>I Don't Like Lumen!! AAH>ok it's not called Lumen ez fix>hooray
>>732250179
>>732250179I disable everything and see what taxes my fps most and leave it off. It's always lumen and it always stays off.
any game that has little or no graphics options like this i refund
>I optimized the heck out of itSure you did
>I optimized the heck out of it>1280x720
>>732250236is that fuckin avowed doing that
>>732250179>1280x720>13 FPSGrim
>720p>13 fps>I hecking optimized it so good I obfuscated the setting name to trick people So this is the future of gayming
lets rename TAA to smart sampling feature :)
lets rename westoid developers to goyslop servers :)
I haven't bought a game in years.I'm killing studios and devs by doing nothing.
>>732250179>disable lumenWhat does this mean? Isn't lumen the strength of light generation? Wouldn't disabling lumen equate to killing all light sources? So what does "disable lumen" mean because I'm assuming it's not that.
>>732251116It’s the shitty real time illumination system in Unreal Engine 5
>>732250404ALL UE5 games using Lumen do that. ALL of them.
>>732250404>>732251472Rebirth does it tooI still don't understand why this game requires DX12 Ultimate other than gatekeep old gpus
>>732251565Not to mention games gatekeeping CPUs with SSE4.2. It’s all so tiresome.
>>732250236Now do it with DLSS 4.5 preset L.
UE5 is smeary blurry fake pixels fake frames bullshit. Graphics have regressed thanks to that engine
>>732250179Sorry, poorfag, but you VILL not compromise the artistic vision
>>732251116It depends on the fallback implementation, but in 99% it's something half-assed, because even backing textures isn't an easy process
>>732250179>people don't like thing>what if we rename it and still push it secretlywhat a leftist thing to do.
>>732250179lmfao i've played all ue5 games and not one refers to that shit as "lumen"it's bundled in the basic "global illumination" setting that goes from medium to high because devs can't fucking take their time to adjust from the absolute defaults that epic provides>>732251829for whatever reason M and L will make broken lumen even more broken. the boiling is also more visible/pronounced compared to using K. 4.5 is fuckd
>>732250179i still turned it off
>>732250179the only game ive played in UE5 that ran well was fate trigger
>>732250236modern gaming, ladies and gentleman
>>732250179Well thanks for the heads-up.Fucking hate devs who think they know what you want better than you do.
Lumen is just shitty RTX. It would run a lot better if it WAS Nvidia RTX but instead it's Timmy's shitty off-brand knockoff raytracing.
>>732250394>>732250407can't make that shit up
>>732251472It's fucking AWESOME!!!!!!ESPECIALLY WHEN GAMES IGNORE ENGINE.INI COMMANDS TO REMOVE IT!!!!
>>732250407>>732250394Found the tweet. It's actually 113 FPS. The font has awful kerning
>>732250543>fake frames>fake settingsCan it get any worse?
>>732250179I think it's time we ban the arts team from making decisions or posting to social media
i don't get it, why are devs, let alone indie devs who don't have some giant corporate deal with unreal, acting so evangelical towards objectively dogshit tech?
>>732250179>French Canadians
>>732256970Because they need to rely on these shitty engine shortcuts to produce "good looking" visualsThey are hacks
>>732256629reported your user id for hacking
>>732250179Brother I'm already avoiding UE5 games like the plague. Tricking me to use lumen is not gonna work.
Microsoft needs to go bankrupt and die, the video games industry needs to crash, Unreal needs to die, AI needs to crash, a new epoch of linux gaming and computing needs to start now.
>>732256629H-hayai
Fresh new webm.
>>732257726It's like the fucking VLC memes
>>732257865whats wrong with vlc?
>>732256629Riding with Sandevistan. Problem?
>>732257913
>>732250236>>732257726I see these ghost lines in so many fucking games now! How do I disable them??
>>732258021By uninstalling the game.
>>732258021TAA
>>732258797everyone uses dlss these days to do anti aliasing thoIve never seen those kinda after effects
>fake frames>fake resolution>fake settings>fake gamesFuture is looking bright!
>>732250179>be me>move camera>"fuckign lumen is on">find and disable itThere are many games that use lumen but don't call it lumen. He's not being "sneaky" he's just a retard huffing his own jenkum thinking he's a genius for doing the industry standard. People just figured out what lumen was on their own. In fact are there any UE5 games that just outright call it lumen and not just some form of lighting?
still think DLSS preset K is magic, dont care what anyone says the new ones run poorly and look weird though
>>732250179>i need muh raytracing for moodThis was made by 3 people without the speedup trick known as lumen, in UE4. Safe to say the dev in OP is lazy as fuck.
Why not just use hardware raytracing?
