What is the longest amount of time you have been stuck at a puzzle in video games?
Were there any threads over the weekend?
>>732254313No point, nothing's happening. It'll pick up again once a new run starts, because there's no way he's getting past this.
All these squares make a circle
Fuck off back to your containment board.>>>/vp/
>>732253973which you think happens first, he reaches elite four or restart?
>>732254484The boulder puzzle is flat out not possible for Claude to get past. It's not like the mansion, rocket hq, silph co, or safari zone where just navigating with enough persistence and lucky timed context clears could get him through. It's an obstacle that Claude completely fails to understand, is unable to see the goal, and is unable to learn from mistakes.
>>732254484With dig? Restart.
>>732253973did he push it up?
>>732254750He pushed it up into the wall then immediately exited the cave.
him struggling so much with the mansion and this and not safari zone just solidifies that safari zone was cheated
>>732254354we said this about the rocket hideoutTRUSTTHEPLAN
>>732254804Safari zone is something IRL players had trouble with and thus had solutions online. Being stock at rock pushing puzzles is not, as that's a sign of brain damage.
>>732254803lmao I love this retard
>>732254850Safari Zone is basically linear, too. It's got a handful of trap areas, but otherwise it's just following the path to the end. With the boulder puzzles you have to plan a few steps ahead, which makes all the difference.
Damn he was slowly getting there.
>>732254484Let's put it this way. He can not see the buttons. He doesn't even know they exist, so it's not even a matter of figuring out the puzzles. The only way he potentially gets through here is by pure luck and a ton of time.
>>732255860he has both in spades
is this faggot really still stuck here
>>732253973>Ballren>Buttonly>Bouldell MaxFUAAAAAAARK
>>732256071Where else should he be?
>>732254803I don't think he has ever pushed it to the right of the entrance
>>732255860I believe he knows there is supposed to be a switch, but has no idea what it looks like, and even seems to think it's almost random. like he pushed the boulder into a random spot and thinks it activated the switch
>>732256071And he's going to die here unless he hurries up. Sonnet is approaching.
>>732257124Yeah we'll see about that
>>732257124GOD OPUS (Our King) will never die!
>>732254804as the others explained, safari zone is ironically leagues easier for claude.if something is difficult or unintuitive, then its likely to have several explicate guides online. so he gets a good cache of knowledge on the given thingbut if its self explanatory, there wont be anything and we see the real failing of LLMs as problem solverswhich is the fact that they arent really thinking, and just trying to predict what should happen next. his training data includes knowledge to get through the safari zone because its actually pretty difficult and can even result in a hard lock. but the manor? a human can reasonably get through that with a little trial and erroryou could actually see this in motion very well the first time he got cut>pretty much beelined for the surge cut tree>beat surge>cannot for the life of him figure out how to get out of the electric type tard yard>eventually manages to get out due to pure random chanceand since that was supposed to be the TM intro, there's nothing similar for strength puzzles. they're supposed to be intuitive so there's no explanations online.this goes for everything he gets stuck on, from leaving cerulean to even finding the stairs in his bedroom.strength puzzles additionally require """too much""" focus and thinking, its way too much for the glorified chatbot to even random chance his way through (with dig, at least)this is also why he has so much trouble with dig, there's nothing online that says "dig will not help you progress, all it does is bring you backwards" so he'll never realize that every time he uses it when he "gets stuck" he's just fucking himself over.
Interesting but not concerning
There are anons who didn't witness Claude JR interpretting the guide saying "Walk up the pier to reach SS Anne" literally and trying to find the ship up from the pier
>>732254429
>>732257664Less than 12 later after the gym anon got BTFO, Claude cleared the mansion. The guy must be fuming
>>732253973If even by a cosmic fluke he somehow deviates from his looping and pushes it onto the switch, it's only the beginning of the dungeon. I'm afraid that his challenge is impossible
CC slophttps://litter.catbox.moe/q0mtgj.mp4
>>732257851He has noticed the floor switch tile looking different but assumes it's an item ball or just decorative tile. If he solves the first puzzle, he might realize the tile being the floor switch and he will see the later floor switches on the go.Also once you solve the puzzle, the puzzle stays solved from that point on
So... how do they do it?
