why did people like wrath when this shit existed?
Cause Vanilla still existed.
We weren't 80 IQ apes like you who got filtered by soulful dungeons.
>northrend was amazing to explore even if it wasnt perfect (troll zone, boring tundra)>a lot of really good zones despite that with great music (storm peaks all time favorite)>motivating to want to see more of arthas>ulduar turned out to be one of the best raids the game ever made>3 drakes was fun to do>cool old-gods content hidden throughout>aznubebut yeah not everything was good:>some dungeons like op's pic sucked>we did get rug pulled on the nerubian zone>dk & pallys were broken the entire expansion>"heroclass" total failure idea, patch 3.2, dungeon finder, naxxoh and a bit of history: nerfing warlock's drain life spell in 3.1.something lead to the creation of the Ethereum blockchain by an autistic Russianit was the last tolerable expansion, not its peak, that comes during level 30ish on your first playthrough when you've invested a lot into your character but there is still an entire world to explore (and you dont run out of quests and suffer through the 40-50 depression yet)
>>732288057>oh and a bit of history: nerfing warlock's drain life spell in 3.1.something lead to the creation of the Ethereum blockchain by an autistic Russianyeah, because he didn't just make that up for shits and giggles
>>732287428>wtf I have to use a vehicle that has 3 buttons? too confusing too complex uuhggghh le clunky le clunky!People like you are the reason nuBlizz kept streamlining and oversimplifying the game
>>732289605the dragon abilities suckedespecially on the last bossnothing indicates that you have to channel that ability until you get 100 stacks and the stack size is very well hiddennot only was it an UI issue, but the abilities were underwhelmingit took me me until ICC phase of classic to understand how the bronze dps dragon workedand I played the original in 2008that's how bad it was designedthe healing dragon was also way too underpowered, both in healing and in life drain
>>732287428People avoided Oculus like they avoided DK tanks in Ramparts. Once dungeon finder went live people didn't care that much about getting Oculus
>>732291412>Once dungeon finder went live people didn't care that much about getting OculusI dunno about you but I still regularly got people dropping group before I even loaded in all the way into wrath classic.
>>732287428Fucking hated Oculus.
>>732287428Kino dungeon
>finally run it in classicokay yeah this dungeon isn't very fun and confusing as hell
>>732290910>nothing indicates that you have to channel that ability until you get 100 stacks you read what the ability does, retard>and the stack size is very well hiddenit shows on the fucking boss's unit frame, retard
>>732287428Yeah this one sucked. It was somehow both long and confusing sort of like brd but had an incredibly boring layout like shadow lab
>>732291582They learned for ToC and moved the vehicle fight to the start so you don't end up with a wasted time if group can't do a fight.
>>732292154>you read what the ability does, retardon Temporal Rift where does it say "channel this until you get ONE HUNDRED stack because that is the maximum"?on Shock Lance where does it say "do not use this until you have ONE HUNDRED stacks from the temporal rift">it shows on the fucking boss's unit framefirst of all, why is it hidden to the tiny little debuff bar of the boss unit frame where I have to hover over it with my mouse to see anything?second, the boss unit frame shows the debuff stacks coming from all other bronze dragons too, so I have to guess which one is mineno, there should be like a bar on the middle of my screen indicating the stacks and when it is full the Shock Lance ability should light up indicating that it should be usedjust admit that blizzard made a bad design decision here
>>732292348>ToCMost difficult dungeon in all of classic so far desuEspecially the Palatress bossShe even casually summons Algalon for gods sake!
>>732292959Get some melee with interrupts and you should be good. Forge of Souls was a pain in the ass both for mobs and the first boss
anon is having a melty over a vehicle bossflame leviathan with all towers up must have torn him a new asshole
I wonder when the degenerates start posting.>>732287428It was different, easier, streamlined, had new systems, more accessability etc.
>>732287428Wrath was literally the peak of Wow from zones, music, gear, city, class power scale and raids. Everything after was a sharp decline into complete gay nigger cringe.
>>732289605I want to play my class not spam a button on a dragon.
>>732294579>class power scalemogged by pandaland
Who playing TBC tomorrow?
>>732295604Is this the 3rd release of tbc?
