This entire ending is so retarded and nonsensical. How did Basil know how to tie a noose? There's no indication of him being depressed or suicidal at any point. How did nobody find out about them faking Mari's death other than the parents? How did she die from simply falling down the stairs?
Nothing about it is nonsensical. A bit contrived here and there but it all works. People have died in much stupider ways than that.
>>732201020>Nothing about is nonsensical >A bit contrived here and therePick one
>>732200509>How did Basil know how to tie a noose?You mean the gay boy that is all about handiwork?>There's no indication of him being depressed or suicidal at any point.Plain wrong>How did nobody find out about them faking Mari's death other than the parents?Only valid point. The police would've interrogated everyone about this. Sunny would've cracked and his parents definitely would've spilled out the beans>How did she die from simply falling down the stairs?Try it. Head first. You're breaking your neck at some point. People die from falling in the bathtub
>>732201038These do not mean the same thing so you can indeed pick both.
>>732201170the police aren't going to throw forensics at a suicide without probable cause to think otherwise, or unless the family asked
>>732201170>Plain wrongOkay. Show evidence that Basil was anything other than blissfully happy before Mari's death. Show that he knew how to tie a noose.
Go discuss that on /omog//v/ doesn't care about the discussion of this game beside porn.
there is already a thread and a general for your garbage tranny game
>>732202034and what exactly do you think /vg/ talks about instead?
>>732202154Definitely less porn than this shithole of a board.
>>732202358I'd tell you to actually go there if you believe this but I wouldn't wish /vg/ on anyone.
>>732200509I don't believe the police would litigate a mourning family and then tell the entire town if they believe it was an accident caused by their only surviving child.Like, people HAVE hearts you know.
>>732200509I think Mari was alive but unconscious, and what killed her was suffocation in the tree. That idea makes everything even sadder. I wish Mari had really committed suicide; it would have made the story more realistic and complex.
>>732202705That's the opposite of "more complex." You're asking for her to have done what it immediately appears she did on the surface.
>>732202705The "This person isn't breathing" line at the stairs kind of pokes a hole in that. The bulging eye that becomes the something doesn't necessarily mean she was alive
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Thanks doc
>>732200509There have been more absurd situations irl than that.
>>732203719This isn't IRL.
>>732201170There's no indication of Basil being other than blissfully happy before Mari's death and there's no indication that he had any suicidal ideation or knew how to tie a noose. There's no evidence whatsoever. It's all complete headcanon to try and suggest otherwise.
>>732202798Suicide is more complex and difficult to treat than unintended homicide.
>>732200509All I know about this game is the twist is dead kids and suicide and depression. Really unappealing sounding.
Which one of these guys is trans? I haven't played the game
>>732206248No, it isn't. Suicide = depression. Someone living with a secret murder (that even the player isn't let in on) + denial and an internal world built around his coping is absolutely the more complex story.
>>732206446None of them. There's absolutely zero LGBT shit in Omori which was a pleasant surprise.
>>732206579Fucking what lol? Why is it so popular with the troons then? Is this another situation where something with absolutely no intentions of being a troon fantasy like Astolfo or Bridget gets hijacked and ruined?
>>732206653I don't know where you're seeing confirmed troons. Probably making a lot of assumptions about anons from a conclusion you jumped to before knowing anything about the game at all.All I know is gayfags are furious at Omocat for not making Basil gay.
So which e-celeb did an essay or playthrough of this shit that warrants a sudden resurgence of MULTIPLE threads?
>>732201170I think some people are missing the point here. Basil was familiar enough with the concept of a hanging suicide that that idea was something that was even possible for his mind to pull out in the moment. It really doesn’t matter how Basil knew how to tie the knot, what matters is that Basil associated the knot with a suicide. If he just knew slip knots from bracelets and flower crowns, it would not have been possible for his mind to say, “right time to use that knot to hang Mari from a tree.” That’s the kind of idea that requires thought and consideration that Basil did not have time nor place of mind to do at the time of the incident.I don’t think he was actively suicidal when the friend group was all together, but everything we know about him definitely doesn’t paint a good picture of what his life was like before meeting Aubrey and the rest. Obviously, Basil is a very strong character, as he never actually went through with it pre-canon, but I think people are coping when they try and say that him knowing how to tie knots explains his actions because it actually doesn’t.
I'm almost there Anon, I think I got most of the keys help me find them, once I finish the game I'll discuss it
who the fuck are you speaking to nigga
>>732206653>Is this another situation where something with absolutely no intentions of being a troon fantasy like Astolfo or Bridget gets hijacked and ruined?YeahAlthough Omocat had a history of making gay stuff before making Omori, so make of that whatever you will
>>732204513Exactly. It's fiction, so that makes Omori's story even more plausible. More absurd things have happened irl.
