When did you realize it's the best in the series
Never, because it is mogged by MOTHER 2 in every way.
>>732316020Fpbp. Also when are we getting FATHER?
It's the worst one, actually. Not that it's bad or anything
>>732315759I love the atmosphere, challenge, and how there's minimal handholding/railroading compared to the sequels, really makes you feel like you're exploring and uncovering a big strange mysterious world.
>>732315759When I played the series in release order without smashcuck goggles like>>732316020>>732316081>>732316096These fags who think 2 isn't a slog
>>732316789Are you confusing 2 and 1? 1 has the factory
>>732316874The factories both fucking suck, but once they're over, you never have to go back to them again. Only other shitty segment, outside of Mt. Itoi, is the swamp. Meanwhile, EB you can't even fucking run, and the skip sandwiches barely last any time.
>>732315759It's my favorite in the series but I played with the 25th Anniversary hack that fixes basically every issue the original had, so my opinion is probably invalid. Objectively speaking it has the best music though, you gotta admit.
>>732319106>you can run in mother 1you didn't beat the game.
Mother is a stupid name
About fifteen years ago.
>>732319529The 25th anniversary hack uglifies the graphics. I don't recommend it at all.
>>732319689I didn't really care about it, but I get itI'm sure there's a similar hack that retains the original graphics
>>732319545Yeah I did.
>>732316789I played them in release order too and 1 still aged like dogshit.
>>732319529>25 anniversay editionLmao did they ever fix the dogshit graphicsBeing permanently starved for money and bugs?
>>732319689>>732320198You got me curious so I looked it up. I really can't see what's worth throwing a shitfit over here, it looks like typical NES sprites.....
it has my favorite plot and setting out of all three games but the game itself was obviously not tested, unfortunately. the plot is very minimalist and fantastically told for a NES game though.
>>732320752It feels like it was intended for players to both buy the official guide which is full of extra info and developer commentary and listen to the arranged music CD.
>>732320102Wasn't in the original game. You beat a babified, fan mod. You didn't beat the game.
>>732320857i don't think the guides are necessary but the vocal album is a must listen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYlaZR8MFgover the years i actually realized that the cabin scene where ninten dances with ana isn't just a love scene. it's also them becoming aware of their mortality and taking one last chance to dance together because they're pretty much on a suicide mission. hits me right in the feels t b h
>>732315759so what's going on today?also m1 is the third best one. then m2 is the third best. and last we have m3, the third best one.
>>732320680Now compare them to the og
>>732319529m1 has the widest selection of good music>pollyanna>bein' friends>mother earth/8 melodies>all that i needed was you>paradise line>flying man>wisdom of the world>the credits rendition of 8 melodies>plus they all have an album version with lyrics to fit the 80s america feel.m2 has a couple good songs but most are "fillery".m2:>pollyanna rendition is nice but it's also a m1 song technically>boy meets girl/twoson theme>winters theme>fourside theme/because i love you>smiles and tears/8 melodies>cease to exist/porky means business>a lot of weird sounding musicm3 has a fair amount of good songs but half are kinda "fillery". m1 still has the best ratio of good songs to filler songs.m3:>16 melodies, which half the song is just a mashup of m1's and m2's 8 melodies so it's not really original>love theme>back beat battle>the attic's a dungeon>batty twist/porky's porkies>theme of king p (m64)>his highness' theme>dcmc theme/mind of a thief>run my dog, run>unfounded revenge>rock and roll (spicy)>bon voyage, amigo>piggy guys>you call this a utopia!? (which is just a segment from the og king p theme from m64)>it's over rendition of the love theme>the credits' renditions of his highness' theme and the love themeoverall, m1 has my favorite selection. but i absolutely love all the songs i mentioned.i kinda miss the english lyrics being added to the songs too.the only lyrical songs from m2/m3 are smiles and tears and the live theme, which are both jp songs. sure, they have fan english versions, but they're just not the same. i assume they didn't care to make official english versions anymore because the series no longer took place in america.eagleland is american inspired but it's not 1:1 to america.
