Do you think they'll release it on PC eventually? Not gonna buy a switch 2 regardless but still
>>732279857LolLmao evenBuy a Switch 2, fromdrone.
>>732279857>Bloodborne but PG13Nah I'm fine
>>732279857I thought this game came out already and it was wokeslop that flopped
looks cool. The characters even have command seals like in Fate series. But I heard it's PvPvE. What's the point if you have to buy a switch, buy the game then buy a subscription to play the game online? You're too dependent on too many things. Trash idea. Hope it flops
>forced pvp>nintendo netcode>fromsoft netcode>everyone is on wifi because handheldits dead in the water
I am so, so fucking pissed that they're making it Switch exclusive. I'm not a huge fan of PvPvE, but I'm at least willing to give it a chance if they put it on PC. Not paying $80 plus a subscription fee for it
The fuck were they thinking making this garbage for half a decade releasing at the worst time to be in a Nintendodler system.
I genuinely dread to think how bad the netcode is going to be.
>>732285332even if they manage to make it work somehow I don't feel like PvP is interesting in souls games. Hell I played Nightreign in coop and it wasn't what I'd call a good experience, I feel like it was rather miserable. Overall souls games are solo experiences. You take your time, you explore at your own pace, you make the build you want regardless of meta or any dumb stuff like that.
>>732279857probably not. its gonna be something like bloodborne where nintendo will own the IP and use it to sell the switch 2 as a duskblood exclusive. it even looks exactly like bloodborne just even more generic somehow with a flamboyant tumblr vampire art style rather than dark gothic victorian shit.
>>732279857I'm sure that some american nerd already working on the switch 2 emulator, so later I can play duskbloods for free on my pc in Ukraine
>>732285529Souls pvp is great as a SIDE activity blending with pve. When it becomes a focus, it turns into the most miserable and boring sweatfest possible because their actual pvp mechanics are garbage. Literally just punishing each other's whiffs for up to an hour per match.
>>732279857I hope not. PC Cucks are now worse than Snoys and deserve the worst. Karma is coming.
I dont think the PvP elements in this game are going to be what people are expecting. I really doubt it's traditional Souls duels. I think it's going to be system related. Like three teams on their own slices of the map racing to the end, and as you beat bosses or find treasure cheats, you can find curses or obstacles to throw at the enemy teams. PvP more like Tetris 99 or Mario 99 was.
>>732279857Until fromsoft says so, I refuse to believe they'd be dumb enough to make the same mistake again like they did with bloodborne/sony
OH MY GOD IS THAT THE NEWEST MPSLOP?
>System for toddlers and manchildren who can't face reality>Bro let's get them to do PvP on wifi with our horrible netcodeWhat were they thinking?
do not make this thread
>>732279857Nintendo funded it, so fat fucking chance.Personally im just waiting for From to announce their next SP game, this MP nonsense has gone for long enough.
>>732279857Nightreign was my runner up for GOTY last year. Duskbloods will hopefully be just as good or even better.
>>732286304yeah I guess you're right. Really hope it flops.
>>732279857This game will bomb compared to Nightregin becuase of Switch exclusivity and terrible net code and people will blame it on PvP PvE casuals will become even more insufferable when the next mainline game comes around that has invasions again.
The Duskbloods it's a timed exclusive, published by FromsoftwareProject FMC is the Duskbloods (fantasy multiplayer competitive), and was leaked for a multiplatform release
>releasing a multiplayer only game on a new system with a limited install base that requires you to pay for online in the middle of a recession where hardware prices are likely to balloon thanks to AI companies buying up all the SSDs and RAM>it's also a game targeting adults when most switch users are playing for mario kart and zeldaThis is going to be FromSoft's first bomb in a long time desu. They bet on all the wrong things at the wrong time.
>>732286386I love seeing Miyazaki dab on you fucking losers. Glad he's not capitulating to you PCpoors.
>>732286571>system with a limited install baselol
>>732286514I don't want to play this piece of shit. I already have Nightreign which is also garbage.
