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Really, what did he mean by this?
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>>732267882
>filename
LOL
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>>732267882
Where is his Gaiden game* He's the 3rd most popular character in the series
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>>732267882
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>>732267882
Why do all the characters in the Yakuza franchise look like they've gotten eyelid reduction surgery to look less Asian
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>>732267882
>long hair: soul
>shaved head: soulless
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MOOOOOOOODSSSSS!!!!!!
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>>732267967
>He's the 3rd most popular character in the series
lol
lmao
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>>732268337
https://ryu-ga-gotoku.com/campaign/20thvote/en/
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>>732267882
kino
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>>732268396
Kiryubros....
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>>732268396
What the hell I don't even remember half of them and no Akiyama?
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I prefer to go balls in
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>>732268396
ICHIBROS NOT LIKE THIS
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>>732268396
>No akiyama
>Tomizawa THAT high
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>>732268396
What the fuck? Is this a woman's poll?
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>>732268396
So why did Majima's gane flop so hard then?
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>>732268396
>One-off character from IW got into the ranking thanks to being a member of a popular JROCK band
kek
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>>732268818
It's a jap poll which is why the popular irl jap guy is #5 despite playing a completely forgettable character
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>>732268396
I would like Ichiban more if he actually looked like that in the games instead of a big eyed muttoid
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>>732268968
bug eyed*
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Pirate Yakuza is on Game Pass. Would you guys reccommend it if I haven't finished Infinite Wealth?
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>>732267882
It's penis inspection day at the Morning Glory Orphanage.
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>>732267882
my uncle used to say this to me when he came to visit
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>>732268396
girls won
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>>732269054
Its an epilogue to infinite wealth so you should finish that one first
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>>732269054
>Can I ski-
STFU.
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>>732268396
I'm so glad the Ichiban experiment failed and that 9 will be his last game. Get that annoying faggot out of my franchise.
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>>732269314
but he loves video games just like you!
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>>732269314
they're gonna give him the yakuza 4 treatment where you'll play as him and a couple other guys they're trying to set up as the potential new protagonist
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>>732268396
>Ichiban last
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>>732268396
>Nishiki 4th
Not looking forward to the meltdown when he comes back as a daidoji agent.
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>>732268396
>Nishiki 4th place
how will Masayoshi Yokoyama bring him back in Yakuza 1 Kiwami re-remake?
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>>732268396
Who is that at #10? Because it sure as shit isn't this guy
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>>732269054
If you have gamepass why not.
It's not a bad game, it just could have been better.
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>akiyama never got his own game
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>>732269579
Ban super popular VAs.
This would have become an Akiyama series if he wasn't so busy.
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>>732269571
I think people wouldn't have been so harsh on it if it was a non-canon spinoff but it's literally a direct sequel to 8 instead
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>>732269674
It feels like they could have easily made it a spin-off.
I think even dead souls follows off another game but it is non canon as fuck.
Just wish they would have given it the serious thought they gave Kiryu gaiden instead of making it the silly Majima game, it's still fun to play at least.
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>>732268396
>not even allowed to vote for yagami

There really is no hope for judgment 3
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>>732269202
Alright
>>732269212
I figured it was just some goofy side shit.
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>>732267882
You will understand when the time is right. Someday you have to go balls out with a hail of buller rubbets.
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>>732268396
Some jap-only poll when the series was saved and is currently being carried by the west is a nothing-burger
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>>732267882
THE SELFISH DEED
IS NOT FREEDOM
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>>732269905
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio's has gotta stop using faggy real actors in their games so this shit stops happening.
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>>732269905
The actor's agent was very strict about showing his face around.
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>>732268396
I was expecting to see Ichi evolve from a bumbling retard to a proper protag but no.
Such a let down
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>>732270325
I really don't get why they hate him. The whole scandal thing was resolved, the dude is working again, and he's said he'd like to work with rgg again.

But they just act like the character doesn't exist. If it was a problem with the actor then fine recast him. It wouldn't even be the first or 3rd time they have changed the face and voice for a character. It's like RGG just hates the character yagami in general.
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>>732268818
Woman franchise.
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>>732270523
The first game was actually handling his development really well, I just think he was made to be a sidekick character.
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>>732270546
They'd have to book him years in advance, he's a busy guy.
At least we still see Kaito, the best judgement character.
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>>732270615
Exactly why I was expecting him to grow more in the second game but it seems like the character is already "developed" and just retards around from now on.
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>>732270712
Ichiban was narratively raped by Infinite Wealth because it was Kiryu's game.
Kiryu actually had really good development in it, but at the cost of what was meant to be the new protagonist...
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Im a zero-tourist, which games should I play and in what order?
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>>732270826
guess
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>>732270826
all of them
release order
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>>732270826
1-8, nerd
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Saejima in Yakuza 4
>"Killing a man is like... It's like... It's fucking terrifying!!! *start crying*"
Saejima in Yakuza 5
>"If Majima got killed it's cuz' he was a weak little bitch."

