It kind of sucks.
It's so tedious I gave up after a few missions and refunded it.Spending 10 turns just starting the fucking map looking for enemies is torture. Not to mention you have to run around looking for individual groups of enemies.I can't place my finger on why but XCOM 2 didn't feel awful in this way, I guess it's because the maps are a little more linear and you get a good idea of where you need to go.
>>732383705The maps in this are fuckhuge compared to XCOM 2 but almost entirely featureless. The way spotting works also means you have to tiptoe around or get mowed down by any enemies that appear when you have to action points left, and even when you spot them they'll just run off into the fog of war again.I absolutely do not understand how these "finish in 10 rounds" side objectives are meant to be considered reasonable.
>>732383705>>732383954Yeah, the maps are too fucking BIG and too fucking BORING. It's worse when the enemy refuses contact and runs around the rim.
Damn really ? Reviews seem pretty good. But people have shit taste so ..
I played the demo and thought so too.
>>732384968It's easily piratable (csrinru) if you want to try it, but I've given up on it pretty quickly. I'm sure it must change somewhat as you get more complex equipment, but the early game at least is fucking rough in ways that I'm not sure can change much.
>Hmm yeah, nothing in the way of my shot at all
>>732383531I liked the demo a lot once I realized you shouldn't be crouching every turn, then you can actually move with decent speed. If enemies are running to the edge of the map that's really bad but not sure if that happens or how often.
>>732385216All the buildings in this game are so fucking ugly, and not in a utilitarian way
Sometimes your expect something out of next fest from devs you liked and you get this stinker. Was quite disappointed.
>>732385674That's how I felt about half swordA pile of gold on a mountain of shit
>>732384968>Reviews seem pretty goodIt's always like that. The game is objectively well made, and there's nothing to complain about in that regard. But the actual gameplay is just garbage. Games like this get good reviews and then fade into obscurity.>>732385216Cover is only valid if you are standing directly next to it. It plays like a mediocre board game with a bunch of arbitrary rules like this
>Five squadmates cost 240 trade goodsWhat the fuck? These dudes are basically just extra hits.
>>732385908It also gives you more firepower from your main guns
Why couldnt they just make more milsim XCOM with vehicles and mechs? Instead of this squad command retarded bullshit on giant mapsI basically just wanted a Phoenix Point, but good
>$40Yeah these guys are smoking dicks.
>>732386160bought a key for 20
>>732386160DLC is going to be another $45.
>>732386151>Why couldnt they just make more milsim XCOM with vehicles and mechs?That's pretty much what the game is?
What's a good game in this genre that doesn't suck? I have an itch now. Is Battletech with mods worth trying?
>>732386765Jagged Alliance 3 if you mean tactical turn based strategy
>>732386765Seconding JA3Expeditions Rome Expeditions Viking but its more jank
>>732386765All you'll get is answers from braindead retards
>mfw people were baited by the cinematic trailer into buying this game
>>732386765>Is Battletech with mods worth trying?play roguetech if you have autism or bta3062 if you have aspergers
Settlement defense missions are just suicide. Your squad can't hold off 25 fucking guys coming from all directions at once. It just doesn't happen. When you finally get them all retreating, low and behold a civilian dies and they all suddenly becoming wavering.Fuck you.
>early fagcessFucking nope.
>every single map is flat because terrain is too hard for modern devs
>>732387651>low and behold
This will fucking eviscerate Menace.
Shit becomes trench warfare every time when there's pockets of cover separated by miles of no man's land and then you just run out of ammo
>>732387986Posts like his are a diamond dozen, unfortunately.
>>732387986It's a doggy dog world
>>732387651Devs didn't fix retreating enemies not counting towards the control decrease either. So even if you've got 10 guys retreating on their turn, you lose because the zone is full.
>>732387996I believe it
>>732385759Luckily there's also Hellish Quart for us swordan enthusiasts
>>732383531Its doesn't, you fucking mind poisoned drone.You faggots literally said the same to any fucking game that is not a pedophiliac edgy rpgmaker 'game'.
>>732387996According to this thread, that's not a high bar to clear
>>732389010But it actually sucks. Combat is boring, sluggish, and terribly balanced.
>>732389046What is this?Is this the GFL2 we should've gotten? Or is it going to end up being gacha trash just the same and not even worth installing?
>>732385759Damn I liked playing Half Sword a few months ago and just saw it released and is all fucked up now, hopefully good in a few months after all the reviews. Haven't heard of the other game though.
>>732389397Download the demo for half sword if you don't already have it, I'd put money down that the devs will remove it from steam to force people to buy the early access trash version.
>>732389305I found it, and unfortunately, it's another Gacha.
This area defence mission, is it bugged? Or does it literally mean 0 enemies in the defence area for 10 entire rounds? Because if the latter, holy fucking shit.
>>732386765Hero Lodge
>>732389991Area defence just means don't let enough units in the defensive area, as your 'defence points' decrease per turn when they are in the area.As long as it doesn't go to 0 for 8-12 turns, you win.
>>732386151>I just wanted good video games
>>732386151I'd rather the system this game uses, where getting hit KO's mooks before killing the dude for good.Xcom is complete and utter horseshit RNG and you know it.
>>732391310I just held for 16 turns and it never ended and I lost
>>732391946Was there any other objective needed? If not, yeah bugged. That's annoying.
>>732386765UFO: Extraterrestrials gold edition
>>732384968>84% on SteamFor a niche game on its honeymoon days thats lukewarm reviews if anything
>another promising looking game turns out to be tedious and boring God damn man, I'm so tired of this shit. I just want something fun to play. Does it get better after you do a few missions? I only cleared through one in it's entirety and it was fucking boring.
>>732393168It gets better because your weapons/units suck less after a couple missions. They gain stats that improve durability, accuracy, etc.
>>732393168play hero lodge
Tips to play this shit on challenging? I got destroyed by like 15 niggas on my 1st fight, they were all clumped together
Are assault rifles okay, or should I stick with battle rifles?
>>732393674Playing Ironman/Expert, my best tip is to straight up avoid doing defense missions like the plague. I'm at the point where most of my guys are in rogue army/spec ops gear and still can't reliably defend the zones they want me to.Other than that, get darby's scout and extra concealment perk, alongside the pirate rags and enjoy being invisible to most things.
>>732393674Prioritize grenade launchers and spam grenades out of LOS, including using smoke to straight up run in the open.
>>732383531Once they said it would be an early access launch, I knew to skip it for a year or two. Glad I was right.
>>732384968For some odd reason, they've been marketing the hell out of it. Pretty confident they paid for reviews since every Youtuber and streamer has shilled it.
>>732394253It would easily be within hooded horse's budget.
>starter vehicle has a light and a heavy weapon slot>the shop only has medium vehicle weapons for some reasonguess i'm just stuck with this shitty mmg forever then
>>732394207No shit. It's crazy how so many people ITT seemed to have boughted already. "Early Access" means "do not buy until a year later".
>>732394730I think in the demo you could use medium weapons in the heavy slot
>>732393674Why didn't you just pick the girl with the APC and kill everyone with the 50cal? Back her up with the commander guy who can donate his action points to another unit, so APC bitch can mow down everyone.
