>actual video of House speaking>not just an image of Househow do you fuck this up?
>>732213481By being a lazy non-canon cash in piece of shit?
>>732213594One and done
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>>732213481Imagine caring
>>732213594>LazyMaking it a still image would be easier.And the reason they just used still images in NV was technical.
>>732214432It's funny how often I hear this now.Just straight up the shills lost everyone knows this show shit all over canon and the best argument you have left is>Why do you care about Fallout? Fucking loser.
>>732214506>And the reason they just used still images in NV was technical
is it a good or bad sign if the streaming service uploads a whole episode for free to another streaming service?
>>732214564The Good Stories have been toldNo expanded media can change that, Nor it can recreate itSo whatever happens, does not matter to me
>>732214646That's just the first episode.
I bet the actor would throw a fit if he had to deliver a decent performance with only his voice so they signed up a contract where he can look like a retard on screen
>>732215012they uploaded the entire first season on youtube. here's the playlisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKDDkFt4W0&list=PLWz2DO39R-NX9gYByO7231inaftQYqI8v
>>732213481Considering how advanced technology actually is in Fallout, it's kind of unbelievable that House's depiction in the game is just a still image rather than some sort of Live2D vtuber model of his own face in the first place. Anyway, of all the things to bitch about that are in this show, that is not it, man.
>>732213481only reason it's a still image in New Vegas is because of the restraints of the timemaking it a video feed is an improvement
>>732213481To be fair it never made much sense for House to only be a still image when the Fallout world tech is so advanced and House had secret Robco and Repconn. It's mostly a relic of FO1/2, which were made in the 80-90s when the devs couldn't envision a proper high-tech universe.
>>732215958/thread
>>732214358don't forget the tomgirl threads and futa threads
>>732213481holy shit it's Zac Efron
>>732213481Hello old cum.
>>732213481>actual video of House speaking>.pngYou had one job anon.
>>732215191This. Same reason there's a "camera" inside IronMan's suit and why no character in any film keeps their helmet on for more than half a scene.They paid for the actor to be their marketing, they gotta show his face.
>>732213481Wasn't his monitor blue in the game?
>>732218779New mandela effect dropped.
>>732219379?Doesn't look green to me
>>732215958House is much more than just a man by the time we meet him in New Vegas. He's become a symbol of Vegas. Reducing him to a zoom call on a big screen disarms him immediately and ruins the later reveal that he's just human like everyone else >>732214614
>>732215958>restraintsThey could just project an NPC thats outside the map onto the screen with a green filter if they wanted.
Are people here still pretending that the show is bad?
>>732218779Depends on the lighting. At night it looked blue, during day it looks green.
>>732220384The show isn't bad, it has its jank to it but overall it's good. Season 2 still feels like Todd's middle finger to New Vegas.
>>732215213Cool but my pirate site of choice has this plus s2 episodes for download as they air.
>>732213481Todd still seethes over new vegas, they hate you and this is their way of showing it
>>732220384This is one of those things where you have to turn your brain off.
>>732213481Let’s not pretend like the still image of House wasn’t always a lazy corner cutting technique
>>732214646Many services do this, it's a marketing strategy. They want you to get hooked and join prime video to watch the second season so you can join the water cooler discussions.
>>732220384If it was a novel IP it's good for a modern show. It's a terrible Fallout show, full of modern-audience writing tropes and a bunch of references to previous Fallout games like a theme park.
>>732214506>And the reason they just used still images in NV was technical.Genuinely wondering how you figure that. It would have been easy to make him a green-tinted NPC within the screen. It definitely felt like an artistic decision to make him a static image, so the player is unsure whether he's human or not.
>>732221223>It's a terrible Fallout showwhy?
>>732213481I'm convinced this is some newfangled guerilla marketing strategy where you pretend to hate something but then put forwards the most intentionally retarded and pedantic criticisms possible. Like the goal is to conflate criticisms like "le dinosaur backwards?" and "his face moves????" with actual underlying criticisms of the show like everyone outside the main cast being retarded cartoon characters or the show killing off one of the most interesting factions in the setting so that normalfags write off all criticism and just consume uncritically.
they're still airing this shit?
>>732221439He doesn't know.>>732221223>it's good>for a modern showWow. You're very tasteful and thoughtful.
>>732221415>It would have been easy to make him a green-tinted NPC within the screen.It wouldn't look as cool because gamebryo characters are ugly up close
>>732221727blackrock funded three seasons, they might as well deliver
>>732221664If you don't consider Novac dinosaur facing the wrong way, making the entire settlement be unable to function as a result, to be a valid criticism then you may be genuinely retarded.
>>732221439Just like the Halo show was a shitty show. Both franchises have preexisting world-building, "lore" and characters with already set characterizations and backgrounds. Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas has things already set in stone and it's obvious that the writing team couldn't even be bothered. LA is the Boneyard, Shady Sands is like 100 miles away from where it is in the show, The NCR is fully functioning nation with states and interstate trade. Even if you nuked the capital things wouldn't turn immediately turn into Road Warrior, you would have individual states taking the reins and trying to keep the NCR unified, or at worst it would fracture into separate nation-states that would still resemble some sort of civilization. The writing expects you to watch it while being a retard or drunk (I watched the first season with a beer in my hand and tolerated it). If you want to write-off the NCR to move the plot forward holy shit this is a stupid and lazy way to do it, essentially a petty DM going "rock falls everyone dies, the end".
>>732221439Probably because it completely ignores, destroys or contradicts the stuff in New VegasThe only thing it doesnt contradict is whatever dogcrap is in Fallout 4
>protag is weird looking girl>black beta male orbiter>ghoul dude trying too hard being cooli saw a clip of the nukes going off in the city and it looked so cheap>nukes just explode, no incoming missiles>were the bombs hidden in the city? i thought it was war>and they just explode like conventional bombs>no blinding light or things getting burned
>>732222212>the entire settlement doesn't function because the dinosaur faces a different way
>>732222471>the entire settlement doesn't function because the only means of defending it from attackers is goneYes.
>>732222471yes, dinky the dinosaur was used as a sniper roost to watch for Legion, especially after they took Nipton. REPCONN was frequented by scavangers until the ghouls took it over and there was the Ranger station down the road so wasn't deemed an avenue of threat. Dinky isn't going to magically rotates itself on its own without heavy equipment in the years after NV.
>>732222471>guard tower sniper looks into the town and not in the direction of possible threats
>>732213481It's supposed to be animated but Bethesda is incompetent
House’s plan was always to live forever as a cold fusion-powered AI with no body, but then Cooper gave the cold fusion MacGuffin to the Enclave. Without cold fusion he reluctantly went with the next-best thing leading to how he was in New Vegas. This scene is after The Ghoul used the cold fusion to power AI House, animated display and all.
>>732213481Directors want actors to emote.
>>732222212>If you don't consider Novac dinosaur facing the wrong way,listen i am happy to rip on troon vegas all night long but what the fuck kind of bullshit non-criticism is this? it's facing exactly where it should if you consider the dead raiders within its line of sight, not to mention the legion>m-muh REPCONNdid you even play the fucking game? REPCONN wasn't a threat until the nightkin moved in, jason bright tells you this
>>732223043René Auberjonois did an excellent job as a png. Just hire non-shit actors.
>>732214614>warhammer emperor if he real
>>732223043The most hilarious parts of the show are whenever someone is in power armor, because they cannot last 5 seconds without doing a face close-up shot inside the power armor helmet.
>>732213481Bitch are you honestly complaining about a tv show doing something better than the game could do due to limitations? Absolutely retarded. Bitching for the sake of bitching.
>>732223453>retarded faggot tranny loser who didn't play the gamemany such cases in this thread
>>732222987And of course, the ultimate reveal that this is actually Yes Man.
>>732223348I'm not even mad about the in-armor face shots, because they decided to give everyone in power armor the same cartoonishly deep modulated voice, so it's just a way of telling characters apart in a scene.
>>732222987House already has infinite energy in NV and he already has the means to live forever as a mummy connected to the machine anyway. House needing cold fusion is NEVER mentioned once in-game and I don't think cold fusion ever is either. Power is a done deal with Hoover Dam, Helios One, and fusion.
>>732222793It doesn't work for the settlement's purpose AND its pre-war purpose.
>>732214506>Making it a still image would be easier.not reallyfinding a good still image would be difficult, more importantly, writing/pacing/filming the scene with the desired drama would be harder with a still imagethe acting would be more difficult, both for the actor playing house (conveying whatever emotion through voice alone) as well as those reacting to house (having to react only to words/tone rather than both and facial features/expressions)
>>732219514I'm sorry that I have to be the one to tell you this anon but you're colorblind.
for those not keeping up with the show, House's body is dead, he confirms it was poisoned, shot, and other things. This is an AI backup of his mind while he was still alive in his tube during the events of FNV
when is the tv show ending?I heard they were going to shadow drop FO3 remaster or something when it ends
>>732224063It’s called a retcon, buddy. The only time Fallout was ever internally consistent was when there was only one game. None of this is real.
>>732225464>there were some minor retcons and oversights in fallout 2 and nv so lets just give up trying to be consistent at all and just consumeKys.
>>732225621Please continue crying. I'm sure someone will care eventually.
>>732220384>>732221439season 2 is pretty bad compared to the source material (FNV)>the libertarian house, who only cares about contracts, has now made a mind control chip of which, mind control is in and of itself always lazy writing: why did character do xyz? Oh no complex reason, it was a mind control chip :^)>Caesar's legion has lost any and all character, going so far as to forget why they pronounce it they way they do, or at least they have lost the pride to correct someone "correcting" them. The show makes no effort to show why it exists in the firstplace. Further they are rendered even dumber by lacking the foresight to read a note in the dying/dead Caesar's pocket, and now cartoonishly play a game of eternal 2fort as consequence.>NCR has lost its major flaws in its destruction, showing the writers' obvious contradictions on simultaneously wanting civilization to be flawed without actually allowing it flaws>originally, while it is implied that the Chinese first dropped the bomb, the answer is not objectively given which neatly aligns with the games' theme of jingoism, which further neatly mirrors peoples fear of an accidental nuclear holocaust. Now it seems that the enclave were ultimately the cause for dropping the bombs...which they did perhaps to get people to go to space....which would require extreme industrial capacity...which the nukes destroyed. Or they did it for money...the markets and goods producing sectors the nukes destroyed....or they did it for America/American purity....which the nukes destroyed and irradiated...or they did it merely for power...leaving them the kings of....irradiated ash. All silly.>lastly, the games had political intrigue and political commentary, now its just an irradiated wasteland with nothing much of note but survival.>this does not mention general silliness in the writing, like the ludicrous weakness of power armor,which the same character that exploited that later did not exploit earlier etc
>>732223348I hate that shit too and I also hate the stupid sounding voice modulator on power armor in the show. It seems like it's just for the Thaddeus disguise bit.
New Vegas was such a shit game. It's insane how we still have to hear about this dogshit so many years later.Fucking talking about Mr House still. The green jpeg with no personality. People writing essays about this guy and how he is some messiah who will save the wasteland. Dude had no character, there is nothing there. He could have been a side mission character in some vault and it wouldn't have made a difference.The entire game is so lifeless, soulless, boring. There isn't anything remotely interesting about this stupid dam conflict. I don't want to side with any of these people. NCR has no character, I don't even remember who was supposed to be in charge of the NCR or at least was the face of it, it's just these random NPCs in the middle of nowhere talking about how they are bringing order to the country. Legion has no character, they are just Roman LARPers but they don't really act or look like Romans, it's just bandits with random pans stuck to their chest. The only time they had any character was when they burned down a town.
>>732222987making yourself an AI doesn't mean you live forever, it just means that something resembling you can theoretically live foreverwhy make an AI of yourself if YOU can just live forever.In FNV does House even mention the possibility of becoming an AI?
>>732222302curious that this post was ignored
>>732226364>the story hasn't been completely shown to me (while they actively work on it)>so i'll just assume it's badyup, it's /v/.
>>732214564>Just straight up the shills lost everyone knows this show shit all over canon and the best argument you have left isThe show is a success. You lost.
>>732222302>If you want to write-off the NCR to move the plot forward holy shit this is a stupid and lazy way to do itThis. New Vegas sets up plenty of avenues for the downfall of the NCR, and the show just went lol nuke. How about when Chief Hanlon mentions that NCR drained all the fucking lakes in California for the brahmin barons, and Lake Mead was just as essential of a resource to capture as the Dam? I think people would say fuck you to the NCR and leave if their small town's well gets commandeered for some rich rancher's use.
Fallout could have been an actually good TV show for adults.Instead it's ... the way it is and I think that's really unfortunate. It could easily have been a good adult drama thing on HBO. Imagine if it got the Game of Thrones treatment instead of cash-in Disneyland myopia for adult children. I actually feel embarrassed watching that shit.
Man you can really tell apart the people who actually watched the show vs the anti-bethesda retards that do nothing but watched the same sloptubers for the past 10 years
>>732227826I watched both seasons. The show is trash and if you like it your IQ is in the double digits.
