Why has it aged so fucking well?
>devs made it with passion>no faggot globohomo censorship like the Demake>not made for corporate profit >Leon is a funny wisecracking asshole >all the female characters are hot
Games don't age.
>>732296334Remake mogs
>>732296720>>732297409Girls, girls, you are both complete retards.
>>732296334I don’t know shit about fuck but they made things look very juicy and wet on Gamecube almost to a degree of a stronger console like X360 and the Halo 3 Gravemind level. Idk RE4 is weird like there are segments that really do feel like it was ahead of the times. Some of the animation and fx with certain attacks and interactions is absurd. If anybody has resources for a behind the scenes technical explanation I just never could wrap my head how good it looked on GameCube which could mangle shit that wasn’t Mario with no problem
>>732296334Good lighting, good use of camera angles even without prerendered backgrounds, very satisfying gameplay with qualities that make it iconic and instantly recognizable. You see an over the shoulder view with a laser sight and you instantly think resident evil 4. The sound design is perfect too. The chants, use of the soundtrack, the guns, kicks, Leon's grunts (he never talks during gameplay only during cutscenes and when you order Ashley around).
>>732297542GIRLS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRZrMcOKIc
>>732297907In retrospect it's just stupid that they dropped the laser sight after RE5. I thought it gave the then-current RE games a sense of identity when half of all AAA games were becoming OTS third person shooters. I use the laser sight in every modern RE that optionally includes it.
The RE9 Leon reveal got me back into marathoning most of the series and lately I've been going through RE4's Mercs for the first time. What do for the big berserking Chainsaw Man in Map 4?
>>732296334this is what's referred to as a "good game" zoomers wouldn't get it
>>732298230RE6 has it as an optional toggle instead of the crosshair but yeah.REmake 4 removing the laser sight but then taunting you with a purchasable laser attachment that only works on like 3 guns in the entire game was retarded.
>>732299861Grab your ass and clench
It was ahead of its time. On a side note, why aren't there any RE4 indie ripoffs? There's several early RE fixed camera ripoffs but you'd think it'd be relatively easy to pull it off but as far as I'm aware there aren't many games out there that try to emulate the third person tank control combat of RE4.
>>732300705Didn't know that. Gonna keep it in mind when I try RE6 again.
>>732296334>has to pause the game to swap weapons
I honestly don't know. It has no right to be so good.
>>732300917Turns out making good 3D video games is a lot harder than PS2 era devs made it look.I remember that back in the 2010s, we all thought that simply with the passage of time, indie games would go from decently passing as modern SNES games to decently passing as modern PS1 games and reality has yet to vindicate that.Also might be explained that RE4's balance is partially made possible by the deliberate movement and offensive limitations that modern audiences have made abundantly clear they will not tolerate for even 1 second. If RE4 came out today, some retard on twitter would go viral making fun of the fact that enemies slow down when they get close to you and the devs would patch the game to capitulate to the mere perception of popular sentiment and the balance honed by experienced and talented designers would simply fall apart.
is everyone ITT pretending to be retarded, RE4 is literally the worst of the series, turning it from survival horror into TPS slop with QTEs, and Leon is the most boring and bland character in the entire franchise.
>>732301552name one interesting thing about leon in re2
>>732296334It hasn't. Replayed it recently the controls are awful but it was fun overall.
>>732301552this isn't a question of whether it's the best game in the series, OP just said it aged well, which is true. it could be released today in its exact state, no graphic remaster no remake, and it would still perform highly
>>732301552Anon, the game came out over 20 years ago. You might as well bitch that you play as Raiden in MGS2 instead of Snake. Some of you no-lifer retards love repeating yourselves year after year so much that you probably already did this week.
>>732296334It manages to perfectly blend creepy old-world cult bullshit with campy over-the-top action without diminishing either.
>>732296334It hasn't. It looks like shit. It was built for small tvs with GameCubes. BUT the RE4 people nostalgically remember can be modded in with the Ultimate HD Project. The best/most essential mod there ever was.