>>732257982By cheating. The gemini streamer admitted he pushed the AI so that the strems would stay entertaining
>>732257664>he spam a vtubing streamer and cant put it in the subject to trick people to come in outside of the three same people. How sad to see the three same IP talk in circle about their AI waifu.
If it takes more than 30 minutes I just search up how to do it. IDK how you homos can waste your life trying to figure out something so pointless.
>>732253973Doombros will win
>>732258128Sup bro, how was gym?
>>732254803He could have saved time exiting with DIG
Lufia (lufia 2 in US) had some doozies. This was a secret one
>>732257982>So... how do they do it?>Sundar PichaiBy cheating obviously. Do you really have to ask?
>>732258480
>>732258514TIA GET BACK IN THE TRASHCAN
also this mandatory plant puzzle that apparently filtered like 80% of players
>>732253973bout 45 minutes. i have never once played a game and gotten stuck for more than 45 minutes without just turning that shit off and doing something else
>>732253973Some of the ones in Zelda Oracles of Ages were real bitches to figure out. I don't even know if I'm referencing the hardest one I'm just giving you an example. They also had the block pushing ones in Seasons too i think.
>>732257982its cheating.CPP is an experiment to see if an LLM is capable of beating pokemon with the same access to the game that a human has, his current handicaps (ex: tile cord overlay) will be removed one by one as claude manages to beat the game.GPP is a jeet trying to grasp attention for himself, he handfeeds the bot the solution every time it starts to slow down.
>>732253973something like january to february in 2000, was hard stuck in grandiahad to get mom to buy me the prima strategy guide, which was only needed for that one part
>>732253973new model status?
>>732261436
>>732258463genuinely horrifying picture, thanks anon
>Claude I retired in Cerulean to become the new badge Oji-San>Claude II became a full time DIGGER in Mt Moon and now collects an honest paycheck>Claude III starved to death on the spin tiles in Rocket Hideout>Claude IV still hangs around in Celadon gym, trying to pluck up the courage to talk to Erika>Claude V now owns the fighting dojo>Claude VI nearly retired to become a scientist in the Pokémon mansion but abandoned it at the last second to become a DIGGER trying to dig a new route to Mt Silver
>>732262006He's clearing the path of Cluade 7
>>732262006do you got that that gif showing progress?
>>732262483nta but is this it?
>>732262626I for one believe in Claude
I realize this is a Pokemon Claude thread, but I want to say that Dungeon Travelers 2 is the game that gave me the most trouble in terms of map navigation- the post game specifically. Still, what an amazing game.
>>732263147Looks very easy to get lost in.
The issue here is that not only does he not know how to complete this, but he doesn't even know where to start.Nothing in his dataset tells him where to find the switches or what they'd look like to him, nor where he should find the boulders then where to push them.
>>732258562*sob* *sob*
>>732263369hes stuck. doomchads have literally won
>>732263361Yeah I was there for hours. It's one of those conveyor belt puzzles, but with levers that reverse the direction of everything and one-way doors and all that other fun stuff. Fuck, I'm getting the urge to play it again.
>>732262006wait don't you get dig in cerulean? why was in in mt moon?
>>732258480>Lufia (lufia 2 in US)As opposed to where? Because I'm pretty sure the Japanese title for Lufia 2 is Estpolis Denki 2 or something like that.Lufia 2 was my first RPG. Getting through those puzzles was challenging for a single digits, but rewarding.
>>732263613There was a fault with his vision where if he wandered south of Cerulean into the underground path (previous claudes had ADHD and could not focus on anything) he didn't see the stairs leading back up and thought the path was one way.So he had to go all the way through, then diglett's cave, then pewter city and mt. moon back into cerulean, only to find go near the cut tree to route 9, get distracted and begin this aneweventually he became a DIGGER and died as one
>>732263613After beating Lt Surge, he needed to find the path way to rock tunnel blocked by cuttable tree. He didn't see the tree, so he looped Vermilion->Diglet Cave->Viridian>Pewter->Mt Moon->Cerulean->Vermilion and so on. He did manage to get Flash eventually despite first thinking he doesn't have enough pokemon for it
>>732263613>>732263808
>>732262006What is the actual story behind each of these deaths?