So, is there any way to fix the low FPS in the menus? The game works fine, but all the menus look like a slideshow.
>>732394730Heavy slots fit medium weapons as well.
>>732394881lmao is that how they "fixed" the absurd gpu usage in the menus?
>>732394946Nah, it's still 100% GPU.
>>732385216Black women aren't held back by walls
>>732394881Seems like a non-issue if >>732394946 is right. Menus often spike GPU usage because the framerate goes into the thousands.It's on you to stop this by setting a global fps cap of 200 or something.
>>732383531A comment pointed out this is just a war game table top and now I can't unsee it. With the same issues those games face too.
>>732395131I can't get more than 20 fps in the menu.
>>732395347Dick of the Gods.
>>732394848that skill does not work on APCs
>>732394107I can't even do the first FIGHT without getting blasted, I dunno what I'm doing wrong
>>732383531Go WokeGo Broke
>>732387163I like the Mech customization but the actual fights are just so boring, since you just walk up to enemies and shoot, and most weapons feel the sameDoes any of the mod enhance the actual combat at all?
So is everyone here mad because there are black people and women in the game? I'm having fun
>>732396267Not one person mentioned either..
>>732396041Deploy (crouch) your units. Whenever you see a enemy, your next priority should be to find the closest cover and then deploy. That keeps your accuracy up and your casualties down. Keep your squads spread out decently, and plink from range. Your guns are deceptively good at long ranges, but dogshit in CQC. Focus one squad at a time, with melee bugs being priority on bugs, and chaingun/Scav teams being priority on pirates. Take time to evaluate your options with regards to shot accuracy, always try and go for squadwipes, as early game enemies have shit morale and will break if you kill enemies quickly enough in their vicinity. Don't be afraid to disengage if you will take more incoming fire than able to send out. Keep your armor behind your infantry when possible, and use it's ammo to apply suppression on clumped up groups while your squads redeploy. Run over small melee bugs with your armor to save ammo. G3s are really good rifles, but early on you're better off with the M4, because the M4 can apply significantly more suppression in a burst. PACK AS MUCH AMMO AS POSSIBLE EARLY ON.
>>732383531Haven't looked through the thread but is this a case of /v/ being absolutely shit at video games and seething about it?
>>732397467yes but also game is kind of mediocre
>>732393674The game doesn't tell you this, and it caused a fairly big powergap for me early, but your squads have like, half their max troop cap. You can double, and suddenly your shitter levelesss troops can really fuck up.The game also really gets a lot easier when you have weapons that can suppress, and just make their units useless for a while
>>732386903The expedition games are so disappointingly woke. I was enjoying the vikings one but every other dialogue scene having some dumb woman chime in was annoying.
>>732397556I've seen people seethe the same way about Battle Brothers, with that same argument.
>>732397467It's not even hard, just really boring and slow and pretty poorly balanced.
>>732397301I forgot to add>>732397575is right. In pre-deployment, max out your squad's model count. Not only is it more hitpoints, but it's also more weapons firing per attack.
>>732397467I haven't really played it enough for it to get difficult.But, it's just kinda boring.Missions so far have been>Big empty map you have to walk around to find enemies>Objectives are kinda vague an basic. "Kill all enemies" and "Move squad to A and then to B" sort of thing.>It's not like Xenonauts where you have to fight your way to the downed spaceship and then breach it or anything.>There's not much in the way of abilities or different ways to command your guys.>Thus far 90% of my turns have been basic attacks.>One of my guys has an ability to give other people more TP. But, it uses more TP than it gives, so it's never seemed worthwhile.>You get a car which you can mount your guys in and do fire support. It's alright.And that's kinda just been it. I guess things will expand more later. But, it just feels very basic right now.
>>732397894At least that seems fixable, hopefully the (((early access))) helps iron it out.
the squad mg seems worse than just using your squad rifles when on large squadsI'm assuming you'd only want to use it on a cheap minimum size squad where it would actually be better than their very weak squad attack?
>>732397467I am so fucking shit at games and never really played Xcom at a high level and I've been passing the first levels easilyThis board is fucking doomed
>>732397894There's a lot of advanced tactics but it's mostly locked behind prohibitively expensive rare drops in the shop. The early game is fairly mundane but I feel it adds contrast to the midgame (10-15+ hours into the game, lol), where you have a couple of assault squads, a vehicle or two, and a few specialists with support weapons/skills. IMO the main thing that needs to happen is the shop being expanded and the "Rare" drops being actually rare items and not just a random roll for anything on all loot tables.
>>732398318MGs are for applying suppression on multiple targets with the utility of being able to pierce light armor like on bug warriors or boarding commandos. Really useful in very specific situations.
The mods for this game are going to be awesome if the toolkit is any good
anyone else have problem with overheating?
>>732398504I can't wait until the inevitable 40k mod.
>>732397467It's early access so if that isn't (you)r thing than you'll probably be dissapointed, its a little barebonesBut the core of the game is good imo
>>732398552yup they already have the jump packs in the game, my stormboyz will be day 1
>>732398552__halo__ would fit better, thougheverimagine how peak it would be, carrying out a routine counterinsurgency operation against insurrectionists, then bam, the covenant show up to gape you
>People ITT upset that their squads are shitkickers getting absolutely floored at the start of the gameAre you fuckers new to this genre? Have you even played anything other than the 2K XCOMs? I do agree that the maps could use some squishing but holy fuck complaining that your units suck at the start is like complaining that your starting weapon in an FPS is a shitty pistol.
>>732385216...is that a negress?
Is heavy body armor even worth it? +200 cost to a squad, when you can basically bring a second entire squad for that price...
>>732398730She looks like she fucks white men exclusively
So what do you do in this nig ass game?
It's pretty fun once you get a couple of missions in and get some actual gear.Slow start and needing actual tactics will inevitably filter retards though.The battle brothers system of unrefundable perks feels kind of weird here though, with a set of specific characters. It's kind of annoying to realize you took the wrong direction for a character and there's now just nothing you can do about it ever.
>>732398325You've invented this crisis. Basically nobody here is saying it's too hard or they're struggling, you responded to someone speculating based on nothing.
If you guys are having performance issues, check your drivers, my temps are barely higher than ambient
>>732398867
>>732398998Im just talking shit on my 2nd monitor while playingbut yeah modern /v/ is basically a gacha board in 2026
>>732398867seen that shit before. her dad is White. she knows whats up
>>732399043This guy voted for kamala.
extremely barebonesruns like mega shit
some of the battle music is cool, I really did love the music in Battle Brothers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yis4kZaR80
>>732383531The demo from the last next fest was enough for me to ignore this completely until its out of early access and on a deep discount
>>732397720Like double HP and damage potential, it's a huge upgrade. You really, reaaaaaally wanna use it.
>>732399115>votinglollmaoKEK
>>732383531I knew this game would be shit the moment they said it would have squad-based alternating turns and everything I'm seeing only confirms my decision
>>732387148FUck you, seriouslyTrailer is literally nothing like the game lmao, this shouldnt be allowed
>It's a 'run to the end of the map, destroy two nests, and rescue the scientists in 10 turns' map
>>732398930>unrefundable perksthere's literally a "demote" button right there
>>732386151I kind of agree.I respect the inventiveness but don’t fix what ain’t broke.