>>732302331HD mod makes the overall color temperature colder so I don't use it. I last played the game yesterday and first played it in 2018, so direct those excuses for shitting on an old game elsewhere.
I played the Switch version a couple months ago, and it feels way easier with dual analog controls compared to putting everything on the left stick.
>>732302458>first played it in 2018Exactly. You're late to the party, you didn't have nostalgia for the game from your childhood. The gameplay is simple but great. It's actually absurd that even Dead Space 1 or 2 doesn't ever feel as fun as RE4 can be. And the Evil Within 1 doesn't even compare. But the question was how the game aged - badly. The HD Project restores the original temperature the shoddy PC port fucked up.
>>732296334>cheesy dialogue and cool characters that made it unforgettable (LEON, HEEEEELP!)>the possibility of going over the same map in different contexts>great balance of the weapons with few exeptions>impressive enemy AI, and weapon interactions (you can even shoot Krauser's grenades)>enemy literally gives you indications (when they say you are in trap, in spanish, they are blocking multiple roads)Other indications the games gives you...>when there is a red barrel, the boss is weak to napalm grenades>Krauser cutscenes always include a knife, because the developers are telling you he is weak to it>Leon turns the head to look at enemies approacing outside your FOV>>732301605The tank-like controls, the small FOV, and the stop-to-reload, is meant to give the player a feeling constraint and danger. It's part of the art.
>>732296334It's a top 3 game ever made.
>>732302776>you didn't have nostalgiaYeah so don't pretend that liking it the way it is has anything to do with nostalgia.>The HD Project restores the original temperature the shoddy PC port fucked up.Open the gamecube version right now and compare it. The current steam port with original textures is way closer than the HD project. It's cool, but an adulterated image with more of a blue look overall.
>>732302776My man you have shit taste, realize this and stop trying to speak with authority
>>732296334every third person shooter released after it is trying to copy it.also>>732296720 fpbp.
Atmosphere, soundtrack, blowing away enemies, everything is perfect.
>>732301552can't wait for uncniggers to die out
>>732296334Because Shinji Mikami was the director, and he had a lot of time to let various builds of the game cook to fine tune it. Capcom should have 100% catered to him to keep him at the company - he especially should have been given the RE5 project vs the amateur they went with.
>>732305051Why? I know you're just a silly shitposter, but we can play old and new games and be good at both. We just have higher standards because we didn't grow up with live service slop and ipads.
>>732301552Nah it's an excellently designed game. If you wanted more Survival Horror RE, you should have bought REmake, 0, Outbreak 1/2 and Haunting Grounds (literally out together from the Castle Build).Thing is? You probably didn't, and the fans at large didn't. They all flopped - so Capcom actually had to move somewhere that would make them money. I love the previously mentioned games (even 0, it was my first classic style RE) but it's inarguable that the classic style entries were being seen as stale. The issue of RE4's legacy was that the key people behind it's success, IE - Mikami and his team, soon left and were replaced by retards with RE5 and 6. Sure the combat itself improved, but everything else around those games were C or even D level in design and execution.
I had a GameCube save file with a 72 new game +. I beat mercenaries 100% and probably had some world record times on that save file. Red9 was my favorite gun.Lost it all trying to beat the AX cup on master before the power surged and corrupted my memory card. Gave up and placed everything in a box and gave it to the Mexican kid down the street whose parents were rampant alcoholics.
>>732296334It's impressive how tight and polished it feels. I tried the "Remake" and Jesus Christ it's so clunky, it feels like a "Hire this man" UE5 fan remake.
>>732296720>not made for corporate profitlmaoyou really believe in this bullshit?
>>732305865Playing the Remake with a controller is one huge reason the game feels sluggish. It's designed for keyboard input, and there's a lag in how it responds to stick movement.
>>732296334>not made for corporate profitcmon now
>>732296334Modern games are so bad they can't make something on par with the best games +20 years ago, let that sink in. Also this >>732297347
>>732296334>tank controlsNo, retard. It absolutely aged.
>>732306406There's nothing wrong with tank controls, only a mass of faggots being filtered.
