>When we announced these products in November, we planned on being able to share specific pricing and launch dates by now,’ reads a blog post from Valve.>‘But the memory and storage shortages you’ve likely heard about across the industry have rapidly increased since then. The limited availability and growing prices of these critical components mean we must revisit our exact shipping schedule and pricing (especially around Steam Machine and Steam Frame).’>Valve insists its launch goals for all its new hardware hasn’t changed, but it is now saying the plan is to have them out ‘in the first half of the year,’ which means the Steam Machine may not launch till as late as JuneIs it over Steam Machine bros?
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With how the deck performed you expected these to make a dent or even survive vetting?
>>732347474The price being higher than anyone wanted killed all hype so Steam is delaying it until they can drop the price. I've not seen a console fall off everyone's radar faster than this and I lived thru the Jaguar.
>>732347617it's not a console
>>732347651Thats another reason people don't want it, the autism with the marketers and branding are literally killing this thing in the crib before it has a chance.
>>732347617They wont drop the price to $399 you are never getting this for less than $799 anons who make and reply in these threads for the sake of discussion are delusional.
>>732347707it shouldn't have been marketed like a console at all, it simply isn't one and was never going to be priced competitively with the console market even before the prices skyrocketed.
>>732347707You can see the marketers assigned to this thread get noticeably more upset after this post.
>>732347835>tell people that the machine was always going to be overpriced>get accused of being a 'marketer'what kind of logic is this?they tried steam machines before, it's a dumb product concept.
>>732347474Reminder HL3 was supposed to be a launch title with this and you can blame Altman that it still hasn't been announced
>>732348202>HL3 literally being held back by weak last-gen hardwarefucking grim
>>732348001No one accused you of being a marketer
>>732348581there were only 2 posts after anon posted that, use your brain
>>732347617There are no brakes on the AI train. The prices of RAM will not come down for the next few yearsWaiting is pointless. Things are only going to get worse
>>732347545Go check the community updates on the Steam Hardware listing, on Steam itself.>But the memory and storage shortages you’ve likely heard about across the industry have rapidly increased since then. The limited availability and growing prices of these critical components mean we must revisit our exact shipping schedule and pricing (especially around Steam Machine and Steam Frame).’I still don't get this, they have MILLIONS of units already manufactured and rotting away in warehouses, waiting to be shipped. We know this from the warehouse workers leaks last year, before the Frame and Machine were announced.
AI retards are killing PC gaming
>>732347474They need to shelf the Steam Machine. It wasn't going to be a good deal when they first announced it and it definitely won't be one now.
>>732348706Only way prices will come down is when the bubble pops. When it does pop, the whole economy is going to be all sorts of fucked. Good luck selling this thing if they wait too long and that happens. They're doomed either way
>>732347474Im looking forward to it coming out so the PC fags can tell me what to buy instead (because im clueless)
>>732347474yep all my old pcs but my 750m laptop broke for not upgradingfuck the shit on the floor tyrant false god of the biblelucifer is superior to him in every way and formfuck you shit on the floor god you are worthless
>>732347474I don't care. Just give me the FUCKING CONTROLLER ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>732347474Our only hope is the AI bubble violently popping and taking out all the NAND/RAM gobblers while somehow not destroying the entire economy in the process. There were some wobbles what with rumors that NVIDIA is considering halting their huge Open"most efficient money furnace and NAND, RAM gobbler on the planet"AI investment, but the bubble remains intact for the time being. None knows for sure when the bubble will pop, there were some reports OpenAI would sell out to the Saudis to keep the money flowing to into their furnace until at least 2027.
>>732348753Probably trying to plan out the longevity of product pricing. Sure, they could price them competitively now but once current stock is sold out they'd be fucked.
>>732348753>I still don't get this, they have MILLIONS of units already manufactured and rotting away in warehouses, waiting to be shipped.I refuse to believe this is the case because it opens the way to only two possibilities.>the Steam cube will follow the hardware scalping price inflation, and won't be worth it at all>they won't follow the scalping price increases, which will instantly make it the most VFM computer in the market by far and they'll all be instantly slurped by scalpers and corporations for their gay AI clusters Neither one is attractive.
>>732348753It's pretty simple what'll happen if they set the price now>Set price to $650 or some shit based on what they costed to make before>Ok, time to get started on the next batch >Next batch: "hey ram prices have quadrupled, have fun :)">That $650 price tag now puts them in the negative per sale for new batches>This only gets worse with each new batch because RAM pricing is all kinds of fucked >Can't raise price without causing a shitstorm because nobody likes price increases>Therefore, all they can do is wait until things reach a point where they can slap a price tag they're confident will last
>>732349223>they won't follow the scalping price increases, which will instantly make it the most VFM computer in the market by far and they'll all be instantly slurped by scalpers and corporations for their gay AI clusters Every thread is someone posting this. You know how easy it is for Valve to only allow a Steam account with X amount of years on it to purchase the device? Companies purchasing it for their business is not an issue here. They're not going to be able to.
