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What's wrong with using AI art to speed up making HD assets if you're an artist?
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EVERYTHING
YOU'RE ACTIVELY SLITTING THE THROATS OF HARD WORKING COMRADES
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>>732338771
You're not an artist
You're brown
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I've yet to see a dev actually touch up over the AI to the point where you can't tell its not AI anymore
'Fuck it that'll do' seems to be the norm for people who use it
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everything you post is garbage and I wish you killed yourself before you ever even think about posting anything about your shitty """game""" you filthy faggot
trashy attwhore
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>>732338839
post hands
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>>732338771
What's wrong with AI-genning a game for myself and not buying yours?
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>>732338854
and how would you know its not ai anymore if they touched up over it to the point you cant tell its ai anymore?
really boggles the mind the amount of cattle like you that exists
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>>732338771
you're literally committing genocide by using AI chud
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>Can instantly recognize a Cris dogshit thread from the catalog
Grim
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>>732338890
I think seeing marked differences between the races and it still being recognizably anime, is nice. Just trace over it and your good to go against these faggot autists
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>>732338854
you're the same type of retard who says attractive trans ppl dont exist
dumbdumb have you ever pondered the simple fact that if they are attractive and passing you acnt even clock that they are trans to begin with
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>>732338854
Expedition 33 did this and the only reason people were able to clock it was because they accidentally left one minor placeholder asset in the game.
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>>732339114
Hugo...
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>>732338854
people like you remind me just how retarded the average poster is
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>>732339243
Prove him wrong with data, or else you're just as retarded :)
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>>732338854
>lazy people make shit no matter to took
tale as old as time
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>>732338771
AI is just a tool. When combined with effort, it is great.
https://files.catbox.moe/fxqgq1.mp4
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>>732339379
some people can visualize things in their minds so no thank you mr cattle
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>>732338771
even in tekken, a game with almost identical upper torsos, assets were not re-used. every guy has his own upper body textures
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>>732338771
trannies will have to get real jobs
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>>732339601
trans people tend to be a lot smarter on average and smarter people tend to be selfmade doe
chuds on the other hand have it the opposite way
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I don't FUCKING care, just make good games.
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>>732339601
They can start at mcdonalds
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>>732339149
>that if they are attractive and passing you acnt even clock that they are trans to begin with
You can by virtue of the fact that they themselves will either have a blatant signal somewhere on their person and/or bring the topic up entirely unprompted.
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>>732339710
your black and white thinking is why you are a failed loser by the way
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>>732339508
>>lazy people make shit no matter to took
pls speak english rajesh
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cris, if AI is so good, could you please make ONE good game with it instead of obsessing about workflows 24/7? it's pathetic
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cri tricked some more newfags it seems.
anyways, fuck off cris.
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>>732338824
*uses AI even more*
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>>732340015
who's cri and what does he know about cris
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>>732338824
>In my communist paradise I will be an artist

Funny how every champagne socialist always envisions themselves as a creative, and not the much more likely "field slave".
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>>732339823
And here I thought it was because of my commitment issues.
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>>732339096
>>732339149
>>732339601
>>732339823
Always funny how the AI jeets are the ones who end up being the most ESL retards in any given thread. You can immediately tell which ones they are even if you don’t read what they’re actually saying because they always type in all lowercase and in broken, preschool-level English.
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>>732338995
Nothing what so ever. What's stopping you?
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>AI tools are shat out to the public at large
>ideaguys STILL just jerk off to the idea of making games instead of doing them
2 more weeks
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>ai hater posts are more copypasted and artificial than ai gens
Wobbles the noggin innit
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>>732338854
>'Fuck it that'll do' seems to be the norm for people who use it
That's the theme with AI slop, it's some intern or whoever the fuck generating a low effort shit and going "good enough"
People hate AI because there is no passion in it. It exists solely to push the product out as fast as possible with as little work as possible.
And while that might work for shit like "art" on grocery bags, it doesn't work for games and other products which you can absolutely tell if they were made with passion or just "good enough, let's ship it".
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Bro, you have no aesthetic sense. It’s just straight up missing from your brain.
Maybe if you worked in a team and let someone else handle the visuals.
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>>732338771
You're asking a shitty question, though probably intentionally exactly to get the falseflagging replies and whatnot.
The divide between the groups rejecting and accepting AI is at the core of their being. No matter what problem there is with using AI in general, including your strawman, they will always be ignored by those accepting it or even lauded cause for one reason or another they have some sort of hatred against actual artists.
So the arguments for or against are irrelevant because the values here are completely different. One side values the process and where it came from, the other values the end result dreaming of the day everything they want will be given to them, drooling to the idea of the "perfect" game/movie to either consume or sell (nevermind the detail where in such a world countless of these projects will flood and therefore be valued next to nothing.)
All that matters is the decisions of people behind building these image gens and any who might have the power to restrict them.
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>>732338824
Using steam shovels is taking important ditch digging jobs from comrades!