>>732321909Yeah, it doesn't look different enough to get upset over. I think you just have severe autism.
>>732315759I like that it actually has a story beyond "there's an evil bad guy you're the chosen one you gotta stop him!!"I do think that ultimately works for 2 because that simplicity kind of gets subverted when you fight Giygas but I still liked 1 more for actually having a backstory to draw you in and all of what's going on actually being explained by the end. 2 just kind of felt like random wacky bullshit the whole way through1's Giygas battle is kino as fuck tooI haven't played 3 yet
>>732322229>>732320680>>732319689It's more that these old sprites are kind of iconic and arbitrarily choosing to replace all of them makes no sense to me. Something like this should fix the technical and design issues, not totally reskin the game.
>>732315759When I told my friend I was playing Earthbound, and he told me>You have to play through Mother 1 first. You won't understand the ending of Earthbound unless you do. and it was pure ludo.
Take a melody...
>>732321172i've come to realize that ninten and ana also kiss in that scenei've also realized through the love theme's jp lyrics that hinawa is singing about both her kids, not just lucas. japanese doesn't use specific plural/singular forms as much as english does so you could take her song to be about both her kids or specific sections referring to a different kid.and the lyrics:>おさなごの ほほえみは まぶたの中に いまでも>よべば とどく きっと いつか ふくりむくget me every time because i realize she's at least partly singing about claus when he's brainwashed>even now, when i close my eyes, i still see the little ones' smiles.>if i call, my voice will reach them (him). surely someday, they'll (he'll) turn towards me.it goes hand in hand with hinawa calling to claus during the final battle and claus trying to look around for her.and even despite what claus became through porky's brainwashing, all hinawa saw was her little boy and the smile he used to make.the part about wanting to show her kids a warm dream fits both too because hinawa telling claus to come to her in death fits showing him a warm dream.and it fits showing lucas the chapter 6 dream.>あたたかな ひとときと あたたかなゆみ みせたい>i want to show you a warm moment and a warm dreamand the ending of the song where she sings about "the ones who walk alone, let there be a light for them (to find their way)" fits both her kids too.the thing about the last part is japanese sometimes leaves the verb up to interpretation but i assume the あかりを part's omitted verb is something like 灯す (turn on a light) or 与える (give a light) which leads into the meaning of "let them find their way (because they're lost and walk a path alone).>ただひとり みちをゆく ちいさきものに あかりを>the ones who walk the path alone, let there be a light for these small ones it's obvious it can refer to both kids with this video too:https://youtu.be/0cEpqa2zUusit seems to also associate the calling to kids section with the part claus hears hinawa at the end.
>>732315759based OP
>Queen Mary often has nightmares. She talks like she's punishing a naughty child and then cries out about being afraid. Then she starts to sing a song, but only a short bit of it.
>>732315759I only played 3 hours a month ago, but honestly I was kinda blown away. It's simple, the battles are a bit sloggy, but it just really got my imagination going. I think it's awesome how completely open the game is. Even though it shouldn't matter what order I do tasks in, it felt really special to pave my way through how I wanted to. Idk, something about it just really felt nice compared to most modern games
>>732315759Earthbound is the worst of the three, so many tedious parts. The first few hours are the best.
you wouldnt have the other 2 without it.
>>732324371Yeah I assume mother1 would just be worse earthbound before playing it, but they're fundamentally different games. Earthbound is basically mother 1, but you're forced to interact with the world in very specific ways in a very specific order. Makes for a more polished but less immersive experience imo
>>732324691It also actually has a story unlike 2
>>732323685>teddy instead of loid at the endi gotta do that next time i play
>>732315759When I played the series in release order. Earthbound just wasn't as impressive after playing through Mother. Mother 3 is an entirely different story at least, but it is incredibly overrated
>>732316020earthbound's story is unironically worse
>>732324768>>732324919i always thought this was really strange but it could probably be chalked up to troubled development.