>>732349407You underestimate the sly practices of scalpers and dedicated businesses.
the RAM shortage is a good thing, it's being prioritised for important workloads (AI, progressing humanity) and not for manchild video games
>>732349223For your last point, I remember there being some discussion around measures put in place to prevent scalpers and AI dudebros buying them up in bulk.I think it had something to do with Steam accounts needing to have a certain amount of money spent on them, on top of purchase limits.
>>732349478Guaranteed replies
>>732349478>progressing humanitycan you define that? because humanity seems to be going through a cultural collapse right now.
>>732349601>only use Steam as my Dota and multiplayer slot machine since I pirate everything elsehope my 3k hours qualify me
I just want a native pcvr headset man
>>732347474I got a prebuilt 5080 just before everything went bad. Steam machine being cancelled makes me think I made the right decision
>>732349407You know that aged Steam accounts are cheap as fuck to buy in bulk, yes? AI slop corpos are openly torrenting books, they don't give a shit.
>>732349728>cultural collapsewdym the most oscar nominated movie got released recently for example
>>732348753The problem is that once those units are out, they can't make any more unless they increase the price.Also since the gabecube is a PC that you can just repurpose for anything you want, there's a risk of people buying them for other purposes than gaming if it's considerably cheaper than comparable PCs, which would be a disaster since the whole hardware lineup is designed to promote SteamOS and Linux gaming.
>>732347474This is the first Valve L in a while. Let's see if they can recover.
>>732347474PS5 won.
The price is going to kill these fuckng things DEAD. They're literally scared to announce the price
At this point I’m just waiting for a deck 2 in 2028
>>732350941Steam Machine's DOA. I still want a Steam Frame even if it's expensive.
>>732347763>The 9 pricesAmerican should using this trash of 9-prices and add 1 dollar to everything
I maintained Steam Machine, if priced over $700, exists to fleece Valve fanboys when I first read its specs. It's great to see more are coming to the same conclusion. Valve need to be taught the lesson on the correct pricing strategy of home console.
WHERE IS THE STEAM CONTROLLER 2WHERE IS THE STEAM CONTROLLER 2WHERE IS THE STEAM CONTROLLER 2FUCK GAMESAAAARRRR, FUCK VAGINAVADERAND FUCK 8SHIT DURRRRR
>>732353434thats delayed because the other hardware devices are!
>>732348706But by then these kinds of prices will be normalized. Today you can say "oh but you can buy this surplus workstation Dell for pennies" or something, but by summer we'll all be used to 1k+ prices on all electronics.
Just give me the controller damn it. Surely it'd be fine since it doesn't really care about RAM/StoragePlease, my Xbone controller is on its last legs and there's no point to buying another controller when this'll replace it in a few months...
>>732350387>The problem is that once those units are out, they can't make any more unless they increase the price.heres an idea:Sell through the already fully assembled Steam Machines at a price point higher than the original by some amount ($100-$200) to compensate for component price increases.Immediately start producing Steam Machines without storage and ram (a bring you own sorta deal) pricing it a good $150 or so lower than what the machine was going to release for before the component scalping by AI companies.Everyone wins!
>>732349407that defeats the whole purpose of the steam machine. If you have an old steam account you were already buying games on steam thus selling these doesn't grow the steam userbase, and you probably had the average computer that the specs were based off of. The ideal customer for this is someone who was avoiding PC gaming because it wasn't a good living room experience.
>>732353859The steam machine is supposed to be a console. Console buyers won’t want to source and install their own ram
>>732354232whats the deference between it and a meta quest? sounds like the exact same thing that cost more?
>>732354184This would let them release sooner, not let their hardware launch wither and die away in an already very competitive space, allows people who can't afford a price premium on the device, but do have leftover pc parts get one (while still profiting off the sale)People who really want a Steam console will probably be fine paying the bloated up front price, or buy the cheaper one and learn to install a ram stick by watching a 2 minute Youtube video. The already used to have to do that to add additional storage to their console.
>>732347617Valve knows the price is not going to drop at all this year, all RAM manufacturers and tech companies say the shortages are going to last until sometime in 2027, I think valve is trying to get the price just right so they could sell it at a loss until the RAM/storage goes back to normal next year but its still not going to be "cheap" its going to be like 1000 dollars still. its so fucking grim on getting new hardware
>>732353726the longer they wait the more outdated it is. it already has specs that only fanboys could love.
It didn't slip my notice that you changed the narrative from "early 2026" to "first half of 2026," Valve.>>732349407>only allow a Steam account with X amount of years on it to purchase the deviceWould be counterproductive to the (presumed) goal of onboarding new PC gamers.>>732350080I don't believe that your average corporate procurement officer is aware of such avenues.
>>732354392Big thing is the streaming tech, because it only streams the important stuff your looking at, and lowers bitrate elsewhere, it reduces latency.Also, you *could* run both Meta's rendering software tech alongside the Frames streaming hardware tech for a highly improve VR experience (much better framerates + reduced latency).Frames hardware streaming also requires minimal action for the developers to enable the functionality, wherein Meta's Rendering trick takes more effort to implement into a game directly.
oh no anyway...
