are you guys ready for the greatest tactical turn based RPG of the decade, coming into early access in 2 days?
>>732207639Why hire the astartes guy who makes his videos look high speed low drag for your slow as fuck turned base game?
The demo had some nice elements but overall I don't have high hopes for this.>can't make your own dudes, stuck with a bunch of premade negroes and jeets>roguelite retardation instead of open world like in BB>infinite reinforcements that make hostage rescue a massive pain in the ass where the reward isn't worth 3 hours of slog
But that's not ?Mars Tactics
>>732207639give me xcom 3
>>732207639fuck early access - you zoomer niggers work 2 hours a week - fuck every one of your early access games - you niggers can't finish a single fucking thing in your lives
>wokeslop
>>732208524battle brothers launched in early access and turned out great thoughbeit
>>732207639After playing demo I'm not interested anymore.I'm going to reinstall Battle Bros instead.
>>732207639mr hooded horse marketing sama, I know "marketing" on 4channel is free but please, the average /v/ nigger doesnt have the mental capacity for these kind of games, let it die and make way for more gacha slop
>>732207639>premade characterswhat were they thinking?
>>732208718i personally like the choice. they said they are aiming for a more traditional story game that still has a ton of replayability as opposed to the complete sandbox that is battle brothers. there will be a more cohesive narrative and a clear ending to the campaign
>>732207639Demo was liquid shit, so not really.
>>732208896>there will be a more cohesive narrative and a clear ending to the campaignWho asked for this? Point me at a Battle Brothers fan who said "I fucking hate sandbox and want a story game instead!"
>>732208968what didn't you like about it? it felt a bit too slow for me, but i appreciate how crunchy it is with all the stats there are
>>732208287>>roguelite retardation instead of open world like in BBits not a roguelite, its instanced missions, your ship is the lobby and planets offer short(few missions) operations >>732208287>>can't make your own dudes, stuck with a bunch of premade negroes and jeetsthat and the other thing is that the options and numbers of them are very limited and so replacements
>>732208570turned out not bad, not that great as could bet. early BB adopter >>732208896>a ton of replayabilitynot with 2 dozen characters
>niggers and womenand put on the ignore listdid you guys know, that devs can see how many people put games on their ignore list? and if enough people do it affects their visibility on steam?i can't stand games like this where it wouldn't matter if your guys were just faceless mooks but they STILL force you to look at fucking niggers in menus. disgusting.
>theres an indian squad leader and his special ability "strength in numbers" which gives him a big power boost the more units he has in his squad, while being much weaker than other squads the less units he hasuhh, thats kinda racist
>>732207639Sorry but the demo was objectively boring.
>>732209313they will be adding a lot more gear and characters to the game
>>732209618yeah, maybe, maybe notso far they were talking about two dozen chars for 1.0, so less in EA
>>732209553and theres a generic big muscley black guy squad leader who's trait is being able to use heavy weapons without deploying them
>>732209553>jeet squad leaderslike that jeeta driver wasn't enough
Battle brothers was slop and this actually looks good, so I'm looking forward to it. But it will probably be very expensive in my region because the dev is high on its own farts when it comes to regional pricing, so I'll likely skip it.
is this gonna be like space marine 2 where /v/ says it's woke until it does really well?
>>732207639>greatest tactical turn based RPGFrom my experience from the beta, the core mechanics seems to be pretty underwhelming and basic, with the way that game handle LOS and cover.Like, I had case of on of my squads taking position in a tower, yet somehow having a wall block their LOS despite visually they being above said wall. Another thing that got me pissed was that the APC offered no protection at all against flamethrowers and troops inside it get fuck maybe even harder than if they were outside it.
>>732210017/v/ says everything is woke these days
Anyone notice how every single rpg release that /v/ hypes up is absolute shit
>>732207639I don't pay money to beta test games for devs. Wake me up when there's a finished product.
>>732210149i mean the apc was one of the lightest armored vehicles in the demo. also flamethrowers kind of countered armored vehicles in real life anyways
>>732210387no one is hyping this game up though, that means it will turn out good right?
>>732210017its sponsored by German government, they 100% got diversity quota to get the funding
>>732210149>APC offered no protection at all against flamethrowersYou should see what happens to a tank crew when you set a tank on fire.
>>732210149>DURRRR MY SOLDIERS GOT HURT BY FIRE WHEN I PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER IN THE ENCLOSED METAL BOXYou are too stupid for this genre, anon
>>732207639Dropped the second I heard a female pajeet voice acting as a space marine. That tells you absolutely 100% everything about the mentality and direction of the developers. No human being on planet earth would ever say "you know who would be a cool space marine? And indiaj female" this is the kind of idea that just simply does not exist naturally. For this idea to even be pitched let alone accepted says absolutely everything about these devs
i can overlook dark skinned subhumans and women if the game plays well. the demo was fun so I'll probably pick it up
>>732210756i would care if this was a story centric game, but its just a tactical battle sandbox game, who cares what race the characters are? the squad leaders will have like 10-15 battle quips each and thats it
>>732210434>>732210594>>732210612I belive that most modern tanks and armored troop carriers since the cold war been designed to at least give some protections to crew and passagenrs against biological chemical and nuclear threats, and this include external sources of fire/heat. Now, if a tank ammo storage goes off from a hit, that is completly different story.But please feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong.
>>732207639I've enjoyed the fuck out of the demo so I've got hopes for this.
>>732211039clearly the dev cared so he's not getting my money
>>732209087>AI is too stupid to pose any kind of challenge which becomes especially bad because of how initiative and unit order works>AP system is absolutely wasted without baseline reactions or general way to interact during opposing turn>square grid movement fucking sucks, we had two decades of skirmish wargames with freeform movement >clanner retardation with mission scoring that directly affects your exp, which might become oppressive enough to be interacted with depending on geoscape balancing>weapons are boring as fuck and can't even be customized to the silly extent of needing to find variant of the same gun if you want scope or silencer on it>most upgrades are shared between squads pulling from what seems to be universal pool, making initially interesting premise of having different squads with unique strength, weaknesses and progression moot>pin is really fucking stupid mechanic especially with how pants on the head retarded ai is at managing initiative and activating squads>as it was in the demo game has zero fucking reason to be scifi, it barely has any interesting gadgets or gear to work with, it could be ww2 game for all intents and purposes>maps actively suck being flat boards with uninteractable obstacles the only elevation was emplacement towers and even that barely counts
>>732207639I played the demo, and it was horribly dry, boring, uninspired and didnt feel tactically relevant or interesting in any way. Its just doing the same thing we've seen hundreds of times in X-Com lite games, instead of introducing anything new.Hard pass.
im unironically looking forward to this more than GTA 6
>>732207639>early accessI'll check it out in 5+ years when it gets a proper release assuming devs don't abandon it before then (they will).