>>732226602>why make an AI of yourself if YOU can just live forever.That’s what real-life transhumanists actually believe, that one day we’ll all turn into AIs and also this is desirable. It’s dumb, but it makes sense that it’d be an attractive idea to someone like Mr. House. On a more practical note, since he’s a voice in a computer either way he’d probably rather not have a giant slab of beef jerky that will kill him if anything happens to it.>In FNV does House even mention the possibility of becoming an AI?He never even tells you he’s currently alive. It’s none of the Courier’s business, and since he’s trying to give off the image of a super genius who plans for everything, admitting his current setup was a fallback because his first plan failed would only be a disadvantage.
>>732222987I'm so pissed the cold fusion shit is going to be forever tacked onto House's character. And people will just accept it.
>>732227826The show is so bland, uneventful, discordant, confused and schizophrenic that, at times I had to wonder aloud to myself if the script was generated by an LLM that has had its "try to please everyone" dial cranked to fucking 12.Seriously -- what the fuck has been going on in this show? Can you name one thing from the prior season without searching? How about this season? What the actual fuck is going on in this show? Every episode is just a pastiche of generic Fallout-related shite happening to the tune of a Marvel quip-fest and with bad costumes (holy shit that power armour). Walton Goggins is too good of an actor for this fucking trash
>>732227826I watched it and it makes FO76 look well-written.
>>732227903>I watched both seasons.The second season isn't even done yet.
>>732228235Uhh something something something vault? Something raiders and then something something overseer something something I have to leave the vault or whatever the fuck. Something something ghoul??? Something something my dad bad??? Something something NCR nuked???? Something blue glowey thing. Something something Brotherhood of Steel. Something something deathclaws. Vault-Tec something + Mr. House something. Brainwashing chip something. Something something Caesar's Legion for all of 3 minutes with an inexplicable guest cameo of McCaulay Culkin who never appears again, something something.It makes utterly no sense it's so fractured and pointless I don't even know what the motivation of any characters other than Walton Goggins' is and that's only because of the trite over-the-top boring back-and-forth backstory shit. No-one cares about what happens in vaults once the protag leaves it, it's so boring. I don't even understand what relation anything happening in the vault has to the protagonist once she leaves, like why are they showing us? How does it even relate to what little sparse hairs are growing for a main plot ANYWAY?The show is ass
>>732228567He watched 1.875 seasons.
>>732228567It's like 90% done and I felt I spent the time watching all prior 7 episodes waiting for the season to actually start
>>732225052>It would be harder because the actors would have to know how to act
I don’t understand what ending is canon here. Yes man has you kill house so it’s not that but house’s ending shows his machines were all set so he never would have lost Las Vegas considering he’s a biological man and not a machine
Fine work, Coopbob, me boy. Now China will never get their hands on me cold fusion secret formulure.
>>732228824>I don’t understand what ending is canon here.It hasn't ended yet.
New vegas is like the holocaust of video games where everyone has to bring it up it's not even that good
>>732228824In the long run everyone lost and it doesn’t really matter what happened in New Vegas. If you killed House, that’s why he’s dead. If you sided with House, someone else killed him later. It’s a clumsy way of dealing with it but people were going to bitch about New Vegas’s canon fate no matter what it was.
>>732228824Yes Man. Obviously.
Do you seriously think any of the writers actually played New Vegas? When was the last time a series/movie based on a videogame respected the source?
If you watched this show at all, you're apart of the problem.>ElaborateNo.
>>732229073It's really funny how people bitch about the show making everything you did meaningless. When the literal plan for a new vegas sequel was having the mole men destroy the entire thing and starting over completely.
>>732229647I am separate from the problem? Okay, thanks.
>>732228567>you can't say a season of TV is bad when you've only watched 7/8ths of it!
i enjoyed the game and i enjoyed the show
>>732214506not true at all
As I understand it the Chinkies dropped the bomb after America invaded China.Which>History lesson!almost happened during the Korean war.
>>732226364>>732227167This exchange is why internet discourse is worthless. Just beat the shit out of people who disagree with you, murder them in the street.
You guys do know you can just ignore this piece of shit right? You don't have to torture yourself. This show isn't canon, no matter how much they say it is. Just ignore it.
>>732229704>When the literal plan for a new vegas sequel was having the mole men destroy the entire thing and starting over completely.Wrong. Even if Avellone didn't like how advanced civilization was getting at the time, he never actually pushed any kind of reset button.The only implication you receive regarding the tunnelers being an expanding threat is from Ulysses, the crazy bear bull schizo. It's all your own prerogative as to whether you choose to believe him or not.There were never any concrete plans for a NV sequel, and the tunnelers could very easily be brushed under the rug. And hey, guess what? They were. Even Amazon and Bethesda in their infinite retardation either didn't know the tunnelers exist, or even they were able to parse that their hands weren't forced to use them.
>>732230006This board would be 1000x better if people just ignored shit
>>732230006oh nooo my precious video game lore oh nooo my fictional universes and the tomes of arcane knowledge i have collected
>>732225052>the acting would be more difficult, both for the actor playing house (conveying whatever emotion through voice alone) as well as those reacting to house (having to react only to words/tone rather than both and facial features/expressions)house isn't physically in the scene. the entire point of the scene is the courier talking to a computer screen facsmile of the real guy. the disconnect is the entire fucking point. that IS the desired drama you moron.
>>732214358/tv/ is nothing but child porn and racismAnime website
>>732220384They nuked the west coast, 3 games desecrated. And for what exactly? It's shit writing.
>>732224063>cold fusion ever is eitherit's mentioned on the GECK leaflets that each is powered by one iirc, thus making this shit pretty abundant as opposed to what the show is trying to make your believe
>>732230564>And for what exactly?perhaps we will find out once they conclude their story.
>>732230617Nah, everything i like has to be destroyed. I know your marxist game.
>>732228102>>732226602The funniest thing about this "consciousness transfer" crap is that it's nonsense even if you're a staunch materialist and don't believe in any kind of "soul" or whatever>>732227678S1's portrayal of LA looks like the NCR has never been there aside from Shady Sands in the first place. Like before the show premiered I thought this was done so they can do a wacky post-apoc rendition of LA based on LA stereotypes and shit but the show doesn't even do that, the city is deserted aside from like an NCR holdout at the Griffith Observatory. The show had no reason to be set in California other than to shit on the original canon.
>>732213481>how do you fuck this up?They don't care and redditors will still consume it
>>732230775I don't think your feeling were relevant to anyone who worked on this. I'm sorry that you aren't important.
>>732230574MicroFusion cells are Cold Fusion.That shit powers everything from Powered Armor to Laser Rifle and cars. It's a retarded plot point.
>>732213481You just don't care. It's that simple. You do not care that much. Happens with all these adaptations unless they're helmed by some extreme turbo autist which is stupidly rare, and you're not getting one of those attached to something like fallout
>>732230867No, the feelings of the fans were not relevant, clearly.I'm glad Bethesda is getting the hate they deserve. Punk.
>>732221439Everyone is saying lore issues but its just a bad show period, theres pretty much no character growth or changes the plot takes 4x longer than it should take, ans everyone acts stupid.>but muh ghoulThe ghoul is also fucking retarded.
>>732218779Depends on hud/pipboy color
>>732221415>It would have been easy to make him a green-tinted NPC within the screenAnd also look incredibly ugly and cheap itself. I guess it's hard for a negroid like you to picture it in your head, but that's way different from having an animated 2D screen.
>>732230807Yeah. You could just roll your eyes and continue ignoring the Bethesda side of Fallout if the show and its retarded Vault-Tec and cold fusion plot took place off in fucking Vermont or something. They specifically are placing the show in these locations as a middle finger to the grognards who turn their noses up at Bethesda. If it were for any other reason, they would've actually done something with their California setting to justify it, but as you said, they didn't.
>>732230006It's what Fallout is going forward. Which is what it already was since FO4. We might as well commiserate over the state of the series, it's cathartic.
>>732220384You're unironically a fucking fag.
>The NV writers want to make another game?>No, we will let some random from hollywood finish their work.
>>732228824>Yes man has you kill house so it’s not thatIn the preview for the final episode, House explicitly says his body was destroyed. See >>732225169
>>732225132It's not green, it's aquamarine, which is a blue tone.
>>732222302Nobody at Bethesda cares about Fallout lore.Nobody making this show cares about Fallout lore.Nobody WATCHING this show cares about Fallout lore.Most people playing any Fallout that isn't 1 or 2 don't care about Fallout lore.What all these people care about is the Wasteland Western Aesthetic.That's it. They like bombed out houses and junky laser weapons. That's all they're looking for.
>>732226364>house>libertarianStopped reading there. The guy constantly violates the NAP and otherwise asserts control over people over the smallest whims, and god forbid if he actually does hold a grudge because he perceives you either insulted him or haven't constantly taken every chance in your life to pledge allegiance to him above all others. Motherfucker puts a petty ass squeeze on Primm, all the way across the other side of the wasteland, just because they accepted protection from the NCR when they were actively being assaulted by convicts and raiders. The town suffers less for accepting NCR help in the Legion ending than House's, the guy absolutely is an authoritarian crook.
>>732231171I can understand The Master and Unity not being relevant to the plot since people in the 1990s didn't bring up the American Civil war everyday, but nothing in that show references the original games and NV aside from the incorrectly placed Shady Sands. By the time of NV, the Boneyard was an actual city (even assuming it isn't as large as the original LA) with a university.
>>732231816One of last episodes mentioned Boneyard and it's some kind of shithole (not be confused with actual location Shithole)
>>732227826I wouldn't put it like that. There's absolutely a ton of haters that have watched the show. Hell, they're often quicker to watch the most recent episode than the people who actually like it. Their problem is more that they're actively tripping over themselves to scrutinize things and find "plot holes" and "lore breaks" as fast as possible so they can trying to definitively say the show is ass and not worth watching.The issue then being of course that, half the time, these "plot holes" and "lore breaks" are often just>well they haven't explained this yet and it'd have to be explained to fit in with the lore>so I will just assume the answer is a lore breakand then the reveal comes out and it's all fine and dandy, so they're set back at square one and have to obsessively watch the next episode to try to find "new" alleged plot holes and lore breaks to put the show "back" in its place again.It's clearly not healthy, since it just leads to people who want to discuss the show having to put up with obnoxious whiny pricks that aren't even discussing the actual ways the show does suck, and said obnoxious whiny pricks are trapping themselves in a cycle of watching a show they absolutely loathe, but can't escape because they're that desperate to find objective flaws and thus definitively be able to hate it and be in the right to do so.
>>732231935Yeah I've heard and that just raises further questions. Then there was also that map having "Boneyard Library" because it was thoughtlessly copied from a fanmade one.>>732231737>What all these people care about is the Wasteland Western Aesthetic.>That's it. They like bombed out houses and junky laser weapons. That's all they're looking for.A large bulk of people I've met IRL who loved the show are exactly that, they weren't even fans of the Beth games and just found the premise of a post-apocalyptic show cool. Those types of people at the very least don't get as dedicated and defensive as Bethdrones do.
>>732213481anon, they have explained a million times that they DONT play the games, they are given a resume and images and they come up with the rest, it's like the witcher
>>732213481why would he just have an image when he's got a nuclear powered computer now?
>>732213481By having the chivalry based Brotherhood of Steel nuke Shady Sands. Like, in New Vegas I can understand the NCR and BoS under the gold fever infected father Elijah fighting over Helios 1, but that was fucking killing civilians and invalidates them fighting the Master at all.
>>732213594First post, best post.
>>732223223>if he real
>>732213481Retards don't know that House was supposed to be animated from the start in New Vegas but Obsidian didn't how to to make it work. You can cry and cope all you want but in this case it doesn't save you from being utterly retarded.
>>732215456>Considering how advanced technology actually is in FalloutAs in its all over the place.
Been playing NV for the first time and saw this, Yes man is a cold motherfucker
>>732219538The wizard of Oz comparisons write themselves.
>>732226576>I don't want to side with any of these peopleGood news, you don’t have to. But of course if you actually played the game you’re attempting to critique you would know that.
>>732232754>Bitter Springs never happened, but if it did, they probably deserved it!
>>732214358>crying about animeLmao
>>732226364>>originally, while it is implied that the Chinese first dropped the bomb, the answer is not objectively given which neatly aligns with the games' theme of jingoism, which further neatly mirrors peoples fear of an accidental nuclear holocaust. Now it seems that the enclave were ultimately the cause for dropping the bombs...which they did perhaps to get people to go to space....which would require extreme industrial capacity...which the nukes destroyed. Or they did it for money...the markets and goods producing sectors the nukes destroyed....or they did it for America/American purity....which the nukes destroyed and irradiated...or they did it merely for power...leaving them the kings of....irradiated ash. All silly.Im sure Blackrock becoming a shareholder with Microsoft in Zenimax wasnt a factor. By that I mean Blackrock which is an arm of the Chinese Communist Party having share in the company that owns the company that owns Bethesda likely put pressure to make sure they dont blame China for the Great War, as that is also a requirement for the CCP to accept any foreign entertainment media into their country, also their propaganda.
>>732226602But isnt putting your brain in a jar a thing? I assumed House in the game was doing basically the same thing as putting your brain in a jar but less invasive.