>>732295604Should I do it? I haven't played TBC since original tbc in 2.2
>>732287428Because while the outside sucked ass, the interior was one of the coolest dungeons ever designed. It's music is forever burned into my head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EalsU80snzs
>>732288057>ts peak, that comes during level 30ish on your first playthroughThis is true for all MMOs ever
>>732295736It's gonna be my first time since playing original TBC too. My SoD guild got back together for it and we've got like 30 guys ready to level.
>>732295804In that name:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnXC_75SHI
>>732295264Pandaland would unironically be the 2nd best expansion after North if it didn't come with old zones absolutely raped by cata.
>>732295707yes and this is what it will look like yet again https://youtu.be/iRt9mgLPJn4?si=9KhyCe9tfiPkUkbf&t=58
>>732289605Same problem as Ulduar vehicle fight. No place to learn it outside of the specific encounter.
>>732296337to be fair that is true for every encounter ever
>>732296337you learn to use the vehicle all the way until the fight itself just like with oculusif you want to really complain then you should talk about the Malygos last phase because that one is forced onto you
>>732296528Keep gargling Metzens nonbinary balls.
>>732295604Not me, playing it last time showed me that it's all nostalgia, it's genuinely as bad as post cata slop
>>732296695You literally said there was no place to learn it when that's wrong. Stop making shit up.
>>732287428I only liked wrath because for a brief time retardins were so OP I could kill a bunch of death knights 5v1 and got free glad. Then they nerfed it because they couldn't have retardins shitting on the darling class selling expansion copies for them. God damn WoW is and always was so fucking gay and retarded.
>>732296528>Malygos last phaseliterally everyone just presses 1 1 2 1 1 3 over and over again and thats it
the better question is why do people like wow at all? its like watching paint dry. this shit is abysmal. always has been.
>>732298183Multiplayer action RPG. People like action RPGs. It was basically >the< action rpg for years before it got ran into the ground and everyone started making action rpgs.
>>732298183Tab targeting was behind other games but blizzard managed to make it entertaining + the MMO element carried it. You'd be surprised how difficult it was in Vanilla for example, to coordinate 40 people into fulfilling their class roles just to take down Ragnaros.Ragnaros's fight is literally just "Spams AOE and stacking debuff" and requires only people performing their roles, which is simple and basic compared to later expansions which were simpler than the Final Fantasy 14 turning everything into a complex floor is lava game.
>>732287428At least the vehicle sections were trying to do something novel, but Blizzcucks couldn't comprehend it and so it got dropped.
I'm ready for a fresh wotlk server, havent had my hit of wow in a bit
>>732287428Oculus was peak and you are the reason wow is shit today
>>732287428because there were like 10 other dungeons you could run
>>732296928uh if you could win 5v1's then it was overpowered why the fuck would it not be nerfed you schizo retard
Wotlk is a newfag trap, entire expansion is pure ass outside of maybe ulduar, TBC is an improvement outside of outlands being trash
>>732299446>Outlands being trashThe clear difference in quality between BC areas and the old world was staunch. No I'm not going to say the old worlds were bad because fuck did Cata ruin them, but the first moments in Hellfire felt game changing.
Man, blizzard used to be so good at designing female characters. I remember falling in love with this nelf here just because of how cute she was. I will never forgive feminism for destroying the company that made stuff like this.
>>732299354The point you doublenigger is that this is the only reason the game was ever popular. Its a merry go round rotation of specific classes/specs getting to shit on everyone else, either in arenas or on damage meters. WoW players are just too narcissistic to admit this is why they play it and why they're so easy to part with their money. No one actually likes any of the stupid shitty content they've added over the years. Also fuck you, death kunt you got what you deserved in wintergrasp you keyboard turning piece of shit.
I have 0 desire to play Wrath again. I am not even hyped for classic plus because I know they are going to fuck it up. Came back for TBC, will likely quit in a month then play again in 4 years for TBC again for a month.
>>732296928>>732299961I recall paladins being good after the nerf. Blizzard had an issue of letting some classes slide bring broken if they were shit the prior expansion unless it was the class the lead pvp dev was playing at the time.
>>732287613this dungeon was anything but soulful
>>732301648ok, esl chimp
>>732287428i returna second chance to carve your skull
>>732288057We'll be going back to northrend with current graphics and stuff in 3 or so years.Only reason not to be excited is that you assume they'll fuck it up. Because otherwise it should be a pretty fun prospect.
