Any well born person hates new vegas. It's not even canon, so who gives a fuck.

>>732320767
isn't everything canon?

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>hey we destroyed and slopified the west coast but uh here is one last member berry

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>>732320442
The bullets trajectory isn't even aligned with the muzzle...

>>732320442
So in the end, the NCR and Legion are going to fight over the Mojave.........again.

Shouldn't the NCR take Hoover Dam first?

this show sucks

>>732320442
I like that they managed to demolish Caesar's entire characterization with a single piece of paper.

>>732321105
People say this but I can envision him being so pissed off his tribals didn't learn anything and failed to take the Mojave that he gave them all a collective middle finger. I also don't mind the Home Alone guy, he's decent in this role.

>>732321105
Ceasar really should have made a Legion Senate before going to Nevada.

>dude we ruined the franchise but look at this le reference! Cool helmet dude sniping guy! Isn't this iconic?
Bethesda care about Fallout only in the most superficial sense. Veteran Rangers having a recognisable, marketable look is "good for the brand" in the same way Nuka Cola, the BoS, deathclaws, Vaults and vaultsuits, Dogmeat, Mr Handy's and so on are: meaningless props attached to an IP that can sell merch. That's all Fallout is now: a brand to sell merch and increase profits.

>>732320442
>Caesar is ruined
>House is ruined
>Legion and NCR still fighting over Vegas
>Liberty Prime again (somehow)
>The wasteland was the experiment all along!

Jesus Christ.

>>732321241
>but I can envision him being so pissed off his tribals didn't learn
The whole point of him taking Vegas was that they could you retarded secondary.

I also thought that scene was kino.
I also hate modern society and television, but I recognize a good idea. I thought the intros for FNV were shitty, but I enjoyed the reference and how it was placed.

>>732320442
People who think this is good are the same level as capeshit enjoyers who think those flicks have any level of quality because
>why it looks like the super heroes from my 8-10 year old audience silly guy cartoons
>never mind the production quality, lackluster juvenile story or caliber of actor and dialogue delivery
>they just have to look like the cartoon characters

>>732320442
This shit was so fucking cringe.
>NCR comes in and does nothing, yet again.
>Everyone cheering and celebrating as the waterbarons who have thus far done nothing and taxed the shit out of them return to do nothing and tax the shit out of them again.

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>>732320442
>NCR holds the western Mojave and everything west of it
>Legion holds eastern Mojave and everything east of it
>House is in control of the Strip for his tower
So they literally just reset everything to the start of NV?

>>732320767
>Well born
Is that what they call it in your caste based society Raj?

>>732321379
The Enclave fired the nukes and now have to constantly find people who aren't irradiated to help rebuild the country.......that they just nuked.

Good Job?

>>732321406
No, the point was an erroneous idea of thesis-antithesis. Caesar believed by amassing enough tribals and giving them a unified banner, no matter how phony, he could crash them into the NCR so hard that it dislodged all the corruption. His theory was Might would make Right and in the end any survivors would produce a stronger civilization superior to his Legion or the corrupt NCR. If Caesar's Legion failed to do that twice then I could see this bitter old man taking a gambit as ridiculous as deifying himself with a mysterious note (the 2fort set-up is stupid, I agree) and providing the "winner" of that squabble with the bare naked truth. In that sense I believe Macalauy's character could be decent. He was also fine as an actor in his scenes.

>>732321406
Exactly this. The whole *raison d'être* of Caesar's plan was molding tribals into something more through the Legion-with Vegas as the keystone of that vision. If he truly believed they were unworthy after one failure, he wouldn't have spent decades building them up in the first place. The showrunners clearly skimmed his backstory off a wiki and called it a day.

>>732320959
I don't think showrunners know what NCR and Legion were fighting for to begin with.

>>732321504
Yes, and hey its the map they used for that one episode.

>>732321669
>If he truly believed they were unworthy after one failure, he wouldn't have spent decades building them up in the first place.
It was two failures. It also seems Legate Lanius isn't even alive anymore, he probably died at the second battle of Hoover Dam since Home Alone is wearing his armor.

>>732320808
76 is not canon, or at least nobody is going to acknowledge it

>>732321637
>No, the point was an erroneous idea of thesis-antithesis. Caesar believed by amassing enough tribals and giving them a unified banner, no matter how phony, he could crash them into the NCR so hard that it dislodged all the corruption.
No he was making a new nation seperate from it and after taking Vegas he would have made it his Rome and used allowed for the Legion to set down roots and then go onto conquer the NCR, both of those things would have been done for the sake of the Legion living past him so again it doesn't make sense that they did that and its clear they didn't play the fucking game.

>>732321669
Not to mention they lost in the first battle so its not the first failure.

>>732321875
Be real the faggots that wrote this trash dont even know who Lanius is. There is not a single Legion character from the games in this shit outside of Caesar.

>>732320901
recoil

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>>732320767
>well born

>>732320442
I wish he did. Troon Vegas fans are the most annoying part of the Fallout fandom. Spent the whole damn season whining and dining about how their factions weren't being represented when pretty much every one got at least one dedicated episode. It should have instead just been a proper season of humiliation for NVfags where the Legion all dies of AIDS for a gay sex orgy and the NCR actually remain dead plus are now considered a joke in the wasteland, and Mr. House is a synth.

>>732321950
>taking Vegas he would have made it his Rome and used allowed for the Legion to set down roots and then go onto conquer the NCR
And how would this have happened exactly? Hoover Dam is useless to the Legion. Lake Mead is a big source of fresh water I guess. The crops in the area are maintained by towns and groups who would realistically rather die than support Caesar, especially Westside. Freeside is a shithole with basically nothing worth looting, not that the Legion would use any Followers medicine or Kings hair grease. Any appeal Vegas itself possesses relies upon electric lights and gambling, two things Caesar fucking banned. The only thing Vegas would have realistically turned into is another set of ruins like Denver for the Legion to cover in crucified skeletons and the Mojave itself is not lush with anything Caesar would use, which is exactly one of the things you can tell Lanius to make him go home.

>>732322119
Behold the average defender of the show, whether shill or consumer they both say the same dumb shit.
>pent the whole damn season whining and dining
Shit pun that doesnt make sense.
>about how their factions weren't being represented when pretty much every one got at least one dedicated episode
And they were not properly represented in the episodes do you think something being done poorly is good if there is an entire episode to it?
>It should have instead just been a proper season of humiliation for NVfags where the Legion all dies of AIDS for a gay sex orgy and the NCR actually remain dead plus are now considered a joke in the wasteland
Imagine crying about criticism while being this much of a vitriolic faggot.

The Kings deserved better.

>>732322132
>And how would this have happened exactly
So you didn't play the game, gotcha.
https://youtu.be/U53WbYUBWwI?si=IALvoDWFUW_xP1mo&t=1071

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>>732322387
No no no. You don't get to link a Youtube video. You either explain to me how Caesar's plan to turn New Vegas into "his Rome" would actually work, or you're out.

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>>732322527
May I use your bathroom?

>>732320442
>>732271104

>>732322527
>please spoon feed me on something I would have known if I had played the game
Get fucked secondary, go back to /tv/

>>732320767
>well born
good morning sir, do not redeem the new vegas, do the needful and redeem the fallout 3

>>732321241
Caesar's view of history is so antithetical to "I am the Legion". He excuses his own atrocities by describing them as an inevitably on the long arc of history. The thing is that the show superficially understands this, there was that whole line early on in the season where Home Alone says something like
>good and evil is not a meaningful vector on the course of history
But the writer's didn't really internalize what that meant.

>>732320959
Caesar said he wanted NV as a capitol city, his mooks are simply doing what he claimed to want

>>732321105
thesis, antithesis and synthesis

>>732321875
>>732322062
My assumption was the mean looking "Caesar" was Lanius who took over leadership of his faction of the Legion

>>732322614
I'm pretty sure you are the secondary. You were asked a bunch of logical questions by a fan of the game and just decided to link an ending slide that doesn't explain any of it. People like this game because it makes you think critically, if you're going to pretend you like it then you need to learn to do that!

