https://www.gamesindustry.biz/were-not-going-to-topple-steam-epic-games-store-head-steve-allison-heralds-the-path-of-co-existenceTimbros...what went wrong...
>>732217817ant heralds the path of co-existence with anteater
>steam is not a monopol-ACK
>"We're not going to topple Steam">*starts copying it*okay but why nowhow could this take them 9 years to finally realize
>>732217817Games store's shouldn't exist they take 30% of your budget and do nothing.Make a great game and people will buy it anywhere.But people don't make great game's
>>732217891>companies have to constantly own each other forever or it's a monopoly.You're a fucking idiot.
>>732218007Tim Sweeney's singleminded obsession with toppling Steam bore no fruit after a decade and the other shareholders are finally pissed enough to tell him no, probably.
>>732217817Wait if Timmy complains that Steam is a monopoly and his goal was to topple Steam, wouldn't that then make the Epic store the new monopoly?
>>732218679It's almost like he's a hypocrite who doesn't give a shit about the customers.
>>732218638The sad thing is that if he spent all those fortnite bucks on making games, he could've drawn users to those games, as platforms in themselves, and reaped more than enough money to offset any platform fees. And those users would be happy and loyal because they got some good games to play. Instead he went for the tedious and difficult endeavor of making a storefront, which completely fucking failed and offered no value to anybody.It's so simple, just make something of value and users will come. Nobody values yet another launcher or a separate parallel store. Players value games, developers value the tech used to build them. His whole company is based on this, and he doesn't understand it. All because he wanted to ascend to the level of Google or Microsoft, where you can shit out anything and users are forced to accept it regardless of value because there's no alternative. He thought Valve was the same thing and completely missed the mark.
>>732217817Fucking finally.... does that mean they will fix their dogshit submission process so studios don't have to take a gamble on whether the 6 months+ of mobilizing their entire team trying to get the game up to Timmy's obscure validation process will even pay for itself?No?Guess nothing's actually changing then.
GO ON LADSTHIS ONE'S ON ME
>>732217891>steam doesn't change anything>no one has any desire to swap off>tell their friends to use it>gaben wins by doing nothingreminder that being publicly traded is a death sentence in the modern day. almost everything wrong with society right now comes down to shareholders, every decision is made with shareholders in mind instead of consumers. except at privately owned companies like valve.
>>732217817So this means EG games like Unreal will get back to Steam and GOG?
>>732217817Except peoples libraries of epic games are becoming bigger than their steam libraries thanks to the free games. Soon their steam library will pale in comparison and they'll just stop using it.
>>732218007>how could this take them 9 years to finally realizeGiven they kept going through different strategies where they would do something for a year or two before dropping it shows they have no idea what they were doing.They thought things would work so well that when it failed they fumbled for years.
>>732219682Most people just collect free games and forget they exist 5 minutes after closing the launcher
>>732219682Yeah yeah the Fortnite kids will start buying games on EGS any day now. Oh wait Fortnite is dying.
>>7322178172026 is the year when GoG and Epic make inroads on the steam Monopoly. Steamies won't like it but hey - that's business.
>>732217817all they have to do is make something people WANTFUCKFIGNFNGKD RETARDS OF THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY
People forget that Battlenet is actually pretty good feature wise, probably the second most useful platform behind steam. It's a shame it's well, Blizzard and their game catalog. I have no sympathy for these other shit platforms, especially Origin.
>>732217817Kek, glad these chinks are finally admitting defeat on their cancer store
>>732217891I hate monopolies with a passion but in Valves case its 100% a good thing. Unlike all the trash ass launchers Steam is actually good. They also massively helped improving Linux gaming, their hardware is also minimalistic and gives you actually options and overall Valve is a perfect middleground between mainstream and a customer first apporach. On PC you either go with Steam if you want to play recent stuff and a decent launcher or GOG if you want to literally own your games. Fuck everything else. Epic tried to foce their way into PC gaming by buying and holding games hostage, gifting games and still failed because ultimately they still suck. They didnt fail because Steam went out of their way to destroy them, they failed because people still prefer Steam for good reasons.
>>732217891>competition fumbles the ball at every available opportunity to the point that Valve doesn't even realize certain stores were intended to be competition>Valve does nothing but tweak things or add a feature here and there>this somehow means steam is an evil monopoly and must be dismantled
>>732217817And the best part is that Steam didn't have to do a single thing.Do nothing; keep winning.
>>732220721Maybe so, but Battlenet would be deader than Epic if it released today. Blizzard is just grandfathered in to all kinds of shit other companies can't get away with. Selling an MMO then charging for expansions AND charging for subs AND having MTX. Requiring their launcher to play old games they barely even maintain, ladders full of hackers, the community sucks it up because the games are just that good. They got panned for the real money auction house yet Diablo is still huge. Blizzard can get away with anything.
>>732217817>ignore the regional pricing main issueFucking elephant in the room. Epic deserved getting shit on
>>732220876The uncomfortable truth is that benevolent monopolies are the most efficient, most profitable, and most ethical corporate structure. Just like how benevolent despotism is the best form of government in every way. The trouble is getting there and staying there, but when you have them they're great. If Valve goes public all those upsides are liable to be thrown out the window, for instance. But that's not our problem, not yet anyway.
>>732219774I have no idea how many I've redeemed, haven't played a single one or even downloaded the installer. The only list available seems to be receipts, which is hilariously inept and fails to entice me to install their installer.
>>732218679Yes because he's a hypocrite. Unreal Engine is literally a monopoly and he wants to cry about steam. He circumvented payments for digital cosmetics, aka 1s and 0s, crying that apple and Google shouldn't take 30% when he charges zoomers $20 for literally nothing.
>>732221212It's not about wanting to take on another platform, they focus solely on making theirs function and consumers do not complain about having to use it. Seriously, have you ever seen someone upset about using Bnet? That's the real issue here, do you as the gamer like using a platform.
>>732217817My main issue with epic is their terrible app, any AI can make a good UI these days.
>>732221940I agree, but I think no one's upset about using it mainly because it already existed, since the 90s. Hence why I say they're grandfathered in. If Blizzard's games were all on steam then they announced they're moving to a new launcher called Battle.net and you're forced to install it to keep playing, players would have a meltdown. Or if that their next game is exclusive to this new battlenet thing, people would at least be annoyed.
>>732217817>[sad news]this has to be the most retarded opinion you've had in the last few months of faggy larping as a journalist on v. keep it up and maybe you can land a job on fox or ign