FFXI MASSIVE HAPPENING>No longer reliant on ps2 dev kits for development>Game is being made in blender and maya now>FFXI devs just announced they suddenly have a new budget and are preparing for major updates such as playonline decoupling and new expansions>Naoshi Mizuta did music for the latest XIV patch meaning he's with CS3>FFIX concept artist, who also worked on XI, confirmed to now be with CS3>FFXI raid in XIV and discounted sub clearly trying to get people to look at itIt might actually be happening XIbros...https://www.thegamer.com/final-fantasy-11s-latest-string-of-sweeping-changes-is-proof-the-game-will-never-die/
In it, the game's producer, Yoji Fujito, lays down ever more groundwork for what's to come. The big news is plentiful, but arguably the biggest of all? Those ancient PlayStation 2 dev kits are finally at their end. The team is now working with toolkits like Maya and Blender in order to craft brand-new gear and character models.
>FF11 will get updated to work on relevant platforms before the FF13 trilogy
>>732441287Is this good or bad?
>And as for PlayOnline? Truly, the single biggest "newcomers, pray, be patient" refrain from Final Fantasy 11 veterans? The thing that takes hours upon hours to install, and seems to fight you tooth and nail when you can at last begin the login process?>Yeah, that's also changing. As Fujito mentions, PlayOnline is, in fact, so old that some would-be players can't play at all. Why? Because PlayOnline is plagued with potential tech problems, like, oh, I don't know, refusing to display text. PlayOnline has been a poison to some folks who might have otherwise have scoped out Vana'diel, so this is nothing short of a revelation.
>>732441490considering FFXI is at its higher playercount in almost 2 decades I'm assuming square is finally going all in on it again
>>732441492If they get rid of play online, i will actually reinstall
>XIV bleeds players due to repetitiveness and Dawntrail being Jawntrail>people start playing XI insteadNot the development i would have expected
>With all these programming swaps comes the opportunity for truly monumental tweaks: new zones are now possible for the first time in a very long time indeed. You see, previously, whenever Final Fantasy 11 added a new area, it had to remove another. This has been the case for ages, because the game hit its "cap" for the old dev kits so many years ago. Whenever old content is removed from an online game, fans are understandably miffed (unless it seriously sucked, I suppose), so bypassing this opens a plethora of opportunities for the leads to imbue FF11 with genuinely new experiences.
Post PlayOnline kinohttps://youtu.be/bepVadmtkgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6mxRUKehtEthis is seared into my brain forever
>>732443041>>732442543hopefully the music sticks around somehowlike a launcher that isn't playonline keeps it in
>>732441287>Guild Wars being revived>now thisbros... is this... hope I'm feeling?
>>732443115well it's on youtube forever at least. I mean it's funny because playonline, well we all fucking hated that shit back in the day because of how fucking slow it was.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZNX_QN5kdoI still remember updating the game file by file and how many fucking hours it used to take back in the 00s, and if something fucked up you had to restart the whole thing, and yet now today I have nostalgia listening to the playonline music funny how that turns out.
>>732441490Probably bad considering the game has been utterly ruined with trusts. Maybe if they do like some sort of pseudo-classic server that caps at 99 and another at 75 or something idk. The game is better than FFXIV regardless or whether it has trusts or not but the magic of it was completely lost to trusts and more importantly ilvl.
>>732442543I literally use this one as my ringtone, listening to playonline songs reminds me of an era where it felt like technology and the internet were actually given reverence
>>732441287Good, it's the best mmo and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>>732441287If they do update some of that archaic garbage, I'll give it another fair try.It was a pain in the ass and when I finally got in-game and my controller didn't work I was out of patience.
>The team is now working with toolkits like Maya and Blender in order to craft brand-new gear and character models.I'm a little worried about this, I don't know enough about the topic to know if this is a stupid concern, but is there any chance stuff developed this way won't look like the same "style" as the old stuff?
>>732441287>>>improve trustsSo it still sucks and you are siphoning the worst community to ever exist into your own: the FFXIV community.Tell me when they make a classic server. I have no interest in playing a single player mmorpg, even if its using FFXI’s brilliant gameplay. What is the fucking point of playing a support or healer class in a game with trusts and furthermore I am not interested in another fucking gear ladder fuck that shit. Go back to sidegrades and horizontal progression and make leveling take a long time again, theres nothing to be excited about if the game is just gonna be diet ffxiv.
>announced right at the time FFXI sees it's most players in decadesit's happeningSE finally realizes what their real golden goose always was and always will be
>>732443801it should look the same I doubt the art style was tied only to a ps2dev kit
>With all these programming swaps comes the opportunity for truly monumental tweaks: new zones are now possible for the first time in a very long time indeed. You see, previously, whenever Final Fantasy 11 added a new area, it had to remove another.It sounds believable, I don't think anyone is lying, but when exactly did they hit this point? Did they remove any old zones for rhapsodies? when was the last time they added a new zone?
>>732441492I don't believe that's a real quote
>>732444959I think they were manually swapping out zones monthly or something
>>732444227It's a shame they've spent a solid 15 years trying to shove the game into a cupboard and forget about it.
>>732445039>"Oops! it turns out the blood sweat and tears from an army of passionate devs working 80 hour weeks in the late 90's was pure SOVL as along"We will NEVER see an MMO as quality as XI, ever. The people/conditions to create it will never exist again.
>>732443813FFXI will never be good again. This is exactly how chat would look on an official classic server. You'll never experience the proper game ever again.