>>732304982 Based. That early lake area is still pure kino-the foggy air, the eerie silence before Del Lago shows up, the water physics for its time were wild too. It really sells the isolation and danger vibe. Atmosphere in RE4 is peak comfy terror. Wish more modern games would take notes instead of shoving jump scares and over-tutorializing every corner.
Shinji Mikami has yet to direct a bad game. Even his worst games are 7/10's (like Evil Within 1)
>>732306564PN03 was bad
>>732306406>forward = forward>back = back>left = left>right = right>WTFFF??!?! HOW TF TS UNC PLAY TS SLOP THR SHTS FKD BLSHT CAP ONGD???Zoomer moment
>>732306627Nope. 7.5/10. Literally a "git gud" game. You must not like playing good games for score.
>>732306406You have tank controls in real life.Or do you strafe everywhere? If that's the case then may I ask how did a crab afford a computer?
>>732296334Why?WHY??WHY DID IT AGESO FUCKINGWELL ANON???TELL ME, I DON'T KNOW MY OWN OPINIONS AND CAN'T HEAR MY OWN FUCKING THOUGHTS ANONAS THE OP SUGGESTS, I CAN'T STOP SUCKING DICKS LONG ENOUGH TO PAY ATTENTIONGOD HOW DID THIS GAME AGE SO FUCKING WELL TELL MEEThat's you, gaylord. Get the fuck off the computer.
>>732306952I unlocked the Papillon suit like 20 years ago. The game is so unfinished it makes DMC4 look complete
>>732296334The HD mod is one of the best if not the best "author's original intent" enhancement mods to exist, and it controls flawlessly on mouse and keyboard. The game itself also has solid gameplay and mostly perfect encounter design and pacing. I'd put the remake a little higher for gameplay and the original higher for characters, writing and atmosphere because modern Capcom is fucking gay.
>>732307290Meh. I enjoyed it. I agree to disagree.
>>732307290Unfinished =/= badYou used DMC4 as example and that one was rock solid despite that.
>>732307756I will never forgive the HD mod for changing HUNK's appearance to a shittier halfassed version. Personally that's why I never took to it
I'd say RE4's three main appeals are:>you don't have to wait for the enemies to act first in order to participate in some scripted reaction slop bullshit, just go in and shoot everyone however you like>maps are split into "screens" which have their own setpieces, enemy formations and some additional gimmick which keeps the game from ever feeling repetitive>literally anything can happen if it makes for an entertaining gameplay section
>>732296334Leon was the man. He had the sauce and such a game with the ladies. Ive been training to be like himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-2V7XhFJ8g
>>732296334mogged by RE5mogged by RE4makemogged by TEW
>>732308549The textures are just too fucking good. I can't go back to vanilla.
>>732310241The PC/HD versions look too sterile and soulless. PS2 version, preferably on CRT, looks the best by far.
>>732309992...on opposite day.
>>732306406It takes a few minutes to get used to then you never even think about it
>>732310385What a contrarian retard you are
>>732310385Only if using component or SCART. Composite always looks like ass, even if you don't notice it. Try it just once with component or SCART and you'll see the difference right away.
>>732310648I have a PS2 component setup with Retrotink 4k
>>732310683My nigga.
>>732310385>PS2 versionPlay the GCN original. It looks better on a CRT than any other version (including the 360 version)
>>732310385I know you're one of those retards trying too hard to fit in by mindlessly spouting old good new bad, but the HD version literally (not metaphorically) just uses a better, modern camera to get better sampling on the original textures used for the vanilla release. It's exactly what an HD project should be and it looks amazing.
>>732310241You're wrong and so are the other retards replying to these posts. They are not just simple upscales of the existing textures, they are fanmade interpretations. The changes to HUNK's textures are especially egregious if you use a Leon replacement mod like I do. I played RE4 on consoles a million times as Leon, I played HUNK on console in mercenaries just as much. I replace Leon with HUNK using the HD mod and I immediately notice it's a totally different texture that looks like dogshit and it's not even upscaled, just some shitty "realistic" interpretation made by a brazilian. I'm not fucking blind but most of you are. It looks like trash and I'm not impressed. Sometimes you should just leave things alone.
