Redpill me on this franchise
>>732283860It has no depth whatsoever and is functionally an incremental time waster like a paradox game for casual dudebros that aged out of halo and gears of war. Hope that helps.
Just play Shogun 2.If you don't want to turn into an unironic weeb just play the Warhammer one
>>732284016He's asking about Total War, not shmupslop
>>732283860reskin of the same game for the past 15 years
>>732283860Retarded combat.Basically impossible to completely wipe out units in an army.
>>732284047Just play sengoku jidai
>>732283860I bought Warhammer 3 two months ago purely for the Warhammer setting and not the Total War gameplay. I already have 500 hours in it. It's my first Total War game.
>>732283860A half assed 4X mashed into a half assed RTS
I've logged over 1,000 hours in Warhammer 3, with a few of the other games on my Steam wishlist.If you like map games with a focus on large-scale battles, you will love these games. Just pick your favorite historical era and go from there. You'll have a good time
>>732283860RTS disguised as a 4X game. Choose your time period and choose a nation and just fight other people. The community is split between historical games and the warhammer games but both are fun. I just wish the modern games had the building system of any game before shogun 2. Building slots suck.
>>732283860The franchise is a sick reminder of what happened to the video game industry et al.That said, the first Rome: Total War game is the only one worth playing. It has the best controls, ui, the least glitches, and you get commander speeches every battle. Not having the speeches in later games is so fucking gay.
The 40K version is going to be dumb.
>>732285128i wonder if the armies are going to control like shit like warhammer 3 did for absolutely no reason.
>>732284457nope, 2weeb
>>732285076I'd rather play Dungeon Keeper 2 you dumbass nerd, are you really ok with the fucking sprite-popping in that game? Stfu faggot
It's fun
>>732285389mad
>>732285389This post is a sick reminder of what happened to this board
Deal with it
>>732283860avoid trannyhammermedieval 2, shogun 2 and rome are the bestnapoleon if you like the time period
>>732283860I really dont feel like shilling for CA but I enjoyed the earlier game. The modding scene is one of the best in vidya.
It's similar to Monster Hunter in the sense that everything outside the major focus (in this case, combat and scale) is arguably bad.>Have hundreds of animating characters fighting at once>The AI is barely passable>The campaigns are meh>Retarded stuff like no allied victories
>>732283860RTT + RTSlite, grand campaign map that is like a very lite version of a grand strategy game, most of the 'focus' is on the battles, but even the battles are kinda basic bitch. Rome 1 with complete overhaul mods was amazing. The warhammer games are, to me, the only ones that have a ton of play value (talking thousand of hours, in contrast to hundreds in older games), because they offer massive variety in factions and units thanks to the fantasy factor (orcs, zombies, medieval knights, lizardmen, dwarves, elves you name it). Some of the games, like Empire, are nearly completely broken and have non-functional, retarded AI.
i want to play WH3 but ive never played a total war game before, so im scared that ill be too stupid/bad to win battles. you have to learn hotkeys dont you? >just auto resolve no, i want to battle manually
>>732283860[...]In the shade of olive trees, they said Italy could never be conquered. In the land of pharaohs and kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled. In the realm of forest and snow, they said Russia could never be tamed. Now they say nothing, they fear me,
The warhammer ones are way too fast. The campaign map are braindead, and the battles are over in less than 5 minutes. Maybe 8 minutes if you have a REALLY big battle and need to wait 2 minutes for reinforcements to arrive.The only good nu-total wars are Attila and Three Kingdoms.
>>732288539I ama NapoopaN
>>732288963pipi poopooman cannot be stopped
>>732288342I genuinely think it's impossible to not be able to figure out these types of strategy games. If I could do it back when I was literally 10 years old with Medieval 2. Just know that the only way you will learn is by playing the game and figuring it out as you play. Watching videos or tutorials or whatever won't get you that far.
>>732288342Just try it, everyone suck at first, it is not rocket science, you will lose some than you will get better. You can also watch some YT videos to get better (Turin,Zerkovich,Enticity..). Just avoid LegendofTotalWar, he focus on cheeses which will make your game too easy. Learn on your mistakes.
>>732284047This anon is the kind of cancer that ruined the franchise.
>>732284047These are the only 2 I've played and they are both good.
>>732283860CA are terminally incompetent and do not understand their own games. The AI hasn’t improved since Shogun or Medieval 2. They’re outsourcing to a studio that make bigger changes but likewise doesn’t fully grasp the game. Everything breaks every update.
>>732283860Shogun 2 and Rome II are the only good, modern engine games. The old games are the true kino but might not have aged well for Zoomer expectations. There has not been a good TW game in 10 years.
it pisses me off that these games never have a casual campaign, everything is always strict time limits and AUTOMATIC GAME OVER IF YOU AREN'T EXPANDING EVERY TURN type shit, none of these games seem to give a chance to enjoy yourself anyway i can say that napoleon and medieval 2 are good despite the aforementioned criticism
>>732288621is 3K actually good? i might get it, it looks nice and appears to have quite a positive reception
>>732292581It has the best diplomacy in the entire franchise, the different factions have pretty unique playstyles, and the battles are fun (if you like hero characters)It suffers from spearmanii issues like all historical total wars, some people hate the new recruitment system, and the game was just completely abandoned soon after release despite being well received. Also if you DONT like hero characters and want to play on the historical mode the game loses most of its charm since half the game is spending time building up the heroes, their gear, and their relationships with others
By far the greatest Strategy game series ever produced>Turn based map campaign with indepth mechancis>Not troon core like paradox games (false depth, lots of numbers to optimize, basically just a spread sheet with no substance)>Truly epic battles of thousands, not fag pixel shit like Dominions>A game and thriving mod community for every worthwhile pre-modern historical era>Easy to pirate
>>732288342It's a singleplayer centric franchise and the warhammer games are the easiest to get into of any of them. I played and did well when I was 7, if you're an adult man you can enjoy these games.
