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You used a guide to beat it
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>>732300548
Pure kino. One of my favorite games of all time. You cannot beat the simple formula of a great game.
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>>732300548
Yes. You need a guide in order to know how to get to Skull Woods.
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who wrote the guide if you need it to progress? how did they?
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>>732300548
No, but I got filtered 3 times before I could beat it.
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>>732301413
He's saying nonsense. ALTTP is probably the first Zelda game that can be beaten without some kind of outside help. Zelda 1 has nonsense head scratchers and hard to find dungeons where you'd be stumbling around looking for them for ages and Zelda II has some weird puzzles with the Wizzrobe Palace and some other hard stopping points, but ALTTP is mostly straight forward for an adult. Maybe not for a kid.
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>>732301413
Journalists
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>>732300548
No but I had to ask an older kid at school about what to do with the shovel, I would had never found the ocarina otherwise
But the game was in English and I didnt know any English as a kid and I beat it on my own outside that tip, so the game cant be too bad for native speakers
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>>732300548
No. I used an action replay like every other 90's kid.
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>>732301926
Journalists not being incompetent politic-brains? Really?
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>>732300548
>You used a guide to beat it
Nope, but I will admit that I was stuck in the Ice Palace. I even called the Nintendo Hotline, but to no avail. I eventually figured it out though. If I could beat the game without a guide as a 12 year old kid, then you can do it too.

t.millennial
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>>732300548
No, i'm not a zoomnigger
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>>732302130
Oh yeah you have to hit the statue with the magic bolt rod or something. I figured it out on accident by spamming it in frustration lol.
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>>732300548
Why would I?
The game itself provides pretty much all the hints you need.
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no because I played it when I was like, 5. Got stuck at the first dark world temple for a while though because I couldn't read well enough to understand I needed more money for the monkey to open the temple initially, but didn't have any problems once I got past that
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>>732300548
No but I used save states on that moth boss with spikes everywhere.
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>>732302130
>Ice Palace
Yeah, that one's a bitch. Must be why they made it a bit simpler for the GBA port.
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>>732302193
There are three "Guide Dang It!" moments in the game. Getting to Skull Woods, Mothula, and the Ice Palace. There's also an extremely difficult path in the basement of Ganon's Tower but that's optional so it's just a red herring.
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How were you supposed to know?
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>>732302664
The grass forms an arrow.
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>>732300548
>You used a guide to beat it

I beat the game back in 1992 or whenever... and I didn't use a guide at all.
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>>732300548
No because
1) The internet didn't exist
2) Official strategy guides were notoriously bad and contained wrong information
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>>732300548
i use guides for any rpg because i don't like to replay games so i don't want to miss too many things in my single playthrough
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>>732302193
>>732302591
Actually I just remembered a fourth. In the Swamp Palace, getting to the boss room requires running behind a random waterfall that looks the same as all the other waterfalls in the room. The only clue you have that there's a room there is on the map but you would assume that the room would be accessed some other way.
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>>732302591
Ice Palace can be cheesed by going to Misery Mire first and getting the Cane of Samara to use on The Dreaded Switch near the bottom.
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>>732302818
This was pretty much the only holdup I had beating this game as a kid, Ice Palace is fucking retarded. The intended path is to go back to the start and redo the whole dungeon like three times over if you don't bosskey skip with cane or bombs.
I wish I was smart enough to figure out the latter on my own.
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>>732302781
Nintendo Power's official guide was good enough to beat it. Just Nintendo Power itself might also have been enough as it explained some of the trickier points like getting into the Misery Mire area and Ice Palace in Classified Information or that other segment they had for questions
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Only time I needed outside help was getting a secret codes for oracle of ages cause I was a dumb poor kid who could only get seasons.
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>>732300548
Bold of you to assume I have ever beaten a game from this franchise.
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>>732302904
Actually I really don't think you need to redo the whole dungeon, there are points where you have to backtrack but they give you ways to do so. But it's been too long for me to remember them exactly. There is a pisser point where if you jump down the wrong hole you miss the blue mail and have to redo a ton to get that though. I remember that being a really annoying thing.
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>>732302818