>>732324371Mother 1 is definitely a difficult game the whole way through, but Earthbound stops being fun at all after Fourside and Summers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBbRJoHTJAM
>>732322229>>732320680*taps sign*
>>732325250schizo
>>732319585It's exotic to the Japanese audience
>>732325441It's an observable phenomena.People trying to get into Earthbound are either casual retards with FOMO or hipsters who are bad at video games.Casual retards, they don't know what Mother 1 is. Nobody /they/ know talks about it. Their more familiar Undertale community never mentions it. Ninten isn't even in Smash Bros, for Sakurai's sake! So they ask around, searching for diehard Earthbound fans to tell them if Mother 1 is good, and...it turns out that EB Hipsters, Starman.net human refuge, Tomato worshippers and the like, these alleged Earthbound sages, are all fucking awful at video games and got their shit stomped HARD by M1. So they tell these new EB bandwagon jumpers to skip it, never play it, patch it if you do play it, etc. They do not respect Mother 1 and they do not like that Mother 1 was too difficult and too nonlinear for them. They try desperately to bury it, they'll tell you it's only a "rough draft of Earthbound and not worth playing". It's obvious as fuck whenever you encounter some wild EBnigger shilling some tileset pack or easy mode patch.
>>732325851excuse me, "Human refuse"
>>732319585>>732325808it's also earthly "mother earth" and ties into itoi's appreciation for the song "mother". he related it to it. and i think the feeling of that song is present in the mother games.>mommy don't go! daddy come home>you didn't need me but i needed you
M2 was my preferred game but M1 left a stronger impression on me. I thought it was just a port of Earthbound and it became one of my favorite RPG's. It felt better to progress in M1 too, and Mt. Itoi's music is one of the best songs on the NES period.
>>732324954A story is generally one of the first things you come up with though. I think it was just an odd choice, they probably wanted all these things to be open ended parallels to the equivalents from the first game
porky is the best character though and m2 introduced him. his story wouldn't be as good without his connection to ness and his arc in m2.m3 porky is half the character.
>>732315759After playing all 3. Mother 1 has the most heart and the best story and pacing. Love the challenge, too. But the others are great, too.
>>732326827i think m2 and m3 just take a while before they get good, whereas m1 starts out good. but i overall liked 2 and 3 more. but i also like them all. i don't hate any of them. i don't get how a fan can hate one of them but like the others. i sorta get why 3 is polarizing in japan but i still kinda disagree with it because it still feels like a mother game despite being the most different.
>>732323685Simple as can be...
Mother 1 is the most Spielberg of the games. It feels like an innocent adventure movie with some darker undertones and surprisingly sad moments. It evokes Americana the best imo, not just in the locations but in the overall tone of the game. I also had a similar emotional reaction to the Queen Mary plotline in Mother 1 that I had to Mother 3's ending, while the former had way less setup. Mother 2 was cool as well with its psychedelic theming but it didn't do that much for me and I liked Mother 3 overall but that game felt like an incoherent mess. >>732316674Totally agree, I wish more games let you just uncover a game's secret on your own.>>732319529Definitely, Mother 2 had the more experimental OST and 3's had greater scope, but Mother 1's songs are just so perfect. Just banger after banger of the some of the greatest songs on the NES.>>732320857This was most games at the time. Either you just fucked around for hours beating maybe the first half of the game without the help of a guide or a magazine since it was one of only 3 games you owned, or you got yourself a guide. Mother 1 also came with a full map anyways, I think
>>732325851None of these people actually play the games, they watch streamers play them. And Mother is the least suited for streaming so they assume it's shit
>>732316789Every RPG is a slot, anon. You literally cannot rush through an RPG with pure skill and intellect. It's a very linear, very controlled experience.
>>732324240No crying until the ending.
>>732326985give it some words and... sweet harmony...
>>732323430But he was wrong. The games aren't related at all. They don't even take place in the same universe.