>>732293905Wonder if there's enough sense left at CA to not fuck up 40k or if they're dumb enough to start with a shitassbuttload of technical debt
>>732293905Cant wait for the Truly epic battles of thousands where the massive horde of orks (2000 men) will fight against an entrenched Imperial Guard unit (2000 men)truly a battle for the ages
>>73229401640k is an entirely new engine, so hopefully it won't be fucked from the start
>>732294028Will still be the largest playable battles in 40k game history.
Are Rome 1 and Medieval 2 worth it? I refuse to buy the newer games because they have too many DLCs.
>>732294661They're both fun, about equitable in quality depending on what era you find more interesting. Pathfinding is a little jank but other than that they hold up well
>>732284016damn as a warhammer 3 player this is too real
>>732296106Yeah that's the total war game with the least depth in the entire franchise
>>732285076Shogun 2 has the commander speeches before every battle unless you skip.
>>732284016You only play Space Invaders lmao
>>732285076>the first Rome: Total War game is the only one worth playingOriginal or remaster?
>>732288342You do NOT have to learn hotkeys, but you should remember that alt+left click drag is a thing.Everybody will suck fat cock when starting out no matter the game, because formation combat and its tactics aren't the most intuitive thing in the world. In the Warhammer games at least you can select a single unit and hold down spacebar and that will show you what enemy units will beat or be beaten in melee by your selected unit.
>>732289336Not a laughing matter
>>732283860Blue pill: Play Shogun or Rome IIRed pill: Play Warhammer IIIBlack pill: Play Medieval II with Stainless Steel
>>732296602Remaster unless you want to fidget with the original crashing on you 4000x on modern PCs.>I still prefer the original though
>>732298909Mods are cringe.
>>732298909>playing a TW without MP campaign?
>>732283860old and smelly franchise that was on its deathbed before it got saved by warhammer chads
People only care about Medieval 3 coming out in a few years
>>732299613Medieval 3 Hundred Dollars of DLCs
>>732283860Play Napoopan.Stop at Napoopan.
Every Creative Assembly studio is incompetent to the max, they work incredibly slowly, all their games full of bugs, every new game of theirs is worse then their predecessor. I have 0 faith in 40k and med 3. Atleast you can easily pirate all the DLC from the warhammer games. Shit studio, will never see a dime from me again.
>>732299968They're not incompetent, there's simply no reason to do anything since people will shower them with money anyway.
>>732291123Nah Rome 2 is absolute dogshit
>>732283860Everything after shogun 2 was shitsome might say rome 2 is accaptable, but everyone shitted on the game on release.
>>732300795Rome 2 is in better shape than in its release but that isn't saying much
>>732292212bro, you have like 350 turns to finish the campaign, this is enough time to conquer the entire map thrice.
>>732294661very worth, but just play vanilla for more 2 hours to get the hang of it, then look for a mod that looks cool to you, there are a shit ton out there with all different themes.
>>732300795everything after med2 is dogshit.The new engine doesn't simulate actual mass on the units so all cavalry feels like its made of paper.Only reason shogun2 is "good" is because of the setting where cavalry is supposed to be light shitty ponies.
>>732283860CA just never bothered to make the gameplay deeper. It's been like 20 years and there's no way to do advanced tactics, controlled retreats and other things that people did in battle. Winning with hammer and anvil gets boring after 500 times.
>>732283860Not worth playing any of the games released after Rome II
great historical simsthen they changed how combat workednow bad historical simsEverything from Rome 2 and onwards is not worth playing at all
>>732300507nta but what makes it a bad game?
>>732291123Rome 2 is where it started to go horribly wrong, every complaint about modern total war either started there or massively upscaled already existing problems
>>732283860Really cool battles stuck inside 4x slop
>>732301694>complains about hammer and anvil>posts the most egregious use of hammer and anvil in literal historyanon...
>>732283860Let me abyss pill you...Kys nigger
>>732299360>Muh mpKill yourself, zoomer
>>732301694Roman cav being so shit never stops amusing me
>>732304243What the fuck is happening here?
>>732306296I imagine an extremely smelly substance was placed near the air intake on the suit. So now the entire inside of the suit smells like that and the guy is desperately trying to get out.
>>732300795I liked Three Kingdoms, but maybe I'm biased from playing a lot of ROTK games growing up.
>>732293905>putting the rock on a map
>>732306478>substance so smelly he immediately would rather shove his face in the other guy's ass
>>732285128You say this like it's a bad thing. Yeah it'll be dumb, it'll be dumb fun. You know? The point of games, to have dumb fun. Fuck you arseholes really are so far up your own arse you've lost all semblance of what this hobby is all about.
>>7322922123k doesn't have a turn limit. Not sure how long that's been the case, last game with a turn limit I can remember is Shogun 2.