>>732383531>government funded woke DEI game sucks
>>732399413Most of the 'in X turns' objectives are outright impossible. Units only move so far per turn, even assuming I don't attack at all, there's literally not enough turns to make it that far in X turns.
>>732399413>>732399756There is nothing gayer than clearing the map and then having to spend 2-3 turns just clicking the max walking range for all your retarded units. I genuinely hate it.
Like battle brothers, it's shit because you are forced to use a specific set of tactics or else you take crippling losses.
>>732398751The point of the mission gear cost cap is for you to bring the best gear for the mission, rather than bringing all the best stuff you have every time.
>>732398871Define "do".
>Entire thread full of people shitting on it because it's "woke"
>>732397593BB was mediocre too
>>732395946You use her as a scout that can tank ambushes. After making contact, you dismount, fire on the enemy, get your points refilled and fire again.
Here's our factions, some ugly fucking bulldyke, a mac computer, and a 10/10 blonde aryan queen. Hmm who will players side with?
>fight some saboteurs>they fucking run to a map corner and camp there behind rocks >all around is open terrain>have no armor and only basic riflesfun
>starts your squads with 5 squaddies>if they die they're perma gone>they're not automatically replaced from your pool>the indicator for how many you have in your squad is very easy to miss if you don't know what it is>the button to replace them is NOWHERE FUCKING NEAR this indicator and is completely unlabelled>fewer squaddies means less ammo means less damage output means you literally cannot kill enough enemies to complete objectivesvery cool and realistic>game bitches at you when you deploy with less than 70% of deployment points or whatever>fucking SILENT when your squads all have 1-2 dudes in themamazing
>>732400163Well maybe you should have brought better weapons.
>>732396103it's GET woke go brokerepeating "go" twice makes you sound like a retard
>>732400209>if they die they're perma goneWhy lie? The first casualty is always saved, then a dice roll is played for any further ones. You improve the chance by upgrading the medbay. Not gonna read further since you clearly didn't play the game.
>>732400240first mission
>>732400301he meant that it doesn't automatically refill the lost members of a squad, retard
>>732383531I enjoyed the demo enough and wanted more and purchased the game.I dont mind a diverse cast, the jeeta in the demo seemed firey enough.Is /v/ only mad because browns or is there legit gripes?
>>732400163outskilledjust surrender
>>732400301if they DIE they're gone, not if they ko'd, idiotmaybe read my fucking post before mouthing off like an inbred retard
>>732400381>Is /v/ only mad because brownsYep>>732400163flank them
jane darby is my spec ops waifu
>>732385908they all have to have the same gear, if the squad has better gear squaddies cost more
>>732400603not what he's talking about, retard
My Martian GODDESS
>>732400736>euphoricm'lady
Most of the major design issues were there in the demo and if they weren't fixed for EA it's unlikely to be fixed for release. Better just write this one off and move on.
>>732383954I mean it's early access? Tell them to fix it.
>>732400790Isn't the purpose of early access to call out dumb shit and fix it before release? It's why EA always means "check back next year".
>>732400893they got the feedback from the demo already and did nothing with it
>>732383531i will wait for full release games like this are only good after extensive testing and balancing. meanwhile xenonauts 2 is almost out
>>732400910Nobody plays demos, lol. Demos are meant to represent the game, too, not be a beta test, like EA is.
>>732386765>>732386151go play Xenonaut 1 X-Division, just turn off air combat and have fun
>>732400484>>732400438i wasted them but it was annoying, to run whole map chasing them
>>732386765Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children>well that's not similar at allit's close enough
So is this game like nuCOM, if u stand 1 tile away from cover its no like it wasnt there at all, no ballistic calculation?
>>732401489yeah, though even in nucom obstacles will deflect at least one shotphoenix point's 3D cone traced shots fixes so many fucking issues with these games, if only the rest of it was good
>>732401489Cover can block LOS, I think. But you can choose to shoot at tiles you can't see and if enemies are there, they take damage.
>>732400209They should auto-refill damaged squads after a mission.
>>732401489You're in cover or you aren't. Standing behind an entire wall ingame doesn't protect you, only standing right beside it.
>>732400209>Game should play the game for me and I should just watchActual unironical zoomer retard faggot
>>732402649dumb nigger
>>732403072>cretin that can't even pay attention to his units calls someone else dumb
>>732403170nigger, I won easily, it was just annoyinglike how dumb you are?>frogposterah, yes mentally challenged tier
>>732403286>the zoomer retard that can't watch over his units is still talking >"w-why isn't the game playing itself! This isn't like my favorite streamer!"
seems like some of you should go back to babby nu-xcom and spam overwatch for 50 turns
>was very excited for Cyber Knights Flashpoint last year>ended up really disappointed with it and dropped it after a few hours>was very excited for Menace this year>ended up disappointed with what I pirated and dropped it>is very excited for Mars Tactics later this year>...Turn based bros... what do I play now?
>>732385908no your primary fires once per squaddie. if you've got a really got primary on a squad you want to max out the squaddiesyou can have smaller squads for specialist weapons because they only ever have 1 person firing them>>732400714buying this is such bait. 240 is insane. better off getting the x recruits per mission upgrades for the ship
Before I waste this fucking rocket, can it take out the tower in one hit?
>>732403956doubt it
>>732400893>Isn't the purpose of early access to call out dumb shit and fix it before release?It is but it almost never happens like that because we live in a world where early access is primarily a way to sell incomplete games and if it doesn't earn enough the project is abandoned.
>its empty enemy truck capturing area
>>732403972Well turns out it takes two
>>732403956Well? Did it work?
Someone post her archive, thanks.
>>732404373>>732404330>He already answeredFUCK.
>>732404378I feel like I know what this is about lmao
>>732385216Gameplay's not the problem, the idea that nigger women would die for any worthwhile cause is laughable though.
>>732404427(;
>>732385216>1845x1200>Going out of your way to crop out hit chancesWhat do you get out of this?
>>732396041Playing on high difficulties while not understanding the game, that's what. >But I need muh challengeWell you found it, you're getting pounded in the ass on your first try.
>>732404582>Going out of your way to crop out hit chancesyou can see your hit chance?
>>732383531I was on 5 different threads here and they all got 404 purged. What the fuck is up with the jannies today?
>>732383705Because the map in xcom2 was much much tighter and you had clear marked goals. Even the much wider zombie maps usually kept you busy.
>>732399943>Reseteratards trying to cause controversy>People are actually not falling for the bait and just talking about the game's shortcomings insteadLol. Kekmao even.
>>732404582There are hit chances?
i know youre here, yugi
>>732383705>I guess it's because the maps are a little more linear and you get a good idea of where you need to gono its because the game will point you toward the direction of enemies and even make them run toward you. City maps where the only ones that didn't have any problem with enemy being too much apart
>>732404838>>732404931You can literally see them here >>732403956
>>732404445They will die, and murder to secure access to BWC.