>>732327348you won't understand who giygas/geeg is or why he's obsessed with power unless you play m1.
>>732327771M1 Giygas is about as related to M2 Giygas, it's like saying you need to play Super Mario Bros. 1 before playing 3
>>732321172For me, it's The Paradise Linehttps://youtu.be/cTVMhxeSQHg?si=7foQGeTEJ2djiM42
>>732327771Yes you will. They are completely different characters and you will only find confusion if you pretend otherwise. There is no sequence of events where Giegue "becomes" Giygas. This is in stark contrast to Pokey who is explicitly the exact same character in two different games and who ends up exactly where he was left off in the previous game. Just straightforward continuity, no autistic fantheory-tier logical leaps required.
>>732328095>They are completely different charactersThey're not. Why do you think M2 opens up with "Giegue Stikes Back"
>>732328157If that bullshit tagline is literally the only thing you're going by then it's a fucking weak reason to say the least. Play the games and you'll see otherwise.
>>732328241it's literally the full title of the game
>>732328241>If that bullshit tagline is literally the only thing you're going by then it's a fucking weak reason to say the least>first scene of the game>full title of the game>weak reasonPlayed all three. Same character, we just don't see his fall to madness because it happened off screen.
>>732328241The end of Mother literally has Giegue say he'll be back after you beat him with the lullaby and he leaves Earth. The second game states that he has returned. He has the same armies and methods i both games. You're genuinely just incorrect. May as well claim that Anakin Skywalker isn't Darth Vader because they don't look the same when you watch the movies.
>>732328298And? The two Giygases are like the recurring Ganons in Zelda. Zelda could be subtitled "Ganon strikes back" but it doesn't mean that they're the same Ganon or that the games take place in the same universe. This whole argument is giving me "Zelda Timeline" vibes and I'm starting to piece together these Nintendo franchises apparently being a magnet for autistic manchildren with overactive imaginations.>>732328319>we just don't see his fall to madness because it happened off screen.There's that autistic fantheory shit we talked about. I don't know how you can type that out and believe your own bullshit at this point.
>>732328095>>732328319geeg's story in the first game explains his descent. he was obsessed with power because his people were. he was supposed to finish off the earth people but couldn't because ninten, ana, and lloyd/teddy sang his childhood lullaby to him and reminded him of his mom, who was an earth person. so geeg swears he'll be back someday to finish the job. cue mother 2. geeg came back. this time, his mind is so warped he can't be swayed by his "mother's" lullaby. he is all powerful, but without his kind, he has nothing to save him. no memories of love leaves him with nothing. all you can do is put him out of his misery with the collective love of the earth people to defeat him save you. if you have people who live you, they'll save you even if they're not present. they're alwats with you, unlike with geeg because he chose power that corrupted himself over memories of his loving mother.
>>732328483>Zelda could be subtitled "Ganon strikes back" but it doesn't mean that they're the same GanonYeah it does. That's what striking back means
>>732328532fanfic slop
>>732328679Demonstrably wrong, but keep digging yourself deeper.
>>732328319Not him but can you really even say it's the same character at that point? George and Maria were integral parts of Giegue's character in 1, and they're never referenced at all in 2. 2 literally doesn't reference 1 at all in any meaningful way, and the only direct reference it was GOING to have (Porky taunting the party and asking if they were going to try singing Giygas a song) got removed in the final version.Mother 2 is basically a complete reboot of 1. Don't forget Mother 2 does fucking nothing with the teaser at the end of 1 with Ninten's dad. This isn't like Mother 2 and Mother 3 where it's an actual direct follow up, Porky is still Porky (or Pokey), in 3, and without playing 2 you lose a lot of context. For 1 and 2, Giegue/Giygas are completely different characters.>>732328532That's literally mostly headcanon and nothing in 1 implies Giegue was going insane. The reality is they just used Giegue/Giygas again because they probably thought the title sounded cool and they felt since the game was going to be a reboot they should reuse the villain. Mother 1 has not had a true follow up that actually carries on the story threads it left behind, and it never will because 2 rebooted the series and 3 carried on from 2's story.
