What are your expectations for chapter 5?
Kris impregnation.
more autistic shipping wars
Kris will take Carol to the festival
>>732354794that it will be shit, and if it is, i can finally kill myself
>>732354927I love tomboy feminization so much...
>>732354794Asriel gives (You) a blowjob and Kris has to watch
>>732354794Shit that will keep feeding these >>732354927>>732355914>>732357675 autists and then another 1-2 year-long wait for next product
Why is she like this?
>>732357805>I RLY MY MISS THEYWhat did she mean by this?
Dress
>>732357805Kris is a shit friend.
>>732354794>What are your expectations for chapter 5?
>>732354794I just want a good Asgore fight.
>>732354794Why do you believe that you get to have a thread in /v/ everyday instead of going to /vg/? You do know that the frequency of your threads is what is breaking the no-general rule, right? Maybe only post a thread when there's something relevant about your game like in a month or so?
>>732354794I LOVE MINDBREAKING KRIS BEST FRIEND JUST TO FUCK UP WITH HIS MISSION.
>>732354794Another wave of Toriel porn
deer impregnation mini game
>>732354927Don't impregnate humans! Be responsible!
>>732354794I hope for answers, but what I expect is that the festival will be mostly Susie melodrama with hints at Suselle and other ships, Dark World will be focused on Ralsei and Susie’s relationship like 3 and 4 but with a Ralsei focus, possibly with him learning or revealing his fire magic and leaving the party temporarily (as it's implied the fire mage leaves in Dragon Blazers). Asgore will also be important but I don't know if he's a main boss or just a side character to the real main boss, his flowers.
>>732357534Who doesn't?>>732361285Nuh-uh!
>>732357534Even though the humans are canonically ambiguous I prefer when they are actually feminine. I guess that's why I don't vibe with FemKris as much.>>732361727You would have to pay child support, you know.
>>732362025It's okay I got Angel Money from Gaster himself.
I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV!!! FUCK YEAH I LOVE TV!!!
>>732362154This author legitimately drew the most molestable Kris of all time
just saw a video advocating for noelle knight and it is very stupid, worse is all the comments agreeing with it
>>732357735>another 1-2 year-long wait for next productMore like a 3 years wait, if not more
>>732363380Link it.
>>732363610https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-pOlvieT-0hope you have an hour to spare
>>732363073what do you mean?
Kriselle is the most heterosexual pairing that ever existed.No amount of coping from epstein wannabes with yuricuck fetish will change that.
>>732364027>protagbrained simp making claims about straightnessLmao. Noelle will be (Mine) one way or another and that faggot will die.
>>732363957Loli Krissy ToT
>>732364027>HeterosexualOh yeah, it really is the epitome of straightness.
>>732361081This fanbase fucking hates whoriel after "the incident" hope you're ok with hag deer or betting on toby bringing back muffet or chara if you can to jerk off to adult women
Imagine betraying your friends for this
>>732364027sorry chuddy but kris is a hecking ebny! the only definitive straight ships are dessriel and ralsusie
>>732363957Looks like prime /ss/ bait[The only lewd art of that Kris being lewded was deleted off rule 34 but it was with the muscle mommy Frisk so it wasn't a big loss[/spoiler]
>>732364556She's hot
>>732364629>Fucked up the spoilerFUCK my life
>>732364538>or betting on toby bringing back muffet or chara if you can to jerk off to adult womenIn a good universe Toby would bring them all back as sexy woman but he's gay so he won't.
Little gorls.
>>732365524Kris is clearly a boy
>>732364556>>732365052my wife the roaring knight
>>732364027Unironically true, which is why fags call it heteronormative in the weird route and FemKrisfags make Kris into a jeanne d'arc tier tomboy knight
>>732365717>t. Asriel
>>732365693so?
>>732364027I have seen more retards call kriselle yuri than krusie by a long shot. Femoids LOVE kriselle
>>732366213>relationship where guy rapes and tortures girl mentally but then comforts her afterwards>loved by women Why is this so common
doodle req?
>>732366461The male coomtard shutters before the femcel
>>732365524Lolis!
>>732354794I just want Asgore to finally get his hype cool moment, he really needs itand also a kino boss fight against him in the weird route, he already know something isn't right with Kris, he's going to figure out that someone is controlling his body.
>>732363682I wonder if this is made by the Noelle Knighter that posted in these threads. He said he was making a video, so...>>732366486KFC gardening to fit the Chapter 5 vibes
>>732366758This JOBS to the Sans pedo rapist fanfic.
>>732366486Alphys
>>732365693The good thing about Deltarune Twitter is that when they drew Kris as a little kid they make sure to make them as gender neutral as possibile. This is good because someone can interpret them as both a loli and a shota at the same time. A sholi if you will.
>>732366905Chapter 5 has less changes than 2, so not happening. BUT! Asgore and his flowers are in mantle so we are fighting him eventually in the Weird Route
>>732367097That's because children, especially in fiction, are naturally gender neutral
>Making the twisted sword requires you to abandon the weird route at the last moment>it also needs you to get the crystals>Meaning you need to do actions that are contradictory or does not make sense for any characters to do, going completely off the script>You're going to have to go to the festival with the bird to activate it isn't it.
>>732367112less changes than 2 doesn't mean it's nothing, 2 changed almost 50% of the chapterToby could also be lying his ass as he did it multiple times already
>>732364497Yeah you Epstein blud, it is, in fact, straight.Their whole relationship is literally a classical childhood sweethearts trope, and both Kris and Noelle written as bluntly masculine and feminine, and your blunt fan art that aggressively feminizes a masculine character, too, won't change anything.
>>732365717Just because Dess raped you, doesn't mean she's your wife, Kris.
>>732367280Yes, but 2 had no exclusive fights outside of solo NEO. So I don't expect much from 5
>>732365717Rudy...
>>732366213Even if Kris and Susie were girls that ship is more yaoi than any yuri ship. But boy Kris x Susie is the best
>>732367738wtf rudy fucks his own daughter?
>>732367193The crystals are weird time stuff so you can just skip the superbosses (and the mantle too)
>>732367193>VN anon was right BRAVO TONY
>>732367193We will make the twisted sword in the weird route and aborted Snowgrave will be a meme like aborted genocide is.
>>732368005What's her problem.
>>732368262Human fetish
>>732368187I don't think Noelle can unequip the ThornRing anymore
>>732368187>like aborted geno.doesn't it gives you a special neutral ending? it's not much but it's already something
>>732368262All anthro girls are crazy for BHC
>>732366213That’s because Krusie is to straight for faggots to twist it outside of the basic “kris is non-biney”. Even with Ralsus retards are able to cope about how ralsei is “hecking trans” to avoid admitting they like a straight ship
>>732368262Rebellious girl with bitch mom
something that's probably important, but I've never bothered to learnwhat is the default state if you skip chapters? didn't talk to anyone in the hometown? no recruits, but not becoming stronger? seems kinda contradictory
Why self insert with Kris when you have the Vessel? The Vessel is already made to be your canon self insert.
>>732368471Everyone you've recruited before stays except Starwalker Never even had a single dark candy either
>>732357369noelle, the truth is... it snew
>>732368471Kris just sleeps and doesn’t talk to anyone
>>732368005This Dess is sexo unironically.
>>732366170I would kiss humans
since Ralsei obviously knows about the soul and Kris secrets, I wonder what he's thinking when the soul does everything to be nice to him or picking the gayest choices possible.Like, would it be like an eldritch cosmic horror suddenly decided to be your best friend?
>there are people waifufagging for a character we’ve never even seenChrist not even Charafags were this autistic
>>732368615Because the vessel was shown to be a waste of timeFor 7 years none of it has been addressed That degenerate Toby fox hates the players having their own character
>>732367193I want to believe it, but I think the Twisted Sword really is weird route exclusive and possibly the only way to progress it. Wait for the "aren't you forgetting something important?" From the sword game if you don't get it like the ice key.
