Was there ever a reason given as to why Capcom half-assed the Resident Evil 3 remake?
It's literally nothing more than the exact same shit the DEmake 2 was, mate. Just not backed up by as aggressive shilling campaign as #2.
>>732323856assuming you're not shitposting, it was supposed to release with the multiplayer component as the other "half" but was delayed for a year making the product feel half baked
>>732323856>implying RE2R wasn't half-assedThe most blatant psyop from crapcom shills
>>732323856They hate Jill for some reason so they outsourced her game
>>732323856Was in dev simultaneously as re2 by a B team. Capcom would’ve probably but more effort in had they known how popular re2make would be
>>732323856They just wanted to make off a quick buck over the remake series
>>732323856Apparently it was originally meant to be bundled with RE2make but they split the project in half and gave it to the C team for some reason? It's not entirely known why it ended up the way it did since it was being worked on alongside RE2.
>>732323856The original was half assed, so it only made sense this one would be as well.
Idk but I was pretty dissapointed when those directors cut rumors were false
>>732323856It's just on par with original.
>>732323856they rushed it because they thought they had to ride RE2make's hype train. They failed to realize that RE2make had bought them so much good will they could have delayed it a year or two
It's actually good remake. I know that they didn't add a clock tower but nobody liked that part anyway.
>>732324032you're confusing Resistance+RE3 (released day one) and REverse+RE8 (delayed a year)
>>732326123>clock towerand 70% of Raccoon city streets, and the park/graveyard, and the dead factory, and an actually threatening Nemesis
>>732326123Speak for yourself.> First 25¬30% of the game has been reduced to a speed segment.> Train repair segment also suffers from it. Yo ugot to power plant then to a train control room aaaand.... that's it.> Clock Tower reduced to a single boss fight> Jill got robbed from her RPD section and was given to Carlos.> Dead Factory changed to generic Umbrella Lab.The entire game feels like it's barely above RE2R asset flip.
Even Bawk doesn't prise the game. And he is official Capcom shill.
>>732323856Let's face it they were in a rush to get to RE4 remake because RE4 is the best game they ever made. And after all that Re4 remake is just okay but still doesn't hold a candle to the OG.
>>732325640The original RE3 is anything but half assed. It's the best classic RE. >>732326123That's not even a fraction of the demake 's issues, umya underage nufag. And everyone liked the Clock tower area.
gigantic anime nemisis is cringe
>>732326729>And after all that Re4 remake is just okayLol nope. It's fucking awful slop.
>>732326443I'm not confused. Go fuck yourself.
>>732323856>Was there ever a reason given as to why Capcom half-assed the Resident Evil 3 remake?Yes. People didn't criticized the changes and cut content from RE2 Demake enough, so they doubled it down on it in RE3
>>732326816It's fine you're just a bitter chud eternally seething at every little thing to give your life any sense of meaning.
>>732326729True RE4R felt like an actual game compared to 2R and 3R
>removed Raccoon City backalleys and backtracking>no Clock Tower>no Raccoon City Park>no Raccoon City Waste Disposal Plant>hospital section changed bigly>final area is another sci-fi Umbrella NEST facility
>Demake 2 gets Ghost Survivors for free, which is the games best content. They didn't have to do this, but they did>REmake 4 gets Mercenaries for free, which should've shipped with the game so no brownie points, but ultimately appreciated it's there>Demake 3? Doesn't get fucking shit.
>>732327205Shame they gutted it's main feats
>>732327498>which is the games best content.And that "best content" still sucks ass, since it's nothing more than a reskin of Hunk's 4th survivor, with nothing new, no story, and just run & gun slop.
>>732328405>it's nothing more than a reskin of Hunk's 4th survivor,Uuuuh it has new mechanics and enemies. Hunk and Tofu in Demake 2 are pure dogshit.
>>732328763Excella...
>>732323856She has no personality
>never played the original>read complaints itt>they removed some sections others consider boring>made the game more streamlined, less walking aroundWhy is this bad again? From what i understand the main appeal of the RE3 was that it was more action packed than RE2 and those slow sections ruined the pacing and were mostly unnecessary.