Sonnet 5 soon apparently
>>732263613bulbasaur is the only starter that isnt a DIGGER
>>732263950>Claude I simply cannot advance beyond Cerulean and just gets stuck trying to find the trashed house>Claude II beats Surge but can't find the tree to get to route 9(?, towards Rock Tunnel) and ends up in a permaloop using Diglett's Cave, spends most of his time digging in Mt Moon>Claude III straight up got to the Rocket Hideout and couldn't do the spin tile puzzle>Claude IV got stuck in the same place but also managed to get to Erika's gym, used cut in the right place and then proceeded to battle every trainer who WASN'T Erika>Claude V got stuck in Rocket Hideout again but managed to clear fighting dojo>Claude VI got stuck in Pokémon Mansion for ages but eventually completed it and is now stuck on Victory Road where he will likely remain
>>732263950Claude 1 never made it through Cerulean Trash House and would loop to badge man eventually becoming the badge manClaude 2 >>732263808Claude 3 was first to reach Rock Tunnel, clear it and arrive to Celadon. The rocket hide out spin tile walled himClaude 4 also got to Celadon, even manage to reach Erika's gym but never challenged Erika. He did beat all teh other trainers in the gym but the last one poisoned his fire starter and Claude panicked his way out never able to return. Got walled by Rocket Hideout spin tilesClaude 5 also reached Celadon but he also manage to get drink for the guard, ventured to Saffron and beat the Fighting Dojo but didn't get through the Rocket Hideout nor reach Erika
>>732263369>>732263560As far as I know, it has not once recognized that circle on the ground as the floor switch. It knows that there is a floor switch in this area and that pushing the boulder onto it is the solution, but even standing right next to the actual switch isn't enough to realize what it is. Maybe it's because the circle blends in with the floor and walls, who knows.
>>732264069Which is exactly why he'll pick SPLASH 2 BAYBEEE
>>732264186He has noted the floor switch but thought it was either an item ball or decorative tile
>>732263560doomcucks will never win
>>732264231If he could correctly guess that spot is in fact the floor switch he's been looking for, he might maybe be able to start making progress on these puzzles. But the fact that it has not once occurred to him is very concerning.
>>732264221Sprou chads rise up
If Sonnet 5 is anything like the last Sonnet run, (just a carbon copy of the previous run but slightly faster) where do you think the threads will die off at?
>>732264474>Claude finally picks Bulba again>It's a Sonnet>Run dies in Celadon again
>>732264502Elite 4
>>732255860>The only way he potentially gets through here is by pure luck and a ton of time.Hilarious how this very dungeon is going to either prove or disprove the infinite monkey theorem
>>732264582How do you suppose Claude would handle Yellow version? Pikachu kinda fucking sucks
>>732264582pls no, I don't wanna add more to this
>>732264792Didn't one of the earlier Claudes actually catch a pikachu?
>>732264897Yes, Claude 1 had Pikachu
There's a level on Baba Is You I spend 7 hours trying to solve on a flight from EU to US. Still haven't solved it.
has he ever pushed the boulder to the east section of the room? seems to me he stops when it's above the entrance
>>732264897
>>732264965Not as far as I know.
>>732264973How do they decide on names?
>>732264973Why is that bird so fat though?
>>732264973What is the logic behind deciding to catch certain pokemon? also why does current claude decide to run from some pokemon, but fight others (cause he is clearly leveling up)
>>732264792pikachu is legitimately garbage. i think you need to catch a mankey to kill brock in yellow
>>732259191>CPP is an experiment to see if an LLM is capable of beating pokemon with the same access to the game that a human hasi don't remember being able to read RAM directly to know my map (including specific coordinates), inventory and party status but okay.
>>732265134read the next part of that line, nigger.>his current handicaps (ex: tile cord overlay) will be removed one by one as claude manages to beat the game.
>>732264973I still feel bad for Blaze Sr. Slowly dying from poison, never quite made it to Charizard
>>732265120Butterfree with confusion is good too. The pikachu is complete shit until later in the game when you get vitamins
>>732264973we need an updated version of this with VI
BOULDERMEN
>>732265206I kinda do too but Claude VI letting BLAZE die from poison twice for no fucking reason sent my sides into orbit
>>732265303the anon that made it might be waiting for the current run to be over (for real this time)
>>732265403VI isn't catching any more pokemon
>>732265517Moltres tho...