What happened?
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>>732270826
The games are numbered for a reason dude.
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>>732270826
Next play Kiwami 1, then Kiwami 2, then either Yakuza 3 or wait for Kiwami 3, then 4, 5 and 6.
You can then play the jrpg games starting with 7 and ending with 8, play gaiden inbetween 7 and 8, then play Pirate yakuza.
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>>732268396
What? No Akiyama?
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>>732270774
True.
Still feels like they felt as if Ichi is now complete and capable of becoming another member of the "main cast".
Hopefully I'm wrong
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>>732270879
Yakuza 5 was written by mentally disabled people, it's so bad it ruined yakuza 6 too.
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I know I'm late but what did everyone think of pic related?
I just finished it recently and I thought it was very fun even though I could tell a couple of chapters in that they had no real plan for this and they were just making shit up as they went, but the last chapters and ending were beyond retarded and left a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>732270917
>or wait for Kiwami 3
DON'T play Kiwami 3
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>>732271110
I thought Infinite Wealth was really good but I love jrpgs so I'm biased and mechanically it built on everything that made yakuza 7 good.
Storywise it was silly and stupid but it had great narrative moments which is what I hope for in this series.

>>732271121
I will redeem the Kiwami 3 because it has my favourite villain in it.
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>>732268396
NISHIKIIIIIIII
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Ichiban Kasuga was raped in the hot summer of 2023.
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>>732272164
KWAB
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>>732268396
>name means "number one"
>dead last
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>>732271110
I'm sort of in the same boat as you. I had fun, I like the combat improvements, but the story is kind of a mess, some characters are absolutely wasted. I geniunely forgot wong tou existed and died until they found his kid at the island. That fake-cripple guy also fucking disappeared at the finale until the credits, it's like they cut off his scenes or something, all that buildup for nothing.
Also, the amount of side content, mandatory or not, felt exhausting at times. I finished the game last week and after completing the dungeons I don't even feel like doing the rest of the substories, nor do I feel like touching the side content. I just got kinda tired of the game near the end.
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Ichiban Kasuga, more like Ichiban Kusoge
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>>732273304
More like Ichigone, replaced by Chadryu.
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IchiBAD
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>>732273346
>chadryu
>raises some other guys daughter
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>>732268337
He is and since kiryu turned into a blank state after 3, saejima is the true new protag, excluding saejima y7 and onward. Rubber bullets are idiotic, as they assassinate his character. Shame that honorary Jews will never risk anything and glorify the redemption of a mass murderer.
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>>732268396
Protags aren't even leading, lol. Until lad I'd argue that ichiban was their best character, but then iw came. How purple homeless guy is popular is beyond me. Nishki had like 2 games as side character and is among top 5, just shows people want darkness and drama.
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>>732269559
They used the same technique that capcom used in re1. Dual face or so it's called. To show his step up from 0 to hero.
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>>732275048
Can hardly hold it against him when he pretty much killed the other guy.
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>>732271110
Bad game. Fun to play as urban jrpg, but the character assassinations are unbearable.
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>>732271121
Replayed y3 remaster and must say now that I get how the hostess game works, I like it. Only pool and golf left.
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nice
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>>732268131
everything about him in 5 was terrible, dude didn't weep for his bro's death and his part included baba
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I hope Yamai comes back bros...
He was an actually well written new character in Infinite Wealth, if Sawashiro can come back he can come back too.
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>>732269314
I stopped following the series after ichiban was revealed, glad to know the series has a chance to be good again
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>>732270520
christ sake, the old boss of the agency died and the new one is apparently more lenient. The real reason is that judgment was Nagoshi's pet project and Soikoyama hates anything with the bog's mark on it
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At least Judgment started with kino and ended with kino.
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I've played all the ones up through the Ishin remake.
I think I'm done, to be honest.
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>>732276158
Any part with Kaito is kino, any part without Kaito is cringe.
Kaito should be promoted to a yakuza mainline character.
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>>732276102
>The real reason is that judgment was Nagoshi's pet project and Soikoyama hates anything with the bog's mark on it
But Soikoyama put Kaito and Sugimura in the gaiden games.
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>>732271110
more or less the same opinion that you had.
I'd rather replay it than 7, but it's the real ass beginning of all the problems the mainline series has gotten.
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>>732276294
shit, you're right
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My goth wife Saeko...
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>>732276548
psycho stare
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>>732268072
if they were trying to look less asian they would ADD an eyelid, not reduce them.
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>>732276548
I use that outfit, too. She's not in my main post game team though. Kiryu and ichiban are just too good. Have the Korean and the the useless old fart. Idk, I like him.
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>>732276249
I doubt he works as protag, but is awesome as sidekick.
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>>732273137
I'm doing all side content and will replay on legend, but will skip most of the scenes. Sujimon was a nice idea, but it's too goofy.
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>>732278234
Is he from y0? He's an enemy in y7g.
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>>732278543
Sodachi is a a bit of a joke character that has been around since about yakuza 4?
He's pretty funny.
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>>732270615
7 game was basically "what if daffy duck got shot, went to prison and became homeless". Ichiban only works if he's being put through a crucible trying to break his indomitable spirit. IW was Ichiban unchained in Hawaii where you see the fact that he's a 50 year old Luffy on full display
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>>732271110
Ichi story is a rare gem of 0/10 story
Kiryu story is a solid 7/10
Gameplay is 8/10, shit's fun
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>>732268396
>no kuze
shit list
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>>732268396
How is fucking Tomizawa on that list. Is it just because he points a gun at you? Is it that easy to get women to like you, just threaten them with violence and you're popular? Because the guy is a unlikeable loser in every other way
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>>732280436
Because his actor is in a japanese pop band
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>>732268396
Here's the rest
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>>732280436
His Japanese actor is famous. And he eventually gets his shit together, compared to the beginning of the game in comparison at least, by the end.
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>>732280572
>Zhao over Akiyama
On what fucking planet
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>>732280572
Why is Higashi there anyways? He did literally nothing in both games and was kind of a cowardly little shit
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>>732268396
>IchiKEK last
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>>732280572
>highest ranking female is a sharttuber
Just end this franchise already
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>>732278953
Ran through the whole series and now going to do everything. Stuck at k1 car chase. Will skip je though, too buggy.
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>>732268072
JOMON CHADS
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Joryu!
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>>732281439
Akame should be more popular
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>>732281439
Disgusting gook face
>>732281608
No
>>732280778
33?
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It can't be THAT bad, right...?
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>>732282396
It isn't, but it's also not that good either.
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>>732282396
It's mid but that's still okay.
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>>732282396
Can and is
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>>732278953
Loved the guy in 6. He gave so much EXP and he never forced you to fight him
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>>732268072
Yayoi fags eternal seethe
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>>732268396
No love for the best character in the series? Damn.
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>>732268396
I have no idea why goro is so far ahead of everyone else, and no akiyama is really cringe, but I'm really happy to see how immensely unpopular shitchiban is. 7 was fucking horrendous and my NOPEout point for the series. Seems like it only got even worse after that. The gaslighting on /v/ for a while about he's actually a great character, how his game is actually great and possibly the best Yakuza game ever was fucking insufferable.
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>>732283963
the fangirls universally agree he's the cutest so they all voted for him
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>>732283963
>I have no idea why goro is so far ahead of everyone else
Because he's a meme
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>>732280572
>Haruka below Patriarch Gondawara
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>732268396
>Tomizawa that high
>Literally Nanba but if he was younger

