or players. This will serve to punish Demomen spamming the weapon in a general area.

I thought that the Nailgun was going to be bad. It's so fun! The Shorstop can go to hell