>>732322638
Part of the reason I'm forgiving of Home Alone's role in the show is that Caesar leaving a bitter stupid note in his pocket does not feel wholly out of character. Like I said earlier, I believe he might take two losses at Hoover Dam extremely badly and this is his last ditch effort to prove thesis-antithesis correct.
>If I take the mythos build around me and collide it with the harsh truth it's all phony, someone strong enough to accept that will lead my Legion and actually accomplish synthesis
It's not an idea without potential. The show is written by morons like Todd but this idea is not the worst. It is of course undermined by the Legion playing ctf_2fort of course.

>>732322796
>no u are the secondary
I hit the nail on the head it seems.
>You were asked a bunch of logical questions by a fan of the game and just decided to link an ending slide that doesn't explain any of it
It did since you said people would rather die than be under the legion but most ended up submitting and then I told you to play the game since he tells you the reason and the point in it. And all you can do now is insult me and cry that I wont spoon feed you. Tell you what, either prove you played the game or admit you didn't and I will explain it.

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>>732322062
That's probably the biggest tragedy of this. New Vegas has so many characters people would've loved to see more of, if done competently.
If I were making a Fallout TV series set in the Mojave, and it included the Legion, you can be damned sure I'm gonna give Vulpes Inculta a major role. There's so much of the character that's just vaguely implied in-game. Why wouldn't you want to explore that?

>>732320808
They're doing this weird shit where none of the games endings are canon so you don't have to feel obligated to do the "true ending". If the show was based in DC it probably would've had the wasteland water poisoned and the Enclave still destroyed.

>>732322708
>My assumption was the mean looking "Caesar" was Lanius who took over leadership of his faction of the Legion
If that was Lanius then he would not have taken off the armor and Culkinus would be fucking dead right now. There is a reason he became Legate and its because he is an absolute monster.

>>732322934
I figured Culkin would be Vulpes, and his attitude and general behavior of being a somewhat smarmy psycho makes it feel like it should have been the case.

>>732323005
Yeah, the same guy who got a lecture about logistics and ran away without even throwing a punch is "an absolute monster". Sorry buddy, he simply is not according to NV's writer(s).

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>>732321534
>>732322108
>>732322625
jesus christ. just because you are an aberration to this space does not make us all freaks. the internet expanding to the second and third world was a grave mistake that caused catastrophic, irreversible damage.

I feel like we could have skipped New Vegas and gone straight to Colorado.

>>732321534
jesus christ stop thinking about indians I fucking beg you

>>732322796
>Like I said earlier, I believe he might take two losses at Hoover Dam extremely badly and this is his last ditch effort to prove thesis-antithesis correct.
Eh. I think this is a stretch to say the least. Maybe this might have worked if Caesar was, you know, like an actual character in the show. Or if the events of New Vegas had received a closer look over. Then I could imagine the writers could build out an interpretation where Caesar had done it for this or that reason. But as it is, the note makes Caesar come off as a retarded warlord when his entire ideology in game was that the Legion was an inevitable historical force and even to some extent suffered for his leadership of it.

>>732323167
>Colorado
Tabitha and Rhonda made their way there if you fixed Rhonda in crazy, crazy , crazy
Imagine if they were even to remember and mention that...

>>732323132
I see youre one of those memecucks that hasnt played the game and just repeats shit he sees faggots on r/fallout say. He was the only person in his tribe that wanted to fight against the legion and when he couldn't fight anymore Caesar came to him and made him and offer to lead his troops. He agreed on the condition he could kill all the elders for the cowardice and Caesar agreed. Go be a reductive faggot somewhere else.

>>732323078
>In Nipton, we gathered the men into the center of town. They clinged to their lotto tickets as we had them ascend the stairs, even in their last moments as the paint bucket swung down and slammed against their faces, they still held out hope that they alone would survive.

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>>732323325
Good shit anon

>>732323305
>He was the only person in his tribe that wanted to fight against the legion and when he couldn't fight anymore Caesar came to him and made him and offer to lead his troops. He agreed on the condition he could kill all the elders for the cowardice and Caesar agreed
So how do you resolve that with a mailman being able to talk him down and get him to retreat without fighting at all?

>>732323412
>So how do you resolve that with a mailman being able to talk him down and get him to retreat without fighting at all
Because one situation was a matter of capitulation while the other is about general survival? Again play the game reddit cuck.

>>732323482
>one situation was a matter of capitulation while the other is about general survival
Sounds like he's not a monster at all then and all the bluster about him being so was bullshit.

>>732323548
Sounds like you're being purposely obtuse because you cant handle being wrong and will just say a faggy cope no matter what explanation you get.

>>732323412
The courier option was into making the legate believe that the coming battle was gonna lead the legion into a slow death by attrition or that there was a trap being set up, the lanius was all up into this final confrontation bullshit and those ideas appeased him into preserving his force and moving back to their land

>>732320442
THEY MADE A REFERENCE EVERYONE KNOWS RELATED TO THE GAME
THAT MEANS THEY LIKE IT AND AREN'T JUST JINGLING KEYS IN THE FACE OF THE FANBASE
I CLAPPED

>>732322934
The show is such wasted potential. Even when there are parts that I like, all I can think is "they unceremoniously deleted the NCR for this?" At the very least, it seems the show is backpedaling hard on just flattening the setting into Borderlands with nukes, but it's also clear that even if the show understands what it is working with for the Legion and NCR, the writer's still don't really understand what makes these factions tick.

>>732323595
>Sounds like you're being purposely obtuse
You looking at a mirror? I'm asking you to resolve conflicting aspects of his written character and you can't.

>>732323548
...I presume the TV Show explicitly said the speech tactic was the canon outcome of that encounter?

>>732323157
>quoting a literal nazi
what was the point of that?

>>732323652
>no u
Why is it that fags that redditcuck act like fucking children every time they lose? Swallow your pride and stop being a bitch.
>I'm asking you to resolve conflicting aspects
I did and you just gave a faggy cope and are now crying that I called you out for it.

>>732323628
Lanius can still beat the shit out of the Courier without pressing further into NCR territory. The fact that he didn't proves he's not the "monster" the game purports him to be and if he's more clever than he is supposed to be and is using his reputation as a boogieman to instill fear into his enemies then the LAST thing he should do is show up on a battlefield and then run away from his enemy after they explain logistics to them.

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>>732323841
>this serial killer spared one guy for pragmatic reasons so he is not that bad even though he has skinned and skull fucked about two dozen people

>>732323412
One, there are conflicting accounts about Lanius. The whole point is that he is a larger than life figure that is little more than a symbol of the Legion's brutality to anybody who hears of him. Two, the Mojave campaign is specifically Caesar's desire. Ask yourself what the Legion actually gets at all from the Mojave in its current state. It gets a bunch of civilized territory that is going to be a challenge to administrate over, a bunch of electricity that up until this point the Legion has not had a use for, and like some casinos. Lanius is really only interested in the Mojave insofar as he gets to break the NCR and establish the Legion as the top dogs; but if he's just going to die by attrition after if the Legion is not prepared, it's not really something worth doing. And Lanius really is not stupid, especially not militarily, he has the experience to know what a death trap the Mojave is specifically for the Legion. For Lanius, it's pulling out, consolidating his forces, then returning with an army actually capable of occupying the Mojave.

>>732323675
No. The point is based on people trying to argue that Lanius is essentially two different characters whether you fight him or use speech on him he's less a character and more a horribly written plot device.

>>732323731
>I did
You didn't so thanks for conceding the argument.

>>732323841
Intruding upon this topic, but what's the point? He's 'short' of his reputation when put to a real test? That's supposed to be a game breaker or something?

>>732320808
Honestly, every game is non canon. They all take place in their own separate reality

>>732320442
todd or bethesda has fuckall to do with that woke series

>>732323921
Plot Device. Plot Device never changes.

>>732323907
>spared one guy for pragmatic reasons
There's nothing pragmatic about letting your enemy live to fight another day. Either Lanius is as badass as he thinks he is or he doesn't show up on the battlefield to get punked out.

>>732323951
I did here >>732323482
and you just went back to crying he wasn't a monster even though he has still killed and brutalized a shit load of people. For fucksake the radio talks about him personally performing decimations.