nuke this franchise already
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>>732285003
Haruka was raped in the cold winter of 2012 by RGG.
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>>732285143
He also didn't go full retard like Nanba did so he's got that going for him too
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>>732283963
Yakuza 7 is kino.
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>>732280572
>Aizawa and Shibusawa below Fake Fat Kiryu
lmao
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I really wish they'd just make each Yakuza game feature a new protag. It would solve so many problems with Yakuza stories.
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>>732286040
You're like 20 years too late for that anon
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>>732286040
They kind of did, yakuza 4, 5 and 7 had new protags.
I genuinely think the writing in 4 and 5 was really bad but 7 was okay.
Personally I think they need to make more side stories like the judgement series and what I hope stranger than heaven will be.
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>>732286040
That would unironically take too much effort from them
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>>732280663
Japan has always, without a doubt, had shit taste. This is shown in pretty much every single poll to ever come out of their country.
>They always vote for completely random characters that have nothing to do with the game itself but usually outside factors.
In Yakuza's context look at Eric and Baba as examples where they ranked in the top 10 just because of their actors.
https://ryu-ga-gotoku.com/cp_vote/
>They vote characters highly even if they're terrible across the board just because they like their archetype.
Senran Kagura's Yumi is the example here. She is truly a garbage character that nonstop takes attention away from other characters and entire schools who is only #1 because of her yamato nadeshiko archetype and literally nothing else. She caused Asuka, the face of the series, to become a footnote because of her popularity. This is on top of her school getting massive attention in the main story even though only Shiki is interesting as a character and they completely decimated New Hebijo as a school development-wise in the process.
>They vote in completely baffling ways that have no merit at all.
https://ranking.net/rankings/best-jojo-characters
Here's a quick example. Buccialatti is #5. Caesar is #7. Giorno is #8. Even Narrancia is #15.
It takes until #17 before you see Kira at all despite him being one of the best villains in the series, Gyro is #27 which is insanity, Johnny is somehow #43 below characters like Trish, Killer Queen, and Diavolo, and Valentine, one of the best final bosses in the entire series, is #90. Pucci is at #60 beating out Valentine by 30 spots. They are out of their mind at how awful their taste is.
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>>732286854
You forgot one

>They will ALWAYS vote for the MC, even if it's a self insert blank slate with literally nothing to them otherwise
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>>732267882
9 takes place in Ginza btw
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>>732270879
I see no contradiction.
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>>732269054
You can play it as it's own game.
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>>732271110
Gameplay is a massive improvement.
Kiryu side is the best part of the game and you can tell it's the only part they cared about.
Ichiban side is possibly the worst story they have ever told in the series.