>>732327189raise your voices all day long now love grows strong now... sing a melody of love... oh love
>>732328483Adventure of Link is LITERALLY a DIRECT SEQUEL to LoZ. It's game over has Ganon, the same one, return.
>>732328720>because 2 rebooted the seriesAnd you fucking DARE to claim anyone else is pushing headcanon fanfiction slop. Shut the fuck up, you've never touched these games.
>>732328720>George and Maria were integral parts of Giegue's character in 1, and they're never referenced at all in 2.NOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T FIT MY NARRATIVE OR MY FANTHEORY THAT I'VE ALREADY DECIDED IS TRUE!!!! TAKE THAT BACK YOU MEANIE!!!
>>732328720Yeah Earthbound is a soft reboot and Giygas is basically the only weak link back to the first game, but it's still the same character.>Don't forget Mother 2 does fucking nothing with the teaser at the end of 1 with Ninten's dadThat was only in the NoA version which didn't see the light of day until after Earthbound came out>>732328758There was also only one Ganon period until Four Swords Adventure.
>>732328386erm, anakin isn't vader in the original star wars THOUGHthat was one of the numerous retcons empire strikes back made, and retroactively made obi wan a liar
>>732328831You're saying exactly that, but against the words in the games themselves. It's some dumbfuck on /v/ vs Itoi himself. Not hard for anyone with a pulse to pick a side.
>without playing 2 you lose a lot of context. I don't agree with this, you don't really need to know who Pokey is to play Mother 3 either. He just shows up on Tazmily and starts wreaking havoc. It's no different from a generic plotline about an ancient evil awakening or something. The fact that it's later revealed to be him is just something for people who played the game before to go "oh neat, that's the guy from the last game", but the main plot is still Lucas' search for Claus. They could switch out Pokey with a new villain and it wouldn't functionally change anything.
>>732315759Since forever I guess, it was the one I first played and the only one I finished (multiple times).The next two always bore me before I can complete a playthrough.
I keep meaning to get around to Mother 1. How grindy is it?Also apparently at some point I downloaded the 25th anniversary romhack so is that good or should I play it as is?
>>732328830Nigga, Itoi literally said in interviews he made Ness look like Ninten so people could pretend it's him. Mother 1's events are not canon to Mother 2 and have no effect on the plot of Mother 2 at all, because that wasn't the goal of the developers when they were making 2. 3 is the only game that actually truly follows up on a previous game in the series.>>732328853It's not even a soft reboot, a soft reboot implies it takes place in the same universe or treats the previous game as canon. It's a full reboot. You can argue Gigyas is the same character, but it's only in name, and even if he is the same character it just brings up too many questions, like why does no one in the game reference the events of Mother 1? Why doesn't anything Buzz Buzz describes match up with the events of Mother 1? And the answer is there is Itoi didn't care because the game is a reboot. >That was only in the NoA version which didn't see the light of day until after Earthbound came out... Which was still added to the japanese GBA re-release, meaning it was most likely made by the Japanese development team.>>732329074The thing is, Porky is the same character in both. He isn't suddenly an incomprehensible embodiment of evil. And I have to disagree with nothing being lost, since New Porky City and Porky's attachment to the past doesn't work without the connection to Mother 2. Is it the main focus? No, but it is a notable theme of the game that only works because of a connection to 2. There's nothing like that with Mother 2's Giygas, you could completely rename him and say he's a new character and nothing is lost. Look, at the end of the day, none of this really matters. It's fun to theorycraft if 1 or 2 are connected but fans have put far more thought into that than the devs did. Giegue and Giygas being the same characters doesn't really do much to add to them as characters or to the themes of their games. It was probably just meant to be a fun reference.