>>732354601>posts schizo shit>didnt answer the question?
>>732354232dude they just signed trade deals with everyone in west which have migration unlimited* in small printshit will hit the fan, literally
>>732347474The simple fact is that the economy is in the pits thanks to the retarded president and the Jews in Silicon Valley with their AI ponzi scheme, the average person's confidence in the future is in free-fall and spending on luxury and entertainment items is way down. It doesn't matter when these drop because there will be no customers ready to spend $1k+ on gaming shit.
>>732354392Its only similar in resolution and lens quality, everything else is better on the frame and corrects zuck's retarded decisions. Quest 3 has horrible weight and ergos, horrible binocular overlap, shit audio, retarded drifting potentiometer sticks, and steam frame fixes the video compression problem of wireless with eyetracking as well as separating internet and streaming wireless with two radios.
>>732347474cool cool, so what is the excuse for the controller? It doesn't need a ram stick, just give us the price you fat fuck!
>>732354730>>732354894thanks anons, sounds like nothing we can actually compare until the frame is/if released?
>>732348753>I still don't get this, they have MILLIONS of units already manufactured No?>We know this from the warehouse workers leaks last year,Lmao you dumb bitch
>>732355130>so what is the excuse for the controllerSteam is a shit company and has been for years, its just been propped up by fanboys that are no different than nintodlers.
>>732355348Eyetracked foveated streaming is a steamVR feature, I think virtual desktop has is too but I'm not sure. It works on some eyetracking headsets that are out right now, so people with quest pros or play for dream have already tried out foveated streaming and it's a big difference. For 2160p it's supposed to be indistinguishable from wired display port. TLDR we know it's not just linus tech teps shilling it because its the current thing.
>>732347474poorfags buy steam decks cuz they can hook them up to screens and keyboards and it's a pre built that can run the vast majority of games including most modern onesthe steam machine was suppose to be for that specific audience, I ASSUME they wanted to price it under $700 as like a more powerful steam deck but no built in screen/controller but market fluctuations has made appealing to poorfags not very profitable>>732349192the AI bubble will not truly pop as long as the fear of the chinese catching up on the tech remains a primary concern for the united states. the gov. will bail out the ai companies to stay competitive with CCP nationalized R&D companies
>>732347474They didn't get contracts with ram makers 2-3 years before the announcement or something? Are they Absolute retards or something?
>>732348001>They tried steam machines before Back then streaming and remote play was not a mature technology and the WiFi/LAN bandwidths and protocols were not as good as today. Consoles we're also a distinctly separate hardware entity, today they are basically x86 PCs with a custom OS and digital libraries are the norm. The original steam machines failed because they were 3rd party manufactured shitboxes that varied in quality, and Valve has made large strides in the software side of things (like Proton). Simply saying the new one will fail because the old one did isn't some smoking gun. I think the new one will be like the Steam Deck, a quality product that its owners like, but not widespread and ubiquitous like a PlayStation or Switch.Frankly, I'm just here for the controller.
>>732356430throwing out the contract is cheaper than selling the ram for a third of market value
It'll be alright. Their most attractive hardware offering is already well put the door. The GabeCube is going to be a pretty niche product at launch, selling to the top 1% of video game FOMO people and the extremely rare demographic of people who have Decks (and now Steam libraries) without ever having a PC. Just like the Deck though I think the organic growth and word of mouth on the GabeCube will be really positive. For people who like video games more than the baseline "one game a year or less" demo, PC gaming is more attractive than ever, but you have to consider that people are not growing up using PCs or even laptops anymore. If you've graduated from high school in the last 5 to 8 years you probably never even touched a computer that wasn't a Chromebook. And it's not like people can't learn but I see people all the time on here who are confused by fucking Retroarch. If you're a prospective gaming PC buyer but you have no other plans for a PC outside of video games, I don't know, it's like buying a car for the stereo or something. I don't think the GabeCube is going to be a super deal or anything. And there will be plenty of clueless 35yo retards to buy a PS6 in a few years, for certain, but that audience is aging and not growing. as for the Steam Frame I haven't owned a VR device since the Meta Quest 2 which was incredible for two months and is now under a thick layer of soot and ball shavings. I think the Steam Frame looks awesome though. If Valve can build a halfway decent install base from the super niche hobbyists who are still really into VR, then that might breathe some life into VR dev, which as far as I know is exclusively serving middle schoolers who scream slurs in gorilla tag.
The entirety of the Steam Controller section is literally just>Steam Controller>Can I play non steam games with the Steam Controller?>The controller can work with any game compatible with the Steam Overlay.FUCKERSDon't tell me they're delaying it until either the gabecube or the gaben framen comes out
>>732347617Technically, if it fell off faster, you wouldn't have seen it in the first place. The Jaguar is at the "lightspeed limit" of visibility.Shit like the N-gauge, Bandi Pippin, Hyperscan or Nuon for example.
>>732360653pretty much they are, they want to keep it in stock when people the machine, which is funny because i dont think many people are going to buy it now. the controller will sell like hotcakes tho