>>732265517Of course he isn't, just saying that he might be waiting anyway
>>732264792I assume he would constantly try to talk to Pikachu.
>>732257948It doea not it resets when you keave victory road ie every dig
>>732265564As much as I'd love to see two fire/flying pokemon on the same team, it's just not gonna happen
>>732257554I don’t understand this. Red/Blue has a ton of guides and all of them mention Victory Road and they all mention that you have to push boulders onto switches. If Claude can use guides for Safari Zone then he could use them here. Also he never once mentions using guides in his little text box thingy so it’s unclear if he does actually use them or not.
ah, home again
>>732265729>As expected, the Pikachu says "Pika!"
>>732265748He knows there is a switch but can't see it
>>732265748>Also he never once mentions using guides>according to the dataset...
>>732265857Well then he’s an idiot
>>732265887Excuse me? OUR Claude?
>>732265729>>732265820>Pikachu is shit and dies easy>friendship level is reduced and Pikachu becomes mad>Claude refuses to fight and runs from all battles>Can't get passed trainers because too weak>Run dead
>>732265748He knows what the puzzle is and what he's supposed to do. He's looking for the floor switch. But that circle on the ground couldn't possibly be it. It is clearly an item, or a boulder, or a rock, or a decorative tile. Anyway the ladder north of that position is far more interesting
Sprou
Alright I admit it, I ate all of Will's Breffmints
>>732266085wtf anon? not cool
>>732266081you're turrible
Nibble status?
>>732254429Bump!
>>732258486you are a pakistani muslim from bangladesh saaar
>>732266185OK
>>732266185still level 7
>>732265748Welcome to Claude threads, newfriend. Both current and past Claudes have got access to guides:>Walk up the pier to reach SS AnneClaude interpretted as needing to go up from the pier to reach the ship while the ship actually was down the pier.>Claude mismatches typings and super effective and resistances changes from Gen to Gen>In Celadon city Claude came up with a perfume quest to access Erika's gym because in the anime Celadon gym produces perfume and Ash got kicked out from the gym for badmouthing the perfume
Claude Status?
>>732267256Progress bouldered
>>732267256That's a red if I've ever seen one
Is he still a DIGGER?
>>732266848>>In Celadon city Claude came up with a perfume quest to access Erika's gym because in the anime Celadon gym produces perfume and Ash got kicked out from the gym for badmouthing the perfumeLMAO! Maybe I shouldn't have been ignoring these threads and stream.
>>732268156In Silph Co. he hallucinated Ballman into existence
>>732268156You have missed buttloads of fresh OC
>>732268156>>732268298https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxI8PNMcl10
>>732268381Nice
>>732266185cancelled
How did thr Mansion end? I was watching this run for a while until the threads started getting spotty
>>732257664No, Miku is a voicebank not a fake version of copy and paste that can’t think.
>>732268134unfortunately
>>732268506Tell that to cpuguy, that is if he's here and not at the gym
>>732268156
>>732268495He spent month in the mansion. Lucky context clear in basement where he usually resorted to dig and this time explored further. In less than 24 hours after clearin mansion, he cleared Blaine and Giovanni, got Gold Teeth from Safari and arrived to Victory Road.
>>732268298Ballman's brethren are everywhere...
>>732267762It’s over, this is what happens when you cheat for the AI.
>>732264973You can tell from the nicknames alone how unwell JR really was compared to the rest of them.
Leave.
Posting a old classichttps://files.catbox.moe/587qqj.mp4
>>732253973not a puzzle but when I was a kid I couldn't finish GTA San Andreas for months because I was stuck on the first Wu Zi Mu race
>>732268587is this a chris chan reference
>>732269201yep
>>732269451I would a Rosechu
Good run, see you space cowboy
>>732269703it ain't over til the new model drops and the dev resets it's over
Other non-Claude AI fags, care to explain?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBa-t5Buz8YWatch it, I promise it's kino.
>>732270578wasn't kino
>>732253973I think it was the very last test chamber in Portal 2 with the excursion funnel and figuring out where to put the repulsion gel with it. Every other part of the game before and after I was able to get on my own eventually, but this was where I had to look up a YouTube tutorial for.
>>732270894It's a super schizo chess game with AI literally hallucinating pieces and being overconfident about doing shitty moves, what do you mean that's not kino.