You can also cheese Blind in Thieve's Hideout by leaving as soon as you get the Titan's Mitt, which lets you also get the Magic Cape + Cane of Byrna
Fucker can't attack while you're using Byrna, and you can kill him in seconds just by running at him
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I like A Link Between Worlds more
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>>732303070
the clown villain turned me off. I much prefer Agahnim
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>>732300548
ALttP was one of the first games my dumb child brain could comprehend enough to complete to fruition without any external guide.
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>>732303013
You take this backdoor path that quickly returns you to the top after getting the boss key because your forward path is blocked by the redblue switches, you need to repeat the dungeon twice to clear, three times if you want the armor upgrade. It's honestly a downright bizarre dungeon.
And the GBA version is even more retarded because it "fixes" it by forcing you onto this loop instead of allowing any possibility for the boss key skip and removes the block drop thing entirely thereby nullifying the cane strat.
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>>732300548
No I didn't
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>>732301282
>>732302591
>Skull Woods
You just... walk in there
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>>732300548
>You used a guide to beat it
I wish I did. Just like when I beat GTA VC without cheats, I wish I had cheats when I played it the first time. I found the cheats codes for the game the same day I beat the game. lol
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Well, time to play another Z3 randomizer I guess
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>>732303320
He may mean the dungeon proper which requires an item to get into the final part. Or he means >>732302664
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How's the Zelda 3 PC port? I don't see much talk about it compared to the OOT/MM PC ports.
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>>732304063
Last I tried it there was some weird scrolling stuff due to the PC platform that wasn't present on the SNES, but I tried it soon after it came out--so it may be fixed in later versions.
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>>732303986
Pretty sure you only need a fire source to clear the whole dungeon.
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>>732304192
To destroy the statue in Skull Woods to enter the final part of the dungeon you need to shoot the centipede portion's head with the fire rod (or maybe the lantern will work?). But there isn't much affordance that that is what you are supposed to do besides just the fact that you get the fire rod in that area, so I can see someone getting stuck there.
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>>732304404
>gibdos can only be killed with fire
>curtains can be burned
>treasure is the fire rod
HMMM How do I get by this final roadblock?!
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>>732300548
I didn't beat it. 2D Zelda is extremely bad and an astroturfed in the US thing, it never mattered in its homeland.
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man zelda games used to be cool
Now they are garry's mod
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>>732304782
People don't want to admit the limit to human creativity is much less than you think. The people who demand perpetual profits don't realize you can't recycle the same conceps forever.

What game women the video game awards? It was a Playstation version of super Mario sunshine.


How many new concept 16 bit games come out? Almost none, because those concepts were already exhausted by developers at the time.
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>>732302130
Back then we also bought guides because they had awesome graphics and lore and other stuff, but yeah.

>Ice palace
I actually went to the Swamp Palace first at one time, finished it enough to get the Cane that creates blocks, and then went back to Ice Palace and just summoned a fucking block atop the switch!
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I dont remember having an issues with the ice palace
The turtle rock palace though can eat my 10yo ballsack
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>>732305398
>I actually went to the Swamp Palace first at one time, finished it enough to get the Cane that creates blocks, and then went back to Ice Palace and just summoned a fucking block atop the switch!

Not necessary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtmB82fg9RY
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No my friend beat the game in under 10 -20 minutes without a speed run qualification because he knew how to glitch the game.