>>732323912
see >>732323921 and >>732324018

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>>732324018
>there is nothing pragmatic about retreating and making sure your forces don't die in a slow war of attrition

>>732323968
see >>732324069

>>732324042
No you didn't because you still haven't resolved >>732324018

>>732323968
He is certainly trying to push both of those things yes.

Episode 5 was a high point because I thought maybe a thing or two would pay off.
Literally nothing did.

I'd love to see what they wrote up as Norm's arc this season. If you write out the things that happened, it just boggles the mind how little is there. In a video game it would be a 10 minute segment.

>>732324150
see >>732324096

>>732324096
The only thing in his way at that point is the Courier as shown by them having a nice little talk before they try to kill each other or Lanius bitches out of a fight despite being an "absolute monster"

>>732324195
see >>732324195

>>732324198
>>732324239
>The only thing in his way at that point is the Courier
No what's in his way is the rest of the NCR since he intends to go straight for them after conquering Vegas. But good job showing you didnt play the game dipshit

>>732324113
I see everyone's on the spectrum about this, given that he is as close as anyone gets to a non-DLC Final Boss, and as such needs to be dealt with via multiple means depending on the build of your character and your playstyle. As much as using Speech Checks to finesse your way out of a fight seems to break character... well, shit. Welcome to Open World ambiguity.

>>732324253
>what's in his way is the rest of the NCR since he intends to go straight for them after conquering Vegas
He literally does not need to push further into the NCR if he fights the Courier. On the other hand if he runs away from the Courier that just makes him look bitchmade and his vaunted reputation is no longer that.

>>732324343
>He literally does not need to push further into the NCR if he fights the Courier
You really didn't play the game, did you?

>>732324343
And so it isn't. So what's your Endgame after that point?

>>732324343
>He literally does not need to push further into the NCR
Yet he wants to because it is both Caesar's goal and he wants to fight them himself. Which you would know if you played the game.
>On the other hand if he runs away from the Courier that just makes him look bitchmade
You got your answer and since you cant argue all you can do is cry and repeat yourself.

>>732324261
Simple solution: instead of convincing Lanius you convince other members of the Legion that charging into NCR territory is suicidal while Lanius calls them all cowards and tries to kill them which results in... a Legion civil war.
Next thing you know the Legion is decimated and can no longer push into the NCR regardless of who wins.

>>732324390
You think he would be pushing this if he did? I wonder if he will say he's pretending to be retarded when he realizes he cant bullshit out of this.

>>732324390
Did you? Do you understand the whole point of the logistics speech is about trying to conquer the entirety of the NCR rather than just winning at Hoover Dam?

>>732324417
see >>732324495

>>732324495
Sounds like something that would've been set up prior to the battle(and requires a more fleshed out Legion than what we've got in the final product), but that is a very nice idea.

>>732324495
The regular troops only listen to Lanius because he is the Legate (general). Why do faggots like you argue about games you have never played?

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>>732320442
just wait until we get to the Old World Blues part
at that point, they can fully unleash their millennial reddit "humor" augmented by the cancer which has brewed over the years since its release

>>732324424
>he wants to fight them himself
Yet he's running away because their "weakness" will be the Legion's downfall. See how retarded that sounds? Regardless of ANYTHING that happens afterwards the only way his reputation isn't taking a hit is him squashing the Courier there and then and he DOES NOT have to push any further into NCR territory to do so.

>>732324715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QafEjvQHRGU

>>732324657
>The regular troops only listen to Lanius because he is the Legate
And they'll die because they did. Would you offer up your life for a cause full well knowing it was futile?

>>732324746
>Yet he's running away because their "weakness" will be the Legion's downfall
Do you not understand how attrition effects and army? Lanius is a fucking tribal and even he can get that. Either you are continuing to be obtuse because your ego cant handle being wrong or you are actually retarded.
> the only way his reputation isn't taking a hit
This is literally just an arbitrary point that you are setting because you cant argue. He already did all of the fucked up shit and lead the massacres. You saying because he has one tactical retreat that that somehow invalidates an entire path of death and bodies is beyond dishonest and retarded.

>>732324821
So you acknowledge that other high ranking members cant do shit and thus no civil war.
>Would you offer up your life for a cause full well knowing it was futile
They are literally indoctrinated slaves. Play the game you fucking moron. Actually post your hours.

>>732324715
OWB is Venture Bros humor not reddit humor.

>>732321504
And literally nothing matters because you have The Nursery literally making GECKs.

>>732323715
He wanted to double make sure you understood that he was a poo.

>>732324821
That's a debatable comparison, since I doubt any of us in this thread have any real level of discipline, and are of the sort of indoctrination that makes us ill-fit for a battlefield.

...but you seem desperately hung up on the idea that Lanius should be undisputably as monstrous and unstoppable as his reputation makes him out to be. Which he can be provided you choose to try and grind him into mulch. Unfortunately the developers had to have a non-violent means of stopping him(open choices in an open world), and chose a direct means of doing so, character be damned. That's it. That's the whole conversation. There's no blood coming out of this stone anymore, it's all talked out.

>>732325014
Isn't that some shit from Van Buren?

>>732321923
You know they wiill. At the very least they'll bring the new monsters into mainline games.

>>732325137
Yes.
They put all the crap from Van Buren on the map (because the original map they stole it from also had it marked).

>>732324882
>Do you not understand how attrition effects and army?
Do you? The Legion is doomed to fail because of that specific fact of warfare, which is the ultimate point of all this. Lanius having to be explained this to while also having experienced it first hand points out how terribly written he is as a character and is essentially a plot point.
>This is literally just an arbitrary point that you are setting
Either Lanius is a monster or he's a guy pretending to be one. If that status changes based on what the player character does then he isn't a character, he's a plot point.

>>732325204
Yes I remember, people were trying so hard to say it wasn't the case but could explain why one location was just called "Siri's Village"

>>732324940
>you acknowledge that other high ranking members cant do shit
Not sure how you got to that conclusion when people all over the Legion question Lanius' ability to lead other than forcing troops to move forward or be decimated by himself.
>They are literally indoctrinated slaves
Yes, I'm sure Vulpes would simply accept being killed by Lanius rather than trying to save his own skin which wouldn't involve him using his own authority within the Legion to accomplish that

>>732325227
>Do you
So you don't know and you are just trying to extend this shit for as long as you can.
>The Legion is doomed to fail because of that specific fact of warfare
Its not since Lanius being able to think about it and then make a tactical retreat to regroup and make sure his forces are ready to fight it in the future. He even says he is going to return which you would know if you played the game.
>Lanius having to be explained this to while also having experienced it first hand
He didnt though, his conquests as legate have been quick and easy up until that point since the NCR is unlike anything he has encountered.
>Either Lanius is a monster or he's a guy pretending to be one
No you need to say that but cant explain how one tactical retreat just makes a mountain of corpses and multiple conquered tribes disappear.

>>732321105
>Dude with a brain tumor has a melty after losing the battle of hoover dam twice
I see nothing wrong with this.

>>732325064
In the situation we're talking about the Legion has just suffered their second loss at Hoover Dam with the latest one having their commander talked down by a mailman into retreating. What happened to the Burned Man when he lost the first time? Will Lanius suffer a similar fate even though his loss was even more disgraceful?

>>732325334
>Not sure how you got to that conclusion
Because you just dropped the point entirely to agree that he was in charge.
>Yes, I'm sure Vulpes would simply accept being killed by Lanius
lol, this faggot just makes it more and more clear he is just some secodary retard that has never played the game. I mean he cant even post his hours and now he says this. Vulpes isn't an ordinary soldier retard he is a Frumentarii, he take his orders directly from Caesar.

>>732325395
>So you don't know
I literally agreed with you and now you're claiming that's ignorant
>Its not since Lanius being able to think about it and then make a tactical retreat to regroup and make sure his forces are ready to fight it in the future
Only after the Courier explains all that shit to him. Again, Lanius DOES NOT NEED TO PUSH ANY FURTHER INTO NCR TERRITORY TO FIGHT THE COURIER, which is the main point of contention here.
>He didnt though
I thought I was the one who didn't play the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAHzsqBmCA#t=185
>you need to say that but cant explain how one tactical retreat just makes a mountain of corpses and multiple conquered tribes disappear
His "retreat" is predicated on further pushing into NCR territory but he doesn't need to do any of that to beat the Courier's ass then and there. Imagine being this "monster" that declines a fight because someone explained what would happen if you beat their ass AND THEN decided to keep pushing for more fights.