>>732323856I read somewhere that the team that did the remake of 3 was some sort of 'B' team and was not the team that did the remake of 2 so that might explain the dip in quality and big cuts of things.Also they were apparently supposed to be bundled together but something happened with the development of 3 which led to it coming out later insteadI don't have the source as I read it eons ago but it was the one of the things that stood out at the time that seemed plausible for why 3 was so weird compared to 2
>>732329902Sounds like you wouldn't enjoy a classic Resident Evil. For the first couple games the series was all about exploration, backtracking, solving puzzles and playing a different route in subsequent runs. Two hours in you find a key item to unlock a door at the very beginning which opens a new area of the map. RE3make is very linear while original was very non linear.
>>732323856They want to develop that stupid proto dbd fortnite slop called RE: Verse and get money from it
To gave zoomers the exact same RE experience we boomers had in late '90.
Imagine if you beat Leon and Claire's campaigns in the remake, and then it tells you "Jill's campaign has been unlocked" and that's where the RE3 remake was. Would it have been an acceptable remake then?
>>732329902Half of RE3 is backtracking and solving puzzles all around Raccoon City for the sole purpose of getting the last train running and then crashing near the clock tower which the demake removed.Jill then has to ring the clock tower bell with a couple more puzzles and a few Nemesis fights where she gets mortally infected and you control Carlos as he traverses Raccoon City hospital for a cure.Then once Jill heals up it's the final act after a short trip to the park and into the waste disposal area for a few more shitty puzzles to get to the endgame.RE1 has more backtracking involved than 3 and with an even more limited item space especially with Chris while 2 tones down the backtracking with most of it being inside RPD, after that its smooth sailing and linear
>>732330365Resident Evil: The Raccoon City Incident? Of course but it would be an insanely bloated game.>chronological route re3 until clock tower ->re2 ->re3 when jill wakes up ->nuke>separate route only re2 or only re3>zapping system for Leon and Claire + B scenarios>live selection system for Jill + random item placement>mercenaries mode>tofu and hunk
>>732330365Acceptable as bonus content in an already decent game, not as a proper remake
>>732326856You are. REsistance was supposed to be a standalone product by Capcom Taiwan, but they saw how much of a trash fire REmake 3 was turning out to be under M-Two (not to be confused with m2). Rather than delay it, they packaged RE:sistance with REmake 3 in hopes that people would see it as a good value.
>>732330365Still would feel like a waste, I would have preferred Capcom kept their 2023 release for an RE3make than 4, a game that literally did not need a remake at all.
2 Remake's success made Crapcom churn out more of these remakes while developing Village and RequiemThey should have released Village first then work on RE3make, then release Requiem and use that Leon model for the RE4make
>>732323856Capcom half-assed the Resident Evil 2 remake and everybody loved it.
>>732330830I don't think the action shooter games needed remakes at all (6 would be interesting though if they ever attempted that).
>>732330867RE2make was a decent fully-fledged Resident Evil game after RE7 felt like classic RE-lite, which is probably why a lot of people liked it, as it was probably a gateway entry.I don't think it could match up to the original though simply because it didn't have the same charm and atmosphere but I see RE2make as its own distinct experience anyway.
>>732330867I'm glad they didn't recreate the game 1:1, at least the original wasn't replaced.
>>732331889>at least the original wasn't replaced>it's called "Resident Evil 2">[Capcom] believed that no one would want to play the old games, especially when there are “superior” remakes easily available. “Capcom were like, ‘we have all of those remakes. It’s already the superior experience to those games.’ They didn’t really see the value in bringing back the vanilla versions,” Paczynski said. As a result, GOG had to work hard to convince Capcom to approve the re-release of Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3, allowing both old and new players to access them more easily.The entire industry is currently in a replacement crisis. The original games aren't even fucking canonical anymore, only the remakes.
>>732323856They wanted to squeeze it between re2 remake and village, didnt they
>>732331976Well if you can buy the OG RE games without DRM then that's a win for me.
They did her dirty
People try to justify with "BUT OG RE3 WAS RUSHED TOO!!!!" forgetting that they still managed to expand a lot of Raccoon City and the game was more open ended than the previous 2, RE3R did the exact opposite.