>>732286609You're obsessed with it enough to come into thread for it.
>>732285529They've had years to figure out really basic shit like drop in coop, friends lists, filters, matchmaking, and they haven't done any of it. Even Nioh 2 just let you seamlessly slide from mission to mission with people from your friends list with little in the way, meanwhile From still uses summoning pools with shitty implementation. They are solo experiences.
>>732286601I mean it's true. Switch 2 has sold about ~17 million versus PS5's ~85 million. And I'd be that the PS5's userbase has a bigger appetite for a game like Duskbloods versus the Nintendo audience.And like I said, due to economic factors it's unlikely most FromSoft fans are going to buy a Switch 2 for one game.
>will have overwhelming praise >will have a fun time playing with me and the bros who aren't annoying platform warriors >seeing Snoys and Pc*cks shitting their diapers will be an extra added layer to the experience Fuck I can't wait.
>>732286789That's almost as much as Steam's user base, coper
>>732286789There's barely anything on Switch 2 that isn't multiplat, so the game might get a boost from that actually. A lot of those 17,000,000 people only have a Switch 2. There are some real hardcore tendies.
>>732286869...?
>>732286965...!
>>732286789This game was planned more than 7 years ago.
>>732287019nani?
>>732286667This is a woman or brown argument KWAB
Luckily for me I'm not poor like most of PC gamers and will be able to play this.
>>732279857Nightreign kinda proved that a PvP multiplayer centric Fromsoft game would suck ass, it would be filled with even more cheaters or people with shit net.
>>732279857The amount of seething alone from steamies and sony fanboys cucked from bloodborne 2 will fuel me for the rest of the decade.
>>732287408Nightreign was a cheap asset flip of Elden Ring. It's still doing very well for itself despite that. This is a game built from the ground up with multiplayer in mind. It's had a longer development cycle then even Elden Ring, because they're implementing new staples that will be in all their games going forward.
>>732279857>>732281485>>732285724>>732285810>>732286067>>732286304>>732286386>>732286432>>732286824>>732287537The Duskbloods IP technically owned by FromSoft, Nintendo is just publishing it.Its possible at a later time, the game can be ported but only on PC. Its kinda like what happened with Daemon X Machina, published by Nintendo but ended up being ported to PC only.
>>732279857>8 player PvEvP this means PvP with nothing but ratting by the worst faggots possible, and you lose the match the moment you engage the E at allYou don't want it, and I highly doubt it ever escapes the bing ecosystem until some crude form of emulation in a few years that probably won't have working online for even longer. >>732285332>Nintendo+ silky smooth 5tick>&>Fromsoft being unable to create a console release that goes over 15FPSIt's going to make PS3 Blighttown look like a fucking joke.
>>732286432With the way the handled invasions in ER I'm fully convinced they'll remove them next game
>>732281485only homosexuals or autists own nintendo products
>>732287846Have fun waiting 2-3 years (if it even comes), meanwhile we'll have already enjoyed the peak enjoyment time for the game.
>>732279857Depends how much money Nintendo gave them for exclusivity. Could be timed, but who knows. It's just going to be multiplayer only nightreign with a bloodborne flavor. It's basically just a filler game in between whatever real game From is making next.
>multiplayer only>switch 2 netcode>fromsoft netcode in generalkek this is going to be disaster
>>732283936Pretty much this. Doomed to fail, but could have been cool on PC.
>>732288139You apparently haven't bothered to look anything up about the game
>>732288079Why brag about something like that? You're basically the same as the asses that boast about playing Elden Ring 4 fucking years ago while Switchfags still hasnt been able to play it.
>>732288204NTA but Nightreign was clearly an asset swap test for how Duskbloods will run.
>>732288204If you don't think it's just going to be nightreign bloodborne edition, I've got a bridge to sell you
>>732287846>Nintendo is just publishing it.No, Fromsoftware is publishing the gameWhich is why it is a timed exclusive
Platform warrioring is so fucking cringe. Devs can make a game for whoever they want to. Just because you have PC really doesn't mean shit.