>>732325701
>I literally agreed with you
Then why ask if I knew?
>Only after the Courier explains all that shit to him
And? He hasnt encountered it before.
> DOES NOT NEED TO PUSH ANY FURTHER INTO NCR TERRITORY TO FIGHT THE COURIER
You already said this you fucking sperg and I explained why he did it calm the fuck down and stop seething.
>I thought I was the one who didn't play the game
You are, but good to see you need to try and throw that back at me to cope, still no hours btw.
>His "retreat" is predicated on further pushing into NCR territory but he doesn't need to do any of that
As we can see the sperg is now just going in circles and repeating shit which has already been addressed due to not being able to argue but being too much of a prideful toddler to just let it go and stop.

>>732325493
>you just dropped the point entirely to agree that he was in charge
Either Caesar is alive and Lanius does not speak for Caesar is dead and Lanius is in charge or fights whoever challenges him for leadership. In any case do you think Caesar needs war logistics explained to him and even if he does who would he listen to?
>Vulpes isn't an ordinary soldier retard he is a Frumentarii, he take his orders directly from Caesar
One that greatly deviates from Lanius' mindset and Lanius from his in turn. Do you even know what Vulpes thinks Lanius will do to him if Lanius ever became in charge?

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>>732323325
he didn't say that. that's a misquote

>>732325878
>Then why ask if I knew?
Because you needed to be shown that you agree with me
>He hasnt encountered it before
he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAHzsqBmCA#t=185
>calm the fuck down and stop seething
I accept your concession
>still no hours btw
how many would be acceptable for you to stop crying about it?
>the sperg is now just going in circles and repeating shit
because you've yet to refute the point

>>732325902
Okay so now you are just deflecting away from the point completely because this has nothing to do with the army following him and not any of the other member of the legion who you tried bringing up before.
>One that greatly deviates
Notice how whenever this faggot is shown to be wrong he just tries to worm his way to another point and thinks that that will just make the fact that he is talking out of his ass disappear. Seriously imagine being so fucking stupid that you try to argue about a game you haven't played why are retards like this? And he has his own opinion on it that was probably drilled into his head by some retarded collective.

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>>732326048
This is where the erection is made.

>>732326076
>this has nothing to do with the army following him and not any of the other member of the legion who you tried bringing up before
It's not as simple as people just following him though. You've already illustrated my point by pushing the fact that pushing into the NCR at that point would be disastrous for Lanius.
>Notice how whenever this faggot is shown to be wrong he just tries to worm his way to another point and thinks that that will just make the fact that he is talking out of his ass disappear
Like you just did by ignoring everything else I posted in response?

>>732326063
>Because you needed to be shown that you agree with me
Except you were the one who said he agreed with me but then asked why?
>he did
Nowhere does he say he did, he says that it was hard fought but never mentions attrition. Seriously all you can do now is try to pull up clips to cope with the fact that you cant argue and hope you can lie and misconstrue shit. Play the fucking game and stop being a faggot.
>I accept your concession
Oh look he has to ignore where I pointed out that I already covered his point because he knows and cant argue.
>how many
Stalling like this just tells me you don't have any and will just keep wasting time.
>because you've yet to refute the point
I did here >>732324424 and you just tried deflecting away like you always do and now you are trying to circle back to this point because you were btfo again.

>>732326254
>It's not as simple as people just following him though
It literally is
>ou've already illustrated my point by pushing
That has nothing to do with him having command and you are desperately trying to move away from this because you are wrong and know it.
>no u
I have covered everything you have brought up and you just deflect or act obtuse now post your hours or fuck off and cry on reddit.

>>732320442
Man all the costumes on this show look fucking tacky

>>732326332
>you were the one who said he agreed with me
I said you agreed with me and you did
>Nowhere does he say he did
except where he does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAHzsqBmCA#t=185
>he has to ignore where I pointed out that I already covered his point
And what point was that?
>Stalling like this just tells me you don't have any
I just want to be sure that whatever I post won't get retroactively regarded as "not enough" but since you refuse to state a figure I'd argue you're the one wasting time
>he wants to because it is both Caesar's goal and he wants to fight them himself
So then just do it? Oh wait the Courier explains the basic logistics of doing such a thing and now he's having second thoughts and WON'T EVEN FIGHT THE COURIER NOW

>>732326393
>It literally is
In which case the Legion is doomed to failure as illustrated by the Courier explaining it to Lanius
>That has nothing to do with him having command
That conflicts with the previous point
>I have covered everything you have brought up
You haven't otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with these responses

>uttering Myers-Briggs
>in a show based on vidya
I’m fucking dropping this god damn cringefest of a show.
ISTP btw

>>732326541
>I said you agreed with me and you did
So I wasn't the one who agreed it was you like I said.
>except where he does
Notice he has to ignore where I point out what Lanius says to just keep repeating the same cope.
>And what point was that
He now has to pretend he doesnt remember what was being argued. This is what shows he is truly desperate and that he 100% knows he's wrong. He genuinely expects people to believe that he forgot something he has been been trying to push for over an hour. Truly pathetic..
> just want to be sure
He has no hours and is just stalling like I said, no matter what he will just fine another excuse to not post hours because he cant.
>So then just do it
And lose? When he can go back, regroup and try again when the Legion is back to full strength?

>>732326636
>In which case the Legion is doomed to failure
And he is going in circles again because he cant argue. I will take this as you conceeding this point since I already adressed it and you couldnt argue it then either.
>inb4 where
You know where since you replied to it, you just want me to pull it up so you can give the same answer and go through the same bullshit like a deranged obtuse toddler.
>That conflicts with the previous point
It doesn't you are just crying because I wont let you deflect away.
>You haven't otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with these responses
Notice how he posts nothing after that and since there are no responses that I have not addressed.

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>>732320442
what the fuck is that grip

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>>732326063
>he did
"Hard-fought campaign" could mean anything; the people of the East refusing to submit and needing to be beaten into submission first, for example.
>>732326541
>WON'T EVEN FIGHT THE COURIER NOW
What exactly would this accomplish? If a general decided to kill the messenger before he announces a retreat, to his soldiers, it will only look like he's throwing a tantrum because he can't win. Lanius is a brute but he's not mindless.

>>732320442
They may have lost their head at Shady Sands, but the bear always had two...

>>732320442
I unironically basedfaced hard when I saw him.

>>732326804
>So I wasn't the one who agreed
You did, you just didn't realize it
>he has to ignore where I point out what Lanius says
while you ignore Lanius explaining his knowledge of the East being a hard fought campaign where Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood
>now has to pretend he doesnt remember what was being argued
Or you could have re-iterated your point but since you didn't it seems like there wasn't one to begin with
>He has no hours
You keep crying about this but refuse to state what would be an acceptable number to have played. What's your numbers look like?
>And lose?
Yes, because that's the point here. This "monster" is so shook by "losing" in an endeavor he literally does not have to do right now that he refuses to even fight a mailman.

>>732326925
>he is going in circles again because he cant argue
says the guy that disregarded a statement without explaining why it's wrong
>you just want me to pull it up
I'd rather you don't actually because that just vindicates me
>you are just crying because I wont let you deflect away
How does the Legion lose, by listening to Lanius or not?
>Notice how he posts nothing after that
Because there's nothing else to post, you're wasting everyone's time here instead of making points

>>732327121
>hard fought campaign where Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood
So you really are just illiterate. He said
>drew too much of the Legion's blood needed there for... this.
Meaning that he took way too much of the Legion's resources that should've been used to stabilize the East for the current war. That statement and the "hard fought campaign" one are two completely different things.

