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Leave Prime 5 to him

how did it sell after people had actually played it?

>>732306843
>Fastest selling Metroid game
Retard, Dread sold far better and faster (and is actually a good game)

One of Nintendo's most expensive games ever and selling under 2 million sounds pretty bad

>>732306949
Haven't played the game but I thought he was supposed to be the bad guy of this one?

>>732307336
Yes he is and he’ll be back for more

>>732307246
Nintendo has is up through December 31. Metroid Prime 4 launched at the start of December. It sold over 1M in under a month, likely 1.5M+

>>732307246
The game was fucked from the outset due to this regardless of its quality. It's Metroid, it was never selling more than like 4 million tops, assuming it was good (it wasn't). The whole project was just a massive sunk cost for Nintendo.

>>732306843
>My uncle at Nintendo told me to post this anecdote to counter the news it didn't make a million.

>>732307146
It's hard to make a proper comparison since the exact number for Prime 4 isn't known and Dread's only comparable official data is 2.74 M in almost three months vs Prime 4's "over 1 M and less than 2" in almost one month. The only conclusion to be made is that OP is a faggot.

>switch and switch 2 versions combined are struggling to reach 1 million
>in a series that struggles to crack 3 million regularly
prime is dead huh?

>my friends, friend says i-it actually d-did sell 1 million!!
Grim.

>>732308018
>in a series that struggles to crack 3 million regularly
???
Prime 1 is 2.8m
Prime 2 is 1.2m
Prime 3 is 1.4m

>>732307457
I'm pretty sure the only reason this came out is because they had announced it with much fanfare and didn't know who to tell people it was cancelled.

>>732308280
This makes things worse for 4.it'll have zero legs and struggle to reach prime 1 on two consoles and sell on par with the other 2.

>>732306843
>board gets spammed when MP4 sells "bad" threads
>Turns out it's not as bad as people said
>crickets

>>732306843
Hopefully Nintendo realizes that the development of the game was just cursed and will still see Prime as worth making. Bonus points if they realize that with a few tweaks they can make a much more appealing game.

>>732306843
lmao told you all it sold over a million. goddamn this game really brings out the derangement in people for some reason.

>160m consoles + 15m
>only 1m

DreamcastGuy said it likely didn’t even hit 1 mil because they left it out of the quarterly report

130m install base with 800k sales. Wow, what the fuck

>>732307246
There's actually nothing that supports this, but one of Nintendo's most expensive games ever is potentially something like the lower end of 50 mil.
Back to the main point the guy who pushed the 6 mil break even didn't even factor in that first party games are significantly more profitable than third party games because they don't have to pay a licensing fee and everything else like the game carts are sold to themselves at cost. Another aside is that Nintendo games don't have an allocated marketing budget, the console is marketed along with the games, so the marketing budget itself is always rolled into Nintendo's general marketing budget.
Another strange facet is why would Nintendo include the time the game spent at Bamco Singapore? that's going to be a write-off and not factored into the games budget under Retro Studios.
at just above 1 mil the game may have already broken even, since even though physical games at $60 average $40 take for the publisher per game, digital sales on your own platform are pretty much entirely just profit, and the Switch 2 version is $70.

>>732311749
This series has always been a niche, potentially Metroid Prime 4 may have already outsold Metroid Prime remastered and Metroid Prime echoes, the series has historical sales that are that low.

>>732311149
The mixed reviews say that they probably do, hopefully the rumors of back to back Metroid Primes are true and the second one is being retooled to avoid the pitfalls of MP4

>>732310923
Metroid Prime 4 had the most significant hate campaign against a game that didn't deserve it that I had seen in years.

>>732311694
>>732311749
Most series have an upper limit to what they sell, regardless of how big the install base is. Metroid is one of those franchises.

>>732310770
that's a given

>>732306843
>forgot this even released
Damn. Tendies just seemingly lost interest in discussing it which in turn soured the shitposters as they stopped getting reactions.
Apathy truly is the death of an existence.

Lord frogmire and synthetic man said it was shit so I believe them

this is final fantasy xvi

death of a franchise

get over it

I shouldn't even have sold 1.

>>732307336
He's meant to be a multi-game thing like Dark Samus for the original trilogy

>>732306843
in only a month it has sold half of Prime 3 in its life time, confirmed a better game

>>732312372
It definitely has major issues and I don't blame people for being disappointed after the wait but people trying to act like it's a colossal flop or even as bad as Other M are just trying to stir shit.

>>732313224
awful comparison. FF16 was the last straw in a franchise spiraling out of control. MP4 has certainly had a mixed reception, but Metroid as a whole is nowhere near the walking corpse state that FF is in.

>>732307146
Fastest selling Metroid Prime game that released in the year 2025 ever!

>>732312372
Oh it very much deserved the hate. It deserves even more hate actually given how awful the level design is and how intrusive the npcs actually are. Fuck those npcs and fuck every single one of you defending liars who keep trying to say it's not as bad as claimed by
>haters

>>732313419
>Metroid as a whole is nowhere near the walking corpse state that FF is in.
pfffffft

>>732307146
Proof? All I see us that dread sold around 850k in the US in one month. Being similar to dread is a good thing for prime 4. I guess it'll all depend on whether or not the game has legs though.

>>732313618
Metroid was dead and then revived with dread/prime remastered. That's not nearly the same as a franchise that everyone hates but lives on by branding alone. The two franchises are really incomparible.

>>732312372
this is true, it started months before the game even came out, it's like what in the fuck

>>732306843
Not playing your marvel slop. Tell me when we get a glimpse of zero suit samus with her fat titties out while she suits up.

>>732313720
rebirth was a better game than dread, take nintendo's dick out of your mouth before replying next time

>>732306843
>Stephen Totilo was the fag who broke the Nintendo vs. Yuzu lawsuit story back in 2024
>Now he's out here glazing the $100 Virtual Boy headset and doing damage control for them
These nip assholes really do have everyone by the balls, fucking hell

>>732313835
>stillbirth
>better
kek

>>732313835
Don't care what you think, fag. That was factually the state final fantasy was in when 16 came out. Rebirth was later anyway, so it's irrelevant.

