>play Smash>get baffled by weirdo fucking characters from very limited series getting more screentime than Mario
>>732302914What if Phineas and Ferb got in the next Smash game?
Snash's roster (ESPECIALLY ULTIMATE) was specifically designed to expand your taste in vidya.Now go play Mother 3.
>>732302914Thank you Smash for introducing me to the best RPG everNow go and play Mother 3
Smash would be better with more forgotten characters. Add Isaac, Takamaru, Harry, Lip, and Sukapon.
>>732303105It wasn't as good as 2.
>>732303201those are horrible suggestions.
>>732302914>tfw played Mother 3 all the way through with the menu patch and a translated script txt file a year before Brawl came out back when I was 10 years oldfeels good to be gangsta
>>732302914>wtf who is captain falcon?>Holy shit F-zero kicks ass
>>732302914I don't care if I know the character, Lucas has fucking sick looking a moves.
>>732303201I genuinely don’t know who Harry is and trying to look it up resulted in nothing.
>>732303258How so?
>>732303201Sukapon this dick bitch
>>732303939Isaac is boring, and have you tried playing Golden Sun recently? It's a mediocre JRPG with terrible art direction.Takamaru is a boring samurai. I'm assuming you mean Henry Hatsworth? Strange chioce.Lip is neat and represents the puzzle genre. She's cool.Sukapon could be a weird fighter and interesting as well.
>>732302914Lucas is the most memorable Smash character to me
>>732304258Something about early internet vidya spergouts is so funny to me. A lot more novel at the time.
>>732303868what the fuck, I get some of the others he listed but how do you not know harry?
>>732304258What is wrong with motherfags?t. mother fan
>>732302914>>732303105>>732303193>>732303201>>732304258Sakurai literally had zero idea Mother 3 wouldn't get localized
>>732303201Sakurai doesn't follow that logicinb4 Ice ClimbersRetro reps that were chosen after he couldn't figure how Excitebiker would work inb4 Fire EmblemHad multiple games in Japan by the time of Melee with new ones on the wayThey were also gonna be Japanese exclusive and Sakurai in a huge fan of the series
>>732303589>wtf who is captain falcon?Imagine never at least playing F-Zero X growing up. Disgusting.
>>732303868sweet jesus anon next you'll tell me that you don't even know tim
>>732303868
>>732302914This, but it was Marth in Melee. What the fuck is a Femblem?
>>732303193>Thank you Smash for introducing me to the best RPG everHow did Smash get you into Breath of Fire?
>>732302914Only means more people who become fans from getting introduced like this
>>732304256>It's a mediocre JRPG with terrible art direction.Okay so you're just shitposting. Got it.
>>732302914>None of us knew who the fuck he was when we played this as kids for the first timeI knew because I read the Dojo first thing every morning nearly 20 years ago
Was this Sakurai's best game?
>>732305254That's actually overrated The people who get into games through Smash Bros rosters are a vast minority of peopleHell, F-Zero 99 did more to get people into F-Zero than Smash Bros ever didBeing a fan of Captain Falcon's portrayal in Smash Bros doesn't necessarily mean being a fan of F-Zero or even racing games as a whole
>>732305414Which post contained the infamous "until now"?I remember people losing sleep over that and settling for Ness' exclusion.also have this Brawl era fake leak.
>>732304541>fanbase of mentally ill people fixated/projecting on mute child age charactersThey're pedophiles t. Also a Mother fan
>>732305539>settling for Ness' exclusionDid people not expect Ness to be a secret character?
>>732305539
>>732303218old good new bad
>>732303868He's just Harry!
>>732303105In the grand scheme of things, this has failed miserably, although saying it didn't enable that to some people would be very disingeneous of me to say.Bayonetta probably feels like the biggest example of this. Both her presence as the last DLC in Smash 4, and the narrative crafted around her as she was presented as, and I quote from her presentation back in December 2015>The most requested character among negociable characters, Top 5 in US, 1st in EuropeAnd yet the sales for borh Bayonetta 2 and 3 are pretty damn weak. Diving back into that presentation to see how this was worded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj6lCPAuB1I if you wanna see it again), along with Sora later down the line supposedly taking the claim for most requested fighter REALLY makes me want Nintendo to release the full ballot results already. I just wanna see the insanity to its fullest. How many votes did series veterans that missed Brawl & 4 get? What's the highest "meme" character; just how far did it go?