>>732329131Fairly grindy but not as bad as I expected. It's pretty in line with other NES RPGs if you've played any. All English versions have an accessory to reduce weak encounters.>>732329131>Also apparently at some point I downloaded the 25th anniversary romhack so is that good or should I play it as is?I would play it as is, 25th alters the character sprites and some other things for no good reason. If the grind is too much most Earthbound Zero roms include an "easy ring" accessory which doubles EXP and money while reducing the encounter rate. It does make the game TOO easy in my opinion but it's a solid option if you don't like old RPG gameplay.
>>732329131>Also apparently at some point I downloaded the 25th anniversary romhack so is that good or should I play it as is?Play this version that retranslates the game. It's done by the same guy that translated MOTHER 3, so it's top quality stuff.https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5923/
>>732315759easily worst, only those starmen.net freaks think it's anything else
>>732329405>>732329442Thanks I'll give it a shot. Is there anything particularly wrong with the GBA version? The L shortcut thing alone honestly sounds like something I'm gonna want
>>732329551The GBA version's music sounds like ASS and Mother 1 is known for having one of the best soundtracks on the famicom. Personally, I think the NES version is the best. I never was bothered by the grinding.
I wonder what this could have led to
was mother 3 inspired by evangelion?
>>732329285>itoi said he made ness look like ninten so people could headcanon them as the same if they wantand itoi gave geeg the same name in mother 2. why name m2's villain geeg if he is different?all the m2 characters have different default names to the m1 characters except geeg.
mother 3 would've been a trip to play through blind but also the only reason it interested me was because of the spoilery content.
>>732329994Because it's just a dumb reference and you aren't supposed to think further than that. And even if they're the same character, the games don't take place in the same universe and Giygas probably hopped universes. That's the only real explanation that makes sense as to why nothing that happened in 1 is ever referenced in 2.I'd be more willing to believe there was supposed to be a genuine connection if that beta rom with the porky line I mentioned before didn't leak, it pretty much shows they deliberately removed all direct references to 1 they could because they didn't want any new players with 2 feeling like they were missing something. And Mother 2 was probably better off for it, what does the game gain by being connected to 1? Not really anything. It's better as its own thing that tackles its own themes, and I think trying to connect 1 and 2 sort of makes you miss the point of the themes both games are trying to get across with their endings.
>>732328720>>732329826Reminder that this was only added in the English localization and not by Itoi, the original Famicom release has no ending cutscene and just plays the credits at the scene with Giygas.
>>732330228so it's like the devs originally meant for m2 geeg to explicitly be the same as m1 geeg "no question". but they removed the explicit dialogue reference so new players wouldn't be alienated and could headcanon what they want.but m2 geeg was made with the intention of being the same as m1 geeg? the removed dialogue is an after thought?
Videogames are for autistic manchilds
>>732330398and? this is fucking /v/. saying vidya is for autistic adults with arrested development is like going into a theater and telling everyone "theaters are for watching movies".
>>732330467Yes, that's also correct
Did you forget about the Forgotten Man?
>>732330264OBJECTION!The scene is in the GBA port of Mother 1+2, as can be seen here: https://youtu.be/uma21582cZg?si=zQKCNp3nkxA5UiN7&t=3133This implies that it was either originally made by the Japanese developers, likely because the extra time 1's localization was taking gave them the ability to work on it, or they saw it and liked it enough to add it to a later port themselves. I personally believe NoA would not have had the coding talent to create this entire ending sequence themselves, I believe the Japanese development team made it for the English release, but since it never ended up actually releasing, they re-used it for the later GBA port.
I USED TO THINK I WAS SO SMARTI COULDN'T HIDE THE HOLE IN MY HEART
>>732329603I agree that the music sounds worse, but I just fiddled around a bit and fuck me does the GBA version control so much better. I don't know what's causing it but the NES overworld movement feels like utter shit
Is this the worst name entry interface ever made?