>>732368615I like the autistic grey child Vessel from pic related.
>>732368362Good thing she's being used up.>>732368386Yes but that's only after killing Undying. Before that everything happens as if genocide never happened.
>>732369092How could Kris get back the ring when Noelle now has it and she cannot remove it?
I've come to realize I don't like any Deltarune ships because I like the current relationship between these three idiots and don't want an outside force to fuck it all up.
>>732369092Which means all the Shadow Crystals need to be obtained. Good thing Spamton is an obbligatory boss in the Weird Route.
>>732369243Keep it real, keep it in the Gang
>>732354794More soulelle. Kriselle fags are cucks.
What the actually fuck did Toby mean by this
>>732354794More in-game softlocks.More Mike-like characters made to edge the demented theorists that the writers attracted.The story changing against the player's will, despite the fact that he said there would be only one ending.More legacy character from children's game Undertale get violated the way Sans and Toriel were.A Ralsei that is unrecognizable from the wise companion character he's supposed to be.The Roaring Knight being a character I never cared about(December).The list goes on and on.
>>732369092I treat MANTLE like separate instances, it's not like shadow crystals care about time and space anyway because of the whole cliff hole thing
>>732367193>Taking berdly out to date with the imagery of you being the autistic gamer that has personally tried every little combination to get a secret third route.Would be kino of the highest order.
>>732368832We saw Dess in ch3 though?
>>732368615Because you don't play as it so people don't see it as an OC but (you). Which is great because I prefer it as a sexdoll
>>732369409Link but blue
>>732369352it's his locked box he's annoyed that nobody's figured it out despite people having zero clue what the fuck he's talking about he'll probably say it didn't mean anything later down the line when it clearly did when it was relevant
>>732369227The only way to keep it is to abort the Weird Route at the second fight with Berdly, right?
>>732369352Probably for the people who think it's an external force (like chara in UT) and not the choice of the player only deciding it
I wanna hang out with everyone
>>732368471The game has set items and recruits that it gives you. The menu screen also says which Chapter you started the game and the Ruddin talks about how you're unfamiliar with Castle Town
>>732369530I think Toby Fox is a bad writer in many ways.I do not need these things in my games to enjoy them.I want the old Ralsei back. I want the prophecy ending(that the writers explicitly said would happen).I want to actually be able to pick up mandatory items for progression, the way a good game lets you.
I feel cripplingly depressed over how I’ll never be acknowledged like Toby
>>732369092Yeah, I think the Twisted Sword is part of Kris being used up and becoming the perfect vessel
>>732369587If I remember right, You basically need to defeat Berdly normally instead of casting Snowgrave, then you'll be able to remove the ring from Noelle and keep it in your inventory
>>732369227Kris can't remove it on his own, only if we allow it.Or a second ThornRing from the garden Dark World.
>>732369747Get back to work, Sword.
>>732369723>I want to whine moreThere ya go, thank me later
>>732354794I'm beginning to lose faith the game will deliver its thematic beats in a satisfying way. The one ending thing is a massive bet to make it work but at the same time I'll be disappointed if there actually is more than one ending. The Weird Route feels too much like an afterthought and so far I don't see the point in its existance
THE FERAL VIOLENT MONSTER IN CHAPTER 3 IS DESSTHE SMUG ANIME FAGGOT WANNABE IN CHAPTER 4 IS ASRIELTHERE ARETWO KNIGHTSASRIEL ALSO OPENED THE CHAPTER 2 DARK WORLD BECAUSE IT HAS THE SAME KIND OF DOOR AS IN CHAPTER 4.
>>732369860I don’t know who that is.I just desperately want people to acknowledge my existence
>>732369352Noelle has a rape kink
>>732369865I have no idea how Toby can wrap up the story in 3 chapters. Especially if there are multiple endings
>>732354794The takeaway I have from chapter 3 is to delete my expectations
I wonder if doing the weird route will end up impacting the regular save too like geno did in UTActivating it in chapter 4 could even be a point of no return if Toby really want to mess with people who did it between chapters as they got curious
>>732369861A good threat would be more than enough to make him change it back.I don't want to whine. He changed the game, not me.
>>732369905Noelle is trans believers in shambles
>>732369640Chara was our helper. Not an external force. I miss good partnerwives
>>732369979I genuinely would not be surprised if a "chapter 0" or some save files fuckery happen at one point
>>732354794Not much besides this game's ending becoming a big trans allegory and development finishing sometime around 2030.
>>732369979i thought there was only one ending?
>>732369813Or just not give it to Noelle in the first place
>>732369723CoL...
>>732369860>The game people shilled for years as being more trad, based and christian than Undertale ended up directly donating to tranniesIronic.
>>732369979He can if these chapters are considerably well focused. I'm assuming Chapter 5 is the last normal adventure chapter and the other 2 will be 100% just plot with almost no whimsy joking around.
>>732370006It's important for the one ending, I'm sure of it
Don’t open this
>>732370190Toby isn't really the most trustworthy personit could be "one big element never changes" but everything around it doesn'tor that the game simply doesn't end traditionally, like, there's no end credit or you are left free to roam.
>>732370190He lied
What the fuck are the eggs and crystal shards gonna do? No way Toby is gonna lock an ending behind that bulkshit right? That would be a nightmare for the average player
>>732370327niggerune
God I wish I could’ve made something like this
>>732369873Not quite
>>732369723>that the writers explicitly said would happenThey never said that though, they said there is one ending, that ending doesn't necessarily have to be the prophecy being fulfilled.
>>732370408>eggsunclear>crystals presumably they get forged together into the pure crystal, which is a component of the twisted sword
>>732370054Jaru BTFO
>>732370408crystals I could see itthe eggs I doubt, it probably will unlock a special event, but it won't be related to the ending itself, it's way too specific and only involves Kris from the main cast
>>732370408>crystal shardsThere may be an ending hidden behind those, not conclusive, but it's possible.>eggsDefinitely just extra flavor text, too esoteric and arbitrary to be something important.
>>732369979Most of Undertale's big plot developments only happen at the end with giant lore dumps so it's really going to depend on how focused Chapter 5 is. We need answers
unironically noelle is the knight
>>732370327Sheeeeiiit
>>732370427Then why bother with the prophecy at all.It's like going on the quest for mount doom. Only to give up and fly the eagles to mordor halfway through. It's deranged
>>732370659There are a billion stories where fate and destiny are defied, this is just another one of them. The only thing deranged here is you being so baffled at it.
This game gives me severe depression because it reminds me of what I was missing out on due to my dislike of other people.I wish I could’ve made more friends back in high school
>the big choice at the end of Chapter 5
>Steam page says there is only one ending>Toby said "there are things more important than reaching the ending">Susie would rather have a story without an endingWhat would YOU do? What can possibly be a satisfying answer to all of this that doesn't come off as predicable of pure hack writing?
>>732370327Change it back. That's why humans are rare in this series.
>>732370513>noelle is trans>kris is a femcel who wishes her brother raped her>kris killed both Dess and Asriel>Asriel is simaltiously ralsei, the knight, and lost in the code>dess is possessing kris to rape noelle>the entire plot is just undertale but worseI genuinely hope Jaru is right it’d be so funny
>>732370753Why not the prophecy being fulfilled no matter what?
>>732370408Eggs will be LORE, Crystals will be an extra boss and more LORE. None will change the ending.
>>732369529My Grey daughter is such a whore...
>>732370835I pick birdly
>>732370848Easy, the normal/good route has no ending, you are banished for the good of Deltarune world, so you don't actually get to see the ending. The One Ending is you breaking the game through the weird route to avoid getting banished and actually getting to see the end of it.
>>732370889Can girls really cum from being tickled?
>>732369465That was just a shadow/outline of her.We've yet to get a fixed design for her, and at this point, fan interpretation is filling the void.Pic related has as much chance of being her canon appearance as much as anything at this point.
The Eggs are there to stop Kris from dying in the Normal ending. If you collect both the Eggs and the Crystals you get the perfect ending where everyone lives.