>Sancho, Those windmills are actually giants stealing jobs from grain millers.
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>>732340471
They literally think that communism is when the government prints free money for everyone and no one ever has to work again.
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>>732342654
>comparing digging a hole to art
You could have just said that you don't have a soul, no need for stupid comparisons
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>>732343448
You will dig the hole, or you will be executed. Art is only for propaganda in your commie "paradise"
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This is the most successful thread that Cris has made in quite some time
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>>732343546
>the commune already has an artist, it's an AI
>now start digging
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>>732343564
Is Chris the famous anti-AI anon that constantly compares AI to NFTS?
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>>732338854
AI is basically celebration of mediocrity. Its like the new guy they hire that just does everything "good enough", aka kinda shit but not enough to actually bother to make the effort to correct it. But its still annoying as shit and nobody likes that guy. Thats AI in 99.9% of usecases.
>b-but it COULD look good!
Yea, and I COULD get off my ass and work out every single day and eat next to nothing until I have a near Olympic level physique. Will I? Probably not. You wouldnt commend me for having the potential to do something good if all Im doing is laying on my ass and eating burgers, why the fuck are you complimenting the potential of AI when 99.9% of usecases range from utter shit to "eh good enough if you dont look at it too hard"? It reminds me of fat fucks that want to be "validated" for being fat. No, fuck you, you're fat. You didnt nothing of note, it is easy to get fat, it is hard to stay in shape. This is coming from someone whose 20lbs overweight, I shouldnt be praised for being a fat fuck. I did nothing worth of praise.
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>>732343891
No, he's a retarded bald spic who's been trolling /ic/, /g/ and /v/ for more than a decade.
He's also pro AI and likes to use "chud" a lot.
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>>732344328
>You did* nothing of note
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>>732338854
>I haven't noticed any AI that would be good enough that I would not notice it's AI.
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>>732338771
The thing is AI has its own "unique" styles which can range from obviously AI to slightly off from normal. Using it as a tool to generate assets either requires a lot of time training it to produce usable images or a significant amount of time fixing/editing it. Either way, it is not worth it for the effort required.
>>732338854
Some people do touch up AI a bit, however, it is still noticeable.
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>>732343448
You're making a product not art, you're not an artist but rather an artisan unless you're doing furry shit then you're a faggot.
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>>732338771
>if you're an artist
but you're not an artist, Cris
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>>732338854
>I've yet to see a dev actually touch up over the AI to the point where you can't tell its not AI anymore
Think about this sentence long and hard, anon.
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>>732344840
>everything is a product, zero passion should be put into it, because it's just a commodity for people to buy, nothing else
the future is so fucking grim
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>>732344328
I feel the same way about digital art. If you are not putting ink/graphite/paint to paper or canvas then you are just pretending and celebrating mediocrity. You think using a waccom is "good enough" but it is a cheap insincere imitation of the real thing. If what you made is intangible and lives as a collection of ones and zeros it is just a cheap masturbatory attempt at something real.
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>>732338771
What kind of assets? Is your game 2D or 3D? Is it a visual novel no one will play in the first place? Please use nuance.
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>>732345140
If you are putting passion into a product so a CEO and share holders can get rich you are fucking retarded. If you do an oil painting on some canvas because you want to and with no real goal of selling it then that is truly art,

Being a corporate slave is very anti art. I can't believe I have to actually say that.
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>>732345759
>le rich
go back
seriously, go the fuck back
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I guarantee you that the only people who genuinely hate AI are hack artists butthurt that they’ve been made obsolete.