Back in the day you played a game till you figure it out or invite a friend who can help out. You have no other games or entertainment so the game is an ocean instead of a puddle
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>>732305857
Your friend is shit, you can beat zelda 3 in little less than 2 minutes if you know how to glitch it.
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>>732304628
You can get through the rest of it without burning curtains (you can cut the tree roots) or burning gibdos
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>>732306270
Hey I agree that it's a challening dungeon that pushes you and confuses you with the multiple enterances but we're being a bit disingenous if we're suggesting that there are zero clues or hints towards using fire in this area to solve problems or puzzles.
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>>732306336
eeeh yeah pretty much, maybe desert palace at C because I always found it boring
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This was the one time I had to consult a guide in my first playthrough and I don't blame past me. This game teaches you to move blocks (doesn't work), fall from above (doesn't work), items (doesn't work) or come back later (not the solution) but instead you just have to know to walk through a wall decoration that has been repeated throughout said dungeon and it's the only one in the game. .
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>>732300548
Yeah I checked it out from the library.
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>>732306336
Swamp is S tier
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>>732300548
Yes. Also 2D Zelda sucks and the series started with OoT.
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>>732303070
It’s the best Zelda game and it’s totally nonlinear unlike Link to the Past
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>>732304660
Japan doesn't care about 3D Zelda either. Zelda on all fronts is more successful in the West.
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No I didn't, we didn't have the Internet or guides. I was a kid just stumbling around and doing shit like Claude playing Pokemon until something happened
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I called the nintendo hotline and the lady said I did a great job coming so far on my own before giving me a hint to progress
:)
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>>732307526
Not sure about that. Pretty sure they worship BOTW there
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>>732306336
Everyone remembers the worm boss dungeon though, so it deserves more than C
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>>732300548
Sorry for your retardation -_-
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I used a guide to beat Majora's Mask and it enhanced my enjoyment of the game.
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>>732301765
Zelda1 is small. And the hidden dungeons on the overworld are pretty obvious
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>>732300548
I’m a zoomer and I’ll admit it, I have a hard fucking time with Link to the Past and especially the 2 Oracle games. Mostly because they’re actually linear games where for the most part you have to figure out how to traverse the map and enter the next dungeon. It’s tedious and I lose patience.
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>>732301765
> Maybe not for a kid.
I beat it when I was around 7~8. Got it as birthday present and it was my first game.
That said it took me several months, not because I was struggling, but because I like exploring and fucking around. I used to do my own "quests" like going to the palace, raiding it by killing every guard and collecting money in some convoluted way while imagining an adventure in my head and then calling it a day.