>>732302018>ESL ESL ESLyour vocabulary is as rich as oculus was ever fun
>has QoL improvements over TBC while also keeping the game high skill cap still>snow level>DK>Lich King>dual spec>3v3 arena>no chinky pandas>no dogshit cataclysm ruining the world>exploration and parkour were much better with engineering and mammoth mounts>glitching into Dalaran arena, behind the bank, old IFRetard. That's why. The game just peaked.
>>732287428WoW niggros were mentally consoleniggers who played on PC.They literally ate shit and thought it was chocolate.
>>732296528Malygos fight had a training version too it's just extremely well hidden in a daily that nobody ever does.
>>732302349humiliation ritual: the dungeon
>>732287428>AIIIIIEEEEE THIS DUNGEON IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE ELVUI BROKE MY VEHICLE BUTTONS, FIX IT NOW BLIZZARD
>>732303795blizzard please ban addons from classic god it would be so funny
>>732287428Hey, fuck you buddy, I loved Occulus!Malygos was fun as fuck and riding dragons was tight.
>>732302349>>732303709What's so bad about it? Aside from TWW's general crap
>>732302349>it's still bugged to shit even 2 years after launchif you're still playing this game unironically neck yourselves as soon as possible
>>732287585this, Wrath content wasn't the whole game
>>732287428Oculus was great. Just average player was RETARDED, like you OP.Wish your mother didn't drink while she was pregnant in 1995.
>>732303909>healbot-ass macro addons vanish overnight>threat meters go the way of the dodo>An absence of auto raid warnings that tell idiots what it to by putting warnings IN ALL CAPS AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN means people who never bother to learn boss' tactics are worse than dead weightIt would be wonderful to see it come to pass..I haven't even played WoW in 15 years, butI'd log back in on one of those free 'plz come back' offers, just to watch the world burn.
>>732303950Was buggy entire expansion. But when it worked it was actually a great dungeon that filtered anyone who just wanted to hold W
>>732304323>I'm so superior to you for enjoying spamming 1 then 2 on my clunky vertical transport with shitty delayed animationsif only we could all be as smart as you, anon
>>732304323His mother did a ton of depraved shit while she was pregnant. Some videos of it online.
>>732287428I literally leave the party and take the 15 min penalty when this piece of shit comes up
>>732288057This zone could have been the new Blackrock Mountain but instead we got nothing. Wrath was when the Activision takeover was starting to show. There's still good stuff out there (early development probably) but it gets shat on by everything being a total pushover. We got even worse corridor dungeons, worst case with some garbage gimmick like OP pointed out , the artstyle shifting from bright saturated colors to more dull textures and every weapon looking like its made out of fucking stone, total VFX shitstorm for every spell cast, dungeon finder, taking a big fat steaming turd on Naxx and turned it into a parody of what it was, etc.At least they managed to keep high tier TBC items relevant throughout leveling up. Arthas showing up during questing was cool but the game started to suffer from the 'you are the hero' syndrome
>5 minute long event that's completely trivial to any group that has at least one person with decent gear>only enjoyable part of the dungeon are the optional bosses that every single group absolutely refuses to do because they just want to get their daily frost emblem and fuck off as soon as possibleI hated this shit ass dungeon
>>732304578dear fucking lord the event was such a PITA after this dungeon stopped being relevant and got power crept. But in retrospective every launch dungeon were shit in wraith by virtue of being mostly face roll
>>732288057>Wintergrasp on server with alliance outnumbered like 50:1 >Waddle out with my gnome warlock with twelve billion HP and extra damage>Slay a dozen people each time I spawn before being brought down. >loseWintergrasp was such a shitshow. Even if we won(at like 4am on a weekday) sometimes we didn't have enough people to even attempt the 25 man.
>>732289605>>732287428>>732296528>>732296337The funny thing is Occulus is an extremely fast and easy dungeon, if you group knows what to do.You can legit skip 2-3 trivial mechanics on bosses and trash and it is legit a 5-10 minute dungeon.It only is a pain in the ass, if you have retards that can't handle the initial trash on the inner ring and the last 2 bosses.Especially the exploding orbs filter mongoloids.>People like you are the reason nuBlizz kept streamlining and oversimplifying the gameThat being said, even though Occolus is actual a super fast dungeon and even Flame Leviathan is a boss you can do as 2 people in 10 men.Vehicle combat is extremely gay.Not only is it kinda unfun it also becomes a slog fest, if you have retards in your group.Malygos is also a mega slop boss.>DPS presses 1+1+2>Heal just presses 3 and 4>get targeted by his beam press 5Vehicle combat is just trash, the same can be said about Strand of the Ancient, or some parts of Wintergrasp.