I really wonder what it feels like to be a Nintendo fan. This game has worse exploration than indie metroidvanias made by one guy and worse shooting than basically every FPS out there, but these people will come out here and tell you that the game is perfectly good as it is.

>>732306843
>exclamation point to make it sound like 1m is a lot despite the fact we know the game took a fuckload of time, money, and people to make
lol, lmao
Dunno who this guy is, but man, nigga needs to stop sucking cock so much.

>>732311852
Doubly funny is that one leaker/"leaker" that said the game cost $100m to make. I believe it considering the complete(?) rewrite, how long the game's been in active development and how long the credits are.
>game's full of shit that'll piss off Prime fans specifically, solely to pull in "a wider audience" (and make Tanabe happy)
>Myles alone probably cut sales in half, and I'm not kidding
>99% of Metroid fans don't buy the game
>it's revealed that the feds were going to have an even bigger part in the game but a lot was cut mere months before release (probably around the time the world first heard "so... win?")
>neither release of MP4 sells 1m despite Switch 2 owners being desperate for literally anything to play that isn't just MKW
>Nintendo has to panic-advertise MP4 like mad on Twitter the second the news got out to try to eke out some extra sales and soothe their shareholders

Say it with me folks: "Only Metroid fans buy Metroid games!"

>>732314551
Lmao what a faggot. I dont even love the game but it's hilarious how much this game makes you seethe. You've been like this for months now.

>>732314664
>implying I've posted this more than twice
lol, lmao

>>732314786
>implying you've posted it more than once
that's not even what I was saying fag. It's clear you're the retard who shits his pants in every thread about this game. Thanks for admitting to that though

>>732314863
>only posted it twice
>there have been hundreds of Prime 4 threads
>I'm the guy that says it every thread
4chan is an anonymous website currently with about 230k users (allegedly), and /v/ is one of the most popular boards on the site.
Just because it says "Anonymous" doesn't mean every "Anonymous" is the same person, newfag.

"Literally every person that doesn't like [thing] is one person" is some weird kind of coping mechanism for people who don't go out enough, and that's coming from me, a guy that works from home and only leaves to run errands or go out on my e-bike.

>>732315208
>still missing the point this much
nigga I aint talking about that particular message how dense are you

>>732306843
Why couldn't the 155m minimum install base save it?

Weren't tendies making excuses that Yotei sold faster than Bananza because of the 80m vs 12m install base? MP4 had 155m + 12m and it sold less than Yotei

>>732312372
Hi tanabe. I know you have a lot of free time now that Nintendo fired you but you aren't welcome here.

>>732315423
install base cope genuinely only applies to the first 30/40 million units of a consoles. After that point software sales peak outside of magic franchises like mario kart.

>>732307454
it was their big holiday game though and was crossgen. kinda ass when you consider pokemon did about 13 mil.

>>732311948
>>732312416
>they are now shitting on Metroid one of the most popular and well known series of all time rather than admit MP4 is dogshit
You’re fake as fuck fans by the way

Literally every Metroid game in the whole franchise sells about this many copies or less. Dread is the sole exception. I don't know why we're surprised.

>>732315729
>spend 10-20x the money on a new game
>get the same sales as the older games

>>732315662
It's true, faggot. Metroid is literally my favorite franchise ever, but everyone knows it was never a massive seller.

>>732312372
even nerrel, the number one tendie and biggest metroid fan, tore that shit apart dude
you are coping

>>732315817
MP4 had an exceptionally shitty dev time and everyone knows it. They did not 'spend big' in order to turn it into the next mario, they spent big because they kept desperately trying to salvage it.

>>732315901
>muh jewtubers
nobody cares, faggot.

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>>732312372
The game deserved the hate because the fanboys who champion it are the most obnoxious people on all of 4chan. You have only yourselves to blame for being underage console warriors who can't listen to criticism.

>>732315959
>reviews don't count!
>jewtubers don't count!
>anons don't count!
>metroid fans don't count!
clearly they're all just a loud minority of trolls

>>732306843
>officially
Pretend you won kektendo style.

>>732316047
Don't care, fag. Literally anyone who appeals to jewtubers deserves to die. It's almost as bad as appealing to game journos.

>>732316036
You don't get it, Nintendo games have a higher caliber of gameplay. It's masterpiece game design.

>>732316036
Nigger I've told you multiple times what I dont like about the game and every time you cry about fanboys blindly defending it anyway.

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>>732316116
>"everybody who hates it is just trolling!"
>point to a genuine fan who hates it
>"YOU'RE APPEALING TO A JEWTUBER"
no retard, I'm not appealing to authority, that would be implying his opinion is more valuable than anyone or acting like he's an authority
I'm merely disproving your claim that it's just "le 4chin hate campaign"
you are throwing a tantrum and declaring everyone a troll because your game was shit

>>732316173
>guy literally says the Prime 4 has an "unfair hate campaign towards it" as if none of the critique made against it was valid
>B-BUT I TOLD YOU WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE GAME

Then stop whining about da evil haters.

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>a Nintendo rep told a him

>>732316036
>weeks of rage against this phase
>it turns out Power Bomb instakills most/all the arms making things way easier

>>732316270
I have said none of those things nor was I the original post you replied to. All I have said is fuck appealing to jewtubers and that's it. Now fuck off for even knowing who that jewtuber even is

>>732316036
indefensible

>>732316302
>guy literally says the Prime 4 has an "unfair hate campaign towards it" as if none of the critique made against it was valid
You can have an unfair hate campaign and legitimate negative reviews. those are not mutually exclusives. You faggots don't know how to think in anything but hyperbole.