>>732327023
>"Hard-fought campaign" could mean anything
but "Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood" shows exactly what Lanius thinks of what happened there

this shit is so stupid

>>732327023
>What exactly would this accomplish?
Demoralization of the enemy by defeating their best combatant/most capable members and not ruining his reputation of being a psychopathic monster that runs away after having basic logistics explained to him

>>732327121
>You did, you just didn't realize it
So you're just making shit up. Got it.
>while you ignore Lanius explaining his knowledge of the East being a hard fought campaign
So nothing about attrition and are trying to misconstrue what he is saying like I said
>where Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood'
Notice how he has to cut off the full quote and leaves out the part where he says "for this" the Legions blood in this instance being troops which are drawn for the Mojave campaign. He knows this but cant help but act dishonestly.
>Or you could have re-iterated your point
You mean the point that you already know but cant argue so you need to play dumb, which you havent denied and can only double down.
>You keep crying about this but refuse to state what would be an acceptable number to have played. What's your numbers look like?
If you played the game you would know the average length from start to finish and not have to ask this question so thats another point to you stalling because you cant do what has been asked.
>Yes, because that's the point here
Its not but you need to say it is so you can backpedal to crying how lanius isnt a monster despite not being able to argue and just making shit up.
>This "monster" is so shook by "losing" in an endeavor he literally does not have to do right now
No he wants to win so he will go back and gather strength to ensure he can but you need to make shit up and say he is shook to cope.

>>732327297
>Meaning that he took way too much of the Legion's resources
Thanks for agreeing with me

>>732327297
He's not illiterate, he is just being purposely dishonest because he lost and now has to turn this argument into a retarded battle of attrition until he can get anything that can he can call a win and soothe his bruised ego. Faggots do this shit all the time.

I'm kinda bummed there was no mention of the boomers.

>>732320442
>scene doesnt use NV music

Who wanna bet schizo, yadda yadda, angry about anons liking shows, thousands of posts, etc. Here or will be.
You know the drill.

>>732327245
>says the guy that disregarded a statement
Never happened, once again you are making shit up to cope with being wrong and crying "no u" like a toddler.
>I'd rather you don't actually because
It proves you wrong and shows youre being an obtuse faggot? Yeah I know if it vindicated you you wouldnt be here right now.
>How does the Legion lose, by listening to Lanius or not?
And once again he is deflecting away and bringing shit up that has nothing to do with Lanius being in command.
>Because there's nothing else to post
And now he fully admits that he lied about me ignoring his points.
>you're wasting everyone's time
1. You are not everyone but very pathetic you have to go for ad populum like that
2. You are wasting your own time by continuing to push something that is wrong and throwing a tantrum all the while.

>>732327392
>you're just making shit up
Do you agree that Lanius shouldn't try to conquer the entirety of the NCR right now?
>So nothing about attrition
He literally says it's about "drawing the Legion's blood". What would that be, exactly?
>the Legions blood in this instance being troops which are drawn for the Mojave campaign
Wow it's almost as if the only way the Legion can win is if they maintain unsustainable combat and conquest tactics or something
>If you played the game you would know the average length from start to finish
So state a number, if you've played the game that is
>backpedal to crying how lanius isnt a monster
He is and he isn't thanks to bad writing
>he wants to win
So he goes onto the battlefield and lets the Courier talk him into a retreat? It's a bad look no matter how you frame it but it's much worse if Lanius is supposed to be smarter than his reputation would suggest.

Love live the New California Republic!

>>732327619
>Never happened
you literally did it again
>It proves you wrong
it proves you can't refute my point
>bringing shit up that has nothing to do with Lanius being in command
I literally asked you if the Legion loses or doesn't lose if Lanius is in command
>You are wasting your own time by continuing to push something that is wrong
the irony is simply delicious

know it sucks to accept it but canon is whatever the IP owner decides it is. If Todd today decides that aliens mindcontrolled Vault Tec into starting WW3 to reshape humanity, then that is the new canon. We know that it was China who launched the nukes because the US wouldn't stop developing their FEV to which the US retaliated, but if Todd doesn't like that then it's his right to change that. Even the father of the IP said as much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzGea7I7CO4

But what Fallout right now is, more than it ever was, is a Bethesda game.

>character creator
>first and third person
>be in base
>sort out gear and grab what you need
>open map and pick location or quest
>head out
>2 minutes later something to fight
>2 minutes later something to explore
>2 minutes later something to interact with
>2 hours later
>completed 2 quests
>explored 1 dungeon
>looted 2 new pieces of gear
>encountered a new companion
>now you are at your target location to do what you actually wanted to do
>do the thing
>you've played the game for 4 hours and return to your base
>do some maintenance, eat, sleep, head out again

Why do you think Bethesda refuses to rebuild civilization in any way at all? Am i really supposed to believe that people are hauling around hundreds of bottle caps so they can buy basic goods? In an in-game vacuum none of this makes sense. But as soon as you factor in outside elements everything makes perfect sense.

Proper cities would mean more characters, more systems and mechanics and we know the engine is already coming apart. Long distance travel and communication would cut back on the Bethesda loop of "something to explore/loot/kill every 20 seconds" which is what people are playing these games for. Don't need to walk there because i can just call the NPC - less emergent gameplay. A functioning society would destroy the wild wasteland aspect.

Of all the issues Fallout 4 has, the way you get Power Armor is pissing me off the most. It's supposed to be literally bullet proof but you get it in the first 3 hours, but that would have been alright if they had done it right.

>get the PA suit
>use it to fight the deathclaw
>deathclaw picks you up, damages the suit, you get ejected
>suit goes boom and kills the deathclaw
>the minutemen help you hauling the suit back to base
>you spend the next 20 levels trying to repair it with a proper quest line

There. It would have been perfect. PA frames don't spawn until you finished fixing yours. And since the hands are now mechanical you can't use trigger operated firearms because you don't have the manual dexterity to PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER LET ALONE FIT YOUR FINGER INSIDE THE TRIGGER GUARD but instead you have to use heavy weapons. They connect to the suits interface. Or you can use sledge hammers.

And if Todd really wanted to do PA right, especially since they were already adding new suits, they would have given us light, medium and heavy variants.

Light is built for speed, with very little armor, basic rifle caliber proof, closed loop oxygen recycling, radiation proof, dampened joints stealth field, PVC gloves instead of mechanical fingers.

Medium is what we have right now.

Heavy is pretty much 40k armor. A walking tank. Unless you suffer a direct hit with a mini nuke nothing can hurt you.

Fallout 3 should have been a hard-reboot of the timeline.

>set the clock to 2110
>Keep the same factions, brands and iconography
>Nobody is actually rebuilding society because they are too busy surviving
>Introduce the whole Grey/Master thing with FEV
>Have your scavengers sifting through ruins, fighting mutants, forming bands of raiders

Because that is every Bethesda Fallout game. A post-apocalyptic world, after over 200 years, should have indoor plumbing, electricity, societies, cities, governments, proper roads for the god damn garbage trucks picking up trash. We should have long distance communication or at least a two way radio so the player doesn't have to personally check in on every quest NPC. We should have a law enforcement.

Am i really supposed to believe that people are hauling around hundreds of bottle caps so they can buy basic goods? In an in-game vacuum none of this makes sense. But as soon as you factor in outside elements everything makes perfect sense.

Proper cities would mean more characters, more systems and mechanics and we know the engine is already coming apart. Long distance travel and communication would cut back on the Bethesda loop of "something to explore/loot/kill every 20 seconds" which is what people are playing these games for. Don't need to walk there because i can just call the NPC - less emergent gameplay. A functioning society would destroy the wild wasteland aspect because there would be more non-hostile NPCs traveling so you can't just shoot anyone you want anymore.

All those ruins and abandoned buildings would get demolished or used as living space. There would be cargo trucks on the roads and maybe even public transportation. It would more Far Cry than Mad Max. Not to mention the effort it would take to build such a world. No studio could pull that off.

>>732327872
>canon is whatever the IP owner decides it is
while you're 100% correct, never underestimate to power of severe autism's ability to reject reality so hard to the point of spending hours insisting head canon is the actual canon.

this is a board instead of simply explaining how a game sucks, will instead have crazy people claim there are massive conspiracies that faked a game's success that includes both the /v/ jannies along with the Chinese government itself plus Valve faking numbers. reality has little bearing here.