>>732304837>Holy shit F-zero kicks assHELLO???
>>732304575Buy a repro cart of the Fan Translation if you're so against piracy and emulation.
>>732302914I had the opposite experience as a kid. Playing Smash and realising there was more to Nintendo that Mario, Pokemon, and Kirby blew my mind. I got into emulation a year or so later and pretty much used the series in Smash as a checklist on what to play.
>>732306178When the fuck did I say that
>>732306178bot post
>>732305467Easily. I refuse to buy a Switch 2 until this game is remade. The scope of the game was too great for the 3DS
>>732305467It would be had he made use of Gyro and other control options that would work far better than his clunky idea for a touch control scheme.
Do you guys think Ness and Lucas fucked butts
>>732307829piss off fujo
Waiting for 4 was the last time /v/ was fun.
>>732302914Mother is a franchise made by a celebrity so the japs care about it because of that and not how it stands on its own, hence why they never bothered giving it to the west.
>>732305290He's sort of right. The attack effects and summons were phenomenal and the djinn were perfect but the pre-rendered sprites of the enemies are boring and bad looking.
>>732303105I bought Metroid 2 from a garage sale after playing Smash 64, just for Samus. It's always worked as advertising other franchises, to a varying extent.
>>732305414>didn't stay up till midnight for [JAPAN TIME]Couldn't be me.
>>732302914Maybe if you were a retarded normalfag that didn't actually follow new game releases
>>732302914I never felt like the additions to Smash were weird until Cloud Strife.
>>732305739Sad, but true>>732308873Snake didn't seem weird?
>>732308873Because he was the first character to never been on a Nintendo console at that point
>>732308463>>732305290>>732304256Forgot pic. Behold, look at these uninspired designs.
>>732307829become my gf fujo
>>732308873third parties unironically killed smash
>>732306178>a repro cart of the Fan TranslatioThe only thing worse than piracy is paying to pirate.
>>732302914I didn't know who he was, but I saw his struggle and understood that he was just like me>>732308792I was younger than Lucas when I first saw him. Prease understand
>>732302914Nobody knew who the fuck Ness was when Smash 64 came out either. I remember some kid in my class telling me the unlock requirements for Ness and that "you unlock a kid with a baseball bat." I honestly thought at first he was just "that kid" and it was probably completely made up bullshit.
>>732309118I'll never understand this mindset>unironicallyyou don't know what that means
>>732304256The thing that really struck me about Golden Sun on replay was the dialogue. Just stupid pointless conversations even in these story critical cutscenes that waste time and meander. The characters suck, and they have nothing worthwhile to say.
>>732309504>You could mind read people>the monologues were even worse.
>>732309639Very realistic desu
>>732305467Squandered by being a 3DS game. Not sure why Nintendo doesn’t make a new Kid Icarus when this game was such a stellar reboot in concept
>>732309668They didn't once have the balls to include someone thinking something along the lines of "Oh is that Mia? she's so cute"
>>732303105I mean it sort of worked since that's how I got into Bayonetta and then cuhrazy vidya like DMC.
>>732305467Definitely. I originally bought a 3DS for Gen 6 but it shit the bed so hard I was going to sell it until I found Uprising.I'm still mad Nintendo has done nothing with it considering it sold the same as Awakening and FE has had multiple games ever since.
>>732304325>early internet>2007
>>732311035It was relatively early Internet. Social media websites were predominantly message boards and early Youtube. Facebook wouldn't take off until a year later and Twitter was basically nonexistent. 2000s Internet had more in common with 90s internet than with 2010s Internet.
>>732302914smash and gay "collectors" are the reason so many retards claim they love earthbound but yet have never played or finished it.
>>732302914its blud from undertale
>>732308873nobody asked
>>732304541Just like Undertale fans, they are homosexual pedophiles and furries
>>732302914>See blonde SNES>Think "oh, this must be SNES from Mother 3 which is Japan exclusive"Some of you guys just have zero fucking knowledge of games. Do you guys remember when they revealed Simon Belmont I'm Castlevania and retards were like "who the fuck is that??". Same with Terry. A bunch of retards were asking why does Ken from Street Fighter look weird.