>>732312372
I have to agree, the stuff people cried about really were non-issues and there were other things that were far worse that nobody said a word about. Genuinely makes me think nobody actually played the game.
>Green Crystals and mech hunt
The big crystal deposits you need the power bomb to break literally fill the meter 1/10th of the way up each. They aren't hard to find and usually show up in multiples of 2 or 3. I went from 0 crystals to 100% in 15 minutes. You have to be a complete retard to take longer than 30 minutes to find the mech parts too, they're all at the camps and you should have found them all by looking for the green crystals since the 2 quests go hand in hand and need to be completed at the same time before moving on. There's actually a great "metroid moment" where the one mech part that isn't marked on the map is one you would have walked past a few times in the entrance to the ice belt. Once I realized what the mech parts actually looked like I immediately remembered that I had seen that one and went and got it.
>Miles tells you what to do too often and the characters are bad
Miles is genuinely the most unhelpful fuck ever. Everything he tells you isn't helpful in the slightest. "Try going places you haven't been yet." "Try going places you've already been to with your new powers" "Look at the horizon to see where to go". Besides the one time he explicitly says to go back to the volt forge everything he has to say is so vague and one size fits all it doesn't give you any idea of where to go whatsoever. He also really doesn't call you that much at all. He calls you ONE time after each major section of the game and then once again maybe every 30 minutes or so if you haven't made any progress, which every other Prime game does too. As for the other characters I actually thought they were well done and likeable. If the game stayed exactly as is and the only difference was the characters were deleted from the game, it would be much worse off.

>>732316036
>always the same webm of the first phase of the fight
the sad thing is, retards will buy into your shit posts

>>732316036
lmao holy shit

>>732316582
You act like anything else in the fight matters. The game literally discards it like nothing happened in the ending. Sylux comes back completely unharmed, overpowers EVERYBODY, and makes Samus run away like a scared little girl. Thus, nothing in the fight is fun or good.

>>732316582
I wish defenders of this game bothered to show off how good it was, but they never do. They just want you to use your imagination even though switch 1 and 2 allow video recording. You'd think they would want to show off their games and console.

>>732316537
For me the things that actually deserved to be criticized was basically everything related to combat. The number of enemy types is absolutely unacceptable, theres only a small handful and most encounters are just those white robot guys. The bossfights are also pretty bad and have horrible feedback for if you're actually hitting them or solving whatever combat puzzle is attached to them. The fire flea guy you have to fight for the final mech part is the best example of this, you have to shoot his eyes multiple with the slowmo psychic beam but NOTHING happens when you do, he doesn't blink, it doesn't flash a color, NOTHING you just have to keep doing it and eventually it explodes. I also just found motion controls to be absolutely unusable and had to tweak the controls and settings a bunch to make the game playable. I really didn't see anyone critique these aspects of the game at all which is crazy to me, everyone would rather just cry about shit that doesn't actually matter.

>>732316738
>lying about things that never happened
Its a sealiontranny thread, alright.

>>732316738
Sylux arrived to fuck shit up and he did. The point is that by winning you barely escape with your life. What, would you have preferred it for him to job even harder?

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>>732316886
I sure love when a game makes it so nothing I do matters, and the cutscenes and story take precedence. It's like I'm really playing a snoy walk-and-talk movie.

>>732316960
nigger you die if you lose. how is that "gameplay doesn't matter". Genuinely you are funking retared. This just might be one of your most disingenuous posts ever. "the game doesn't have a happy ending therefore the gameplay is meaningless!" Seriously, fuck off with this one.

>>732311852
The amount of copium to defend a game with a decade long development being a critical and commercial flop while Nintendo's stock slides nearly 40% lmao

Fucking pathetic braindead corporate drone. Also the difference between first party and third party is usually just 70% vs. 100%, as vast majority of sales are digital now. You are delusional if you think all of retro working on one turd of a game for a decade only cost $50m

>>732317064
>nigger you die if you lose.
Why doesn't that apply to Sylux?

>>732317167
lmao holy fucking seethe. why the hell are you bringing up nitnendo's stock out of nowhere (which, by the way, is still on par with peak wii/ds and switch 1 stock) ?

>>732317243
>video game boss doesn't die at the end of the fight, therefore the fight is bad!
This is how retarded you sound. I seriously don't get your angle with this one.

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>>732317303
>video game boss doesn't die at the end of the fight, therefore the fight is bad!
Yes. go back to playing snoy movies if you think this is acceptable.

>but we can't have the boss die, we have to be better men! Kratos-sama save me!

I'm surprised Sylux actually is an irredeemable piece of shit instead of having some sob story to make you feel bad for him, that would've actually been Marvel writing

>>732317413
>Yes. go back to playing snoy movies if you think this is acceptable.
Genuinely you are fucking retarded. Do you not realize you're literally arguing that story is more important than gameplay for say a boss MUST die at the end of the fight?

>>732317520
Why have a boss fight if the game is going to ignore it and have you lose in the cutscene?

>>732313654
>Being similar to dread is a good thing for prime 4.
Except it isn't similar, because Dread was fucking awesome, and Prime 4 is absolute shit.

>>732317579
Because the fight is fun? If story doesn't matter, who gives a shit what happens after the fight?

>>732317629
I'm talking about saleswise you fucking retard

>>732317709
Because the fight isn't fun. It's casualized slop. Hollow Knight has better bosses.

>>732317787
>moving the goalpost
lmao get fucked. You were arguing FOR "story in video games" for moment there and you're such a disingenuous dipshit you didn't even realize it.

>>732317856
I'm arguing for the gameplay to be the most important part of a game. When the story makes the gameplay unimportant and acts as if an entire boss fight didn't happen, then the game sucks ass.

>>732317938
>when the story makes the gameplay unimportant and acts as if an entire boss fight didn't happen,
That's literally just an complaint about the story though.The gameplay would be unchanged if sylux died. The fact that you can't get this into your head shows just how much of a retard you actually are. You don't care a nickel about this shit. You just want to argue for attention because you it's all you ever do with your life.