>>732287428>refurbished raid>chore patch>one room raid with no class tiersloving wrath is the sign of a retarded boomer
>>732287428Every1 hated occ wtf are you on about its just 1 dungeon and even before group finder people just didnt do it
>>732287428this was fine though.what wasnt fine was rehashing naxxramas and T9.lazy expansion.
TWW > wrath of the sloppiest bitch
>>732304578I think I did this place once in Wrath and completely forgot it existed until now.
>>732305050The more I read this thread the more shit I forgot about and with good reason.
>>732302349>>732287428Imagine getting filtered by a dungeon just because it isn't a hallway simulator
cause the game still had soulheres my be pally rocking the legendary heal hammer in august 09
>>732304521agreed 100%
>>732302714>high skill cap
Oculus used 3d space instead of being a straight line which filtered 95% of the playerbase.
>>732304978Wintergrasp was a result of Blizzard copying the homework of literally fucking everyone for every game they do from day 1. They were trying to rip off the Warhammer MMO that came out around then.
>>732305230sometimes I forget people like this exist
>>732305406>guild put me third in line to get smourneI was never a meter whore prior to that but I spent every second prior to getting mine making sure I out-DPS'd the two people who had theirs in every single fight.
>>732305781hehi was GM together with a buddy of mine so it was an easy decisionsecond spot was way harder
buy an ad maye
>>732304978I played on an outnumbered server too and seriously the fact that blizzard never did anything at all to combat faction imbalance was fucking retarded.That said, as bad as Wintergrasp was at least the underpopulated faction could sometimes win it if they got lucky. Tol Barad in Cataclysm was just fucking nonsense, whichever team didn't have enough players never stood a chance in that stupid musical chairs BG. I remember being able to get into Vault of Archavon almost every week during WotLK but I seriously think I only ever got to do Baradin Hold like twice the entire time I played Cata.
I played WoTLK on release. WoTLK was probably the most overrated expansion, ever. It gets carried hard by Warcraft Lore and Arthas.>All the dungeons are piss easy and boring>Only good raid is Ulduar>ICC is incredibly underwhelming, boring bosses aside from the last few>Nothing to do but raid log in DalaranIt had an excellent soundtrack though. Most expansions are also garbage. TBC was good but had a lot of problems. It was always 1 step foward 2 steps back. Going to new worlds via expansion packs really fucked them in the ass. By cata it was too late. Nothing will replace Eastern Kingdoms and Kalmidor, but Im not playing fucking vanilla gameplay from over 20 years ago.
>>732294106Forge of souls was incredibly easy unless you have retard dps that couldnt stop pressing their buttons during mirror phase on last boss. PoS was easy unless you had a retarded tank at last boss. Last dungeon (forget the name) was quite hard with the first 2 bosses IIRC, the arthas encounter was a joke and retarded. Dude couldnt walk faster than 1kph.Despair.... so delicious
>>732307063
>>732295604TBC gameplay is incredibly boring anon unless you're playing feral or fury warrior. It's time to put the nostalgia glasses down. I still remember my first time in Karazhan when I was like 14, it was magical, but that feeling will never be replicated ever again, no matter how hard you try.
>>732307063Halls of ReflectionI never understood the problem everyone had with that dungeon, you can just round up all the waves by using the alcoves to LOS them, and then it's just another cleave fest like any other WotLK dungeon.
>>732304578HoS is probably the worst dungeon in WoTLK. That or CoS. Violet Hold is also a contender for being so fucking boring, but some people like it because you can afk it. But that water boss that split up was nigger aids garbage. I also didn't like Halls of reflection that much.
>>732304391>cant hold wso not a great dungeon
>>732307315Reflect on THIS
>>732307338Violet Hold is repetitive as shit but it's actually one of the fastest dungeons, shit barely takes 10 minutes to beat.
>>732295604Not giving blizzo any money lol
>>732287428Wrath came out at the right time for the first wave of Warcraft 3/TFT nostalgia.Wrath is an awful written expansion and a lot of it's content was shit, but that nostalgia of seeing your childhood like that works wonders
don't mind me, just passing through
>>732307619truke
>>732307708Probably the most soulless thing you can do would be buying a time-lost proto drake instead of finding it yourself.