>>732208896thanks chatgpt
>>732211039Female pajeet space marine = I will not even play your game for free. I hope the devs all die in fact.
Why would I play this over XCOM or some XCOM mod?
>>732211126That biological and nuclear protection comes from filters, anon. You can't filter fire.
>>732208570it's mid and the combat is so chaotic 90% of people quit once they realize it
>>732211450Cause Xcom fucking sucks?>le ebin "tactical" game where the only tactic that matters is saving your explosives to avoid dice rolls that would have otherwise been risky
>>732211450this game is really nothing like xcom besides both being turn based tactical games
>battle brothers>we made our game look like a cheap mobile game on purpose
>>732211126I imagine it's really question of how much fire, a small amount is unlikely to do much to modern tanks, but if you engulf a tank in flame over an extended period the crew is probably in for a very bad time.
>>732211450xcom is small scale compared to menace. after watching some menace gameplay on youtube, late game fights end up being pretty huge. i've seen people fielding up to 9 squads in a single battle. not to mention having actual usable vehicle units in the game
>>732211126NTA butMost of the casualties from flamethrowers come from CO2 poisoning and oxygen depletion rather than heat. Filters can remove the smoke but can't replace the O2 and a lot of filter mediums don't catch CO2. Filters are designed to remove dangerous and volatile chemicals from the air, not replace the air entirely. The crew Should be fine if you hit the APC with incendiary bullets, tho, but I haven't seen that in the demo.
>>732211890>late game fights end up being pretty hugebut is it implemented well? My guess is no.
>>732211462>You can't filter fire.Maybe, but fire cant go through solid objects either.>>732211696True.But that my gripe with game is that the APC(at least in the beta) was basicaly considered the same a garrisonable building when it came down to flamethrows.
>>732211324>X-com lite>X-comDid you even play this game?
>>732209527>>732209553tired of this shit
>>732211596It's best to aim low and hit high. Especially with a company's first games. COD and Highguard proved that looking good doesn't mean it plays good.
>>732207639Hmmmm...I don't know im not convinced. I played the demo, which was great. But i kind of wanted to make my friends the generals and have it a bit closer to xcom 2...I'll keep an eye on it. But i'm not convinced. I don't know if i'll care about the premade characters the same way i would if they were generated.
>>732212054I played half-way through the first mission the demo gave to me, and the game didnt feel like having any tactical depth or meaningful choices. It felt like X-Com lite.If i play a game today i want new ideas, new interactions, new ways of see the gameplay, something never seen before. I can always go back to play X-Com, FFT or whatever, i dont need your halfcooked game FOTM. The game also looked ridicilously uninspired and cheap.
>>732212193Yeah, it's like every game you've got these haters that talk shit despite not knowing shit.
demo didn't sell it for me
>>732212312The fact that you compare it to X-com means you really have no idea what you're talking about.
>>732212373/v/ will hate on it until it turns out to be a success and in 2 years they will say they always liked it
>>732212449At Least 2 years. There's still some haters for Warframe.
>>732212212>Highguard>looks good
>>732212373>despite not knowing shit.I know that if you force niggers indians and womens into your military game I will not buy it
>>732212445I dont need to compare to it to anything, but X-COM is the gold standard of turn strategy games. If you cant deliver anything new or interesting compared to the baseline, your game is not hooking or interesting. Sorry Mr. Dev.If you want to gift me the game i can do QA and playtest for free, i've worked with studios before, im a gamedesigner, quest designer and screenwriter.
>>732212727>X-COM is the gold standard of turn strategy gameslol lmao even
>>732212373You misunderstood my post, friendo.
>>732207639>>732208309
XCOM has done irreversible damage to the tactics genre. It's the world of warcraft of the tactics genre in which it casualized and streamlined everything. Popular doesn't = good. MENACE is a return to form of the pre XCOM days
>>732213043To year 93? What?
>>732213043spotted the zoomer trying to be gatekeeper lol
>>732213090i mean it's more of a return to actual unique gameplay designs instead of trying to copy XCOM. it feels like all the game devs who've tried to make tactics games the past decade just go "oh XCOM is so popular let's make a game just like it". MENACE devs are finally trying something different and it's refreshing
>>732212727>i've worked with studios before, im a gamedesigner, quest designer and screenwriter.show us your work then, considering you are criticizing a game studio that already made a loved tactics game that already spawned mutliple new games in the same style because it was that good
>>732212212Looking like a cheap mobile phone game is not aiming low. It is a matter of being unable to make something interesting in terms of aesthetics.
>we are gorillion years in the future in space on spaceships with mechs and shiet>what do our troops look like>>uhh what about like modern US muhreens with assault rifles and kevlar body armor and shit color skinThis is so boring, why do they always do this now
>>732213194>MENACE devs are finally trying something differentFucking where? It is one of the most derivative tactics games around, it literally doesn't do anything new or interesting. It can't even hold candle to Silent Storm.
>>732211039me, especially if I hear them every 20 secondssome characters have really annoying voice and only few lanesseriously I would prefer having typical choose their face plus set of voice lines, add some pregenerated and semi generated plus random characters to spice shit up
>finally learn how to be good at Battle BrothersNow I get it, I can walk up to a big late game horde of Orc Warriors, Barbarian Chosen, Noble army and survive without a single injury and full of fat loot.Also posting the best theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpvByatWes
>>732213368huh? most games have space marines in futuristic power armor and shit. this is the only game where it's just normal marines but in space. it's definitely a lot more grounded
>>732213194This seems reductive. Even boiling it down to the 2ap system very few recent TBT games feel like they play the same as xcom, different gimmicks, linear stories over campaigns and generated missions, so on.
