This game is objectively mediocre at best.Why does it feel so rewarding to grind?The combat system doesn't even make sense. The animations and sound effects are constantly disjointed from the actual applications of damage, and if you're unlucky enough to get aggro'd by 2 or more enemies, you're dead.Why does it feel so good to level up? And acquire new gear? And increase my stats?I should not enjoy this game as much as I do.
>>732353534thats the sign of a masterpiece. its the opposite from modern games where they put so much into the wrong aspects but still lack soul
>>732354067I think the worldbuilding had the largest impact, along with highly populated servers making the game feel alive. Normally I dislike pointless grinding, like in idle games, where even if you take your attack damage from 1 to 1,000,000, I still found them boring. I think the fantasy of becoming a powerful warrior and hopefully contributing to the war between Horde and Alliance was what drove me on a deeper level. Something about the context of the setting made me care about progression much more than other games.
>>732353534Simple: Because playing vanilla WoW actually took some minor brain power and skill.You're right, enemies CAN fuck you up. Leveling takes a while, requiring some dedication. Getting a group together without party finder requires an actual amount of social interaction.There are higher barriers to doing ANYTHING in game, which makes every action MEAN something.Getting to level 60 in vanilla was a genuine accomplishment. People assume the casual/hardcore line is between people who raid and people who don't, but in vanilla just getting to end game at all took a lot of dedication and time. The reward was real.
>>732353534Og wow is a masterclass in delayed dopamine, zoom zoom
>>732353534Delayed gratification. Zoomers don't know what this is.
>>732353534Leveling curve is actually perfect.
>>732353534It's because there's a constant barrage of things to look forward to. New skills to buy, new talents to unlock, new items to equip, new dungeons to run, new zones to quest in, etc. Having to work towards it helps too, so there's a sense of accomplishment. It's a dying gameplay loop.
>The animations and sound effects are constantly disjointed from the actual applications of damageit’s purposefully done to feel smoother, little stuff like your model procedurally staggering when taking hits is done to give wow a tight feel, obviously there’s no way the server could handle that so it’s interpolated
>>732353534because its based on real life believe it or not
>game releases and prompty kills all of its competition in astonishing fashion, its DNA solely shaping the genre for 21 straight years with no signs of stopping>"this game is objectively mediocre"absolute fucking retard
>>732353534AI post
>>732353534>Why does it feel so rewarding to grind?It doesn't. You're a mentally ill loser.
>>732353534>Why does it feel so rewarding to grind?It doesn't. You're brainfucked.
>>732358153Oh look, someone else said the exact same thing.No, really, you're brainfucked. The game is built to exploit people like you and you're too dumb to realize it. They hired psychologists and everything.
>>732355003>Because playing vanilla WoW actually took some minor brain power and skillLMAO>but in vanilla just getting to end game at all took a lot of dedication and time.Time sure, it was tedious garbage meant to pad out subs. It took 0 skill
>playing bot filled classic>giving money to activision>not playing turtlewow for freeISHYGDDT
>>732357073killing the journey in favor of raiding was such a retarded choice
>>732353534Because you are just a fucking subhuman
>>732360759both are losing choices
>>732360818It's not retarded when it's the #1 thing causing people to wash out before cap.
>>732353534>The animations and sound effects are constantly disjointed from the actual applications of damageit's the exact opposite. the feeling of wow combat is one of the reasons why people like it so much.
>>732361101that's from a raiding centric pov
>>732353534TBC is going to be boring raid logging within 2 weeks. Watch. The playerbase is going to lose interest because of the nerfed raiding. I think Arena weapons are going to only require 1700 ranking so if you fuck around youll be able to get those easy too so you won't really even have to raid.
>>732361715No it's not.
>>732361891you can only "wash out" before cap if you consider the goal to be raidingvanilla wasn't designed like that
>>732361992Wrong. The design was to keep people subscribed for as long as possible and address pain points in older MMOs.
there are tons of mediocre games that people likewait until you find out over 100,000 grown men play old school RuneScape every day of their lives.
When the classic reboot happened I tried WoW for the first time and found leveling to be really fun. The huge amount of activity was definitely a part of that. I heard that there's a similar thing with TBC happening this month? Is it worth it to resubscribe for that? If there's a lot of activity I might like to try leveling an alliance character.
>>732362439wait I saw you just post that in /atoga/
>>732362589Tbc is vanilla with better balance in an expansion setting with tons of content so yes its good and you'll probably like it if liked vanilla but it isn't that "classic plus" game everyone is dreaming about
>>732362845i have a set of curated responses i come up with every day so i can get actual engagement. i do actually come up with said statements myself of course.
>>732362439Hell, the original Everquest is still getting expansions.
>>732361992If people are quitting before cap that means they dont enjoy leveling, which normal people dont because its dogshit
>WoWYou are approaching your late 30s.
>>732367268What the fuck else is there to play thats an MMO? This genre is effectively dead. You have OSRS, WoW, and maybe GW2 if you hate RPG elements and want gear that doesn't do anything. FFXIV is a visual novel that lost most of its playerbase to the point FFXI is somehow doing ok again. What else is there? Maplestory Classic isn't even out and it looks like its still far off.
>>732353534Greatness is rough and not perfect. Perfection is boring and soulless.
>>732360759Fuck off to the trenches shitnna.
>>732353534the devs were actually put thought into what would make the game fun rather than what would bait whales into spending the most moneyhttps://youtu.be/Ud9h8UpcC4Ehttps://youtu.be/Falm0H7VEiQhttps://youtu.be/ioQWkWj5_ss
>>732367575its time to play the game of life.
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