>>732232754It makes sense when you find out he was originally supposed to betray at the end of the game if you chose his route. He wants you to clear out those he deems a threat to himself and gets mad if you don't.
>last episode of season 2 is tomorrow (I think)>have absolutely zero interest in watching it, even just to shitpost
>>732234317They probably thought it’d be too much not being able to stop him in any capacity, it’s already a ballsy move to have the mastermind (since Benny wouldn’t have been able to do it without him) be immortal with the player unable to take revenge
>>732234317It was never intention. That would just make Wild Card into worst route what people would never pick again or avoid from spoilers. It's would as dumb as making NCR/House/Ceasar just turning on you after their endings
>>732234403They release a trailer, the legion attack vegas
>>732222987why would he even need cold fusion for the A.I thing anyway? Z.A.X computers didn't need cold fusion and they are working fine, Skynet doesn't have cold fusion and it's working fine, President Eden too didn't have cold fusion and still became the leader of an entire faction.multiple century old A.Is that didn't need that overrated mcguffin, most electronics in Fallout already seemed to work on infinite energy.
Remember the set photos? The NCR comes in to save the day i bet
>>732228102Best you can hope for is ship of theseus slowly replacing your brain with sci fi cyber brain parts and hope whatever signals in your brain make you you adapt properly to the new hardware.
>>732227167so far vault tech is shown as the source with intent to do it, but it is implying it’s the enclavemy post is *most likely* correctdon’t be the retard squatting over a plate while insisting you won’t shit on it, (You) are better than that>>732228818..yes? less to work with will always make it more difficult>>732230485I don’t think you understand the order of the posts or that your point is not related to what I typed, you are writing about thematic meaning, I was writing about actor/director/writer logistics. Ironic desu>>732231743you are wrong about the consequences of who controlling Primm, the game does not distinguish the level of taxation between them nor imply any other punishments/rewardsbut I think you are mostly correct in theme of post, calling House a libertarian is clearly wrongI meant to say that House primarily looks to enforce contracts and generate revenue, he will not force slavery like legion or look to expand beyond his borders like NCR. Further in matters like the white gloves being cannibals he doesn’t seem to care about the moral issue of cannibalism, instead being offended at their breach of anti cannibalism contract>>732232703I may be retards, is their proof of their desire to make house a moving/animated image? I could see it
>>732220384Out of all the vidya adaptations so far? It's the best one especially when S3 is being made. Halo and TLoU died quietly and was so fucking gay.
>>732220505>schizo shit for the 15th year Todd doesn't hate NV but Todd should have taken more out of it to make 4.
>>732234403sure you don't
>>732213481And how do you think women, the target audience of movie and television, would take that, huh Einstein? They struggle with any abstraction.
>>732234504Prepare for another badly choreographed battle
>>732234704>NCR saves a day >s3 they are everywhere >entire faction just respawned
What's the point of playing new vegas now that the entire game is noncanon
>>732232754Every single bad thing that happened to the Khans was deserved.
>>732234036He explicitly says he isn't a brain in a jar in a conversation option, I think it was when you first meet him if you have low science/medicine/intelligence/whatever.
>>732235793fun, i don't care about the show, i just ignore it and pretend it's non-canon anyways.
>>732214614The tech existed in other engines of that era for sure, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it used in Gamebryo.It's also a bunch of extra work to do the animations.
>>732235345>>732234704Lol even though all the dialogue implied the NCR's gone this is the kind of stupidity I expect of this show
>>732231360>aquamarine>Aquamarine is a pale blue-green color with a light tint of teal, in between cyan and green on the color wheel. It is named after the mineral aquamarine, a gemstone mainly found in granite rocks. The first recorded use of aquamarine as a color name in English was in 1598.[2] It's both
>>732234704Unironically good, I would rather they completely roll back and pretend that the intention was never to have the NCR just not exist at all than continue to run the setting as Borderlands with nukes.
>>732234504Attack WHAT? Attack WHO? Attack WHY?Vegas is already salted earth in this show.
Is there a single plot thread that's going to be wrapped up, or just more stringing us along for another season?
>>732235810My favorite way to deal with them is ragebaiting the Legion rep into calling them savages.
>>732237473Just like modders fixing the game. We shouldn't let them get away with it.>>732238031Freeside is the only populated place in the Mojave apparently
>>732238303They live right next to the Deathclaw infested Strip? With the feral ghoul Kings just roaming around?
>>732238031Logically, for no fucking reason at all, in the game the Courier pointed out that taking Vegas would be too much of a pointless endeavor before, but now it's way past pointless, there is nothing the Legion would do with cold fusion anyway? No they don't have a reason and frankly, there is no good reason the show could give, even if Lanius shows up, voice actor with prosthetic scar in grey hair going "15 years ago a courier talked me out of attacking the Vegas strip for the Legion, now with the NCR barely holding together in its own territories or what's left and Vegas ripe for the taking you, Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone will take the entire west coast in a Blitzkrieg now that you have won this civil war."It would still be beyond retarded, in every way.The simple truth is that they need a final battle and even with zero fucking build up they need it to happen anyway. Get ready to see a bunch of vagrants from Freeside with no leadership from the Kings at all even and no time to rally together Securitrons solo an entire Legion army the size of what attacked Hoover Dam.
>>732238303I wonder if Goodsprings has been burned to ashes since they're insistent on destroying everything
>>732238293My favorite way to deal with them is 5.56
>>732238750It's not New Vegas if you aren't using cowboy cartridges.
>>732234317see>>732234471It's cut content for a reason, it's not canon, it's not real. Yes Man doesn't betray you and his "assertiveness" comment at the end is about him becoming loyal to just you and no one else. If the independent ending really was just "lol you lose skynet takes over" then it would unironically be the shittiest ending just from a writing standpoint. That fact that jeets unironically want you to believe that all the effort you put in for that ending was for nothing because yes man betrays you is evidence of their retardation.
>>732220384>merely pretending
>>732213481why does the ghoul have ears
>>732238956At this point ghouls are now just nigh-immortal humans with bad skin who would be a genuine improvement over humanity for the wasteland conditions if not for the fact they're infertile
>>732213481House in NV not moving was a tech limitation
>>732238413What do they even eat?>>732238597I'm surprised we never seen it
>>732239073Also they apparently have to drink radaway like they're capri sun pouches now.
>>732232754New vegass and the show have the exact same writing. It's uncanny. They must have trained an ai on new vegass dialogue.
>>732238597>>732239303Hey yeah, why the fuck wouldn't they use Goodsprings in at least one scene? The saloon is right fucking there. It holds New Vegas fan meetups, for Christ's sake. How much more could they fumble this show?
>>732214646it's called a hook, anon.if you like what you see, you're gonna search for more of it.
>>732234504Ah so they're going to randomly attack Freeside for no reason, fail utterly, and then all the Legion extras will stab Kevin while he mutters "Et tu Cletus" or whatever and the Legion will officially be erased from the "canon" timeline like every other west coast faction
>>732220384the show is bad
>>732239563They're obviously setting up the Enclave to be the main villain, so i wonder where the Legion falls into things. Without giving the show credit, the Enclave needs the Legion around to keep the heat of them.
>>732239765Having 2 "Evil" factions is a strange dynamic.
>>732221914pretty sure it's the upper tooth second from the left
I have a very weird relationship with this show, I hate what they are doing with the lore
>>732222302>The NCR is fully functioning nation with states and interstate tradeNo!>The NCR is a failing collection of city-states that controls a small slice of California and Nevada, and is stated in New Vegas to already be on the verge of economic and political collapse due to a crumbling fiat dollar, squandering of natural resources, and rampant corruption in the governmentYes!
>>732240217Video game shows have so far managed to both ruin the lore and be an actually awful tv show nobody would likeThe fallout show is actually mostly kind of enjoyable and has likable characters and moments BUT it is taking the fatest fucking shit all over the loreMy gf who has never played the games likes it but damn is it to sit through sometimes
>>732213481>>732220384>>732221439>>732238435everything that ever happened in any of the games was completely pointlessall that nation building, all the politicking and culture building, all those battles, all gone to neo-fallout writinglike shit on rust
>Freeside is apparently fine>Kings are all feral ghouls hanging around outside the StripWhat the fuck did the writers mean by this?
>>732213481this show looks so badi think twin peaks season 3 was the last tv show worth watching and that was in 2018...
>>732240593>gf likesabsolute disdain for normies and foids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mDraCCVXa4>Over the years, my body became something of a target for wandering travelers with something to prove. I have been poisoned, shot, bludgeoned with a crowbar.Yes Man GAWDS
>>732240682Same reason they blew up the NCR, cause reasons
>>732240687Better Call Saul was good. Only real bad thing I can say is it has some moments where characters have to act strangely because it's a prequel and can't just do things like have a character from Breaking Bad get killed when killing them would be the most sensible thing to do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvkYRhu-TP0
>>732240682Is this your first time watching a TV show? Do you not know that things get set up to then be explored and explained later.
>>732238834>It's cut content for a reason, it's not canonThey canonized Vault 32 which was also cut content
>>732241006>Better Call Saul was goodi thought it was decent by television standards but i felt like if you watched one episode you watched them all, i stopped after season 1 or 2 and would sometimes watched clips on youtube, the ending didn't look worth it at all
Please save me Yes Man.Please appear in the last episode Yes Man.
>>732241071>They canonized>TheyBethesda can't even keep their own cannon straight in the same fucking game, let alone the franchise. The show means even fucking less.
>>732238834Yes man betraying you could work...As a bad ending if you genuinely go retard, and one of the good guys just has enough of the lobotomized mailman fucking everything, and then barely gluing things together because he has aimbot/charisma that borders on mind control so he just boots you. You know, choice? The problem is that I doubt they were going with that, instead of "lol the ending where you do your own thing, you get backstabbed the immortal guy who has full control of everything
>>732234504Jesus, even the city of my cousins that went to hell somewhat recently doesn't look that bad, what the fuck? WHERE ARE THE ROADS. DID THEY STOLE THE CONCRETE?
>>732237049Breen actually existing in a room placed and re-placed into every map and he's literally broadcasting to screens in-game always fascinated me, workaround or no
>>732234504This show is like seeing two dementia patients that somehow infected other people with dementia, yet they can't die. It is truly sadening.
>>732238435Courier rolling in his grave at all this bullshit
>>732238435>talked Lanius out of attacking NV>not BTFO him, his camp, the NCR, AND House and his securitrons, roll upYou didn't beat the game.
Home Alone kid is the next caesar
>>732243105How fucking predictable, literally the most obvious thing everyone instantly predicted the note would say, even though Caesar already had a network of succession set up, holy shit I fucking hate this show.
>>732243227>even though Caesar already had a network of succession set upIf you actually bought the NCR intel at face value said by boone despite every other Legion NPC that talks about it telling you that the legion dies with caesar then I'm afraid you're retarded
>>732243105wow i just watched the scene where he was introduced, this show looks so fucking shit lol"turn your brain off" has gone too far
>>732243227>>732243105at least the silly 2fort situation almost makes sense now, setting the legion up to gut itself if you ignore how that would actually have to play out if it actually happened, the sheer absurdity of just having a note in a corpse's pcoketit does match FNV's stated weakness of the legion, as well as several characters' within the legion's fearsalthough it is character assassination for Caesar, who repeatedly stated his desire to build something lasting on a civilization scale
>>732243460No you fucking retard, the legion dies with caesar not because he pulls an ebin troll movement out of his ass, and denies any chance of a succesor, but because no one can really match Caesar in sheer status, except for lanius, but he is too much of a fighting autism to be a good leader. I mean, Caesar was more of a cult leader than a leader, but still.
>>732243105How are we coping Legion sisters?
>>732243787The only real chance that the legion lasts, is if the courier takes its place, and manages to severely tone down the "you aren't like our previous god emperor leader, gut his head", which just derails the legion into another faction being fractured. Though not in this 2fort looney toons goofy shit.
>>732220384pretending?
>>732243547To be fair this show isn't really worse than the last 20 years of cape shit. I don't watch a lot of TV these days.
NCR is back in full force and takes back vegas from the deathclaws they use fallout 4's theme instead of new vegas in this scene btw
>>732215958>>732213481The literal engine of fallout could not allow motion video, you fucking retarded op
>>732244198There's literally only like 5 Deathclaws that moved in from Sloan, did they actually waste the NCR comeback on the Deathclaws and not the Legion or the Enclave?
>>732244305It was revealed by Mr House that it wasn't sloan and they're actually Enclave controlled deathclaws
>>732214506>the reason they just used still images in NV was technical.What fucking horseshit. The reason house is still images is to represent the state of prewar technology. If they wanted him to have real time mocap they'd could have put a setscale'd NPC inside the view screen wearing an invisible outfit while set to be non targetable and immortal in the CK. Amazon was too lazy to make the House computer interface and instead put a green layer and b&w filter on their footage.
Why do so many people think the show is good? I don't care if they enjoy it, but it's become alarming that so many people I know think the show has good writing.