>>732288361It won't share anything in common with that game other than it being Fromsoft.
>>732288568lol
>>732287609Nothing cheap about Nightreign, it introduced 10 characters, multiple movesets andmovement variations, multiple new bosses and cool new maps>This is a game built from the ground up with multiplayer in mind.So is Nightreign
I remember when Nightreign and Duskbloods were announced, people were kind of shocked that a studio as prestigious as FROM would stoop to online PVE games. I think FROM sullied their name. It already distinctly feels like they diluted their brand. if Duskbloods isn't a 10/10 FROM's name is going to be tarnished, no pun intended.
>>732288473Sorry, it seems like you're right. So its possible it will come to other consoles too.
>>732287846>The Duskbloods IP technically owned by FromSoft, Nintendo is just publishing it.>Its possible at a later time, the game can be ported but only on PC.Oh kinda like bloodborne..Hahaha
>>732288568You are setting yourself up for some serious disappointment.
>>732288170The switch 2's net code is objectively considering vastly superior to what they had before. Thanks to native ethernet support and NPLN.
>>732288568It seems like it will be Nightreign, except you aren't a team. Care to explain why that's completely wrong?
>>732287609Holy delusion
>>732288668But Sony does own the Bloodborne IP, Sony even developed it alongside FromSoft using Japan Studio. Its not the same at all.
>>732288620This game was being made before Nightreign was a thing.
>>732287846the same bullshit can be said about bloodbornefromslop ip, snoy publishedwhere is bloodborne pc? never happened and no emushit does not fucking countnot only that but when was the first time nintendo ever launched a game that wasnt on their pile of shit hardware? lol
>>732288139>>732288204>>732288295>>732288361>>732288568>>732288613>>732288694>>732288762Nightreign is completely PvE, you never fight other players at all in that game.Duskbloods is focused on PvP with some PvE elements.
>>732288807And then they took some assets from Elden Ring and made a mod that tested how Duskbloods would work. Then they sold it for $40 to get people to test it for them.
>>732288945>fromslop ip,Wrong>snoy publishedThe Duskbloods is published by FromsoftwareYou are beta testing like Mh rise
It's apparently not published by Nintendo so maybe it'll be timed exclusive. I really would prefer to play it on PC but whatever, I loved Nightreign so I'm hyped for it.
>>732288945>fromslop ip, snoy publishedSony owns the IP, FromSoft doesn't so technically if Sony wanted to make Bloodborne 2 without having FromSoft develop it, they are well within their right to do that as the owners.
I liked DaS so much back in the day I bought a ps3 just to play DeS. Even if Duskbloods ends up being BB2 I won't be buying a switch 2 just to play it. The steampunk jetpack thing awkwardly taking off made it look like a copycat game by another company.
>>732279857I still find it funny that this game is so blatantly Bloodborne 2 and it proves that From Software got pissed off at Sony not greenlightning a new Bloodborne game, that they then migrated to Nintendo so they could produce the most "in your face TOTALLY NOT BLOODBORNE 2" game out there just so they could continue their passion projectSony is so fucking retarded it's hard to believe, they managed to lose their most beloved IP like that
>>732285073Genuinely going to be the worst Fromsoft game ever made
>>732289017Duskbloods and Nightreign play nothing alike.It's also very likely that Nightreign will end up the superior game with better combat, bosses and gameplay in general, much like Bloodborne was inferior Ds3
>>732289152>I still find it funny that this game is so blatantly Bloodborne 2Yeah and Nightreign is Elden Ring 2.
>>732279857>THE DuskbloodsI thought it was just Duskblood, The duskbloods sounds like a movie about edgy bikers which is every biker gang ever
>>732279857It's quite easy to see this game was made with NSW1 hardware in mind. It's a shame because it's obviously inspired by bloodborne but that kind of artstyle suffers from not having so many intricate structures and models.Let's hope the game is still good but the whole PvP thing does make it sound lame.