>>732308938Snake was on the Gamecube with the Twin Snakes so he felt at home. Cloud was when I knew that HAL and Nintendo were not digging in the barrel deep enough. They were essentially scraping the honey out of the jar in SSBB and with SSB4, you could tell, there were no interesting Nintendo bits of lore or history in the game.
>>732308873Ultimate honestly has the worst DLC and new comers and I hate it. Even the Nintendo picks were fucking garbage.
>>732311972Ultimate felt like an OW2 patch for Smash Wii U.
>>7323092643rd parties are the exception, not the rule. Too many people thinking that 3rd parties are the norm now go out their way to call Nintendo characters that aren't promoting a game scraping the bottom of the barrel. That's fucking stupid to think that wanting Nintendo characters in a Nintendo crossover is bad in anyway. King K. Rool should have told you (And Nintendo for that matter) that relevancy doesn't mean shit if the character is popular enough. And in the case of K. Rool, his popularity resulted in him coming back to the DK franchise as the definitive villain, whether Nintendo liked it or not, the Kutthroats made them bend the knee.And even if they aren't getting a game, still acknowledging a franchise with a playable character and stage is good for business, just to show that fan support is still strong to ensure that a fanbase's character can still show up. Assist Trophies and still images aren't the way to do it, neither is a costume.
>>732302914My main, too bad hes garbo
>>732312492>Felt like a patch>But removed Smash Run and 3D modeled trophies
>>732313092Perfectly mimics Overwatch 2
>>732304008Lol good one
>>732311946Twin Snakes is kind of cheating. It's like claiming that GTA is a Nintendo-friendly series because of Chinatown Wars.
>>732314653Metal Gear was on the NES.
>>732314653I would love to see CJ or Niko in Smash.
>>732304325I just saw a thread made a zoomer bitching that his favorite alt-rights movie reviewers liked that Markplier guy movie, he is literally posting longtexts and screencaps of everything Mark ever said over the decades that made him angry and it is obvious that he had all of that already saved on his PCThis type of people still exists
>>732315885LMAOI hope these people never disappear
>>732305467Melee is his only good game
Nobody knew who Ness was when the original came out either
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>>732302914Mario actually had a lot of screentime in Subspace Emissary, the issue is that it really achieves nothing.
>>732316305Have you played any Kirby game?
>>732311618>have never played or finished itEmulationLiterally the driving force for people to play Earthbound prior to the Virtual Console was emulation
>>732316707Still remember Chuggaconroy and ClanoftheGrayWolf introducing me to Earthbound. Still shocked Emile and Roo were sex pests.
>>732302914If Nintendo wasn't fucking retarded, they could have replaced that bitch boy with someone relevant like this.
>>732317238Kameo > Krystal
>>732317635The Djinn system was really cool though, despite being being pretty easy to abuse.
>>732317524Very true. Imagine Kameo's final smash just being her and Kalus fucking shit up with that energy shield the two made on a whim with all of the elemental warriors.
>>732314738Metal Gear NES is so far removed from the Snake of MGS that they're practically different franchises. Defending Cloud as being there "from Final Fantasy" is the same way. And as for DS spin-offs making things "qualify" that's probably how Sora got in, too.
>>732317238Kill yourself Fygoon
>>732317635I fooled around with Golden Sun on an emulator, it felt like it was an attempt to make the GBA look more powerful than it actually was. GBA was released in a time when video games still used "bits" to advertise power. They said the GBA was 32-bit, so dumb kids like me thought it was basically a PlayStation in your pocket.
>>732302914>think his name is supposed to be loo-kiss because of the announcer>is actually loo-kuh, named after a character from a disturbing novel that isn't much like m3>it also sounds like ryu (リュカ / リュウ) when pronounced in japanese, which means dragon and dragons are prominent in m3 the english can't even come close to the original meaning behind lucas' / リュカの name.
>>732318243>And as for DS spin-offs making things "qualify" that's probably how Sora got in, too.Or because of the cloud ports that got announced during that same fucking stream. Either one I guess.