>>732370908Because Toby just felt like it? It's like asking why would someone wear a navy shirt instead of a beige one, because they just felt like wearing a navy shirt instead.
>>732371028How do some eggs stop kris from dying
>>732370848Dragon Ball Z ending where the adventure continues off-screen
>>732370978
>>732370987That's setting up the ending to be something inherently bad (because the player should never be rewarded for doing the weird route) so it would've been better if the player never got to see it.
>>732371076Kris finally gets a hearty breakfast (he hasn't eaten for days and is slowly starving to death).
>>732371076He swallows them whole and grows muscles like Popeye
>>732370889Jaru is such an enigma. Believing in tranny Noelle but being against non-binary Kris but ALSO believing in FemKris of all options.
>>732371076The eggs are sort of a therapy session inside Kris' mind which is why the egg rooms are places that appear to be out of bounds of time and space in the dark worlds, and it's dealing with the man behind the tree which is representing a supressed memory, each new chapter we get more and more insight as we chip away the mental barriers.
>>732371076Tracing from Chrono Trigger
>>732371152The way I see it, the ending isn't necessarily bad, but the Player/Soul being there to witness it IS a bad thing, for some reason which will probably be explained in the story. Basically, to get a good ending, the player's connection to the Deltarune world has to be severed, for whatever reason, with the unfortunate implication that the player won't actually be able to see the ending itself. If the Player/Soul is not banished, something bad will happen, and this is what I think will happen in the Weird Route.
>>732371076They are all related to the man behind the tree which is connected to therapy. They are to symbolize Kris moving on from the past and become something better (I Hope)
>>732370753Then how about a story ruled by an unbreakable prophecy? I think that's cool. It makes all the events have meaning, as this grand tapestry of stories making up the Legend of Delta Rune.
>>732370190Toby "Today, final-boss "ASGORE" was finished. After "ASGORE" is defeated, "UNDERTALE" ends. And then..." Fox is lying.
Kris WILL be happy
>>732371362You can make it yourself if you really want to see it.
>>732370958We should correct her before she ends up in a bad place
>>732370848Toby has to right to say that about ending when he's been taking this long. I want to finish the game, and play a new one. Hopefully one that doesn't have its hack writer outright lie to his players.
The Weird Route will end with you destroying the World and torturing Kris over and over.
>>732371152>the player should never be rewarded for doing the weird routeIt should be a desperation play, it's something you do because you have to, not because you want toRalsei is uncomfortable when you memorize things or do weird because that implies the last route was a dead-end and you're becoming desperate
>>732370987This is hack writing and Paper Trail did it first
>>732371447I don't know how to make games at all. I don't have that many ideas.Nor should I have to, I'm a consumer, not a developer.
>>732371325That would make sense with the whole thing about banishing the Angel's Heaven. It's still weird from a certain standpoint because it needs to showcase the Player is at fault for doing something truly bad. The only thing really bad our presence causes is taking away Kris' autonomy. It'd be like playing as Chara after a flawed pacifist and give the player a sense you stole somebody else's life?
>>732371489there is nothing implying that ralsei is aware of any kind of looping he's probably uncomfortable because (you) knowing all the answers ahead of time is unsettling in general, he doesn't know what (you)'re doing and can't make any guesses without possibly angering (you)
>>732371456I'm afraid it's too late...
>>732371369He wasn't WRONG per say. It does end forcefully by Flowey.
>>732371681Silly grey thing
>>732371489Why would you do it? It's been already heavily implied whatever end result the Weird Route will reach, it's not a good one. Its purpose is self defeating by default. Why stop a tragedy so another even worse tragedy happens in its place. It's what I don't get about the purpose of the Weird Route in the first place.
>>732371826Evil grey thing.
>>732371648Just like him knowing all the answers ahead of time is unsettling?
>>732371852>the thing that makes Kris tick
>>732371941ralsei acted as a guide, and eventually fessed up about the nature of his knowing (he doesn't understand why he does)(you) knowing all the answers and immediately acting on them is unnerving because it seems like (you) have foresight in the situation, yet are moving along the rails of the prophecy regardless when ralsei, and now susie, are trying to find a way to subvert it
I wanna follow the prophecy.Having a clear sequence of events for the story is good, actually
>>732372096Ralsei is deathly afraid of things he doesn't know, he's expressed this multiple times
Making a story about defying fate but where you actually lose isn't a bad idea. Sometimes, you just can't push through everything with the power of friendship. That despite everything, the things you've done still mattered to you and your friends. I think there's a lot of merit to it and the tragedy being actually unavoidable could be cool.
>>732371204Literally the only people I’ve seen argue that kris is female are coomers, actual women wanting to self insert, and troons who think everything is yuri. (Then again it’s not like the male krisfags are better)
>>732371325>>732371638What if after you get "banished", Gaster gets bored and changes thing againhe was the one who put the players in the world, the actions of every other characters probably is meaningless to himif he WANT you in the world, you will be in it.Don't forget anon, you signed the contract.
>>732372470I simply cannot perceive this as not female
>>732370989if she's a nympho or has a tickle fetish, yeah.or both.
>>732372486BullshitHe should have done something about Ralsei and Susie then
During the ARG thing, did anyone typed it's okay not to smile?
>>732372584>picMore fuel for my headcanon that Kris only gets nourishment from what he eats offscreen
>>732369352That plus "That's where you're wrong." to something that implies Noelle wasn't herself anymore definitely makes it sound like she's into it herself and that there's no other entity involved
What's Gaster's contingency plan if "the player" gets fed up with how the game changed over the course of 4 years and quits?
>>732372637We don't even know the full truth of the story tbf, a big story could be happening on the side while Kris and everyone are doing their thingWhile fans are trying to find Dess, none of the main characters are trying to do this or even thinking about it. People think Kris is trying but we can't even be sure.
>>732372584Cute anorexic girl.
>>732371325You should read Paper Trail so you can realize how your idea would such since it's exactly it in an actual story. Speaking of this fancomic it weirdly predicted a lot of things like Kris being connected with the Knight.
>>732372771game start again but this time you play as the complete vessel, the reason Toby took so long is because there's a second game that plays and modify all the other chapters after completing chapter 7and doing the weird route permanently block you from playing it and it impact all your saves, Gaster has no interest for the weird route.
>>732372771NothingNo game is made for everyone
>>732372772I don't care about December. At all. That is not the adventure that was sold to me.
>>732372470Kris booba.
>>732372771He plays it himself (he sucks and doesn't get any recruits or shadow crystals)
>>732372470>Kris getting too big for her bras
>>732371681There's no choice. We need to bring out the entire FVCK squad for immediate corrective measures
>>732372771He tells "the player" to stop stealing mods
>>732372896>Gaster has no interest for the weird route.He's a scientist, of course he's interested in experimenting and pushing boundaries, that's his JOB
>>732354794I've been thinking that Chapter 5 may be at night right after Chapter 4, and the festival will be Chapter 6, and then the Shelter world is Chapter 7.
>>732372908Maybe not, but I am a fan of fantasy turn-based rpgs(which is what deltarune sold itself as) This fantasy turn-based rpg fan is pissed.
>>732372951>the reason he hypes on the player fighting the knight is because he just couldn't beat the boss on his run
>>732372470Where does Jaru fall? Secret coomer? Yuritard?
>>732372978I didn't steal shit.
>>732372771If nobody is playing then the prophecy can't progress so that's fine.
>>732372859To be fair it's not an ending that I would personally enjoy, it's just that I do think it's a logical ending based on information inside and outside the game.
>>732373032Would Kris really get so fed up about Sans that he runs to sleep at Asgore place with Susie? (only to see a fountain)and Asgore in the morning actually gets pissed at Toriel for ignoring her kid's feelings
>>732372943Human booba
>>732373036CoL, if you ate a bad meal at a restaurant are you going to keep camping outside of it and protest for months? Why are you like this?I have told you a million times, GO PLAY DRAGON QUEST and fuck off.