To this day I cheerish those memories and consider it a better RPG experince than most JRPGs and CRPGs I've played.
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>>732300548
I didn't beat it at all. Got bored and lost interest. Like every other Zelda game.
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>>732307139
Nah, you're full of shit.
In order to make it to D2 you had to clear Aghanim's Tower
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>>732300548
Yes but i was 13 and was buying NMS each month. And it still took me ages to beat.
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>>732301765
I was able to beat Zelda 2 as a kid because my dad had made some hand drawn maps of the final palaces.
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Had to look up the ice rod because I needed it for a boss, yeah
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>>732300548
The only thing I needed help with was how to get the silver arrows right at the end. I completely missed any of the prompts to get them and couldn’t figure out how to damage Ganon
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>>732308175
You can beat the entire game without ice rod.
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>>732307998
you mean the 2nd part of Hyrule castle? The one where Aghanim very clearly goes through the middle part hinting to the player what to do next? The part with the 3 unique drape sprties on the wall as opposed to the repeated waterfall on the wall in almost every room of the swamp palace?
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>>732308335
I don't quite remember, it was a long time ago. I think I needed it for this boss.
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>>732308590
So you learned you could go through wall decorations,
>castle escape
>flippers
>agahnim's tower
but no not that one in D2, no way.
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>>732300548
Yeah the manual had a pretty good guide for the first part of the game. I'm sure I did use it just because I had it and back then you'd read through the manual just to see everything. Had a lot of soulful artwork in it, as well. That's one thing I miss for sure.
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Did anyone else get stuck on entering Dark World level 2. It took me forever to realize the light world water level was reflected. Maybe I was a dumb kid.
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>>732308335
You need it for Trinexx for sure as >>732308734
said
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>>732300548
The internet barely existed when I beat this and oot and mm and hell tww too
Plus solving puzzles is how you broaden your brain. No wonder you're a retard now if you had to pop on AOL and find a geocities url with the guide. Most people just looked up DBZ gifs for things that weren't put in America yet like broly shit and DBGT and AF (lol) and "cheat codes"
People weren't pathetic then like you op
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>>732308982
Pretty sure there's an NPC that outright tells you light world stuff affects dark world.
If anything I was disappointed there weren't more interactions like that.
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>>732301765
I beat the gba version when I was like 4 and couldn't even read
If people on this board are dumber than 4 year olds who can't read... Lol
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>>732308982
There is a triforce panel in that area that says something like changes in one world can affect the other. Not the greatest hint but given the area you are in it should make you think to explore the same area in the LW
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>>732309056
>and oot and mm and hell tww too
By the time these cameout, Gamefaqs was in full swing and you only didn't know about it because maybe you just didn't have internet yourself then. But also Prima guides were pretty big back then even if you didn't have dial up.
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How are those Satellaview Zelda games, are they worth a playthrough?
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I did have to look up how to get to the bottom of the ice temple, but in my defense I was 8
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>>732309182
Yes retard I just said internet still wasn't that big of a thing then. Internet exceptionally did not boon until around 2005. Keep defending yourself rushing to use guides and missing the point that you had to go very far out of your way to do so in 2002. Keep. Defending that low iq and high ego. Imagine not being able to solve attp without guides. You're probably a liberal.
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>>732305745
I've utilized both methods. I used what >>732305398 did a lot, but when I started messing around with the game and discovering cool little movement tricks, I started making use of the bomb jump.

One of my favorite little things to do is go to where the graveyard outside the cathedral is in the Dark World and use the mirror to swap back so I'm right in front of the gravestone you normally need the Giant's Glove to get to. You normally have to pick up the stones and dash into the gravestone, however, you can face to the left or right of it, start charging the dash, and then press up in the brief moment right before you'd normally dash.
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>>732309303
Yeah it's rather impressive to get that far into the game that young actually
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>>732309121
>gba
You didn't beat the game.
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>>732309309
>Internet exceptionally did not boon until around 2005.
You're just a late zoomer. Probably a mexican too.
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>>732309309
>Internet exceptionally did not boon until around 2005
What do you know? A nigger zoomer larping as a boomer.
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>>732309182
Only for TWW. GameFAQs and the internet were not major and deep players in 1995 and to say it was is a lie
I've been here since 2002
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>>732309421
This site was only made in 2003, anon.
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>>732300548
i wish i could say i did but, my god, i never even played it
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>>732309421
>I've been here since 2002
On 4chan that didn't come online until 2003? What is with zoomers larping as boomers. Who are you trying to impress with your stupidity?
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>>732309490
You probably should play it, it's pretty good.
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>>732300548
Yeah, but I was also like 11 when I did.
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>>732309530
>nooooooo you can't just misremeber it was da jooooooz
First meme I ever saw here was on bee of hot Asian women crushing cats to death in high heels. Since you're larping, tell me when this was anon
Next you're gonna talk about how epstein made Pol I bet
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>>732300548
i did not.
i didnt have an SNES but i played the GBA port and only asked a friend about the silver arrows i think it was. i got stuck near the end of the game for some reason and i remember the silver arrows were what i was missing.
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>>732309634
>>nooooooo you can't just misremeber it was da jooooooz
kek you lost anon, no one believes you now. Don't worry, you can get your lie right next time you larp as a boomer
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>>732300548
only needed it for the last dungeon, i didn't know you had to use the red cane to make blocks appear.
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>>732304404
This isn't 'Blast Away The Wall' dude.
This is "Holy shit a giant grotesque monster corpse. What happens if I use the dungeons' item on it?"