>>732282396
8G's the definition of "It's okay".
It's not bad and has some great substories but the main story is mostly a boring pirate movie you already know the story of with Noah being the only real interesting character.
The ship combat is only novel immediately at the start of the game, as soon as you start interacting with it you realize how railroaded you are into one build and everything else is immensely weaker by comparison, and how ships that aren't the boss ship are a waste of your time and more dangerous to go after.
It pretty much just reused all of 8's side content including Aloha Links to pad out how much content it actually had despite being a side mainline game that's supposed to be smaller than the proper mainline games.
Combat is the easiest the series has ever seen. You not only have to avoid equipping a lot of rings but also never upgrade your attack at all even on Professional or you kill most enemies in like one hit. Mad Dog is also utter garbage compared to Sea Dog, it is insane how enormous the gap in their damage output is.
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>>732283820
He's at 16 despite being in one game and never having a boss fight how much fucking higher does he need to be
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>>732289307
Needs to be first desu
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>>732282396
Crack when. Voices, DO SOMETHING
I'm not paying for this MVP asset flip
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>>732288352
You can't. It spoils the finale of 8 within the first hour because the consequences of the ending are the setpiece for the entire game and you even sit down in a jeep with a character who explains all of the ending to you. They even spend time explaining a major aspect of the final boss in 8, and the epilogue continues off of 8's epilogue.
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>>732280572
>Sugiura and Higashi 6th and th

Just proves that Yagami would have been 1st (with only two games)
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Is it just me or did SEGA completely ran out of money trying to make Stranger of Paradise and every other Yakuza project is now on life support
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>>732268396
lmao itchybum is such a trash character
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>>732289423
Its on gamepass
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>>732290452
They're still pumping out a game each year
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>>732290452
Didn't paradise get leaked before it was actually announced? That might make it seem like its taking longer than it should
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>>732268396
>no nancy
LAD fans are gay as fuck.
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>>732290690
Yeah but the quality went the fuck down. K2 had a whole new rendition of Osaka and it didn't suck balls the way Okinawa in K3 does
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>>732287861
Thank you LQA/FQA tester.
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>>732282396
NTA but can I play that without having played Infinite Wealth? I played every other, I just really don't want to play another turn based game
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>>732291156
No. As I said >>732289606 it immediately spoils 8's ending, the events of the story follow off of 8's ending's consequences, it focuses one of the final bosses of 8 for some bits of the story, and the epilogue is a direct follow up to 8's epilogue.
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>>732291275
Oops, I completly overlooked that post. But thanks anon
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>>732290968
Infinite Wealth is the highest feeling budget they have ever had, they are spending way more now than they used to.
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>>732292659
Yeah, ever since 7 you can feel they're seriously starting to put some money into it. I would argue they're AA budgets now instead of this A-to-interim-AA deal they had going on.
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>>732292815
>A-to-interim-AA deal they had going on
Can you stop pushing this retarded narrative? In what way is Yakuza 2 or 3 or fuckin 5 below AA level? Or 0 for that matter? They're up there between AA and AAA. 5 is pretty much AAA for a PS3 game
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>>732293602
>5 is pretty much AAA for a PS3 game
Baffling post, it was made in like two years for starters.
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>>732293602
>5 is pretty much AAA for a PS3 game
You must be smoking DUDE WEED
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>>732293602
the mind of the average 5fag on display here.
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>>732267882
why didn't he go balls out on Haruka then?
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>>732287220
This always makes me seethe.
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>>732293602
>In what way is Yakuza 2 or 3 or fuckin 5 below AA level?
Oh I don't know
>Massive amounts of reused content to the point that most of the enemy movesets, boss movesets, and even Kiryu's moveset in 3 are repurposed from Kenzan.
Even 5 uses an enormous amount of movesets from Kenzan and 3.
>Visually not even remotely close to the actual AA or AAA releases at the time.
It screams that it's a lower budget Japanese game. The PS2 releases may have been in the AA range since they released at the end of its lifespan and looked close to some of the more expensive games at the time, but are you genuinely going to argue that 5 looks like GTAIV, RDR1, Call of Duty, Killzone 2 or 3, the Uncharted games, Mass Effect games, Bioshock games, the R&C Future games, etc? It is visually not even close to remotely as complex as they are.
>Or 0 for that matter?
It does not look any different than 5 graphically. It reuses an enormous amount of its content from Kenzan, 3, 5, and Ishin to the point that Sotenbori is the same layout as 5's just with an 80's coat of paint over it. It's also extremely unoptimized and plays at mid 20 FPS on the intended platform (The PS3).
>Every single game with the exception of Kenzan and 5 were made within a 1 year period of time which is absurd for anything that actually has a high budget.
Even Call of Duty games take a minimum of two years to make with different studios handling them and said studios have hundreds upon hundreds of employees. To our knowledge RGG Studios has always been a small operation. Yakuza has had two or even three games in the pipeline at any given time as one single studio. 7 and 8 are notable examples of higher budget games because they took years of development to release and their teams are actively bigger now and shuffling multiple projects all at once.