>>732373036Turn based fantasy rpgs should be for turn based fantasy rpg fans at the very minimum. Not the theorists, not the moralfags who tried and failed to bully me about the first game when I was a kid, and not the subversive hacks who made careers off destroying my favorite things.
>>732373073None of this shit makes any sense. The most rational explanation is he's a contrarian saying whatever bullshit will cause the most reactions
>>732373156Fair enough. Honestly I think we might get a Mother 3 ending where it always ends with the final fountain being sealed.
>>732372470>men self insert as kris>women self insert as kris>the most notable "kris is hecking non-binary" fag was a non-binary groomerfucking hell literally no one treats kris as their own character and thats a good thing
>>732372470>>732372943we can go further
Kris is a boyChara is a girlFrisk can be either a boy or girl
>>732373296Frisk only says this because all women self-inserted as her in 2016 so she wants revenge
>>732373073Pathetic mentally ill faggot just like anyone else that takes "non-binary" or trans shit seriously, whether they believe Kris or Noelle respectively to be that or not. And like those that think he's a girl. God I wish I could just take a peek into the timeline where this whole gender bullshit didn't exist and didn't fuck up what Deltarune could've been.
>>732373365
>>732373073contrarianthe post 3&4 crop of femkris fags dug through the game to find evidence after some revelations regarding the prophecy, and their arguments are fairly solid outside of the 'toby never will gender the humans' thingjaru is doing it completely based on vibes and contrarianism like with everything else he says
>>732373191I don't like restaurants. I go only when I have to, much cheaper to make my own dinners.As for the other thing...I am. It's the game I'm playing while I'm also doing the mod.
Frisk? On modelChara? TitcowKris? Faceless hentai man
I saw Frisk as a neutral protagonist, but I struggle to see Kris as anything other than a guy because I looked like the character when I was a teenager
>>732372969I wonder what an acronym for the whole gang plus Clover would be like.
>>732369723Undertale was your normal video game experience. Deltarune is the fever dream game where Toby decides to do wacky bullshit and get extra meta based on the shit Undertale vaguely established.
>>732370835Noelle is the only option if Ralsei suffers twink death.
>>732373432ZAMN?! Noelle gets to rape that?!
>>732373278I'm going with cycles, myself Expanding on Chara's SOUL shenanigans and fast-tracking things in an attempt to reach the one ending (escape)
>>732373597It was supposed to be the opposite. Deltarune was supposed to be the big one(the good one)
>>732373597if that's the case then deltarune will do a save file twist that will completely change the game
>>732373296Gotta say that Krusie is one of those occasions where I never even thought about it from a self-insert perspective. It probably helps that Kris and Susie's relationship is often depicted as a really close friendship that is just really heartwarming to watch.
>>732373649'fraid so
I wish DT had the randomized Fun value events like in UT, I wonder why Toby didn't keep this function. I doubt it was that complicated to make
All humans are girls, even the fallen ones from Undertale.
>>732372470https://files.catbox.moe/9f8j94.png
>>732373753Lucky.
>>732373786Something something "prophecy/fate prevents randomness" or some shit like that.
>>732374003It should have. Before they changed it.
>>732373608>if Ralsei suffers twink deathWe're talking about a goat that is used to eating nothing but fried air and runs around like crazy to stay ahead of the Gang. Unless he becomes a Lightner and gets addicted to real food, we're golden.
kris can't be a girl cause that would mean both ralsei and berdly are straight and toby would lose his fag bucks
>>732373786That role is filled by the save slots
>>732374063but that would also mean that noelle is a real lesbian instead of being bi which would get him more progressive points
>>732374063I've never seen gay kerdly
>>732373546>while I'm also doing the mod.that you tried to pass off as solely yours until you got caught kekyPOW
>>732374309Huh? Wait what happened.
>>732374063He lives in Japan now he doesn't even really need them anymore.
>>732373551Frisk and Chara should look like twins. Be it lolis or titcows
https://x.com/Befuddledge/status/2019396419308908642
>>732373652>Chara's soul shenanigansWhat are you talking about? Soulless pacifist?
>>732374583Yes
>>732370848>What can possibly be a satisfying answer to all of this that doesn't come off as predicable of pure hack writing?A synthesis of Toby's old Halloween Hack themes with a broader metacommentary on the nature and limitations of interactive media (in their current state), plus a slight subversion of UT's hamfisted take on gayming morality.The thing about story-driven games as they are now is that their stories eventually end, full stop. They're completely reliant on what the author writes into them and nothing else can take place. One the game ends and you get the full picture, the fictional world is stuck in limbo, and unless the author makes further additions or at least canon remarks outside the work, the only thing that can push the setting forward is your own imagination as a fan - hence Toby's remark in the anniversary stream.With the way Toby likes being confrontational with his audience, if this is indeed going to be the main take of Deltarune, he's going to pull it off in the most aggravating way possible by outright putting it in-universe. The final prophecy panel? It probably said exaclty that - that their entire world is going to come to an end once the conflict is resolved, no matter which way. Susie's remark that the three of them will do everything to prevent that from happening? She meant that they'll try their best to put a great show to convince the viewers to keep imagining and making fanworks, for that is how their world will continue living. Once you reach the endgame and resolve whichever conflict the prophecy's been building up to, you'll still have to experience the world end, and that's where Susie will state this outright.What I'd absolutely want to avoid is the repetition of UT's true pacifist and what >>732371325 suggests. Going full "dude trust me, everyone's living happily thereafter, don't ask questions how this would happen" again will just retread UT and dilute this new message of the fans' role in perpetuating fiction.
>>732374309You say that like I should be doxxing other people to strangers. This may shock you, but I don't like talking about people I know behind their backs.
>>732373786Because Deltarune isn't made for a lot of replays unlike Undertale. There's not even a reset button in Deltarune.
>>732374258I feel like I ONLY see gay Kerdly.
>>732373597>Undertale was your normal video game experienceA game that's won by completly ignoring one of its two enemy interactions, that reacts to you reloading a save?
>>732374505Is there a single thing Toby can do to live up to the hype and expectations of fans for the first real appearance of Dr. Mc-Doesn't Exist?
>>732374654Yes there is it's called Delete file.
>>732374609I don't think selling Frisk's soul to Chara will affect Deltarune in anyway, unless I am misunderstanding your point.
>>732374771You still have to beat the shit out of ass gore and flowey
>>732374868You as the SOUL will gain new hosts which works retroactively like Chara
>>732374409https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/554313218/#554325796
>>732374984
>>732374613>She meant that they'll try their best to put a great show to convince the viewers to keep imagining and making fanworks, for that is how their world will continue living. Sounds more like existential horror if you ask me. Also, this is way too meta and on the nose even for someone like Toby. This is basically one step away from "buy our merch, or all your favorite characters will DIE". I'd rather the Normal Route end in the characters being relatively ignorant of their fictional nature and the Weird Route being the one where they learn the awful truth.
>>732374909How about beating Genocide? You have to never click Mercy.
>>732374991What about the modded part about Kris being a boy? Did those people make that part too?
>>732374412>implying Japanese fan aren't also massive faggotshe'd still be crucified by a gotefag
>>732375247Act is the second enemy interaction
>>732375420But you can't use the Acts for Mercy in Genocide.
shit we horny posting now?
>>732375615You can use them for healing
>>732374258All kerdly is gay kerdly
>>732375827But then the Mercy button is useless, even outright detrimental.