>inb4 AI produces slop
And low-tier human artists don’t? All AI was raise people’s standards so that shitty doodles are no longer acceptable because trash AI art looks better than trash human art. The artists who actually produce good art have not been affected at all. In fact c some of them even use AI as a tool/aid in some places because they’re not luddites. No artist who isn’t a hack feels threatened by AI.
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>>732347375
>All AI was raise people’s standards
lmfao
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>>732338824
I hope they all die.
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>>732340967
low IQ post
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>>732338771
I would say it´s pretty inefficient, considering you´ve regurgiated aislop for several years and you still haven´t made any progress on releasing a game
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>>732338771
Good morning sir.
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>>732338771
>speed up
AI is just stealing.
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>>732338854
I've done this but I'll never tell anyone.
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>>732345140
Games have never been anything but toys.
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>>732348629
Isn’t all art stealing considering that everything is inspired by something else?
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>>732348629
suddenly /v/ cares about piracy and lost sales
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>>732348729
Yes, but anti AI fags hate when you bring that up and will screeech instead of discussing it with you.
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made this cus i'm bored.
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>>732348629
Why steal yourself if your PC does it for you?
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>>732348795
ai is straight up replacing actual artists. once that talent pool is drained every game is going to look like complete garbage and games take more shortcuts skewering quality.
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>>732349306
MAGA art will become dominant after decades of being gatekept.
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>>732349306
People aren’t going to stop wanting to become artists just because a computer can do it too. It’ll just be a more dedicated niche.

It’s like how CGI didn’t eliminate stop-motion, but instead made it a niche.
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>>732349306
So just don't buy those games?
I wouldnt pay for slop either.
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>>732349306
artists will not go away but nobody will want to look at your dogshit art anymore

it's better for everyone like that
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>>732338771
Nothing, but naturally I assume your art is then free as a result. After all you didn't make it, AI did.
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>>732349593
I never pay for vidya.
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>>732349651
>I will not pay for that cotton, after all your slave picked it and not you
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>>732338771
it looks shit
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>>732349776
You see, when AI topics leave the concept of artwork it's suddenly ok. Only AI art is the spawn of satan that must be purged
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>>732347373
Enjoy sucking corporate cock and pretending you're an "artist"
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>>732349447
>its like how we got lazy transformers films, star wars films and avatar films because people will exploit the shit out of a system and trim out as much talent and reprint as much as possible because they no longer care about the franchise they just want the cheque
supporting this sure is disgusting
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>>732338771
What's wrong is that redditors will be very upset with you.
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>>732349306
>ai is straight up replacing actual artists.
Good they are horrible people, I know because I did 4 years of art school
>every game is going to look like complete garbage
They already look like soulless slop and have for at least a decade
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>>732349617
The most truthful post in this thread
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>>732350003
>only the industry that employs the most disgusting, vile, spiteful and dysgenic pieces of shit should be shielded from technological progress and everyone else should lose their jobs
no
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>>732350379
>>732349617
>>732349306
copium, you can't tell if it was made with AI
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>>732345390
What makes you hold that opinion? Because you have an undo button on digital art?
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>>732350445
I can. Easily.
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>>732338771
Prompt?
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>>732350658
Not with your 3rd world eyes.
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>>732350564
Because it's not tangible thus not really real. You can print it on a printer, that's an improvement but that's still kind of lame and will never have the soul of something that was actually painted with real paint on real canvas/paper. It's tactile, you can feel it and you can smell it. Purely digital art doesn't feel real (because it isn't) and is soulless.
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>>732338771
If you're the /d/artist that originally drew these characters in /conj/ last thread, and now you're using AI, I've lost all respect for you. The girls are cute and their concept is interesting. I particularly liked the one where a guy's fucking their bottom half and two pairings of the girls are making out with each other. Majorly dissapointed if you're using AI now. Pick that fucking pencil back up.
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>>732350658
Uh huh sure buddy
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>>732338771
As someone who regularly commissions artists the actual reason is just that AI art is kinda gay and all looks the same.
I actually am not offended by it. I think AI art is fine for placeholder stuff, for making jerk off material, or even for references to give to artists. I much prefer when I actually commission something though. Typing in a prompt is boring trial and error to get something you eventually think looks okay. Commissioning a quality artist feels like you're some Doge paying an artist to make jerk off material completely just for you.
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>>732351261
>I've lost all respect for you
Oh no a fat, ugly, kissless virgin doesn't respect me anymore, how will I ever survive?!
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>>732351261
Kill yourself faggot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tszW2ag_NA
Thoughts?
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>>732351307
>is just that AI art is kinda gay and all looks the same
skill issue
issue of skill
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>>732351709
>>>/wsg/6086894
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>>732350224
CGI is a tool. It has its uses like everything else. Trying to invalidate it is as dumb as trying to invalidate stop motion because it doesn’t involve actual human actors.