>>732211309>>as it was in the demo game has zero fucking reason to be scifi, it barely has any interesting gadgets or gear to work with, it could be ww2 game for all intents and purposes>>maps actively suck being flat boards with uninteractable obstacles the only elevation was emplacement towers and even that barely counts>>square grid movement fucking sucks, we had two decades of skirmish wargames with freeform movement>>weapons are boring as fuck and can't even be customized to the silly extent of needing to find variant of the same gun if you want scope or silencer on itagree
>>732211475>the combat is so chaoticHOLY CHROMOSOME DEFICIENCY BATMAN
>>732209527yeah and to think the devs used to be based just hurts even more
>>732212540>There's still some haters for Warframe.That's because the warframe developers used to spend a lot of time here, crabbucketry overrides all forms of acceptance.
>>732211596it have its charm and it show clearly what armor and equipment your and enemy side havegraphic style is the last problem of BB
>>732213756That for the ESL shill post
>>732212727>but X-COM is the gold standard of turn strategy gamesNTA and I am not happy with Menace but seriously anon, just STFU if you don't know WTF you are talking about
>>732208309Demo or release when?I am especially interested in operational level and global map things as combat demo was quite solid back then.
>>732213194>unique gameplay designsanon, that is essentially PC version of tabletop war sim and not even very well done
>>732213847fuck off you illiterate mongrel
>>732210482Sure does seem like the usual slop eaters are latching onto it
>>732214010im aware, that's why im so interested in it since it's trying to bring the tabletop points and army systems to a proper pc game
>>732211450because you wanted a casual mobile version of xcom
>>732210546>European government fundingYeah, I'm not touching this.
>>732211309>maps actively suck being flat boards with uninteractable obstacles the only elevation was emplacement towers and even that barely countsYeah, unless they changed from the beta, all they do is give a stat boost. Anything that blocks LOS will still keep blocking it since the game doesnt consider you guys on top of tower to be above anything else, like a wall for example, because there seems to not be any kind of elevation/height system in game.
>>732214123in my personal opinion the way they try to implement it is completely off tho, we will see but I have little hope >>732214152>>European government fundinggerman tax payer paying for this
>>732214180hopefully this is what the EA is for so that they can change things based off community feedback. i have faith in the devs after seeing how they handled battle bros ea
>>732214180yeah it sucked dick, not mention that you can't move through your own vehicles(as infantry) or infantry(if you try to move your own vehicle), many things like enemy abandoned/destroyed vehicles or piles of trash block movement and there is plenty of buildings that you can't enter anyway
>>732208309mars tactics dev was so humble telling everyone that there is no way he could be even mentioned next to menace but it turns out his game has much more depth and interesting ideashope he doesnt fuck up the release
>>732214329>i have faith in the devs after seeing how they handled battle bros eaheh, completely the opposite
>>732214389some steam users even called him on his humble bragging, kekdev is pure nip
>>732214357>waaaah why can't i phase through vehicles and walls and piles of debris
>>732214492what about walking through or over or under? stop crying like a little baby, it make you look like complete retard
>>732214357Lets not forget the real fucking MANACE in the game
>>732214492Anon you know you can go over or under obstacles, right? You can even get on obstacles and sit there, crazy i know.
>>732208551Jagged Alliance 2 is probably my favorite game of all time, I first played it during the winter break in 2003 (I was 13 years old) where it was already considered ancient (Max Payne 2 came out around that time, for comparison). I could pick it up today and have a blast. I just realized it it came out today, it would be considered #woke by the same people who hate wokeness just as bad as me. Grim
>>732214669i agree, you should be able to but it should take more AP
>>732214656is that a fucking fence?>>732214492have funny situation when my towered squad couldn't move because enemy car exploded at the gate
>>732214718JA3 was released not long ago, you fight and kill french negroes there, guess what
>>732214874>your squad
>>732212674Are you one of those woman hating gaylords who would send all women to camps if you didn't need them for reproduction or are you just afraid of the Indians making fun of you when you can't handle Cheyenne sauce. >>732213043...huh, I didn't think about that but Menace is a lot closer to Advanced Wars than X-Com.
>>732214735I am dreaming of someone making legally distinct Infinity videogame, but seems all we get is 80s era boardgames as far as tactics concerned. 7.62 was probably the most recent attempt at propelling genre forwards and that was decade and some ago.
>>732214957nobody called it woke, its filled cringe humor tho
I hate the fact that any gun that doesn't have armor piercing is fucking useless
>>732208287>can't make your own dudesDa fuck? I put hope for mods or the option to mod it myself. That's half the fun out the window right there.
>>732214957I got gaslit into playing JA3 by /v/ because MD asks if he can call Ice "my nigga". I almost barfed by the time I got done hiring my mercs and finished the first combat encounter. The dialog is literally a combination of Boredomlands 3 and Saarfield. The anon who recommended it to me never played JA2. I paid the price of a decent frozen pizza for it and I'm still mad
>>732215107But anon, you can rename your cannon fodder squadmates that you can replace for free! Isn't that great? Doesn't matter that you're stuck with a sassy negro as a squad leader!
>>732215073im sure there will be some guns that have low ap, but high damage that will be useful against unarmored enemies
>>732215190>that you can replace for freeYou can't actually, there is total recruitment pool and if you run out you are shit out of luck.
>>732215190getting bad vibes from this game, I'll wait for the /v/erdict
>>732215238Unarmored enemies in the demo were a non-issue with any weapon
Wages of War came out 30 years ago and looks much more fun and interesting to play.All games look like sanitized mobile crap.
>>732215345>in the demohmm maybe the early access and eventual full release will have more types of enemies?
>>732207639pic unrelated
>>732215473Imagine arming your guy with a Vz61 unironically
>>732215473never heard about Wages of War but I learned2 C:DDA last year, I'm sure I can get into this too.
>>732215578please understand they're underfunded
>>732208287fpbp
>>732215646CDDA is an awesome game, you should try the Bright Nights branch if you prefer more scifi stuff and less autism like pockets
>>732208102>>732207639>Saw the trailer. >"Oh wow this looks cool >Look into it >Its a turn base base builder with woke shit>It isn't a fast pace RTS like the trailerThat being said. Who played it and are you having fun with it?
