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Help me make a decision the game is on sale, but its ending soon
Buy it, pirate or skip it?
I like PoE2 and Grim Dawn, do you think this game is worth it?
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>>732356589
I mean, at the end of the day, just be yourself ;)
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>>732356589
Is this the game that has time gates shit and the developer acted like an idiot online? All these games have merged in my mind.
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>>732356589
In terms of combat it's closer to dark souls than PoE.
If looking at the trailers and game description seems intriguing then get it.
The combat is fun and engaging, and the art style and level design are some of the best in gaming
>t. someone who put 125h into it already
multiple playthroughs
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>>732356589
>I like PoE2 and Grim Dawn
The game is NOTHING like them
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>>732357353
man i don't enjoy the combat, feels lame as fuck and limiting, maybe my build sucks

friendly fire was a mistake, what the actual fuck are players meant to do when you're needing to dodge roll into enemies and slap them, when both players do it, you both hit each other and risk being stunlocked when the boss swings
can't do shit in multiplayer man
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>>732357353
Is there such a thing as build/gear diversity?
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>>732357187
yes, refining materials takes upwards to 1:30 minutes maybe higher, completely pointless and only there to provide busy work, also it only has 8 slots or something so you can't even leave a big batch to refine and go out, you need to constantly come back and refresh that gay shit
upgrading towns took time but they removed that because they are retards who don't play their own game and the backlash was too much
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>>732357482
gear sucks in the fact that nothing you get is actually good and requires you to slam it full of gems or refresh the enchantments
it feels like there's no real variety in the gear other than the obvious "this was built for a different stat" but it plays the same no matter what stat you use
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>>732357452
Play solo, you stupid asshole
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>>732357353
am i gonna enjoy this if the game design looks like poe?
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>>732357452
>feels lame as fuck and limiting, maybe my build sucks
Could be. It might have more to do with the way you're playing it as well, especially parries.

>friendly fire was a mistake
it makes perfect sense for the game. The idea of the combat is to be slow and methodical not a ganbang.
The collateral damage is smaller than your full damage so it's more forgiving.
Secondly, if you want to both attack the same target make sure you don't have similar movesets. Wide/sweeping attacks are bound to cause colateral damge. At least one of you should try a moveset that is more like a piercing attack, to avoid hitting your buddy.
It's what I had to do do adapt to my friend's way of playing (ooga booga swings)
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>>732357682
You want me to play a game that was clearly designed to waste time in tedious ways, by myself, to what, enjoy the mediocre dodge/parry slop? as if dude, the artstyle is the only thing it has going for it and the game has some serious issues
>>732357983
It's worse than PoE, at least in PoE you move faster, in this game it's a slog to do anything due to time gating and the fact you have 0 stamina until you get 20+
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>>732356589
I tried it during the free weekend. It’s basically just top down souls but less punishing if you get hit. I found it fun, wasn’t too hard, but not too easy either. I was having the same dilemma, I was gonna pirate it, but certain games are fucking annoying to constantly keep updating and it’s only 20 bucks for a game I actually enjoyed. However I didn’t get beyond the first 2-3 hours, so idk if it becomes more tedious over time.
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>>732357482
Absolutely, but it's very tied to the type of weapon you have and its moveset.
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The game is isometric dark souls with random item rolls and decent buildcrafting once you get into legendary items. They're planning to add a large number of classes with new skills, in addition to new zones. There is a town building component for you to spend gathered resources, this unlocks aesthetic customization and actual gear upgrade options. Bosses are okay and the "mapping" system in crucible is a neat concept but very shallow at the moment. Performance is much better and multiplayer gameplay is entertaining with friends.

I do not enjoy the insane amount of movement directly tied into every animation, both from the player character and enemies. It feels like you're playing dark souls 1 while enemies are from elden ring, they have 5+ attack combos that fly all around the screen. You get used to it as with any soulslike but it's annoying and the spacing is not consistent.