>>732208562The issue with this argument is that OMORI creates (or at least tries to create) a direct delineation between the fantastical dream world, where everything can happen, and the real world, which aims to be more grounded and believable than that. Through elements such as Sunny's stats being worse than Omori's, the scene with cutting Aubrey in the park and the real world's food restoring little to no health to the party, the game trains the player to expect the events in its "real world" to operate on a logic fairly close to that of our real world. Two 12-year-olds immediately deciding to cover up a murder instead of doing literally anything else (like, for example, calling 911) goes directly against this logic, regardless of any in-universe justifications the game might try to conjure - if you present the audience with a grounded setting, repeatedly affirm how grounded it is and then have something as outlandish as the cover-up happen, that is objectively bad writing.
>>732202705Omocat said she was dead at the stairs.
>>732208648because children are well known for acting rationally, especially when they've done something bad
>>732209227You can't use that as an excuse.
>>732210436Why not?
>>732210645Because there's nothing showing Basil as anything other than blissfully happy to where he wouldn't have the mindset to come up with an idea like that.
>>732201738>15 year old girl commits suicide out of complete nowhere in this perfect back country town>nope no probable cause to atleast investigateWrong
>>732200509>>732201923I know what video you watched to get these opinions. too bad he didn’t make anything else. His video was based beyond belief
>>732210804excessive repetition is a hallmark of autism>>732211140Ah of course, I'm arguing with a youtuber by proxy. I should have known.
>>732210956A lot of suicides come "out of nowhere" to the outside perspective. You need more than that to convince a judge to let you violate a grieving family's privacy on suspicion of murder.
>>732211140https://youtu.be/5N3akTSmF3k?si=j8OwZril7QYQdqNcYou talking about this one?
>>732211602Ya. Sadly I think he got cucked by the algorithm for saying fag and anal near the end so it didn’t gain much traction. Would’ve loved to see more analysis from him
>>732211443Actually, you don't even need to assume the family stopped the autopsy or investigation. The mom already said that she's worried about Sunny being taken from her or at least heavily implied that.Even if the police knew absolutely everything, the chances that Sunny or Basil would be prosecuted for it would be almost nill. They'd both be way too young and almost certainly get a slap on the wrist for it.
it has been over 5 years and people are still discussing the ending?Just buy more Omori plushies
>>732200509>game about dealing with heavy emotions like grief>flat as a boring no personality protagonist>out of place tumblr creature (Basil) among extremely down to earth character designs>contrived plot about the mc accidently killing his sister and then hanging the corpse with a friend of his>instead of having dreams that actually involve aspects of his grief (besides slendermari), sunny is dreaming about dumpy the marshmallow man>this makes the dreamworld segments a fucking slog not even the fanbase likesThe only good thing that came from Omori is the incest porn. Omocat should've gone with her original idea of Sunny being a misanthrope coomer shota.
>>732200509Basil read The Far Side.
>>732206579>There's absolutely zero LGBT shit in Omori which was a pleasant surprise.Nobody tell him.
>>732211289>No argument so just cry autism.
>>732211443>nobody notices the violent head trauma/ very not noose-akin snapped neckSuicides are considered unnatural deaths in the majority of jurisdictions meaning there is already cause for the body to be taken and autopsied. That on top of her not having a note or anything is plenty
>>732211443 A rich family would atopsy their daughter's body even if she died from a car crash.
>>732212296when you get your own argument instead of parroting video essays I'll engage with it further
>>732212520He may be parroting but it doesn’t mean he’s wrong. I have yet to see a proper rebuttle
>>732212216Your little headcanon about Basil is false. Sorry.
>>732207696hahaha what the fuck are you doing copying reddit comments
>>732207696>>732212982LMAO
do you guys watch cinemasins or why do you actually care about minor pointless details?
>>732213085A typophobia inducing cluster of holes in the game's climax is not a minor detail.
american cops are shit at their job, people get away with murder all the time
>>732212316>why didn't they notice these things that require an autopsy to noticeYes they didn't notice because they hadn't performed an autopsy, YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER
>>732213297Yeah nobody else in the town is gonna hear from word of mouth that Sunny killed and hung his sister. They can only come to that conclusion when the evil acabs say they can.