Mt. Itoi was kino, the people who say it's too hard are the types that expect to just breeze through a JRPG without thinking
>>732330527According to Random Unsourced Webpage from 20 years ago, Phil Sandhop sort of implied that all of the changes made for the localization of Mother 1 were made by the original Japanese team and/or approved by themhttp://www.lostlevels.org/200407/200407-earthbound2.shtml>An interesting revelation is that all of the actual graphic edits and gameplay improvements to EarthBound were actually implemented by the original Japanese development team. Sandhop elaborates on this: "As a general rule with games produced by NCL, the development teams continue to work and tweak their projects that they know will be localized and produced in other territories. Often they will address their own desires that were not completed due to time constraints or not completed to their satisfaction and they will also address issues raised by Japanese consumers as that release hits the street. If you can find a real source that he actually said that then that'd be your explanation.
>>732330668Played around some more and I'm definitely using the GBA version. The music is far from the worst I've seen on the GBA and the control improvements more than make up for it
>>732315759It's the only Mother game I haven't beaten. I loaded it up one time and it seemed so incredibly rudimentary that I turned it off and have never played it again. Maybe the EarthBound Beginnings version would appeal more to me.
>>732331075That pretty much tracks. NoA's teams probably only knew enough coding knowledge to make the required text edits, and even games like Startropics that never released in Japan were still developed by Japanese development teams. I can't think of any case of NoA themselves actually adding content to a game.
>>732330938Yeah, it was fun. I drew my own maps as I went so I didn't get lost.
Always nice to see some appreciation for this game, gotta love all the odd art and models and stuff for it really compliments the game.
basically, someone posted about how tazmily is a utopia because everyone agrees to act out a delusion but it falls apart the moment someone enters who doesn't agree to play along.idk if you're here, guy, but it ocurred to me that porky's city is basically the same. a utopia he has for himself that only works because he brainwashes everyone to go along with his delusions. it falls apart the moment a party who doesn't agree to play along enters.
Repostan, anyone worked out the ideal way to play the Mother series yet? Recently I've been trying>Listen to George Best - The Wedding Present>Play through The Cave of The Past to encountering Giygas (Earthbound)>Play Chapter 1 - Night of the Funeral (Mother 3)>Play from the game start until the first Magicant trip (Mother)>Play Chapter 4 - Club Titiboo in Mother 3, up until Lucas and Boney leave Tazmily>Play from rescuing Paula up until Milky Well (Earthbound)>Play from the first Magicant trip to Duncan's Factory (Mother)>Play Chapter 4 - Club Titiboo until the end of it THEN play Chapter 2 - Thief Adventure (Mother 3)>Play from post-Milky Well up until entering Moonside (Earthbound)>Play from Duncan's Factory until reaching Rosemary Manor in Spookane (Mother)>Listen to Bizarro - The Wedding Present>Play Chapter 5 - Tower of Thunder and Chapter 7 - The Seven Needles up until the Chimera Lab (Mother 3)>The big MOTHER push - Play from Rosemary Manor until Eve is destroyed on Mt Itoi (Mother)>Play from Moonside up until the Lost Underworld (Earthbound)>Play Chapter 3 - The Suspicious Peddler followed by the rest of Chapter 7 (Mother 3)>Play from The Lost Underworld up until Ness enters Magicant (Earthbound)>Play from Eve's destruction until JUST BEFORE playing Maria the melodies (Mother)>Play Chapter 8 up until going up the elevator in the Empire Porky Building (Mother 3)>Listen to Seamonsters - The Wedding Present>Play until the end of Magicant (Earthbound)>Play Maria the melodies (Mother)>Play Chapter 8 up until the final Porky fight (Mother 3)>Finish Mother>Play Earthbound up until entering the Phase Distorter>Play Chapter 6 - Sunflowers (Mother 3)>Play Earthbound from the start until rescuing Paula (Earthbound)>Finish Earthbound>Finish Mother 3
>>732332891>play m1>play m2>play m3ftfy
>>732315759Anyone who claims this has only played the romhack which makes the game easier or more likely than not just watched the story on Youtube and pretends to have played it
>>732315759can you niggers stop pretending you actually played this game and enjoyed it?