>>732318115
>That's literally just an complaint about the story though.The gameplay would be unchanged if sylux died.
If he actually died, then the fight would've been more fun. Sylux would've shown that he was at risk of dying. The fight would've been more varied, instead of the bland, rushed mess that they pushed. They also wouldn't have wasted a whole phase on babysitting NPCs.

Previous Metroid Prime bosses would usually show that they're getting weaker and suffering from battle. Quadraxis would suffer battle damage and even lose his legs, Chykka would evolve into a mosquito and then become mutated in desperation, Meta Ridley would lose his wings and even his chest plate. What does Sylux suffer through? How does he show that?

>fighting his hydra tentacle dragon form is of no consequence, since he just summons it out of nowhere and then it goes away without consequence
>follow him through a tunnel where he very, very slowly fires at you sometimes
>shitty final phase where he's not even as challenging as Rhundas or Ghor or Gandrayda from Prime 3
>he looks just fine and pristine through the whole fight

And then at the end a little electricity comes out of him, but they can't even be bothered to make him look like he went through a 3 phase boss fight. And then he comes back, no worse for wear. I'm not given any visual feedback that I'm making any progress. The gay story doesn't give me feedback either, basically saying "you didn't even hurt him, he came back without a scratch".

>>732318413
>The fight would have been better because of muh story!
so you admit you love the story in video games?

>>732318476
i love when story doesn't conflict with gameplay. I'm sorry if this is a foreign concept.

>>732318561
Name one.

>>732307246
Metroid has always had middling sales but the long development probably condemned this one to flopping.

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>>732306843
Nice. For me, I love the bike. It feels to me like the Batmobile in Arkham night for some reason, or what a Batman motorcycle would be like, please don’t let people tell you this game is not amazing, not just because of the bike.

>>732318115
I honestly disagree with you on this quite a bit. I wanted Sylux to be imposing and that's what I got. If he was just a fuckass who kneels to samus after one fight he would be a lame villain. Fighting against someone who can hold their own against samus made it a more fun fight to me.

>>732306843
>Fastest selling Metroid game ever!
are you retarded OP

>>732318712
Shit, meant for >>732318413

>>732318624
Terraria.

>you can murder literally everyone, including NPCs
>they never come back if you don't build them houses, so they stay dead
>you can destroy the entire world
>bosses you kill die and stay dead, and only can come back if you go through the effort to bring them back via summon items
>no cutscenes, no forced exposition, 100% gameplay
Unlike your metroid snoy movies.

>>732318739
Is he wrong? it sold over a million in like a month. All we know about dread was that it sold around 800k in 1 month in the US, and obviously japan didnt add a whole lot to it.

>>732318814
>this shtick again
wait, so ACfag actually admitted that he loves story in video games? Lmao I'm not gonna let you live this one down.

>>732318712
>I wanted Sylux to be imposing
Then why didn't he immediately kill Samus the moment he stepped out of the pod? Why couldn't he instakill all of the NPCs in seconds? The fact that he didn't immediately murder all of them before the final boss even started makes him a confused mishmash of a lame jobber with weird moments of plot armor. A good villain would've killed all of the NPCs the moment he stepped on Viewros, and he wouldn't have needed a healing pod because he would already be near unkillable.

>>732318814
>Terraria, the game with furry NPCs and no gender, has a story that enhances the gameplay
that was not worth outing yourself over

>>732318878
Maybe when the game has good story, I don't mind it. Metroid does not fit this. it's too busy being marvelslop.

>>732318956
It has no story, that's the beauty of it. It's the most minimalist you can get outside of an old game like Tetris or Pong.

>>732318916
>a good villain should be overpowered
I said imposing, not galactic destroyer. You are such a faggot it hurts

>>732306843
I didn't even bother pirating it

>>732319010
>It has no story, that's the beauty of it
You said you love story though.

>>732319038
If he can't murder the main character like they were made out of tissue paper, then he's not imposing.

>>732319089
*when it doesn't conflict with the gameplay
Come on, you can read.

Thank god, now maybe Nintendo can put this series away for 10+ years and we won't have to listen to the insufferable western fanbase that squeals like pigs but doesn't actually buy the game.

>>732318817
>it sold over a million in like a month
>Source: My brother's girlfriend's father's college roommate's nephew's mailman's uncle works at Metroid and he said so

>>732319056
me either

>>732319117
>If he can't murder the main character like they were made out of tissue paper, then he's not imposing.
this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. If that were true than there'd be no game at all because then the hero would die the moment you start playing. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about

>>732319117
>*when it doesn't conflict with the gameplay
sylux not dying doesn't affect the gameplay at all though.

>>732319117
>sylux is bad because he doesn't die!
>actually sylux is bad because he doesn't instakill the protagonist!
lmao just admit you argue in bad faith you dipshit

>>732306843
CHADther M crushes this.

>>732319206
>If that were true than there'd be no game at all because then the hero would die the moment you start playing.
Modern games like Hollow Knight: Silksong seem to understand this concept pretty well. For example, it takes you out of your comfort zone and makes a good chunk of enemies do 2 masks of damage instead of 1, it also constantly demands that you master platforming and combat simultaneously. Something Metroid refuses to do.

>>732319249
Him not dying means that we're shoehorned into one terrible ending where nothing gets resolved and Samus runs away like a pussy. Meanwhile (since I'm using it as an example) Silksong literally opens up an entire new postgame based on how you choose to deal with the final boss.

>>732319317
Sylux should be an extremely hard fight, but when you beat him he should die. No conflict there, amigo.

>>732315423
>Yotei sold faster than Bananza
?? it didn't.

Sorry, faggot. Not wasting another evening to your retarded drivel. No one takes your "arguements" seriously because all you ever do is argue in circles. You are nothing but an attention whore and I've fed your (you) addiction enough for today.