>>732259694Lumen is both, it has a hardware and software mode. The reason devs use it is because it's extremely easy and built into the engine. But it comes with bad Hardware performance, even worse Software performance, and absolutely wretched ghosting and lighting problems.
>>732256629that screenshot almost makes it seem intentional
>>732250179Lumen made me drop the first descendant and will most likely make me skip vindictus 2. The ghosting when moving the camera around is just too much especially in games where you move a lot.
>>732258021get a better GPU
>>732259694Not everyone has a 5090.
>>732256758Fake money
>>732261618I have a 4080 super.
>>732258021>I see these ghost lines in so many fucking games now! How do I disable them??1.)35.701207,-78.5950932.)35.840638,-78.8280163.)35.756122,-78.7331664.)???5.)uninstall every single ue gamein minecraft of course
>>732251116Lumen with an upper case L, bruh. Not "lumen", Lumen.
>>732259287What's the name of this indiesloppa again?
>>732262870You probably found the name already but its bleak faith.
>>732250236Cyberjunk does this shit too and it doesn't even use UE.
>>732262648Oh, Julia Stiles in Dexter Season 5.
>>732250179What a jewish thing to do
>>732250179>I don't like Voxel Cone Tracing because it has poor performance and has temporal aliasing>drop it with the release of UE4>rebrand it and rerelase it for UE5 with all of the same issues
>>732258021TAA can do itSome implementations of DLSS can do itRaytracing can do it
>bluesky/twitter dev throwing snide insinuations and insulting his prospective customers to get likes from other devsThat's going to translate to major sales and he's going mainstream
>>732256629She's fast
>>732265654No love for Hannah?
>>732250179>ah yes, let me fucking fucking lie to my customers like a filthy jew would to fool them into actually using something they don't want to be using... but then make the biggest mistake only a goyim like me could and just spill the beans on it publicly for online clout... sure this will go wellWhat an absolute fucking subhuman piece of shit.
>>732251116That's exactly what it means. It's so ugly and runs so badly that disabling it entirely is often beneficial not only for performance, but also visual quality.
>>732262562Most Anons aren't going to get the joke. But you already knew that.
>>732250179>"plays a BIG part iin the game's mood">TOP (Lumen OFF)>BOTTOM (Lumen ON)Turning Lumen OFF makes his game look OBJECTIVELY better. How the fuck is it even possible to be this blind?
>>732256629She's...she's fast!
>>732257945
>optimized the heck out of itChanging a few lumen cvars is not optimization. That's the entire unreal schtick btw. There's nothing to optimize because you fucks are allergic to touching any of the systems baked in the engine.
>>732266705>makes his game look OBJECTIVELY better.Why? The room is flooded with sodium lamps that give orange light? Why would the room be blue?
Lumen is one of the things that most degrades the final image quality. It's just not good for real-time stuff.If you're making a movie and rendering frame by frame, it's great, you'll get realistic lighting quality and it's super fast compared to actually rendering everything with ray tracing, you'll probably need about 3 or 4 seconds per frame instead of 3 or 4 minutes... But this crap is no good for video games where you need a frame every 16 milliseconds.
>>732256629>reflections are actually faster than light, retard
>>732267287realism ≠ good art direction
>we need more accessibility settings in games!>oh, but make sure the names of the settings aren’t what you think in case the CHUDS try to disable themFucking swear
>>732250236Recently I upgraded to an rtx card from my 1050ti. The first game I tested the new gpu was Robocop rogue City, and holy fuck I loath this effect do much. Things like fences and flat wall would start blinking and I thought the texture was bugging. Disabling lumen would result in a global lighting glitch where everyone looks like niggers
>>732267927>glitch where everyone looks like niggersNo that's intentional, it's a modern videogame
>>732258021don't use fake frames or fake resolution
>>732258021Ray reconstruction.
tf is lumen>Temu's RTXkek nah I'm goodnot using RTX either
>>732252370>disable Lumen in Abiotic Factor because they allow that as a setting>game looks worse and it's way darker
>>732266630every single person on planet earth would get that jokeyou are so retarded you should follow the steps but stay in the vehicle
>>732250407>>732250543>>732256393BTFO>>732256695
>>732256758>>732259116>>732269010please explain what real resolutions and frames are without sounding like a nigger from a remote African tribe, we are waiting
>>732250236is the white bar on the UI casting light on the environment??
>>732257913haven't had an occasion to post this in years
>>732256758Soon, we'll have AI-made slop games with fake frames and fake settings solely played by AI vtubers for an audience of bots.