>>732316896>EmileInnocent
>>732303201thing is, smash is usually used as promotional material for recent/upcoming games. the fighter ballot being the exception where they just added requested characters.>>732303218i partially agree but m3 also has less jank and also gave us a run button. it's a shame about the beginning and cut content/unrealized potential from being a downgrade from m64.>>732303491what was your reaction to lucas in smash?
>>732318795Emile is an innocent sex pest, Roo is super fucked if he really was peeping bathrooms.
>>732304258Wasn't Sakurai considering getting rid of Ness and only having Lucas since he was the latest game's protagonist at one point? This guy's fears weren't entirely unfounded if so. Shit man, I'm worried Villager won't make it to the next game since he's a relic of when Animal Crossing was still represented by humans because there was no one corporate mascot like Isabelle yet.
>>732318503>better or worse Nintendo is mostly all out of major hitsThey're not. By association of being in Smash, they become major hits.>Basically for Nintendo characters they're finished by sheer majority.Not even. You look at any Nintendo franchise that's already repped and you can add a minimum of four characters. Now look at all the franchise that don't have a character. They got plenty to add, minimum three characters. Another problem with 3rd parties is a lot of people only seem to want them for 'hype' reasons, which is why people like you say Nintendo is out of major characters or scraping the bottom of the barrel, when that's far from the truth. Pic related was 2014, and it shows how there's still plenty of work on the Nintendo side to be done.
>>732305414do you agree with lucas being timid in nature? they went with that for smash but he's only timid at the very beginning of mother 3.
>>732307829ionia did
>>732319108Malo from the Pushmo series would unironically be a kino choice of newcomer
>>732318503i really wish they'd add more villains like hades. porky too.
>>732303193I don't remember any Baldur's Gate 2 characters in bby's first fighting game.
what would you think of lloyd Irving being added?
>>732319846Gutter tier
>>732303218That's okay, 2 wasn't as good as 1.
>>732319086for melee, yea. but m64 was canceled so lucas technically didn't exist. so sakurai had to go back to using ness in melee.>>732319924i mean, i think sakurai is still a good director. he got us "everybody is here," and he gets his projects finished on time. the worst additions like corrin were pushed my nintendo.but yeah, i wish he would add more villains. and i agree with you that ganondorf should be reworked. or maybe we could get pig ganon.and why was your post deleted?
was it a missed opportunity not to add porky during the year of the pig?>porky was the only brawl boss who is an actual character to not return in some way>only mention of porky is with the asc spirit. and technically it's not even a porky mention because they used the enpty asc portrait>year of the pig>villains are underrepresented>porky could make an interesting fighter
>>732302914I actually knew about Mother 3 because I got interested in (and first learned about) EB and the Mother series thanks to Smash 64. Melee introduced me to FE, but I was probably one of less than 100 people who saw GW and was excited because I loved the Game and Watch Gallery games.
>>732319924i'm surprised it took him that long because bowser was the most requested in a smash poll for requested fighters after smash 64 came out.kinda funny that bowser ended up sucking in melee though.
>>732320139>maybe we could get pig ganon.The other two primary characters have two forms, why not the big bad? Make him somewhat cartoonish like his appearances in Echoes of Wisdom
>>732320404i liked the g&w gallery games too. g&w was one of my most played characters right after kirby and yoshi.
>>732319108>By association of being in Smash, they become major hitsThat's not how it works
>>732319108Codename STEAM really deserves another shot. Better hardware to male the cool artstyle better realized, some gameplay refinesments, a bit more speed to the game and length, and I think people will love it.
>>732302914i miss my childhood. when I'd wake up on weekends, and Smash would launch during my breakfast. this kino time…
>>732303201I'm holding out for Bayou Billy and Daydreamin' Davey.
>>732320569Yes it does. K. Rool after all the shit he got from 2015 up to his reveal, suddenly had a lot of people now supporting him and clamoring that he was always a big deal instead of being an irrelevant has-been that was an easy punching bag for the secondary Smashfags who came in because of the 3rd party faggotry. Ridley to a lesser extent too. Rool shows that you can simply add a character without promoting a game and they'll become a hit. He's damn near in every trailer after his own, someone clearly liked him enough to showcase him as much as possible.Look at this image. 2016, he was a laughingstock. 2018, he's standing front and center with his Nintendo alumni, fitting in like a glove. They can do the same for all the other never-evers too. Morrigan from Vampire isn't getting a new game anytime soon. But for damn sure she's still making appearances. The same can apply for Isaac, Lip, Takamaru and you're not ready for this, but Fox, Falcon and Ness too. But you'd be slaughtered if you try to cut those three.But people are okay with cutting Jigglypuff, despite still appearing in Pokemon and still having a lot of popularity before Smash even came into the equation.