>>732351903
Most people are genuinely bad at prompting and will accept anything an AI model shits out rather than taking the effort to compile references and effectively describe what they’re after. It’s a machine— it puts out what you put in.
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>>732352202
Low effort slop gets more traction because there's an endless supply of artists to seethe at it.
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>>732351903
Not really, dude. I think solidly 90% (and I do mean 90%) looks the same. It is all that super rendered, wet style that it has basically been using for porn since AI first got capable of genning it. It is just now the hands/cocks/assholes are correct.
You can try to force it to look like a different style but with much worse results. I have yet to see anyone gen smut that actually looked significantly different than the usual genned smut without it being super low quality due to the lack of material for the LLM to use.

For regular pictures or erotica the styles are more varied, but for actual pornographic material, I personally have not seen much different out there.
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>>732338854
https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/
This is stylegan 2, technology from 2020. 6 years ago.
Keep pressing F5 and tell me you could easily tell that all of those were made by AI. Now imagine if a professional did some touch up on those.
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>>732338771
Looks like shit
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>>732349157
good post
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why don't people just make AI art of their characters, run it through a pixel art generator, and make a quirk chungus RPG maker game that'll instantly become popular
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>>732352448
just say that you're a retard and that your only exposure is r34 and that you've never actually tried to use anything local.
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>>732353020
Feel free to post some of your material, censored or w/e so you don't get banned. I know people with local gens. They look the same as all the shit you see on r34 or anywhere else. Maybe a bit different, but instantly recognizable as AI without anyone saying anything.

Gen'd art is always recognizable and does very little for me. The real danger is AI assisted artists. I had to charge back an artist a month ago because I found out they used AI to render the piece but they did the sketch/linework themselves.
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>>732352985
because it's still a lot of work
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>>732338771
>What's wrong with using AI art to speed up making HD assets if you're an artist?

Okay so here an actual take no one as really considered. When AI gets used more and more, while it's considered "dishonest" and "disingenuous", companies now have an excuse to filter out talents they don't want. So take for fact that just about everything AI Generated leans towards anime styles, companies can now turn away anime artists and people who make similar styles on the grounds they feel AI was involved. So then when that happens that then means as an artist would now need something akin to a talent agency, a third party to voucher for your work and find you gigs so you bypass this new filtering selection. The shit that basically killed the mainstream industry with agencies and record labels. AI as helpful as it is logically, can be use to force a new system on creative talents that makes them have to give away their Ip rights to something akin to a record label if they want into the industry now.
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>>732353373
What? No lol. We just need less artists. The ones that are bitchy and complain all the time get turned into onions.
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>>732338771
RAM and electronic prices have gone through the fucking roof because of AI.

And you AI fags are to blame.
I hope all that AI goonslop was worth it.
enjoy paying out the ass you niggers.
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>>732353492
>We just need less artists
No you retard, less creative types is how everything got filtered and consolidated into literally one side of the social/political spectrum.
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If you can't make proper HD assets, maybe you should ask yourself if you actually need them.
Making shit look expensive and detailed just for the sake of it isn't really worth it I think. Many games resort to simple but consistent styles that have their own charm. With AI you will probably only end up making your game look like shovelware.
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>>732353149
>I had to charge back an artist a month ago because I found out they used AI to render the piece but they did the sketch/linework themselves.
that's literally using AI the way OP describes.
you can input a sketch if you want. or you can do a basic prompt, draw over it and then upscale it and do very large changes. you can train the model to actually do things in whatever fucking style you want. You can then also take that output and draw over it to correct errors/fix things.
AI image gen can be used quite literally just as a tool.

