>Creator doesn't even know what his game was even about
>it wasn't a story about AI, but artificially created intelligenceH-hai, sensei...
>>732326848Yeah, because he didn't actually write it.
>"ideas guy" is actually a fucking hack
>it wasnt about AI>it was about a digital entity gaining sentienceKojima the visionary does it yet again....
>>732326848with every passing year I understand more and more that Kojima isn't responsible for the writing in MGS.
>>732326848Kojima didn't have creative freedom during the production of MGS2. If he got said creative freedfom for a remake, Raiden would be a trans female, played by Hunter Schafer, and the nude segment of the game would show off your glorious girlcock (or gock for short)
he's rightthe story features AI, but it's not about AI. It's about data and memes
>artist tries to talk about ai without losing his mind
>>732326848>I get banned from facebook for saying nigger>whoaaaa, this is just like the patriots from MGS2>I get outsmarted by chat gupta or grok>whoaaaa, kojima predicted AI with MGS2...and death stranding was about covid lockdowns, @grok confirm pls.>>732327293Artificial Intelligence was a an element of the story but the story wasn't about AI, the game spells out its main message explicitly at least 3 times if you were too retarded to notice the themes of memetic legacies and non-genetic information getting passed on or not to the next generation.
>>732326848he wrote this with AI lol
>>732327839>>I get banned from facebook for saying nigger>>whoaaaa, this is just like the patriots from MGS2
>Characters yap about passing one their genes and memes>Is it about information? No its about AI hurr durr
Stories don't always need to be a specific topic or theme, I'd rather have creators just add cool shit for the sake of being cool than worrying too much about >muh message
>>732326848No, he is correct. GW was a simple AI, the problem was that as soon as it was connected to the internet, it didn't just grow as an AI itself, it actually caused the Internet to become alive. This is why the whole thing at the end where they say "But we destroyed GW." They only destroyed the original source. The Patriots was the Internet, it was stupid cat videos. It was the idea that people will ultimately cause their own destruction by the accumulation of trash data. Rather then a directed effort by humans to try to control humans using a "thinking machine" that they themselves had created. Instead it is a thinking machine that came into being on its own that realizes that humanity is too stupid to be entrusted with its own survival.
>>732326848>it wasn't a story about AI>it was actually a story about an emergent digital intelligence (AI)
>/v/ is so engrossed with their own memes they basically forgot what MGS2 is all aboutKojimers is right on the money. I KNEEL
He literally predicted palantir in the form it would take. The only thing stopping id locked guns is probably Americans.
>>732327947>there's a character who makes the mistake of prioritizing her own child GENES over the memetic family, her military unit and gets domed with a p90 as a reward>AI believes it needs to do eugenics and artificially select what information get passes on>an Involuntarily Celibate former president turned terrorist who is a clone of an infamous mercenary wants to leave some sort of legacy in spite of his dick being permanently turned off by his creators.>>732328028Theme of Skyrim is dragons, and Revelation 21:6 is about tap water.
>>732326848kojima is right though
>>732328107average /v/ poster probably wasn't even alive when MGS2 came out now.
>>732327758>The story featured things, but it wasn't about those things!Genius!
>>732328596metal gear is about mechas
>>732326848Many, many, many such cases
>>732326848I didn't want to see more stupid walking simulators either but here we are
>>732328596This is the dumbest take ever. It also featured a vampire but it wasn't about vampires
>>732329065It was about how the world is a vampire
>>732328107I'm not sure if the majority of modern /v/ has even played MGS2
>>732326848Kojima lacks media literacy
how does he keep doing it???????????????????
>>732326848he's right
>>732326848He's right. AI is just one facet of this huge information system. Everything you see on the internet, algorithms, social media, even here, is part of it. He wasn't talking about a specific technology.>bro it talks therefore the villain is chatgpt durr hurrPersonification is a storytelling device as old as storytelling itself.
>>732329202 Kojima predicted all of this and still got clowned on by people who didn’t get past the tanker. MGS2 was never subtle-Jack’s whole arc is just a meta-commentary on player agency and digital identity. The AI didn’t come out of nowhere, it was baked into the surveillance state and meme culture before most of /v/ even knew what memes were.
>>732329140SECRET DESTROYERS
>>732326848>entire game is babbling about memes>the game literally concludes with Kojimba meme babble>there's a specific scene in the middle of game where it was revealed that your companion were AIs, this game must be about AI since it was iconicmedia illiterate
>>732329202no but they had a video essay on it playing in the background while they played fortnite which to their peanut sized brains is basically the same thing
>Know nothing, invent everything, steal all /tv/ waifusHow can one man be so based?
>>732326848>awakens to a will ot its own out of nowhere>clanker gains free will out of nowhere>manmade toaster has feelans and acts like a human pet out of nowhereWhy are asians obsessed with this transhumanist trope
The game LITERALLY TELLS YOU it's about creating context. When MGS2 came out, the world was already knee-deep in trash information that was being produced and collected at an alarming rate.Neural network/deep learning/AI stuff was only an acceleration of this, but it fundamentally changed nothing about the direction we are headed in (the digital dark ages, brought about by an overaccumulation of information that we are simply not equipped to wade through)."That's what it means to 'create context'".THE GAME SPOONFED THIS TO YOU
>>732326848It wasn't about AI.... It was about OI(Organic Intelligence)...
>>732326848>It wasn't about AI.>Describes what AI is.>It wasn't a future I wanted!>But I will fully embrace using AI for my games.If MGS wasnt fun to play this retard would be working in a fucking dvd shop.Metal Gear Solid has been shit since the first game.
>>732326848He meant "meme" literally. Living memes.
What pisses me the fuck off is the retarded video essay about MGS2 being a "'"vr simulation""'.No it's fucking NOT. The events of the game DID happen, they just were ORCHESTRATED, like a theater play.The game goes out of the way to spoonfeed this to you too, using a very specific word "REHEARSAL".> BUT CORONEL SAYS SIMULATION AND SNAKE MAKES FUNNY JOKE ABOUT INFINITE AMMO ALSO THE HEXAGON OF ARSENAL GEAR MAKES NO SENSE.This is what happens when schizos take things to seriously.I wish I could make my own fucking video to call that retard out.
>>732326848Mgs 2 was about stealth, the gameplay is king always first and foremost, you can take your b-movie faggotry and shove it up your ass
>>732334498>the gameplay is king always first and foremostAnd yet any discussion of it calls it clunky and outdated, or complains about the swimming sections. It's always "da game preickt the future 0_o"
>>732334665Nah the gameplay is very good, my main issue with it are the nightmarish requirements for the Big Boss rank, a stealth game shouldn't reward speed and massive risk taking imo
there's a difference between intelligence and awareness.