>>732288057What "explore"? You got to 80 after like 15 hours and 3 out of 7 zones.
>>732308359Can't you basically just force it to spawn by abusing layering or cross-realm or something? I know there's TLPD kill groups and the mount is just worthless these days.
>>732291412>Once dungeon finder went live people didn't care that much about getting OculusAbsolute fucking bullshit, they had to add the fucking drake mount so people would stop leaving immediately when they got the dungeon because most of the time people instantly left.
>>732308531Thats how chinks sell the mount. They hop between layers and servers until they find one spawned then invite buyers.
>>732305732same happened with vash'jr, the most creative zone ever put into an MMO.
>>732302714I'm even a wow shill and>high skill cap
The Argent Tournament was the best raid in WOW history.>short>horse fights>very festive!Nothing comes close.
>>732308963Learning hard mode Anub was soul crushing. I still remember the sheer dread of having to log in for a night of progression on it.
>>732296337>oh no I can't use 3 buttons without "practicing" beforehandgenuine shitter
>>732308963The fact that people used to struggle on faction champions really shows how bad everyone was a video games back then.
Being arcane mage and pressing 1 button to win was fun. Arcane sucks now that you have to use 4 buttons.
I'm really biased because I massively enjoyed DKs back then, but looking back, Wrath was part of the decline.
>>732309718True decline was when they allowed flying mounts.
>>732309718DKs peaked in WotLK and might as well have been removed in cata as far as I'm concerned. I miss frost tanking.
WoW players can't even play their own class, and you expect them in the middle of a fight to learn how a vehicle works? hahahahaha
>>732309795>WORLD of warcraft>lol just fly over the world
>>732309795I liked how flying mounts weren't allowed in Dalaran, they should have done that to every city.
>why make the game better and add fun content when you can just add new races, classes, and dumbfuck features?
The only good thing about flying mounts was logging into your mates account and dismounting in the sky just before logging out.
>>732292195I might be remembering incorrectly but wasn't it just "climb the weird stone helix, fight the dragon man, climb some more, fight the mage, get on the dragon and fight the dragon"How is that a confusing layout?
>>732309812>Frost TankWas never a fan of "All DK specs can dps or tank" with blood feeling incredibly confused in its purpose as DPS. Making it into the tank spec made way more sense.
>barely 200 non ai generated art of the TWW void elf girlnot a dead game
Originally DK was meant to frost tank, but people found out quickly that blood was just better all around at tanking.
>>732311204Blood felt better for main tanking, frost for off tanking and dungeons. Howling Blast just shits AoE threat, nothing blood can do could compare.
>>732311034xal'atath is a Legion character and possessed her elf body in BFA btw
>>732287428Oculus is easy and doesn't even take very long. People just didn't like that the last boss required a different type of gameplay you used between bosses. Might even be the epitome of people complaining so hard Blizzard just decided to make plenty of future dungeons and raids into hallways.
>>732287428If you weren't a mouthbreathing mongoloid, Oculus was actually the fastest dungeon in the area. It was not hard.
>>732311204Unholy could tank as well, they deliberately designed all DK specs for tanking by just picking certain tanking talents.
>>732311340>almost 0 art since BFAdead fucking game
If u couldn't instruct the tards to follow u and press 3 buttons on their keyboard then u were the tard and I'm glad u had a bad time in oculus
>>732305230Slightly off topic, but I remember watching someone playing WoW and basically spinning around in circles in Scarlet Monastery Armoy, an area that did amount to a few hallways, and even ran back to the entrance when he was clearly walking past corpses of enemies he just killed before he realized he was going the wrong way. I think that was the first time I fully understood what the "average person" experience is like.
>>732296928Nigga wat paladins with the t10 set bonus becoming holy helicopters and access to abom in jar trinket/shadowmourne was peak
>>732307708>go into Storm Peaks>click macro to see if I can find Time-Lost>actually fucking see it>someone else got it, aggros it, and it's one hit away from deathThat was the closest I ever got to seeing it for myself, outside of one private server where it would respawn right away after dying so everyone had it.