>>732375992You can use it to run away from annoying enemies
>>732374613(cont)Snowgrave ends exactly the same as in normal route, except it's (You) that ends the world by destroying it instead of letting it come undone as the script intended. Hence "one ending", though one that hits completely differently.One way to read this is that you're essentially saying "your game is shit" and punishing it and (almost?) all characters inside it in the most brutal way possible. You're all but outright told in advance what exactly you're about to do in CH3 game.An alternative take would be that you're "mercy killing" the world that was stuck in a loop due to its finite span of canon story. Someone put forth an idea a month or so ago that "awakened" Noelle might fully onboard with your genocide plan for whatever reason. Maybe she's fed up with the resets and repeated suffering she's been going through, or maybe she's just a psycho like that, fuck if I know. But I fully expect her to be a thematic opposite of Susie one way or another (Pink vs Gold, perhaps Repetition vs Finality?).>>732375113>I'd rather the Normal Route end in the characters being relatively ignorant of their fictional natureMy read from what's already been revealed is that all three of the main protags already know this.
what little moments you think will happen in ch5?not giant twists or reveals, just little moments like tea party, or kris playing piano alone>in normal route, sussie and noele go together somewhere during festival, kris and you are left alone, and he just lets out of his body, to silently hang out, because he is lonely
>>732376264I expect it to be where Susie can act as a wildcard to add options while Noelle can remove "problems" permanently
>>732374613I actually really like this. It's good and something that Toby would do. Good theory.
OFFICIAL DEFINITIVE ROARING KNIGHT'S IDENTITY LISTALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUS KNIGHT TIER>PapyrusUNIRONICALLY MORE INSANE THAN PAPYRUS TIER>Noelle in any wayGOD TIER TRICKERY, TONY FOX>Rudy>AsrielCOOL TIER>Carol>Kris's real SOUL / Vessel with Kris's real SOUL>Dess>Asriel/Dess with Kris's real SOUL>Vessel with Asriel's or Dess's SOULOK I GUESS>Vessel by itself>IMAGE_FRIEND / ERAMABSOLUTE DOGSHIT, IM SHITTING IN YOUR ONSEN TOBY TIER>"""dess's corpse/dust/sou/possessedl""" alone and anything similar>"""asriel's corpse/dust/soul/possessed"" alone and anything similar>character we haven't seen before>multi knight / amalgaknight>gaster's stand/titanspawnINCREDIBLY STUPID IN REALITY BUT WOULD STILL MAKE ME JAWDROP REALTIME>Asgore
>>732375631Might as well post booba
>>732376489Pizzapants' girlfriend is real and she shows up
>>732376489I kinda want to see Ralsei playing with flowers desu
>>732376735>>Noelle in any waythe fanbase isnt ready to admit that undyne being snowgraved has a very simple explanation
>>732376489Kris just starts shoving the SOUL in a costume to see what happens
>>732375403They are on the same level as humanfags so they would fight each other to the death while Toby is safe
>>732375631yeehttps://imgur.com/a/XFZltKF
>>732376970There is no way to explain Noelle being the knight without ultra hack writing like mind control shit.
>>732376735But I dont care about dess
>>732376264The fact that the final piece of the Prophecy says "Only then will the worlds be saved" kind of dashes the whole thing about them ending no matter what, and the one pane that Susie broke is hardly big enough to fit all of the stuff about fiction and fanworks.
>>732374984That could be cool but I honestly that will happen in general.
>>732376489>Kris stubs their toe>when you get back HP is set to 1
>>732374063berdly displays no interest in ralsei, meanwhile ralsei regularly gets flustered by clover, susie, and even queen's boob comments (ralsei wanting to fuck (YOU) doesn't count). once again FemKris retards win again.
>>732373886Booba.https://files.catbox.moe/tat6sa.jpeg
>>732377137*don't think that will happen in general
>this is what krisfags want
>>732375631When is /v/ NOT hornyposting
>>732377456I mostly just believe in Noelle and Vessel
>>732377123what if the world that's saved isn't the one of Deltarune but another?
Noelle is like Jesus and Kris is just like Mary Magdalene.
>>732377775Vessel was a waste of time
>>732377775I think we will just play as the Vessel because Toby is autistic about how we can only use humans to interact with his world
>>732377960if the thrash machine could show up two chapters after it's creation while serving as a direct parallel to the vessel, then the vessel will for sure be coming back into play at some point down the line
why is everyone looking for dess if she's the knight are they stupid?
>>732378127It's too late to matter, straight up.
When you first played Deltarune survey program in 2018, did you ever expected to still be waiting and talking about the game 8 years later? More time has passed between chapter 1 and now than between Toby thinking of any games and the release of chapter 1
>>732364538Toriel gets new fanart every day, seethe.
>>732370848A bold new frontier for video games: Endless AI-Generated Deltarune chapters, the game goes on forever until the heat death of the universe
>>732377960The Vessel is a Goner, having it serve as an infinite Tension battery or plain not having health because it isn't alive would be perfect for a victory lap ending
>>732378395I'm not really here to discuss the game, I'm here for the edgekino Kriselle art and sexy humans
>>732378395No. I thought the full game would be out by now because Toby said so. He lied and millions died.
>>732378446Like I said, too late to take back the literal years waiting, and the 20 in-game hours of torture.
>>732378081Well we are technically interacting through a human SOUL and it's not like they haven't controlled monsters before
>>732377123>The fact that the final piece of the Prophecy says "Only then will the worlds be saved" kind of dashes the whole thing about them ending no matter whatWhere's the problem? (You) are continuing the world, or rather your own version of it, by creating or at least imagining its continuation.>and the one pane that Susie broke is hardly big enough to fit all of the stuff about fiction and fanworksIt's true that either she or someone else would have to learn that elsewhere (pre-CH1 start? somewhere later if loop theory is correct? knowledge Ralsei already had when he started existing?). But the basic message of "the world will end unless The Player creates its continuation" can be short and simple.
>>732378793What if I'm not interested in continuing the fiction world forever though
>>732378916Someone else will
>>732378951Then do t make every player have to go through with it. Let them end the game and move on with their lives. I cannot emathizenwith a fiction character that doesn't want to carry out their role
>>732378916Then you just reject Susie's plea and move on. Or if you were doing Snowgrave then that's what you were about to do anyway. Your personal Survey is done and the world is stuck in limbo unless you change your mind in the future.
>>732354794Toby is an oldschool otaku coomer. I think Suselle is a complete fabrication and red herring to drive the plot>Normal routeSusie forces Kris onto Ferris wheel and start Krusie subplot while Noelle gets super jealous and turn into final boss of Deltarune>SnowgraveSame happens, except this time Noelle is jealous over Susie "taking Kris away" and both routes are connected with slightly different ending where it probably ends with Kriselle instead
>>732370376This takes me backIs that one guy still working on a playable version of this?
>>732378451>sexy humansDiscussing the game and what the humans do in it is their appeal, though. Even if they are sexy
>>732372584i want to make meatloaf for her
>>732377087>>732377087>There is no way to explain Noelle being the knightThe setup is there. Noelle snowgraving berdly and being like "huh? what happened?? i dont remember shit im outta here" might not be a weird route exclusive thing.It would also explain the MANTLE section with the black monster/deer perfectly.
>>732373551for me?frisk: shotachara: titcowkris: on model
>>732378651That's true but human SOULS usually transform the monster into a super powerful beast, so I doubt they would be a regular playable character.
>>732371325>the player is banished>the alternate ending only exists as a watchable video online cucking the player out of interactingThere is a secret redirect that allows you to hijack the ending after all, turning it into a terrible ending
>>732378916The rest of the fandom will for you.
>>732379106I wish the game let me ignore Susie's anti prophecy garbage.
why do so many yurifags latch onto non-weird route kriselle?
So am I just misremembering or are the "secret" bosses for chapters 3 and 4 WAY easier?T. played 3 and 4 two days ago, played 1 & 2 3 years ago
>>732379368>shotaLAAAAME. Asriel already fulfils that role. We need a loli
>>732379567do they? i'm under the impression that the big yuri ship is Susie and Noelle
>>732379567I assume it's because Suselle is too boring for them.
>>732379567Because they already like Weird Route Kriselle.
>>732376489>take kris to toriels classroom after susie leaves for noelle if you refuse to see what susies doing >prompts to talk at the white board appear when you interact with it>kris will directly respond by writing and erasing answers
>>732379408What thematic purpose does this even serve except stroking anti-egos of self-loathing leftists?