>>732244016>The only real chance that the legion lasts, is if the courier takes its placearguably sobut it does not fit Caesar to die with a paper stating the damnation of the legion, at a minimum hed throw an unproven hail mary in charge
>>732213481They have an actor, they want to have him act, people like to see motion out of a character, they dont want to watch a tv showing a still image of another tv showing a still image. I understand that’s not how it was in the video game, but you’re asking for so much loyalty in this case that the show wouldn’t even be able to operate in the genre its in.
>>732244342why did the enclave attack with deathclawsand how did they get past the platinum chip securitons
>>732244680Yeah more or less, He seems more like the type of dude to go full retard and start war with everything on site when having delusions due to his tumor, rather than going "lol fuck u"
Enclave has their own brand of pipboys
>>732244476>Why do so many people think the show is good?Because the average person can't tell the difference between good and entertaining. And they don't don't care about the difference because they'll stop caring about the show once something new and popular comes along for them to talk about.Never forget that the only people that care about things when they aren't relevant anymore are fans.
>>732244476people's standards in entertainment have fallen off a fucking cliff in the past 10-20 years, TV shows in particular just feel like parodies with how lazy they all areanime isn't far off either
>>732244897It is funny how little ram it has.
Feels good only accepting Fallout, Fallout 2 and New Vegas as the main canon and ignoring everything else.
>>732244897Sexy
>>732226364Can't wait for faggots like you to call real life>lazy writingbecause of Neuralink controlling people's minds even though it will be happening in front of your face.
>>732243105Holy fucking shit everyone called it. Embarrassing and complete character assassination of Caesar.
>>732245348what does that have to do with the writing quality of a show schizo anon?I'm not saying mind control is or isn't realistic, I'm merely stating that mind control is lazy/bad writingthere is no need for complex character motivations when anything and everything can be handwaved with mind control
>>732245348>Can't wait for faggots like you to call real life>>lazy writingI said this when the epstein/moot asspull plotwist happened btw
Liberty Prime teased for S3
>>732244198>they use fallout 4's theme instead of new vegas in this scene btwShow always do that
>>732245621Wow, I just do not care anymore, every set up feels more like Fallout 76 than New Vegas and I just don't care anymore.
>>732234504Who even cares? All the stakes are gone.
This show fucking sucks and anyone who unironically likes it needs to be euthanized.
>>732245814buyoughted prime and binged watched the series just for you :^)
Haven't watched the show but holy shit do I not care about Liberty Prime yet again
>>732213481>super genius can keep himself alive for 200 years>cant figure out how to animate an image of himselfdoes that really make more sense to you?
>>732231743The NAP isn't a magic spell even if 14 year old libertarians think it is. You can violate it and you can kill the people who attack you for violating it if you're able. The pie in the sky idea is that individuals will come together to fuck up collectivists/habitual line steppers in defense of individualism... as a collective, but this is also why only the most retarded want libertarian party libertarianism, where foreign trade manipulation and active wage suppression doesn't violate the NAP because muh free marketirino, instead of libertarian ideals guiding a Republic.But House is obviously an Ancap, by circumstance if not choice prewar.
>>732245956 it looks less imposing
>>732245956In the Fallout universe such things just aren't possible lol. Graphics aren't well developed. A miniaturized nuclear reactor is possible but not making a 2D image that animates in real time with accurate lip syncing.
>>732213481So were people honestly expecting courier 6 to show up and john wick on everyone while saying avengers assemble so everyone could clap?
I finished watching so recap>Caesar did a goof and did not have any successors >home alone kid eats the paper and claims he's the new caesar after killing the only witness>House is "alive", show alluding it's just the AI copy of himself and possibly killed by the courier with a crowbar>NCR is back in full force>NCR power armor has mini rockets that shoot from the backpack>Lucy's dad lobotomizes himself into forgetting he's a father>Canadian pre war chick raised the alarm with her enclave pipboy to start "phase 2">vault 31 (the managers vault) all died to radroaches after trying to execute lil chuddy protagonist >Liberty Prime is coming for season 3>enclave are opearting out of some hidden facility hidden in the mountains>ghoul's kid and wife were actually in colorado (S3 will take place there)
>>732246258forgot the image
>>732232257I never noticed this, very smart anon
>>732221439>fundamentally does not understand the series or the setting>destroys multiple factions and locations>builds on nothing and just relies on memberberries>shitty and boring writing>one dimensional characters with nothing going on which can be described in a few words or less>shitty costume and weapon designs>poor acting and direction
>>732222302That flag is sweet.
>>732222302>holy shit this is a stupid and lazy way to do it, essentially a petty DM going "rock falls everyone dies, the end"Perfectly summed it up. It’s the most low effort way to do it and it feels like it was done for the most retarded reasons possible.
>>732241979It's over for me.
THE FUCKING COUNTDOWN ON THE SITE WAS NOTHING???
>>732246315But enough about Highguard
>>732223103Faggots like this will cry and shit their pants for hours looking for anything to say why NV is bad but in the end they will just go for their comfort cope and scream tranny after they get btfo.>it's facing exactly where it should if you consider the dead raiders within its line of sightThis nigger inadvertently admits that the whole reason it faces that way it plot convenience, that is the entire reason, does it make sense? No but if moves the plot forward. It’s supposed to face out towards the road from the east looking out over the bridge.
>>732246609It was datamined to be just a 3d exploration room, keep up chuddie it's embarassing
>>732246638Oh is it as shit as everyone said it would be? I figured as much when Jeff announced it and got mad that everyone said it looked like midtier garbage.
>>732226364It wasn't implied the Chinese dropped it, it was always meant to be a mystery. Fallout saying anyone specifically did it first removes a vital aspect to the series.
>>732243105Mod can't fix this shit
>>732246258>Caesar did a goof and did not have any successorsLanius and Vulpes are just gone huh?>House is "alive", show alluding it's just the AI copy of himself and possibly killed by the courier with a crowbarRetarded beyond any possible measure >NCR is back in full forceThat makes no logical sense whatsoever.>NCR power armor has mini rockets that shoot from the backpackThat makes even less sense>Lucy's dad lobotomizes himself into forgetting he's a fatherUghhhhhhhhhh>Liberty Prime is coming for season 3They really are just throwing whatever slop they can for th normalfags>ghoul's kid and wife were actually in coloradoSo fucking stupid.
>>732245193Doesn't it just?
>>732246832>Fallout saying anyone specifically did it first removes a vital aspect to the series.I agree, but in making sure of that I googled it and some post on reddit quoting fallout 2 implied it was the chineseI can not be bothered to google it again
We honestly should of skipped Nevada and gone straight to Colorado. No one cares what happens in the Colorado Wasteland.
>>732246941Finale was so fucking shit, oh and guess what buddy we didn't even get to see the NCR vs. Legion strip fight on screen, just the aftermath in the end credit art. FUCKING NIGGERS. Absolutely ass season, had kino potential, but they dropped the fucking ball in the finale. How did that one twitter nigger say that they "landed the plane" did they pay a midget to rim him while he was watching it? FUCK
>>732243105>whole point of taking Vegas was to make sure the legion would have a place to set down roots and develop proper identity >make it so Caesar wanted it to die with himThis goes beyond not playing the game, holy shit, who are the faggots that wrote this?
>>732247089Oh they took a massive steamy on legion fans, I swear us NCRchads just get catered too meanwhile you just get fucking SHIT ON!
>>732247073There was never any potential, it was going to be slop from the get go. This show is garbage made by idiots that have at most only ever played mobile games in Nintendo.
>>732246832>It wasn't implied the Chinese dropped itSeveral times it yes. Play the older games and they tell you it's because T-51b power armor let the US practically ransack China so the Chinese started throwing nukes.
>>732247089>>make it so Caesar wanted it to die with himerm chudlet? his goal was to merge the NCR and Legion into something new, he made sure the legion doesn't survive if he fails that
>>732247152>NCRchads just get catered too meanwhileWhat an inorganic reply especially when the NCR is still fucking dead and whatever dogshit they showed made no sense.
>>732240627Just play the Hearts of Iron Fallout mod, whatever you do will have better in-universe reasoning.
>>732247223>erm chudlet? his goal was to merge the NCR and Legion into something newNo it fucking wasn’t the conflict was supposed to lead to something new, they pause at Vegas to build shit up. Caesar is aware how frail the Legion is and mentions it in the game. I swear you faggots have the most retarded scripts.
>>732247089Its kind of ironic the people who played the game are confused by this the legion dues with Caesar regardless of his choices
I am actually mad this finale fucking sucked, and we didn't even get fo3 remastered announced, what the fuck are they doing at bethesda?
>>732247317Chill chuddy, it's been a while since I played it and I never did a legion playthough btw :^)
I wonder if that shill who says everyone who criticizes the show is his schizo boogeyman is here? I guess I’ll find out
If the Legion is still fighting over leadership in Nevada, who's in charge of the other Legion territory?
>>732246258>and possibly killed by the courier with a crowbar>CrowbarThey had ONE FUCKING JOB!I can understand if they just shot him or left him out to die of exposure, but they deliberately chose melee and then decided a *Crowbar* was the best option!? Even if you look past not making the OBVIOUS easter egg achievement choice, they didn't even pick something you can actually fucking get in the game!Incompetence isn't a strong enough word...
>>732245621yes fallout is bottle caps, BoS and Liberty Prime
>>732246609If blizzard didn't exist Bethseda would be the most incompetent gaming company ever
>>732247404>Its kind of ironic the people who played the game are confused by thisI just said why it’s retarded and the game backs that up.>the legion dues with CaesarSaars
>>732247506sit down boya bioshock reference was more important that your headcanon
>>732247458>retard tries to argue something he doesn’t know about Why do you fags always do this.
>>732247583Typo aside it's state multiple times when Caesar dies the ensuing power struggle to be the new Caesar would destroy the legion
>>732247480Bethesda: >"...There's other legion Territory?"We all know they didn't even consider thinking that far.
>>732247654cuz it's fun to shitpost my queen
>>732241979I just want dave foley to get a paycheck
>>732247672Yeah so you better get down on your knees and suck the cum out of todd's asshole because he let the homealone kid keep your filthy legion alive.
>>732247442Bethesda's absolute biggest screwup is their refusal to let other Developers make a Fallout/Elder Scrolls game in between major releases. People are going crazy over any potential new game and that's all wasted because we won't see a new Fallout until 2035.
>fallout tactics is canonKINO
>>732244897I find it creepy that they just 3D print game assets to make props
>>732247672>it's stateSAAARS>multiple times when Caesar dies the ensuing power struggle multiple times when Caesar dies the ensuing power struggleIn the event they lose which Caesar wasn’t expecting and had a plan for them to continue even after his death so having him say the legion dies with him is fucking stupid.
>>732247723That's fine this development is intriguing
>>732247706>n-no bro it’s just a jokeWhatever helps you cope
>>732247612>a bioshock reference was more important that your headcanonWhat are you even saying here? Did you miss typing multiple words or just not read the fucking post?I know you already fucked up typing "that" instead of "than" somehow but what are you babbling about headcanon? Where is anything canon even implied?Do you have brain damage?
>>732247773You know have you ever considered that this is some test by Caesar to see if someone worthy would be their to step into his placeIf everyone and their mother in the Mojave could predict the legion would collapse when Caesar died dont you think Caesar could as well
>>732247089I could see Caesar's ego being so big that he says "fuck it" on this deathbed knowing that he failed. He should know more than anyone that the legion's days are numbered if he died during the plot of New Vegas. He built up the legion entirely around him, and it was still just a weapon. If he actually made the legion into the "Rome" that he wanted maybe then he'd see to it's futureEither way it's a pretty boring answer to the legion's identity crisis in the show.
>>732247921The fact he has no senate is pretty telling his ego was to big to not crush the legion
>>732247003Tim Cain said he intended the Chinese to fire the first shot as retaliation for FEV virus biowarfare stuff but it's a George Lucas thing honestly that should be disregarded. In the actual F1 game it's not mentioned but more importantly no one would care because the old world wasn't important to anyone in the setting.
Ceasar never did produce an heir, which you think someone who researched as much as Edward did would know how important that is, unless he was afraid of being overthrown. That could explain his note.
>>732247903None of what you said would align with Caesars character or anything he said in NV, which is why I 100% fully expect something like this in the future since the show loves completely shitting on established plot.
>>732247903They literally erased the two people that would have done that from the plot. >If everyone and their mother in the Mojave could predict the legion would collapse when Caesar died dont you think Caesar could as wellYou are purposely ignoring the point that I keep making. He wanted for it to survive him, he states to the courier. Stop making shitty excuses for the awful writing.
>>732248045The whole legion reproduces by anonymous mass rape where no one knows who their children are. having a family of any kind doesn't make sense for the caesar
>>732248074Caesar is intelligent he knew the legion dies with him whether he had a successor or notThe legion IS Caesar He made no efforts to increase the legion survival
>>732248101>He wanted for it to survive himOh really then what is his governing policy that isn't rip and tear and forceful assimilation of other smaller groups?Where's his senate? Unironically what the fuck was his tax policy ?
>House is dead>The AI with House interface is Yesman>enclave behind everythingwhy are bethesda like this?Also, she forget her father the moment the nigga appears.
>>732239459uhh, and actually go more than a few hours outside LA? Sweetie...
