Is stealth archer actually that popular?
It is if you're part of the "path of least resistance" gamers that make up so many of our population inabke to rotate apples in their mind and have an internal monologuznzom,
>>732317353it is the easiest way to play oblivion
>>732317443did you have a seizure midway or is a nigger tickling your anus?>>732317353only because bethesda refuses to let a better company fix their gameplay
>>732317353I mean even if you arent full in on stealth archer its not like its a bad idea to open up a fight by shooting one the guys when he isnt looking.
>>732317353Yes because the best way to enjoy Skyrim's combat is to participate in it the least amount as possible.And the *THUNK* sneak attack sound is always satisfying.
>>732317532Magic is actually the easiest.Why waste time trying to sneak and aim when you can just zap a retard with an overpowered spell you made? By the off chance that you get inflicted with anything you can quickly just pop a potion or use a cure spell. If you want to actually engage with melee combat you can also buff yourself including using a shield spell that makes all attacks made on you almost useless.
People don't decide to play it because it's fun. Elder Scrolls doesn't force you to use a specific build, so "stealth archer" is naturally something most people will end up gravitating to if they try to play efficiently. You'll naturally want to pick off an enemy or two at a range before jumping into combat since all you can really do against multiple opponents is swing wildly and outlast them. And naturally, you'll want to enter stealth for the automatic damage bonus since you haven't been detected yet anyway. And if that first target happens to die without anyone else being alerted, naturally you'll want to do the same thing to the next guy. Then next thing you know, all those skills have leveled up to where you'd be dumb not to keep using them.
>game setting with unbelievable magic>Can throw one (1) slow fireball every 2 seconds >Can swing your sword back and forth like a stick >Can only shoot one arrow at a time
>>732317781also i forgot to mention but if you run out of magicka it doesn't matter because a good wizard is always prepared with a shit ton of potions that he most likely made himself.
>>732317781>Why waste time trying to sneak and aim when you can just zap a retard with an overpowered spell you made?Mages guild recommendation takes time and shoot faggot in the ass for 2x damage + poison is an extremely strong playstyle from fresh out of sewers.Most people don't take the time to learn about weakness stacking or anything either so the spells they'd make wouldn't actually be that great in practice. >>732317443 is right in that it is literally the path of least resistance.
Damage multipliers are pretty good.
>>732317951i should have clarified, magic is actually the easiest assuming you aren't completely brain dead which I suppose most gamers are.
>>732317781>Spell you made>In OblivionYou didn't play the game.
>>732317353I like to mix it up in TES games and they usually allow that pretty well. Never understood how people can just play one way for 60+ hours.
Archery is slow and boring. stealth dagger is fun
>>732318068spellcrafting is one of the reasons oblivion and morrowind are superior to skyrim. at this point I wouldn't be surprised if elder scrolls 6 doesn't have alchemy but i don't want to give tard howard any ideas.
>>732317443>>732317532When I play stealth archer my primal instincts and ancestral memories of stalking game with a bow are doing the decision making, not the gameplay mechanics,
>>732318047Magic is fun if you intentionally avoid direct damage stuff.>Make one guy rage and attack his bros>Hit a survivor with the same spell>Repeat until one guy is left>Hit him with a calm spell>While he talks about the weather slip a poison in his pocket that does makes him shit out his bones instantly
>>732317353its unironically op in fantasy and irl if you are good at it
>>732318209Only using the premade spells and vanilla gear was the patrician way to play Oblivion. It was stupid easy to break it by playing it any other way and even then you had a good chance of breaking the game.
>>732318303Using paralysis and calm spells are the most fun I ever had playing oblivion
>>732317353Stealth archers are a failure of game design. People fall back on stealth archers because there are too many enemies and/or combat is tedious. Stealth archers are a way to skip a combat encounter. If people want to skip your combat encounters in a game about combat and it isn't in an intentionally infuriating area then you've failed as a developer.
>>732317353No, not really. It only reached meme status in Skyrim becuase you could exploit sneak up to 100 easily on a essential NPC.
for me, it's melee + summons. melee feels a bit shit by itself, especially in oblivion with how spongy mobs get as they scale up
>>732317443It’s the same people who use sniper rifles in games
>>732318387If you shoot someone with an arrow in real life they're gonna start screaming bloody murder
>>732317353Only in Skyrim because destruction magic is crap and melee takes smithing and enchanting investment. Multiple stealth shots just delete enemies right away and also max out your sneak real quick.If Oblivion had a similar meme it would be about being a spellsword.In Morrowind, cast on use enchantments were the best. I always silt stridered to Gnisis, killed the two ladies for the Amulet of Shadows, and with that enemies mostly do nothing except run away from you.
>>732317781Just using invisibility magic and sneaking around is better than fighting considering the abhorrent level scaling.
>>732317781>spell you madetake a lot of work to get to that point, even then the magicka requirement is still at play>use a cure spell2 seconds of getting hit in the face>shield spellvery magicka expensive, and your spell alone won't get you to reach a level of tank a orc with heavy armor can have at 100% uptime. If you count gears then every class can wear enchanted shit with Shield anyway>shit ton of potions that he most likely made himselfnigga everyone can take alchemy to heal or buff their weapon, have fun hoarding 100 lavenders and spend it all in 1 Oblivion gateJust accept it, magic is literally the most "difficult" playstyle due the amount of effort you have to put in alone, destruction build scales terribly the higher the difficulty
>>732317593>someone makes a couple spergy typo>immediately start thinking of gay niggers fondling anuses??????
>>732317532I don't remember stealth archery actually being good in Oblivion specifically unless you had 100% Chameleon or some shit, which then nearly everything bursts at the seams. You get one sneak attack in and the whole room is alerted. Maybe the remaster is different but I had more luck with shock spells, the Mages Guild staff with that element is competent but it's also a leveled item.
>>732321267>spell you made>take a lot of work to get to that point,some $2k candles and the frostcrag spire dlc
>>732317353It's just because Skyrim is poorly designed. Melee sucks ass and isn't satisfying either. Damaging spells are just flamethrowers and also suck.
>>732321267>2 seconds of getting hit in the faceNigga you're a mage, you're not wearing armor so you get 100% spell effectiveness, you should have feather up because it's cheap as fuck. You're fast as fuck, juke those fucking attacks.
I'm gonna say it bros, I tried Oblivion Remastered, and the enemy archer/mage ranged tracking isn't as tight as it was in OG, and I feel a little sad I don't have to do the A+D shuffle anymore.
>>732317353>Is stealth sniper/marksman actually that popular?
>>732321730Destruction magic largely sucks when you can barely boost your damage output while enemy health gets inflated out the ass. And until you can crank your resists up, the enemy mages in turn do absurd amount of damage with some of those same spells after a given point.
>>732321730what about dual casted spells?
>>732317532Stealth archer is Skyrim. Oblivion is inevitable Spellsword because magic is its own hotkey rather than requiring you to equip it to a hand like in Skyrim.
>>732317781Magicka regenerates faster out of combat
It's top tier fun in pvp. In elderscrolls online you could (with the correct build), one shot/combo nearly any non tank from a mile away. I long to go back to those days. So much salt was harvested with so little effort. It was ganker paradise.