>>732289140I let my friend borrow my PS3 to play Demon Souls and I played it at his house with him, then he let me borrow the game after he beat it. Dark Souls was the most hyped I have been for a game. I don't play rollslop anymore, I don't really know why, it just got old. But I actually really like the ideas they are using in Nightreighn and Duskbloods, because it isn't just the same formula as the other games. But definitely not buiying a Switch 2, and I didn't buy Nightreign. idk, just fatigue, maybe. Been playing FROM games for over a decade.
>>732289183DS3 was so good, I don't get the people who didn't like it. I mean, rollslop was getting stale by then, but then those same people praised Elden Ring as the best game ever made. And in retrospect the open world of Elden Ring was ass.
>>732289264WE ARE THE DUSKBLOODS
>>732289309>over a decade.Correction: almost 20 years.
I have no idea if it will be good, we know fuck all. The aesthetic looks cool, bloodborney and I'm interested in how from tackles the PvPvE game loop quite a few popular games are taking on but outside of a trailer and some interviews there's no reason to feel any way about it unless you dislike the direction they are taking the game. As for PC, I dunno, maybe? I guess BB and DeS never made the move but who's to say it's the same type of deal.
>>732286571If you purchased the console you aren't worrying about money. If you are and bought the console, you have bigger issues than paying for an online sub.
dont really care, i played enough souls games the last decade im so done with them, really hope fromsoft reinvent themselves after this beause they have the best art direction of any company
>>732289407the linear path of ds3 was way more ass then er's open world>i want to use x weapon>the only way to get is beat the entire game and half the dlcit's the bloodborne problem but way worse>hmm, what i boss should i fight next?>oh, the only one that progresses the game, i guess
>>732289729The only late game areas you can't access early are Ringed City and IrithyllThe game isn't any more linear than others
>>732289237Nightreign feels much more like a spin off to Elden Ring tho, Duskbloods is much more blatant in that regard, it's not even a mystery, because Bloodborne devs already commented on an interview that they'd love to produce Bloodborne 2, but Sony wasn't giving them the greenlight, it's pretty obvious that the Bloodborne dev team was starving like a wild beast after a year with no food to develop a sequel to their passion project, Nintendo was smart enough to capitalize on that, and now Sony has nothing
I'm going to buy a Switch 2 and Duskbloods, and if there's a limited edition Duskbloods Switch 2 I'll probably buy that one. I won't buy any other Switch 2 game unless it's Smash.
>multiplayer game made by studio famous for never making a single balanced multiplayer gameCant wait!
>>732289835it absolutely is, what are you talking about. thee's no areas that loop back to other areas, no shortcuts that open to places you've already been, no alternative ways to get to the same placejust because a few paths branch to dead ends does not mean it isn't fiercely linear
>>732288361>>732288613>>732288694>>732288762>>732289298>The Duskbloods represents a major shift for FromSoftware. While their previous games treated multiplayer as a side feature (summoning/invasions), this title is built entirely around a PvPvE (Player vs. Player vs. Environment) core. >1. The Core Loop: The Hunt for "First Blood". Unlike a traditional Battle Royale where the goal is simply to survive, The Duskbloods is objective-based.>Match Size: Up to 8 players drop into a large, gothic map (cathedrals, train stations, etc.). >The Goal: The primary objective is to claim the "First Blood"—a powerful magical resource. >Victory Points: You don't necessarily have to be the last survivor to win. Matches are decided by "Victory Points," which you earn by defeating NPC bosses, killing rival players, or completing specific "Fate" objectives. >2. The "Fate" Role System. This is the most unique mechanic. Before a match, you don't just choose a loadout; you customize your character’s "Blood History" in the hub. This determines your secret role for the upcoming match.>Destined Rival: You are tasked with hunting down one specific player in the lobby. Killing them grants massive points.>Destined Companion: You are secretly paired with another player. You must find them and survive together to unlock shared buffs or rewards. >Some players may have purely PvE objectives (e.g., "Slay the roaming boss") and can technically ignore other players if left alone.>3. Combat Mechanics (PvPvE). The gameplay uses a modified version of the Bloodborne / Elden Ring engine, but faster and more vertical.>Vampiric Mobility: As a "Bloodsworn," you aren't just a human. Characters can sprint faster, jump higher, and some can even use limited flight (steampunk jetpacks were shown in the trailer). >Feeding: You can bite NPC enemies (or wounded players) to regain health and charge your "Blood Arts" (ultimate abilities).