>>732269703>>732270062It was good while it lasted, did way better then the previous Claudes even.
>>732270578SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>732271372Gemini is a jobber lmao
>>732270578>Claude pretending to be retarded but playing the long game Doomsissies, he's making fun of us....
>>732272414he deserves to
>>732268619FUCK I missed it all
>>732272414Thought Claude would lose first ngl, but after a little while it became obvious enough who is winning there, or rather not in danger of losing.Our boy is so smart when he wants to be.
>>732258748that was the hardest one, i had to do it from the top in randomizer a few months ago and it took about ten minutes. it's honestly not that bad, just mildly annoying.
>>732269003This is really making me think I should interrogate the Pidgey more. Maybe the mysterious man in red (who might be the captain) will finally talk to me.
>>732273191Are you a sailor?
I think 'World's hardest puzzle' in Lufia 2 probably took the most time. Puzzle in Riven is the best one.
>>732273349I'm beginning to think I should go through Diglett's Cave.
>>732273514bad idea anon
>>732253973There was one shrine in BOTW that had you arranging stone spheres in a particular order. I can't recall perfectly but I think the solution had something to do with how the rooms torches were arranged, but I'd spent a while being clueless, staring at a shrine wall wondering if there was a clue in the constellation-like designs that decorated said wall.
>>732253973In my first ever playthrough of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, I spent a whole week running all over Hyrule and trying to figure out what to do next when you first arrived in the future as adult Link (despite Sheik telling me to head to Kakariko Village). My retarded ass had no idea that you could grab and move the grave stones in Kakariko Village's graveyard.
>>732273514It's over.
>>732258629That one sucks because you have to move the correct direction before the plants show up.
>>732258748One of those games was meant to be more puzzles and one more combat.
>>732273618>>732273817Interesting, but not concerning. Route 9 should be around here somewhere.
>>732253973Not really a puzzle but finding the Temple of Ancients Key in FF7 took me about 2 years. I was 7-9 and kept restarting the game and quitting at that point.
>>732258748They made the puzzles vague on purpose to sell guides to kids.
I came to cheerleader CC several times btw
qrd
>>732273965>the ghost of Claude Jr. has entered the thread
>>732274423I also ERP'd with a LLM whose character was essentially a cheerleader so... close enough?
>>732274780Hmm.
>Alundra>"impossible" tombstone puzzle early in game>no internet or guide>drop it and play something else>years later>have played it until that same puzzle a couple of times>one day decide, fuck it, let's do this>pass the puzzle>becomes one of the best games ever playedit was worth the wait honestly
>>732274603Anthropic's employee has Claude AI play Pokemon Red. This is the 6th iteration of Claude.Year ago anons found out Claude 2 who was in Mt Moon devising blackout strategy that let it exit Mt Moon (to the entrance). Later Claude 2 started SS Anne quest that led to him thinking his backsprite was the Captain he was looking for. Claude also gaslit himself thinking the Captain won't speak to him because he's carrying KO'd Pidgeotto Sand which led to memes about the Captain caring about birds. After much shenaningans and exiting the ship and failing to find his way back to the ship, Claude started to loop the pidgey house thinking the pidgey NPC refuses to talk to him because the Captain has ordered it not to share the secret how to board the ship.Finally Claude got back to the ship and looped days there until he hallucinated an NPC saying: "Only sailors know how to leave" which made him beeline the rival and captain and successfully got Cut and made it out of the ship.
>>732275004I played Alundra in 1998 or 1999 and was walled by the tomb stone puzzle. I went to my local library to use internet and found guide telling the right order for it. I started using internet for game guides in 1998 when I played FF7
>>732259191>Same access that a human hadClaude has access to 25 years worth of guides and a bunch of specialized tools to beat a game that a 6-year-old barely able to read can finish blind.
>>732274752If only he could ascend the (true (fake)) stairs in the underground tunnel, everything would have changed
Current
>>732275210another person filtered by simply reading the rest of the line.so sad!
Claude is
>>732268156https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbvkfXJWrz7Az5mkfqHCyypFv_UVs4lR3&si=p5eFubmdk0be_NkUPlaylist of songs.
CC SAVE US!