>>732330931>RE2make was a decent fully-fledged Resident Evil gameDude, it fucking worse mechanically than Revelations 1
>>732331889Yeah, I glad they just bought some city asset pack, and put real effort only in some story behind the name (it was racemixing and an idea of the Asian wife)
It's a good remake and I had fun playing it, all the nitpicking and purist complaining over how it doesn't do exact same things as the original is just tiring to read
They gave the assets to shitters and told them make it do with this.
>>732324012>>732324043Bad faith posts. Even if you dislike RE2 remake it is clear to everyone that it is bigger, better and less linear than the RE3make.
>>732337139Alright, but why play it's B scenario at all?
>>732324884Yeah it was, they also moved staff between teams and it looks like 2r ended up with the bulk of talen
>>732323856>>732327498RE:3 was bundled with RE:Resistance.
>>732329902>From what i understand the main appeal of the RE3 was that it was more action packed than RE2NO ONE LIKED THAT, RETARD. The added action made it WORSE not better. Stupid fucking frog.
>>732337192Irrelevant. The B side being bad does not in any way change the fact that RE3make is worse than RE2make.
>>732337139The whole discourse is just made up bullshit by crapcom. It's like they bullied Ada's actress in re4r, just to hide the fact how shitty the VA is overall. By saying Re3r bad you emphasize Re2r is good, but they are the same game made by the same talantless tlou lovers.Proper remake of re3 would require some extra effort because og didn't work well, it was just a cool gameplay idea that barely fit to the existing maps. Those people simply can't make it
>>732337804RE2 IS good though. RE3 is bad and RE2 is good and those are simple facts.
>>732330830>2 Remake's success made Crapcom churn out more of these remakesRE3R started development before RE2R was properly unveiled to the public.
>>732324884yeah this is why they fucked up nemesis because they were surprised mrx was made into basically nemesisGOTTA SUBVERT THOSE HECKIN EXPECTATIONS
>>732323856re2 was also half assed, replaying nonsensical campaigns that are supposed to connect, both characters fighting the same bosses, shorter, police station felt like a theme park Disney attraction, bullshit enemy attacks, spongy zombies, Mr x is obnoxious, it was a mess, but since it’s one of only AAA survival horror games, it got shilled to high heavens, evil within is way better imo
>>732340353Nah , it's a perfect side grade to the original. While the OG has its upsides through proper A/B, REmake is a better survival horror experience with much tighter gameplay. The autism and lies you need to spread (like claiming it's shorter lol) is proof enough.
>>732323856Original RE3 was half-assed.>>732324012It's going to be 2036 and you morons will still be chomping at the bit to mention Demake 2 completely unprovoked. That game absolutely buckbroke you people. I can leave /v/ for years and literally nothing has changed at all with regards to RE discussion.
>>732341904I agree wholeheartedly with your second statement, but not with the first. OG3 is one of the best games in the entire series, and is just as good as 1 and 2. It takes a fat, steaming dump on CV as well. It deserved much more love with the REmake.
>play RE9 in 22 days.>play Fatal Frame II Demo on the 7th.>enjoy j horror spooks.
I just wish remake Carlos had a boss fight with Nemesis
>>732342007That's how Capcom looks at it because that's how development went. CV kind of imploding on itself from time to time does nothing to change the fact that RE3 was a spinoff that got upgraded into being 'the' sequel to RE2 and the locations after the clocktower were added on to make it feel like a more complete game.I replayed all the PS1 games over the holiday season and you can just kind of feel it. It's not bad but most games would come off as weak when they're following up on RE2.
>>732323856Officially no, but it's believed that the RE 2 & 3 remakes were originally supposed to be one game. During development Capcom announced that they were pretty much restarting development due to "issues maintaining continuity" or something like that and it's believed that this is where the split happened. They were too ambitious at first and then Capcom got greedy which was super unnecessary because RE2make did well so it's not like they were hurting for cash.
Casual normie with shit taste here. Here are the REs I've played and my opinions of them>RE4Liked it>RE7Cool until the eyeball sludge boss. >RE8Fucking shit>RE2RLiked it a lot>RE4RFucking shit>RE9Looks like shitSo will I like RE3R?
>>732343254RE3R is worse than all of them. Doesn't build from REmake 2's strengths in any way. It's super linear and filled with boring setpieces. Meanwhile, Nemesis should have been Mr. X on steroids. What didn't you like about REmake 4?