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>I can't argue against you so I'll just call you retarded and a whore
>hah, I win

>>732313224
>>732313419
FF16 was just honest
Why try pretending to be an RPG? Square Enix has always been trying to turn it into an action series

>>732315543
you're kinda stupid to be comparing to metroid to pokemon

>>732319572
nigger it's been hours. I don't want to spend the rest of my evening with you. You are not worth the trouble. Why on god's green earth would I want to spend any more time with someone as obnoxious as you?

>>732319687
You spend entire days jerking off in the famitsu threads, constantly gloating over sales and metacritic scores. An hour of your time here is suddenly too much of an investment?

>>732319760
>You spend entire days jerking off in the famitsu threads, constantly gloating over sales and metacritic scores.
brother I don't even know who you think I am. famitsu threads have gotten gay, so I never post in them any more.
>p-please argue with me for more hours and hours please
you really are a (you) slut aren't you?

>>732319845
>claims to never go into famitsu threads
>proudly gloats over Prime 4 selling a million copies (incase you didn't notice the thread we're in)

>>732319910
>proudly gloats over Prime 4 selling a million copies (incase you didn't notice the thread we're in)
...and where did I do this? You sound delusional dude. I'd tell you to take a break from this website, but then you'd probably go through too many withdrawal symptoms

>>732313592
It really doesn't, people are acting as if it raped their mother, this isn't Forspoken where the game was completely irredeemable, because Metroid Prime 4 actually does a lot of things really well and a lot of things better than previous Metroid games, it has better graphics and music than Dread, and it's level design is better than Metroid Prime 3, even it's visual design is the best in the Prime series, it really doesn't deserve anywhere near the hate it recieved.
You're a faggot.

>>732319998
You wouldn't be defending Prime 4 this hard if you didn't have an emotional investment in it. the only thing I said was that I wished the boss fight reflected the fact that I fought this asshole through 3 separate phases, instead of having Samus job to him immediately afterward.

>>732315901
He stated multiple times that there's a lot of things he likes about the game, just that it's riddled with questionable and avoidable faults, which everyone who played it basically agrees, the problem is that the game itself is really fun to play and it's areas are well designed and stand out for the series.

>>732320083
>better graphics and music
This isn't a snoy movie, this means nothing.

>level design is better
It's literally a boring, empty hubworld connected by hallways. At least Prime 3 let you skip the hubworld by having the airship take its place.

>visual style
Purple lighting everywhere, with every surface looking like it was smeared in vaseline. I wouldn't exactly call it good design.

>>732316770
Anon, a lot of Switchfag evangelists on /v/ don't actually own a Switch or Switch 2. They larp to participate in consolewar threads. Nobody who defends whatever modern Nintendo does ever shows proof that they actually own either system.

>>732320089
>Anyone who disagrees with me is is emotionally invested
whatever you say nigger~

>>732320214
>no rebuttal

>>732320176
Nah, fuck off. Last time I showed a picture of my collection you niggers turned tail and refused to provide pictures of your own.

>>732320294
>why didn't people believe me when I posted fake, photoshopped evidence?!

>>732320175
The graphics are well balanced, they don't look super detailed but they run hard with their aesthetic and look amazing because of this, this is a very Nintendo thing
Point to point level design and theming is excellent, it's easily better than Prime 3, notice that I stated level design and not world design, what you don't like is the world design
>purple li....
You didn't even play the game, you're just here to shitpost like all the other retards here who are just mad about the Switch 2 being such a big success, or something, I have no idea why shitposting has hit levels not seen before, even the Switch 1 launch wasn't anywhere near as bad as this but you people have lost your shit.... and it's glorious.

>>732320368
lmao I'm not acfag

>>732318696
Pure cope lmao

>>732320394
>the graphics are well balanced
They cost 100 million dollars and shot the price of the game up beyond any reasonable number. That alone was a detriment.

Silksong had a far more beautiful world and better level design and world design, and it only cost 20 bucks. What's Prime 4's excuse?

>>732320454
Willing to put your money where your mouth is?

>>732320494
>they cost 100 million dollars
No they didn't, Nintendo hasn't talked about the budget at all
>you can make great graphics for less therefore any graphics that cost more are instantly bad
You're making my initial point perfectly, you were never interested in this game, you wouldn't have played it if it was considered the best game of all time, you are just here to shit on it because you are clearly nintendo deranged.

>>732320540
I don't know what you even want a picture of my dude

>>732320628
>you can make great graphics for less therefore any graphics that cost more are instantly bad
Yes. 100% this. I thought you guys were about gameplay first, and yet you jerk off graphics as if they're so important?

>>732320719
>gameplay first means I only one games where everything is a 1 by 1 pixel

>>732320719
No you fucking retard because you can't use the same hand drawn style for metroid prime because it doesn't work in 3d, you can't have expressive materials like metals and plastic that change based on the direction/intensity etc. of direct and indirect light like what you see in metroid using the same kind of art seen in silksong, it doesn't work that way
>i thought you were gameplay first but graphics blah blah blah
Yet again, completely fucking retarded making irrelevant unhinged points, you can enjoy both, the original Metroid Prime was lauded because of it's graphics and for the time the game was actually really expensive, but since you didn't play the game you wouldn't know that it had the best gameplay of any Metroid Prime, the smoothest controls with ease.

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>>732320817
>that's why all games need 500 million dollar hollywood budgets to achieve that peak realism, or else games might be too videogamey
I would sooner play Pong than touch any modern "realistic" AAA game.

>>732320927
complete and utter hyperbole. Just like it always is with you faggots

>>732320919
>No you fucking retard because you can't use the same hand drawn style for metroid prime because it doesn't work in 3d,
Not with that quitter attitude.

>>732321056
Maybe with the kind of brain damage you clearly have you could think that's the case.

