>I have a damaged cyber chip in my brain that's gonna kill me in a matter of weeks>BTW I'm also gonna spend months in game cleaning the whole fucking megalopolis, killing the whole criminal population, and help all the people I meetLiterally the worst case of ludo narrative dissonance in gaming historyWhat the fuck were they thinking?I mean sure, you can ignore it and do all of those side quests, but for a game that prides itself in being le immersive, it sure as hell isn't immersive pushing the story back, when said story does everything in its power to urge you to do itBest part is they did the same shit in the expansion, but this time it's because you have to save the USAHonorable mention to all the side characters asking you to meet them tonight right now! Again forcing you to drop everything to go help them, meaning there's no real way to play and do the content of this game in a satisfying and immersive wayIt's all so fucking disjointed manEven Witcher 3 wasn't that bad in this regard, you had to find Ciri and it was urgent, but you could justify Geralt exploring a medieval fantasy world with limited technology to find her, make money and such
>>732234195Yeah it's awfulOn top of that you can add the fact that the game is still buggy as shit, and also the dead world with the most stock, lifeless NPC roaming the streets everEven GTA 4 in 2008 had better NPCs reactions and behaviors
>>732234195The ludonarrative never bothered me because there was never a hard and fast deadline and V is all about the “go out with a bang” vibe. What annoys me is this fixation on “nothing you do ever really matters, there’s no right answers in Night fuckin City maaaaannnn.”Buddy I have wiped out a massive chunk of the gangland population. There simply cannot be enough mooks left for at least some of these people’s lives to be better. V saves so many people and upends so much Arasaka horse shit. I get it wouldn’t make the world perfect but “nah, doesn’t count” is such a stupid way to look at it.
I can't fucking stand Male V's accent
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>>732237176i think they should have kept the original VA Im replaying it for the first time since 2020 and i love the gameplay, i love the deus ex stealth action. The gigantic beautiful city is the icing on the cake. Sometimes it immerses me to the point i have to pause. Keeping it first person was the best decision they made
>>732236676Yeah I found it weird that there were so many throwaway references to corruption in high places in gig missions and even side mission chains but they always ended up going nowhere. There's no big bad that you can take out if even just for the satisfaction of doing something. Instead the game basically shrugs its shoulders and says "not much you can do".
>>732234195I agree. They should have made the timeline for when the chip is going to kill V relatively vague and unknown to justify the games content. Or better yet, have most of it available before the heist. There are a lot of immersion mods that greatly improve the game, including one that removes Viktor's "2 weeks " voiceline.Despite some of the decisions causing ludo narrative dissonance, I think that modded cyberpunk is probably one of the best gameplay experiences available for im sim rpg enjoyers. The attention to detail for the lore, the setting, the music, god its just so amazing.
>>732237604>There's no big bad that you can take outMultiple endings have you kill off extremely high ranking Arasaka officials.
>>732237538don't worry the immershun will soon wear off once you notice how lifeless, and unfinished the city actually is
>>732237719Sure but it all seems so remote from the day-to-day of Night City itself like what goes on with the NCPD, major crime bosses, etc. Even the Arasaka vs. Militech stuff which is very interesting doesn't get much exploration.
>>732237604thisyou're just a street tough killing gangoons the whole game while GiTS is happening in the background and you can't be a part of it. It's so fucking lame.
>>732237292Shemnue actually have a time limit (and a bad ending).Meanwhile V is just a functional cyberpsycho with a rockerboy tulpa and everyone is lying to him about his condition because they are either incompetent or just fucking with him for shits and giggles.
>the chip is literally killing you!>and by that we mean you're subtly being overwrittenLiterally execute the entire writers' room.
It really is unbelievable how retarded and shitty this game is. Even ignoring all the many, many gameplay problems and bugs, the stupid lazy montage at the start of the game just so they can fast forward to having the friend you have no attachment to because they just skipped all the friendship building part of the story "tragically" die and give you an urgent ticking clock, only to then also immediately brush that aside to have you doing irrelevant miscellaneous merc shit that you could have been doing instead of the stupid fucking montage in the first place! Even just trying to type and format this shit makes me angry. What a fucking turd of a game.
>>732237538>i think they should have kept the original VA what? when did they change? are the original trailer v and in game v different people or something? never noticed and i like the male v VA
>>732234195>Sex is supposedly a big and open part of the world>Full body modifications are available and widespread>No futa NPC's walking around with bulges as big as their legsThat's the real immersion breaker
Hanako has been waiting for me at Embers for a few months now.
>>732238492I wonder if the plot would have been better if the chip wasn't actively killing you, but instead people in high places really, really wanted it back which causes you to get caught up in all kinds of high-level conspiracies. It was also weird playing an RPG where a huge part of the plot focuses on the intentions and memories of someone who isn't the player. It just feels restrictive.
you control the buttons you press anon, if you wanted to roleplay as someone urgently looking to deal with the chip problem then why didn't you?
>>732237604I'm still mad about that quest line with the politician who's been brainfucked by unknown forces and it just ends with a spooky voice on the phone telling you forget about it
>>732234195>spend months in gameNo you didn't.
i can do some wild suspension of disbelief but i'm not sure about some chip somehow rebuilding and resurrecting a human brain that's taken a fucking bullet
>>732237723I played though the game twice and loved it both times, cope more it's considered a master piece and no one cares what you think about it
>it's considered a master piece
>>732237604You're supposed to find satisfaction in killing ethnic minorities who happen to be street level criminals.