>>732343254>RE4R>Fucking shitConsidering it’s objectively superior to the original, that must mean the original should be worse than shit?
>>732343787Not him, but I can see the control's inherent input lag and inertia control irking some people, alongside the revisions to how stun and melee work. The lack of humor and charming banter also really hurts. Otherwise I do think it's a wonderful game - it just doesn't hit the same feeling.
>>732343768Thanks. As for RE4R>>732343787First game felt good play to like and the texture work is nice. RE4R feels like Leon is skating on ice and the game looks like shit. Like I said, I'm normie central, I'm going to follow my instincts when reacting to a game. In regards to OG RE4? Awesome. What a moment in gaming. RE4R? Ugly dogshit that feels like ass to play.
>>732344220>First game felt good play to like and the texture work is niceDid I have a fucking stroke? First game felt good to play and the texture work was nice*
Today I had a dream where RE4 had a movie adaptation, and Leon was played by Michael B. Jordan.
>>732344220>>732344427I feel the emphasis on interia in the REmake vs the instantaneous movement in the original was as double edged sword. The body does feel more.present, but yeah there's a "on ice" and sluggish feeling to it.On PC, I've used a few mods that change how it felt. There's a "smooth motion" mod that imo, unless it's placebo - makes Leon feel more responsive (especially with mouse and keyboard) - apparently stick input always lags a bit when using a controller.This may sound blasphemous, but I also use the trainer to zoom the camera way the fuck out. It's far enough that it's equivalent to the distance I the fixed camera angle games. Holy shit, it feels a trillion times better as an action game that way.In terms of graphics, yeah it's got a quality to it. The game does look much, much better in HDR if you have access to it.
The stupid tentacle heads and regenerating zombies killed any replayability this game had for me. It was extremely annoying and anti fun.
>>732345004I hate how easily 4R Leon can get stunned into a grab into another stun and so on. It's the single biggest annoyance for me, far more than the grab frequency, knife durability, or the weird hitstun they fixed in Mercs. Any time I got into a tight space with 3+ enemies, it seemed like the combat system just fell apart. It's not RDR2 levels of slow and over-animated, but it's the closest to that I've ever seen in RE.
>>732347991Me when I'm trying to get Jill to hook up with Rebecca.
>>732347991uncanny
>>732347991Chief Irons is in the Wesker Files
Am I the only one seeing zero performance loss from the Enigma DRM in RE4R? I see people posting side by sides of ir cutting performance in half and it's starting to feel like misinformation.
>>732323856on the contrary, I remember them saying that they were satisfied with the game's sales. they learned nothing.
>>732330830Technically village is not a real RE, it shouldn't have existed in the first place Remove the umbrella references and it's a total different game, those resources and time should've gone to re3r
They wanted to remake 4 as soon as possible
I don't remember anything good in this game, it's just an escape scene on rails.
>>732350147They have separate development teams. Regardless, 3R should have been delayed a year or more.
>>732329902some slow and atmospheric moments are always welcome in this genre. the clock tower could have been cool as shit in the remake and the park is cool in the original even. with all te omissions the game ended up being a 6 hour blind playtrough, or even 5 hours for some people. that's just embarassing.
>>732350147I didn't play Village on release because I was sour over RE3R. I'd probably have been pretty doom and gloom on the series as a whole if that was the most recent entry, but they seem to have dropped a lot of that direction.I'm cautiously optimistic for RE9, because there are some visible improvements over recent entries (Leon's animations look a lot more stiff for instance, consistent hitstun at least for the gameplay shown) but between the combat for Village and RE4R, I don't know how many devs at current Capcom really understand why RE4's gameplay worked as well as it did.
>>732350147>>732351002I actually thought Village was the best of the modern RE games, was essentially 4 but if it was more in the vein of classic RE. Very well-paced and it didn't suffer from the usual franchise problem of the final area being lame and boring, my main problem with it was just that the story was very cumbersome (which is a shame because I thought Biohazard had a decent story for once).
>>732350147Village felt like much more of an RE game than 7 to me. 7 felt like they had no confidence in the series at all and ended up not feeling in keeping with its past at all. Village had much more of what made RE interesting mechanically, at least on hardcore, with combat and resource management that didn't feel like an afterthought, as well as much more enjoyable exploration. Much of its flaws are just holdovers from 7, like too many scripted sequences and boring escape-room design.