>>732302914yeah, it got me.Lucas was how I learned my favorite childhood game wasn't really called earthbound.
>>732321076>someone clearly liked him enough to showcase him as much as possibleSo trve bro
>>732321076Ice Climbers
>>732321076Cutting Captain Falcon would straight up make me not buy the next Smash.Everyone else you can do whatever with, but that's the only non-negotiable one for me.
>>732321363One-off game, and were it not for the shitty 3DS version, they'd have been in For. Though, if someone wanted to try a reboot on par with Uprising, I wouldn't be against it. I'm not asking for it, but I wouldn't be against it.
>>732321076>Yes it does.Fire Emblem got in Smash starting with Melee and the series was STILL seeing declining sales until Awakening came outFire Emblem wasn't saved by Smash BrosAwakening was what saved Fire Emblem (though depending on you ask, it might have been better dead)
>>732321495Now you're getting it. Smash can easily be the game where dormant IP's still get a chance to shine. Golden Sun, Panepon, Stafy, you name it, Smash is the one place where they can get a good showcase of what their IP's offered, even if they don't come back. Assist Trophies, spirits and costumes are not the way to go.>>732321784>Awakening was what saved Fire EmblemAnd Smash made sure to represent that game all the way to 2018. Even with declining sales, Smash was still giving the franchise reps. Some series would kill to have eight reps, even if three of those reps are clones of each other.
>>732303201except for Isaac all of those were literally who tier even in Melee's time
>>732321076Olimar got in Brawl and Pikmin didn't become a smash success until Pikmin 4Captain Falcon was there from the start and F-Zero still died with diminishing returns in spite of Nintendo's big push for it as a franchiseAlso, didn't that new Fatal Fury game underperform? >>732321910>And Smash made sure to represent that gameYou're not getting itSmash Bros didn't make Fire Emblem a hit, Fire Emblem made Fire Emblem a hit
>>732302914none of my friends had played or even knew about mother 3 so i was the only one who played as him
>>732322024Pikmin was always a pet project for Miyamoto, not a franchise that Nintendo was pushing consoles for.Falcon again goes back to my initial point, even if F-Zero remains dormant, Falcon still has his grandfather status with Smash.>Fatal FuryI'm not worried about 3rd parties, even the ones that tanked and flopped will still get a better reaction if they're requested vs. an actual Nintendo character. That's how shitty this whole thing has gotten.>Smash Bros didn't make Fire Emblem a hit, Fire Emblem made Fire Emblem a hitFire Emblem was going to get cut completely from Melee. If that happened, Fire Emblem may not have survived, IE Awakening's sales in America and I don't have source on this, just theorizing - wouldn't have been the deciding factor in FE being allowed to continue. You can also thank Smash for generating interest in FE by keeping those cool sword guys in NTSC and PAL versions of Melee.
>>732322367> If that happened, Fire Emblem may not have survivedFire Emblem got localized because of Advance Wars being successful in the West > You can also thank Smash for generating interest in FE by keeping those cool sword guys in NTSC and PAL versions of Melee.Mate, there were MULTIPLE Fire Emblem games between Melee and AwakeningBrawl didn't save Fire Emblem when Fire Emblem games still struggled after Brawl came out
>>732305467Yeah, if they don't do a sequel or remake on the console with mouse controls theyre retarded since the one problem this game has is it fucks up your hands
If Smash Bros makes every franchise that touches it a major hit, why the fuck does Metroid still attract tension whenever sales info drops?Shouldn't people just assume every new game is gonna be a success solely because Samus is a guarantee in a franchise that easily clears through millions each installment?If Smash Bros makes every character a major hit, why do Fire Emblem fans tend to not care about Roy?
