Why is this the case after 2016?, PvP is fun as fuck
all pvp is competitive
>>732312617because after Overwatch people started collectively realizing that designing a whole game around top-end competitive players just makes it sterile and boring for everyone
>>732312927correct"balance" is cancerous un-fun garbage for esports chinkoids
It used to be a niche thing to metafag and copy the top players, most people were casual and just did whatever was fun. They weren't looking up tierlists for what characters to pick, what items are good, what grenade lineup up to throw etc. People just played the fucking game, mostly in their own circles.Nowadays everyone watches streamers or youtube guides and every competitive game has several top 100 players streaming regularly. Even people who suck ass still try to copy the best of the best and flame anyone who isn't playing "correctly".
>>732313072>>732313051>>732312927noob cope
>>732313186see and this is why nobody likes compfags
Don’t ever ruin my fun, because I am more important than you and the only one that matters in the universe.
>>732312927Overwatch's problem was that blizzard tried to balance for both casuals and competitive players
>>732312617Some people just can't accept losing
>>732312617Playing terribly on purpose AKA pretending to be retarded is HILARIOUS no cap fr ball gun rizz
PVP involves being an NPC where you have to play as the same, best character/class, ability combination, gear, etc... as everyone else in order to win. Inevitably, the "sweats", Players who try way too hard to win, will come in with optimal cookie-cutter meta-builds and dominate the game to such a degree that basically nobody else is allowed to play and have fun. This drives other players away from the game and, if the game is online and/or relying on a constant influx of funding, can lead to the game shutting down.Playing against bots lets you enjoy the game without having to worry that a bunch of sweaty losers are going to ruin it for everyone. Competitive/Sweaties are fucking NPC's who do not play for fun, they play to fill a void of failure within their souls.Go ahead, respond and surrender to me with something like "filtered", "noob" or "skill issue". Optimal/Meta-Gaming isn't skill-based, it's copying someone else's homework because you lack the skill and creativity to win on your own.
>>732313186Refer to OP
Our hobby was invaded by disgusting casuals and they whine louder than we ever could. You share a board with people who can't do fighting game inputs, something I learned in first grade from the manual. This board is dumber than first graders.
>>732312617Based, if you're not playing a video game for fun why are you playing? Ego?That's pathetic and you deserve to be mocked.
>>732313186I can't imagine playing TF2 and being told to swap to another character. I can't imagine playing any game and not just playing as the character I enjoy.
>>732312617fun for these niggas is losing while having a k/da of 0
>>732316751Get off sniper and spy you suck.
>>732317237I don't like those classes. I just played Scout a lot and constantly used the voice lines while playing.
>>732312617Happened to me recently in DBD (party game that still has comp players??!?)Got stomped by an anonymous 3-stack comp team and they called me shit, even though they had full meta and I had meme buildAs soon as Nurse gets bug-fixed I'm going on a win streak (200 min), only targetting "comp" playersAlso only just now realised the cucked image edit. My point still stands with the original
>>732312617>nowloooooooooooool blud wasn't alive during WoW STV
>>732312908And Noone is illega l on stolen land!
>>732312617The new wave of casuals aren't actually "casuals" in the traditional sense, it's mainly normgroids who are not mentally equipped to play PvP games at all but are propped up and retention farmed by SBMM in casual, autorotation aim assist, """sandbox""" shooter design, and participation trophy game design in general.It's really funny because hanger-on casuals from ex. older Battlefield games still haven't figured out that they're being replaced too.
>>732312617Lol based fun enjoyers