>>732333027>he needs to make it easierYeah it's something of a challenge and not a baby bitch cakewalk, deal with it.
>>732315759Dropped after 5 minutes. NES RPGs are by and large unplayable
>>732332737deep
>harass your neighbor in the middle of the night to help you save your little brother who you abandoned>use your neighbor as a shield all the way on the path to get your brother back>see that your neighbor is supposed to be chosen to go a great journey or something>get home and get punished for going out so late>go join a cult and harass your neighbor some more>try to apologize but he ignores you so you run off>get rich and powerful JUST so you can harass your neighbor some more>call him a loser the next time you see him to let him know you're better than him>steal a helicopter JUST so your neighbor can't use it>steal a time travel machine and ally up with an eldritch horror, gaining unintentional immortality in the process, JUST so you can go harass your neighbor some more and let him know that you're cooler than him>send him a taunting letter JUST to harass him some more and let him know what a loser he is>travel through time so much your body gets fucked up but at least you're cooler than your neighbor>set up an empire in some unknown land and make the servers in your restaurant cook your loser neighbor's favorite food>keep that loser's yo-yo as a special keepsake guarded by your robot maid>set up games to play with some blonde loser and only let him proceed if he lets "you" win but gives enough of a challenge that makes you feel accomplished>brainwash everyone into agreeing with you>decide to destroy the world and kill everyone who doesn't like you because it's all hollow anyway>get stuck inside your fucked up manchild body and trapped in a tiny capsule where you can't do anything>but at least you won and you're safe from everyone else>you're the coolest motherfucker who ever lived>WAY cooler than that loser, ness
mother 3 is one of the most beautiful and melancholic games i've ever played
>>732315759When I grew up and realized the series as a whole doesn't deserve the recognition it gets from nostalgia goggled people.
>>732316081Sorry son, I went to get a pack of smokes but can't get the brand I like for over 25 years. Just be a good boy and wait a little longer for your FATHER, okay?
>>732334227Played these games a few years ago, so like 20+ years plus since they game out. 2 and 3 are fantastic. Also who the fuck has nostalgia goggles for Mother 3 outside of japan? And earthbound sold like shit originally, it's not really nostalgia keeping them relevant
I'll wait for the remake
>>732327118Clearly you haven't played superior FF titles such as VI, VII and VIII, or SMT series, including Persona.
>>732334421nta but i have nostalgia for m2 and m3 because i discovered them 13 years ago. i only played m1 recently.
>>732334470Earthbound shits on mid VI, that game falls off hard in the second half. VII was close to perfect for a JRPG outside of the materia hunt padding though, I'll give you that
>>732333027I played the Japanese version with no repel accessories and no magicant bank and think it's the best. I just love the atmosphere so much.
itoi sold official merch with lucas mooning everybody
>>732334470FF is an irredeemable trash franchise (other than V) and its fans are somehow even bigger soiboys than Mother fans
>>732315759It was after playing through the series once more. MOTHER was the last game of the three I originally played, and I liked it better in the end because in comparison to the other games, it allows the player to explore the world more even if the big open fields will offer nothing but aesthetic value at the end of things.The visual that the game shows of a bunch of kids exploring the world while trying to solve a ''supernatural mystery'' as they travel a rural america in the 80's is just good, I don't know if it's because of the simplicity of the story or there's another combination with the charming music and simple designs.Sure, the fights are brutal most of the time, the inventory is very small, the factories suck and MT Itoi was left purposefully unbalanced, but I still like the game for what it is.https://youtu.be/6jpKS31oJNIhttps://youtu.be/Ga_RF_mRZKw
>>732336093Mother 1 is relatively gloomy and serious so I would say the oppressive gameplay actually enhances the experience. The game has one hell of an atmosphere to it.
>>732315759when seer uploaded his challenge run