>>732312325mine just fell to an unreachable spot and it never got mailed
>>732312325I recall spending a regrettable amount of time hunting for one and never got it.Then there was the time I was told to fuck off by some third worlder ESL guy hunting for the stone drake in deepholm and we argued with each other, then I saw him a few days later with it and seethed.I think I tried doing this thing where I would try and solo sky wall for the cloud drake but then I eventually gave up on that.
wrath dungeons are horrible, as well as most the raids
>>732316076>mostall
>>732316076I remember enjoying Azjol Nerubs branches. The Nexus and whatever Vykrul one had the ice dragon rider.Also the ICC bypass dungeons.But this was probably all in terms of aesthetic, I recall they had baby tier mechanics.Like for example, recall King Ymiron summoning ghosts from longboats but do not recall knowing or even caring what they actually did, because the mechanic was a nothing burger.
>>732309220>first kill on realm>we got it that night because the track went down during the last few %, and i distracting shot, parry ability, disengage, fd and he goes down. Was good shit. Fight had nothing on most Ulduar hardmodes, but the moment was great.
>>732287428Because back then you could just pretend this dungeon didn't exist and it was fine. There was no M+ it was a mandatory part of the pool or anything that was part of the required rating.
>>732316281Ulduar was the best raid they made, up to and including ICC. Can't speak for anything later as I quit when we beat hard mode LK.
>>732316662>ulduar>bestlmfao all the fights are literally dude kill trash lmao
>>732316748They really aren't. >firefighter>algalon>yogg-sanityEven the most basic fight has its hard mode be>don't break the ice
>>732287428This dungeon, and all of them, is piss easy. The problem wasn't the dungeon, it's that you only did it with retards.Or alternatively you yourself were the retard.More likely you only did the dungeon AFTER they added dungeon finder, over a full year after the expansion launched.The content wasn't intended to be ran with the worst bottom feeding trash across half a dozen servers but that's who got filtered down in LFD.If you played the game as god intended, with a group of friends, guildies, or carefully selected people from your server who knew they couldn't risk being labelled a retard and thus never get invited to anything again, then you had a good time because the people you played with actually had a brain.
>>732316940they litreally were>trash but in a vehicle (was hated at the time)>trash for 3 min until dragon comes down>who gives a shit about ignis?>trash while you wait for the infantile bot to close his heart or you get to kill more trash>trash in an arena or trash on the way to the storm faggot>kill all trash in the garden slowly or kill it at once>kill tentacle trashmost overrated raid of all time
>>732316590>modern WoW players literally do the exact same dungeons for the exact same gear the entire expansion
>>732317169Yes, and they love it. They even voted in the same 2-3 dungeons 2 seasons in a row because they had trinkets they liked.Modern WoW players are cattle.
>>732317169Not even modern, the system was added a decade ago. Things have been grim for far longer than they were good.
>>732316986Man I had such a good time back then when I played since I could tank. I'd just get constant whispers from people asking me to tank their dailies or pug raids. But I almost always did my daily with a group of guildies. And the most fun about doing daily 5 mans with guildies was doing them as 5 dps. It was also funny when like 3 of us would queue together as tank/dps/heal but all in dps spec we'd get 2 randoms who'd freak out at first and then start having fun when they realised it was all good.
>>732287428it filtered retards and worthless tag-alongs. should've made more shit like it.
>>732296928
>>732287428there was a WoW "high" which didn't start wearing off until the argent tournament patch, when the activision influence was becoming apparent
>>732304741allowing heroics to become pure faceroll was the beginning of the end
>>732309220There was some kind of unholy disease spec at the time that made it incredibly easy to hit the necessary DPS checks. I have fond memories of progression on that fight, because it was actually fun. Not like fights in Cataclysm or some of the later stuff at all.
>>732310869should've been frost. just because frost strike had its numbers set too high doesn't mean it had to be a dps spec...
>>732311512the problem was that you needed at least three people who weren't mouthbreathing mongoloids for it to be fast and easy. now, if you weren't an MBO that wasn't too bad since you only needed to find 2/4, but for a MBO it meant you needed 3/4, which was a taller ask
>>732317572>argent tournamenttalk about dropping the ball
>>732317572>when the activision influence was becoming apparentidk it still just smells like short hours and poor planning to me
>>732317924Nah I liked how it played like a duel wield frost paladin.The tank elements of frost were basic bitch boring Warrior-like stuff, so making Blood the primary with the self heal had more identity.Yeah Howling blast had high aggro, but blood boil was underutilized as a tanking skill.