>>732213206It just isn't spelled out to you. What's crazy is that you fuckers will constantly parrot "show don't tell" yet when shit is shown and not explicitly told it goes over your heads and you start crying about>DUH GAME NEVER EXPLAINED
>>732202129Omori hasZERO troonsZERO faggotseven ZERO niggers
>>732213369If Mari fell down the stairs so hard she died, her skull probably cracked in some places and she'd be covered in bruises. You don't need an autopsy to see bruises.Am I supposed to believe this overprotective family that allows their son to stay home 24/7 wouldn't also get their daughter an autopsy?
>>732211443Not really lolIt would've been extremely obvious she died from falling down the stairs and the suicide was a coverupThey would not have suspected the kids first, they'd have suspected the parentsThey wouldve found their alibi of not being home suspect until someone could verify itThey'd conduct an autopsy and find the impact wounds from falling down the stairs (which were severe enough to kill her)Her body would've been examined by a coroner even without an autopsy and he'd immediately recognize her neck and everything around it was a liquified mess inconsistent with a hangingIt's not like she OD'd on some hard to detect chemical, she suffered mortal blunt injuries from a fall and then was strung up post mortemThe entire story revolves around the local police not giving a shit, so IMO it's fine they would also not give a shit about Basil allegedly killing himselfIf you take umbrage at Basil's suicide you may as well dislike the entire game, because the sister's death would've been obviously very suspicious
>>732212970Nah it's not Basil. It's Captain Spaceboy.
>>732213403You people are so severely autistic it's unreal. Stop and think about what you're saying for a minute. >Local family has an apparent suicide>Start accusing the youngest son (who just lost his sister) of murdering herYou seriously think this behavior wouldn't get you ostracized and outed as a huge freak pariah in the community. Maybe stop grasping at literally anything and everything in some desperate attempt to win an argument and actually think through what you're saying first
>>732213369Did you forget to read the rest of that post or did you just ignore it because there’s 0 rebuttle because you’re wrong?Fucking idiot
>>732213491It's explained to me, it's just retarded as fuck. Every single character in Omori is just a big child, none of them have a brain that belongs in the body of an adult.They do perform autopsies for this shit by default just to make sure it wasn't an obviously covered up murder.
>>732213615>>732213491You don't even have to argue this. Even if the police knew everything, there wouldn't be any charges put on Sunny or Basil because of how young they were. The police most likely figured it out but didn't do anything in regards to prosecuting Sunny for it.
>>732213725You are very naive if you think the world operates on "everyone is nice and has the pride of a shonen protagonist". Rumors would spread regardless of how liked Sunny is.>>732213783The police would tell their families how fucked up it is and rumors would spread.
>>732213783They wouldn't have immediately suspected sunny, they would've suspected his parents. Mari's body would've been covered in injuries. When they found her, the police would've assumed she was either being abused, or had been severely beaten. They may have even believed the suicide angle at first, but they wouldn't have not noticed her body being a broken mess of injuries. Everything from her bones to her skin to even her hair would be fucked up. They wouldn't have covered anything up to protect Sunny either. They may not press any charges, but they wouldn't just not investigate. They'd suspect some kind of foul play until they found the reason, which would've been really easy if any of the family or Basil consented to be interviewed. It wouldn't have taken very long to figure out how she died.
>>732213712If your proof is some tweet Omocat made years later, I really don't give a shit. There's no LGBT shit in the game.
>>732213921>>732213919Why do you think no other adults than Sunny's parents are in either headspace or real world?
>>732213761Good thing they're all literal children then. I suspect you have the brain of a child as well.
I actually liked this game quite a bit and the finale made me emotional which is something few other games ever managed to do, I'm not sure why so many of you are so focused on the accident itself and not the messaging and how the characters felt about it. To me it was a really nice story about learning to move on despite how absurdly tragic the beginning of your life turned out to be, it also emphasizes how nice it is to have actual, REAL friends which is something I lacked and maybe still lack to this day. The mental space thing is also fairly relatable to me, it might just be because of the game's strongest points resonating more with me because of my life experiences but I did not think it was bad at all
>>732213926Take it up with Spaceboy's creator, incest baby.
>>732213615It's implied that the family did know but covered it up to protect their son. Hence the scene with the father chopping down the tree.>>732213729>fucking idiot>rebuttleIronic. It's spelled rebuttal. Every spellcheck tool in the universe and you still fucked up lol. You think the police investigates every time there's no note? I didn't address it because it's a nothing point. Most suicides don't leave a note.
>>732214029How did Sunny's mom give birth if she's a child? Is Sunny's dad a diddyblud!?!?!?