>>732329902The main appeal of RE3 at the time was it was a great game and sequel to two other great games. It doesn’t feel insanely more action-y than the first two, it feels like more of what we liked. Exploring environments and surviving. There is a little more action but it’s not like Dino Crisis 2 compared to Dino Crisis 1.Having an already short game cut in half and then having some dishonest slant eyes and their gay zoomer supplicants gaslight us is just extra salt in the wound.
>>732342782>Officially no, but it's believed that the RE 2 & 3 remakes were originally supposed to be one game.By fucking who?REmake 2 and 3 were handled by completely different development teams. 3'a developments was rough that lead to cascading events that affected RE:sistance and supposedly 4.
>>732354290>REmake 2 and 3 were handled by completely different development teams.And? It wouldn't be the first time an RE game was developed concurrently by multiple teams.
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>>732323856Because Capcom doesn't really give a shit about RE3 outside of Nemesis being a monster they can put into crossover shit.
I fucking love Code Veronica X that I play these days.
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>>732352749>Village>essentially 4 but if it was more in the vein of classic RE>well-paced>didn't suffer from the usual franchise problem of the final area being lame and boringI cannot believe what I am reading right now.
>>732329902>never played the original>"Why is this bad again?"Kill yourself
>>732352749>I actually thought Village was the best of the modern RE gamesIt's too much of a linear sequence of scares. Too Half-Life 2. In RE, I want to be doing survival horror for an entire game, not just one boss area.And the combat just isn't that good. Almost everyone's gameplay resembles a really slow version of Serious Sam, and while Village is better about that than RE7, it doesn't hold a candle to the original RE4. RE4 had enemies with more interesting and varied challenges to deal with than just making their heads wobble a lot to nerf headshots.
RE4 remake didn't need to exist and I wish that team had made the RE3 remake instead.
well maybe in 20 years they can try again.
>>732343787Casuals want to FEEL an expert, not have the options to play like an expert. RE4R is requires strategy AND skill, while OGRE4 is a just about strategy.
>>732323856They had plans for raccoon city and it wouldn't feel fresh if they fully mapped it out in this game.
>>732356256>RE4 remake didn't need to existOGRE4 is fucking old looking. The HD Remaster makes any other remaster obsolete. And they learned a lot about how Action Combat SHOULD feel like in RE4R. RE4R at the very least plays better than any other Action Horror Game:>Dead Space>Evil Within>Cronos>The Calisto ProtocolBeing able to create a game on par with Resident Evil 4 is literally better than 99% of the industry, old or new.
STOP arguing and play Resident Evils. Any Resident Evils.
I play re3r just to goon to Jill mods
>>732362310I'm replaying Zero. gonna beat it tonight.
>>732362596I don't know how you find the strength to replay that one but good for you. Rebecca is qt.
>>732362917I hadn't played it since the gamecube, it's almost like a first playthrough.
I get the impression that they resent RE3 in general since it was a forced contractual obligation with Sony that they gave to a B-team, and it blew their A-team's project that they wanted to be the RE3 (Code Veronica) out of the water by being a better, more popular and more remembered game. Jill gets mistreated badly ever since and then so did the remake.
Proportions like that are just silly. I'll never understand that shit
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>>732362596zero’s a rough one to get up the energy to play for me so good luck.
Post the funny webms not the naked ones.
>>732363524I put her on a quick upscaler.
>>732324012you are a fucking retard. RE2R was extremely high quality, even if you disliked the changes/omissions. RE3R was blatantly janked. It was made by some jungle gook company for a tenth of the budget. Kill yourself.
My guess is it was supposed to be a $20/$30 stay busy/complementary side project to re2 remake but they got greedy and sold it full price which really hurt it.
>>732363554I'm almost done, I'm at the frogs. yeah it's rough, I basically forced myself to replay it only because it's been so long. I only bought it because it was 2 euros on the 360.
>>732354905RE6 had multiple teams working together on a massive project. That collaboration was intentional. REmake 2 and REmake 3 had seperate teams to make two different projects. Don't be retarded.
>>732363943That shit is hideous. Why do modders never just make the tits huge and leave everything else as is like pic related? It's like young men got an obesity fetish from growing up surrounded by fat chicks.