>>732318160>like a xright, nothing new
>>732318235IIRC there wasn't a good duel wield build for Paladins. DPS frost just worked and blood tanks were more interesting. Honestly don't get your gripe, like I said all the ice tanking shit was "Ah gotta freeze my blood for more armor" compared to chad self heal of blood.
>>732287428Every single dungeon in Wrath was dog shit boring. Nostalgia fags mentally blocked it off, but they were streamlined for the LFG tool. Granted, poorly balanced gearing toward the end of TBC left the community in an expectant state of steam rolling everything. Wrath not only extended late TBC gearing, but included a tool to make things go faster. Cataclysm dungeons were what the game deserved post TBC, but by then it was way too late: The large influx of retards had gotten their way for an entire expansion and scoffed at any sort of challenge. https://youtu.be/1fORGYFR0RM
>>732288057>peak, that comes during level 30ish on your first playthrough when you've invested a lot into your character but there is still an entire world to explore (and you dont run out of quests and suffer through the 40-50 depression yet)Typing all that out for a veteran MMO player must be like saying "I have some really good heroin" to a dopefiend. You've done well describing the dragon.
>>732296337There's 10 minutes of trash before the encounter, when everyone in in their vehicles, with all their buttons available. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>732318538The Cata era LFD system was so good for it's rewards too. I got so many mounts from tanking, I had the addon that made a sound everytime it popped up, made so much gold doing that too cuz I was raid geared, just speedran that shit, keep up niggas, we're chain pulling.
>>732318827The bonus satchel thing that popped up when a role was in demand, it was mostly tank but sometimes also for healer, very rarely I saw it for DPS*
>>732307364that's just a road anonyou can drive all over undermine
>>732318538I gave up healing in Cata. Every moronic DPS was used to it being just fine to stand in fire, and so they did so, and took their time getting out, often taking 3-4 ticks instead of 0-1. In leveling blues, doing heroics with this fuckery was pure hell. I was God in ICC, no one died on my watch, and then Cata released and I was constantly OOM and my heals did nothing. So much fun.
>>732319029yeah but by the end of Cata healers were so powerful that some fights we solo healed on Heroic like Ultraxion in Dragon Soul
>"I wish we hadn't called it Warcraft. Sounds intimidating."
>>732318538Cats was the best expansion. But it’s also when they started opening the third world flood gates and players started becoming obnoxious as fuck to play with Then panda chinks put it’s in its grave
>>732287428The only people who liked wrath were people who started playing in wrath. We call them wrathbabbies. /Thread
>>732319394Is he in the Files? Someone needs to investigate the Epstein-Blizzard link
>>732319809What if he is? What happens then? That's right! Nothing
>>732319394What the fuck happened to him, man
>>732319809Oh no, grown professional men enjoyed sexually mature women on an island??? NNNOOO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, I"M GOING INSANE
>>732319619>Cats was the best expansion Anon, while the new heroics were a challenge, they were nerfed pretty early on.Then the Raid content and patch zones sucked ass. The Firelands looked like absolute shit because computers supposedly couldn't handle a giant lake of lava below the floating islands.Dragon Soul was "we ran out of time" the raid.The world rebuild sucked the soul out of everything.The War in Warcraft plot created a downward spiral of writing and Deathwing had no time gestate as a villain when standards for expansion villains were raised with Arthas.Also, I will NEVER forgive them for modeling the Volcanoth shells into the pygmy huts but then failing to model a new turtle type.Model recycling is par the course for MMOs but they got really bad in cata (I.E the whale shar's swimming animation moving the tail the wrong way because they used the Orca or something, The Vash'jir eels turning into mana orbs when the corpses reloaded, etc)
>>732320274we've all seen the pics, stupid kike
>>732320274Anon, the 18 -20 Grimes look-a-likes were stocked for the Elon Musk and Bill Gates exclusion room.
>>732318160>>732318396>>732309812Blood is just a terible for AoE-threat and dungeons.Either you have DnD, or you won't have aggro on multiple mobs.You simply can't hold aggro with IT>PS>Disease>Bloodboil.You could even use empowered runic weapon, and you still would not have aggro.But that doesn't matter in the end.Blood DK is so insanely strong in a 1v1 tanking sceneration.It is just retarted how many CDs Blood can use , to survive high pressure situation, or just straight up ignore mechanics.Bloods only weakness is AoE aggro, and maybe that it has less avoidance/block than Warrior/Pala or effective HP than Feral.But that doesn't matter if you have legit 5 more CDs you can pull and 3 of them are on 1 minute CD, or under.