>>732287846based. I'll play it day one on Switch 2 and then double dip on PC. Unless its trash like Nightreign.
>>732290137>Dynamic Events: The map is not static. A system called "Nightfall Events" can trigger mid-match—for example, a giant stone face might appear in the sky, spawning elite enemies or changing the map layout, forcing players to move or team up temporarily. >4. Since this is a platform exclusive, it leans heavily into the Switch 2's specific features:GameChat Integration: Unlike Dark Souls (which had no native voice chat), this game encourages coordination. If you find your "Destined Companion," you can open a private voice channel instantly via the Switch 2's native GameChat.>Lobby Stability: It utilizes the new NPLN server architecture, which is critical for syncing 8 players + complex AI enemies without the "gliding" lag seen in older FromSoft titles.
>>732289835insane copeds3 is a good game. No need to lie about its linearity
I really hope it comes to PC, and I think it's likely to. FromSoft owns the IP, while Nintendo is just publishing it. FromSoft / Kadokawa aren't so business-illiterate that they're going to permanently trap a PvPvE multiplayer game on a casual-oriented system that has only ever had ONE FromSoft game on it. All the Souls content creators who help keep the games relevant past their singleplayer expiration date play on PlayStation and PC, too.
>>732290031I think they got enough experience on that front with Nightreign and they'll be applying it to Duskbloods, I feel confident that they'll deliver with this one
>>732287408Nightreign wasn't directed by Miyazaki.
>>732290305They're not even publishing it. FromSoft themselves are.see>>732288663
>>732290305Will it come to the other consoles alongside PC as well, or would it be impossible to do that?
>>732290137A focus on pvp and multiplayer just means it's going to be dead in the water with its exclusivity on a system for people who couldn't care less. If there's no solo content, it's doomed.
>>732290078>it absolutely isNo it isn't.In fact, there's an 80% of weapons you can rush to before even killing the Abysswatchers, so your claim that the game is linear and you are forced to run through the game is completely false.Miracle casters and Sorcerers frequently kill Dancer early to get their stuff too
>le ds3 combat multiplayer open world bossrush gameit's like fromsoft has no idea what makes their games good and accidentally chooses their biggest weaknesses to focus on
I don't want it. Call me when they release another interesting game again. It's been 2 years already..
>>732290423I'm probably high on copium but I like to think that fronsoft is using these games to make the next SoulsRing betterArchery is already 10x better now thanks to nightreign in future titles
>>732290571hey we said that about sekiro and then nothing from sekrio was reusued after
>>732290571Archery in Nightreign is identical as it was in Elden Ring. The only reason you think it's better is that Ironeye movies like he's a Dragon's Dogma shitter so it's just easier to use the bow
>>732285073this is exactly how it will play out and anyone thinking otherwise is stupid as fuck
>>732290641Thank fucking God
Most analysis think it won't be till 2028 before you see a PC port. The game relies heavily on the Switch 2's specific feature set, particularly the GameChat integration and the NPLN servers for its 8-player lobbies. FromSoftware would need to rebuild the social architecture (voice chat, "Destined Companion" pairing) to work on Steam or PlayStation Network, which don't handle those specific features the same way. It's not a simple "copy-paste" port.