FIRST DEFENSEPLENTY OF LOOT
grandpa killing everyone
I just boughted Jagged Alliance 3 because of this thread
>>732405032wtf all I got was shitty alien carapace
>>732405074the infantry's only real job is to cover the big guns
>>732385087>csrinruWhats up with that site lately? I tried getting the new hoi4 dlc and usually theres always someone uploading the raw files in a .zip but the faggots have been posting really fucking sus .exe files instead and advertising "scenes" without a link that dont even exist or some retarded russian site.Same thing with other tiny indie games. Fuck them.
>>732404868They're turbo gay every day. AI shit threads like Claude still up but talking about playing video games is forbidden.
>>732405145infantry teams have like 3-4 men, pirate rpg or chaingun and basic riflepike is real MvP tho, his +40 Ap and targeting is great
>>732405168I haven't seen any of that. I just get the preinstalled ones from the trusted guys.
Man Darby fucks shit up in the full releaseHer high base accuracy and cover ignoring perk are crazy together
>>732383531Taxpayer funded woke trash with forced DEI characters, and a shitty game on top of that.
>>732404902If you wanted to play xcom 2 again, you'd do it. But you don't want that, you want this. Something different.
>>732405074Where do you get a 5th of the starter SLs?I've only found mercenaries via paying for the contact in the market
>>732405145Wow, it's just like real life mobile infantry.
>>732383705>I can't place my finger on why but XCOM 2 didn't feel awful in this way, I guess it's because the maps are a little more linear and you get a good idea of where you need to go.Pods in XCOM 2 all know where you are and walk right up to the edge of your LOS. Also the game is pretty harsh with its time limits, while release Menace basically doesn't have them despite them being a part of your rank in the demo.
>>732405145Vehicles are a lot more annoying to repair and less disposable, but the early game doesn't have a lot of AT threats.
>>732385216why is that artstyle so ugly? Both portraits and the general style?
>>732386151I still wish for a Spellcross sequelXCOM but against fantasy invasion with orcs, dragons and magic
>>732383531Too woke for me.
>>732389515>it's another GachaI got hyped for nothing
I am having XCOM itch again. Is Battle tech any good, seems similar enough
>>732405450If it's just the portraits you don't like, then you're in luck, since those are typically extremely easy to change with mods.
>>732404838>>732404931>There are hit chances?It's the accuracy tab on the right
Its so weird System map menu burns my GPU no other part of the game makes it go so hard
>>732406102There seems to be something weirdly inconsistent on that map, where it runs fine for some and dogshit for others. The hotfix made one of the settings just disable all effects on the screen if you put it on low.
Man everything is so expensive, just a vehicle upgrade costs as much as my entire mission loot
>only one system>can't wait to get different missionsthis is lame as fuck
>>732405280same, you buy for contract and then hire him using authroity
I can fix her
>>732406786Oh, huh, after a few I just assumed it was mercs only in that recruit pool.
>>732406787Is that the one that constantly screams edgy stuff like >I wanna rape their corpsesI played the demo and there was entirely too much talking with some of the pawns just saying the weirdest stuff.
>>732406934She gets a little too excited when she or another squad gets a kill.The dumb edgy dialogue seems to be the pirates/raiders.
Menace? More like... NIGGER MENACE! LOL
>>732398867>>732400736>>732406787>trying to meme mid women from a mid gameThe bar has been lowered
>>732406934I'm pretty sure she's that indian woman from Space Marine 2.
>>732407185Poopjeta from SM2 bowed before some cracka baka senpai desu even.
>>732406934Those are some of the pirates and they toned that down since the demo.
>>732407264They still say the whole "killing you will make me cum" thing, no?
>>732407303They also say you're now breathing manually
>>732407303There's a version of it; but its also toned down. I think it turns into something like killing you really turns me on or gets me off or something like that.
>>732406187>one of the settingswhich setting?
>>732407242Well he was the equivalent of an angel in her universe.
>>732400246he repeated that once
I played one mission and i dont get some mechanics, is it one turn for enemy and one turn for me? whats with the random shooting when i move is it pure cosmetics or theres overwatch system
Why is it so hard for indies to just make a single decent xcom game?
>>732407757Because you're a normalfag that doesn't actually like the subgenre, and recoil away from anything that isn't the most polished and generic title.
>>732407697You activate one unit and take its turn, they activate a unit and take its turn. Repeat until all units have been used. Normally there's going to be more enemies than you, so there'll be several enemies moving at once.>whats with the random shooting when i move is it pure cosmetics or theres overwatch systemWhat random shooting? There's no overwatch, though some rare miniboss type enemies will shoot back the first time they're fired on or some shit.
>>732407918i swear i had multiple occasions where i moved one unit and then enemy moved+ shoot i never had situation where i could move all 4 squads without enemy interrupt
>>732385216>sheboon with sardonic smirki'm beyond nigger exhaustion and nigger seizure.
>>732407840No I want classic Xcom with 26 individually controllable, intricately customisable soldiers, half of them being rookie meatshield only existing to tank for my elites. And being able to regularly take heavy losses while coming out ahead as long as the job gets done.
the pirate jumpsuits are cool, very mobile
Honestly, I've never seen a game that lags more in the 2D menu than in the 3D environment. The premise of the game sucks too. I'd rather be a mercenary than a fucking peacemaker. Why the fuck did they decided to make you some kind retard in a blue helmet instead of a normal mercenary when it makes more sense?
>>732408835>Why the fuck did they decided to make you some kind retard in a blue helmet
>>732408952Wait, I thought you guys were joking that it was sponsored by the German government. It all makes sense now lmao
>>732409016nigga its on intro of the game and their steam page
>>732408531Sounds interesting. Recommend me a XCOM game. I never played any
>>732409016steam/the devs made it not show directly on the store page after the initial noticing and backlashyou have to click read more underneath the awards portion
>>732407461No, they definitely still say killing you will make them cum. Or the subtitle was more like "cuuuuuummmmmm". I'm not kidding.
>>732409106I didn't notice it in the intro, and on the Steam page it's hidden in a tab that no one ever opens.>>732409153I'm surprised they're selling this game to me at all.
I didn't like the demo for this but I'm pirating it. If I download and delete and download again every day how many euros will I be stealing from the kraut government?
>>732409150Starting with the basicshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/7760/XCOM_UFO_Defense/Xenonauts is a newer spiritual successor.
I need to make a sequel to this picture.
Even on ultra Textures they are low res almost GTA San Andreas tier where is all that gpu power and vram getting spend on?
>>732409569who wrote this
Why would i play this garbage over XCOM 2?
>>732409878Why would you play Xcum2 tho?
>>732409864Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz from Chrząszczyżewoszyce.
>>732409897because it's a fun game with 5 billion mods
>>732407697>>732408031I think it's cosmetic to not make the game feel too static, you know how in XCOM sometimes your soldier is right next to an enemy and they just stare each other
>>732409924You've been down that road, anon. You know where it goes. You've experienced it 100s of times.Time for a new game, with new mechanics and story.
>>732409569i fucking loved syrian warfareany news when this will come out?
>>732410009Yeah but nothing about this game is gripping, maybe in the way a runny shit grips your lower abdomen
Starting to get enemy armed vehicles, how common are they later in the campaign?