either way being hardstuck on default style is the very absolute definition of skill issue.
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>>732353373
And the solution is for people to stop complaining about AI, and accept it as normal, just like Uber and the advance of AI for map routing.
But the artists are too dumb to see two feet forward into the future and fucking themselves up in the long term.
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the only people mad about this are retards making shit so generic that AI is on par with their work, or retards who pay random niggas on twitter for art
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ppm raising post
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>>732353971
What the artist think don't matter, the companies probably have been pushing this the moment AI generation became a thing commercially
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>>732338771
First time I've seen one of your threads get so big
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>>732354427
I see the opposite. I see companies trying to embrace the usage of AI, and the artists complaining, making them add features to block AI art and such.
If AI was just seen as a tool like any other, there would be less reason for companies to try to weed out artists based on usage of AI.
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>>732338771
Kill yourself, cris
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>>732353971
They’ll accept it, just like they accepted every other technological innovation throughout human history. This controversy is only happening because AI is still quite new and low-skilled artists feel threatened. I’ve not seen any high-tier professional artists complaining about AI. In fact, they seem to embrace it. It only seems to be unskilled liberal artists who used to cheer about automation taking jobs that are complaining.

Give it time. It’ll be the norm.
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>>732338771
Just dont say its AI assisted or AI generated.
There. Problem solved
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>>732354756
Oh, don't worry, I don't think it will not happen. It's just that if what Anon had said happens, it will be 100% their own fault, which is funny.
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>>732354756
Are you fucking retarded? People wanted automation to take manual labor away so they had more free time to pursue arts. Now we have robots that are mostly taking up the cushy non-labor jobs and leaving us with the manual labor and soon they'll take the manual jobs as well but we won't get basic income, we'll just be forced into shittier places until we die or become actual slaves.
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>>732355101
AI is incapable of replacing humanity because it requires human input to guide it and review its work. Otherwise, it just produces garbled nonsense. It’s literally just a tool. And as for replacing the arts, if you think a machine can do better than you at the arts, then maybe that’s a reflection of your own skill rather than the ethics of tech.
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>>732354756
tbdesu the big part of the outrage is that it started coming up right after the insane dumbass boom that extremely low skill "character sketch" market got during covid where everyone had an influx of disposable income because they couldn't go out and actually do things.
so bad artists got accustomed to being paid $20-50 for 20-40 minutes of low quality work for a year only to then have that disappear as the world went back to normal and then on top of that got kicked in the teeth by AI coming along and doing a better job than they could for a penny's worth of electricity.
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>>732355594
sure sounds like karma to me
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>>732353149
https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=drawfag
there's still boring default slop mixed in but this is probably the easiest way of seeing varied artstyles from people using image gen.
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>>732338771
It's effortless, created by something with literally no soul, and therefore soulless by definition.
If you make something yourself and it looks like shit, it can be quite soulful because you did it yourself.
>inb4 someone posts the AI image of sonic that looks like a crayon drawing
Doesn't prove anything.
I don't like AI "art" because it just feels lazy, I'm sure you can give me a wall of text explaining why you REALLY NEED such and such asset to be generated, but I really don't care.
Processkino > productslop
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>>732356207
I feel the same about digital art. It is completely soulless. If you need electrons instead of paint/pencil/ink to make your so called art it can never truly be art. If I literally can't feel it, how can it touch me (metaphorically for you autists)

I don't like digital art because it feels lazy. I'm sure you can give me a wall of text explaining why you REALLY NEED a waccom and a computer to generate assets, but I really don't care. Tangible > Virtual
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>>732338771
it will make future media even less original and imaginative as everything takes from the same database of AI slop
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>>732356207
At the end of the day you're seething over bits and pixels. I don't care if it's made by A.I. or a pig pretending to be human it's still digital slop. Learn to paint with paint, learn to sculpt, learn to develop film.

The retards acting like they some kind of art purist jacking of over digital art is just pathetic. Like retarded children arguing.
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>>732356697
>electrons instead of paint/pencil/ink
All of those things are made of electrons, dude.
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>>732356801
Yea modern media is so original, every american animation sure is not copy pasting the shit bean mouth calarts style at all, nope that's totally not happening.
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>>732356927
Part of art is adapting with the times. Otherwise, we’d still be doing cave paintings.
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>>732356969
Ok fine, moving electrons in the form of electricity. You happy you autist that must be a ton of fun at parties?
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>>732354671
>I see companies trying to embrace the usage of AI, and the artists complaining
You underestimate how limited AI actually is. The reason any artist unironically complaining about ai doesn't get taken, or rather shouldn't be taken seriously is because any one with an actual eye for detail can easily spot AI mistakes, and if you are an artist it. should be even easier. AI still lacks the capacity for consistent animation or visual assets in general. For Ai competent for that it would cost them way too much to maintain that than it would to just hire people.
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>>732357102
So are you saying the anti A.I. people are wrong and that they must adapt to the times??
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>>732356207
plenty of non-AI art is also lazy
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>>732357135
>Ok fine, moving electrons in the form of electricity
all electrons move based on the form of electricity.
You shouldn't try to use words you don't understand, what are you trying to say? Say it simply, please.
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>>732357341
Making art with out electricity you pedantic autistic retard
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What exact quality does 4chan have that makes it so attractive to jeets? This website collectively hates them more than reddit, facebook, and twitter combined and yet /v/, /int/ and /pol/ are at least 60% indian.
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>>732357472
You can't do that.
Literally everything you can touch is made of electricity at the lowest level.