>>732207639I finished the demo 3 timesI hope It will be worth the pirate until -50%
>>732215852i've played and enjoyed the demo. the game seems to have a great foundation and im looking forward to seeing it get fleshed out
>>732215852i played modded demo, liked the loop of doing missions and getting loot and exp but actual combat missions were mid and most premade characters were annoying
>>732215885if you're gonna pirate it anyways why even get it when goes 50% off
>>732215909>>732215946Hmmm. ok, I might check it out if it is easily moddable.
can't wait to commit war crimes with this chigga
>>732215970I'm NEETing now so I want to buy it when I'm back to waging and no time for games
>>732216073there were mods for demo>>732216105war crimes department is already taken(left guy)
>>732216073based on how many mods there are for battle bros, this game will probably be very mod friendly too
>>732213558It is less grounded to be wearing non-airtight clothing that is made for any sudden depressurization and other hazards.
>>732216535what are you gonna do, call OSHA?
>game trailer shows heavily armored space troopers conducting a raid on a facility>ingame nothing uses that art style>nothing in game has gameplay even reminiscent of itWhy?
>>732216823there's power armor and laser weaponry late game. what you're seeing from early gameplay is the low level stuff
>>732215578Your accountant lectures you after the missions if you spend too much on weapons and ammo (and extra for hospital bill/death).
>>732216329>based on how many mods there are for battle bros, this game will probably be very mod friendly tooreminder that mods were against BB devs wishesin BB EA devs were talking about that they want mods etc but it was found that most game files were encoded precisely to prevent that and modding only become possible because some Spaniard broken encryption and then threaten that he will do it again if necessary
>>732216881i think he means the niggers and other assorted colored folks prominently featured in the early game
I honestly think i've participated in dev thread trying to ad this game.No one fucking defends a demo game thats not out this personally than some here.The game is boring, looks uninspired, has no tactical or meaningful decisions. You guys should go back to drawing board.
>>732214718This lol. Don't forget that X-Com lets you to have "diverse" squads with woman soldiers but /v/ doesn't have a problem with the games.Hell, when the new Ace Combat game got announced these turd world underages were screeching that "t-the series went woke!!!" after seeing a woman pilot and a colored one. I also got a good chuckle out of one of them saying the series "got westernised".They don't play videogames, learn to ignore them.
>>732217003don't worry, the minority races are only low level stuff. as you progress you will get more and more proper aryan squad leaders
>>732217102different people have different tastes anon, shocking i know
>>732217102>I honestly think i've participated in dev thread trying to ad this game.>No one fucking defends a demo game thats not out this personally than some here.No, you're talking with fans of the studio who were familiar with the game for months already. The level of cluelessness ITT is genuinely hilarious. Reminds me of how Battle Bros threads on /v/ are always equally retarded, on /vst/ or /vrpg/ they're chill and comfy but the moment you post Battle Bros on /v/ it's all "OMG WAT DIS IT LOOK SOOO BAD AND UGLY THIS SHILL THREAD SAARS???"Normalfags are funny.
>>732216932why are so many game devs against increasing the lifespan of their own games? doesn't make much sense to me.I can kind of understand it, if modders (and mod-users) keep whining at you every time you update your game and it breaks mods etc., but otherwise it just seems like such a win-win to me. and even then, the replayability that mods add to games makes enduring this whine seem worth it
>>732208287spbp
>>732207639>early accessI sleep. And I am tired of this bullshit.
>>732217390dlc, sequels, krautism
>>732217103x-com is basically a power rangers level cartoon (I literally dress up my guys as colour-coded power rangers depending on their role), this game seems to be trying for a more gritty realism aesthetic where women mostly undermine it. blacks don't undermine it though, for obvious reasons of them being overrepresented in militaries everywhere so it's realistic. and also black guys are cool in this aesthetic, simple as. unless they go full politically correct trope-subversion and make the black guy(s) soft-spoken faggots, they're usually the most fun characters in these games.
>>732217140>more proper aryan squad leaderssay no more
>>732217442im giving these guys the benefit of the doubt though since they did a "proper" early access with BB. it's not gonna be one of those ea for 5 years type games with barely any changes
>>732212032>fire cant go through solid objects either.Heat can and will though, especially well through metal. It's kind of like baking a potato quicker in a fire by wrapping it in tinfoil, except the tinfoil is the tank and the potatoes are people. >was basicaly considered the same a garrisonable building when it came down to flamethrows.I'd certainly rather be in a tank than a standard building when getting hit with a flamethrower for a short period, but the problem with tanks and fire is getting your treads destroyed and then getting cooked over a long period of time. When the heat gets unbearable people start to bail and then they get captured or killed.
>>732209036I'm kind of in agreement with this...But lets see how it turns out.
>>732217642the only male black squad leader in the game currently is a generic meathead who maxed out his STR stat and dual wields heavy weapons. so yeah pretty fun
>>732217853
>>732217642>this game seems to be trying for a more gritty realism aestheticoh yeah the gritty realism of spaceships traveling through planets killing aliens with mechs
The demo had no soul. I could pick a game from late 90s that plays and worst of all: looks better.
>>732217983That's not hard when Chaos Gates still dabs on most of the tactics genre since its release.
>>732217921you struggle with a lot of things in life, don't you?
>>732217102hooded horse is well known for these shill campaigns>but muh battle brothersthis shit is nothing like bb, its a slop version of bb with fucking niggers and jeets
>>732214998I'm not the one you're responding to but i'd like to interject.I'm successful with women, somewhat due to luck because im good looking, but also engage with a few team combat sports.Male on Male comradery is completely different when there is girls involved. It would be nearly impossible for you to understand since you don't play sports. When we won national championships a teammate of mine who i saved from probably getting injured kissed me on the forehead. Pretty gay i admit. But thats how high you get off of battle. You would never in a million years do that with a platonic girl teammate. Human males are genetically programed for warfare as much as we're programmed to be around others and operate in groups. If you just be intellectually honest, you would admit that these war groups would be 100% men. Winning in battle and defeating your enemies is one of the greatest primal highs in life right up next to fucking you oneitis crush after two months of her holding off. So when nerd game developers. And fucking loser tranny leftists, who do nothing with their lives but work in some gay office, try to tell me why does it matter i know automatically they're fucking retarded. Women pretend to want to be involved in these male groups, but what they actually want is attention from males that can defeat other males. Because women's attraction goes > security > attraction > arousalWhere as male goes>attraction > arousal.>why does it matter...Back to the office prajeet.