You do understand that to most people on the outside looking in these are low budget games, correct?
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Updated my journal
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>>732268396
I'm not surprised Majima's the most popular Yakuzie, but Akiyama not in the top 10 at all? What the fuck?
>>Daigo in the top 10
On come the fuck on!
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>>732297773
Daigo is cool
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>>732297773
The way it's framed in the series, Daigo is basically Kiryu's son and he's been there for a very long time.
Even discounting the women that like him, I'm not too surprised he's high up there.
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>>732292815
Infinite Wealth feels between AA-AAA to me. It's a legit big budget production. Shame everything about it was garbage besides the combat
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>>732298617
Which was always weird since theyre only like 8 years apart in age. Kiryu feels more like a friendly uncle to him
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I recently beat 6 and honestly Daigo went from
>Man this guy is retarded
to
>Well Kiryu WAS the one who forced this onto him
to
>Actually you know what I just feel bad for this guy the writers are straight up just forcibly kicking him over and over

I felt bad for him by the end.
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Do you guys think there will be a Kiryu-Wheelchair minigame in 9 where you race against other cancer patients to collect chemotherapy drugs?
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>>732293698
>>732293781
>>732293856
Have you guys been around during the PS3 era? Yak5 is like a 40 hour long open world game. Which is pretty rare for PS3, and every game of that scale is definitely considered AAA. I know it's nothing special now but back then it was pretty special. Anyone claiming it's below AA is a certified retard
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>>732297984
>>732298617
Daigo's such a high-maintenance it's not even funny anymore. He gets kidnapped in 0, 2, and 3, and Kiryu has to rescue him. He tries to do something right for the clan but fails spectacularly in 4 and 5, and Kiryu has to step in and bail him out.

Daigo's the Ashley of Yakuza.
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>>732267882
i don't remember this part of PST
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>>732280572
>Shinada 19th
Foids just don't get it...
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>>732300563
>Have you guys been around during the PS3 era?
Were you? Tales of games are also something you're describing and no one would consider anything until maybe Arise more than AA and even then the "AA" Tales of game would be maybe Vesperia and nothing else. The fact that so many of the assets are also reused means they can keep costs extremely low, and you're also discounting how quickly they turn these games out.
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>>732268396
>Higashi and Sugiura
What
Did fujos vote for them?
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I'm still mad.
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>>732269054
just buy it, RGG is worth supporting.
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>>732268818
>What do you mean a gacha RPG about strong heroic men saving beautiful women and being chivalrous towards them is predominantly catered towards their female audience? I THOUGHT I WAS THEIR AUDIENCE!
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>>732303001
Kyodai... owari da...
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>>732268396
they'll use this for game 9, you know.
>sworn brothers majima and saejima return to kamuro to investigate the unthinkable: somehow, nishkiyama returned. they will embark on an extraordinary adventure and along the way they'll cure kiryu's cancer, discover how nishiki survived, and re-unite with fellow heroes tomizawa, suguira, higashi, and daigo too is in this game. special guest star mine as the owner of the new bar atop the millenium tower called 'za pran skydive i survive'
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>>732303001
>saving beautiful women
*men
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>>732303294
Kino!
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It made me feel bad how shitty Daigo's character is treated in 8.
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>>732304060
Daigo spits nothing but truth and he gets insulted for it in 8.
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>>732268818
lol
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The combat in the Kiwami 3 demo is actually good I dont understand why everyone is shitting on it
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>>732267882
Rubber bullets will be retconned in Kiwami 4 and replaced with something about the Daidoji
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>>732304515
Do Japanese women actually play the games?
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>>732304345
Why were they all living in a remote hut together in 8? Shit made no sense
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>>732305906
People are just mad about Kagawa, people here are mad because their favorite franchise got popular.
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>>732267882

R U B B E R
B U L L E T S
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>>732306189
They're also upset about the ending retcon but I honestly don't give a shit because the writing was never good and I don't mind seeing the old characters come back since nobody they introduced in 7 or 8 is interesting
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>>732306062
People will defend rubber bullets in 4 when kiwami removes them.
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>>732268396