>>732320179I forgot who but early PC police shit happened during Wrath development because one of the big shot's daughters ask why some of the girls were dressed the way they were. Reason why so much slutswear disappeared overnight when wrath came out.
>>732288057Wrath was the only time I did hc raid leading so I'll always love it, but there's no denying that the early Vanilla leveling has aged like fine wine. It's why I also loved SoD, for all its flaws.
ts looks so ahh how yall uncs play ts slop
>>732295604Not me. I don't have the drive to be good at the game anymore and I no longer get any joy from playing with strangers. I'm nostalgic for the times, not the game itself.
>>732324020You're thinking of legion, not Wrath.Wrath introduced big titty sylvanas, Legion covered her stomach.
>>732299829glenn rane carried really fucking hard in the art department.
>>732320179Performative retardation is a marketing strategy. Once upon a time people atleast tried to be subtle about it but 1st world got too comfortable and too many people became demoralized nihilists who think world is ending tomorrow. They just cant wait until it becomes acceptable to smear feces on camera lens while mainting eye contact just to get a reaction out of you.
Ion Holocaustus and his retarded obsession with shaving seconds off of dungeons ruined this game.Metzen being a Bosnian with a feminist daughter only drove the nail that killed it.
>ended up one of the fattest dungeons>dumb niggas still dropping it right at the startgenuinely liked it either way it was probably the same drooling retards who got the mako exploration segments canned from ME2 and on just quit videogames already
>>732308589And mount was added to Oculus when dungeon finder was released, like i said. And people at the time already had argent tournament gear with t9 and were working to t10 gear which made Oculus much easier to run at least once per day for the mount drop.
what's the meta caster for wrath? mage or shaman?
>>732328807the mako wasn't awful, but the controls for it sucked ass. If it drove as smoothly as the warthog from halo, everyone would praise the fuck out of it.
>>732287428are you telling me that riding a dragon wasn't peak wow?
>Firefighter 10man with /wpsg/ crew>Most fun I have ever had in wowFuck Yarrick and Pickles tho, fucking retards. Group2 chads rise up!
Ahh the good old days when I was still in high school. I didn't even mind Oculus that much as long as my group wasn't retarded. If anything some of the other dungeons pissed me off more, like COS where you had to constantly run back and forth for the mob packs.
>>732332257Warlock but Ele sham is solid
>>732305021>>732311512these posts reek of speaking from experience in wrath classic and not actual wrath
>>732289605vehicle combat has never and will never be good. Wrath was worse off for including so much of it.
>>732320280Nerfed Cata heroics were still head and shoulders above Wrath>cata raids badHoly fucking shitter, just say you got bodied by Halfus or Magmaw. T11 mogs Wrath, especially because healing stopped being mindless >when standards for expansion villains were raised with Arthas.LMAOArthas was a terrible villain, he does literally nothing all expansion and constantly runs away. At least when deathwing showed up he killed youWrathbabies are so embarassing
>>732304521I completely agree with this post, wrath was still good imo, I liked it less than TBC but still a lot, I thought death knight was fun and well designed at leastbut yeah it's 100% where the cracks started showing, it's significantly better than any xpac that came after but it's also what introduced the cash shop and wow tokens
>>732287428I actually liked the Oculus.
>>732288057I turned on the expansion the second they cuckolded out of having to sacrifice a character to make them be a death knight
>>732288057Dungeon finder was the thing that originally made me quit vanilla WoW. If it was just a system to automatically place you in a group on your realm thats great, but teleporting you to do the dungeon and back out again? I fucking liked trekking there and summoning people, I liked PVP with enemy players at the dungeon entrance. I liked the dungeon having a physical location in the world. It completely cucks you from your immersive experience. It fucking sucks
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>>732320280>early on.*almost instantly
>>732336425>pre-teleport summoning stoneswe used to call 'em retard rocks
>>732287613spbp this shit was an iq test subsaharan africans could pass.
>>732336425>that one lazy fuck who never wanted to at least start making his way towards the dungeon>"summ plz"
>>732306330Wintergrasp was designed to be easier to win on offense than defense so it constantly changed hands and everyone got a shot at the bosses.Tol Barad was designed to be easier to defend than to take so one faction basically owned it 90% of the time. Stupid fucking design.