>>732407918i completely misread ur post at first, ignore >>732408031now i get its not like xcom where ENTIRE squad moves on your turn its you unit then enemy unit and so on, i like it a lot better than xcom2 system, alpha striking was major design issue in that game for me
>>732409924Is there a mod that fixes how spawn pods and "stealth" work?I played it near the release and it was somehow less fun than nu-xcom 1. Then I tried it again with all the DLC and it still had the same problems. I feel the default squad size is too small making a single bad chain of rolls a death sentence.But maybe mods can fix it, what are some go-to mods for you?
>>732398730
>>732410156the mods that claim to "fix" those things just annoyed me honestly and i can't recall their names either you could look through the workshop, most collections include the bigger gameplay mods so you could look through some of them
>>732410042The game is currently in early access in the shitty Russian store, and they seem to still be working on it. I guess adding drones and all the other modern stuff we see in Ukraine turned out to be a bigger deal than they thought, considering the game was originally planned for release last February.
>>732407264No it was definitely a squaddie saying it because I recognised the portrait.
>>732410187>mfw I live on this islandwhat happened? aliens decide they want a piece of me specifically?
the maps are too small, you can barely maneuver
The fist two operations are easy, I'm on my third one and every enemy has grenades, flamethrowers, rpgs and shit I've restarted a mission twice now
>>732409864Poland is all coal burners and oil drillers. Unrelated but I'd totally let a black chick call me Massa.
>>732383531Germoids don't do the play game, they concept grasp not
>>732405423Not exactly what you are after but look at the X-Chronicles mod for OpenXCom. Total conversion mod that refluffs the invasion as magical in nature.
>>732405696Battletech is 7/10 vanilla. And a 10/10 with BTA 3062 mod.
>>732405696HBS Battletech is half decent, but wasn't built with any scaleability in mind and has one of the worst data structures imaginable. As such serious mods run like shit with it. Also hope you like diversity and inclusion, because you don't have a choice in the core game.
>>732405696Battletech is fun, but I wouldn't say it's similar to Xcom. It has a completely different combat system, and you'll get very confused if you try to play it like Xcom.
>>732412235When people are after a 'like XCom' they usually just mean managing a bunch a niggas going on missions. Not necessarily a turn based tactical squad management game using the same combat as the XCom games.
>>732383531its woke and lamelike always white men are sidelined and depicted as weak or evil meanwhile every important strong and powerful character is female or black
>>732383531Oh I remember seeing this game. Completely lost any interest once I saw how much forced diversity and inclusion is in it. Not really a fan of having ugly women and minorities forced upon me. Might pirate but won't buy it unless it is 95+% off.
>>732412323No, in that respect it's like Xcom. Battletech just more about walking tanks than the usual tactics with cover and all that
>>732412368All they had to do was allow editing of character/units and everything would have been fine more or less. But they specifically said they refuse to do that.
>>732412368It's not even its main problem, it's just not fun.
>>732383531another woke slop that crashed and burned by pandering to faggots, good riddance
These area defence missions are genuinely fucking impossible
>>732412838why?
>>732412838>You have the freedom to set up in defensive positions and let the enemy come to you>ImpossibleIt's the opposite.
>>732405103its a very good game so enjoyjust so you know there is a mod that shows the chance per hit percentage if you dont like the ambiguity
>>732411002That's from front mission 3, which recently got a remake. It throws you into political intringue and wacky adventures across the world to rescue your sister and retrieve a prototype non-nuclear bomb while piloting mechs.
>>732412884The rules of when enemies affect capture progress are immensely in their favour, even broken units still count. With aliens especially they'll just bum rush on to the point and advance the capture before you even take an action. It's easy to kill them, but they'll just fill the capture bar anyway.
>>732413032deploy mines
>>732413032Suppressed/fleeing units don't count for capture progress. Lmao.
>>732413016I was bored by JA3. When I first started it, I had to read bios for 30 minutes. Then when I started playing I got about 10 minutes in before quitting because I was so bored.
why can you not wait between assignments for better assignments? you just have to take whatever shit you're offered? what kind of merc game is this?
>>732409569cats who play are too good for this gay earth
>>732413183>what kind of merc game is this?A bad one.
>>732413092you sound retarded just pick 4 guys and play the game>hurr I want to know the deep and intricate background story of this nympho medic girl
>>732413183you are not a merc, you are a government force send to help in the wayback, you are supposed to do everything
>>732413326oh you're like a UN peacekeeper? i had to skip the intro stuff because my gpu was melting from the shitty optimization
>>732413305JA3 should have started me with a preset team of red-shirts and a tutorial mission (skippable on replays) before letting me near the character selection screen. That way it could have held my attention far longer.
>>732413092>>732413585ADHD
>>732397301>Deploy (crouch) your units. Whenever you see a enemy, your next priority should be to find the closest cover and then deploy.I thought the biggest objective was to suppress the enemy to be able to do anything else
>>732413585how the fuck did you end up playing turn based games with such a low attention span?
>Pirates and rouge army like to throw rockets and morters at you>no way to pop them without going through a bunch of bullshit half the time>Just gotta watch your squaddies get suppressed and popped.Haha... Rouge army is worse that shitter pirates by far, but at least it's fairly easy to pop their babu walkers with anti material rifle.
>>732413483>Far flung system is falling apart because of aliens and rebel factions>You're a force from the core systems, meant to restore earthgov order>The FTL jump fucks up and your mothership loses almost all of its advanced weapons and gear >You're so understaffed that you need to work with the factions in the system to get resources and manpower>Your mothership is damaged and needs repairs, but it's still so far ahead of everything else in the system that you can jump from planet to planet and deploy to solve problems nearly instantly. The factions see you as useful for this.
>>732413641Because Xcom 1 and 2 did it right by giving me the action packed tutorial mission right away, then sneaking in the strategic layers later.
>>732413769roguemortars
how the fuck do you people start engagementslike, at the start of the mission, how do you move? I'm always in a horrible fucking position when it's time to shoot
>>732413993Have you tried moving from cover to cover?
>>732413993COMPLETELY ignore any "complete the mission within" secondary objectivesAlways advance at least 33% less than you want toFlanking manoeuvres have to be reeeeeeeeeeally wide, like 6 turns wideSpecial weapons and vehicles make things actually work that just don't in the early game
>>732414028my first mission was in a snow wasteland with basically no cover where the enemies were
>>732414070>COMPLETELY ignore any "complete the mission within" secondary objectiveswell that would definitely explain it
>>732414082You do have an APC to provide some protection in open terrain, right?
>>732414130yes but only 1, I have 3 units I need to cover
>>732413938Honestly, the MG spam from them is worse.>Like 4 MG squads, 2 laser walkers, and a fucking sniper team on one flank.Haha....Very fun to deal with.
>>732414174You can meme it up a bit with the APC by loading one group in, having a second following behind it, and having your third go wide away from the enemy position to eventually flank them someday, maybe after six to eight weeks.Don't take your APC too close to enemy units (like 5 tiles or thereabouts) though because grenades can fucking murder it.
>>732414240it's funny how aggressive the "finish quickly" submission is considering how long it takes to do fucking anything in a fight
>>732413938>He doesn't know the memeYou must be quite rouge in the face
>>732414430I've been found out
>>732383531the best thing aboutz this game is the intro. the actual game is like it was made by amateurs and the graphics are bleh
>all these low attention console shitters lured into a PC genre by nucom
>>732383531sounds just like battle brothers
>>732414879It's worse than battle brothers actually.