Do you just mean "without a computer"?
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>>732357140
This. The only way AI art can fly under the radar is if it’s touched up by a human afterwards to smooth out the imperfections, which is how most professionals in the industry are using AI right now. No one who’s actually competent is complaining about AI. The ones complaining are the ones who know that they suck deep down, and are too hubristic to improve their skill to be better than the AI.

>>732357202
Yes.
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>>732357140
>The reason any artist unironically complaining about ai doesn't get taken, or rather shouldn't be taken seriously is because any one with an actual eye for detail can easily spot AI mistakes
are you unironically retarded?
the problem isn't being able to tell it's AI (which facebook boomers falling for the most blatantly shitty AI proves most can't tell), it's that regardless of how much you can tell it's slop, mr sheklestein is still going to shovel it straight into your face on every release and fire 90% of his company you negative IQ ape
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>>732338771

It really bothers me that the top people are not in the same order as the bottom people.

>>732338854
Is this nigga for real??
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>>732338771
I would use AI for my game but it doesn't do stuff in the format I need, even retro diffusion is kind of meh, I don't need "High-Res inventory items"
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>>732357472
I painted some art.
The room was lit by a lightbulb.
The art could not have been made without that electric lightbulb.
Is it still art to you?
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>>732357140
You simply have no idea how Ai is used professionally.
Of course image and video generation is not good enough to make a finished product from just the ramblings of a manager, if it was, there would be no reason to hire traditional/digital artists.
AI is used for sketches, textures, placeholders, palette testing, etc.
Just like it's common for programmers to have AI assist auto-complete code and find references and functions in docs without having to spend hours reading through them.
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anons would you fuck a pair of ice cream legs
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>>732339601
>real jobs
Hmm, I wonder what they're building all those robot dogs and humanoid robots for.
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>>732357816
anon (me) would even fuck a pair of ice
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The nip artists most people base their LoRAs and gens off of, who at vest just put a watermark over their art that everyone ignore and deletes anyway, and the people shrieking on twitter, are not the same people and I don't know why people keep conflating the two.
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>>732357472
your brain runs on electricity
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>>732338771
Nothing. This aversion to AI is identical to the aversion to Photoshop from 30 years ago. It's just the latest tool to assist artists.
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>>732357824
There's no real need anyway, UBI is pretty clsoe now
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>>732358220
the strategy is to pretend that artists are all obnoxious woke lefty trannies so that people will accept the slop
nevermind the fact that we're in a board for people whom (I would assume) are fans of videogames, an artistic product made by artists and which constantly complaints about the "enshittyfication" of videogames and art in general
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>>732358315
Get real anon. You know the UBI is the carrot to the stick, and they're going to be looking at "which is cheaper and gets us more power"?
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Why are there so many lazy neets with extreme and unhinged vendettas against artists? Like, that's basically the basis for their support of ai slop, they think they're sticking it to the ultimate villains lol
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Ok, whats with the daily AI ragebait threads on /v/ and /a/? Are the AI bros mad that we nuked their roleplaying general?
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>>732358813
Because of the number of insane artists in the industry who in the most extreme cases are calling for the death of anon, or at least fucking up video games.