>>732200509>How did Basil know how to tie a noose?It's just knot tying.>There's no indication of him being depressed or suicidal at any point.You did notice that he isn't being raised by either of his actual parents, but still has biological family, right? Did you think that was just some funny coincidence? No, dumbass, he had some horrible family tragedy that we aren't privy to. No kid being raised by a fucking "caretaker" whose only friend is the literal poorest child in town is perfectly hunky dory.>How did nobody find out about them faking Mari's death other than the parents?Small town, and a bit of narrative contrivance.>How did she die from simply falling down the stairs?I'm sorry, that's what you're objecting to? It seems like a pretty normal fatal injury to me.
>>732214096lol, I knew it would be some social media retcon nonsense. There is no LGBT shit in the game.
>>732214085There's nothing wrong with simply discounting how real police would quickly figure out what happened. Most stories require some suspension of disbelief. To complain about how they handle Basil's suicide as if that's some breaking point however is silly, and that's what OP did. In real life, it wouldn't take a genius to see immediately Mari's death was not suicide.
>>732214085>so many of youIt's just OP sperging out over a youtube essay for four hours straight
>>732214209I'm not OP. I hate Omori more than anyone else in the world and I don't need a youtubers approval for that.
>>732214183Here's someone who found a scribble from 2017 showing he got top sugery.Cope, you fucking incest baby.
>>732214363I believe you OP
>>732200509
>>732214417This is not the final character in the game, anon. Omocat didn't include their headcanon. And no pencil scribbles, no matter when they were made, change that.
>>732213919What are you talking about? >"everyone is nice and has the pride of a shonen protagonist"I never fucking said this. But normal people are very emotional and will side eye you for saying this type of thing out loud. Most of the time when there's a suicide, it's a major social taboo to start accusing the family of murder. It's nothing to do with being "nice" or liking Sunny.
>>732214457>e-everyone who hates my teenagerslop is the same person>o-omori is the best heckin depressionerino game ever>f-female writers arent le badomocat will notice you one day i promise
>>732214539Omocat doesn't own the character, you incest baby.
>>732214601sorry your thread isn't going your way but you don't have to keep sperging out at everyone
>>732214617She literally does though? If you are in charge, you own the studio, you organize the game, you call the shots of what is and is not canon. Omocat wrote Space Boyfriend. And even they admitted in your little "gotcha" that Omocat did not take this "lore" into account.
>>732214597>Most of the time when there's a suicide, it's a major social taboo to start accusing the family of murder.Where the fuck do you live where this is the case? This is not true at all, especially if there was unrest in the family (and there was). Social taboos don't prevent inner feelings of something being off either, they may not SAY what they're clearing thinking. But trust me, they're thinking it.
>>732214124Again you conveniently ignore my point that almost every jurisdiction treats suicide as an unusual death and the body would be seized regardless of actual suspicion (which there still would be plenty of)Just shut the fuck up, you’re grasping at straws hence your unironic >lmao you spelled wrong you loseArgument
Frames after Kurt Kobain shot himself, people were making public accusations that his wife shot him and covered it up. I think a small town where a girl carries around a bat with nails and beats people with it inside of a church isn't an exception to this phenomenon.
>>732214705Nope, Jami is credited as the Spaceboy creator. Your husbando is a tranny, deal with it incest baby.
>>732214812And guess what? If the body was seized, autopsied and even if Sunny and Basil gave full confessions? Nothing would happen. They'd also very quickly figure out that her parents had never abused her. So they'd get off scot free too.
>>732215361You are desperate for top surgery scars to be canon, huh?I don't even know where you're getting this "incest" stuff from.
>>732215041celebrities you don't care about (at best for courtney love of all people) and will never meet =/= your neighbors in a small town. Unless you really didn't like them you don't just assume they're murderers of their own children.
>>732215501>Unless you really didn't like them you don't just assume they're murderers of their own children.In an upper class neighborhood, gossip is all the rage.
>>732215485>moving the goalpostThen it wouldn’t be a secret to everyone you fucking retard. So it still makes 0 sense for everyone to take her suicide at face value
>>732215725You don't think the police would end the investigation on the downlow without the whole town having to know?
books, movies and games become way more enjoyable if you stop obsessing over minor story details
>>732215663if you say so
>>732215778That’s not how investigations work at all. That type of incident would easily make at least local news
>>732206653Everything is popular with troons, they are parasites that force their ways into the things you like and try to make them about themselves.
>>732215816They become better if the author actually gave a shit.
>>732215926Police investigations involving minors are usually extremely private and kept locked away from public view.
>>732216075stories without plot holes were everything is explained are for autistic people
>>732216272WHEREDOYOUTHINKYOUARE
>>732216251Not when it comes to felonies. Especially when they are acting as adults which they absolutely were when they knowingly destroyed and hid evidence and framed her death as a suicide. They probably still wouldn’t be charged but this would absolutely be reported in the news with redacted names of sunny and basil, but Mari’s death not being from suicide would be released because that’s relevant info to a lot of people
>>732216594Courts don't treat literal twelve year old kids as "acting as adults". Media doesn't "absolutely" report these with cause-of-death bombshells; confidentiality wins out in most low-profile cases.