>>732414551>got both nucom's plus expansion>don't ever remember finishing either (although I'm sure I finished the original at least once)>also have xenonauts 1>this game (even though it's shit) I haven't boughted and probably will never buyededStruggling to pick which to play.
>>732413483You're colonial marines, send from the homeworld to kill shit until things stop being on fire.>i had to skip the intro stuff because my gpu was melting from the shitty optimizationWeirdly mine was also melting in that intro cutscene until I updated to the latest GE-Proton. I assume that doesn't help but if it does then you know.
the whiteboy-loving smug half black chick is an incredibly hard carryshe is the best infantry unit hands down by like 50 miles, it's not even a contest
>>732416240yeah her concealment bonus and her extra range thing just break the enemy ai completely
Is it me or is smoke OP as fuck
>>732417201It's very good against pirates / rogue armyVehicle smoke pods doubly so.
>>732413638early on in the game, when you only have your shitty M14 style rifles, it's very hard to get suppression going via squads. And ammo on your APC is usually too valuable to waste on suppressing everyone. Later on when you have actual rifles and LMGs, then you can go without cover in favor of suppression.
>>732416240The tradeoff is that her with a full squad is typically more expensive than a APC. Darby's squaddie point cost is the most expensive per unit in the game, and for the price of her you can get two or three other squads with support weapons and light armor.
>>732417201it's good. completely blocks shots>>732417436doesn't that depend on how many upgrades you've given the squad and their equipped primary and armor? 8/8 pike is mega expensive for me because i gave him heavy armor
The best vehicle pilot is the old man, you can give him the recycle ability that lowers HP by 30% but also lowers vehicle deployment cost by 30%.If you need that 30% HP on your vehicle you're already losing the mission.
>>732417436Yeah, but she ignores 50% of cover, enemies can't see her, and she has extremely good accuracy. She can just about solo a map
>>732385216And this is why I'm not going to bother even trying it. How the fuck is this acceptable still?
>>732417703i have soloed several missions with her, mostly the ones like the alien egg thing where you just need to walk to certain spots then evac
>>732417684>If you need that 30% HP on your vehicle you're already losing the mission.If you're not savescumming the 30% health is the difference between getting disabled and fucked by one heavy attack and dying + losing the vehicle.
Commandos 3 but woke, pass
>>732417654I'm not sure how exactly it works, but I know for certain that squaddies get more expensive on Darby than others. I think a portion of the SL tax is added to each squaddie.Brand new save, Darby's maxed out infantry squad with nothing on them besides the default rifle and fatigues costs 183 to Pikes 123. Even after the SL supply tax, her squaddies seem to be slightly more expensive than Pike's (143 to 103), and Carda's squaddies cost virtually nothing like their SL.
Damn it, I can't remember what sound an owl makes... PIKE?
>>732418487Rewa being dumbfounded when complimented by a squad leader is kind of funny, you can practically hear her blush.
Umm, what are supply drops?
>>732417887>If you're not savescumming the 30% health is the difference between getting disabled I mean just use reactive armor, how many rockets can you possibly eat in a single mission? Reactive armor has 3 charges
>>732386765Don't play roguetech.
>>732419031I've not seen reactive armor in the store once and I'm a few ops post rogue army appearing.Using an uncommon item to counteract the downsides of a perk you took is a good strategy, that doesn't mean those downsides don't exist though.
>>732418969it drops supply (ammo)tooltip on the actual call-in explains it iirc
>>732418969It's like an airstrike but you get a crate with a one time ammo refill, useful for reloading APCs or special weapons
How does camouflage work? Do you get detected if you shoot? Do you need suppressed weapons?
>>732419475you got vision, detecion and concealmentvision how far you can see, straight forwardnow if you have vision 9 and an enemy goes 9 tiles away from you BUT has 1 concealment, you wont see him BUT BUT if you have 1 detection his 1 concealment gets negated, so you see him, no idea about firing weapons though
>>732404582It doesn't matter. Unless you're directly beside a building, it may as well not be there. You can see right in the screenshot there's no shield cover in that direction despite a massive building being in the way.
>>732420931>It doesn't matterCool, so why crop it?btw >>732405942
>>732418274the right guy is unironically strong, giving extra 40AP to your strongest squad is great
>>732383531>Menance>Oh what an interesting concept>Ruined by mandatory diversity and inclusionGenuine pity. It is exactly the sort of game I would have purchased on a gamble otherwise.
Darby is my strongest and cutest soldier. I think it's moe that she is afraid of bugs.
>06/02/2026>already forgottenShouldn't of went woke
Oh man I can't choose between this and the anti personnell mine launcherThe mine launcher sounds really good for defensive missions but so does this
>>732422591I went for the big gun
Are there any bb easter eggs?Aside from webknecht sounds that are featured in the trailerVisuals and music seem soulless compared to bb
>>732422591The minigun all the way. Mine launcher sucks cock compared to the minigun.
>>732416240>>732417436>>732418274>spec ops cost more than gruntswho knew
>>732417654it's kinda stupid you can't blindfire into smokeespecially with stuff like the motion sensor showing you where they are through it
>>732423350I think you can with area attacks no?Also off topic but the flamethrower is STRONG, completely ignores cover
aussie cunt x disabled tanker girl OTP
ok the katyusha kinda sucks AND you have to spend 80ap to reload after each attack? Hell no
>>732424040That's not the issue with the weapon, the weapon itself is great if you know where enemies are.The issue is like 80% of missions have 'DO NOT DESTROY X BUILDINGS!' as a side objective.In the game where a missed wet fart can blow up a building.
i wish they copied phoenix point. it would have been nicer to aim at 3rd person or see your soldiers lay down supressive fire. too feel in the action
>>732424164you don't have to completely every single side objective you know>>732424379this is a platoon level game, that is a squad level game
does the ships hull get repaired with each upgrade or is it a story segment where it gets fixed
>>732424782>you don't have to completely every single side objective you knowYes but they are there for a reason, NOT doing them generally means you're not getting as many points as you should have, which makes the game harder.It's bad game design to give people 'explode the town lulz!' weapons but then say "Oops sorry you can't use em though!"
Is every single mission randomly generated? Seems like a big miss to not have the final map in a mission designed to be fun and unique.
>>732426195it's usually a big final battle to push the enemy off the planet. I don't know what you want out of it.I think you're just one of those "procedural le bad" retards maybe
>>732426352It's bad when the maps are huge empty and samey anyway. So the village of brown shipping container huts on the other side of this massive field is in a slightly different grouping this time? Great.
are the faction rewards random? i got a sentry blueprint from the tech guys and slapped two on my ship so now i get 2 free laser sentries every mission
>>732427524Every time I use the laser turret it basically takes out one squad then is KO'd by harsh language.
anyone tried the black mercenary yet? he seems really solid>everytime he's attacked he gains a stack, 4 stacks convert to 60 AP>10 AP ability to taunt enemies to attack him>immune to squaddie deaths and ap loss from suppression>improved cover level >reduced armor cost
>>732427524damn that'd be handy on defense missions
can you farm missions or it is tied to an story progression?