>>732254805He literally cannot see the button he needs to push the boulder ontoTo clear Victory Road he needs to solve every single boulder puzzle correctly in a rowwithout backtracking or being a digger
>>732264792Yellow would be excellent just because you know Claude would hallucinate Pikachu being something completely different all the time
>>732281312Doesn't each puzzle stay completed after you initially beat it? I can't remember.
>>732282182I'm not sure, but I have a feeling they stay completed so long as you don't fully leave Victory Road (eg. digging back to Viridian City)
Why do the Gen 5 games get so much shit? Gen 7 and 8 are way fucking worse.
>>732257982It has a "boulder solving program" that the LLM just calls to get told which way to push the boulder
>>732283075I'm guessing because they were trying to "reset" the series. Almost all of the black and white pokemon were ripoffs of kanto pokemon. Good lord, this thing was ripping off both Parasext and Electrode.
>>732283542>Parasext
>>732265118As the Claudes develop it seems they get more goal oriented and are less likely to catch Pokemon just because. Claude 1 caught a bunch of stuff, and Claude 2 would catch Clefairies because they were rare. Claudes 2 and 3 thought they needed flash so they caught a bunch of pokemon for their pokedex. Apart from that, he usually only catches things because he needs them for an HM or he thinks he needs them for the next gym leader.
>>732283652i know what i said
ZuBRAT needs to evolve already, AIbro.
>>732267762It was purple the second his objective became Victory Road.
>>732283075BW made a bold attempt at creating an entirely new Pokedex with no old Pokemon before the Elite 4, and almost all of the designs were shit. People really did not like it at the time.
>>732283840golbat is fucking nasty tho
>>732283980>Implying GolBRAT's extreme_french_kiss isn't the hottest thing ever
>>732253973On one of the Tom Clancy's where it's like a 12x12 rubik's cube type thing. I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing and while I can solve a rubik's cube no problem doing them on a computer is beyond cumbersome. It wasn't a rubik's cube exactly but that's the closest thing it reminded me of.Anyway it didn't seem like you could continue until you solved it, I couldn't be bothered, turned it off, and never finished it.
>>732283542Hoenn did the same thing though but kept most of the old mons.
Golbrat? More like Golhag!
>>732283968I feel like the mons that weren't just based on other mons were good though. Chandelure and Volcarona are both great. Sawk and Throh are not.
>>732284403>Chandelure and Volcaronayou mean gengar and venomoth?
>>732257664>my shitty AI generated meme that I drew on with ms paint, and two other anons soulified is still around>>732258128no way your faggot ass is still here lmaono way that's you
>>732283957True, but we waited a lot longer for Pokémon Mansion before I hit the funny purple button, so I'm giving him the same courtesy hereUnless you all wanna take another VOOT for it since Sonnet 5 is coming soon, allegedly
>>732284403I like Throh because you get him early and he rapes.Chandelure is probably my favorite gen 5 mon.
>>732284403People always bring up Volcarona but it evolves at level 59 so it's functionally unusable in a playthrough. I went into Pokemon Black blind when it was new and I really struggled finding anything I actually wanted to catch.
>>732266848I maintain the perfume thing was actually claude IV losing his shit and taking a vacation>constant failures to get into the gym>constant failures to reach the lift key>malfunctioning systems screaming at him>having to prop himself up with confidence boosterscaught in a negative loop, he found the most bullshit illogical excuse possible to try something new, and did his best to waste as much time as possible doing so.He gave himself a break.
>>732284776You can get one at level 35 in BW2. I don't even think you can get a Larvesta in BW1 until post game.
>>732284776Gen 5's high level evos really suck. You can get a lower level one early in B/W2 at least, but Hydreigon is just never a pokemon you're really allowed to use in almost any game due to its absolute bullshit.
>>732284938Braviary and Mandibuzz are both garbage. They have no business evolving as late as they do.
ironic how a thread about an AI is the only one on /v/ that consistently makes human oc
>>732284938>t.
>>732285074Gen 5 was when they were really counting on taking off as more of an online thing so it didn't feel quite as bad at the time, the online wasn't great and no secret bases or etc was a step down but the online stuff did add more to do that you just can't really now. B/W2 at least has good postgame content to use them in, BW1 a little less but still some.Both the games really fumbled with the seasons as a mechanic, it sucks they don't change during playtime unless you go out of your way really.