>>732216594are you even aware which person in your neighborhood died the most recent?
>>732216251I don't know what state Omori takes place in, but a judge decides if the minor will even get any distinction from being charged as an adult. Not every minor gets that. Some just get public court proceedings and are tried as adults. It's entirely possible Sunny would've been convicted of very serious crimes. While the death was accidental, staging the scene was not. That took planning and changes how everything would play out. People saying they'd get no charge are not being honest with themselves, out of sympathy for Sunny, which is born from playing as him.If the cops found out he staged the scene, he'd be facing the very real possibility of very serious charges.His parents had money so they'd be able to make a solid defense, but his confession years later could've easily meant he suffered real and serious, life ending legal consequences.
>>732216075Nothing described in the OP is a big enough plot hole that I'd say "the author didn't care.">"HOW'D HE LEARN TO TIE A SLIPKNOT?????"is such an autistic idea of an own.
>>732217016>I don't know what state Omori takes place in, but a judge decides if the minor will even get any distinction from being charged as an adult. Not every minor gets that. Some just get public court proceedings and are tried as adults.This is EXTREMELY rare and only used when the kid actually full on kills someone deliberately and it's very clear that Sunny didn't intend to kill Mari. It'd also be very likely that the whole staging would be attributed to childish panic and mental anguish and not some deliberate ill intended act. Statute of limitations also plays a massive part here. It most likely wouldn't be worth it to pursue even if he fully confessed.
>>732216853They have and absolutely do when it comes to extreme cases like this. Have you seriously never heard of minors being tried as adults? They have done it before just for hiding the murder weapon. They would absolutely do it for tampering with a body to frame it as a suicide
>>732217413Anon, this was literally an accident. That's not an "extreme" scenario that they'd be using that for.
>>732217540Anon they LITERALLY TOOK HER BODY AND HANGED IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDEThat is tampering of the highest level and would be considered extreme
>>732217404Sunny pushed her down the stairs in a fit of rage after destroying his violin in an explosive display of anger. It could very well result in a serious charge. The cops would have a dead girl and a crime scene. If they caught on the scene was staged, that would indicate he knew what he did and actively attempted to hide it.It's not impossible he would've caught a serious charge like manslaughter.
>>732217734Yeah, after an accident where he very clearly didn't intend to kill her.
>>732217840What do you mean "very clearly"? They weren't playing when he killed her. He was smashing shit and shoved her down the stairs. She died. It may not have been premeditated, but he hid it for a fucking reason. He knew he fucked up bad, he was out of his fucking mind with rage, and it directly caused the death of someone. He's a child with extreme rage issues who just killed someone.
>>732217840The fact that the death was an accident is irrelevant when he hid evidence, tampered with her body, and framed it as a suicide. That would not be taken lightly by courts and they could easily catch charges for that. Minors have been charged as adults for much less
>>732217758That would be involuntary manslaughter not just manslaughter. And it's extremely unlikely for a literal 12 year old kid to be charged with something like that, especially given the context surrounding it. This was a rage push combined with panic staging afterwords, which nobody would think was some sophisticated and deliberate plan.>>732218000Just because he pushed her in a fit of rage doesn't mean he was intending to kill her. This was not some deliberate, premeditated murder, it was entirely impulsive and done in the moment. The fact that it was an accident is pivotal for the whole case. There's no way that any kid would get charged from accidental death plus panic tampering afterwards.
>>732218135The death would not even remotely resemble a straight up accident. Nothing about her death from an outward observer would make it immediately considered an accident. Once they found the violin smash to shit, it'd look like he fucking lost it and attacked her, which is what happened.People saying it was "obviously" an accident are operating from a position of (understandable) bias. It would've looked extremely bad for him. Yes he did not intend to push her down the stairs, but he did push her down the stairs, in the midst of an explosive rage fit. There'd be a lot pointing to him losing it. The sad thing is it -wasnt- purely an accident. He did intend to attack her.He'd likely have been remanded to a mental health facility until he was 18, and be known as the local nutjob for the rest of his life.
>>732218135It being accidental is pivotal for the whole case. What are you talking about? Do you think that someone accidentally killing someone is going to get the same punishment as a deliberate homicide?Sunny getting a slap on the wrist for this is completely realistic and possible.