go into it expecting a soulslike, it's nothing like poe or diablo
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>>732358041
They need more weapon types then, as it is, players have to constantly roll through sweep attacks and most of the weapons have sweeping in their combo or as their running attack, there is no real getting away from it, two people trying to melee is a joke and you might as well give up, only ONE person gets to play when it comes to these fights and the other is forced to sit back and use ranged attacks that do no fucking damage.
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>>732358067
>it's a slog to do anything due to time gating and the fact you have 0 stamina until you get 20+
That's bullshit. You unlock teleportation as soon as you reach the city, and the game map is incredibly well connected meaning you can take shortcuts to reach almost any point on the map in 2-3 minutes.
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Yeah its a blast from the past
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>>732358319
>They need more weapon types then
They have a large variety of it, the issue is getting to them. You can try the research desk and rolling a few "unlock random weapon" in your category.
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>>732356589
Isn't this game early access? Shit actually needs to come out first
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OP here.
20 minutes until sale ends, dammit dont wanna miss it.
I liked Elden Ring, but never played dark souls games i enjoy open world games more.
I would say if they will add more unique weapons and gear in future updates its prob worth investment for me, Still its only 24 euro now so might be worth taking the risk
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>>732358781
What aspects did you like abut the open world?
just riding around on torrent?
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>>732358781
It’s not like it’s not gonna go on sale again. And whenever it does it’ll have more content.
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>>732359003
Its just feels nice to have a choice what you want to do?I completed the game + dlc and did every side quest only missed one by misstake and some dungeons since they were shit. I dont mine some linear or semiopen games, but i do love open world slop more.
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>>732357452
>friendly fire was a mistake
scrub, the friendly fire is the point
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>>732358319
If you know your weapon has a sweeping run attack and you intentionally sweep it into your ally that's entirely on you. The weapon doesn't just do attacks at random. FF makes you care about how you use your weapon moveset which is ideal and makes the coop feel interactive instead of a blob of players running forward smashing area attacks on top of each other
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Wtf is this true or is AI stupid again? I just missed the damn sale

Thomas Mahler (Moon Studios CEO) said this publicly on Steam forums and on Twitter/X during the last sale.

He didn’t say it in a big announcement — he said it in replies to players asking about the discount. That’s why it’s easy to miss unless you were following the discussions.

Here’s the exact idea he communicated (paraphrased, not quoted word‑for‑word):

The 40% discount was a special one‑time sale

It was the largest discount the game will ever get

Future discounts will be smaller

The 1.0 price will be higher
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>>732359281
>Its just feels nice to have a choice what you want to do
You have the same thing here. The main city hug is roughly at the center of the map and you'll have all sorts of bounty, quests and challenges scattered throughout, so you can pick and choose what you like.
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>>732359560
Retard what do you think an early access game is?
If you buy it in early access you're paying a discounted price to support an unfinished game and you get the full retail version once it's finished. Buying in EA is a discount for being an early adopter
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>>732359763
I know about that ffs, I am talking about sale for EA was apparently just a onetime thing and I fucking missed it, because my steam timer for sale was completely wrong or some shit.
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>>732359560
>>732359763
You pay to beta test the game and hope they actually finish the game, you also hope they dont completely overhaul shit you liked when playing it. Shit's for cucks
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>>732358041
>player character is slow and methodical
>enemies are lightning fast and spam attacks non stop

Reminds me of a game
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>>732360149
I got more than my money's worth already and I want to have my say in how it will be overhauled
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does it actually look as good as in the official trailers? I want to test my new 9070 XT
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>>732360615
>enemies are lightning fast
nah this isn't elden ring
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I just pirated it since i missed the sale. I hope the dev said its 40% off as a bait and they will do sale again in future because many other studios have done it. Either way its good to try for free first and see if I like it
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>>732361254
Come back with impressions OP
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>>732356589
M&KB control is fucking terrible.
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>>732356589
buy it on sale in a couple years.
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>>732356589
Game is fun but they are removing the stats and making weapons act as classes instead and wiping out old saves once that happens. No idea when. Might be better to wait to play until then but read game is about 30 hours and has good enough amount of content
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>>732356589
i pirated it, but the dev is constantly updating and changing stuff so i just bought it out of convenience, it was cheap
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>>732356589
Lovely game, looks beautiful and those fucking animations are impressive.
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my only problem with the game is the lack of embers dropping or how you have to keep farming em via fishing. Crafting your own gear to completion is also a huge chore.
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>>732356589
>I like PoE2 and Grim Dawn
The arpg aspects of the game are very under cooked
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>>732356589
Combat not responsive enough playerwise, you tire after a 123 combo, but mobs have no stamina and some can do 5-6 hits streaks, maybe it will get better at launch, but I highly doubt it. Also need to collect resources time and time again, get boring after a while.
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slop gamer
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I think the game's great. I've played 25 hours and I'm gonna wait for 1.0 now, or at least whenever they add classes. Currently, you get pretty much locked into whatever weapon you spec into and can't experiment. Everything builds off different stats(str, dex, etc.) and you won't get much damage from them if you don't have those stats. Basically every weapon except what you're already using will have red text on it saying it's useless.
You can respec, but it requires you to do the roguelite challenge mode for a while to unlock the ability to respec, which then also requires you to get half-way through a run to get to the thing that offers respecs. All that, then you might not even like the weapon you try, so you can have to do it all over again.
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>>732359176
it's going up in price lmao
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>>732364423
Meh, we’ll see about that. It’s a flop when compared to their other games. It’ll go on sale again.
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>>732356589
i mean... it has its merits, but the combat system and resource management are NOT good. Could be worse, however
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>>732357353
I second this, game is fun even if obviously incomplete at this point.
>>732357983
PoE is about exploding trillions of monsters while doing quadrillions of damage, this is about handling 3 monsters at a time while being methodical about when to attack, they have zero in common.
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>>732365401
I’d say they’re similar in that they’re both “hard” in terms of difficulty, and poe2 is pretty slow compared to your average Arpg, unless they backtracked on that after all the crying? (I haven’t kept up)
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>>732363080
Before the last patch dropped I was getting embers out the ass, but after I barely get any. I get that they don't want them to be too common but goddamn they over-corrected.
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If you need embers just farm the crucible boss, you can dupe him infinitely. Kill him, back to the initial spawn of floor, enter the arena again and the boss will respawn, repeat for infinite legendaries, plage ichor and embers
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>>732365090
>It’s a flop when compared to their other games
>1.5mil sold in EA
Imagine lying on the internet
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>>732368031
>ori sells 15+ mill
>ori 2 sells 4-5mill
>nrfrtw barely hits 1.5 and that’s after they had to add coop
I know we live in the era where everyone has to pretend to be smarter than everyone else, even when they’re just showing they’re retarded.
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>>732368370
>Early access vs lifetime sales
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>>732357353
How woke is it?
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>>732368370
>they had to add coop
They didn't "have" to add it. It was mentioned they will add co-op and PVP since the was announced years ago.
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>>732356589
Does this game have a fleshed out campaign? All I've really seen is footage of some survival/crafting and multiplayer.
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>>732368579
It isn't. There's a black guy but he's just a normal person, not a nigger. There are two strong female characters but they both get humbled and a third one (a secondary character) that gets gored.
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>>732368718
>There's a black guy but he's just a normal person
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>>732356589
>do you think this game is worth it