>wildarts games mentionedI would like for you to play their game Caput Mortum, it's short and sweet but really great, great enough for me to shill for free
>>732250236I literally never get this with full lumen. I did used to get it in Cyberpunk, it's much less with DLSS 4+ but still there. But I've never had this in a UE5 game that uses hardware ray tracing. I've only ever seen it with software lumen, which for some reason some devs want to force in their game without including a toggle for hardware acceleration, essentially throwing away free quality and/or performance.
>>732250179>dynamic direct lighting: OFF
I don't understand why modern games don't let you disable effects, that would silence most of the optimization seethe as it's largely shitters on underpowered PCs being entitled.
>>732274662good catchmodern devs should be hanged
>>732275208No clue either. If I had to take a guess it's maybe because devs don't want people to turn everything off and post disingenuous screenshots on social media
>>732256629Wananananana
If you're playing a game on Unreal Engine 5 you ought to be using Ultra Plus from Nexus mods. I install it as default for pretty much any UE5 game and I never see this at all, outside of a tiny selection of games with software-only Lumen like Expedition 33. Suggests to me this is not a problem innate to Lumen but rather it's based on developer implementation.
>>732250179>UE5 fag has to lie to his buyers so he can "one up" them like the faggot he isas if I didn't have enough reasons to avoid UE5 slop
>>732250236It will never not be weird to me that all of sudden all game devs decided it was okay to ship games with anything but respectable visuals for mid range hardware.
>>732262562>>732266630>>732274283I don't get it :(
>>732258021Don't play modern videogames with the 4 horseman of faggotry>TAA and its forks>LUMEN whom the modern troons who cant code, are now trying to fake using the name dynamic lighting when it isnt Dynamic Lightning like past games(The Idtech 3 stuff and Crytek) did>Raytracing, because it is now a garbage excuse to not do anything at all, handcrafted lightning is still superior even in goddamn movie production>AI generated 40k shit frames, because the game is unoptimized as fuck and even carmack called this shit out and everyone agreed with him, if wolf 3d was made nowadays it would be a fucking unoptimized spaguetti hog on unrealEmbrace retro or even games from 2015 or 2016 and backwardsFucking Doom 2016 runs on fucking toasters, and the graphics still looks better than modern slop, same goes to fucking crysis 3 that was released prior to that.
>>732275208>I don't understand why modern games don't let you disable effectsIt takes time and effort to have settings exposed and editable
>>732251565>why this game requires DX12 Ultimate other than gatekeep old gpusForced ray tracing, that's all there is to it, and most probably M$ mandating the use of the latest DX version on their first party games, more or less like a tech demo or a way to justify its development.At this point all games should ship with vulkan by default, the only operating systems that don't support it are macos and ios, there's literally no reason to develop the same exact thing 6 different times for every console and operating system's in-house graphics api.
>>732256758>>732259116>>732269010we are still waiting samefag. Explain the difference between a real and a fake frame. We can agree that both are generated by your GPU, correct lil nugget?
>>732275208Because the ecosystem of modern gaming depends on the consumer showing off their EPIC SICK GRAPHIX to their social media peers to encourage more interested buyers, and it actively harms the project if the consumer shows off a muddy, los-res image or video of their product. It’s why the Playstation not only has the retarded Share button on the controller for easy screenshot grabbing, but the game will then add MORE post processing effects and filters to the image to make it marketing quality. You WILL play the game as pretty as we can make it so Treyjamalebronda will get jealous and want to play too.
>>732256629What am I supposed to see here?
>>732256973Seriously is there something in their water? Everytime I see some derranged lying tranny retard take it's always a french canadian
>>732257726>souless as fuck UIyikes
>>732276202its actually sovful af and matches the theme of the game and the rest of ui elements but u just aint seen em
>>732276295>low-effort straight lines that look the same as every other gameno
>>732274982>it's shortI unironically prefer short games. Thanks gonna check it out
>>732257945>>732274838Literally switched to MPV years ago for exactly this very own reason.Every time I clicked on the timeline on an over 1gb anime episode, it'd do this for like 3 or 4 seconds.
>>732275840>handcrafted lightning is still superior even in goddamn movie productionMovies use real physical lights that interact with the scene and the moving objects and actors. To simulate real physical light you use ray tracing. Movies use techniques to control the lighting for specific effect of course, but no reason you can't do this with ray tracing.
>>732276012>the only operating systems that don't support it are macos and iosApple has some smart engineers, they should figure it out honestly.>and most probably M$ mandating the use of the latest DX version on their first party gamesI think so far it's only Indiana Jones and Rebirth that require those specific shaders.>>732251726It's so dumb, I can understand that the game is more demanding than Remake because it's open world but even in towns or dungeons it just looks a bit worse than Remake
>>732276503Exactly, handcrafted and well placed lightning is still better.But retards were so brainwashed by MUH REALISM, that "realism" ends up worse than reality itself.I am starting to think that the real world these fags loves too much is the garbage MTV show.