>>732322468>Fire Emblem got localized because of Advance Wars being successful in the WestYet Advance Wars didn't get a rep. Not saying this as an argument, just a statement. Should have happened by now.>Mate, there were MULTIPLE Fire Emblem games between Melee and AwakeningI am aware. FE was still sort of niche (still is, waifufaggotry be damned), so the sales weren't really stellar from the start. But I still stand on what I said, not cutting Marth and Roy saved FE, sales be damned. And even then, they'd be in the situation that Falcon and Fox are in, another franchise that's being archived by Nintendo's crossover franchise.
>>732322917>Should have happened by now.Japan's relationship with Advance Wars is....weirdWe're talking about limited releases, delayed releases, and outright in some cases not even coming out.Sakurai has made it clear that he wants everyone globally to play the games the characters are from (Lucas was a mistake) and especially in the case of Japanese gamers since Ultimate went as far as to have Eternal Darkness represented (which came out in Japan) but not Geist or Startropics which did not> another franchise that's being archived by Nintendo's crossover franchise.Yeah and when other games' do it, they're called IP graveyards.
>>732318356Schizo alert.
>>732305467>3D mode 7+>ESRB 10+Well?
>>732303201>Add Isaac, Takamaruwould be cool>Harry, Lip, and Sukapon.don't care
>>732305467nah I still chalk it up to Meteos
>>732319108They should bring back my nigga Chibi-Robo, not only to Smash, revive him
>>732319108not really, Fire Emblem for instance wasn't saved by Smash. It took Awakening to do that.
>>732324637You know Skip is still dead right?
>>732305467Is it just me or the reason Kid Icarus is a failed brand is because it uses Greek Mythology? And before you say God of War or Hades you got to remember both of these gaming properties use edgy violence to satisfy normies. But Greek Mythology isn't popular anymore and same to Egyptian stuff while we're at it.Don't see a world where Kid Icarus is a successful brand for Nintendo. Its also one of the few Nintendo properties that uses public domain material go figure.
>>732322367>>732322024for reference, Fatal Fury CotW was not even a thing when Terry got in Smash - that's just SNK putting their prestige character
>>732303218It's not as replayable as Earthbound, but it's worth experiencing at least once.
>>732303868Bro doesn't recognize Pitfall Harry
>>732324750Doesn’t Nintendo own the rights? How did they put in on the NSO if they don’t?
>>732319171They made him smile more often after Brawl.
>>732304258Heroes always arrive late
>>732316616The best Kirby game was Amazing Mirror which Sakurai didn't make
>>732325051Owning an IP doesn't necessarily mean having a developer that's willing, competent, and available to make more of it
>>732303491Who groomed you
>>732325480Who says that Skip has to be the ones to develop it?
>>732325745How many developers can you name that can inherit Chibi Robo?Anon, it's never that simpleIt took over a decade for 2D Metroid to come back for a reason
>>732302914I was a school boy when Brawl came out and I recognized Lucas because I wasn't a fucking casual. I went back and played all classics on emulator as well as old DOS games because I wanted to see what all the hype was about. I knew a lot of people like that back in the day too.Gamers these days don't fucking bother learning shit. Even if all your cared about as internet street cred back then, you'd do your homework or else anonymous 4chan weirdos would embarrass you and tell you to lurk moar for not knowing the basics.
>>732325864I'll say it again, who says that Skip has to be the ones to develop it?>MetroidMetroid isn't really a priority for Nintendo, but Dread took way less time to be announced, revealed and released compared to Prime 4. And on that note, Retro shouldn't have been roped into that one, but the faggots who cried about Tropical Freeze insisted on Prime 4 being a thing and Retro developing it. Hope they're enjoying it.
I hate Lucas. Ness annoys me too but there's just something about Lucas. The timing of his up smash is specifically designed to fuck with me. And he and Ness always manage to get the damn smash ball.PK STAAAAAR STOOOOOOOORM
>>732325003He meant Lieutenant Harrier De Bois, anon. We're going to help him find his gun.