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So, is there a trick to emulate it on Ryujinx or does it simply not run yet? I've seen conflicting information online and it's extra hard to look for help on getting it to start while trying to avoid spoilers

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>>732321092
It's always "we can never ever do this" because people are lazy. EA once said that Sim City could never run offline because the game would never function without it. And then guess what happens.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/17/ea-admits-simcity-could-have-run-offline-went-against-developers-vision/

>>732311852
It's budget is well over 100 million.
It fucking bombed.

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*nuclear holocausts your 40 year running franchise*

>>732321147
emulate it with the latest eden nightly build, my build is a week old or so and i was getting some audio cut outs, unsure if it's fixed now.

>>732321380
But I get to gloat about sales and own da snoys, so...... win?

>>732307246
Meh, it looked like japs didn't care about the game maybe they only like the bing bing wahoo games

>>732316036
What the fuck is this?

>>732318878
>poopdickschizo posting
Nobody cares about your shadow war with imaginary board boogyman.
Seek help, dude.

McKanzie is literally a walking yellow paint - the character.

>>732321380
>>732321428
>bazinga chungus
>in a metroid game
>in 2025
Has everyone at Retro just been insulated from general media shifts since 2007?

>>732311852
I don’t care, and neither should you, because the game sucks

>>732321389
Oh wow, I didn't even know this Eden emulator existed but the game actually starts on it. Thank you, anon
I'm gonna drop out of the thread now since, as I said, I've been avoiding spoilers all this time

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>Raven Beak who?
>Ridley who?

>>732310923
Should I make an apology tour because they just underperformed instead of making an astronomic flop?

>>732322737
It sold one million on a 100 million+ dollar budget. It's an astronomical failure.

>>732322479
try to have fun, i found it incredibly boring.

>>732306949
Tanabe is gone, Sylux is going to get the boot after 4's reception

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>Not even in the top 20
>Lost to Kirby Air Riders
Big oof

>>732324560
kirby had a whole extra month of sales data over prime 4

4 probably did between 1.2-1.5 mill with both versions, it can't be too far behind kirby

>>732306843
Its a good game. I completely enjoyed it. Youtubers gonna hate

>>732307336
He's supposed to be but he's in the game for about 30 seconds.

>>732320083
>this isn't Forspoken where the game was completely irredeemable
It is.
>because Metroid Prime 4 actually does a lot of things really well and a lot of things better than previous Metroid games
Not a single thing.
>and it's level design is better than Metroid Prime 3
Prime 4's """""level design""""" consists of fucking cutscene hallways.

>>732325407
Did you have a blast as well?

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>>732321380
OH MY GOODNESS!

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>>732306949
leave Halo 5 to me

>>732306949
only if all those fucks on that planet winded up dead forever.

>>732326845
There's no way there's a happy ending to them especially now that we know Sylux is supposed to come back. There's like 3 things that could've happened to them
>Sylux killed them all
>Sylux took them as hostages/experiments
>Sylux fucks off and leaves them stranded

>>732306843
Unless they can provide me with the physical, original sales receipts, I will assume they are lying.

>>732307143
Nintendo owners will literally buy anything with a Nintendo logo.

>>732307246
And there's the goalpost being moved

>>732329849
Might not even break even

>"Genki" reports Stephen Totilo reports Nintendo rep reports Nintendo reports Prime 4 . . .
4 degrees removed, epic

>>732327737
I'm sure Tanabe's plan was for Sylux to brainwash them with his psychic Metroids like he did to some Space Pirates and Samus would have to snap them out of it and rescue them, but since Tanabe retired and we don't know what Retro themselves thinks of them, it's possible they'll just have them killed off between games if they/the new producer/Nintendo decide it's not worth to bring them forward. The only aspect that will undoubtedly stay is Sylux as the villain, though personally I think it would be cool it they brought in some of the other Hunters too as allies/enemies.

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>>732333053

They should set the next Prime game after Dread

>>732325625
Yup, the kind of faggot that makes my point

>>732334090
Got any kind of argument there, faggot?

>>732321308
Okay, show where Nintendo mentioned the games budget.

>>732334105
Yes, you just made my argument, retards who never played the game see it as the worst game of the last decade, it really is overhated, and in general it's from people who don't understand it on any level.

>>732334212
And what are you gonna do if I go get a timestamp of my save file, huh? You gonna find a proper argument then or are you gonna get on your little faggot dicksucker knees and open wide?

>>732334281
I'm going to call you a liar because anyone who played it can find stuff that was good about it, you say it's completely irredeemable but it isn't, it's soundtrack is the best we've gotten from Metroid in years, it's visual design is excellent, even it's suits are arguably the best in the series, and while overall sure levels would have been a lot better if they were laid out in a less linear fashion point to point level design was still excellent.

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>>732334458
>I'm going to call you a liar
You don't have that option, dumb fucking bitch. Open wide.
>you say it's completely irredeemable but it isn't
It is.
>it's soundtrack is the best we've gotten from Metroid in years
There are two good songs.
>even it's suits are arguably the best in the series
The Viola suit is hideous and the last suit is just a shittier Light suit.
>and while overall sure levels would have been a lot better if they were laid out in a less linear fashion point to point level design was still excellent.
WHAT LEVEL DESIGN? THERE ISN'T ANY, THEY ARE LITERALLY FUCKING STRAIGHT LINES THAT ARE COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM EACH OTHER. TWO ENTIRE DUNGEONS ARE NOTHING BUT FUCKING CUTSCENE CORRIDORS.

>>732334281
>>732334458
Oh and that's with a timestamp, I don't care, you could have your mother verify that that's you holding your Switch copy of the game with a print out of your save file's binary and I'd still call you a liar because you would still be lying in saying that the game has literally zero redeeming features. and you completely and utterly make my point by doing all of this.