That nutcase who got fired from Ghost of Yotei and the art director who insisted on gay face fungus to own the chuds on avowed come to mind off the top of my head.
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>>732339527
That still looks like shit.
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>>732358874
It's been like that for a while, long before dalle thread got purged. Some tards try to push the narrative that AI is good because artists bad because every single artist is a twitter schizo or something like that. Dunno if they get paid for it or if they do it for free, but there's no point in engaging with them.
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>>732358874
site is dying/dead and needs artificial engagement to seem attractive to advertisers
also
>/a/
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>>732358431
>video games
>art
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>>732338771
you know what, cris
do it
just fucking do it
I'm giving you permission
use ai for the graphics
use ai for the code
just make your fucking game and shut the fuck up
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>>732338771
yeah yeah politics.

what the fuck is that image
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>>732358813
Because the culture wars want you to expend all of your energy and attention on meaningless outrage and endless pursuit of The Enemy. In this way, they can take your jobs, take your healthcare, take your identity and then push you into the grave while you're doing exactly as you're told, when you're told, and how you're told.

Now HATE. Waste all of your energy on HATE.
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>>732359045
>Because of the number of insane artists in the industry who in the most extreme cases are calling for the death of anon, or at least fucking up video games.
Oh you poor victim. Guess what games these guys are working on? AAA slop. So anons with terrible taste are playing AAA slop and somehow that's everyone elses' fault? Maybe if they had decent taste they'd support good artists making good games, and then they wouldn't just generalize artists as being the ultimate evil
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>>732338854
I think it's because if you have the motive to create, you wouldn't use AI in the first place
The artists I saw jump on AI as soon as it gotgud... hadn't drawn for 5-10 years prior

>>732339149
Why are trannies now backing AI?
I thought they were the ones who hated it?

>>732345390
>>732345759
>>732351237
>>732356697
>this attention whore autist again
Your art sucks
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>>732358813
projection
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>>732338771
What if I want to spend 6 hours making a single piece?
what if I LIKE the process anon? what if I want to do, execute things exactly the want I want it, exactly how I Imagined them.
what if I by the same logic, appreciate and enjoy art that was created with effort and passion, and I'm actually able to see it every time, because I'm an actual artist, and not a promt monkey
what if saving time is not an advantage at all?
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>>732359612
Oh no you don't. You asked "why the hostility"? I gave you the "why", and now you completely ignore your initial position and go on some ridiculous tangent.

Not buying your recontextualization and don't' give a fuck about your opinions on AAA and taste. You trying your best turbobtich act isn't going to changed anon's spending habits anyways. . And shitpost with /v/ related images next time.
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>>732358813
The art community throughout the 2010s was a Tumblr influenced ivory tower community. AI destroyed that echo chamber by democratising art. Now, anyone can make anything and its absolutely mindbreaking the ideologues seeking to control the arts.

If anything, AI is a net positive for art.
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>>732359906
then you can keep doing whatever you want, it's a free country, no one here is your dad.
just don't be surprised if an employer doesn't want to pay you to do what YOU want to do instead of what THEY want(and are paying for) you to do
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>>732359906
>what if I LIKE the process
then keep drawing nigger, no-one's stopping you
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>>732359906
No one is forcing you to. But don't complain when people don't want to pay you for a 10/10 work when they can pay a fraction of the cost at a minute's notice for an 8/10.
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>>732359906
Show us your shit. /v/ related of course.
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>completely non-videogame thread
>still up 6 hours later
janny status?
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>>732358813
They saw some faggot on twitter draw a black version of an anime character and decided that all artists are the enemy and must die, they have the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old
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>>732358813
Online people are psychotic, they can't differentiate between real life and fiction.
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>>732359960
>sjws are ruining vidya! We need to gatekeep!
>No, you see, it's a terrible thing for artists to gatekeep art, art should be inclusive of useless low iq neets.
vee posters really are something else, almost as bad as redditors nowadays
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convenience is the death of creativity
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>>732339104
kek, i didn't think i'd see his autism in other boards
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>>732360568
Why the fuck would I want to help the SJWs that ruined gaming in the first place? You don't gatekeep out of principle but out of necessity.
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>>732360568
Go back there and never come back
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>>732360383
What they did was worse. They fixed Rouge the Bat for "modern audiences".
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>>732361116
how was that the fault of artists?
that was suits trying to appeal to screeching terminally-online westoids
aritsts are the ones who made rouge the bat in the first place, anon
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>>732361480
Artists were the westoids pressuring them to do so. Almost every sjw were self proclaimed artists, that's why the sphere was made so liberalized.
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>>732361042
You guys are hypocrites and a blight to art. Literally worse than sjws at this point.
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>>732362232
You're an idiot who's political views were shaped by this shitpile
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>>732362246
You are a massive retard and you need to go back to whatever shithole you came from.
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>>732362469
Nigga i was there, watching it all happen in real time.
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>>732362548
I'm just trying to get you guys to self-reflect a bbit
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>>732361480
Screeching terminally-online westoid is a good description of the average twitter artist.
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>>732362554
Wow, I've actually witnessed the highest level. Amazing.
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>>732362246
>you guys are hypocrites
kill yourself you gay beanmouth
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Off topic vent kinda but
>see news about generative AI being actually useful and not just cooperate slop
>there’s that one poster (woman) that goes “ Umm no sweetie this is LLM and is 100 percent different from Gen AI I definitely know what I’m talking about and not a mindless drone tee hee”
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>>732363019
>one poster (woman)
stopped reading your mindless garbage there, you're no better than anything
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>>732358813
Acting like an insane retard gives you likes.
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>>732362843
And I'm witnessing the highest order of faggot deny what happened.
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>>732363019
>>732361480
>>732359460
you type like a jeet, you space like a jeet, your posts make no sense.