Its fucking over for Akiyama fans, holy shit.
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>>732305906
>Ryukyu style has some insanely weak moves and combos that don't flow well together at all and very awkwardly chain into each other.
>It also has some moves that just one-shot what is available in the demo and are clearly better than anything else.
>In general it doesn't feel good to use the Ryukyu style at all since in the 1v1 you have to go deep into any of the combos to deal any damage at all, and if you want to use the one good attack it has for mobbing (The paddle) you have to cement yourself in place.
>DoD now has some Yagami moves for no real reason.
>Charge attacks are crazy slow compared to LJ or K2.
Those are my complaints based on a couple hours of the demo. I think DoD is definitely an improvement overall over what K2 had but the combat just doesn't feel as good as LJ. It's more like 7G/8G.
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>>732268396
>Ichiban in 10
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>>732306334
To be quite honest the leak is exactly what I wanted because that character is the best villain in the series.
I've been thinking it for a while but RGG choose the stupidest characters to kill off sometimes, I genuinely think he could have helped the Tojo not be utter shit games later.
It's like how a certain person not being killed would have been way better for Ichiban going forwards, but they did and then they had to make up some stupid shit about his mother instead.
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>>732306409
LJ is a very high bar, 7G has some of the best combat in the series too.
I'm not complaining if it's that good, I think the big talking point will be on how short Mine gaiden is because they've over-promoted it a bit, I'm hearing Kaito length which is fine but people are going to have a fit about that.
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>>732306647
>7G has some of the best combat in the series too.
I don't know, I'm sort of of a mixed mind about it. It's fun, but it's quite unbalanced all over the place with Agent being prioritized and wanting you to fling yourself all over the place while DoD is alright but not really suited for a lot of the fights. When I say "It's like 7G/8G" I mean more in the sense that they want you moving around more and focusing on larger groups of enemies by the feel of it, and it feels "open" or "loose" I guess is the best way to put it? It's not like 6 to LJ for example, it's something else.
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>>732295089
I'm gone.
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>>732306349
Ain't that the truth
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>>732306409
I doubt they'll reach the peak of LJ combat again. But it feels better than Gaiden and Pirates to me at least. Their main focus is refining the turn based combat for the mainline games now, the brawler combat is secondary
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>>732306385
He was kind of a whiny bitch in 8 to be honest
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>>732306507
At least they learned their lesson and don't immediately kill off every new antagonist after one game anymore. Shishido and Nishitani will definitely show up again
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If Haruto isn't playable some time this decade, I declare this IP soulless
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>>732306647
Kaito Files was 4 chapters, Dark Ties is only 3 chapters. If it was longer than a few hours they would've sold it separately
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>>732306810
The combat in 6 is so underrated. I know it was missing a lot of moves because it was the first Dragon Engine game but damn did it feel weighty and heavy in a good way. Kiryu actually feels strong in it
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>>732307659
>The guy who basically made your life what it is ghosts you for nearly a decade.
>After he just told you he was going to kill a man and has clearly snapped in some way before he "died".
>The only guy who seems to know anything about what happened to him is pretending not to know anything outside of vague responses and is clearly lying to you.
>Spend an entire year and a bunch of money fact checking everything to prove Kiryu is alive.
>Finally track Kiryu down by following Date.
>He and Date are still lying straight to your face about what's going on even when you know he's got your back no matter what.
Akiyama was completely in the right for what he did in 8. Kiryu lets basically everyone else know he's alive including Komaki but treats Akiyama like he has to perpetually evade him even though Akiyama is the most likely to shut up and not say anything.
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>>732307390
If they somehow manage to make the next jrpg yakuza feel better than IW I will be impressed, IW already feels really good.
I expect more of the same.
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>>732307743
Kaito files may be 4 chapters but it felt like 2 chapters, there was very little to it.
I still liked it but it was very lean on content.
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>>732307662
Gaiden was where they got it, Shishido would have been killed off in many of the earlier games, now he can be a cool fight and have motivations that are developed beyond a single game.
A Shishido fight in the future is worth so much more than it already was, though I wish it was under Watase.
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>>732308321
It just needs better balancing of the moves instead of having clear winners, maybe have some sort of innate buffs you get by leveling up styles instead of a job's worth being determined by the character's clothes + weapon's passives (Sort of like Self-Taught in BP2), and better EXP balancing.

They already balanced it a hell of a lot better than 7, they're almost there. Essences are nerfed heavily so only Ichiban and Kiryu get anything that targets every enemy and for like 90% of the game Limit Breaks are well balanced until you get Essence of Friendship + Aquanaut.
They should go back to 7's equipment system and just make stuff incrementally better while passives unlocked by jobs are what you equip as that would fix the issue of characters like Nanba not being that great.
They already have diminishing returns even in 8, their issue is that they don't know if you'll touch side content or not. I think a way around this would be to have a general level everyone in the story is at, and then it checks your level at each step when you continue the story and if you've hit the diminishing returns threshold it makes the enemies upgrade to a higher tier. So like in chapter 4 if you just go through the story you'll be like 16 and get enemies in the 14-16 range, but if you do the side content you'll be around 21 or whatever it was and it would upgrade the enemies to 21 instead.