>>732216658No need, all it takes is one fire to light the place up and every single one of them will do anything possible to ditch the loose clothing and replace it with full body kevlar (note: kevlar is fire resistant and a retardant) and an air tank with a mask.
>>732210017ha. Valid point.I wouldn't call this woke, but there are too many women in this warfare setting.
>>732217348>yum yum yum I love slop glory to isrealYou don’t belong here tourist
Blacks mean no buy
>>732215238>>732215507The problem is that low damage, high AP weapons will always mog high damage low AP guns with how the system is set up. You can see it right now with things like the ARC or shotgun in the demo. They put guys down as fast, or slower, than guns like the KPAC or Crowbar. Especially since we're talking a difference of like 3-4 HP points on guns that fire multiple shots per burst and each projectile that hits does damage against people who have 5-20 HP. The current EA build has bugs and stuff with models that have big HP pools over that, but they also often have armor which completely negates the whole point of low AP high damage. They're just always gonna be less valuable inherently.
>>732218375It's a new game from the devs of battle brothers and we knew about it for a long while. They also initially wanted to make a game like this years ago before they failed and went back to make more BB content.>>732217642LolThe X-Com reboots took it seriously despite being cheesy and the tone of OG Xcom was pretty serious too. This board would cry about OG enemy unknown from the 90's being woke 100%.>>732219016>y-you're a tourist if you don't want to join my outrage campaign led by people who know nothing about the game!!!Hilarious.
>>732219352You are racist
i feel sad for the people who can't enjoy games because theres a black person or a woman in it. completely mindbroken
This game looks like pure slopPlays like slopCore game mechanics are slopThe setting looks like slopThe aesthetics like the way the weapons and vehicles look is slop. Why the fuck are we flying around a space ship while everyone is using assault rifle brand assault rifles and wearing modern day US muhreen tacticool vest brand tacticool vestsAnd finally the characters are jeeted out of the ass, they cashed a fat check from Blackrock to make this
>>732220404>that skin>that hair>that facethat is quadroon at best
>>732207639Funny I got a shill video for this yesterday and the title was "skip XCOM 3"...when this gay shit is nothing like xcom at all..btw if the creator of this vid is in here please go fuck yourself
>>732220459What are they really missing out on? I can't think of any high tier games that have a nigger in the main cast. >>732220404Everyone is racist, and that's a good thing.
>>732220535Please understand, they made it with German government money, they had to include all the diverse Germanic people, such as Indians and Africans
>>732220535they got 1mln European dollars from kraut government
>slop slop slop slop>why does it not look like star wars waaaaaaah why are they not shooting lasers waaaaaahTry playing videogames sometime, you may enjoy it.>>732220620>enters the thread to bitch that he watches ecelebslol
>>732220681NTA but be serious nigger, only e-celebes and YT shills have access to the game nowwhat do you want to talk about?
>>732207639I don't do ea. Waiting for pathbreakers and tactics returners. Maybe even mars tactics. All the others seem mid at best.
>>732220639you forgot about my game nigga?
>>732212193diversity is yo...ur our strength thoughbig melting pot is good for everyone
>>732208287>can't make your own dudes, stuck with a bunch of premade negroes and jeetsNo generics, no buy
>>732220892lol, lmao.
>>732220797There is a demo on steam.
>>732211324>introducing anything newLike?
>>732220872>tactics returnersAnything else on the trpg horizon?
>>732220797I would want clueless newfags who know nothing about the game to fuck off and stop bitching about "le woke". Because calling this game "woke" also implies you'd bitch in the same way over Ace Combat, Xcom or Jagged Alliance.
>>732221057Tactical dildo attachments.
>>732207639Sorry OP, but Lancer Tactics is coming out this year.
>>732220660>>732220667That explains why it's so soulless. The whole "dropping elite squads of black woman RPG-7 troopers from a scifi spaceship" shit feels like an AI prompt hallucination.
>>732212727>X-COM is the gold standard of turn strategy gamesHoly shit hahahahahahaImagine proudly declaring you consider nu-xcom to be a "gold standard".
>>732207639>menace Feb 5, 2026>circle empires 2 Feb 9, 2026>mewgenics Feb 10, 2026Good start
>>732221151St4am? Is this xcom but with mechs? Like kriegsfornt tactics?
>>732221151If you want to ragebait /v/ you have to do it more blatantly. Not everyone knows that Lancer is an unironic trans rights communism game.
>>732221196>it's souless because I have no testosterone and don't even play tactics gamesOh, /v/.
>>732221125NTA, but I'm going to pirate Mars Tactics and Symphony of War 2 as soon as they release. I'll buy them if they turn out to be good.
>>732221125Mewgenics if you are into that sort of things. Front mission 3 remake released a few days ago.
>>732220998yes and? everyone interested already played it to death>>732221129just stop feeding them you fucking idiot, funny is ''fans'' like you always feed them when ignore reasonable concerns
>>732207639Demo was pretty bad>squads instead of individual dudes, like XCOM>niggers and pajeets everywhere>roguelike elementsMeh
>>732221265It's based on a TTRPG so the combat is very wargamey, that said I don't know what structure the Tactics videogame will have. It will be on Steam sometime this year.>>732221287True, I probably should've used pic related.
>>732221151>Lancer Tactics>Be gay // do giant robot crimes. A mecha tactics game adapted from the Lancer TTRPG (under its third-party license).eh what?
>>732221432>it's bad because it's not like nu-xcom!Sigh.
>>732221479Looks like shit.
>>732221432This, also the "characters" ruin the sandbox approach. But people have been pointing this out ever since the feature was announced and the devs just turned into crybabies. "Please give us a chance!!"No, fuck off. I wanted BB in space, and not"Virtue signaling: pajeets story".