Looking at that cover art I can say without doubt it's not even worth pirating.
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>>732368698
There is a campaign and it's really well acted, though the core premise feels very generic (ancient evil/infection starts to take over island, kings sends inquisition)
https://youtu.be/8tpJIbi_7AM?t=218
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>>732369380
I love the character animation
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>>732356589
It's just isometric dark souls with a really good artstyle.
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>>732368718
Baurus is honorary black
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>>732369519
The eyes saccades especially felt very life-like.
The cutscenes as a whole have been excellent (direction and all), I just fear the story will not be nearly as good - like a talented actor stuck in a shitty movie.
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>EA
I'm so fucking tired of EA I just want a done game to play. I don't have a backlog anymore, I have an endless futurelog instead.
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>>732370782
The version that's in here is failry polished and it feels like a full game with 20+ content of playtime.
You could play it now and do a second playthough with a different build once it comes out.
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>>732364423
Fuck. There's no cheap cd key resales either.
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>>732370967
I'll have to wait for another sale now.
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>>732368860
If pedos don't like it, it's probably pretty good.
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>>732371620
wicked is a pedo game though
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>>732371982
She and that frog looking blond bytch are made for Tyrese kun!
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Whoever had the bright idea to add the shoulder tackle to Heavy Armor while also making armor actually do something so that I don't feel gimped for not playing light roll only, god speed.
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>>732371072
Just pirate it like OP and you can buy it when a discount comes out.
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>>732372409
I've never seen/used it. Is it fun to use?
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>>732372409
>gimped for not playing light roll
Name ONE game where this has ever been the case
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>>732372582
Absolutely. Particularly useful earlier on when you can just knock shit off cliffs or into the water, since only those weird little flesh lizards seem to be able to swim. Everything else just dies if it goes too deep into the water. If you're not into cheesing enemies you can just knock them down with it and get a free charged attack in, or what not. Particularly nice for helping deal with those gay nigger teal colored knights, or the fucking witch bitch who likes to teleport constantly.
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>>732356589
Just beat the main story that's out, it's pretty good but there's some annoying things. The story/setting is pretty good, classic
>an ancient (plague) evil arises
>turns everyone into flesh monsters
combat is fun until you realise every weapon has a unique attack pattern, and trying to find one you like is hard. Two handers suffer the normal issue of
>good against mobs, garbage against bosses
and enemy attack animations are a mix of DS1 slow attacks and Elden Ring's pausing, on top of body charges/shield bashes being impossible to parry in my experience
development is a snails pace as well, they're apparently focusing on some class system which might suck ass and that's off the back of developing coop, so the actual main game/world is only 50% done with 4 zones out of 8 complete
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>>732357437
>The game is NOTHING like them
Yes it is, what the fuck are you talking about, retard?
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>>732373295
>this is exactly like Boss Baby



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