>>732379594Knight is wayyy harder than both Jevil and Spamton. You are right Gerson is much easier.
>>732379656
>>732369787The Twisted Sword gives Trance down though, not upIf anything they'd become less in control, when Noelle gets the ThornRing her Trance goes up and we can control her better.oh fuck noelle can equip swords too
>>732379732>Knight is wayyy harder than both Jevil and SpamtondamnI beat the knight within 4 tries (I was honestly expecting the fight to go on for 5-10 more minutes)I think it took me 10+ tries to beat Spamton NEO originally
>>732378793Even if there was a way to organically fit all that info onto a single pane, I feel it would produce a different reaction from the characters than it did. They'd be more weirded out, at least initially.And I guess the whole thing kinda rubs me the wrong way too. On one hand, the story that goes on forever is Gerson's ideal. But on the other, this also reeks of the inability to let go. It seems like a good arrangement on the surface, but there's something very creepy about reducing all the characters that I've come to love as a part of their own world to a bunch of cosmic ants kept as pets by someone who can as much as rewrite their entire personality on a whim. As much as I talk about death of the author occasionally, I still think there is a certain line - a very thin one, but it's there. To me, the implication of officially entrusting the UTDR universe to the fans means turning it into this uncertain multiverse of loose ends most of which are never resolved. It's like a combo of "we couldn't think of an ending, make a better one" and "now you don't have to ever say goodbye to your little scrunklies or let go of anything!" I'd rather make my stupid stories knowing it's just my own interpretation and not a lifeline that these characters depend on because the canon is doomed on purpose.
Is picrel what will happen to Asgore in Chapter 5?
>>732379594jevil is probably the most difficult enemy in 1 & 2, spamton is much easier in comparison the knight is the hardest boss in the game, but is much easier with the mantle (still tough though)eram feels like a classic zelda boss, some people find the fight hard but i wasn't too tough imo gerson is the easiest because he starts doing less damage the lower health susie has
>>732379789noelle can equip a single sword (jingle blade) and the dark shard, which is more of a dagger than an actual sword it's also worth mentioning that the jingle blade is her own pencil that kris is 'borrowing'
>>732376489Suselle has literally 0 narrative drive and 0 development. It would be completely pointless other than give feew yuritards some fuel to jack off.Noelle getting twisted and trying to turn Susie into her Dess tulpa and breaking like glass when Susie actually turn out to crush on Kris would be the only reason that make sense on why Tobert wrote it in. Same with Susie developing healing powers and obsessing over apples. It would be retarded for her to use it on Noelle since she isn't in the dark world and healing doesn't work in Light world. Also betrayal of Kris of Susie after it turns out he work with Dess would only make an impact if Susie was emotionally invested in Kris and not some side chick she interacted like twice.
>>732379789We don't know what trance down actually does but I don't think it's a good thing for Kris.
>>732379830How weird. Maybe you just gotta better those last 3 years. The Knight is objectively harder than Spamton.
>>732380071Can't tell if bait or ironic shitposting
>>732379868Yes lol
>>732380178What's fucking wrong with you?
>>732377490Yes, I want Kris to get laid. I want to play wingman if only he'd let me
>>732380149>Maybe you just gotta better those last 3 yearsIs the weird thing, I haven't played any bullet hell or game like it in the meantimeI've been playing cozy games like Stardew Valley and Little Witch in the WoodsI think my mindset played into it, I saw that the Knight had 80%+ health left and thought I had to get it to 0%
Yuri pandering and more gay shit.
>>732380565Toby will make chapter 5 the most krusiepilled chapter in the game. Discussions, shitposts and fanarts that will make susellefags kill themselves will become legendary.
>>732354794>>732369979Chapter 5 will be the last of the "normal" dark worlds with Asgore's flower shop (or possibly more) before the Knight or somebody else initiates the Roaring and fucks the world up.Chapter 6 will probably be where the big reveals regarding Carol, Asgore and Kris in the bomb shelter happen as well as the meta realizations of what the world of Deltarune really is (Carol likely knows it's all fictional and is trying to prevent the ending, i.e. World's End) and the truth of what happened with Dess ending with you somehow fucking up/leaving said world.Chapter 7 is where you'll no longer even be Kris and are seeing all the maddening alternative fictional worlds and amalgamations (including finding out Undertale was a childhood escapist world based on a fucking kitchen, like with Mancountry being a gameboy, and Deltarune being teenage escapism from a traumatic event Dess's accident is based on) as you make your way back to Kris at World's End and put an end to the worlds yourself so that you and Kris can finally be freed back into the REAL world, before giving one big goodbye to Suse/Ralsei/etc. who'll come to a hard acceptance (i.e. "Don't Forget").I still think he's gonna appear given the buildup, but Asriel has a 50/50 chance of either showing up or not at all in a conventional sense in this story simply because it may tie into this game's very theme of holding onto pastiche memories as the world around you ages, like an ongoing theme with him being dead in Undertale. If he does show up in 5 though, no doubt he'll play heavily into the Dess revelation and Ralsei representing a final gift to Dess (this might be what snaps her out of her Knight rage). If not then Ralsei is the one "piece" of him you have left.Snowgrave is simply forcing the world to be perpetual yourself via Noelle's ice magic, hence why it isn't considered a true "ending" because it NEVER ends.
My theory is that the Knight isn't actually making the fountains in the Light World and they can't sustain themselves without help.I think Carol, Kris, Alvin and some others are "in the know" about something to do with the dark and are making fountains to keep the knight alive/move it aroundGerson only "appears" in the fountain in the church that isn't created by Susie and Ralsei says it's only because of a close bond between the character and fountain's creator. Alvin also tells Kris to stay away from the bunker, the same bunker that has the symbol on his cloak.Thoughts?
>>732380178You haven't been here for long if you can't notice it’s completely sincere.
>>732379789>>732380078The thing is, Kris is also canonically looking for the crystals, and you know you need them to make the sword, Kris might be interested to see what the sword can do, even if it's bad
>>732380376>>732380840It's that easy
>>732380914It's very likely the Crystals will make something other than the Sword. I doubt the pure crystal is a crafting item.
>>732354794I have no expectations. I'm simply terrified of Toby not only dropping the ball, but that I'd be in too deep to give it up. I've resigned myself to the worst dyke romance in history sandbagging an otherwise endearing cast and compelling mystery but I'm going to be very sore if shit turns out retarded. I do expect Ch5 to come as soon as April though.>>732376489I want to see what new interactions are available in (Me)Town from the ch4 guys, and how Ralsei's room changes. >>732380776Alvin for me puts the cook count at one too many, at least for active involvement in the conspiracy. I think it's somewhat implied Dess (and Asriel) knew Gerson personally before he died, since he was the teacher before Alphys? And I swear there's a bit of dialogue implying she's relatively new in town, so the timeline could line up. We also see, that at least temporarily, The Knight is able to overpower Undyne in the Light World and haul her all the way to the bunker before Kris and Susie can catch up.
>>732381291>I do expect Ch5 to come as soon as April though.Toby already said it's only coming out in the second half of this year.
>>732381291Think about it though, in Chapter 1 we hear Alvin talk about whether "it is right for this hammer to...", as he leaves the graveyard. Then it turns up in his office, which is not normal given Susie's reaction to it being there.>Darkners patterned after the memory of a loved one...>Tend to only appear in very specific darknesses.to me implies a deeper bond than just a teacher, it sounds like a close friend or family member. That line just feels too specific to be a throwaway thing.
>>732381581It's also possible that Alvin opened the Dark Worlds and the Knight was in there to stop us.
>>732381746Only the church ones, I think.
>>732381889Yeah i meant those two.
>Alvinfags STILL trying to make him relevant Alvin will have a small scene in Chapter 5 of him reading Susie’s letter and thanking whoever wrote it. That's it. He has no text box, no unique voice blip, doesn't show up in Mantle and Gaster doesn't care about him.