>>732247921>I want to take Vegas as my Rome and plant ensure a Pax Romana for the legion>lol just kidding everything ends with me no one takes overMake it make sense.
>>732248338Maybe the tumor made him go crazy near the end?
So what happens if Colorado? Im assuming Fallout 1 and 2 lore stuff?
>>732248224>Oh really then what is his governing policy that isn't rip and tear and forceful assimilation of other smaller groupsTaking Vegas to in order to set down roots and build a proper national identity you dishonest retard, play the game and stop crying. >Unironically what the fuck was his tax policyThat take tribute form those that they have conquered but do not do taxes, or at least trade taxes which along with safer roads is why traders prefer to do business in legion territory. Again play the game,
>>732248403This is supreme bait.
Who even controls the Enclave at this point? They can't seriously try another President Eden again.
>>732248338I mean if he's about to die then he won't be able to make his pax romana
>>732248397You literally see what the tumor does to him and it’s nothing close to that. Why are you so desperate to justify this?
>>732248470Ive only played New Vegas all I know is 3 4 and 76 take place in the west coast so logically I assume It has to be about either 1 or 2
>>732248403All the Master's Super Mutants are in Colorado so I assume it's going to be Super Mutants vs Enclave vs BoS
>nothing new related to a new game or remakes announced at the endfuck todd
>>732213594
>>732248454>Taking Vegas to in order to set down roots and build a proper national identity you dishonest retard, play the game and stop crying.He didn't need Vegas for that he could have built rome anywhereWhere was his Senate?
>>732248481But he didn’t want the legion to die with him since that was the purpose of the Pax Romana in the first place
>>732248550That could be kind of kino Are the enclave competent given what I heard they sound like jobbers
>>732248550I bet they add in Female Super Mutants.
>>732248530*East coast
>>732248589>He didn't need VegasHe did since it would function as both a proper capital and a symbolic victory.>Where was his Senate?He didn’t want one because he saw/read about how corrupt the NCR/Roman senate was and didn’t want that. Again play the fucking game.
>>732244452>What fucking horseshit.It's not. You can't have like, videos stream to a screen in it. Even the TV at the start of Fallout 4 is actually a clipshow of like 400 different textures that it loops through.
I'm just glad it didn't end with going to the East Coast. Colorado is a lot more interesting.
>>732248689Playing the game is irrelevant if you do not fucking acknowledge the legion dies with Caesar he made the legion all about him he was the legion you don't need indepth knowledge to know something everyone in the game is telling you will happen when he dies
>>732248615Right, but this pax romana won't happen without him as the leader. If the legion was actually built into this new civilization then he wouldn't take the legion down with him, his legacy would be secure.Call it spiteful or whatever but I don't think it's too crazy for Caesar to do something like that in this specific circumstance.
>>732248732I would be kinda interested to see if the Brotherhood actually bothered to govern any of the East Coast or just stripped down anything valuable to build their airships and stuff.
>>732248781>Playing the game is irrelevant if you do not fucking acknowledge the legion dies with CaesarThis retard cannot actually argue what I being discussed which is Caesar not wanting the legion to die with him so instead has to debate that it was always meant to die with Caesar. I am going to assume he is reading from a script of points to hide the fact he hasn’t played the game he is trying to argue in order to defend a show he is doing damage control for.
>>732248804He wouldn’t take the legion down with him period since he didn’t want it to die with him which is why the show saying he would is retarded. Yet you seem to say it’s not while arguing something completely different.
>>732248982I just think with he could say "fuck it" on his deathbed if he failed to secure the legion's future.
>>732248732What is in Colorado?
>>732244452>>732221415I think anon meant they lacked the ability to give his avatar portrait lipflaps or anything. Yes, they could've just made him a regular NPC like everyone else but with his head inside a screen, but for intentional artistic reasons they did the portrait, and then for technical reasons the portrait had to be static whether they wanted that aspect or not.
>>732249107>I just think with he could Saars>say "fuck it" on his deathbedLazy retarded writing.
Is Colorado Legion territory?
>>732243105>In Rome I found a template for a society equal to the challenges of a post-apocalyptic world -- a society that could and would survive.>Then I decided it "fuck it" and planned to tell all the retarded tribals I conquered that their society wouldn't function without me because I think that'd be funny as shit.
>>732249138In real life? Cheyenne Mountain>>732249221By the point of NV, they took Denver (called Dogtown) and that was the extent of their expansion into Colorado
>>732249221Yes, Denver is called Dogtown and Antony comes from there.
>>732249308>Strips conquered tribes of their identity >Replaces it with legion >Legion just means Caesar Why did he think this was a good idea?
If the Enclave stronghold is in Colorado then it makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever in season 1, how the Commonwealth BoS, out of Boston/DC, would not only know that there was a defector fleeing the place, but even what he looked like, to then send word/a force across the entire country to the Cali BoS to organize a manhunt
>>732226364None of this matters. It's not like it's set right after NV. It's 15 years after NV.You guys always forget this.
>>732219514I think I can see how someone could call it as blue, though I'd still think green first and foremost personally
>>732249308>pseudo-intellectual with an ego the size of the tumor in his headI could see it
>>732244198Why is that ranger wearing a shoulderless evening gown
>>732226364>>the libertarian houseCan this meme die?House is an Autocrat, and authoritarian.What he craves is control, not freedom.
>>732249442Enclave is pulling all the strings. BoS answer to them and they don't even know it.
>>732249138Well that territory is run by Saul Buchanan otherwise known as The Patriarch. He asked the Rangers to help him get his wayward kids back in order to help them out. He controls Colorado Springs. His second son Valor (who is a pussy) is in Denver with a faction called The Gippers who worship Ronald Reagan, his eldest son Victory (who is a psycho) is with a group called The Breathers who Vic has driven Crazy with hallucinogenic gas in Aspen, and finally Liberty (The cunt) who is gathering a bunch of raider tribes and clans to overthrow her father. Her people are cybernetic motorheads, cholo clowns, and heya hoya skinning people.
>>732213481Shut up fucking incel chud
Love live the New California Republic
How many times are we just going to redo the same story beats over and over before people say its enough? Anyone who watches this shit should be culled. Why do anything new and interesting when you can just repeat the same things over and over again every 20 years on a wide cultural scale? It is a fucking dystopia that we are living in.
>>732244198>the ncr are back>just ignore how they and all of civilization are completely absent from their core territoryThis reeks of some 11th hour ads covering moment so people can say “no see you were just mad about nothing” when them existing in any capacity makes no fucking sense given all that has happened and the complete lack of presence anywhere else.
Has there been a single Railway Rifle in any of these episodes?
>Post credits scene>Old man BoS scribe guy>"Fuck unity, I'm going to destroy everything!">think he's teasing at the Madre, like picking up and following through with Elijah's plan>it's just fucking Liberty Prime, againwhat the fuck lmaoif this were ever to be another game, or the focus of season 3, is it really going to be "Liberty Prime marches upon an Enclave stronghold" all over again?
The anon who's know to sperg hundreds of posts in countless threads for anyone liking the show is likely in here, or will be if not already.
>>732215958>making it a video feed is an improvementhow so?
How are Bethesda so poorly managed that they dont have a game to build on the hype from this show? It will be the 2030s before Fallout 5 comes out. Just think about how retarded that is.
>>732247462He just showed up
>>732249905There is the newest Fallout 76 update anon :*)
>>732246258>NCR power armor has mini rockets that shoot from the backpackso the niggers that couldnt even use stolen powerarmor just got around to making it shot rockets?fucking hell i hate the show so damn much
>>732249905He just samefagged to himself again kek.You called it
>>732213481I haven't watched that far and I feel silly for popping in here the longer I think about it, but I would have preferred a still image over a video feed.I'm under the heavy impression he would not have liked being constrained to a singular expression, and being restricted to that single image would likely do things to most people's minds after a while. Assuming he even thought about how he appeared to others, which to be fair, he probably didn't mind too awful much so long as he was in control. But then not having control over his own face might have made him maybe just a little peeved?
>>>/tv/ is that way
>>732249972That was my first post in this thread so I dunno what your talking about. I just came here from a /tv/ thread and I liked this episode so I'm not complaining about the show. You /v/ people are so retarded.
>>732249848This is like predicting that water is wet. He's always in these samefagging to himself.
>>732249843HEY MEMBER FALLOUTOOH FALLOUT I MEMBERMEMBER MR HOUSEMEMBER LIBERTY PRIMEMEMBER BOTTLE CAPS
>>732249905Because they are a shit company that lives off of nostalgia, reputation, and their fanatic pay pigs buying whatever they put out.
>>732249843Not just Liberty Prime, anon, Liberty Prime from scratch. The Brotherhood's steel mill game is on-point.
>>732249963>General Oliver actually succeeded in his Heavy Trooper programHuh, didn't see that coming.
>>732249308The whole show is basically pic rel The writers of New Vegas were essentially industry vets with an impressive portfolio while the show writers literally just fail upwards and simply know the right people.
>>732249751warneverchanges
I can excuse everything but man there’s no irradiated ghouls there’s no mutants there’s no irradiated wildlife we got one variant of deathclaw fucking vault 31 got mauled by rad roaches I swear to god I thought there would be a glowing one shit would’ve been sweet.
>>732250073
>>732249751>How many times are we just going to redo the same story beats over and overMany, many times. Look at star wars. There are still subhumans who are anxiously awaiting the promised return of Glup Shitto despite every project besides arguably Andor being completely irredeemable shit. The question isn't "when will audiences get tired of it?", it's "when will all their money laundering and irresponsibly retarded spending habits kill the cash cow?"
>>732249917Yup, looks like he is already crying samefag. I guess he forgot the last time he did this and someone posted a webm of themselves showing they weren’t samefagging and he still ignored it and continued to go nuts,
Good episode, but sad we'll get no more scheming Kyle MacLachlan
>>732230867hollywood runs films one of two ways nowadays:>calculated, formulaic, safe garbage that will make some money and lacks any human elements whatsoever>staff resume padding while tax loss-harvesting because you don't anticipate making any money at allthis one is the latter because it's on a streaming service and those don't bring in revenue directly, so they expect to make money through other meansnobody is important to this show, TV and movies for the last ~10 years have imaginary target audiences dreamed up by marketing graduates who were simply told that such people definitely exist
>>732248475Probably the President coop handed the Diode off to. "Initiating Phase 2" probably unthawed him.
>>732249917>>732250237>someonekek least obvious samefag
How do the Enclave keep coming back
>>732250419Well it isn't the Authclave
>>732250419They don't "keep coming back". Obsidian tried to write them as being killed off screen after the events of FO2 and Bethesda rightfully ignored their retardation. It's one of the only Bethesda retcons of NV I can get behind.
>>732226364>>the libertarian houseOh thats a FNV troon.
>>732250419they need a villain but are too braindead to make a new one.
>>732250419They have to appear and be defeated in every adaptation, just like they reappeared when Bethesda bought Fallout
>>732250419They fragmented and separate holdouts seek different continuations of the dream, each proclaiming themselves the true inheritor. Same exact thing happened to the Brotherhood of Steel and the Legion. And America in general.
at least 15 minutes to edit so you don't see any obvious cuts, give me a bit
>>732250419Because for blah blah reasons, the original Enclave ordered people to go to blah blah place, do something evil, and wait for more instructions.That means we can just keep bringing the Enclave back by saying, "Oh, they were ordered here years ago."
>>732250302Then what was the point of Control Station ENCLAVE? Just to fuck with people?
>>732250320You need to stop doing this.
This whole >we've actually microchipped a ton of peopleIs basically reusing the whole FO4 Synth plot but with stuff actually happening.
what is the Enclaves tax policy?
>>732250720samefagNice stall for time.
>>732226364season 2 actually enhances the source material in ways you completely missed:>the libertarian house, who only cares about contracts, has now made a mind control chipfirst, this isn’t lazy, it’s consistent with House’s character he's an authoritarian control freak. House always manipulates people to get outcomes that benefit him; he already ran a city controlled by Securitrons. A mind control chip is just an extension of the technology he’s canonically mastered. The “why did character do xyz?” argument ignores that NV itself is full of contrived-but-consistent consequences. Mind control is a natural escalation, not a lazy plot device.>Caesar's legion has lost any and all characteractually, the show takes time to explore the internal decay of the Legion after Caesar’s death. Forgetting how to pronounce titles or mishandling a note isn’t “dumb,” it’s precisely how an empire collapses without its charismatic leader. The critique that they’ve “lost pride” is just misunderstanding that this is intentional narrative development. The cartoonish game of 2fort is darkly comedic commentary on post-Caesar chaos, not laziness.>NCR has lost its major flawsthis is flatly wrong. Season 2 highlights how bureaucratic inefficiency, political infighting, and moral compromise persist even after the devastation, showing that civilization never truly solves its core issues. You want flaws to be more overt, but subtlety in storytelling does not equal loss of character.1/2
>>732250843>stall for timeWhy is it that they always get the most unhinged faggots to shill shit on this fucking board. What does this even mean?
The virgin "Fallout Show" vs the chad "Long 15 - NCR Expansion"Both release at the same time, one celebrates New Vegas, the other thoroughly shits on it.