>>732289438Lel
>>732290316This. FromSoft has a consistent development strategy: introduce a concept in each new game, emphasize it in that game, and then iterate on it in future games without focusing on it as much.>Dark Souls is Demon's Souls Redux with an interconnected world>AotA focused on more robust boss designs>DS2 is such a clusterfuck that it's impossible to say what the initial intention was with its development, all we know is that Shibuya's amibitions failed>Bloodborne focused on more unique, complex weapons and fast-paced combat>DS3 is the odd one out, because it's a fusion of Dark Souls and Bloodborne with no identity of its own>Sekiro focused on a more structured, complex system for evasion, as well as making stance breaks a universal system>Elden Ring obviously focused on a true open world>Nightreign focus on pushing the limits of the current combat and movement systemsThey're like the anti-Game Freak. Instead of coming up with new features for each game and then tossing them in the garbage in the next, they try to build advancements on top of existing advancements.>>732290391I see.
>>732290819>rollsloppers calling parrysloppers outlmao, the peak of gameplay to them is mashing B and having a different animation to avoid damage play out
>>732290423>>732290571I'm pretty sure they're just pumping out some B tier releases while they work on Elden Ring 2 so that they don't have a big release gap again like they did from Sekiro -> Elden Ring.We should see their next real game in 2027 I'd imagine.
>>732290974>>DS3 is the odd one out, because it's a fusion of Dark Souls and Bloodborne with no identity of its own Filtered retard
>>732290641>nothing from sekrio was reusued afterThe stance break system in Elden Ring is just Sekiro's posture break system transplanted into a more traditional FromSoft ARPG
>>732290819pleb
>>732291031filtered by what? it's not fast enough to be bloodborne but too fast to be dark souls, with all the recycled ideas of the two crammed into a game the studio didn't even want to make
>>732291064>The stance break system in Elden Ring is just Sekiro's posture break system transplanted into a more traditional FromSoft ARPGNo it's not. It's a Dark Souls 3 system stance damage system that replaced the garbage limb break
>>732290998All the devs who are making that "next big game" for them are making The Duskbloods.
>>732291031I didn't even say whether the game is good or bad. It started as a game that heavily referenced Demon's Souls, and by the end it didn't really resemble anything. If anything, that's DS3's identity: It's just everything that came before, mashed together into a single game.
>>732291064no it isn't, that shit existed in ds3, ds2, and ds1 with shield breaks, and ds3 and bloodborne with staggers and viscerals
>>732291109>it's not fast enough to be bloodborne but too fast to be dark soulsIt's actually good and well unlike either two
If they're smart they will especially with piss poor Switch 2 sales documented. Nintendo and From need to look at it this way>You can either port it to PC ASAP if not day 1 and get all the sales over the long tail depending on how good it is overall or>You can give the emulation community more reason to get a Switch 2 emulator developed, faster, miss a lot of potential sales,. and otherwise waste time. Nintendo needs to stop focusing on exclusive hardware in the first place as its a wasteful proposition but they can at least 'do both' if they're smart enough to release it multiple places.
>>732290702You shoot faster, can move properly while using it and it's viable in combat now like an actual weaponIt can only go up from here so long as future game enemies don't have elden ring tier projectile sensing abilities
>>732291031He is 100% right. That doesn't mean DS3 is a bad game
>>732291191>it's actually good and well
>>732291191alright man, ok. sorry i hurt your babyelden ring did every single thing ds3 tried to do but significantly better, btw
>>732279857Seeing as it's on a Nintendo console it's unlikely.
>>732285774>Literally just punishing each other's whiffs for up to an hour per match.If this game is PvEvP this won’t happen because twiddling your thumbs just out of reach will be wasting time
>>732291191Retarded cunt
>>732291165>It's just everything that came before, mashed together into a single game.This is LITERALLY what DS3 is
>>732291143Despite what people pretend, FromSoft doesn't have dedicated teams. Most studios don't. They have rolling dev cycles where people will join and leave teams based on the current needs of the project. Early on you need a lot of designers and programmers but they'll inevitably jump to the next project once the gameplay systems are complete and it becomes about finishing content/art.
