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Good game, but overall I had a better time with IV / IV:A
Dagda was the better groomer demon character. Aogami is boring.
>>732275493well IV didn't have Yoko so that makes it automatically superior
>>732275642Dagfa is only better because everyone else is so unlikeable
>early game demons have unique beneficial abilities that actually help you a fair amount with surprisingly powerful uniques and helpful immunities>90% of endgame demons have copy pasted shit abilities that simply don't matter with absolute ass uniquesWhats up with that? There's like a handful of endgame demons that actually feel endgame but the rest you can easily throw away. Even metatron was a huge fumble
>>732275925The game had a crazy problematic developement cycle, thats why most of the cast gets sidelined hard almost instantly. I also noticed that you gain a weird huge influx of demons around lvl 40-60 but because of how easy the bosses during that period become and how specific their weaknesses are you barely get a decent reason to use most of them, especially with how stingy Macca gets.They tried to fix this a bit with Vengence but they propably didn't want to touch the game too much as well. Maybe SMT6 will be better balanced.
>>732276092>SMT6 announced>Switch from UE4 to UE5 for no good reason>Assets and pipeline have to be remade again>Game is rushed and unfinished, again>Looks worse and runs like shit tooJust you watch
>>732277151Don't do this to me
>>732275925Endgame demons have a shit ton of incredible abilities, are you smoking?
UE5 is fine. There's been dozens of games that have proved it works on a stylistic and performance level. The retarded drivel that leaks out of brown mouths here saying it runs like shit should be ignored. The only thing I want from Atlus is for them to stop trying to sell me the same game twice. At leaat give a discount on the "complete" editions if you own the original.
>>732275493Well I didn't. I can barely stomach to playthroughs of IV/IVA while I actually wanted to do all the endings for VV.
>>7322776134 and 4A are missing a lot of qol and are tedious to go through multiple times, but they both have really strong stories. They're mostly held back by the ds hardware, if they were mainline console games they would have been the peak of the franchise
>>732277487The problem isn't UE5 itself, the problem is that it's the Photoshop of game engines and greedy companies love it because you can just outsource work to a bunch of third world countries with low wages
>>732275493>Good gameV is fucking dogshit
>>732275642Dagda wasn't a groomer, he was a true father figure.And Aogami can't be a groomer when the MC is 18 and he's more retarded than he is.
>>732277151>SMT6 announcedYeah see you in 10 years.
>>732275493I think I kinda like Apocalypse's combat better but the exploration is so fun in V I think I'll still rate it higher.
>>732278061Maybe I'm naive, but I can't see a world where Atlus kills their franchises by doing that. They're definitely greedy as shown by double or triple releases of games + egregious DLC on release, but the games are consistently good quality, and made with as much love and care as their shitty crunch schedules allow. I've played Atlus games I didn't like, but I can't really say I've played a "bad" atlus game.
the series really fell off with this one, the setting fucking sucked. I kept waiting for the scenery to change and was pissed when it just went from yellow desert to red desert to blue desert
>>732279417Eternal reminder.
>>732279417>>732279570Yea I don't get this complaint. The whole world is a desert, but has vastly different zones. I refuse to believe anyone actually has such shallow thinking to think the first zone and second zone are even similar outside of sand being on the ground. Then Taito, Chiyoda and Shinjuku are all one of a kind as well. Followed by a classic smt style dungeon even if it was mediocre and impossible to actually get lost in.
>>732280141I strongly recommend playing the game with the minimap and the UI off. Actually I'd go so far as to say it was designed to be played like that and they added UI elements because of playtesters cried, you can see the same thing happening with them removing the fog of war caused by abcesses in Vengeance. I also like to lower the fov so it's closer to you and harder to see like a first person game, but that one is probably more controversial since the game has really pretty aesthetics. But at the very least turn off the mini map.
what does the great will want
>>732282031The Great Will is Atlus. They want Axiom (the player) to play their game.
>>732282304Atlus is the Ain Soph; fundamental truth? I see...
>>732282031Obedience.
>>732283508Great Will made both YHVH and Lucifer as his avatars, and supports the cycle of law and chaos. The Great Will is against stagnation but also doesn't want anyone to leave the cycle.
>>732283826Correct, so obedience. Be part of the collective, don't leave. And if you do leave, expect punishment.
So I’m playing through 4 right now, do the demons not have offensive proficiencies at all and anyone can be technically assigned anything?
>>732277151this will happen 100% and you know it
>>732284086Yes they have assigned stat spreads so a Physical demon will have crappy mag and a Magic demon will have low HP. All demons of their class are identical except for what moves they learn naturally and what their base resistances are.
>>732277151You don't know how any of this shit works. Going from UE4 -> UE5 would be brainless for an experienced developer like Atlus. UE5 was already pretty much UE4.5 for the longest time, and most of the big additions were just realism/open world shit. Every other change is just making internal systems more modular.
>>7322779074's story fumbles the bag after The White and has the usual SMT problem of the alignment reps being a bit 2 Dimensional, it's not something I'd call strong.
>>732284086Yeah 4 is ass, designed by people who had no idea what balancing is. Every demon is interchangeable and magic mirrors will carry you for 90% of the bossfights because the devs were too retarded to add Almighty attacks to bosses. The only people who say IV is good are 3DS babies who had it as their first SMT.Garbo art, garbo writing, DOGSHIT combat. dogshit exploration; music is good but 99% of IV's OST is included in Apocalypse so IV loses that one positive it had retroactively. Only upside of the game is that it's short.
>>732285475Going from UE4 to UE5 might be easier than most engine switches but its absolutely not brainless, SquareEnix even said the reason they're sticking with UE4 for FF7R is because it would be a ton of work to switch at this point
>>732285852IV fags have nostalgia goggles on. At least IVA fags know how bad the story is of that game and just focus on the gameplay.
The MC of V is the reason why I can't like it
>>732275335YOROKOBE SHOUNEN
>>732287510Shut up, fake priest