>>732218545Deliberate implies premeditation, and you're right they would not consider it premeditated. But he still could've caught a manslaughter charge or something similar. There are a lot of different ways to charge someone with a death. Sunny will be looking at serious consequences after his confession. His age would be factored in, as would his legal defense his parents could've paid for (if they were willing), but it could still go pretty bad for him. And to be completely honest, Sunny WOULD need some kind of mandated therapy. He SHOULD get some kind of real world punishment. He DESERVES a stint in some kind of state mandated care facility. Just because he felt bad doesn't change that he ended someone's life because of his anger, over a petty argument and the stress of his big sister bitching at him over a violin. That's a serious mental deficiency that NEEDS to be professionally addressed. As bad as he feels, that anger is still part of Sunny and he could very well snap like that again.
>>732218690Accidental death, sure.Intentional tampering with the body, hiding evidence, and framing it as a suicide, na
>>732218889The whole point of this argument is that Sunny getting what amounts to a slap on the wrist with basically zero long lasting consequences, (other than the obvious mental problems) is not only possible and realistic but also highly likely in a case like this.It's also implied that whatever police involvement they had is over with now considering anything involving police is never once brought up. The mother was already worried about him getting taken away which seems to suggest they were already under investigation at that point. >>732219004I very highly doubt that he would get charged for that either considering his age and it would probably be looked as some kind of childish panic.
>>732218634If they actually autopsied her body, it would quickly become apparent that it was an accident.
The fact that there's this much disagreement even with the game's own fans seems to tell me that this writing is awful.
>>732214193It's implied that the family found out.
>>732217120There is a lot of plot holes.
>>732224138Go ahead and list them then, because I haven't heard any that strike me as unbelievable.
>>732224331How was Basil's mental state so bad that he came up with the plan of hanging Mari? Why didn't they just say that she fell down the stairs and that was it?
Read the manga
>>732224626They were probably afraid the truth of the fall would come to light unless they disguised it as something else happening.Next?
>>732224727I can't it makes me too horny
>>732225192That doesn't answer the question. How was Basil's mental state so bad that he came up with the idea in the first place?
>>732225702He just witnessed his friend die at the hands of his other friend. What the fuck kind of question is that?
>>732225525Why did the artist make Basil so erotic?
>>732224727>only 2 chapters on mangadex>only 3 on nyaaWhere?
>>732225770What beforehand happened to him that would make him think that nor associate that knot with suicide?
>>732226730Holy shit, anon.This isn't necessary to establish. You're doing the autism thing where you need every minutia explained on screen to you instead of asking "could a young boy know how to tie a noose?" to the obvious and immediate answer "possibly."That's NOT A FUCKING PLOTHOLE that's an obsessive compulsive nitpick because you don't have a feel for storytelling that this doesn't need direct explaining.
>>732200509Sunny developed Omori, the "ignore everything bad and rewrite the past to be nicer" coping mechanism. Basil got something worse.
>>732226953Homosexuality?
>>732226214official sources
>>732226214weebcentral has up to 14
>>732227018they didn't need to make her ghost so sexy but then again everything about the Omori manga is breathing sex
>>732226730>>732226934Furthermore, it isn't even necessary to the plot that either of them tied the noose correctly. It's heavily implied the parents figured out the truth during the pseudo flashback.
>>732226214Sincerely lurk /a/ moar or google harder for an aggregator that has it. After dex and comick sold out I'm gatekeeping the few good ones still around.
>>732227014a copeain't mechanisn't
>>732227014He already had that, he was practically born to be fucked.
>>732200509I unironically wish this game didnt have any of the edge shit in it and was just a played straight child's adventure, everytime it brings in something "dark" i just groan>"Oh thats part of the point"I dont give a shit
>>732227419https://store.steampowered.com/app/977880/Eastward/
>>732200509Mari had a bad leg from a softball incident when she was younger. She was facing away from the stairs and got shoved down them. She couldn't catch herself, fell hard, and hit her head. Some people crash their cars into walls and walk away with bruises, some people slip in the shower and crack their head open. Just bad luck incited by a stupid, heat-of-the-moment decision. The tragedy is the point.
>>732227419Be less of a fag then. I autistically checked every mirror and object for secret spooks and was pleasantly surprised at how often I found them.
>>732227419>straight childCompletely wrong game for you, anon
>>732226934>This isn't necessary to establish.Yes it is actually. You need to establish why a character does they things they do or don't do. I don't even know how this is necessary to explain. Fandoms are now disregarding the most basics of writing in regards to responding to criticism. Autism is when writing needs justification. Awesome.Currently, there's no reason for why Basil acts the way he does or why he responds to the incident like that. Why does he even know how to tie a noose? Where would he even come up with such a plan?