>>732291165>Any game heavily reuses the same circular tropes in Fromsoftware fashion>But somehow Dark Souls 3 has "no identity"If anything Elden Ring is the most similar in terms of story beat, tropes and themes to Dark Souls 3. The only similarities to Demon's Souls are thematic to Miyazaki wishing to remake Demon's Souls in a new game, not direct.>It's just everything that came before, mashed together into a single game.Nonsense, it played nothing alike all the games you mentioned. It also had the most important evolution of Souls games.
>>732291371>It also had the most important evolution of Souls games.which is
>>732289162Few things are worse than Shadow of the Erdtree.
>>732291371>it played nothing alike all the games you mentioned.how, seriously. tell me what mechanics you think are unique to ds3 to make it "nothing alike" the other games
>>732291198Yeah like I said it's OP as fuck so you can actually use it without being good, as a shitter crutch weapon. It has nothing to do with "improving it". Rest assured you won't get bows that powerful in Elden Rong like you won't get full iframes ultimate attacks
>>732291417A functional and working hyperarmor system, actually understanding how to design enemies, weapon skills with active effects that actually meaningfully alter combat and casting while moving, pivoting and turning attacks properly.
>>732285073>forced pvpwhat do you mean "forced", nigger? the game is being advertised as a pvp game. do you ever play an online shooter and complain about having to shoot other players? fucking dumbass
>>732291454>>732291121>>732291572
>>732291572>>732291371>>732291191I revise my previous reply
>>732291690every pvp game with even the slightest amount of pve content attracts the pve vegans who complain that every pvp game is not just pve
>>732291165>It started as a game that heavily referenced Demon's Souls, and by the end it didn't really resemble anything.What exactly would constutute as "resembling anything" in your opinion? This just sounds like the most generic chatgpt prompt buzzword spouting nonsense to dunk on the game. Dark Souls 3 has its own theme, its own artistic flair, its own story and general thematics.
I'm trying to be excited for this game even though I hated Nightreign. I got to the wolf boss a few times and everybody just got slaughtered so I didn't get the point of the game. It made it super hard to concentrate on on multi-tasking both beating the boss(learning the moves) and worrying about reviving players all the while the boss is tuned for 3x the damage because there are 3 of you fighting it at the same time. For me it just wasn't fun, not to mention that most runs did not even result in getting as far as the boss because everybody died to some other enemy.I think this game will bomb, if not in initial sales then definitely in player retention when people like myself buy it even though I hated Nightreign and just drop it immediately anyway because it's all the things I disliked in the first place.
>>732288035I hope you are not a snoy, all of your games have a forced faggot mc and you love niggers
>>732291973Nightreign was the world's easiest layup, in terms of commercial success. It was hilarious watching /v/ predict it flopping.On the other hand, I really have no idea how to feel about Duskbloods. PvPvE is more niche than co-operative PvE, and all the more so on a platform like Switch 2 - which is an issue for another reason, FromSoft fans are primarily on PC and PS4/5. I think it'll do fine in the long-term if it's a timed exclusive that's eventually released on PC, which will happen if it's actually Project FMC, but on Switch 2... who knows.There IS a scenario where it sells well on Switch 2 depending on when it's released. If it's during a drought of other, good games, there's a chance that Nintendo fans just pick it up because there's nothing else and they trust FromSoft's reputation.
>>732291884On the other hand, every game with the slightest hint of PvP attracts the biggest pussy ratting metaslave fucks the universe has ever seen like flies to shit. And all they do is cry that the PvP isn’t rewarding enough, not stopping even when their whining leads to the best possible PvE gear being locked behind PvP (Destiny).
>>732291973Nightreign is superb if you play it with the mod that removes circle damage, meaning you can actually play the game without snorting adderall beforehand.
>>732292436lol imagine playing destiny keep seething
>>732292285If it comes out to 9-10/10 reviews it will sell great.