>>732221241>circle empires 2funny, I remember my comment asking ''is this game is like upgraded megalomania back from amiga'' getting deleted
>>732207639I have a certain amount of hair pulling frustration Im willing to tolerate. Chaos Gate and the new xcom games were good in that regard. Challenging but fair, at least on the higher difficulties. I have concerns this one will just be ball busting to a degree im too old to enjoy anymore but I guess we will see.
>>732221571Its just not very interesting when youre not controlling individual dudes, sorry
>>732221129>Because calling this game "woke" also implies you'd bitch in the same way over Ace Combat, Xcom or Jagged Alliance.My favourite Ace Combat games don't have niggers so I don't know what you're hallucinating about. And in JA it was a choice. You could blow up a banana republic with a white power squad if you wanted to. Never played niggercom. :^)
>>732221751we have taste in demo with rocket truck and pirates getting free move when dismounting from trucks and that is just noob faction, the local rogue imperial like guard is suppose to have artillery, mortars and stugs
>>732221559Much like every other big modern TTRPG, it has been coopted by trannies and their allies. It's a fun system and ironically very anti-leftist (the Union are colonizers and they have sentient slave robots they call NHPs or Non-Human Persons).
>>732214998You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded
>>732221297Very sceptical about sow2. Honestly, not much hope for Mt, too. Tactics Returners is the best bet. The rogie~ ones like lost Eidolons aso might turn out mid.
>>732221317>MewgenicsNah, not really. I want war.>fm3rI've heard the remakes are atrocious.
>>732218426Did an AI write this? Sounds like it was stolen from some sort of incel manifesto. Wait, is this entire post Copypasta? It's so vague it could be copypasta.
>>732221297same
>>732221479Every trpg looks like shit.
>>732221929I'm not the one that wants to look at men and only men for my entire playthrough.
>>732220681>>why does it not look like star wars waaaaaaah>nigger, women, jeetsbut it looks exactly like star wars
>>732221892That's the leftest anit left propaganda I've ever... Heard of? Is it meta, is it anti anti?
>>732221875Hence my concern. I feel the game will throw genuine no win scenarios at you and you just have to accept them. BB had a very steep learning curve but this game seems to be overall more complex which means more can go wrong.
Reminder that this level of clueless, attention seeking newfaggery is something you just HAVE to endure with /v/. They're only seeking to jump on marketable hype bandwagons for highly popular BIG BRAND games released by celebrity names they can recognize. They absoluely do NOT tolerate anything related to smaller fanbases, niche fandoms or indies. They already pulled shit like this with Pizza Tower, Fuga, Fear and Hunger, Rift of the Necrodancer, Book of Hours and that new RPG from cultist simulator devs, the new Ace Combat game etc. Just screaming about "slop", "shilling" and "le woke" while being loudly and openly clueless.
>>732221265Unless they're really, really generous with the combat system it's going to be completely boring dogshit. LANCER's combat is fucking miserably boring.>>732222173Anon is thinking about it more deeply than the authors. You have to understand that the current anarcho-communist government in LANCER is portrayed as the objective good guys in the actual writing.
I guess this thread has the best chance of being able to answer my questions.Any tips for trouble shooter? Picked it up on the sale and havent really had time to get into it but have been hankering for something like it.Any noob traps to watch out for? Mechanics that arent especially obvious but are important?Strong characters to focus on?
>>732222287can't help you, there is usually thread on /vst/personally i don't like it, too grindy and bloated, qt girls tho
>>732222249>objective good guys in the actual writingOh shit!>anon is thinking > devs 'thinking'Why is this a thing? Is ai the last coffin nail to sapience?
>>732222249>Unless they're really, really generous with the combatFuck it, have to play tactics ogre for two decades.
>>732222197wait they really pulled this shit with funger too? looking at /v/ now i would have thought they supported it from the beginning
>>732209553I like the girlboss black chick with a literal BLACK SPADE for a patch. Thats legit racist lol
>>732222713I definitely recall /v/ermin were pretty clueless and screaming about trannies, slop and shilling when termina was coming out
>>732222067do you get paid per post?
phoenix point was better and that shit was boring slop, cyberknights is the only one I fucks with
>>732222828funny how they did a complete 180 on that game now that it's pretty beloved. wouldn't be surprised if the people shitting on it now end up doing the same thing with menace
>>732223101V/ changed its users within few years. Only gays and fags are left
>>732213708>based lol most artists are either liberal or trying to take your money shilling. Underrail is a rare exception
>>732222173Basically what >>732222249 said, I think it's one of those cases where they didn't realize what they were doing.The Union is a post-scarcity society Earth and what they decide to do with their free time is spread Union control and "liberate" other world. They also have sentient AI that is literally Shackled so it obeys the Lancers that use them and are routinely "cycled" (reset) so they don't get uppity and out of control.
>>732220620is this shooped?who's this insipid cunt of a poster child for "Ugly thoughts turn you ugly on the outside"?
>>732213497>he doesn't turn off the voices
>>732223578I prefer play games when I do not need to do that>>732223556use lens next timeits Captain Marvel 2, sloppest marvel slop, or so I heard(never watched)
The problem for me with Battle Brothers was similar to Darkest Dungeon; the campaign difficulty is almost entirely informed by how much of a repetitive grind replacing a guy is. It's so expensive, but gold isn't engaging to grind up. It's just caravan after caravan until you hit critical mass and can actually go attack places with a decent chance of success and some cheese shit set up to not break everyone's armour so you actually have some loot to sell. This loop completely undermines what should be an engaging game.
>>732222197All of this unironically dates back to TORtanic btw. Game looks like shit anyway>>732220639This board is full of zoomers who grew up with walking dead, grand theft nog, halo, and I guess Deus Ex 1 somewhat counts if you simp for the illuminati
>>732207639it looks interesting, i hope it successful cause i want to try full version
>>732223818they made a second movie???? damn, it's really not about the money anymore, is it. pol was right.
>>732214718Every creation is a product of its time and context. "Woah imagine if Triump of the Will was released today?!"
>>732224025To be fair they had plenty of cash to burn through. Now that they are running out, they are quietly cancelled the messaging.
>>732221151>>732221287>>732221559oh
>>732207639But I still haven't properly played Battle Bros yet.