I don't get why people say this. It's clearly aged. Zoomers won't touch it. Before they remade it, they would always scream that the controls were bad.
>>732296334because the demake is so shit it make you go>if only you knew how bad thing are
>>732296720congrats you named zero real reasons and just parroted the same fucking thing you faggots always say
>>732305915they wasted so much money they had to make Devil May Cry out of some beta build
>>732296720>not made for corporate profit
>>732296334>engaging camera angles like when the camera zooms in when aiming>looked and still looks good to this day even if played on the GC>robust inventory system that makes sense>good cut scenes>fun and campy writing>damn good and responsive gun play>interesting location>clean animations, especially the reloading>weapon upgradeIt was really a head of if time.>>732301552I shat on it 20 years ago and still shit on it to this day for the same points you've mentioned, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a damn good RE game.
>>732312870>They are not just simple upscalesNo shit, you fucking idiot. If you show complete tech illiteracy in the first line of your post, don't expect anyone to take anything you have to say seriously. Retards like you need to stop arguing about things they literally don't understand.
>>732312967>la la la im putting my fingers in my ears and enjoying my remakeslop shut up faggot
>>732306801>forward = move>back = move>left = turn>right = turn
>>732310385Fucking retard. You're that same lying faggot from last night, huh?
>>732296334Fun games are eternal and do not age.
Red 9 > Blacktail > Handgun > PunisherRiot Gun > Shotgun > Striker (ditman = cheating, the gun itself is shit)Semi-auto > RifleBroken Butterfly > Killer7TMP goatedMine thrower also goodI will accept no arguments
>>732313754It's not an HD mod then you retarded nigger faggot. It's a fanfiction "re-imagined" brazilian version of the textures that nobody should take seriously except for other brown retards like yourself.
>>732314514>doesn't know how the mod was made or what it actually is>still argues because of one detail he's hung up onShut the fuck up, you ignorant, tech illiterate faggot. Nothing you say on this topic matters because you're too stupid and uninformed to actually talk about it.>It's a fanfiction "re-imagined" brazilian version of the textures that nobody should take seriously except for other brown retards like yourself.It's not that at all, I'm not brown, and you're not white. You are a retarded monkey mindlessly shitposting about things you don't understand like every other third worlder plaguing this board.
>>732314808>thinks a re-texture is space age technology that nobody can understand except himThat's enough out of you retard
>>732296720>not made for corporate profitYou sound like the kind of faggoty fuckwit who would work for free lol
>>732315486>be objectively wrong about what a project is >get mad and double down on shitposting instead of actually educating yourselfYou're as brown as it gets. A shitskin among shitskins. It's not an upscale and it's not a re-imagining. You're wrong. There's nothing else to this conversation except for your worthless third world ignorance and shitposting. I'd say stop arguing about things you don't understand, but sadly that's very par for the course here now and you fit right in.
>>732315641>NOOOOO THIS RETEXTURE MOD IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN A RETEXTURE MOD BECAUSE I SAID SO>its just a retexture modYeah you're a genius mastermind modder bro I get it
>>732301773We don't forget, and we don't forgive. Remember that.
>>732316137>stop pointing out that I'm a complete fucking shitskin retard arguing about things I literally don't understand!The sad part is you could have spent a few minutes looking up what the mod actually was and how it was made, but you're too stubborn and stupid to do that. Enjoy living your life in a perpetual fog of brown retardation.
>>732316406>AAAAAAHH ITS NOT A RETEXTURE MOD SEE I MADE RESHADERS AND ADDED OTHER LIGHTING FX THEREFORE ITS A REAL REMASTER.... SEE MY BLEACH BLONDE LEON RETEXTURE? TRUST ME IM NOT BRAZILIAN IM WHITEOkay monkeyzilian I believe you. You are totally white, got it.