>>732316394
You really are dense, little newfag

>combined
grim
the switch 2 is selling like hot cakes, what the fuck are people playing on it?
i guess people really only care about pokemon after all

>>732334672
Yes, you have completely and utterly made my point for me, this game that clearly does things well, and no matter how hard it makes you seethe and completely disregard any qualities it has all you are doing is making my initial point.

>>732334692
>prove that i played the game
>"n-nuh uh... i-it doesn't count b-b-b-because you'd like the game..."
Kill yourself. The game has no redeeming features aside from graphical fidelity. It is a bad video game, and you're defending it either because you have no taste and love slurping up cinematic sony dogshit, or because you're getting paid to do so. Tie the fucking noose.

>>732334741
You have no point. You're just saying bullshit and then calling me a liar when I can actually prove I played the game. Where's your save file? You just say things are good but never elaborate. What's good about them? What's good about the level design, huh? Use your words if you can get Tanabe's shrimp dick out of your mouth, bitch boy.

>>732326270
The Didact was a great villain and Halo 4's story should have been a trilogy.

>>732334714
Investor report showed that the average Switch 2 owner has two games for it, and one of them is the Mario Kart bundle.

So basically everyone is getting the MK World bundle and then picking between Donkey Kong or Pokemon.

>>732312372
>against a game that didn't deserve it
Fuck right off
Never in any Prime game before this one the level design was this linear and boring
Myles cannot shut the fuck up and once you think you're finally rid of him for the time being, the massive faggot shows up in your intercom and refuses to let you do things by yourself, there was a moment where I entered the Volt Forge and opened the map to have an idea of what to do, only for Myles to butt in and go HEEEEY LET'S OPEN THE MAP SHALL WE, NOW I'LL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO YOU BIG DUMB BABY because god forbid the developer allows the player to engage with the game on his own terms
The desert is quite literally empty to a degree no shitposter could claim BotW is, it has absolutely nothing in it save for rocks to ram into and a handful of pseudoshrines with braindead puzzles blocked by progression that give you beam "upgrades"
Having to haul ass back to Myles for upgrades because we gotta bloat that playtime somehow fellas
I hope every person that is not part of the art or music team never finds work again

>>732334790
No you retard, I said I didn't care if you played the game because you are still lying
>you have no point
Yes I do, I have my initial point that the game is overhated, and you proved it, you played the game and it still wracks your brain, you hate it so much you refuse to acknowledge any merit when the game is full of it, and at best all you can do is "nu uh"
Plays best, absolutely, moment to moment movement and controls are the best the series has ever seen, completely backed up by it's even more customizable control system as well as even more ways to play than ever before.
There are more than 2 good songs, and you're clearly underselling this because you have just such an unmitigated seethe, the intro song is great, so is the main theme for volt forge, and the vehicle license theme, as well as the fury green intro bit that plays only when you first warp there for a few scenes, there's also the ice belt theme, as well as Sylux theme, it's literally the best Metroid soundtrack in well over a decade, and here you are saying that it's irredeemable.
>suit design is bad because i say so
Yup, completely retarded, can't even discuss aesthetics, the variants in material types, the highlights, the areas of rest and detail in the suit, as well as it's in line with Metroid's approach to visual design reiteration of details, you say it's bad, but that's all you can say because you're basic
>it's linear it's literally just hallways
No it isn't, there's plenty breaking up what you do between areas, you're just lying about this part, it's only real fault is it's lack of linearity.

>>732335156
>I have my initial point that the game is overhated, and you proved it
All you're saying here is that any argument against your claim somehow proves your claim. It is completely batshit insane cultist level thinking.
>you refuse to acknowledge any merit when the game is full of it
It's not full of it. In fact, it has none.
>and at best all you can do is "nu uh"
I can write an essay about everything wrong with this pile of shit. Would you like me to? We both know you'd just respond to it with "okay so you proved my point!"
>Plays best, absolutely
It plays the same as Prime 1, including the fucked up extra shot that happens when you try to charge shot. A problem they fixed with Prime 2 but apparently went backwards on because they're incompetent. And as a matter of fact, it plays worse than Prime 1 because of the heavy emphasis on gunplay over exploration, which doesn't work for how Prime actually plays. There's a reason Prime was called a first person adventure game and not a first person shooter but the 343 rejects who made this slop didn't get the memo.
>There are more than 2 good songs
There aren't.
>it's literally the best Metroid soundtrack in well over a decade
There have been two (2) Metroid games in the past decade.
>can't even discuss aesthetics, the variants in material types, the highlights
It looks like shit, there's nothing else to say. It's overdesigned and looks like some weird alien muscle mass that doesn't really flow. It's awkward.
>No it isn't
It literally is. It literally, literally is. You have no argument here, every area is LITERALLY A FUCKING HALLWAY. Do you need me to google the maps for you since you apparently didn't play the game you're so devoted to protecting?

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>>732308018
The Switch 1 is a smashing success and Metroid is more popular than ever, MP4 should have sold 10m copies given the cricumstances and hype.

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>>732335603
She can't take all this success

>>732306843
If the reported costs of making the game being around $200 mil are true, then this is not good.

>>732308280
Even hunters managed to get to 1 million on ds.
Makes me think the combined for 4 is 70/30 in favor of switch 1 similar to pokemon z-a

Why can't /v/ just take the L for once? Face it you lost, metroid won.

>>732306949
They did my goat dirty

>>732321598
Sylux's first phase gave me fucking whiplash, goddamn dragon heads of all things. At least the second is a 1v1 duel that makes more sense, but it still gets crazy.

>>732319686
1 million copies sold is bad regardless, but nintendo refused to market it properly(giving it 0 driects with air ride got 2) so even nintendo knew it sucked. a bad game sold poorly because word of mouth destroyed it.

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>>732335691

>>732329772
>snoys will buy anything made by sony
fixed that for you

>>732312372
This, so much this, the fact that you got do many deranged faggots replying to you with seething rage over just pointing it out makes it clear.