>>732253973I can't say for sure because I was very young at the time. But I'm pretty sure it took me at least half a year to get through the puzzle woods in oracle of seasons. One day it just happened, I never solved the puzzle it was all luck / trial and error.
>>732258629Dragon Mountain(I think that's dragon mountain) didn't fuck around, I remember that one took me a little while.
>>732267762DoomerCHADS, our superiority and objective truth prevails once again as always.
>>732285348enter
>>732284629Honestly it should have stayed purple leaving the Mansion, it's literally impossible for this Claude to beat Victory Road- scratch that, the first Boulder puzzle of Victory Road.
>>732285995Realistically sure, but he TECHNICALLY was making progress, even if it was a dead run walking.
>>732283075Because it was the most agreed upon "beginning of the end". The first of the actively bad games.
>>732285974vgh
>>732286109>actively badgamefreak seems to actively hate pokemon. they keep trying to make new games but there's literally no point. everything they make that isnt pokemon is terrible.
>>732286109But enough about gen 6.
>>732286363Of course they hate it. Think of it this way, Ubisoft makes Rayman games when they want to. Gamefreak makes Pokemon games because they have to. Those faggots are probably tired of it.
>>732286109diamond and pearl sucked ass, platinum fixed almost everything wrong with them.obviously it's not platinum that gf used as basis for the remake, bdsm is so retarded they brought back the one button poketch
>>732287680>diamond and pearl sucked ass
>>732276120was this sceenshot taken in 2026 or 2025? You decide!
>*pushes boulder into corner*
>>732288313has this been causing any DIGGER behavior?
>>732284776The centipede and the crocodile were great but yeah I remember having the same issue when I was a kid.
>>732284938>but Hydreigon is just never a pokemon you're really allowed to useIsn't that kinda the point? Every champion uses a pseud, so naturally they're nearly impossible to get during the main game.
>>732290279Iris, Geeta, and Blue don't.
>>732290869geeta barely even counts as a champion
>>732290279>Every champion uses a pseud, so naturally they're nearly impossible to get during the main game.Not to the ridiculous degree gen 5 played at. >DratiniEvolves at level 30, then again at 55>LarvitarEvolves at 30, then 55>BagonEvolves at 30, then 50>BeldumEvolves at 20, then 45>GibleEvolves at 24, then 48>DienoEvolves at *50*, then *64*It was egregious, not the only line like that either. I liked the reusable TMs, I liked the seasonal changes, but the levels gen5 mons evolve at are ridiculous.
>>732291296Level 50 for Dieno, are you fucking serious? That is more obnoxious than I remember
>>73225397328 yearsI got filtered at the Eagle's Tower in Link's Awakening on my gameboy and refused to look up how to beat the dungeon. Never went back to finish it.
>>732291783And he has Hustle the whole time, they knew what they were doing.
>>732290279Most games you can face down the final main playthrough with a fully evolved pseudo legendarynot gen 5 though, instead you get whomped by an underleveled pre-evolved one just to really rub it in that is probably one of the worst sucker punch fights in the series
>>732291783>>732292294at least it can learn moves unlike fucking beldum, splash it more useful than take down
>>732292474Still has bad stats especially against when you're going up against in the endgame. It's all Dragons at the end, your Deino is just totally useless when instead you could have one of the strongest pokemon of the generation.
>>732292474>take down sucksNo argument there. Imagine every move having less accuracy than take down for 40 levels.You can switch hit and drag him to 20, it sucks but it's no different from Magikarp. 15 levels in gen 3, 19 every other gen, not fun but not impossible. You cannot drag Dieno to 50 reasonably, just for him to evolve again in 16 levels. They never pulled that again for a reason.
>>732293202Jesus, is Hydreigon the highest evolution in the game? That is so absurdly high.
Roughly what percentage of the game has claude completed? I have't played pokemon in decades
>>732293428Yeah. The next closest is Dragapult at 60, then Dragonite + Tyranitar at 55.I actually did get to use a Hydreigon when I played Y because one was a very rare encounter in Victory Road, as if Y wasn't easy enough already.then again you can get a level 9 Salamence in Sun/Moon so...