>>732326015>I'll say it again, who says that Skip has to be the ones to develop it?Nobody but the point is that Chibi Robo coming back is gonna take more than Smash Bros to revive him.Banjo-Kazooie got in Ultimate and still hasn't received a new gameIce Climbers never got a rebootKid Icarus Uprising wasn't even originally gonna be a Kid Icarus game to begin withChibi-Robo could get in Smash Bros and his series could still be dead because the factors that determine a new game being made are independent from exposure in Smash Bros
>>732302914If you haven't played their game you can't play them in smash, that's the rule
>>732318825Not him but I did the same, played it in Japanese shittily then again when fan translated. When I saw Lucas I felt so cringe cool, like oh shiiit Lucas, not everyone will know who that is but I do, wheeeeeeeSo yeah it was fun
>>732326324opinion on m3 both before the fan translation and after it?
>>732326202>Banjo-Kazooie got in Ultimate and still hasn't received a new gameBK getting in Smash wasn't supposed to lead into a new game, it was fulfilling the dream of BK getting in Smash Bros. That was it. I repeat, Banjo-Kazooie can easily coast in Smash for the rest of their days assuming they return in future installments.>Ice Climbers never got a rebootThey don't need one, nor are people asking for one.>Chibi-Robo could get in Smash Bros and his series could still be dead because the factors that determine a new game being made are independent from exposure in Smash BrosAnd that is fine. This is all just another way of saying >These characters aren't relevant and promoting a new gameAnd I'm sick of that determining who gets in Smash and who gets stuck in the corner as an assist, png or costume. A character coming in Smash Bros. doesn't have to transcribe to a new game, they can simply be added BECAUSE. That's fine. Just add them, why not? Damn promoting a game or relevancy, just add them in.Best case scenario, >>732312634. Worst case scenario, they simply appear in Smash Bros. as a playable fighter and that's all. And that's fine too.
>>732326551> A character coming in Smash Bros. doesn't have to transcribe to a new game, they can simply be added BECAUSE. Alright, I get thatI misunderstood what you meant and thought you were saying Chibi-Robo should get in Smash Bros to bring back his seriesI totally get you and I have my fair share of desired NEVER EVERS who fall under the same boat
>>732326525Fan translation kept the spirit. Tomato or whoever the main translator is called is one of the few translators in the scene who isn't a retard autist so he can actually grasp the vibe of both the text and the subtext. Felt like pretty much the same game, I was impressed.
>>732325159they probably realized their mistake of making him too cowardly in brawl when it made no sense for him to be that way. when brawl starts lucas already has psychic powers. why is he afraid to use them? he doesn't get them until after becoming more courageous in mother 3.but he doesn't necessarily have to be all smiles either in smash. he has a wide array of emotions in mother 3.the general look he had in brawl of keeping a straight face wasn't necessarily bad. it was fine. just the cowardly nature didn't fit.
I made up my own headcanons for any characters I didn’t know of in Melee. Reading trophies is for homos.>Captain Falcon is a arrogant blowhard could be deadly if he trained himself properly but is a joke right now>Samus is an emotionless robot, considering its long grab range that has a chain it was a police robot>Roy is the main character of Fire Emblem>Marth is Roy’s Vegeta>Ness is some kind of mutant>no one played The Ice Climbers at my house so they were background characters>Game & Watch was a Judge Doom-like villain who uses his toon powers to cause havoc. May or may not have also been the lost third Mario Brother.
>>732302914Young me was very confused by pit and ice climbers
>>732326806i think i thought captain falcon was a super hero.i don't really remember what/who i used to think ness was before i discovered earthbound. some kid who likes baseball that has powers.i also never put together that ness and captain falcon had dedicated stages when i was young.roy/marth were "guys from that game series my older siblings like and they have cool music on the zelda stage".i liked g&w games.i knew the ice climbers because we had an nes.i knew who samus was because my siblings played metroid prime.
>>732302914it was the same for kids when super smash bros for 64 came out. my friends and I thought it was the kid from pokemon red/blue and instead of "PK thunder" and "PK fire" we thought he was saying "Pika thunder" and "Pika fire" even though "Pika fire" makes no fucking sense.