>>732409569What game was that at the top? I can't wait for Front Edge personally, I had no idea they were making it free.
>>732429383story is not implemented yet
>>732429562>What game was that at the top?We. The Refugees: Ticket to Europe. It's on Steam>I had no idea they were making it freeThe original idea was that the main game would be free, since the government had already paid for it, but DLCs and would be paid. That was a long time ago, and I'm not sure how it is now, with over a year of additional development.
Things I've found so far to be good:-Smoke (unless they literally hug you they can't see you)-Flamethrowers (completely ignores cover, armor, can decrew open top vehicles and kill transported troops and cause a fire crit)-Reactive armor (for a big chunk of the game the only thing threatening your armor will be rockets, that pretty much negates that)-And pic related
Fucking hell how many weapons are in this game? I keep seeing new ones and I've been nonstop playing since launch
This guy is just overpowerd, right? I think the "healthy" requirement is for individual models in a unit or something. In any case, his squad seems to kill anything it attacks in one attack (unless I'm anti-materiel'ing something with multiple models).On the other hand, the guy with bonuses to enemies with low morale seems totally worthless.
>>732430531 Yeah it's insane, I thought I had seen the whole arsenal by midgame but then the rebel convoy mission dropped and their heavy troopers pulled out some plasma-looking grenade launcher I'd never seen before. Plus the tech tree keeps unlocking weird faction-locked junk. I swear someone on the dev team just keeps sneaking in weapons like it’s a hobby.
are there mods to make the indians white
is this a good starting roster?
>>732431371thats the best starting roster
>post yfw the MENACE arrives
>>732431481I prefer Bog. I want my taxi driver as cheap as possible, and he makes the vehicle 30% cheaper too.
>>732430948snipers in genereal seem really strong
>>732431604
>>732431641rewa becomes a fucking murder machine though, insane stats
>>732431604Lost three squads to those fuckers
>2 patches in release dayYeah fuck that im waiting for version 1.0
>>732431604actually, WE are the menace.
do you ever get to fight the robot thing in the load screen?
>>732431952Bravo, Druckmann, I clapped and cried on the torah.
>taking a month off gaming>feeling good, don't even miss it>remember Menace released>constant overwhelming urge to turn on the PC for the first time in weeks>sitting here like an addict bouncing my leg thinking about MenaceI'm ngmi
>get a suppressed BAR as the first mission reward and give it to darby>she kills everything in 1 attack through cover
>>732432016Yes.
Does it have the same trappings as BB>fighting X enemy>you MUST use the one particular strategy against X enemy if you want to win without losing half your company>if you try and play your own way, you WILL take crippling lossesI see Menace has multiple enemy types. Does it have the same issue.
>>732432152it's more of a milsim so there is little to no puzzle aspect
>>732431641But Anon dont those 30% cheaper come with 30% less HP too
>nuCOM wokeslopShan't be swayed by shills today.
>>732432152The menace i would say forces you to use more AT stuff or things that can fight armor since almost if not everything of the MENACE has armor
>>732432215But not 30% less armor.
The "challenging" AI at least, is pretty cringe in these defensive missions. I just set up my guys in defensive positions, and the AI seems to realize that they can't advance on me without getting shot to pieces. So they just mill around in circles outside of my range for the whole mission.Turn 6 here, for the first time I see some enemies. Apparently, they decided this left flank is my only vulnerable access point, so they've begun piling all their units into that corner.
>>732383531So did Battle Brothers. All style no substance and the devs are greedy kikes.
>>732385216>that negressThis is what we've stooped to after BB, huh?
>>732385216nothing stands in the way of a powerful f*cking black woman
Recommendations for "mercenary/freelancer simulator sandbox" games like BB but ones that don't suck?Starsector was good a few years ago but I can tell the leftist devs are doing their best to fuck it up before full release.Horizon's Gate is quite good, although everything outside of party combat is very shallow (fleet combat and trading are both very low effort).What else is there? I wanna be an adventurer in a hostile world trying to make ends meet.
If you give Pike inspiring presence and put him in a vehicle he will always provide his aura to any unit nearby and the vehicle itself, so you could have a "barebones" commander build and keep him always inside
Straight up dogshit nigger game.
>>732396240roguetech makes it a little more tactical, but in a sort of bullshit way. its hard to explain, but its not the greatest. its better than default though
>>732433031She's not the worst by far. There's an obese old Chinese lady with two prosthetic arms and the leader of the military forces as you jump in system is an African warlord with tons of medals that insults you.
>>732433714Kill germans, behead germans, etc etc.At least the french can still make sexy designs.
>>732428058Vamplew rely on heavy weapon.So you need to find good machinegun for him first.But yeah, he look good>walking close on heaviest armory>taunt for get stacks>shoot 4-5 times in a row
>>732431371Swap Pike for Darby.She's only one stealth ninja in that game.
>>732434946Darby costs too much because of her 3 stars and Pike is one if not the best Squad leaders in the game
This shit better be worth it.
>>732435118why is he so good? the whole "gives actions to other teammates" seems like it's not great, you're using 60AP to give someone 40AP
>>732435118Pike's ability is good, but he's pretty shit himself. Seems better to just take another useful leader instead of someone who makes other people more useful.
>>732408531You just described xenonauts 1 CE edition.Add the balanced psi and vehicle mods if you like either of those features.
Is there a mod to make buildings actually exist? I am not a fan of being in narrow colony streets, but can still have firefights from 6 tiles away through a half dozen buildings
>>73243519760AP to give 40AP to someone within a pretty large range of him. The ability to move resources to where they're needed quickly is very powerful. You'd place Pike in the middle of your formation and have him reinforce whatever area most needs it.Personally, I gave him a mortar so he can sit in the middle and shoot mortars at people from his deep position. Kinda goes against all his 'basic weapon' talents though, and he's not the greatest mortar user either, so not sure how good an idea this is.
>>732435567NTA but you're not considering that you can keep him lvl 3 (or just 1 if you don't want the aura) and give him a barebones skeleton crew, then spending 60 AP to give 40 AP to a unit much more expensive and vetted up becomes much better.
Are there any biomes that have skyscrapers or cities? Is everything little shanty camps?
It has potential but it's a glitchy mess currently. I've had multiple 30 minute missions get locked up when completing and with no mid mission save you're fucked. Not to mention the game can't seem to decide what is cover, sometimes you can be right behind a unit and they still have cover bonus. I'll come back in a few months.
>>732436021its all shanty towns and big flat fields.
>>732436235wait a minute....
>>732436317Zimbabwe.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
Just played like the first two missions and holy fuck this felt like some college kids project than a game by battle brothers devs. the UI is really bad and visual feedback is horrendous.I'm really upset because I was really looking forward to this but this just makes me want to play xcom 2 again instead, the gameplay feels super basic, or does it get better later?
>>732436890it definitely gets more dynamic as you get more items, the first few fights are INCREDIBLY barebones
Demo was cool but threads had dedicated schizo shitposters so I don't trust ITT doomers.1.0 when?