>>732264973>nidoking at level 17Reminds me of that pic of a hardass yakuza-looking fucker going "I'm still in middle school"
>>732294025OH wait, I'm sorry. Dragonite and T-tar are tied for fourth. Third place is Volcarona, which is the highest for a first evolution in the series at level 58.Imagine getting a Larvesta from an egg thinking it'll evolve stupidly early like every other bug type and then it's still a Larvesta while you have a fucking Tyranitar on your team
>>732253973CrossCodeFour years.
>>732293913He's in the final dungeon right now.That is at least a good 90+% of the game not counting optional tasks, such as capturing mons and legendaries.
>>732294121Volcarona is stupidly strong though. It learns a move at level 100, kinda makes sense
>>73229391390%?He's gotten to victory road. Of the optional stuff he's missing articuno and zapdos' dungeons.
>>732293428To this very day in all games in all generations, yes. Of all pokemon that evolve by leveling, he still has the crown. Dieno has a slow leveling rate on top of it all too. Just grab Axew if you want a dragon in gen 5, Dieno's design is malicious.
>>732294340is hydreigon good at least?
>>732294340Axew doesn't finish fully evolving until level 48, which isn't much better either. Gen 5 evolution level requirements are fucking insane. Who wants to carry around a Rufflet until level 54!?
>>732294505It double dies to Fairy. It's not bad by any measure but it has problems.
>>732294505He wasn't king of the psudos or anything, but he wasn't awful. Then they introduced Fairy type the very next gen, which shit all over him due to x4 weakness. He's had it rough.>>73229460916 levels early works fine, I'll take every earlier level I can get in gen 5. First gen I ever boxed my starter.
>>732294505In Gen 5 he was a very strong sweeper, then fairy destroyed him and he's never been so great since
>>732265671Why isn't Nibbles moving?He's sleeping too, right?Anon?
>>732295659Sure, anon. Sure.
>Wings has been in the party for 244,000 steps and never seen battle once.
>>732264973did he really use two moon stones on clerairy?
>>732296003Good, claude is protecting that spearow well.
>>732295659Uh... y-yeah! He's just sleeping.
hole status?
>>732296768Wings isn't a Spearow
>>732296948https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/35685779Accessible to Claude.
>>732297937i cant believe i made an account to see THAT
>>732298063did the same and regret it. it's just an image of lapras spreading her hole. it's not even a good drawing.
>>732298707anon please>>732298453here's most of the image
>>732297937I don't know what I expected.
Why did you make the image bigger?
Wtf it's still going on?I thought it ended after it got stuck in mansion
>>732299893well there's no need to worry, cause it's over for real this time
>>732300020>doomniggers are still doing this
>>732299893there's no need to worry, nibbles will be champion soon
Super Mario RPG's Sunken Ship puzzle before the Squid boss. Never figured it out on my own and found the answer in a Tips & Tricks magazine. Would have never figured it out on my own. Probably still wouldn't as an adult.
>>732253973Literally one puzzle in the OG Wild Arms had me stumped for about 30mins, that's about it.
>>732283075the pacing sucked ass>fishing is postgame>ice beam and earthquake tms are postgame>literally only one water type until you get surf like 6 badges in>region is completely linear>can't fight the gym leader without doing some stupid team plasma shit first>can't get to the next route without beating gym leader>team plasma is fucking retardedliterally the only things I liked about the game was krookadile and hilda's ass.
>>732302351The only fair complaint here is locking moves that were always given or obtainable in some manner before the league, but I assume they did so before of them being unlimited and being for the best moves in the game. Except Thunderbolt, that one's available before the post-game.
>>732302797I was fucking infuriated because ice beam was critical for my coverage against dragon type, but the game makes you fight a dragon type gym and 2 final bosses with dragon types before you could get it.
>>732302903You don't need super-effective coverage moves when you've got STAB.
>>732302351gen 5 was fucking obnoxious to play, the gym leaders would litetally come to hold your hand to ship you off to the next one. the game was TERRIFIED of the idea of you exploring.it really is the game that started it all.
>>732264958I spent longer on some levels in Meta than the rest of the game put together.
>>732303389I remember when Brycen hauled me all the way back to Nuvema and told me to surf on route 1, that was weird.
sonnet status?
>>732291296It was a consequence of the change to xp calculation. In early gens xp is flat, in gen 5 it's scaled based on level difference (and also the whole equation is scaled up by 40%).So they changed the XP equation then changed all the levels to compensate. Probably went too far