>>732225442>a clearheaded system of tactical combat with roots in D&D 4eKEK you can tell you're about to read some dogshit before the really bad part even starts
>>732213951Mars Tactics had an early alpha demo last year or the year before during a Steam Next Fest, they might participate again in the next Next Fest in a more polished state.
>>732224025It’s always been that way they just had shit like blackrock and usaids giving them money so the could take the loss
>>732207639looks shitwhy would i play this instead of starting another modded battle brothers campaign?
>>732207639>early accessCool. Ill check again when it comes out.
>>732207639Looks neat. Enjoyed the demo.Cover system/los not entirely intuitive tho.Didn't mind the jeeta
So do you guys just not consume any sci-fi media when you complain about seeing a non-white person in such media? Like 99% of sci-fi media is "humanity is united against galactic threats"
>>732228521>humanity is united against galactic threatsThat was old sci-fi media. New sci-fi media is>humanity is united (into brown sludge)
>>732228632Humanity being united in old sci-fi media generally involved black and brown people.
>>732222435LANCER long predates AI, it's just terminal marxism poisoning.
>>732229360>marxismthere is nothing Marxist about these freaks
>>732225442>Look up LANCER tactics>It's just a 1:1 port of the combat system with basic pixel artWelp, worse tactics game of 2026 is already lined up it seems.
>>732208309May cannot come soon enough. Decided to check on their progress today and its looking pretty good. I saw a clip of drones picking up guns on the field and delivering them to player units, and enemies picking up guns and ammo on the field too utilize. I thought I couldn't be any more excited.
>>732229595I seen drone chasing and exploding a man, no I wasn't visiting /pol/ or /k/Its looking pretty good especially with strategic layer
>>732222920Do you? Nothing you post has anything to do with what you're replying to. Typical NPC behavior.
>>732229409Marxists have nothing to do. With Marxism. Same goes for (neo) keynesians.
>>732228632Did you actually fall for the race meme?
>>732207639I really want it to be good but after playing the demo when it released I also know that it still needs some more time in the oven.I'll probably buy it shortly before EA ends.
>>732229595>drones>artillery>transforming battlefields>diplomacy>base building>gorilla warfaremars tactics is unironically my most hyped game this year
>>732230621they call themselves marxists(or whatever), same as trannies call themselves womenneither of them are real thingboth are disease of bourgeoise
>>732230840do not hype, devs ask for zero hypeno hype = no disappointmenttemper yourself and your expectation
>>732208309>look it up>it actually looks way better in every wayEmbarrassing.
>>732226853did they say anything about another demo? I thought steam forbids participating in multiple next fests
>>732211525That's NuCom. In good old Xcom you use human wave tactics to break the aliens morale before they do yours, then wipe the floor with them. In NuCom aliens can't even panic naturally. The only way to panic them is with a psi attack.
>>732231967you could also used explosives and just flatten the map(or at last barns)
>>732207639I tried the demo and it didn't feel great. Something is off and I didn't care to keep playing to figure it out. Hope you enjoy it.
>>732231547Apparently devs have loophole'd their games into multiple fests by updating their demo each time, though I'm not sure to what extent since you still have to submit it to Steam for verification, meaning they might not overlook an update consisting of a few typo corrections.
>>732231020He was related to rothschild, I think. He found out later or something. AFAIK the major of London was his cousin, too.
>>732233608yeah and communism was a try on going back to saturnian times anywayRED Planet time
>>732231020after ww1 it changed
>>732234069eh, I would say it changed massively after 2nd ww when OSS/CIA taken over frankfurt schoolideology was always a spook
>>732231020Cope marxism as always been a gay jewish creation
>>732211596>>732213847low testBattle brothers is based
>>732234452nope, it become gay when it was adopted by western and especially american cucks(bourgeoise), pederasty and faggotry always was bourgeoise and conservative viceanyway
Is this the game witb brown female military leaders? If so, NO
>>732207639Mewgenics doesn't release until the 10th, though.
>>732221479jap artists are a literal shame on the earth at this point every good one is slaveing for some niggergachasimulator making 600k$ a month drawing polaroids into some dogshit interpolation software CcccCHHHHTUHHH!!! how the fuck does a 2man team make brigador where they render shadows and sparkles and explosions on a fucking 2d surface that was rendered in 180 fucking degrees and then seamlessly flipped look 1000000 times better than this """new""" game sunpeople better step up if they dont want gooks to take over their pathetic country
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>>732208287>>can't make your own dudes, stuck with a bunch of premade negroes and jeetsabsolutely retarded decision by the devs, I have no idea what these fags were thinking.
>>732234702>lenin the jew The Russian revolution was created by jews to get revenge on Russia for pogroms and massacred 60 million. They also helped fund gays, trannies, and third world massacres of whites. You are a literal zogbot approaching miga levels
>>732210434Late WW2 tanks were already basically impervious to fire based weapons. A dude with a flamethrower would die long before he would have been able to do anything against a tank. Flamethrowers were obsolete anyways shortly after WW2 with proliferation of light infantry rocket weapons (LAW, RPG etc.)
>>732235137heh, it was created by german HQ and blessed by Kaiser Willy and funded by both imperial german and american money gays and trannies were and are funded by usAIDS moneyyou are literal illiterate, retard and zogbot beyond puny miga levels
>>732225442>>732226428>it's like D&D4eLancer plays nothing like D&D4e.t. /tg/'s single D&D 4e fanboy.
>>732234008Distant cousins, just checked.Is this mars tactics? Am I the only one waiting for tactics returners
>>732235412>t. /tg/'s single D&D 4e fanboy.I'm so sorry, anon.
>>732212032Put your hand into a metal can after you held it over an open fire for some 20 seconds and report on your experiences.
>>732212727X-COM is dogshit that killed the sensible action point growth progression and character development systems in favor of "two actions to hump high or medium cover, let's roll the dice on point blank shots" trash.
>>732228521Anons simply cannot explain themselves right, but the fundamental problem with the so called "woke" writing is that it's fucking cringe.Watching some black dude do cool shit like in the blade movies won't get anyone calling it "woke" despite the fact that the hero was a black dude and the villains were literally all white.Because it wasn't cringe.Then you go watch literally any modern movie with a black guy as the lead, and it's fucking cringe so people lash out at it.