>>732436890it gets a lot more fun with new equipment, but you aren't allowed too much fun because of loadout limitations. luckily mods will be able to remove that
>>732435123That thing shreds, especially once you get to the MENACE. Only 3 shots per volley, so don't expect it to wipe out a unit of spiderlings.
>>732433359Endless Sky. Escape Velocity or w/e it was inspired and OSS, free game.
>>732436890>I am too console brained to understand a simple UI>>732437137>I just want infinite moneysad state of this board
>>732437330loadouts aren't money, loadouts are>oh you spent 4 missions worth of resources on a a new gun but you can't use it sorry
>KILL THEM ALLL AHHHH!good job killing everyone!>awww shucks
when are mods coming, this game fucking blows and modders are the only way to fix it
>>732433387Can he use his give AP ability while inside?
>>732437431you can use it you just have to balance your budget by cutting back on something else>but cheating is f-fuscrubdie
>>732436890Because it's not the Battle Brothers devs. The studio has been gutted of talent, the only ones still left are the owners and the senior leads who didn't do a shred of development. They used their gibs to hire jeet contractors and the usual suspects.
>>732437670I can believe that but I'd also like proof.
whats the differences in difficulty?just better boosts for the enemy and lower supply count?
>>732437723https://www.linkedin.com/company/overhype-studios-gmbhI checked their linkedins.
>>732437524you faggots like this shit?
>>732437757Yes. Its just enemies get more buffs and you get less supplies, the laziest form of difficulty
Why the fuck are you retards still buying early access slop? I don’t give a fuck if it has the “promise” of being a good game. I’m NEVER paying money to playtest an incomplete game.
>>732438424Who said anything about buying?
>>732438424it's fun now
>>732438424Its made by the BATTLE BROTHERS devs. So you know its good.
>>732438475
>>732438509I don’t give a shit who it’s made by. It’s still an incomplete game.
>>732438509No it's not. It's the same studio, not the same devs.
>>732438424I didn't boughted thoughever
>>732397576I don't think you actually have to recruit any of the female companions
>>732438424buy?
>>732437757It only changes supply. No other bonuses or penalties.
>>732435118Math wise Pike cost 20+36+armor cost, i.e. 100+ supply, on level1 with basic carabine in hands. You can give him pipe gun, but can't send him unarmored since he should follow frontliners.All he do is waste his 60 ap to gain 40 to some1 else in 6 squares range, and move on 2 hexes. Assualts like Lim or Yaz will have ~300 suplly cost, more with heavy armor. 40% of 300 is 120, that 20 supply is "profit" from transfer ap skill. Enemy is too far and Lim need to step more than 2 times for reach it? Well, next turn your Pike is useless shit and 100+ supply is dead weight in most important moment. Also good luck to finish missions in 10 turns, when your Pike two turns behind.Darby's squad with silenced kbar, chameleon perk and camo cost like 300. She can terrorize and murder enemy squads completely alone. She can even complete some maps solo.Pike isn't one of best leaders. Darby is, she the best.
>>732437757normal: you get 40% more, enemy get 20% lesschallenge: supplies default, enemy get new toys fasterexpert: you get less supply, enemy get new toys even faster.
>>732397576Vikings is woke yes. That's our fault for buying a woke game.You could tell by a mile the vikings game was cringe as fuck
>>732432765Your post demonstrates why people think they want smart AI opponents when that isn't the case. What you are experiencing is a siege as the AI has correctly determined that it will get raped and therefore it is better to just wait and poke around.That is boring.
>>732405942I still can't see it
>>732432765>>732441125Based AI.Fuck you TWfags. This is what I want.
>>732441167
why are the maps so fucking open this is ridiculous and UGLY
>>732438509Battle Brothers is tedious and frustrating procedural open world dogshit enjoyed by nobody and played only by tryhard faggots who think liking obtuse garbage makes them interesting.
>>732441345>TWfagsQRD?One of the Anons you replied to btw.
>>732383705>zoomies discover Original X-Com gameplay
>>732441125Moving every unit to where you currently don't have range isn't actually smart or challenging AI though.
>>732432765How is that cringe? Sounds based and a great use of AI.If the AI has determined that you're playing like a fucking PUSSY, the AI should act accordingly and play like a bitch as well.
>>732441432I think he means total war. Corner camping the map is prime bitch mode shit in those games
>this is the arch enemy the namesake of the gamelol
>>732441685Becuase the AI has an objective, to attack and seize ground. How does it make sense for it to just hang out and not do anything>muh siegeThere are no mechanics in the game to simulate a siege. The only option in this case is to push out and attack, which you shouldnt have to do since it is a DEFENSE mission
>>732409569Front Edge release when? Played the alpha a year ago and it was fun but obviously super unfinished.
>>732436890>Just played like the first two missions and holy fuck this felt like some college kids project than a game by battle brothers devs.I actually agree.
>>732441812Why're they doing the Jack-O pose?
>>732441812Face down ass up
>>732441812>jak-o poseSluts.
>>732441821That's sounds like something a shitty dev with no experience in the gaming industry would do albeit.
AHHH HELP ME NIGGERMAN IT'S A COMBAT SERVITOR
>>732441812They ready fo BBC:))))
>>732441812LOL
>>732441534Charging in disorganized to just up and die on overwatch and defensive positions isn't smart either.>>732441821You don't need to make specific gameplay mechanics for a siege. If an AI is given enough of a threat assessment to its judgement then it will naturally form oa siege maneuver. Just like how FEAR's AI does proper tactics despite the AI being pretty dumb actually.
>>732432765>Objective is to defend>AI doesn't attackSo, you just win after 10 turns? It makes sense that a competent commander wouldn't attack, but then shouldn't they retreat anyway?>Aww shucks, I'm not rushing into a machine gun nest, pack it upWasn't there a quote that went something like that?>Warfare is chasing your enemy for weeks until someone goes up a hill and the other goes home
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I wish recruiting squad leaders wasnt as expensivethe blackmarket price increasing after each one and then spending the 30 manpower or whatever its called to actually recruit them which is much harder to actually build up
>>732441381>vague horoscope readings of your potential accuracyI hated this shit in ja3 and I hate it here toojust show me a percentage like god intended
>>732442529At least he's a Sikh.
>>732441812>>732441916Peak performance
>>732442801God intends you to live your life like a constant trial, so stop being a little bitch.
>>732442529Sikhs are bro tier so this is fine.
>>732442872>>732442936QRD? So are they just Indians, but not Hindus or another ethnic group entirely?
>>732442994Exactly the same as any other poo plus turban plus dinky dagger.
>>732442994They're Indians except they don't have castes and they actually wash their hands and use toilets. They also don't believe in a pantheon of gods but are monotheistic.
>>732441381No wonder I was looking for a fucking number not some retarded text field that tells you jackshit.Fuck this memegame. Just removed it from my wishlist.
>>732442529Disgusting pooshits making it into space tells me your game setting is dogshit.>>732442872>>732442936You've fallen for propaganda. Sihks are still retarded indian shitskins.
You weren't all kidding about defense missions, shit. Why would the German Government do this to me?
>>732444216They're very adept at torture mechanisms.
>stupid enemies run away all over the place>missions can take up to 1h >cant save during missionguess fuck the person who had something come up during combat mission