I do think Substitution Jutsu needs to go though, it makes women almost entirely worthless as characters as they just pass on their turns to the guys who hit way harder.
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>>732307886
Do the Komakis even intereact with anyone other than the protagonist?
I get your point and do think Akiyama was hard done by but Komaki is barely even narratively canon.
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>>732308765
Just remembered as soon as I posted, they also addressed spamming by making MP harder to obtain in 8 as well which I thought was great. Until you get the Wizard's Hat from the Hawaiian Haunt you can't really freely spam stuff and have to be more careful, and you can only spam Essences if you also have a War God Talisman (Of which you can only get 2 in NG and 1 in every NG+).
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>>732306149
They certainly buy them. Ace Attorney's continued existence as a brand is like 75-80% due to Japanese women too.
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>>732308806
>Do the Komakis even intereact with anyone other than the protagonist?
Majima in 0 and K1, Haruka in 5, and all the limit breaks in 5 require you to go meet him. I just use him as an example because he was part of the Memoirs of a Dragon content and even though Akiyama is a Life Link Komaki learned about him without much issue while Akiyama had to fight tooth and nail to do so.
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>>732267882
>localization
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The true final millennium tower grind in 7 is insane, did nobody playtest it?
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>>732308321
I wouldnt be surprised if they marry the 2 styles and try an action rpg at some point
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>>732309462
>The true final millennium tower grind in 7 is insane,
It's five hours max. It only takes roughly two and a half hours to take a job from 30 to 99 at the hobos. I got everything to 99, it's really not as bad as everyone complains it is. You only need two jobs, your main one nad one for some extra stats. That's it. Get everything else to 30 for the skills and passive stats and you're good to go.
> did nobody playtest it?
They did. You just didn't play a full playthrough of Legend like you were supposed to and went straight from the FMT to the TFMT which was not the intended way to do it.
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>>732267882
>>732267916
kek
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>>732267882
What the fuck were they thinking with this shit
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>>732310775
RGG is obsessed with always portraying current culture in Japan but the writers are old and it's coming across as very "how do u do fellow kids"
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>>732268396
Whoever created Goro for the first game must be wrapping his head wondering how the fuck he became this fucking popular.
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>>732309939
9 will be turn-based for Ichiban, brawler for Kiryu, and grid-based tactics for Majima Construction
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>>732310775
Just fuck my shit up.
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>>732268396
Women?
Not in my Yazuka Like a Dragon game.
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>>732311346
And yet his solo game flopped bigly
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>>732311514
It kinda had a stupid name, desu.
But saying it was going to sell as much as a main line game is like saying FFX-2 was going to sell the same or more as FFX.
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>>732275048
>but it's ok because he's an orphan too, so he knows what's it like to wish some other man raised your dead father's kid!
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>>732276548
THIS IS NOT GOTH REEEEEE
in all seriousness this more like rocker/metalhead. Not every woman in black is goth
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>>732311615
The title and cover art did everything they could to make it unappealing. I finally played it because I was bored and it's a decent game
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>>732268396
>6 and 7
Literally fucking who?
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>>732305906
>I dont understand why everyone is shitting on it
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Why isn't Ichiban popular in Japan? Is it because he looks half black?
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>>732312223
Kino
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>>732312234
>Is it because he looks half black?
Unironically yes
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So, what happened to that series or movie they were making? How was it received? It released already, right?
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>>732311907
>He hasn't played JE or LJ.
That one's on you man.
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>>732312841
I played like 6 hours of the first one and found it really underwhelming. Didn't like the characters or the detective shit.
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>>732312840
It was atrocious
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>>732312840
Here's your Kiryu bro
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>>732312840
The amazon one? Absolute trash, plus wokeslop that turned Yumi into a girlboss along with some OC hackergirl.
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>>732312840
The Netflix show? It was terrible like the Halo and Fallout shows. They didn't watch the original content and then just made stuff up on the fly.
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>>732313206
You basically just played the opening of the game, it gets really good later on.
I felt the opposite with LJ though, I was so over it by the end I didn't even finish the school stories, there's just too much shit.
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>>732313206
The gameplay in judgment 1 is actually terrible. Its a lot better in the sequel but the story is much worse. Also the characters in judgment just arent nearly as fun or interesting as they are in Yakuza. I even like Yagami's actor but he's a snore in those games
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>>732313206
JE doesn't really start until chapter 5's ending so you kinda gotta push through it.
LJ only starts once you reach the apartment which is like chapter 8, everything prior to that is setup.