>>732235437>Is this mars tactics?yes>tactics returnerslook nice but somewhat chinky, is it or not?anywaylook at them go
>>732235610It's fine, I have 3 friends willing to play D&D 4e with me so even if the entire world is against me, I can still happily play 4e.
>>732208718pass, every TRPG with static characters has been awful
>early accessNo thanks. Give me a call maybe when it's actually finished.
>>732235771>mars tactics>it's two actions trash instead of action point kinodamn
>>732235771Better than menace.I think it's not Asian, but anime style, which is fine. Technically, jrpg are anime~ish. Troubleshooter is chinky.
>>732235632Composite armour is pretty good insulator. Flamethrowers in sci-fi in general are dumb because they've been obsolete since the 50's
>>732235908>2 action point slop>better than menace
>>732235864it have suppression and initiative system that grant extra actions(or something)
>>732236080It has*, systems*, esl shitskin.
>>732236058>has premade characters>gay>no generics>no customizationLooks like shit for now
>>732236174There's nothing wrong with not having premade characters. You are not playing a gay faggot mmo where you get to dress up your girl character, retard.
>>732236058>pre-made character wokeslop vs 2 action slopBoth are badI shall be playing neither.
>>732236058desu Menace is like two and half action point system in practice, you can't even shoot team leader weapon together with team weapon >>732236058it have real strategic layer instead of instanced roguelite operationsit have generics instead of limited premade charactersit have gun customisation>>732236263then don't
>>732236297>then don'tI shall still come to every thread about either game to shit on them.
>>732207639>early accessYuck
>>732236357why?don't you have better things to do?
>>732236464No good tactics game is coming out to occupy my time.
>>732236541such sad state of affairs, its still a bad excuse and a waste of time
>>732236261>no you HAVE to play our GAY charactersounds gay anon
>>732236261it's not about playing doll retard, it's about feeling attached to your soldiers
>>732208287>>can't make your own dudesDropped
>>732236297>two and half action point system in practice, you can't even shoot team leader weapon together with team weaponWhy would they go with this?>>732237553I doubt he's capable of following this logic
>>732207639eh not really impressed by the demo>pirate gets on high ground>height advantage is so good he proceeds to mow down my dudes with very little counterplay>because of the way the cover spawned, the counterplay was letting the dude with the machine gun target them from 5 blocks away and plink them out for 5 turns while the rest of the team looked at flanks>nope, rockets don't do anything, getting in range of anything that isn't a sniper meant standing in the open field and immediately getting grenaded and supressed>just back and forth of 2 squads in cover trading blows until one of them ran out of dudesthe squad system doesn't seem to do anything too interesting aside from sometimes your dude with the special weapon gets hit so you don't have it anymore, and it just serves to hide the basic tactics level stuff.
Holy shit mars tactics shills in overdrive. Why tho
>>732239371They are judeo bolsheviks trying to shill their game to fund tranny surgeries
>>732239329>nope, rockets don't do anything, getting in range of anything that isn't a sniper meant standing in the open field and immediately getting grenaded and supressedThis was a skill issue, sorry to say. You can level towers with rockets and focused fire. Grenades, flamethrowers, sniper rifles and other cover ignoring weapons will kill the guys inside reliably, and special weapons guys are always squad leads so they can't actually be hit unless the squad gets taken out or someone has a special ability that does that.
>>732239665that's weird, I had my special weapon out of comission despite the squad still living. I dunno; I tried using the rocket sub weapons and the rocket one uses but trying to aim at the tower just gave me an X despite having enough AP and having ample LoS. I figured it was a range problem maybe but as I mentioned, the way cover spawned meant that getting closer would mean getting chunked by the tower dudes
I am looking forward to this flopping so they can return their focus to making more Battle Brothers content. I cant imagine what they were thinking when they decided to make a linear experience after making one of the best sandbox tactical games ever.
>>732214718>I just realized it [Jagged Alliance 2] came out today, it would be considered #woke by the same people who hate wokeness just as bad as me. Grim> retards who are not capable of understanding satire and comedy consider "selling" one of your female mercenaries into sexual slavery with marriage to Daryl and the Hicks as being "woke"But then again, they would have to actually play the game longer than 5 minutes to reach that point. Case being: Never argue with the retards.Ira is definitely annoying enough to be considered "woke" but this is JA2. There's no magical force fields or guard rails of "the plot" keeping anyone safe... If the character has hitpoints, they can and will die.>>732217642>x-com is basically a power rangers level cartoonX-Com Apocalypse literally is.
>>732239861>that's weird, I had my special weapon out of comission despite the squad still living.Fairly certain one of the pirates in the demo has that ability. So that's probably why.>I figured it was a range problem maybeIt was a range problem, being above your target iirc doesn't even give you a to-hit bonus. Just 1 point extra range on your weapon and 2 extra tiles of vision. So it was sounding like you were running through an open field without cover and paying for it.
>>732207639>coming soon to early accessyawn, wake me up when it actually releases
>>732240294well, not on purpose, but the guys in the thing had grenades so I tried to walk up in cover and then got blown up for it, destroying the cover which meant I could no longer walk up to it. So multi turn plinking battle it was
>>732208287Yeah I don't know what they were thinking when they replaced player made characters with brown wome—Actually, never mind, I know exactly what they were thinking.
>>732228796Look at star wars, Star Gate, BSG, there were almost no non-whites.
>>732240437Again, it sounds like you were ill equipped and got filtered. Crowbar, sniper rifle, one of the bigger rocket launchers, GL, MMG, ESAW, smoke, combat drugs, the APC or just going around are all things you start with that would've solved the problem without a plinking battle.
>>732208102I can't tell if this guy is making a joke or not
>see multiple mentions of Mars Tactics>look it up>see graphics>checks yearnah i'm good dog
>>732215852I was kind of disappointed to see it's basically just XCOM. I was hoping for something closer to Alien Dark Descent where it's real time RTS with pause/slowdown.
>>732237553I felt attached to my mercs in JA2 and in Silent Storm. If you're one of those retards that has to smear your ego over everything or you can't get immersed, it's your problem.
>>732242918>real time with pause>just end up pausing all the time for optimal play which is more annoying than playing a proper turn based game.Worst of both worlds imo. Pick a lane.