No one got stuck at this part.
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>>732306336
Cant argue with this except... the fucking hands and butterfly boss in S rank?!
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>using ether magic reveals the hidden bridges in the later parts of the game
What the FUCK?!
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>>732309861
this guy >>732301282 >>732302591
did
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>>732309721
Didn't answer my question
+
Admitted to using guides on baby games, so unsurprised
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>>732309925
It's a very atmospheric area and I'm a sucker for dungeons connected to the overworld, but yeah I can see the concerns with it.
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>>732309958
That's not the part I got stuck on. I got stuck on finding out you have to use the hammer on pegs in the top left corner of the map in order to access the dark world so you can get to Skull Woods. I thought those pegs were a fucking fence, it didn't cross my mind to use my hammer on it.
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>>732307675
It's called Tower of Hera you philistine.
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>>732305398
>Back then we also bought guides because they had awesome graphics and lore and other stuff, but yeah.
They were incredibly soulful.

For example, the entire official OoT Nintendo Guide is written like a story book, describing what you have to do as if recounting Link's tale. It also had a shitload of concept and promo art in it, stuff like a world map, and even some developer notes.

I spent a lot of time reading the Zora parts as a kid for some reason. I guess it was really interesting!
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>>732309971
literally don't care, you're a lying nigger lmao
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>>732310052
>Tower of Hera
It's callled L3 thank you very much.
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>>732309752(Me)
Turtle Rock, the funny thing was that i did use the cane, i just didn't hit the hitbox and also spawned it into the ground and then pushed the block, using the guide made me feel like a moron for not figuring that shit out.
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>>732300548
I got a box of Applejacks
On the back was how to find the boss room in Skull Woods
I probably would have figured it out
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>>732300548
It's pretty straight forward. I was legit stuck as a kid after you get to the wizard in hyrule castle once you get the master sword. I didn't know you had to fucking slash the curtains to open the way to the boss. Took me forever.
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>>732309105
>>732309137
Yeah I read that but it still took like an entire day for me to piece it together. At least I didn't use a guide
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>>732300548
Yeah. It was a giant book that came bundled together with my copy of the game. The most based form of guide. Beautifully illustrated too.
Encouraged 5 year old me to get better at reading. Zoomer will never experience the joy of the 90's and that makes me equally happy and sad.
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>>732302664
The wall opens up there. It has to be for a reason. Not that it matters, it's a completely optional path. I always went the other way.
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>>732300548
Only part I got stuck on was pulling the grate off the wind vane in Kakariko.
How were you supposed to know.
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>>732310958
"Try everything" I guess but yeah that's a bit of an obscure one
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You're not supposed to figure it out on your own.
You're supposed to ask your friends at school and one of them tells you.
Or they visit for a sleepover and you work together to figure it out before you have to return the game to blockbuster.
Or your dickhead friend lies about totally catching mewtwo in the cave until he brings his game to school and shows you and everyone shits themselves.

Word of mouth problemsolving is exactly how Pokemon became popular. It actually had lukewarm sales in its first couple of months in Japan until rumors about shit like Mew started circulating, and then it exploded.
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>>732300548
I didn’t. I played it blind on NSO and got through it just fine. I probably missed a bunch of shit though.
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No I was like 6 and watched my dad and brothers play a lot.
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>>732310817
What other way? The village of outcasts is blocked from the south by heavy rocks.
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>>732300548
nope, i beat it in the 4th grade on my game boy advance in 2005.