I like lumen
>optimized>720p
>>732276738top is more realistic than bottom
>>732250236I don't really give a shit about something like this when games themselves are crap. Make a good game and I won't mind that it doesn't look perfect
>>732276818Not a sunny day like that it's not
>optimized>1024x768
>>732276818yes and I think you're in denial. everything is just more coherent, especially in open worlds where you can't control how light can interacts with other objects when using basic rasterized lighting
>Lumen: Disabled>Fake Frames: Disabled>Chromatic aberrations, yep disabled>"Cinematic" fog: Disabled>Lens Flare: Disabled>Motion Blur, do I need to say it?Why do they hate gamers? It's not just inserting ugly girl bosses that keep talking.
>>732252478yeah, I really hate them
>>732277341You forgot depth of field
>>732277341>Download new game>Spend an hour disabling garbage post processing It's so tiresome.
>>732276051UE5 runs at an internal resolution that's much lower than the display resolution and gets dithered/upscaled to shit in order to compensate for it.
>>732275691Fun fact, hardware lumen is technically no longer lumen, it replaces lumen with raytracing as lumen is VCT.
>>732278565Have you tried not playing garbage games?
>>732280092Such as?As far as I'm aware there are no good games being made.
>>732256629>SEEEEEEEEEX!!!!
>>732280173>spoonfeeding normalcattle who only play gun and ballM-m-m, nyo.
>>732250179>Optimized itBased if true but also hard pressed to believe
>>732280370>ummm i have no idea Cool.
>>732277270>open worlds exist since the 90s>but somehow lighting was an issue until kekmen
>>732266429I love Hannah, but I didn't know Yvonne existed when she showed up. I anticipated Julia Stiles.
>>732250236It's so fucking over
>>732250236>muh image quality>while running a 1080p screen and GTX GPU
>>732281518>sorry can't do real transparency anymore - please blur the shit out of the dithering like you're using some digital composite cable.
>>732251829That's not DLSS blur. It's Lumen on underpowered cards. I've BTFO a guy who posts Oblivion remastered blue videos made on his povertybox.DLSS blur is momentary and doesn't leave trails. Unless the framerate is really low or it's an old shitty preset like Dead Space Remake by default, you'd have trouble noticing it in gameplay. It will pollute screenshots, though.
>>732256629Is that not an intentional after-image effect? because it really looks like one.
This may be an incredibly retarded question, but why do devs not just use UE4 instead of 5?
>>732283101>HURR DURR IT'S NOT SUPPORTED ANYMOREPeople are still under the assumption that technological progress still occur and "need" to have the latest slop in the same way that win11 brings no value to the customers over win10.
>>732276738why did they need lumen to make everyone not blue? I guess what I'm really asking is why is everything blue to begin with before lumen is added?
>>732281518lighting in open worlds has always been vastly inferior to that in linear games. Lumen and ray tracing make it possible to achieve this quality of lighting in open worlds
>>732256629I play WuWa with max RT as well as FG and never have ghosting this fucking bad. Also this has nothing to do with Lumen at all considering the game runs on UE4.Also also you CAN use .ini commands to tighten up the overexposure on RT or enable RR.
>>732283914RDR2 looks better than all your slop and has a 1000 times the FPS.
>>732250179If people don't notice that they hate something once the name has been changed, then people are being retarded.
>>732283101Because as much as some autists (rightfully) screech and shit themselves at UE5, it allows devs to create photorealistic games with almost no effort, making them normie magnets.
>>732250236this is not lumen retard
>>732250236I don't even think this is UE's fault, this is fucking AI frame gen, all of them always give a blurry afterimage to anything moving kind of fast. UE still sux ass though.
>>732250394it's in windowed fullscreen, so the resolution value is ignored
>>732284089looks like shit to me. definitely missing some lumen global illumination
>call it lumens>gamers immediately turn it off>call it indirect lighting>gamers don't notice and leave it onReally goes to show that gamers are some of the lowest IQ mutts around that are mainly just going off hearsay.
>>732266705Are you blind? Lumen is ass but top looks way worse than bottom. The light sources are predominantly warm in this scene, yet top's lighting is cold, when it should look like the bottom. Top is a mess.
>call the volume slider the cocklickular gauge>IDIOT gamers don't even notice they can't change the master volumewow we really trolled those incel chuds, now they just think our game is a huge pile of shit with no fix. GOTTEM !!
>>732276151>canadian>frenchwhat the fuck did you expect? it should instantly be obvious we're talking about a pack of complete fucking idiots