>>732234195this precise dissonance is exactly why the game NEVER mentions a specific date, so that, if you play just the story as it was intended, it seems a lot more urgent and a shorter amount of time passesSkyrim makes a similar mistake by having everyone treat the return of dragons like the end of the world, when you can sit in Whiterun with your thumb up your ass for literal decades, because it DOES have a date systemYou CAN fuck around at your leisure because they made a big open world city and they wanted you to be able to enjoy it without having a literal ticking clock hanging over your headWhether the game would have benefited from a Majora's Mask style countdown until your death, I don't know, and no one ever will because it doesn't existMaybe CDPR will add a turbocancer mode in a future update or a modder will create one, but I doubt it
>>732239779No you can't when every fucking side character eventually send you a text telling you to meet them this instant
>>732239779>they made a big open world city and they wanted you to be able to enjoy it without having a literal ticking clock hanging over your headAh yes, this is why they made the story about having a literal ticking clock hanging over your head, but couldn't even commit to this idea properlyThe game is a fucking mess no matter how you look at it
>>732239938Sorry anon, I didn't know literally every character in Night City has a leash tied around your balls like thatsounds rough
>>732240039It's not my problem if you are a mouthbreathing retard who don't understand immersion and the many things that can break said immersion
Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are better Cyberpunk games and they came out earlier.
>>732240180>Dude Sex>CyberpunkIt's Tech Noir.
>>732240214It's still a better cyberpunk game than cyberpunk
Okay wise guys how would you design the game if it wasn't centered around Keanu Reeves? I bet it be harder then you think.
>be /V/>Experts say you have X weeks to live>Don't give a flying fuck an live your awesome Merc life making NC your bitch>WOWWWW DUDE WHYYY DID YOU NOT DIE IN TWO WEEKS DUDE Ever heard of cancer patients living the remainder of their days with on a vacation booze and hooker only for the cancer to suddenly regress?
>>732234195I challenge you to count the actual days that pass in game, even in a completionist run
>>732240230You're trying so hard.
>>732240180Arkham Knight is a better open world game where you play a guy with a bunch of high tech gadgets, who lives in a stylised neon city, is infected with a virus that's rapidly killing him and has an imaginary friend in his head that's trying to overwrite his personality and that came out earlier.
>>732234195These are valid critiques and I loved the game. The bones are there but they really need to flesh out immersion in a lot of areas, not just the go-to npc complaint.
>>732240397>So called immmersive game where you have an apartment and can sleep (this also gives you a XP boost)>ACHUALLY YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE THE WHOLE GAME IN 2 DAYS INGAME AND DISREGARD IMMERSION AND IMMERSIVE, BELIEVABLE PACING ENTIRELYFucking retard
>>732240338The whole "MacGuffin everyone wants" plot is fine, and having Keanu Reeves as a side character replacement for the spic works as well. The problem is the fixation on the player character slowly dying instead of the player character trying to make it big. All that shit about Johnny Silverhand and his past should have been side missions against the background of a more ambitious "how do I become a legend and very wealthy to boot" narrative.
>>732234195"Ludonarrative dissonance" doesn't exist.It's always just narrative dissonance
>>732240786It's the narrative dissonance of going from "make your way to the top in a city that epitomises power and greed" to "I need a doctor".
>>732236676>>732237604I half agree but I feel like the game also paints the situation like a hydra, for every asshole you kill there's 20 more waiting to take their placethe dlc ending proves this further, even after arasaka has basically collapsed and is pulling out of the states, millitech wastes no time filling in the vaccum of power
>>732241164I don't mind that kind of conclusion, but it would be nice to have the opportunity to kill more assholes and explore their operations further than just some level design and recorded conversations.
>>732234195Studios really need to stop putting retarded urgency shit in a FUCKING OPEN WORLD GAMEJesus fucking christI understand your points completely and think the sameOpen world means total freedomYou don’t get any of this jarring shit in say, Elden Ring or even BOTW/TOTKThose games makes it clear to you as to what your ultimate goal is, but they never rush you towards itInstead, the games tell you to fuck off and do as you please
Some of you fuckers just overthink shit. The game is fun for what it is and you can take your time.
>>732238772This would have been so much betterLike other anons said ITT, you are never really part of the cool corpo conspiration shit that takes place in the backgroundOnly time where you have cool shit like that is the DLCBut even then, it’s still too surface levelI also find it hilarious how there is such a drastic difference in quality between main game and DLCThe main game quests and situations are like an pre alpha version comparD to DLCThis wasn’t like that in Witcher 3, main game there had lotd of quality main and side quests, DLCs were even better, but main game was still greatMan Cyberflop is such a fucking embarassment
>>732241958>so called immersive "rpg" experience>breaks your immersion constantly>duuuuuh the game is fine i am having a blast x) xDNigger
>>732237604its kind of part of the cyberpunk theme that fighting to make the world a little better is mostly hopeless, and best you can do is save a couple of individual lives or maybe take revenge