also the only zelda game ive ever managed to finish.
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>>732310117
is this the one where the cover is adult Link holding the bow?
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>>732311463
Okay zoomer
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>>732311370
The hammer accessible portal between the village and Lost Woods.
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>>732311501
im a fat stinky 32 year old man but go off
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>>732311574
You were in 4th grade when you were 11?
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>>732300548
Glad we’re having more LTTP threads lately it’s very well deserved.
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>>732311565
I haven't played in awhile. Good one.
You'd never know about it on your first run. Hookshot over the river seems like the "intended" way.
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>>732300548
There's literally a built-in guide in the game world in the form of the fortune teller. He tells you exactly what you should do not just for the main story but for all the side content and optional items as well.
Also there's a map with dungeon icons and they're fucking numbered. No one should be using a guide for this game.
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>>732311662
yep, i started school late because i was in the hospital with failing organs when i was 6

i survived to be a NEET loser though by the grace of god
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>>732311808
>You'd never know about it on your first run.
It's as simple as already knowing portals are under rocks and seeing that the next dungeon is in that section of the map. You look around that part of the light world for a portal, find a rock you can get to with your hammer, and there you go. I'd say it's more obvious than the hookshot path. Both are intended anyway. If it wasn't, they would have made it require the mitts instead of the hammer.
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>>732300548
Nope, I just figured it out.
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>>732300548
I mean, the game quite literally came with a guide and I was a child at the time, so...
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Why are rats so damn loaded in this game, what do they need that money for?
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>>732312651
It’s a metaphor iykyk
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>>732312737
What's a metaphor?
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>>732303461
quad rando soon
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>>732311808
you'd know if you did any actual exploring of the game map.

Hookshot is by far the *intended* way, based on the fact that Palace of Darkness gives you the Hammer, which unlocks the bridge for south shore/dam area, which opens Swamp Palace and gives you the Hookshot.

But with the Mirror you can use the portal above Kakariko Village (just need to go from the top side with Hammer) to get to dark world and now you have the option of Thieves Town and Skull Woods, which gets you Titan's Mitt and Fire Rod, which lets you then get into Ice Palace for the blue mail upgrade.

You can even get the flute (if you don't mind backtracking) and get access to Misery Mire, but you have to have one of the medallions first (can't remember exactly which one is vanilla)
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>>732302591
Never needed a guide, played it with my dad who also didn't use guides. We had them but never looked until we had to IF we had to, and we did not.

A Link To The Past was one of the foundational games of my childhood, alongside Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, EarthBound, and all the other greats on SNES.
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>>732301765
The dungeon design is a bit of a weird combination of the past Zelda games and future Zelda games, where there's stuff like block-pushing, signal-switching, and torch-lighting stuff but also has the pointless bullshit rooms that are just dead-ends. Link's Awakening has every room serve a purpose.
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>>732306336
you got filtered by Ice palace?
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>>732314412
I wish this game was lttp2 instead of what it is
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>>732314412
The pointless dead end rooms add to the puzzling nature of the game so you can't easily assume every room has a use.
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>>732314472
ALTTP got a sequel on the Satelleview
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>>732314471
Everyone did. It makes OoT's Water Temple look like a walk in the park.
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>>732314471
Not that much, it's just an annoyingly designed dungeon that causes you to waste time as you try to figure out the core puzzle at the bottom while other dungeons don't tend to waste as much time figuring out solutions to their puzzles.
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Zoomers have the attention span of a rock
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>>732300548
I didn't. I beat or over three weekends by renting it at the video store when I was like 10 and didn't speak English.
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>>732314635
Some zoomer streamers have done ok with ALTTP. Zelda 1-2 are more rage inducing
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>>732300548
Not a guide, a whole walkthrough during dark world
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>>732302130
>I even called the Nintendo Hotline, but to no avail.
>"Sorry, we don't how to beat our own game. That'll be $20. "
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>>732314635
I literally can't play Zelda games without a guide
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Mom was obsessed with backseat playing. She'd buy the strategy guide with the game and read it while i played
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>>732314824
Based
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>>732314702
Ok boomer
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>>732311717
This was a room for US contest winner right?
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>>732314472
It basically is though
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>>732316445
Not even close
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>>732302664
You get to Skull Woods from the teleporter from the center exit of the forest in the Light World. It's blocked by hammer pegs. From there you can easily access both thieves and skull woods. Titans mitts fully opens up most of the the dark world.