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>>732327664
>He literally says it's about "drawing the Legion's blood"
So he said nothing about attrition in the east and you have to deflect again to cope with being wrong.
>What would that be
Purposely ignroing what was said in the post you are replying to how fucking pathetic can you be? >>732327392 "where he says "for this" the Legions blood in this instance being troops which are drawn for the Mojave campaign. He knows this but cant help but act dishonestly" oh wait the green text below shows you do know what it means and you are just asking retarded question you already know the answers to again.
>Wow it's almost as if the only way
And he is deflecting again and trying to avoid the fact he lied and was caught.
> if you've played the game that is
Notice how easy it is to post hours and how it makes it even more clear this faggot is stalling.
>He is and he isn't
He is and I have explained how and all you can do is cope and deflect.
>So he goes onto the battlefield
He is in his war camp you fucking retard, but keep showing you haven't played the game.

>>732320767
DESIGNATED

>>732327794
>you literally did it again
Where show what point I have ignored.
>it proves you can't refute my point
No it it shows you will play dumb because yours has been refuted.
>I literally asked
And he just doubles down on the deflection.
>the irony is simply delicious
Yet again no u, looks like someone lost control and needs to act smug to cope.

What a dogshit show. Why does everything need to be live action? Just leave it alone.

>riptide laser cannon

>/v/ says shows sucks
>watch it
>it's enjoyable and perfectly fine
I'm convinced /v/ both never actually plays video games or watch anything it complains about.

>>732328060
>So he said nothing about attrition in the east
except the part about "drawing the Legion's blood"
>troops which are drawn for the Mojave campaign
so attrition has nothing to do with available troops then?
>Notice how easy it is to post hours
You still didn't state a number
>He is
If he was he wouldn't have hesitated to beat the Courier down even after getting basic logistics explained to him
>He is in his war camp
All the more reason to beat the Courier's ass instead of running away, if he's "an absolute monster"

>>732328135
>show what point I have ignored
>>Never happened
>you will play dumb because yours has been refuted
So reiterate the point so I have to refute it
>And he just doubles down on the deflection
>Yet again no u
You'd rather cry I'm ignoring non-existent points than make them

>>732323157
>"UM ACKSHUALLY I AM NOT INDIAN, I WAS QUOTING A LITERAL NAZI! I DEMAND YOU RECOGNISE ME AS A LOSER WITH A SUPERIORITY COMPLEX WHO FEELS SO INADEQUATE ABOUT HIS LIFE THAT HE PROJECTS ALL HIS FAILURES INTO BEING THE RESULT OF OTHER RACES!"

It's so fucking hilarious that American's still pull the "we saved the world from Nazi's" card and then turn around 90 years later and can't stop gushing about how the Nazi's were right
pick a fucking lane, either you saved thw rodl from retarded racists, or you're morons who attacked the side they relate to the most

>>732328345
>except the part about "drawing the Legion's blood"
That's not attrition you dishonest faggot he is talking about drawing troops for the Mojave campaign and I said that.
>so attrition has nothing to do with available troops then
Not in this context.
>You still didn't state a number
I gave mine, but keep crying and stalling secondary.
>If he was he wouldn't have hesitated to beat the Courier down
Why? He is going to retreat continuing to fight and enemy agent is the opposite of retreating, do you know what retreat means?
>All the more
So not on the battlefield, good job showing you didn't play the game, tard.

>>732328452
>ask to show point i ignored
>only shows things i have said
So I haven't and you are lying again.
>You'd rather cry I'm ignoring non-existent points than make them
This is literally what you are doing right now you fucking schizo.

>>732328313
>I'm convinced /v/ both never actually plays video games or watch anything it complains about.
Shill post, this cuck is using ad hominem to defend his dogshit and is proven wrong by the thread itself.

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>>732321379
You forgot
>The kings are all ghouls now

I thought the season was fun, but I'm also not autistic and don't have an underlying mental illness causing me to get angry over a show taking some artistic liberty with game lore.

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>>732328492
>That's not attrition
>Not in this context
Disagree
>I gave mine
So the only acceptable amount of hours to have truly played a game is what you have? Thanks for proving my point.
>He is going to retreat
>do you know what retreat means?
It should mean he gets the same treatment that the Burned Man did but clearly he won't and that shows that the Legion is in such a weakened position that they can no longer punish failure
>So not on the battlefield
Correct. If someone strolled into Putin's office in Moscow and told him to take a hike and he did would you not call that an abject failure to protect his perimeter?

>>732328661
nah, it's a pretty standard outlook for nu-/v/ in general.

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>COLORADO
is this hype or eye squinting?

>>732328556
>only shows things i have said
Yes, that's how presenting proof works. So if you wanted to prove something you'd present the proof of it.
>This is literally what you are doing right now
Says the guy refusing to reiterate their so called point

The fact that people unironically go "see, there's cheap fanservice, nothing is wrong actually" in the year of our lord two thousand sixteen is disheartening

>>732321504
there's two shady sands now?

>>732328949
The Big Bang Theory is one of the most successful sitcoms in recent history.
Let's not pretend the bar is high. And let's not pretend /v/ has good taste. Gacha shit is spammed here all the time.

>>732321534
They're gaslighting you but you're right in noticing the uncommon construction. It'd be fine if they'd just be honest about not being native speakers.

>>732327607
almost always is

>>732328843
>Disagree
So him saying that they are using troops in the current campaign means that they have faced it before when nothing about that is said or indicated? Good job retard you showed you are wrong again.
>So the only acceptable amount of hours to have truly played a game is what you have
No one said anything about an acceptable amount but you, look up how long the game takes and then you have your answer, you have already shown you can use google.
>It should mean he gets the same treatment that the Burned Man
And now you are deflecting yet again.
>Correct
So you know you are wrong and showed you didn't play the game.

>>732320442
There are too many plot threads. They need to condense them. Maybe the vault gets wiped next season.

>>732328925
>Yes, that's how presenting proof works
The proof you need to show is what I ignored and since you cant its clear you lied and I didnt ignore anything.
>Says the guy refusing to reiterate their so called point
You mean the point you are ignoring? And how do you know its even real if you cant remember what it is? You have proven you will lie already so its pretty clear you are doing it again.

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>rape your favorite franchise to the ground
Should have bought Starfield.

>>732329676
That was Fallout76
Show is okay

>>732329676
TES6 please crash and burn TES6 please crash and burn TES6 please crash and burn

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>>732328860
>nah, it's a pretty standard outlook for nu-/v/ in general.
No you need to say that because you are a corporate shill that hates critical thought due to it making your job harder so you need everything to be a toxic positivity echo chamber, If the people here didnt like games or enjoy anything they would not care about shitty games and shows coming out at all. The reason they care is because things could be better but get fucked by a number of factors. This show could have been good if it weren't made by bargain bin retards who know nothing about Fallout. I mean saying that people hate Fallout while while saying they don't like the show is so deftly retarded because they say exactly why they hate it. It butchers the setting, factions, characters, and message of games they actually like and enjoy.

I thought the show was dogshit, but I guess I don't have the lack of cognitive function need to enjoy this sort of slop. Nor do I want to because turning your brain off to enjoy media is gay and defeats the purpose of it

>>732320808
Only thing that isn't canon is that PS2 BoS game

>>732329821
meds

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>>732329616
>So him saying that they are using troops in the current campaign means that they have faced it before
lol no, he's literally referencing the past. What absurd mental gymnastics.
>look up how long the game takes and then you have your answer
No whining now that you set the criteria
>now you are deflecting yet again
yeah man god forbid I point out the double standards of doomed organizations

>>732329670
>The proof you need to show is what I ignored
I literally posted it when I called it out
>You mean the point you are ignoring?
You could simply reiterate it and I'd address it

>>732327607
Yup. Definitely here. Same buzzwords and typing style and everything.

>>732330068
>explain why people shit on shows and game
>cries meds to cope
lol, keep crying shill.

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>>732328060
>~490 hours
>barely touched the DLCs
Those coomer mods will rot your brain.

>>732330263
>schizo rant claiming everyone is a corporate shill
>ha, you're coping about this entirely separate thing!
meds

>>732329628
I like how you call them threads as if they have a solid start and end point. They are just making shit up as they go and answering nothing.

>>732320808
Only the tactics games and brotherhood of steel aren't canon, 76 takes place so early in the timeline in a very self contained Appalachia that it largely doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>732330263
You fucking dumbass.
It's perfectly normal to shit on the show. It's the "if you're retarded and like the show, the only possible explanation is you're a paid shill" thing is retarded schizo shit.
I know you're not going to take this to heart, but at least there's the explanation why people tend to make fun of you.