The hatred for this game is not organic, never was.

>>732335523
Not even the anon but your reply is
>Nu uh, no uh, no uh
In a nutshell.

Kill yourself faggot.

Also

>It plays the same as Prime 1
You didn't play the game.

>>732307246
thiz is why tpc and gamefreak dont put budget, it's a waste

>>732339520
>>732312372
MP4 does deserve the hate though.

The game is designed like shit and anyone who plays it realizes it minutes in. All the maps are just straight corridors surrounding an empty nothingness of an "open world". They'd be unacceptably bad designs for an indie game made by one stoner in his bedroom.

>>732339950
>MP4 does deserve the hate though
No, it doesn't, proven multiple times through this thread alone.

>straight corridors
Fuck off with that meme

>>732340054
You're a blind fucking fanboy who can't admit when daddy Nintendo fucks him in the ass. Metroid Prime 4 is objectively bad and everyone hates it for very good reasons that are true.

>>732340179
>Ad hominem
And that's all you have

Kill yourself schizo

>>732340231
Blind. Fucking. Fanboy. Why do you defend a shit game? Consider your motives.

>>732315729
>Dread is the sole exception.
Dread only sold 200k more than Prime 1 retard

>>732340295
>Still ad hominem
Beyond pathetic

>>732340335
You have made absolutely no arguments whatsoever.

>>732340403
Neither have you, retarded faggot

Why is that an issue?

Doesn't Rockstar count every version of GTA sold as one large sales figure too?

>>732340425
The arguments are perfectly clear and objectively proven and true: the game is designed like shit. The maps are corridors. The NPCs are annoying. The "open world" is just a useless empty desert. All of this is objectively true and makes the game objectively shit.

The "manufactured hate" is from Metroid fans who are upset that the game they waited for twelve years is the worst in the entire franchise. You are irrationally defending one of the worst games ever made.

>>732340579
>objectively proven and true
Where? Show me your "objective proof" that this is "true" in your next reply.
Should be easy.

>>732338149
>1 million copies sold is bad regardless
in a single month, in a series that struggles to sell over a million lifetime? nah it's great

>>732340579
You are one insincere, gigantic faggot that doesn't even understand why none of the shit that comes out of his mouth is unable to qualify as an "argument"

You are so insecure about your shit points you have to begin your post with superlative shit like.
>perfectly
And
>objectively
Multiple times in the span of one post.

These are your "arguments"
>the game is designed like shit
You do not give an explanation of why, therefore, not an argument, just an useless as shit statement without proof.

>The maps are corridors.
A meme, literally: Unoriginal, spread like a virus, without substance or nuance, without even a shred of analysis put into it, the shallowest, most inorganic shit ever spread about this game.

>The NPCs are annoying
Do you know them? Did you actually understand the story of the game, do you know why they're there? No, because you spouted yet another meme.

>The "open world" is just a useless empty desert
That you spend less than 5 minutes at any time, but of course, a negative aspect of a game has to become the show of it in your infantile, black and white world.

But congratulations, that was the only semblance of an "argument" you made.

Still not enough to declare a game is shit.

>one of the worst games ever made.
Hyperbole so gigantic that it makes you twist your knees.

And that's all you ever did, hyperbole, ad hominem, memes, and one fucking nasty attitude to back it off with.

Kill, yourself, faggot.

>>732340775
it was incredibly hyped, it was a game 8 years in the making and coming off dread which sold well and metroidvania games are very popular now. the entire reason people call it bad when it's simply mediocre is because there was so much hype for it.

it was also a game that looked incredible on switch 2 and showcased the new mouse mode, but there's a very real chance that it got outsold by the cyberpunk port. partially because of the eshop error where it was sold for $15, but still.

>>732341016
Just because something is "unoriginal" doesn't mean it's not true.

Not that he's proven even 1 of his claims to be "objective" or "true" lol, but "originality " is a retarded metric to use to validate truth claims.

>>732341175
Fine, I concede with that, but it's part of the definition of a meme, so that's why I bring it.

>>732307246
>selling under 2 million sounds pretty bad
SELLING FASTER MATTERS MORE THAN SELLING MORE!

>>732306843
>155M+15M install base
>took almost a 8 years with hight budget
>still took an entire month to reach 1 million
wow

>>732341270
Are memes inherently untrue?

>>732306843
great, now post how much profit it made. protip: it lost them millions
I'm sure primefags must be weeping right at the absolute state of their subseries now

>>732341425
No, but they are lazy, and are usually made for the porpose of spreading shit, regardless of whether the things stated on it are truth or lies.

The key word is "regardless"

Considering how fast and hard it's been getting discounted, this is bs

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>>732341016
absolutely everyone hates the marvel movie-tier quips and mackenzie with a passion

>>732341497
>protip: it lost them millions
Now post proof.
You won't, because you can't.

>>732341574
Mackenzie and Armstrong are the only ones I considered mildly annoying.

I actually liked Tokabi and Duke

>>732341518
So you're just upset that he's being lazy?
Ok.

>>732341694
Well, yeah, that's a part of it, insincere faggots tend to be extremely lazy and not have a clue of what they're talking about, that's why they're easy to dismiss

>>732306843
>source: trust me bro
kill yourself

>>732341664
>Tokabi saves samus from getting knotted
>Is actually interesting
>Also another BH to act as a foil to smellux
All the game had to do was divert all the npc dev time on sylux and tokabi and let the 3 bounty hunters figure shit out around the world.
But no, add Dev time to a goddamn nerd that adds nothing to the game and shove sylux on the ass end of the game for no fucking reason

>>732341750
Why does "sincerity" matter in this particular instance? If it's true, it doesnt matter if he was sincere or not. Same if it's untrue.

Basically, i think you're just flinging shit at him and seeing what sticks, while pretending these accusations validate truth claims (they don't).

Bamp

>>732344736
fuck off