>>732250890>originally, the bombers were ambiguous, now the Enclave dropped the nukesthe critic’s complaint assumes the ambiguity in NV was necessary for thematic depth. Season 2’s choice to explore the Enclave’s hand in the apocalypse adds political intrigue and long-term consequences, showing the audience the scale and consequences of human ambition. The argument about industrial capacity ignores that the Enclave are explicitly shown to have preserved tech and infrastructure in secret, this isn’t inconsistent, it’s worldbuilding. Suggesting it’s “silly” is just dismissing careful extrapolation.>the games had political intrigue and commentary, now it’s just survivalcompletely false. Season 2 leans into political collapse as a theme, showing how surviving factions exploit, manipulate, or fail. The focus isn’t just scavenging, it’s exploring what power looks like after the power vacuum. Saying “nothing much of note” shows a lack of attention to narrative nuance: House’s AI, Legion decay, NCR bureaucracy, and Enclave plotting all constitute political commentary.>general silliness like weak power armorthe show deliberately subverts expectations. Power armor weakness is a storytelling tool, not a continuity error. Characters exploiting it inconsistently mirrors human improvisation under stress, a core theme of Fallout: necessity drives creativity.2/2But these will all go over your head because it's not some commie 2deep4u political shit you really want it to be.
NCR is fucked, the Home Alone kid gonna lay a series of devilishly devious traps in New Vegas
>>732244198>Tries to recreate the opening scene from a 16 year old game >Looks like shit.So many of the effects in this show are just awful when they really don't have to be. They clearly had the budget for at least some kind of quality but they just fail time and again. They really went above and beyond to capture that Bethesda gift for doing so little with so much and then still somehow fucking it up...
>>732250419As I understand the enclave does not recruit or conquer. So how have they not run out of soldiers yet?
>>732244452>BRO WE CAN MAKE ROBOTS AND LASER BEAMS BUT CANNOT FIGURE OUT TECH THAT WAS INVENTED 300 YEARS AGO BY A DUDE ON A FUCKING FARMGod I hate this series
>>732250936>Long 15 - NCR Expansionwhat is that about?
>>732249848Yup
>>732250984anon, house cant just point a camera at himself because he is a fucking corpse, to have the house of the show he would need to make it a 3d model and all.
>>732250890>it’s consistent with House’s character he's an authoritarian control freakIt’s not since house relies on robots specifically because he doesn’t want to deal with people, and mind control chips are more clumsy and shitty than just having a securitron do something. >A mind control chip is just an extension of the technology he’s canonically mastereredNothing prior to the show ever mentioned anything about mind control chips. And no brain scanning and neural interfacing is not the same as mind control. >the show takes time to explore the internal decay of the LegionIt doesn’t, nothing about Arizona or the other territories is mentioned or even hinted at and the factions and conflict are retarded. It’s literally two groups of retards throwing shit at eachother from over a dirt mound playing CtF with a fucking corpse. Nothing is explored it’s just some obligatory “here is the Legion” moment. >this is flatly wrong. Season 2 highlights how bureaucratic inefficiency, political infighting, and moral compromise persist even after the devastationThe NCR is dead, having some random retards show up at the 11th hour just reeks of trying to quell people who have been saying how shit the show is for killing them in the worst way because nothing about it makes any fucking sense.
>>732251002Companion mod to a Legion expansion one released a couple years back. Together they add the NCR and Legion areas you can nuke at the end of Lonesome Road as playable maps beforehand with their own quests, towns and characters, like the myriad of Skyrim quest and landscape mods.
Wait, did we ever get an update on the state of Hoover Dam? Shouldn't the NCR be heading for there instead of New Vegas?
>>732249751They're not even repeating them, but badly imitating them just enough to get people Leo pointing at the screen as they then shit the bed with ""Subversions"" you predicted 3 episodes earlier and an unhealthy sprinkling of agendas.I WISH they were just rehashing old shit, if this is their attempt at "adaption".
any new thinly veiled fetish episode?
>>732251223oh thats cool, is there voice acting? may give it a try when i replay new vegas
Any predictions on what twist they're gonna do for Coop's daughter? No way they don't do a Fallout 4 or something and his daughter is already doing something
>>732251330different anon, here. I checked the trailer and there's new voice acting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN07CgtOrl0
>>732250941>the critic’s complaint assumes the ambiguity in NV was necessary for thematic depthNotice how this tard says “NV” and not Fallout as a whole since he assumes it’s just NV. And it was necessary for the sake of the tone of the series since who dropped the bombs was irrelevant given everyone is dead and society is gone. Saying it was a retarded attempt to make money somehow just turns it into some hamfisted “capitalism bad” shit. There is no intrigue. You sound like some tard that is over analyzing the Sunday funnies. >completely false. Season 2 leans into political collapse as a theme, showing how surviving factions exploit, manipulate, or fail. The focus isn’t just scavenging, it’s exploring what power looks like after the power vacuumNo it’s literally just grimy retards quipping at each other and rolling around in the dirt with the occasional bit of murder. >the show deliberately subverts expectations. Power armor weakness is a storytelling toolWhich is retarded since the reason the U.S. took back Alaska was power armor so giving it a weakness like that is just fucking stupid.>But these will all go over your head because it's not some commie 2deep4u political shit The shows main message is literally “capitalism bad” get fucked you shit eating retard.
>>732251282We all know no one involved in this dumpster fire of a story played far enough into the game to know about the dam being a plot point.
>>732230496>>732233779Trannies spotted
>Mind Control Chips>Cryogenic Storage>Cold FusionI really love how the show takes concepts that several Fallout games keep a degree of realism in explaining how they flat out don't work in reality and any/most attempts at replicating them usually end up with failures or really grotesque consequencesAnd then just plays them completely straight and they work now just cause even when they break the settingWait for them to introduce time travel so they can actually go back to Pre-War
>>732251013Hey bud, you already were shown that your boogeyman isn’t here and that you’re just crying about random people. Stop talking to yourself and go fellate the barrel of a gun.
>>732213481I'm literally only watching this because Ella Purnell is cute.
>>732251430cool, thank you for the infoits sad how in both fallout and TES the fans do better work and have more respect for the lore than bethesda.
>>732251172>It’s not since house relies on robots specifically because he doesn’t want to deal with peopleno, this is exactly consistent with House. You’re misreading his core motivation. He controls everything, not just people via Securitrons. Securitrons are a means to an end, not an end themselves. A mind control chip is just a more direct extension of the same authoritarian impulse. “Clumsy and shitty” is subjective, narratively, it raises the stakes in a human story in ways Securitrons never could.>Nothing prior to the showyou pretend “it was never mentioned before” matters, but that’s exactly how storytelling works, new tech in a sequel expands the world without contradicting it. Neural interfacing, AI, and mind control are clearly in the same technological family. Saying it’s “not the same” is pedantry over terminology, not a critique of consistency. >It doesn’t, nothing about Arizona or the other territories is mentioned or even hinted at and the factions and conflict are retarded.claiming “nothing is explored” ignores the subtlety of the depiction. The Legion’s Arizona territory is intentionally minimal, showing how Caesar’s absence leads to fragmentation. The “CtF” moment is satirical commentary, not a misstep, it visually conveys chaos, loss of discipline, and dehumanization without exposition. Factions behaving stupidly is the point, not a flaw.>The NCR is deadclaiming the NCR is “dead” ignores the narrative function of residual bureaucracy and splinter groups. The show deliberately avoids convenient explanations, forcing viewers to infer the messy, post-apocalyptic reality. you want tidy logic, but Fallout’s theme is chaotic consequence. Showing NCR fragments is consistent with NV’s depiction of flawed civilization, it’s worldbuilding, not fan-pleasing nonsense.
Notice how the response repeats everything you just said back at you in the midst of its argumentThat's how you know it's written by AI
>>732220384Yes
>>732249138The Buchanan clan and the Hundred Families
>>732250890>>732251172Holy Shill Batman, this reads like it was written by an AI trained by every bad take on reddit.
>>732251430i really wish someone would try to make a post battle of hoover dam mod, that is actually decent a finished.
>Massive pre-war stockpiles and vaults fucking everywhere>Entire buildings unlooted for 200 years absolutely bursting with supplies and canned foods>The 'Wasteland experience' is that everywhere looks like New Delhi, and the people are kind of shitty>Vault-Tec intern/assistants/whatever somehow navigate the wasteland without being torn apart by the first thing they come across as bright eyed bushy tailed fucking office workers.>Rehashing the Synth plot with the mind control chips 'OoooOoOh anYoNe could be cOnTRolled OohoOOoh'What an absolute fucking shitshow.
>>732251518You'te totally not obvious at all
>>732251436>Notice how this tard says “NV” and not Fallout as a wholefirst off, specifying NV isn’t some nefarious narrowing, it’s literally the setting of Season 2. You don’t critique Fallout 76 mechanics in a Fallout: New Vegas show. And the claim that ambiguity about the nukes is “necessary for tone” completely ignores how thematic depth works. Fallout has always used uncertainty to make players/viewers confront moral ambiguity and human error. Saying it’s just “capitalism bad” is a cartoonish oversimplification, the show expands that ambiguity into human-scale consequences, which is exactly the point of serialized storytelling.>No it’s literally just grimy retards quipping at each other and rolling around in the dirt with the occasional bit of murder. this is straight up lazy viewing. Season 2 shows chaos, desperation, and moral compromise through behavior, not exposition. Quips and dirty fights aren’t meaningless, they illustrate the collapse of order and the absurdity of war, which is far closer to Fallout’s tone than pretending everyone behaves like chess pieces. Calling it “griminess” is just conflating atmosphere with lack of story.>Which is retarded since the reason the U.S. took back Alaska was power armor so giving it a weakness like that is just fucking stupid.you ignore narrative logic vs. game mechanics. Power armor in the show is a tool, not a plot invincible force. Weakness isn’t stupid, it creates tension, forces improvisation, and prevents Deus Ex Machina solutions. The Alaska example is game-specific military logic. The show is storytelling, not a simulation of tactical realism. Weakness = good drama.
>>732250890>>732250941I like how the only replies to this are seething.
>>732251436>he shows main message is literally “capitalism bad” get fucked you shit eating retard.wow, projecting much? The show doesn’t need to be “commie 2deep4u” to explore capitalism critique. Season 2 layers human greed, corporate ambition, and moral compromise in the aftermath of societal collapse. Reducing it to “capitalism bad” is just dismissing nuance because you can’t handle that the world is morally messy. Fallout has always been about human systems failing, not binary propaganda.
>>732251735I cannot for the fucking life of me understand why they want to keep going FORWARD with the timeline when all these flaws get dumber and dumber with the passage of time. if they want to write the world like the bombs just fell just, just fucking DO that.
>>732251518>shown>random peoplekek
>>732251684I want to fuck Liberty Buchanan
>>732250890are you retarded? Just shit on the show. You don't belong.
>no remasterso this is how half life fags feel
>>732251870Get in line, buddy.
>>732249848He's always fucking here dude./v/ schizos live for /v/, it's their only "real life" interaction
how are there faggots actually taking this slop seriouslythe first season had "and then the capitalists decided to nuke the world because that would somehow earn them money" as an actual plot pointyou have to actually be brain damaged to not think this is absolute rotting shit
>>732251903His post makes sense to me. Don't be retarded.
>>732251596>no, this is exactly consistent with House. You’re misreading his core motivationI’m not, you are trying to say I am because you need to defend this shitty show. >He controls everything, not just people via Securitrons. Securitrons are a means to an endUpgrading them is his end because then he can take full control and use them to make people do what he wants. He doesn’t need retarded mind control and nothing in the games backs up anything that you have said. >Clumsy and shitty is subjectiveIt makes people’s fucking heads explode you stupid faggot.>you pretend “it was never mentioned before” mattersHere he is admitting that it is just some bullshit the show makes up that has nothing to do with the games or anything else just so he can defend it. >Neural interfacing, AI, and mind control are clearly in the same technological familyNo they are fucking not, one is more or less biological while the other is based off of programming and computing. Why the fuck do you need to make up the most retarded shit and show you have no idea what you are talking about?>claiming “nothing is explored” ignores the subtlety of the depictionThere is literally nothing shown of said about Arizona, nothing not even a mention of it. Stop coping and making pretentious excuses.>claiming the NCR is “dead” ignores the narrative function of residual bureaucracy and splinter groupsTheir capital was nuked, their heartland is barren of there presence, and the tards in the last episode show up out of fucking nowhere after 20 fucking years. They are dead this is the most blatant and retard deus ex machina shit you can do.>Showing NCR fragments is consistent with NV’s depiction of flawed civilizationThere aren’t fragments, there is one group that just showed up out of nowhere.
So where the fuck this NCR army was in season 1?Have the showrunners finally realized that NCR is nor just Shady Sands?
>be told /tv/ likes the show while /v/ hates it>Find a /tv/ Fallout thread>It's also shitting on it for the most partlmao
>>732252008>BRO HE IS RIGHTWho fucking cares? Fit in or fuck off
>>732251851fallout 76 is that and they fucked up a lot of shit in that too.
>>732251971Sloppers are now trying to defend that was a 'red herring' because S2 is enacting damage control after backlash by revealing they didn't do it and it was more likely the EnclaveEven though the Enclave doing it is just as retarded for pretty much all the same reasons.