>>732381581given that we know that gerson and alvin's relationship was strained, i'm not too sure about darkner gerson being the imagination of his child given his emphasis on being a teacher, writer, and being elderly, i think he came from the mind of someone who primarily knew gerson as those things, but also had immense respect for him given how strong he proves himself to bepersonally i think all of this points toward whoever made the church fountain as one of his students, and given that gerson seems to single out susie (and kris somewhat on the weird route) as someone who needs his guidance despite their initial resistance, he seems to have a knack for troubled kids while we still know fuck all about dess, i don't think it's a complete stretch to think of her as a somewhat troubled kid in her day from what little we do know of her, going from environmental clues in her room and how nobody in town outside of family ever talks about her while still being fond of asriel, despite us knowing that the two of them were pretty close
>>732382131I agree that he's not really important, but i want to feed most theories anyway.
>>732381291Gerson died recently, yeah. Even fuku fire had him as her teacher.
>>732354794Oh I tell you.>flowers are barely a focus at chapter 5>Asgore gets dragged through the mud as a character>shadow crystal route is yet another deconstruction of Jevil/Spamton>more teenage melodrama>barely any new darkner characters>more subtle jabs at people complaining about the game, potentially not as subtle as before>more mystery boxes>barely progressing on the current mysteries
trust the plan
>>732373551based
>>732383428the blue flower fan designs make me erect
>>732380705I like your ideas Anon. The ending certainly sounds like something from a fever dream. Can you expand on the Undertale kitchen concept? I understand how the regions fit with appliances, but I'm curious if you have more to that
>>732383479At the very least it will be a male. This is Toby we're talking about.
>>732373551Frisk? Titcow.Chara? Titcow.Kris? Titcow but the thickness is impossibly hidden.
>>732370848I've had a clear idea exactly what I want to happen all the back in chapter 1 and nothing since then has changed my mind. I want the game to either have a massive world changing event that permanently merges the light and dark worlds, OR and massive world changing event that shows the characters escaping into our actual real world.All other endings outside these two I will consider hack slop garbage.
What is the most schizo theory you believe in? No need to elaborate.
>>732383758i believe jaru is right about a small amount of thingsasriel is in the code, dess is the sovl and we're influencing her chara-style, weird route is dess shipping
>>732383758CMYK
>>732383410We need Frisk titty...
>>732383758In orderRudy Knight > Asriel Knight > Noelle Knight > Asgore Knight > Dess Knight
>>732383758the entity that discarded the vessel is neither g man or kris, but a third entitynot sure what it would mean yet though
>>732371472>Toby has to right to say thatHis writing has this recurrent weak spot in how it only works if you had a specific reaction to the story.As in, the themes of the genocide route make no sense if you went for it first.
>>732383532No, it will be they/them because it will be based around the blue human soul.
>>732383576i personally think kris works better as a flattie but booba kris is appealing
Will somebody even apologise to me when suselle turn out to be nothing and festivals just go on with krusie?
>>732376970TRVTH NVKEholidaygirl1225 (had this before dess disappeared) means all 1225slop is claimed by her
>>732378793>the world will end unless The Player creates its continuationI understand why the story could end this way but for some reason this just feels so fucking stupid to me. I can't really explain why but the author telling me through the characters that "the world won't end so long as you keep the character alive in your imagination!" just feels really underwhelming and silly to me, it feels like a prank more than anything. I guess I'm not the kind of person this message is meant for.
>>732383758Kris is remote controlling the Knight, i can't think for other explanation for the black deer
>>732384019Only Epsteinfags sexualise Kris and make him a girl
>>732379234I think it last got updated in like 2021. I wouldn't hold out much hope...
>>732384105kris being a girl is not any more sexual than kris being a boy unless you're trying to claim that people do not imagine themselves fucking the characters vicariously though mkris
>>732384095Kris's controller still controls SwordThe (You) is controlling Dess vs Kris as Kris
>>732384095Jokes aside this is the biggest piece of evidence for noelle knight if her altar ego is the black deer>you control her indirectly for a puzzle which leads to:>you control her directly>kris puts her down
>>732383758Vessel is a copy of Frisk because Gaster specifically noted what we did using her in Undertale and thought that body would be the best one to use our fate changing powers.
post things theorist stay away from with a 10ft. pole
>>732384105Epstein was a furry.
I love kriselle so much its completely eclipsed anything else in the game. I don't even care about deltarune anymore I'm looking forward to the game made by a huge kriselle fan 18 years from now.
>>732384105If you arent a mentally ill shipper then girl kris is fineIf you are though, you are epsteincore
>>732384295the cactus was behind it all?!?1
HFOFA.
>>732384095This is because Knight has Kris’s soul.
>>732384295>the only way to stop the weird route is to kill yourself on a cactusthere i solved it
>>732383410asriel got to fuck THIS?
>>732376489
>>732384334
/POL/TARDS LOST, REDDIT LOST, Y/U/RIFAGS LOST, FNAF LOST, AMERICA LOST, SUSELLE LOST, KRUSIE WON, KRISELLE WON, RALSUSIE WON, YAOIGODS WON. LETS FUCKING GO
>>732384295Nowadays anything involving Sans and Papyrus because of contrarianism. I guess the evidence of Forgotten Man being Papyrus.
>>732379567yurifags are cancerkriselle is kino however
>>732384105>EpsteinfagsPlease take this diddy blud lingo back to TikTok.
>>732384295I'd post everything Seam ever said but that would be too long
>>732376489>black screen>sans voice>it's the beautiful day outside speech, but the last part is changed with him saying the festival is today and kris should go outside>black screen goes away, sans is just laying on asriel's bed>comments on kris's expression but misreads it entirely (we dont know if its on purpose or not)>sans goes to leave the room>pauses>looks at kris's birdcage with the SOVL in it>"cool bird.">leaves>you enter the hallway, you hear a muffled baseline playing but the song is unclear>go downstairs>you hear sans theme instead of the home theme>toriel once again made breakfast, flirting and laughing with sans the entire time in a much more controlled manner>kris won't sit down and eat, gives minimal flavor text for the usual stuff>right before you're about to leave, sans says he'll come with you to his carnival stand>some gags on the way there, he says he knows a shortcut but just gets lost in a completely different area (again, we dont know if its on purpose or not)>he finally fucks off at his store/house/carnival stand thats conveniently at the start of the festival area
>>732384469This artist is based.
>>732384626>back to TikTok.doesnt work when epstein was literally hanging out with moot and is more of an oldfag than 90% of the board
>>732384671Oh yeah, I should have added Seam being ERAM or its connections with FRIEND or literally anything involving him.
>>732383758Stephen King's It Theory
Kris bros…
>>732384781>Seam being ERAMtoo schizo for my taste>or its connections with FRIENDreasonable takeRight now he is as suspicious as Ralsei, with how much he knows while refusing to spill it out for you.
I think it's the fact that Toby went ahead and literally gave them matching angle and demon motifs. Like he's rubbing in the fact that they are literally made for each other but he's not gonna let them get together. The fucker us dabbing on us.
>>732385027Always bet on Kris being erased from existence at the end of the Weird Route.
>>732385027>your nameB-BROS?
>>732383758The fact that Dark Worlds play like Dragon Blazers is 100% intentional on the Knight's part
>>732385287truke is cat petterz RPG being the weird route, a simple knock off
>>732385262No. He gets erased from existence in the normal route. Weird route is our attempt for a perfect ending.
>>732385147>too schizo for my tasteERAM literally has the same mouth as Seam and we have the weird pixel Seam in Asriel’s computer that no theorist talks about but it would perfectly fit if that was ERAM since it was a digital entity. Plus the Shadow Mantle is his.
>>732385356No, Noelle says that Dragon Blazers 2 had an Evil Route that her parents didn't know about
I hope you guys enjoyed the Noelle video if you watched it, even with its flaws. I spent over a month working on it and got very ill with covid when I was almost done gathering footage, which is why the narration is so scratchy sometimes.