>>732327486for Ness I mean
>>732326806my friend was like roy is poor and marth is rich
>>732326324i used to feel cringe cool after discovering mother 3 and being the only i know with knowledge of it, and it "being one of the dankest, saddest, inappropriate children's games". and a nintendo game at that. they had a really family friendly image at that time.i still can't believe itoi put a child rape joke in it that suggestive. like pokemon b/w's hiker was the most suggestive thing in a nintendo game (technically gamefreak but they're closely connected to nintendo) i knew about at the time and it was also censored. later learning about captain rainbow also put it into perspective for me that: some nintendo devs just love putting adult jokes in children's games.nintendo was "family friendly" but here you have mother 3 with nazi pig men doing hitler salutes, a child rape joke, "sexy" mer men oxygen machines, a joke about the pigmask being gay for liking said machines, porky having a "sexy" shirtless centaur man oxygen machine, child suicide, an apocalypse, a family being torn apart in the first hour, a sense of pessimism that things will probably just get ruined again even after you get the world recreated, child abandonment, having most people get sucked into porky's utopia, the mom drago crying and then dying even after seeing it would leave the baby drago motherless too, okama, animal abuse, drug trips, animal and child experimentation and chimera-zation, a child soldier who was brainwashed, etc.
>>732327693Itoi has been somewhat of a Japan legend before he even made games. He was a PR guy that had a lot of success with various ad campaigns. He was able to come into games big dick swinging basically, so Nintendo just shut the fuck up and let him do what he wanted. Also Nintendo seriously pussified itself in the last 10 years, so he was on the tail end of the big N allowing mature stuff
>>732308951>He didn't play Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
>>732327693>dankesti meant *darkest. but it feels like 2010s again now. jet fuel can't melt dank memes and all that.>>732327858miyamoto told him no at first so itoi cried on his way home. but i think after m1's success itoi was probably allowed a lot more freedom. mother seemed loved in-house. and miyamoto really wanted itoi to finish m3 after it got canned on the 64dd.
this interview was also the funniest thing to me back then. it still is actually... i read it every time i need to cheer myself up.
>>732318243Ghost Babel was a GBC exclusive
>>732328286Itoi not giving a fuck is what makes the games so great
>>732303105Why does Smash only want me to play Fire Emblem
>>732305047I liked Roy just because he was cool, used fire in his sword attacks, and had a move that could kill in one hit. To me, Marth was just a faggy Roy.
>>732327589Hell yeah I did think that too. >>732327103Nintendo got a fuckin 1-2 punch on my child ass. Melee cutscenes looked so dramatic for Ice Climbers I got it day one on the Wii Shop. I still like Ice Climber though.
I didn't know who link was in brawlI thought he was an elf like from lord of the rings which is why I thought he was cool I grew up with an n64
I used to think Roy was saying "TONY HAWK!"
>>732305843>What's the highest "meme" characterGeno.
>>732329173I grew up with an N64 and loved Link. But I did and continue to pronounce Hyrule and Hylia like "hih-rool" and "hih-lee-ah"I think it sounds cooler than the pun.
>>732329335Bayonetta was only five years old when she was added to Smash as a full character. Sans was about four years old when he was "added" as a Mii costume.
How was Nintendo okay with Sakurai spoiling Mother 3 less than two years after it came out?
>>732329617That's how sure they were that it would never see an official English release.
>>732329774Fuck it gonna play Acid.
>>732329617that only spoiled hinawa's death (which happens within the first hour) and claus fighting lucas (and it's obvuous claus is the masked man in m3) and porky returning (but it's kinda obvious he's the leader of the nazi pig army. who else could it be?)
>>732318243https://nintendoeverything.com/telltales-poker-night-at-the-inventory-heading-to-nintendo-switch/HE'S IN! Heavy: NO!
>>732302914>play Smash>weirdo fucking characters from very limited series get more screentime than Mariobased
>>732302914>be some random copywriter>get sick and play dragon quest one day>it makes you want to make a video game of your own>release 2 successful games>try to make a third one but the development is so bad you cancel it>play the gba and it makes you want to continue working on the third game>finally release it only in japan after 10 years and it's polarizing>get your characters immortalized in the biggest video game crossover ever, including the protag from the polarizing jp only game>leave video game development forever>still get to be remembered forever for making one of the best game series and having your "wtf" characters in smashbased itoi
>>732332242forgot:>do it all without even writing a single line of code because you don't know how to use a computer
>>732311035>Gramps...