Both games have these long periods of setup before they actually start and then everything falls into place so you need to push through it.
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>>732313394
I think Yagami is a pretty terrible main character, like his games but he kept me from loving them.
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Finished pirate yesterday.
Didn't really like it that much desu. Boat combat felt pretty bad and the story was a big nothing overall, with it also feeling bloated despite being short.
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>>732306409 you won’t get combat that feel as good as LJ because the combat director hasn’t worked in anything since that game, probably working in stranger than heaven.
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>>732313541
It's 20 hours of preamble just for the post-credits scene
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>>732313551
Who's the combat director?
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>>732267882
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>>732267882
Man, saejima was literally the best yakuza protagonist till the rubber bullets reveal so much wasted potentially.
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>>732313820
He thought it was real at least
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>>732268396
>Itchybum could barely get 10th place
Lmao just bench him already, rgb
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>>732313690
Jun orihara is the main battle designer since yakuza 2 and after LJ only had support roles in gaiden and iw didn’t even worked in pirates.
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>>732268832
It didn't though.
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>>732268396
This is why the phrase "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" exists.
Ichiban is not unpopular.
Eric is not popular.
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>>732270963
Yakuza 6 was the worst game in the series it wouldn't magically be better if 5 didn't exist.
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>>732271110
>they had no real plan for this and they were just making shit up as they went,
I felt this when playing the first itchybum game.
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>>732282396
It's unironically great its only hated in retrospect because rgb hired a sexpest for the kiwami 3 remake.
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>>732314146
>Yakuza 6 was the worst game in the series
Damn what a shit take
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>>732314072
Ichiban is actually unpopular
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>>732314507
He's literally right tho?
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>>732311346
Receive you was his boss theme. He was always intended to be a big deal.
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>>732314571
No he isn't.
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>>732314208
7 actually has a coherent thought out story regarding Ichiban even if other stuff like Nanba's brother and mirror face were retarded. It's Infinite Wealth that clearly had no idea what to do with him
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>>732314571
Being in the top ten of a 100 character poll isn't so bad, he even beats out some previous protagonists.
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>>732314446
Everyone here shit on it from the moment it was announced
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the whole rubber bullets was such a retarded fucking story beat that almost ruined his entire character.
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>>732314795
Everyone here is a mad hipster angry about yakuza 0 making the series popular.
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>>732314590
What's wrong with it?
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>>732314841
It also has low metacritic user and steam scores. It seems unpopular
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>>732295089
based
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>>732314793
He's one spot above Zhao
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>>732314843
>Shit plot
>Worse combat
>Garbage health system
>First dragon engine so there's a ton of jank no other game using it has and they didn't make a spinoff game to test it first like Kenzan and Ishin
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>>732314860
I'm just saying why people are mad about it here, when it comes to wider reception and sales it had terrible marketing.
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>>732310775
Legitimately the worse plot point in the entire series even worse then rubber bullets.
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>>732314936
Why did he do it bros...
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>>732268396
this is why they're going to ditch ichiban. he's too woke for the japanese.
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>>732313541
Honolulu is just a soulless tourist trap. Setting Infinite Wealth there was a total mistake. All the worst parts of Ichiban’s story is Hawaii focused. Yamai is kino because he’s not really related to all the cult bullshit. Pirate Yakuza felt like a second attempt to salvage anything from this setting and it still fucked up. Hawaii is just cursed
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>>732314938
Having a crime journalist as a part of the plot isn't that bad, what is bad is the twist and the characters it involves.
Holy fucking shit what were they thinking, it actively makes one of the main characters unlikable.
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>>732315007
Yamai is proof that the yakuza families should re-form and they should stop this gay woke honest living bullshit.
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>>732314208
7 is bloated, but at least you can tell how the events of the game affected Ichiban.
He doesn't get any of that in 8. He's literally the same character at the beginning and at the end. They really had no idea what to do with him.
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Who're the writers of the modern games versus the Nagoshi era? Was there some internal shift of everything going to shit, or are we getting the same people delivering worse garbage than ever?
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>>732316470
It's really notable when Kiryu's side is one his best stories in the series and Ichiban's is...well nothing
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>>732314695
The opposite, he was a filler boss (confirmed in interviews) because they had to have a boss fight at the end of each chapter. "His" boss theme is just early version of the main opening theme, since they didn't want to bother making a unique battle theme for him.
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>>732267882
PEE IS STORED IN THE BALLS
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>>732267882
Atleast hes didnt say "BALLS IN, KIDO!"
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>>732268396
Ichiban? More like juuban
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>>732318815
More like Ichican't
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0 was trash actually
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>>732319404
bait used to be believable
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>>732319506
Good story stuck in the worst gameplay of the series
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>>732319634
good bait
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>>732280572
>Zhao
How the fuck is a Chinese sleazeball ranked that high? I thought they hated chinks in Nippon
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>>732320502
I assume he has a famous actor in china
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>>732319693
Maybe you didnt play it
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>>732283963
FujoSTACIES
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>>732321307
I played it enough to know that switching fighting styles mid-combo was the jankiest system they ever came up with. Story was peak soap opera kino but holy hell, the gameplay felt like pushing a shopping cart full of concrete uphill.
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>>732268396
I feel like Ichiban is more liked in the west than he is in Japland
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>>732286854
This, they should have focused on Yomi instead



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