>>732227312>>732225525Mating press
>>732227848>You need to establish why a character does they things they do or don't do.I agree. And we know Basil helps Sunny disguise Mari's death because he is afraid for his friend. THAT is "why" he did it. What you are describing is the minutia of "how." And that's NOT necessary to establish down to "how he knew how to tie a knot." Like, holy shit. You are so autistic.
>>732213926>>732215489you are getting baited retardthat artist hates omocat for>creating the character (without telling omocat his headcanons)>it gets into game>"yeah actually hes a tranny so make sure to reflect that">omocat completely ignores this
>>732228167Even fujos hate the trannies.
>>732228167This is a good reason why you should never take in artist OC's, even if it makes them happy. They're bound to assert wacky things about them after the fact.
>>732227980Anon, you know that this isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how his mental state would have been deteroirated enough to think of something like that in the first place. There's no evidence whatsoever that he had the right level of mental illness and knowledge to pull this off.
>>732214096>As his motherSpaceboy was groomed?
>>732228384So is it incest if the creators goon it to their own creations?
>>732228352You keep conflating matters.>My point is how does he know how to tie the knot?>no my point is he has to be depressed enough to know how to tie the knot so why was he depressed? He needs a whole backstory about being depressed lolYou're packaging two different assertions as one, and I'm telling you it's not even necessary that he be suicidal beforehand. A knot is a knot. Also, go back and read: >>732227135None of your points matter because even if they tie the knot wrong, NOTHING CHANGES.
>>732228384That artist pulled a celeste and trooned out eventually
>>732228547We need to know if he's depressed or not to even think about doing something like this. There's no evidence he was anything other than happy beforehand.
>>732228671This is like talking to a brick wall. He doesn't need to be depressed to know how to tie a knot. All that matters is that he knows what suicide by hanging is, and he's not 5 years old so plausibly he might.
The thing about Omori is>fuck! we need to frame her death as a suicide instead of just saying she fell down the stairs!is just really fucking funnyI mean what was even the thought process for this
>>732228167Close, but the reddit thread was taken down. They reached a consensus of Spaceboy being an omori thing, while their original design/vision is their own
>>732228352Basil is a clingy, lonely freak that will go to extreme lengths to protect Sunny, who he sees as his only friend. This is not subtext, this is very explicitly laid out in front of you nearly every time you're confronted with real life Basil, his sense of self is inextricably tied to Sunny. His calculus was very, very, very obviously:>Sunny accidentally killed Mari.>Sunny will be in big trouble if he's caught.>I have to make sure he isn't caught.>We have to cover up the accident.It's that straightforward. In fact, it's so straightforward, and so cleanly in line with the histrionic mess that Basil is presented as, that I have to assume you're being dishonest when you say you don't see how he could reach this point. The Mari incident was a mistake that snowballed out of control because one mentally ill boy wanted to put everything on the line to keep another mentally ill boy safe from consequences, but it only made things worse. That's the point, it's fuck up after fuck up, it's a tragedy.
>>732228816The thought process is two boys, one watching the other kill his sister. And in a panic, they formulate a bad plan.Why is this impossible to believe?>"BUT I would have been in PERFECT MENTAL STATE! Like I currently am as an overhead observer to this RPGmaker game!"Sure kiddo
>>732229028He considered hanging Mari as the first thing. That isn't something a mentally normal child thinks of. Why is that? >>732228735Anon, all of that is explained AFTER the Mari thing, I'm talking about his mental state BEFORE Mari's death.
>>732228816that was entirely basil's idea, and he didnt want his nigga sunny to get in trouble>wtf is wrong with that kid then?if were older he'd know it obviously wouldnt fucking work without the insane luck he had>still, what is wrong with basil as a person?parentscaling>well adjustedsunny before his dad left, mari, the spics, aubrey before her dad left>unwellsunny, aubrey after her dad left>parents barely/not in his lifebasil>lost grandma basil (immediately went to kill himself)even THE MAVERICK innately being a schizo was corrected by the end of the game due to having loving parents
>>732229028He's definitely trolling.See?:@732229214no (You)'s anymore.
>>732229101>And in a panic, they formulate a bad plan.why'd they even come to such a stupid plan
Does he even tie a noose in the first place? Don't they just wrap the jump rope around her neck? You've been sperging out over this for like eight hours now by the way.
>>732229214Because Basil is not a mentally normal child at all, it is very likely he never was. Again, this is not subtext, it is impossible to interact with Basil in the real world without quickly catching on that he's sick in the head and views Sunny as the center of his world. I am concluding that you either don't know what you're talking about or deliberately trying to lie.