I beat AttP when I was 8 with the only word of mouth hint is that you can use bombs to blow off Helmasaur King's mask. I didn't even know you could use the hammer until years later.
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>>732300548
I did, but I was a kid and it was a physical book that came with the game.
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>>732308164
Based dad... I miss my dad bros...
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I didn't use a guide but I'm pretty sure my dad looked one up and would steer me in the right direction when I got stuck in the game.
But I played mostly platformers at that point in my life so I'm gonna assume I never read anything any of the NPCs said.
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i don't think the manual counts as a guide
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukfppyAQ2uA
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>>732317210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16jHtdCuGc
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>>732317210
Fuck if I’m gonna start a new playthrough. Too classic man.
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>>732317017
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I beat this game when I was 8 on the GBA. I didn't have internet access or a guide. The game is really basic and doesn't have any puzzles that are complicated or involved, it's usually just pushing a block, bomb a wall with a crack in it, hit a switch or defeat all the enemies in a room. All you need at the most is some basic reading comprehension. Not talking the game down or anything though, it's great.
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>>732316431
Correct. Supposedly the guy’s dad entered him in the contest and he doesn’t even play vidya. There’s a youtube vid about it somewhere.
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>>732300548
No, but I watched my bro beat it enough times growing up that I knew some of the secrets going in. Same with Z1.
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>>732302664
You DO realize that's not the only way to left side dark world, right?
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>>732300548
Nope. Beat it on the GBA as a kid and never once needed a guide.

Oot on the other hand... I used gamefaqs for the first time because I didnt realize you could make the jump in the fire wall room in fire temple.
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>>732300548
Pretty sure I used a guide but only to figure out hot to beat some bosses.
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>>732300548
Just beat the dreaded ice palace and yes the block puzzle stumped me because I didn’t see the hole where you could fall through as actually letting you fall through sigh
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I definitely, 100% used a guide to beat it the first time, but the guide was so high quality that i dont really see the issue. Its been probably 30 years since I last had that guide in my hands and I can still remember the illustrated catalogue of items with descriptions, the drawings in the intro story too. I can even remember how glossy the pages were and the smell.

There is absolutely no shame in using some of those old guides, they were crafted with a lot of passion and really genuinely added a lot to the game. pic unrelated
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>>732309248
What
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>>732300548
Only maps/fairy place locations because finding them is ass.
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>>732314472
Nah, it was good the way it was. A one off weird experience like MM was, and honestly better than ALTTP.
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>>732301282
Ask the fortune teller
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>>732311808
>You'd never know about it on your first run.
I beat ALTTP for the first time a few weeks ago and used this path, had no idea the arrow one was a thing
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>>732300672

So aces playing that on Christmas morning
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>>732314412
>Link's Awakening has every room serve a purpose.

Link's Awakening isn't talked about enough. That's an awesome Zelda game.
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I don't know what's wrong with me, I need a fucking walkthrough for everything in the overworld in Oracle of Ages
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I had to use a walkthrough for the wind map in minish cap. Fucking tedious finding all the whirligig
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>>732300548
>used a guide
Joke's on you! I never beat it without a Gameshark on the GBA one time before I was even a teen so I can't remember shit!
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>>732319979
>I don't know what's wrong with me, I need a fucking walkthrough for everything in the overworld in Oracle of Ages

Dude me too and it's always so infuriating because in almost all cases I should have been able to figure it out.
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What are some games that are genuinely hard (but not 100% impossible) without a guide?
Looking for recs.
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>>732320860
Tunic
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>>732320860
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
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>>732320895
Sure