>>732330072
>lol no, he's literally referencing the past
He literally says "The East was a hard-fought campaign. Even now, Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood needed there for... this."
For this, which you left out before because it is clearly referencing the current campaign and nothing earlier.
>No whining now that you set the criteria
Cool what subreddit did you steal that from? What did you think that you could just post an image after over an hour of stalling and showing ignorance to the ending?
>inb4 waaah not fair you need to believe me even though I have done nothing but lie y-you were always going to do this
No, if you posted it when I first asked I would have believed you, but you have lied, stalled, and used so many copes that I have no reason to believe these are your actual hours.
>yeah man god forbid I point out the double standards
Now he is crying that I wont let him deflect.

>>732320442
why did they use FO4 theme for NCR?
this would sound way better...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5_rZaZ6dz0

>>732330129
>I literally posted it when I called it out
No you posted what I said not what you said I ignored. So that means you are making shit up, again.
>You could simply reiterate
Reiterate what? You don't even know the point I am talking about.

>>732320959
hoover dam its obsolete compared to mcguffin cold fusion diode

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>>732330285
>barely touched the DLCs
What?

>>732330641
time to do the Caravan achievement. this is a struggle we all go thru for that 100%

>>732329010
The one from the show that was near the Boneyard for some reason
and the one from the game that wasn't

>>732330476
>"if you're retarded and like the show, the only possible explanation is you're a paid shill"
I never said that, but nice strawman, shill.

>>732330687
Caravan is fun though.

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>>732330687
>time to do the Caravan achievement
Way ahead of you.

>>732330518
>it is clearly referencing the current campaign and nothing earlier
>The East was
>Caesar drew too much of the Legion's blood needed there
he keeps referencing the past bro
>what subreddit did you steal that from
You tell me if you're going to make that accusation. Good job vindicating me predicting there was no point to posting hours since you were just going to cry that they were fake or someone else's.
>he is crying that I wont let him deflect
all you do is deflect when I point things out

>>732330641
>53/75
>25 of those 75 are DLC related
>show just 2 DLC achievements you acquired
>the 3rd one is when you arrive in Zion
>``What?''
Come on, man, don't act stupid.

>>732330557
>you posted what I said
which is precisely what I was calling out
>Reiterate what?
The point you're claiming I'm ignoring. Or does that not exist now?

>>732330708
>I never said that
>Says that
As I said, knew you wouldn't take it to heart. Just gave you too much credit that you wouldn't prove the point literally in your reply like a retard.
Just gonna ignore whatever nonsense you reply going forward.

>>732328313
>I'm convinced /v/ both never actually plays video games or watch anything it complains about.
been the case for the past decade really

>>732330779
>he keeps referencing the past bro
He literally says "For this" you dishonest faggot
>Good job vindicating me predicting there was no point to posting hours
And of course he doesnt try to defend the validity of his hours or tries to deny what I said and just resigns himself to saying that I would have done this no matter what like I said he would. This was his goal from jump and why he has to avoid posting for as long as possible. Truly shameful that anyone would be pathetic enough to act like this.
>no u deflect
And he just dropped a big steaming turn in his diaper.

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Never watching this dogshit.
I hope Todd gets bone cancer.

>>732330829
>which is precisely what I was calling out
You weren't you were calling out that I ignored your points but cant say what points I ignored.
>The point you're claiming I'm ignoring
And that would be what exactly?

>>732330865
Show the post where I said that quote. Go ahead.
>Just gonna ignore whatever nonsense you reply going forward.
Looks like he cant and now has to run away while acting smug to cope

Back from my ban and the schizophrenic shill is at it again in another thread

>>732330910
>He literally says "For this"
while talking about past events
>he doesnt try to defend the validity of his hours
because this is a complete non-sequitur in regards to what happens in NV's story/plot
Lanius is a terribly written "character", just accept it

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>shady sands
>says 1st capital, not current
what if New Arroyo is the capital now? would be cool because that is a town founded by the player.

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>>732330806
Posting my hours really pissed you off huh?

>>732331002
>You weren't you were calling out that I ignored your points
because that just proves my point
>And that would be what exactly?
You tell me since you're making the claim

>>732331046
you literally called them a shill in your reply. in response to a thread saying you call everyone a shill.

>>732329676
Why is Todd so butthurt about NV? Just because people like it more than 3? (and now 4 and 76)

>>732321379
>Liberty Prime
Did they really shove him into the Mojave? For what purpose?

>>732331083
>while talking about past events
Just going fully delusional now? If he was talking about the past he would have said "for... that" you know since it would be past tense?
>because this is a complete non-sequitur
Oh look baby needs to make excuses now that he cant bullshit away from his retarded behavior being called out along with his complete disinterest in defending something he wanted to make sure would be accepted for hours.
> to what happens in NV's story/plot
Lanius is a terribly written "character", just accept it
Can't accept something that isn't true, especially if it is said by some mentally ill faggot that has to lie and go in circles because he cant argue.

>>732331232
Exactly

>>732331230
>because that just proves my point
It doesn't since you cant show what points I ignored.
>You tell me since you're making the claim
There is no claim since you haven't even given an inkling of what you think I have said.

>>732331232
>you literally called them
Yeah I never said what he claimed I did. Why are you jumping into this without knowing? This is what I said "No you need to say that because you are a corporate shill that hates critical thought due to it making your job harder so you need everything to be a toxic positivity echo chamber" I never said anything about "if you're retarded and like the show, the only possible explanation is you're a paid shill" So why do you think I did? Why would you respond agreeing with some retard without knowing what was said?

>>732330342
>schizo rant claiming everyone is a corporate shill
I said one guy was a shill, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>meds
Keep crying faggot.

>>732331475
>Why are you jumping into this without knowing
we can literally read the posts as they happen you faggot. i'm not agreeing with any retard. just responding to what you said with what you literally said.

>>732331349
>If he was talking about the past he would have said "for... that"
or he would reference the past in the context of "for...this"
>Oh look baby needs to make excuses now
you're the one getting caught up gameplay hours when the discussion is about the game's narrative and characters
>Can't accept something that isn't true
Lanius' character changes depending on which NPC's narrative you trust, your personal biases of the character or if you do or do not try to "beat" him with a skill check vs combat, change my mind.

>>732331576
>we can literally read the posts
Yeah and it shows I didn't say what that other tard claim I did and I showed that in my last post, so why is it that you are saying that I did?

>>732331517
>Keep crying faggot
ironic post

>>732331402
>It doesn't
It does because you were being hypocritical to prove your point
>There is no claim
Good, you can stop replying then

>>732331645
>n-no u
typical shill response.

>>732331634
>you literally called them a shill in your reply. in response to a thread saying you call everyone a shill.
that's what i said you illiterate monkey.

>but why did they shove liberty prime in there
But its a well known character they can market to you and sell merch thats all this show is one giant ad

>>732331671
>don't you dare point out i'm crying like a faggot when i'm crying like a faggot, after i claim someone is crying like a faggot
no

>>732331705
>that's what I said you illiterate monkey
And it make no fucking sense since I only called one guy a shill.

>>732331784
reread your post
>so why is it that you are saying that I did?
i said
>you literally called them a shill in your reply. in response to a thread saying you call everyone a shill.
now bother someone else. you're not that important.

>>732331578
>or he would reference the past in the context of "for...this"
Imagine being so desperate you need to pretend to be an ESL and pretend you dont know how past tense woks. He would have said "for...that" if it was referring to something in the past.
>you're the one getting caught up gameplay hours
because you kept making it clear you didnt know basic shit about the game which made it clear you didn't play it.
>Lanius' character changes depending on which NPC's narrative you trust
No it doesn't change, you need to say it does because you need to say that its bad for some reason an cant back any of it up even after hours of crying you can only go in circles and lie.

>>732331897
>reread your post
Already did, and I never said that.
>you literally called them a shill in your reply. in response to a thread saying you call everyone a shill
I never called anyone but that retard a shill.
>now bother someone else. you're not that important
If that was the case you wouldn't have replied, fuck off retard read the replied before jumping in and crying about what people are saying.