>>732229396What started as genuine stupidity is now a trolling attempt when he realized the logic. Tale as old as time.
>>732229423There's a reason for that, that's because he was Sunny's accomplice. Why does he think that way before her death though?
>>732206369Yeah, it's fucking lame.The type of BEEG TWEEST that you can see from a mile away but then the game has to put you through its twee Earthbound masturbations for 20+ hours until you get there.There's no LGBT shit in it but that doesn't keep it from being so fucking gay that it attracts that crowd.
>>732229516Because he's mentally ill, retard-kun. He always was.
>>732200509>How did she die from simply falling down the stairs?Humans are aurprisintly fragile. If you land wrong then it's over.
>>732229720Then they need to show that in the game, and they don't.
>>732230040Cute
Why does Basil own a camera? Where did he learn to use it? The game needs to show this or it's a plothole
>>732230635The mari death is a massive plot point, Basil using the camera isn't.
>>732230772The photo album is crucial to the story, its very important. It needs to be clearly established why he would know how to make it.
>>732230912There is a massive difference in how much contextual fidelity one is expected to apply to each scenario. While we can ignore the operational details of the camera, the narrative has implicitly asked us to confront the real-world implications of Mari's fall. And as for those implications, Mari's death is clearly thematically framed as something that is supposed to be shockingly realistic and gruesome. We see the actual events of the accident take place in detail, and they are literally "framed" inside of a photo frame, in a physical album. It is unequivocally presented as "here's what really happened in real life." As such, it demands more scrutiny because it has been presented in such a grounded and realistic manner, and even if aspects of the rest of the game are whimsical in tone, it is evident that we are supposed to view the images as the "real" truth and AREN'T supposed to view the death through a fanciful lens. The events we see are clearly meant to be "reality," yet are inconsistent with reality as we actually know it. The narrative implies that we should take this event seriously, and in doing so, opens itself up to real-world comparisons. Thus, when the details of such an important event don't align with real-world physics, biology, or logic, it threatens the ability to maintain any suspension of disbelief and disrupts the player's engagement with the story.
>>732231103You need chatgpt to fight for you now? Pathetic.
>>732231350>Someone didn't post like a retard so they're using ChatGPT
>>732231423>didn't deny it
>>732231475That was pretty clearly me denying it.
>>732229862>Humans are surprisingly fragileYet the opposite is also true. There's been people cut in half who survive and people who blow half their head off still living yet people die choking on broccoli or bumping their head inches off the ground.
>>732231602I didn't see the words "I deny it" anywhere so it sounds like a plothole to me
>>732231963I know you're coping massively over this plothole but could you make it less obvious?
>>732229623The twist itself is very badly written.
>>732230635It probably would have been better if they explained how Basil got a camera to be honest. It would give it more weight.
Bump
>>732200509He didn’t. It just so happens that a flower crown knot is remarkably similar to a a hangman’s knot.
>>732201170That’s because the parents did know, and covered it up for Sunny. This is heavily implied in Black Space 2.
>>732238237Then the entire town should have known about it, especially if it was investigated but Sunny got a slap on the wrist for it.
>>732238150That doesn't explain how he associated it with suicide.
bump
>>732229286>Anything I don't agree with is a troll
>>732245240Desperate for a reply this late, huh? When the post I cite ignores literally every word I said, yes, it's a troll.
>>732245592It responded by pointing out all of Basil's mental problems happen after Mari's death, not before it.
>>732246257>>732228547and>>732228735>He doesn't need to be depressed to know how to tie a knot.was met with:>>732229214>Anon, all of that is explained AFTER the Mari thing, I'm talking about his mental state BEFORE Mari's death.How did you manage to dodge every point I made?
>>732200509I wonder, what if he just said that she fell down the stairs accidentally? Like she went downstairs for a snack but didn't turn the lights on and slipped? That's a perfectly possible scenario.
>>732200509I still don't get the angle of SOMETHING, that is not how an eye peering through hair looks
>>732214417as some passerby anon, who has no stakes in any of this, the tranny artist could have doodled this at any point in time before the time of the pics posting.Or, the psycho tranny orbiter could have even doodled the image, then falsely attributed it to the artist.
>>732248075Its a symbolic abstraction. It is not a literal depiction of what her head hanging from the noose looked like.Try thinking of a smile or smiling face, the vast majority of people would picture something akin to a smiley emoji or a simplistic cartoon smiley face, rather than a detailed realistic face. This is similar, the most impactful details are retained (The one visible eye) and everything else simplified (her body + head obscured by her hair)
>>732228862served that retard with a full platter. now they can go back to seethe posting on Bluesky.
>>732202034omog is a tranny parade
he didnt deserve this