>>732358431
>the strategy is to pretend that artists are all obnoxious woke lefty trannies so that people will accept the slop

probably this, happened with the insane tranny shitposting to the point people unironically shopped their dicks off, these threads reads like propaganda. /g/ never acted like this when the diffusion started, these are outsiders trying to push their shitty agenda.
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>>732363495
Oh yes. Poor multibillion dollar corporations and supreme political powers got bullied by twitter artists into making everything lame and gay. Yes, makes perfect sense.
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>>732363153
You caught me I was debating on if I should mindlessly project or not

>>732363521
Don’t compare me to your scapegoat
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>>732362616
self reflect is what you do when you've wronged someone
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>>732338771
AI is just other people styles patterns in machine language. Using it is no different than tracing or just balant copying. You want to speed up for profit
and i get that, but at the same time you could create something completely yours. Even if quality would be worse i think it's more fun.
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>>732343546
The Chinese love gay people now. Just a different era, anon.
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>>732358813
because indians and other browns increased their access to the internet
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>>732364168
It’s literally india
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>>732364212
India, Africa, SEA Canada. I hate jews so much it's unreal.
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>>732363521
illiterate retard
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Tranniecels fear the AI.
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>>732338771
>What's wrong with tracing to speed up making HD assets if you're an artist?
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>>732362246
Art doesn't exist, retard, it's just some lines with colors that trick your mind. This is why it's so easy for AI to replicate.
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>>732358813
cris can't draw for shit and his 3d models are nightmare inducing so he tries to cope by using ai to "make" something remotely appealing
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>>732359906
Good
Then you have remained sane
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>>732364963
fuck off cris
thanks anon, now I can get back to work for fear of stagnating
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>>732364963
anyone have a modern version? I've seen at least 4 or 5 but never one from at least 2025
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>>732359906
>people always bring up this argument of getting exactly what they want
>while I just start with some vague idea and find some shape that expresses what I want while kind of trying to adhere to cartooning techniques and then fill in the details after the construction is good enough
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wtf did she do to you people
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>>732363741
That's not what happens. What happens is that companies hire millennials. Millennials are puritanical and retarded and make millennial decisions which makes everything boring and gay.

Not even millennials want to consume millennial media because it's so boring and gay so everything just stagnates until even companies like Ubisoft go bankrupt because millennials are so fucking dumb holy shit I hate millennials so fucking much.
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>ageism
ok rabbi
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>use Gen AI to generate your whole game
>throw everything out and do it yourself
Who else haha?
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>>732338771
Because not only do you need to feed your own personal data to some big company's data base, for it to (poorly) replicate what you've already drawn previously, but you're more than likely to spend a lot of time still fixing a bunch of smaller issues anyways.
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>>732338839
You're more than autist
You're green
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>>732367089
sneed
portugal moment
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>>732339114
I was just thinking about this, lol. It really does look like shrek's hand
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>>732338854
because you basically have to do a new painting from scratch to make it truly not look fucked up. the time investment required to make ai not look like ai is worse than just painting
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>>732364963
fuck off cris
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>>732338839
You spoke the truth. Now OP is in shambles.
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>>732364963
fuck off cris
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>>732371312
>t. ranny



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