>>732331950
>He would have said "for...that" if it was referring to something in the past
or he would have simply referenced those past events
>you didnt know basic shit about the game
like Lanius referencing the past?
>it doesn't change
prove it

>>732331750
>don't you dare point out i'm crying like a faggot when i'm crying like a faggot, after i claim someone is crying like a faggot
Never said this, so Its clear you are projecting.

>>732332019
cry more retard

>>732332047
>>732331517

>projecting
ironic post

Ignore the schizo. They're a known entity in many Fallout threads during these hours. To the point people call out that they'll be in here at some point sometimes:
>>732327607

>>732332023
>or he would have simply referenced those past events
But he's not and all you can do is cope.
>like Lanius referencing the past
Is baby getting petty and just repeating himself because he needs to be right so he can save face after hours of crying and arguing about a game he has never played? He is talking about the present, it is why he says "for this" This being the Mojave campaign that he is leading"
>prove it
Already did and you just cried and deflected for hours.
>inb4 no you didn't
lol, back to this? Its all here read the thread again. clicking a link isn't hard and you are used to autistic and tedious activities you spent two hours stalling for nothing after all.

>>732332094
>no u
he is having a mental breakdown

>>732330994
I hope Todd gets bone cancer.
But I AM watching this show.
He deserves it for Starfield and over a decade without a new singleplayer ES or FO, but constant paid mods shit.

>>732332172
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>732332051
You're doing that enough for me, I guess I was important enough eh?

>>732332236
ironic post

>>732332194
>But he's not
he literally does
>He is talking about the present
While referencing the past. Why mention that "The East was a hard-fought campaign" if it has no bearing on his current outlook?

>>732332278
just another /v/ schizo that sometimes jumps into FO threads. not a big deal, they're rampant these days. you just start noticing it if you go into a lot of these.

>>732332398
>just another /v/ schizo that sometimes jumps into FO threads
Is it this guy >>732332368? Because he has been spending hours lying and going in circles about something he cant argue?

>>732332461
New schizo maybe.

>>732332319
Its not, you are just a faggot that is so mindbroken all he can do is cry "no u"
>inb4 ironic post
Its either going to be this or some other shit to prove what my prediction wrong.

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>>732320442
>some dorks in their garage made a better looking ranger armor than a multi-billion dollar company
let that sink in

>>732332461
it's clearly the guy who is losing their arguments so they try to claim someone else is a schizo/shitposter

It's actually a well down scene but it doesn't make the show good.

>>732332461
i'm not following that chain of discussion so maybe or maybe not. i just came in hoping i could discuss the last episode since i just finished it just to see the normal nonsense around this time.
maybe it'll be normal in a few hours.

>>732332610
I never claimed anything I asked a question and got a reply. But keep crying and playing dumb after getting btfo on everything else

>>732332278
He’s is just some shill that had been in every fucking thread for this show. He says anyone that points out shilling is some schizo he made up and will spend hours talking to himself and harass anyone that says the show is bad. But I’ve said this he is going to jump at the both of us and say that we are his boogey man. Even if you post a screencap he will just say it’s edited or some gay shit and even if you show that is wrong he will still say it.

>>732332572
ironic post
>if i say what i know he'll say i won the internet argument

>>732332575
>passion vs soulless muh money

>>732332278
Oh, there he is:
>>732332675

>>732332657
I doubt it. Some guy said I was calling everyone a schizo because I said he was a shill for complaining about /v/.

>>732332675
Seriously?

>>732332768
Like fucking clockwork. Sup fag you want me to post the webm from the other thread so you can try and pilpul it for another five hours?

>>732332785
anon, everyone on /v/ complains about /v/. you new?
the schizo is known to call everyone a shill though, so that's probably why you might've been pointed out as it incorrectly or correctly (i don't know, not going to bother reading a hundred or so posts)

>>732332673
Why would you ask an identifying question about someone unless you had preconceived notion about them? Is "identifying" a "schizo" more important to you than the topic at hand?

>>732320767
>well born
Your gods play second fiddle to the abrahamic bharat

>>732332861
That post is responding to the first post's question and pointing out your post as who's being talked about.
You a moron or ESL?

>>732323715
True well born Ayran sir.

>>732332886
>anon, everyone on /v/ complains about /v/. you new?
He was trying to say no one likes anything when that doesn't make any sense and then instead of arguing any of that he just got really mad about being called a shill and tried saying I was calling everyone a shill.

>>732332901
>Why would you ask an identifying question about someone unless you had preconceived notion about them
Because you are showing signs of mental instability and I wanted to make sure before I said anything.

>>732333020
>I wanted to make sure before I said anything
>had to say something to confirm it
hi schizo

>>732320442
Based scene. I stood up and scream KIIIINO when it happened

>>732320442
>somehow, the NCR returned

>>732332985
you said that you called him a shill for complaining about /v/.
that's all I had to go on.
if you called someone a shill without having a reason for calling them a shill, that would probably be why that all happened.

>>732333092
>had to say something to confirm it
Yeah and you did confirm it since you keep denying reality and you dropped everything just to get defensive like this.

>>732333107
You're memeing but this is what the average goypig goycattle does

>>732320442
I basedfaced when this happened ngl.

>>732332852
Yes, seriously
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/731877023/#731903351

>>732333160
>you keep denying reality
says the guy who claimed one thing and then did the opposite

>>732331182
No, you ``pretending'' to be retarded pissed me off, you being a poorfag shitter gaymer doesn't bother me at all.

>>732332940
No it’s some faggot shill crying that I am his boogeyman now after I pointed out that he keeps doing this in threads. But hey the season is over so you should fuck off soon.

>>732333231
nta but you sound awfully bothered

>>732333282
What does that have to do with you blatantly misunderstanding the post?
That means you're either a moron or ESL. Possibly both.

>>732333215
>says the guy who claimed one thing and then did the opposite
Going full schizo now I see.

>>732333295
>sound
Okay. Perhaps the problem is a bunch of brain damaged faggots using text to speech. Who knows. Good luck and have fun, stranger. ;^)

I haven't watched this slop and don't intend to, but didn't the NCR supposedly get nuked and disbanded last season? How are they back?

>>732333396
quite a bothered looking post

>>732333415
You can't "nuke" NCR. It's too large for that

>>732333209
Jesus Christ

>>732330446
Tactics is canon, its ending isn't because they recycled the final boss for FO3.

>>732333231
>No, you ``pretending'' to be retarded pissed me off
You mean showing that you are wrong? Yeah I can see why an egotistical fucktard would consider that retarded.

>>732333341
It doesn’t since I never said anything about that I just said that you tried crying that I was your boogeyman to someone else.

>>732333371
Glad you could admit it. Guess we're done now though since you've gone off topic.

>>732333456
Yes he has been at this for weeks apparently. But be happy that he will fuck off soon and his autistic tantrums and dick sucking for this shitty show will disappear with him.

>>732333520
...

So are they going to do NCR good, Legion bad? No battle for Hoover Dam, and the next season takes place in Colorado at the Enclave facility?

>>732333541
>Glad you could admit it
Admit what? That you are acting like a schizo? proved that by getting unreasonably mad at a simple question.
>Guess we're done now though since you've gone off topic
You did that first, but I accept your concession.

>>732333619
>You did that first
prove it

>>732333663
>prove it
here>>732332023 where you kept lying about what lanius meant and dropped everything else just to do so

>>732333587
>he has nothing
That’s what I thought, keep crying shill, I know it’s all you can do.

>>732320442
I'm not watching any minute of this slop
stop making threads about it

>>732333715
Fallout is the topic though, try again.

>>732333817
>Fallout is the topic though
No, Lanius being a monster is the topic not Fallout in general and you have failed to argue that and dropped everything to play dumb.

>>732333879
>Lanius being a monster is the topic
Thanks for verifying that post was on topic

>>732333943
>Thanks for verifying that post was on topic
It wasn't since you weren't arguing and were just playing dumb. But thank you for not denying that after I said it twice showing that you know you were doing it.

>>732333745
Yeah, that's what that means you lunatic.

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i haven't seen a single episode of the show and i never will

for me? its videogames. and basically, you are retarded.

>>732334016
Yes, ellipses means silence in text you tard.