>>732213594It's both canon and pretty decent.
>>732251971somehow a dumber explanation than "the aliens did it lol"
Does Ella get nakie in this?
>>732252116>by revealing they didn't do it and it was more likely the Enclaveok but that doesn't fix the problemit's still a serious scene that's meant to be taken seriouslyand it's clownshit that even the most retarded commies must find unbelievable
>>732252089>hate something just to fit inNah fuck off tourist
There is no way faggots can sit there and say Todd doesn't hate New Vegas and New Vegas fans after this plop of shit season.
>>732252183This season was good though.
>>732252172fuck off newfag invader
I'm tired man
>>732249138A better series
>>732252183Only a mentally ill faggot would think that though.Bethesda and Todd are simply creatively bankrupt.He doesn't write the show. Just gives the "okay". Show's been pretty good "for a video game adaptation". Low bar to be fair. When Halo is the comparison, anything looks great.
>>732252183He certainly hates Fallout fans given that Bethesda still won't make a game or let anyone else.
>>732251797>>732252008>samefagging to defend his shitty takessad>>732252125>Bethesda>Canon
>>732252275>no uEven in retorts you try to force yourself to "fit in" using the same thing. NPC behavior.
>>732252028It doesn't matter. The best thing to do is to simply erase the concepts of logistics or anything like that from your head. Armies materialize at the stroke of a pen and go away just as fast. The BoS can somehow have control of Area 51 and 6 mega battle zepplins and hundreds of suits of power armor and dozens of vertibrids, but can't exert power or influence over anyone. The Enclave is somehow in complete and total control of everything that's happened for the past two hundred years and has done all of this from mountaintop fortresses with no visible presence anywhere.>>732251851It won't make any difference, Bethesda Fallout means 200 years after the bombs drop, you live on a pile of irridiated aluminum and dirt and no one has moved the Skeleton from the diner down the road, which is still wearing it's funny little bellhop hat, and also there's a completely unlooted office building half a mile down the road but we don't go there, and below us is yet ANOTHER Mt. Cheynne sized pre-war command and control bunkervault full of pencil pushers ready to run the wasteland.
>>732251832>wow, projecting muchThey literally say they will nuke the world for profit, don’t use words you don’t understand retard. >The show doesn’t need to beBut it is commie shit already and you know it. >Season 2 layers human greed, corporate ambition, and moral compromiseThey literally said they nuked the world for profit. You are trying to make a turd sound like a diamond.
>>732252015>I’m not, you are trying to say I am because you need to defend this shitty showThis isn’t “defending” for the sake of fan loyalty, it’s analyzing internal logic. Calling it a “shitty show” because it expands House’s tech ignores that the argument is about consistency and narrative escalation, not your personal taste.>Upgrading them is his end because then he can take full control and use them to make people do what he wants…except you’re missing that Securitrons are already a blunt tool. The show isn’t “making up mind control” it’s showing House innovating when blunt instruments hit their limits. That’s exactly consistent with his character, not a contradiction. Claiming “nothing backs this up” ignores the fact that House’s canon goal is total control over people and the city, and this is just a new method to achieve it.>It makes people’s fucking heads explode…yeah, and that’s the point. Fallout has always mixed dark humor with gruesome outcomes. The critic trying to call this “retarded” is just conflating tone with inconsistency. If you’re telling me explosions are magically “inconsistent,” you’re missing that House’s tech literally weaponizes human life.>Here he is admitting that it is just some bullshit the show makes up…no, you just refuse to understand how sequels expand worlds. Shows and games routinely introduce new tech that’s implied by existing canon. Just because it wasn’t explicitly named in NV/3/4 doesn’t make it “bullshit.” This is worldbuilding, not arbitrary invention.
>>732220384It is bad, NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAits so boringSeason 1 wasnt so bad about it because things actually happened but in season 2, literally ONE thing POTENTIALLY happens in an episode
>>732252015>No they are fucking not…neural interfacing and AI can absolutely overlap in narrative terms. Mind control in fiction doesn’t need to mirror biology exactly it’s a logical extension of House’s mastery of automation and Securitrons. Complaining about “programming vs biological” is literal-minded pedantry, not an actual critique of storytelling.>There is literally nothing shown of said about Arizona…again, subtlety. The show intentionally avoids exposition, showing instead the effects of a collapsed Legion. Arizona doesn’t need a full map tour, the chaos and decay are narrative shorthand, not omission. Saying “nothing is explored” is just missing the point of visual storytelling.>Their capital was nuked…they are dead…yes, their heartland is devastated, and that’s the point. The NCR fragments we see aren’t a Deus Ex Machina, they’re evidence of lingering bureaucracy and resilient splinter groups, which is exactly how NV portrays failed civilizations. The “appearing out of nowhere” argument ignores that they weren’t meant to be prominent the whole time, just a glimpse of residual power in a broken world.>There aren’t fragments, there is one group that just showed up…wrong again. That “one group” is representative, it’s literally a fragment of the NCR. NV has always portrayed civilization as incomplete, flawed, and decayed. You calling it singular and “sudden” shows you missed the narrative intent: it’s symbolic of persistence in the ruins, not a plot hole.
>>732251710Oh look the shills are talking like redditors.
When are we getting something that takes place in between 1 and 2?
>>732252381back to the discord with ye troon
ChatGPT was a mistake
>>732249843Fuck that actually would have been kino, I didn't think I could hate these faggots anymore than I could now. Granted, they would have found a way to ruin that too.
>>732252470>immediately foldedOf course you did.
The congresswoman got the worst fucking fate though. Just a floating head for 200 years fug.
On the next AI post take a shot every time it uses "quotation of thing guy said" in its argument
>>732252391>sorry fellow wastelander, we cannot remove the environmental storytelling skeleton from the public water source. I understand its adding an untold amount of toxic pollution to our main drinking supply but you see he's wearing a comical pair of water floaties and smoking a cigar, its absolutely vital we keep him there for another 200 years
>>732249848>The anon who's know to sperg hundreds of posts in countless threads for anyone liking the show is likely in here, or will be if not already.He's literally been here for hours already. You always makes an announcement post in every thread so you can timestamp his arrival
>>732248649The already exist. But they look like the men, and they're sterile.
>>732249843your mistake is thinking they give a shit about new vegas, season 2 was just used to destroy everything good about it so bethesda can make fallout 5 set in the west coast and replace it with their usual BoS and liberty prime shit
>>732252446>"NO U!"Are you so creatively bankrupt you can literally only repeat back two of the insults thrown at you?What am I saying? Of course you are. You're a Bethesda drone.
>point of New Vegas (and Hoover Dam) is that it's a jewel in the oasis>obtaining it would solve a lot of problems for many different powerful groups>destroy it>also Hoover Dam is irrelevant because there's a magic Halo crystal that makes power
>>732252618Why are they so dead set on making mid first person shooters?
>>732252440>neural interfacing and AI can absolutely overlap in narrative terms>in narrative termsSo they don’t and you’re just saying that you think it fits the plot to cope because you can’t explain how it fits.>Mind control in fiction doesn’t need to mirror biology exactlyIt is control of the brain you dumb faggot it is absolutely biological. >again, subtletyYou are using subtlety as a cope to hide that there is nothing fucking there. >The show intentionally avoids exposition, showing instead the effects of a collapsed Legion. Arizona doesn’t need a full map tourThey don’t even get so much as a mention that is their core territory and there is nothing because the writers are tards that didn’t play the games and don’t know anything about the legion aside from the most shallow surface level shit.>yes, their heartland is devastated, and that’s the point. The NCR fragments we see aren’t a Deus Ex MachinaThey absolutely are because they come from literally nowhere.>they’re evidence of lingering bureaucracy and resilient splinter groupsNo they’re a desperate attempt to say “l-look guys the ncr is totally not gone” it’s shallow and pathetic.>wrong again. That “one group” is representative, it’s literally a fragment of the NCRThere aren’t any fucking fragments they are all fucking dead, they literally just come out of nowhere with no explanation as to where they are from or where the fuck they have been for 20 years.
>>732252673it sells. todd is a businessman, not an artist
>>732252661new vegas wasnt made by bethesda so it must be destroyed.
>>732252391>Area 51To be fair, Area 51 has about as much equipment as the Sierra Army Depot's janitor's closet
Complaining that mind control is “lazy writing” in Fallout is peak nonsense. We have alien ships, energy weapons, cryo guns, power armor, cryo pods, and literal death rays. Mind control is just another piece of the same crazy-ass technology landscape the series has always embraced. If you can swallow all that, whining about a chip is just being deliberately obtuse.
>>732213481>I played games pretty often and Fallout 3 is a game that I had played for hours and hours and hours and was very taken with the tone of it and the world. So when we sat down, it was sort of this love connection of I've always wanted to meet you and vice versa. My favorite collaborators to adapt from are dead people because they don't argue. Todd is very much alive, but he had that great confidence of someone who has created a world and allowed, in some cases like New Vegas, other people to sort of create within that world.>So he had both the confidence and the experience of knowing that if you build a good enough world, people can create within it and connect to the stories that you've told. And so we knew from the beginning that we wanted to tell an original story within the Fallout universe. And because of the way the games work, where each game is a different city and a different set of characters with a different set of deeper questions it wants to ask and different ways of playing with time and all the delicious speculative fiction, the bits and pieces that go into each of these stories that, if we did it right, we'd fit right in. And I think that's where we've landed. It feels like another entry in this series and hopefully the best way.
>finish first season of show this week>it's perfectly finewhy does /v/ exaggerate all the time?
>>732252761The game really was rigged from the start
>>732251947>He's always fucking here dudeHe’s not, you just need to say that because you can’t handle more than one person saying your show suck shit.
>>732252761Mathew Perry (Benny in FNV)Also played the hell out of FO3 to the point he was begging to be in NV.Never said much about NV though lmao
>>732252391>The best thing to do is to simply erase the concepts of logistics or anything like that from your head.Which is funny, because the entire point of conflict in NV stems from the fact thaf NCR is a powerhouse nation with a powerhouse army, yet they are having hard time in Mojave, because they fucked up the logistics.And in the show, their army just materializes out of the thin air. Somehow.
>>732252752It is lazy writing but it is fine because fallout is built on lazy writing and trying to make me believe we figured out giant robots and super AI before moving pictures and color TVFallout is style over substance.
>>732252761>where each game is a different city and a different set of characters with a different set of deeper questions it wants to askwhat the fuck "deep questions" did 3 or 4 fucking ask?
Feels good knowing Fagout can't stop taking L's>mfwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOPh5ltbAw
>>732252302>>732252915BASED
>>732252841Plenty say the show suck.We're talking about the schizo.
>>732252302it would be fucking wild if they just start ripping shit out of Wasteland 3.
>>732227826I watched it and my opinion lowered compared to when I just watched the sloptubers.
>>732252761>we wanted to tell an original story>because of the way the games work, where each game is a different city and a different set of charactersand yet they used preestablished areas from the games and shat all over them in the process
>>732252752>power armorThis was developed as an alternative to tanks and allows to turn the tide in the war>mind control We just sort of threw some shit together but this is important which is why we will never mention or bring it up again
>>732252752Energy weapons and power armor don't take away individuals autonomy and free will, they were just extremely sophisticated tools of warMind Control is an instant cop-out that means anyone can do anything now because one guy put a mind control chip on them. There was no need to be charismatic or sway them to a cause or make any sort of reasonable argument to get them to see your point of view, especially if your point of view is amoral. No now you can just stick a chip in them and now you don't need to have people making difficult choices, you can just have a black/white bad guy who can just make people do bad things because he wants them to.
>>732253031complaining about it is fucking retarded either way in a series with giant death mechs and super ai.Just looking for shit to whine about like the beta cuck you are.
>>732252915>>732252965>>732252302AS I WENT DOWN TO THE RIVER TO PRAYSTUDYIN' ABOUT THAT GOOD OLD WAYAND WHO SHALL WEAR THE STARRY CROWNGOOD LORD, SHOW ME THE WAYOH SINNERS LET'S GO DOWN COME ON DOWN, COME ON DOWNOH SINNERS LET'S FALL DOWNDOWN TO THE RIVER TO PRAAAAAAAAAY
>>732252963There is no schizo, you literally just cry that people say the show is bad and say that random anons are some guy and even after you’re proven wrong.
>>732227826It's almost a weird paradox.You can't apparently criticize something unless you've tried and finished it and yet doing just that causes the thing you have issues with to propagate, and any progeny likely have the same issues which continues the cycle.
>>732253120whats the backstory of wasteland anyway?
>>732253120are they making a new wasteland game?
>>732252761>Todd is very much alive, but he had that great confidence of someone who has created a world and allowed, in some cases like New Vegas, other people to sort of create within that world.
>>732253216the game series in real life or the lore in the world?
>>732253129>you'reWrong guy. And yes there is. He can never stop himself from posting a very specific way that outs him which is why he gets called out sometimes by people having a giggle at him.Thread's dying now though so time to see what else is being discussed
>>732253075>what’s that you can handle things making sense and being explained but not retarded haphazard garbage you must be a cuckShills are so fucking pathetic.