>>732291690its forced because no one wants to play it, no one wants to play it because the pvp is poorly designedthe pvp is poorly designed because its an afterthought: evidence: thrusting sword with lightning grease doing nothing but running around in circles waiting for your opponent to make a mistake is the objective correct way to playand, on top of all that, even if it was a well balanced system across the hundreds of different builds you can make, the netcode doesn't support high level play whatsoeversouls pvp is only enjoyable at the first release of a game when people are figuring things out, and even then its a bit of a shitshow (recall rivers & moonlight spam in 1.0)>YOU'RE JUST SCARED YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY PVPno, i want fun, enjoyable, engaging pvp with class creation in an arpg and from has never delivered this
>>732292604Nightreign was hated by critics and reviewed to lower scoreIt's a game that stands entirely on the shoulders of its gameplay mechanics and word of mouth
>>732292285Yeah, like I said, I'll pick it up even if there's a 99% chance I'll hate it because I love Bloodborne/Souls games a lot and I'll be disappointed.That's how it'll be a success, Fromsoft coasting on their name and fanboys like myself who don't really like this kind of game buying it because I hope this time I'll enjoy it despite what I know all to well about myself, that these kinds of PvPvE games aren't for me.
>>732291973>I'm trying to be excited for this game even though I hated Nightreign.Then don't, because it's going to be like Nightreign. It's a throwaway project in between major releases.
>>732292878>It's a game that stands entirely on the shoulders of its gameplay mechanics and word of mouthOne might go so far as to say it's a good game
>>732290137>While their previous games treated multiplayer as a side featurelol
>>732291179Dark Souls 1 and 2 stagger systems were total garbage, and Bloodborne system was shitWe didn't get proper parries and stagger until Dark Souls 3, which was the first time Fromsoftware got combat right
>>732292878This game shares nothing really with Nightreign from a design or gameplay perspective and it is locked to a single console. It will genuinely need to be considered good/really good from the get-go with positive coverage and have positive reception pushing it to dispell the negativity that comes from these multiplayer only games and it's from a dev who hasn't made a game for Nintendo platforms. Nintendo will be looking for new adopters for their console. A 78 metacritic score will not cut it.
When did DS3fags become more mentally ill than DS2 truthers? What was the tipping point that caused them to become the more annoying subset of the fanbase? Was it Elden Ring's release 4 years ago?
>>732281706retard
>>732285747>Ukrainebased fuck Russian dogs
Feel like the only person on the planet unironically excited for duskbloods lol>>732293747They've always been annoying, just time has eroded your resistance/tolerance to them, they did get a little extra deranged when miyazaki canonized 2 by including heavy references to it in the DS3 DLC, two of their copes until then were that it wasn't cannon and that miyazaki didn't care for it.
>>732286216What even happened here? You hit him before the webm started and it only registered much later?
>>732294003i'm excited for it but dsIItroons/CODbabbies get the rope
>>732294213All the hits registered way later and it usually goes both ways
>>732292814calm down retardyou are freaking out over a made up scenario in your head
>>732294003I'm excited. Its the first entirely new IP they've done since Elden Ring.
>>732296001They reskin an old franchise and slap a new IP on it every few years.
>>732297856being reductive doesn't make you correct
>>732279857How about you Steamies and you Tendies both shut the fuck up with your gay ass port begging, get an actual job, get money, and buy both the Switch 2 and a PC. I already plan to buy a Switch 2 when the OLED revision comes along with getting the Steam Deck 2 when that comes. You're a borderline retard if you refuse to get a console or PC because a brand loyalty. Eat shit, you stupid port begging faggot, you deserve nothing and you get nothing. Worthless third world poorfag, got we should just nuke your brown asses already, damn.
>>732299894*of*god
I'm surprised my thread didn't die. It's a first. Pity I don't get any money out of it
>>732299894Truthnvke
>>732279857>Not gonna buy a switch 2 regardless but still
>>732279857Maybe? Depends on IP ownership, if its a deal like Bloodborne, and Nintendo owns it, the only way youre playing on PC is in a decade when switch 2 emulators release. If From owns it then I thi k PC release is inevitable. Ill play it on switch 2, but its not what sold me on the console so I dont really care if its exclusive or not.
>>732286571look up nintendos install base by age.
>>732279857>not on ps5nope, not a real souls game