Because it was the fourth game in the series and by that point the team was polished into a keen blade. Also the people on the team were passionate nerds doing it for love and not because it was a reliable career. Videogames weren't seen as something serious yet
>>732301773Some people never grow up. Anons are still chasing that white whale no matter how many years pass and the scary thing is they don't see a problem with that
>>732316525Imagine saying this retarded dagit when you're proud of playing the faggot low resolution PS2 version with its tragic 6 enemies on screen, all because of le ebin OC DONUT steel Hunk's textures who you only play in mercenaries. They fucking rescanned many of the original source photos for the HD textures .. what a try hard autist lmao. Oh no, they had to reinterpret a couple? Big fucking whoop + you're still playing the worst version of the game outside of the Zeebo version
>>732317058>Retarded dogshitFixed, I'm angry lmao
>>732317058Anon I stopped replying to him, there's no need to get into it again with him when he's still too fucking stupid to just look up what the mod actually is. He's got an idea in his head and nothing will change that because he's the kind of stubborn shitskin monkey who can't accept that he's ill-informed.
Personally I just don't care much for the HD textures is all
>>732317197You're right man, I waste too much time on these kinds of retards. The very fact he has the gall to proudly state he'a got the fucking PS2 version connected to a retrotink like that's something to be proud of almost made me spit out my water. What a fucking retard. It's like taking a microscope and zooming in on a turd
Capcom games tend to generally hold up over the years in my opinion. I went back and played old boomer Capcom games I've seen posted by old people here all the time like Okami and Megaman Legends and Dino Crisis and I had fun with them all.
All you have to do is use the PC verison with the original textures + re4_tweaks to enable the old graphical effect that were missing and use a smaller HUD so it looks better on a high resolution screen. There, you're done.HD project is fun to play through once but the majority of the textures look awkward in regards to the polygon count of everything else.
>>732317270For me, it's the faces on done of the stills and loading screens that bug me. Either way, the mod is the only way I'll play it on PC, plus what >>732317467 mentions. RE Tweaks is the only way to restore some lighting effects lost since the initial GC release
>>732317574> on some of the stills
>>732317467>look awkward in regards to the polygon count of everything else.Shit taste. Simple geometry with nice, detailed textures (no PBR shit) looks amazing.
I miss when videogames were good. Although I could say the same for literally every form of media. Biologically we're still the same people capable of making great things but the systems we're trapped inside don't incentive talent, they incentive sales and so when things don't have to be good because the public has shit taste and doesn't know what good is then you're not going to get anything good
>>732318251Crazy that you think videogames weren't just as focused on sales back then as well. With RE1 being a success, they cranked out a fuckton all in a row. It was just as focused on profit then, as it was now. RE4 was only designed in the way it was because REmake, 0 and Outbreak 1/2 were all flops because they were pumping out REs nearly every fucking year and people were tired. They've always been products of capitalism, and while yes- the market is still just as Jewish, and more predatory forms of Vidya are out - there are always still good products being released if you know where to look and/or open your mind with other genres and publishers.
>>732318558I should have broke it down more clearly, ok yes games have always come about thanks to publishers trying to make a profit incentized by sales but where I'll disagree with you is the motivation of the guys actually making the games. Before, yes first and foremost games were made by people trying to do a job to make money obviously but in so pursuing this goal they strived to make fun games that they enjoyed for themselves. Mikami made God Hand purely for himself as he thought he was owed it for making Capcom endless money with resident evil 4 (and I doubt he got a very big cut of the pie compared to the publisher). Every year since then quality leads have left the industry, will wright, peter molynoux, many other small but important guys most people probably never heard of like the guy who did the AI for black and white and sims 3. One of the big reasons for this exodus in my view is the dictates by the publishers demanding greater and greater profits which means little creative freedom for the people actually making the games so they go somewhere else they're happier. What you're left with are the code monkeys who may like videogames but those videogames are probably whatever the mainstream shit of their childhood was like Doom 2016 and shit like that but aren't really that passionate about videogames to the extent they're inspired to go any farther than doing busy work on whatever the newest iteration of the slop they played as kids is.That's the modern AAA team of developers , that's not even counting Indian outsourcing or B teams who give less a fuck than these modern devs