>>732384295Sometimes i see people refuse to acknowledge the romance in the weird route (not here most of the time) like it's not the only focus in the route of course but the way Noelle gets more interested in Kris feels important>>732384572Yeah some people are so into dr that they don't want ut characters to do anything at this point
>>732354794justice for Asgore
>>732385510It kinda fits with the "Ralsei is a plushie" theory too, but I just feel it's a little lame.Compare the Japanese lines from both if you wanna convince me.I bet my money on Chara Eram/Chara-adjacent Eram instead.
>>732384572>Forgotten Man being Papyrusnopehe is Grandpa Semi
>>732385663Is that how you plug your channel what video
>>732385850Someone else posted it earlier in the thread. I don't plan to use that channel in the future unless I get completely possessed by an idea again.
>>732384469no but he did get to fuck this
>>732385850It was posted earlier in the thread.>>732363682
>>732376489tea party, with asgore finally
>>732354794KYS
>>732385736Nima?
It falls apart if you think about it for even one second but I did enjoy believing that Ralsei could be the green flower for almost two minutes awhile ago.
>>732370848Gonna go a little against the grain:Gerson says his chapter 7 has never been made.After the game has a single ending after chapter 6, we get chapter 7 as a "tour on the backstage" with Gaster were you just hang out and chat with him. After finishing his survey, he let's you mess around with the story and create your own ending for Deltarune.How would this be implemented in the game? I have no clue.
>>732385252I think people assume too much about ships in this game when we are talking about a bunch of teens that can’t drive yet and are still in high school. The entirety of deltarune is a snapshot of a few days in their lives, yet y’all be shipping Noelle with Susie and whatnot. Teens, especially indecisive disaster teens like Noelle, Susie, Kris and Berdly, change every fucking week and relationships barely last a month before the next one. There’s zero indication any two characters will last, and all indication that all ships will happen one after the other like an Archie comic since it’s a bunch of childhood friends and Susie as the new kid.
>>732385712The only thing I know from Seam’s speech in Japanese is that they speak like a grandma in there, so I guess it's different from Eram's Chara-esque speechhttps://anomalocaridae.neocities.org/drtheory/japanese
>"oh hey kris i know you and susie are going to the festival and since i literally don't exist can you get her some ice cream and say its from me so i can live vicariously through you? oh you're not going out with her well I'd DEFIENTLY never disagree with a lightner but can you PLEASE still take susie with you and make the purple dino happy i'm begging that is my singular selfish request for the love of god"the fuck is his problem
>>732386985Ralsei knows the future so he doesn't want Susie to be alone because something bad will happen during the festival.
>>732386985did you miss the whole part where he has a breakdown over the prophecy and the implied bad thing that happens involving Susie?
>>732385252I like how both act distant but if you leave them alone they start acting like the old days>>732386828I see your point to make the characters feel more real, but both normal and weird route has a different focus on the shipping slop so it feels important, also tecnically that already happened with Kris and Noelle when they drifted and in the weird route you kinda reconnect them, in a bad way of course
>>732385704>i see people refuse to acknowledge the romance in the weird routeIn an ironic way, some feminist video essayers essentially agree with the common opinion here that the weird route is about romantic routes in video games, even if they're afraid of calling it rape.Anons during the chapter 2 days understood, deep down, what was actually going on there.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708869109/#708889693
>>732386985he's gay for the lizard also susie might nuke hometown if she's depressed or something
>>732373173
>>732354794You already know.
Susie will grow wings
>>732383502>Can you expand on the Undertale kitchen concept?Mostly just assumption based on obvious clues (and I'm sure I'm still missing stuff) but it really comes down to what the theme of Deltarune is adding up to and how Undertale as a whole would tie into that theme logically:>the SOUL (via vessels) and other characters having the ability to "enter" these fictional game worlds that have meta awareness of the fact>also being able to create new (dark) worlds within these fictional worlds>Undertale itself involving the younger Frisk/Chara (who may be two sides of the same coin in this story and would explain their connection or where Frisk even came from... sorta) in a fantasy story that aligns with Toriel's kitchen (kid's imagination)>Deltarune being a teenager's story in a world based more around reality with these "characters" and the fantasy worlds-within-worlds having to be created manually>Kris escaping some sort of trauma in Deltarune like Mancountry might've before DR/UT... and thus possibly the "real" world too>Chapters 6 and 7 almost definitely dumping realizations on you and what these games really areThe big missing piece is why this trauma caused him to be afraid of people (maybe just ignoring the real world altogether) and who both the egg guy and Gaster/Sans/Papyrus are in this equation, but going back to the kitchen theory I think its incorporation is going to be alluding to how it (or rather "real world" kitchen appliances) became the basis for a fictional world to exist, and dark worlds are just the formations of new worlds within these worlds, but in this case in the past. This is also why I think what Carol's hiding in the bomb shelter is an artificial dark world designed to circumvent the limits of these games ending, and that Dess being the Knight is an attempt at reviving her with this logic.
>>732388601>the doe breakingfags were right all along i kneel
>>732387982Speaking of, this girl made two cool videos linking the weird romance with the Winter Wonderland songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9PYNc2IMQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ubWed-_8Q>Gone away is the bluebird
>>732389013I love these vids. I actually considered ordering her Noelle merch since it was pretty cute.
>>732367193Who's to say the items can't be passed over onto another save file? Transferring items between slots?
>>732367097Kris is a male.Kris shared a room with his unambiguously male older brother for his entire life.Brothers and sisters do not share a bedroom, for obvious reasons.Your insistence otherwise is transparently just an attempt to canonize your /u/ fetish.> Buh Toby saidI don't care what semantic games Toby devised to get progressive retards off his back, at the end of the day he wrote a male character.
>>732389396Kris being male means there's no easy excuse for the bloodstain
>>732389396another day of people ignoring Toby's We Baby Bears cameo
>>732389396THEY DON'T HAVEASPAREROOM
>>732385262Kris maybe, but (You) will be trapped in a broken hellhole of a perpetual world forever and ever... until you find the Chara-style reset of course.>>732385382Normal is going to be freedom.
>>732389396Asriel and Chara shared a room so I think the Dreemurrs are just like that
>>732370072>Chara>Obedient???
>>732389396female charafags in shambles
>>732370408Fuck the average player.Catering to the average player ruined gaming.
>>732389396Your insistence otherwise is transparently just an attempt to canonize your /y/ fetish.
>>732389549>The only way a bloodstain could reasonably come into existence is if a girl had her period while sitting thereAre you having a fucking giggle mate?
>>732390189I am
>>732390186>No uIf only you spent less time gooning.Perhaps then your atrophied brain would, at very least, be able to come up with a unique retort.
>>732390420It took you 5 minutes to type that?
>>732389659Then you build one.Or, at bare minimum, you put a dividing curtain up.
>>732389396Kris is male but honorary yuri to make Noelle feel comfortable
>>732383758Noelle wasn't playing dumb, she genuinely doesn't know SnowGrave. Some fuckery is going on.
>bump limit*ahem*SEX THE DEERSEEEEEEEEEX
>>732390550The Dreemurrs want human-monster grandchildren and Kris is a princess
>>732390460Most people are not so attention-starved as to spend every waking minute monitoring threads for replies.If that's a novel concept to you I suggest going outside and socializing.
>>732390578SnowGrave is a Dess spellYou basically accessed it by Kris knowing Dess can cast it, so by logic Noelle should too, if Dess is the Knight then she used snowgrave on Undyne in the unused text or Noelle being the Knight did it lemao
>>732390864The replies were already there
>>732390668Noelle will then pretend she's still loyal to Susie because there was no penetration.
>>732390703it checks out
>>732389630Hisnwhat
cuddle nolethese star captcha are the worst
God I'm so certain the ending is gonna piss me off. I'm preemptively mad about it.