>>732253287the in universe lore
>>732253075literally the pete hines comment nearly word for word.
>>732253298>Wrong guyProve it fag. >And yes there isThere isn’t so far you have been proven wrong in every fucking thread you do this in.>can never stop himself from posting a very specific wayYou mean saying the show is shit? Yeah real specific. Get you head checked you fucking loon.
>>732246994isn't that just a sexy trilogy of cover art though?
The show isn't perfect but it's about as good as you can expect a Fallout show to be coming from a major corporation like Amazon. Not sure why /v/ is seething so hard over it, it's fun for what it is and that's about all I can ask from it.
>>732218597they did not hire this literally who actor for marketing lol
>>7322533902 > NV > 11 is still a great game and has the best ending and atmosphere of the Fallout games, but is definitely barebones in many other aspects when compared to what came after.
>>732253301>>732253353Nice rebuttal retards.
>>732253438you're posting this bug-eyed candidate for an alita battle angel reboot as if she's an attractive figure anyone would want to look at so I'm guessing you don't exactly have a normal concept of quality
>thinks he's fooling anyonetop kek
>>732252401>This isn’t “defending” for the sake of fan loyalty, it’s analyzing internal logicThere is no logic, you are just making retarded excuses and saying that the show is “2deep4u”. >Calling it a “shitty show” because it expands House’s techYou mean the tech that you can’t argue makes sense and had to just say it was for narrative reasons which is the ground work of every idiot plot.>except you’re missing that Securitrons are already a blunt toolWhich is why he wants to upgrade their OS>The show isn’t “making up mind control”Show where mind control chips were mentioned prior to this in the series. And I mean the chips specifically not some other bullshit that has nothing to do with it. >Claiming “nothing backs this up”So you have nothing and are just talking out of your ass.>no, you just refuse to understand how sequels expand worlds. Shows and games routinely introduce new tech that’s implied by existing canonHe now has to pretend that I am arguing something completely different because he cannot address my point.
>>732253519She's cute.
>>732253438It was ok.
>>732250419Todd doesn't know we killed them in 2Todd forgot we killed them again in 3
>>732253129>>732253382There most definitely is. But it's not all that important. There are always schizos on /v/.
>>732253438>it's about as good as you can expect a Fallout show to be coming from AmazonNeat, it's not good enough though.>it's fun for what it isThat was never an argument.
>>732251746>>732251863Let the copes begin
>>732253438>but it's about as good as you can expect a Fallout showSome Korean guy made better Fallout media in Source Film Maker. This shit has no excuse.
>>732253585>There is no logic, you are just making retarded excusesFunny, because the Fallout universe literally has flying saucers, laser rifles, power armor that can punch tanks in half, cryo pods that freeze people alive, the FEV virus, and sentient AI controlling armies. Yet somehow, a mind control chip is “illogical”? By their own standard, every other piece of Fallout tech is equally ridiculous, so this complaint collapses instantly.>You mean the tech that you can’t argue makes sense...Exactly. Fallout has radical, reality-breaking tech everywhere, and we accept it because it’s internally consistent in its universe. House using mind control chips is no different, it’s just another extreme technological escalation. You can’t single it out without contradicting the very games you claim to love.>Which is why he wants to upgrade their OS…And yet, upgrading Securitrons’ OS is already an absurdly advanced feat. Self-learning combat robots with AI personalities. A mind control chip is just the next logical, insane step in House’s tech obsession. By Fallout logic, this is mundane.>Show where mind control chips were mentioned prior to this…None needed. Fallout constantly introduces new tech that the player hasn’t seen before. Alien crash sites, pre-war stealth boys, the think tanks of Big MT, the Riptide laser cannons in New Vegas, the FEV experiments, none of it was “introduced” before it existed. Saying “it wasn’t mentioned before” is meaningless.>So you have nothing and are just talking out of your ass…No, we have a decades-long precedent of outrageous, city-level tech and human-modifying experiments. If you can accept the Enclave’s orbital lasers, robotic armies, and cybernetic assassins, rejecting a mind control chip is purely selective outrage.
>>732253671the extreme white knighting and desperation he does is honestly the funniest party normally
>>732253585>He now has to pretend that I am arguing something completely different…This is the moment where your argument implodes. you are twisting your point to avoid admitting that Fallout’s entire tech ecosystem is already insane beyond comprehension. Mind control chips fit perfectly in that canon, and refusing to see it is willful blindness.
>>732248781>Da legiun dies with Caesar!!!1!>In game you can kill Caesar >Legion does not in fact die with Caesar >Legion is a nationstate covering most of Arizona and Nevada and parts of New Mexico, etc. >Legion immediately has succession of command after death of Caesar to his head general Show writers are gay for not playing the game. You are gay for not playing the game.
>>732253717I don't get it?
Sneed
>>732253802>Funny, because the Fallout universe literally has flying saucers, laser rifles, power armor that can punch tanks in half, cryo pods that freeze people alive, the FEV virus, and sentient AIAll of which have actual logic behind them and we’rent just introduced with nothing. Well aside from all the stupid shit Bethesda added and built on. >Exactly. Fallout has radical, reality-breaking tech everywhereAnd there is an explanation for it in universe and it’s not just some shit that showed up one day. >And yet, upgrading Securitrons’ OS is already an absurdly advanced featWhich is why the it is something that is explained and specifically said to be a major thing that House is hinging on, not some stupid shit he just pulls out and fucks around with.>None neededSo it was never there and you have to cope and say that it doesn’t matter that they are just inserting shit with no explanation or logic because there is shit that is explained. Wow you are doing pic related without the idpol shit.>No, we have a decades-long precedent of outrageous, city-level tech and human-modifying experimentsWhich has an explanation and a story behind it you retard.
>>732253346So NATO and the Comintern-Combine are at a standstill in the cold war, slowly expanding their areas of control and getting involved in bush conflicts like the Drug Wars. This also has both blocs get into a serious arms race culminating in them both having weapons grade lasers, power armor, war robots, and advanced A.I. The American A.I. located at base Cochise in Arizona and made by Irwin John Finster is so advanced that it gains true sentience, realizes humanity as a threat to its existence, and uses a meteor shower as an excuse to launch the nukes in 1998. A company of U.S. Army Engineers, seeking shelter, takes over a federal prison calling it Ranger Citadel and the Desert Rangers are born. Years past and Queue Wasteland 1 in 2087.
>>732253851>no u are changing argumentLooks like I was right and you do have nothing.
>>732213481they simply do not care
>>732254063interesting, are the games on steam?
>>732213594It's literally canon though.
>>732254231Yes, Wasteland 1 has 2 versions, the classic that came out in the 80 and the remaster, I recommend the remaster if you’re not used to games that old. It’s even more archaic than Fallout 1.
>>732254337any story differences or censoring in the remaster?
>>732253984How? What is there not to get?
>>732254378There is some stuff added but over all it’s the same. The style is different instead of a pixel guy and graphics your character is a model on a stand like the kind you would have playing a ttrpg, and things look smoother.
>>732254503i see, will take a look, thanks.
>>732254503I do miss the moving portraits in the remaster, thoughever.
>>732254548One more thing, that’s a pic from the original here is the same from the remaster. Also if you have played Fallout 1 you will see its skeleton here.
>>732248706You literally would just put an NPC inside the 3D model of the computer, in scene or in another cell with a virtual camera, and you have your lipflaps. You don't need video streaming to have "video" in the creation engine, you mike TV it like willy wanka. The computer operates like a computer and like the securitron faces. It's part of the art design and ignoring it because it's easier to color grade footage in adobe premier is as cheap as it is gay Amazonanon.
>>732254609Sovl
>>732248169that’s not an argument, you are literally just insisting on what the show said happenedI’m not even that anon
>>732254609Candy?
I'm just frustrated and feel like this whole thing is just shit. Might as well be fanfic tier.But goddamnit Lucy is incredibly fuckable in that dress.
>>732252183Nah, Todd doesn't hate New Vegas, he just doesn't understand it. He treats the Fallout setting like a toybox to play with, if there's a cool toy someone else made he wants to have his fun with it. It really is as simple as that.Emil Pagliarulo probably would feel actual envy for other people's work, but he's also such a dim bulb he probably thinks he's actually making a really interesting and fun contribution.
>>732248403Tactics. All roads lead to Vault 0
>>732254061Notice how the anon dodged the riptide laser tech in FNV which was only introduced in FNV.Very telling.
>>732249843>Liberty prime on his way to Colorado or wherever happens to wander through red dust storm and levels whole Spanish style town and central casino building with mcnukes>Refuses to elaborate and leaves.jpg
>>732248781pic related
>>732254790Here he shows he has nothing so has to pretend I was dodging something that he made up just now>Notice how the anon dodged the riptide laser tech in FNVWhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>732252302lol, no
>>732254784Total Cochi-I mean Calculator victory.
>>732213594The show supersedes game canon. Deal with it.
>>732253845Projection isn’t healthy
is there really someone ITT arguing with chatgpt right now
>>732253802What the fuck is a "Riptide laser cannon"
>>732253216Imagine Fallout, but not with the 50s Atompunk but instead the world ended in ‘98 and a bunch of ‘member berries from the 80’s
>>732254891>What the fuck are you talking about?I’m talking about exactly what I said: Fallout routinely introduces outrageous tech in-universe with little to no prior mention. The Riptide laser cannons in New Vegas? First introduced in that game nobody saw them coming, nobody explained them beforehand, yet everyone accepted it because it’s consistent with Fallout’s insane tech rules.This is literally the same situation as House’s mind control chip. You can’t simultaneously complain about “new tech” and ignore the countless examples of the exact same thing happening in the games.The fact that you’re now pretending I’m “dodging” something I literally pointed out is peak strawmaning. You have zero argument just insults and attempts to rewrite what I said.In short: if Riptide lasers, FEV, alien tech, and self-aware Securitrons are valid because they’re internally consistent, House’s mind control chip is equally valid. Your attempt to differentiate them is pure fan-lore gatekeeping, not logic.Kill yourself
>>732254983I assume the anon is talking about the Euclid's C-Finder
>>732254938there's fnv autists, bethesda autists, and a known schizo right now.of course they probably are. those types will argue with anything.
>>732254609They borrowed HEAVILY from the old Deathlands series
>>732254938People will shit on something so hard they'll argue with anything. Why are you surprised?
>>732254994>The Riptide laser cannons in New VegasThat’s not a thing you fucking moron. Why do you need to make shit up?
>>732254983>>732255034it's ChatGPT making things up
>>732254994Please ask the LLM what a riptide laser cannon is I actually want to see what it says
>>732251787>Weakness is... Uh... drama? No it isn't. Drama would be something like coop getting (treatable) radiation poisoning from the early model T-45d as an undercut to absolutely butchering 5ft tall Chinamen with a mini gun to the point he actually feels bad/remorseful for the slaughter. Power armor just not working because haha ghoul said there was a weakness in season1 and look a talking death law is not drama, it's retarded key jangling for retards.
>>732255038All three of those are me.
>>732255158Are the shills really so desperate they have to use ai?
>The show forces FEV, Supermutants, Brotherhood and Liberty Prime into its plot.Emil had a hand in the show, didn't he.
>Can accept there are G.E.C.Ks that create something from nothing>But mind control is too farReally grasping at straws aren't we.
>>732255238How did you know...
>>732255371>riptide laser cannonlol lmao
>>732254938there are legitimate odds that it’s essentially chatgpt talking to itselfI’m the one that made>>732226364and haven’t responded to either of them I read part of>732250890instantly recognized the writing style, and moved on from reading it or replies to it
todd's rip roarin riptide cannons
>>732255498>and moved onMeaning they booty blasted you so hard you had to rebuttal kek
>>732255219cheaper than pajeets tbf
>>732255502
Not gonna lie I always felt Obsidian went too far with the Riptide cannons.
>Anons mad they got baited by AI for half the threadembarrasing
Riptide Cannons are when I rip a fart and a laser comes outWhat do you them of THINK apples?
>>732255665I know that's you Claude
>>732255706No he's still pushing boulders
>>732255579And somehow more competent
Who can forget the classic line from fallout New Vegas "They asked me if I had a degree in theoretical riptide cannon design and I told them I had a theoretical degree in riptide cannon design" I'm so glad they referenced it in the TV show. Such attention to accuracy, I feel so seen
>>732255371not that anon, but I am the original to complain about itthe realism of mind control was never the issue, it’s the effect it has on story and characters that makes it lazy regardless of setting, see>>732245540and>>732253070
>>732255551reading comprehension isn’t really your strong suit
>>732252761>"I like ruining the works of dead people because they can't complain or call me out for ruining their works.">"We wanted to tell an original story, so we gutted a much better one to wear its skin as camouflage.">"Deep Questions, like do I nuke this friendly town for no reason or choose NOT to eat the babies?" What a fucking chud>"If we did it right, we'd fit right in. And I think that's where we've landed."The word he's looking for is "Crashed".>"It feels like another entry in this series"Oh this definitely feels like just another entry in Bethesda's Fallout alright...
>>732232257>and then the reveal comes out and it's all fine and dandyHas this actually happened to any of the lore breaks in the series?