>>732320931
I own a physical copy of this, it used to scare the shit out of me as a kid
I don't think you need a guide, just a lot of patience. It has a shitload of levels for a SNES game.
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>>732300548
i beat it blind on gba as a kid. i didn't even know how to use a computer.
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>>732321095
GBA one had some changes like making Ice Palace less fucked up and an extra warp to Turtle Rock
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I didnt, I just bumbled my way through it like a retard when I was a kid.
Spent like 2 weeks on Ocarina as well, every dungeon took me days, I just kept renting it over and over.
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>guide
>for a series designed for the elderly and children
Why are normalfags so bad at video games lmao. You're meant to explore retards.
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>>732307139
Dude, always, ALWAYS check behind waterfalls in games. That's like some of the most basic vidya knowledge.
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>>732317390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnhmOR2DnFA
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i got all the masks in majoras mask without the internet or guides, i replayed it on the 3ds and the bombers notebook spoonfeeds you everything
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>>732326071
No you did not. Majora's Mask is impossible without a guide, I refuse to believe you found the invisible man on the rock or the dead knight without a guide.
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>>732326464
MM is mostly trial and error with the sidequests. It's plenty possible. It just requires patience
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>>732326464
I didn't beat the game as a kid(I had it when I was really young maybe 5 or 6, I finished it later when I was like 9 and my brain had finally turned on)but I actually did find those things all on my own. Not saying I was smart for it or anything, I just played the game so much exploring everything I was possibly able to at any given point for years since it was one of the few games I had and eventually you just bang your head against the wall long enough to stumble into shit like that. Meanwhile I'd get stumped on completely trivial shit, it took me like a year to figure out how to get the magic beans and that I needed to plant and water them in that one corner to get through the deku palace. I also had Ocarina of Time and basically did the same thing, just fuck around in that world for years on end only occasionally making progress by pure chance and not because of any critical thinking. That kind of thing probably had some major effect on my mental development that I'm not currently aware of.
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>>732326464
It really isn't very hard to find the invisible dude, you act like using the lens of truth to look for secrets in a game with big open simple polygonal level spaces is a big ask
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>>732300548
I played it entirely blind but i went full retard at one part where you have to switch worlds on the mountain and after getting filtered for hours i caved and looked up how to progress. i had the right idea but i was standing at the wrong spot
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>>732327285

I just had the stirring of a vague memory. Is that where you materialize into the rock wall and get sent back?
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>>732326871
Also wanted to mention there was a genuine I and probably other people also felt that literally anything could happen in a game at those young ages. When you're an adult you pretty quickly get a grasp of what is and isn't possible in any given game and what to expect for pretty much it's entire runtime. When I was playing Ocarina of Time as a 6 year old it felt like there were no limitations or rules, I would throw bombs at every fucking wall in the game thinking I might find something, I would see the mountains and walls that boxed in each of the games areas and wonder if I could climb over them somehow, I thought if I kept the lens of truth turned on all the time I'd find some insane invisible city or something, and I definitely believed all that bullshit I would hear about there being a way to get the triforce too. It's not all that surprising that we found some of the most obtuse secrets on the game by pure chance given we were doing all that other shit that yielded absolutely nothing. Now as an adult you see the world for what it really is. I wish I could go back.
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>>732327361
https://youtu.be/Z6hjG6MCcZ8?si=gAN_i7p1HairetjF&t=7787
This at 2:09:47
it's the only thing i couldn't figure out by myself but it was just me being retarded.
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When I was a kid I got all the way to the final boss and just didn't care about actually finishing it. The game was bad.
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>>732317159
depends on the game
it wasn't uncommon for NA manuals to be actual guides while the original JP manual was just a manual. FF1 for example has a walkthrough until you unlock the air ship.
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I didn't beat it. I always got bored even though I had it since I was a kid on snes.
same with earthbound except I emulated it for the first time in 3rd grade on a mac os 9 and tried many more times to emulate it through the years like on my hacked psp and always got bored and dropped it
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TOTAL LANMOLA DEATH
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>>732327474
>>>732327361 (You)

Yes! Exactly! I remember being stumped by that. Like 35 years ago.

> 35 years ago
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