>>732441287>playonline decouplingSTOP, DON'T DO ITSTOOOOOOOOOOP
>>732441287what's the best way of playing XI?through steam or the standalone launcher?heard playonline is a mess
>>732445192with more support i can easily see that getting fixed with one guy checking /yell chatlogs
the actual reason they're doing this is because fortnite's former #1 streamer "retired" and just does XI marathon streams now
>>732445310steam just launches the launcher so either works, there's also huge sales like the winter sale had it for $5 but it's worth the full price imo
>>732445380Square Enix would never moderate that sort of thing. Only on a private server.
Guarantee that part of the continued charm of the game is that they couldn't bloat it too much due to the devkits. 'WE CAN ADD EVERYTHING AND NEVER REMOVE ANYTHING' brain will destroy it.
>>732445441if i buy it on steam will my account be tied to steam, like XIV?
Anyone got a link to the Ashenbubs google drives? Looking for the 2x textures in particular. I will suck you off
>>732443813The game has gone all the way back around to something that resembles horizontal progression, trusts exist because they must but they do not hinder people wanting to play together nor do they ruin content.>>732445192>This is exactly how chat would look on an official classic server.Wrong, it would be blank, a classic official server would be an impossibility that would not work. Actual 75 cap XI, not the shit you see on pservers, is too demanding for the modern world.
>>732445396who? and where? I'd watch that
>>732445526no it'll just bring up playonline launcher and you login from theredunno how it'll work after they decouple with playonline thoughI'm hoping for official steamdeck support
>>732445513Yep, just slowly turn it into XI(V)
where are people playing ffxithat shit isnt on steam
>>732445396>>732445547Ninja, and no it has nothing to do with him. While he has always been a XI fan and has streamed it a lot throughout the years this is entirely because of the situation happening in XIV.>They FINALLY give XI an official crossover>Unsurprisingly to anyone who knows XI, it causes a massive influx of players because the game is really fucking good
>>732445667Nowhere, no one's playing it, we fooled you
>>732445310Buy the game through whatever. Download Windower 4, run Windower and it will take care of the rest
>>732445667https://store.steampowered.com/app/230330/FINAL_FANTASY_XI_Ultimate_Collection_Seekers_Edition/it's on steam
>>732445513>No you see they should be tied back and unable to create new zones and forced to recolor existing 2008 models for eternitygod you are annoying, you don't even play the game
>>732441287So they are removing the SOVL. How is this a good thing?
>>732445823It's true POL is pure SOVL, but I'm OK with it because I view it as something they meant to do a decade ago, but got deferred due to resources constraints.
>>732441287It appears my old account has vanished into the ether. I suppose I'm not surprised. On the bright side I seem to have rediscovered my FF14 1.0 account.
>>732445823It's soul until you disconnect and have to log back in and you realize that yeah, maybe after 20+ years it's time to move on.
>>732445823if they kept it but just updated it I wouldn't mind
I was always interested in playing this game but heard it got ruined by some systems that made everything soullesscan anyone confirm or deny this and explain the systems that ruined the game?
Should I buy this with my square account that I use for XIV (not steam), or get it on steam?
>>732441287>playonline decouplingi swore that i would never, ever go back to vana'diel, but goddamnit, they're really trying to earn my money again
>>732445995if you have any of the CD keys or anything support can find it for you
>>732441287We are SO fucking back.
>>732441287Could be fun to get the whole family playing again.
>>732441287>playonline decouplingCan they PLEASE put the music in whatever new launcher they might attach it to? Or repackage it for a download. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6j_mWUlBjw
>>732446118if you buy on steam you'll have to add the CD keys to a square enix account anyways, so just buy on steam and add it to your existing account
>>732446074the game is pretty much the same they just added a way for people to level solo without needing to find a groupyou can still find a group and it's required for late late game stuff anyways
>>732441287>Article from last yearFuck, you made me think it was a real honest to god happening
>>732444959I don’t know if it had to do with zones specifically, but they had to nuke old Limbus in order to release nuLimbus.
New Zones = new music, and SE needs to start getting more soundtracks from Naoshi Mizuta before anything happens to him, he's the fucking GOAT
>>732446074It's a lot to explain but in a nutshell>Game is popping off, even deflected the release of WoW>SE sees how big WoW is and begins making XIV 1.0>SE wants players from XI to swap to their new MMO so they begin winding the game down via really obnoxiously bad changes>XIV 1.0 flops>They panic and try to fix XI>In doing so they have to take a sledgehammer to the game>From there they rebuild it in a manner that is befitting of it's new and sadly lower playerbase>Continue with a new expansion and another decade of contentIt's in a good spot today and has been for a while, it's just not the same game it was in 2007. Some people hold a grudge but the reality is that XI was going to get updates like trusts (NPC party members) eventually. The world, story, music, characters, soul, all of that is still there and as great as it's ever been, meanwhile the gameplay is faster and more solo oriented up until endgame. Endgame however is a million times deeper than it's ever been, it's legitimately too much content.
So which do I choose to play? 11 or 14? Which has the better story? I think that's what I ultimately care about more.
>>732446407if it happeningand it's about time that it's starting to come to fruition and that article is only like 2 months old lol
>>73244649411 has the better story by far14 is just, you're the chosen one on repeat
Can someone give me a straight answer as to whether or not the game is a proper mmorpg? I keep hearing it used to be good and that they added so many handholding slop systems that it's no longer anything special.
>>732446504>and it's about time that it's starting to come to fruitionYeah, that would have been the happening, not just reposting the developer log they already put out
>>732446494Both have good stories but XI has far better lore.
>>732446572>wants to be handheld>complains about handholdinglmaohow about you figure it out yourself
>>732446572I can already tell you are too stupid to even install the game, don't bother kiddo.
>>732445541>I will suck you offOnly if you play Mithra
>>732443380Trusts are an absolute necessity when the active player count isn't high enough to easily form a PUG for a leveling party. People want to play the game, not play LFP Simulator.
>>732446572It's the only "proper mmorpg"; hundreds of long term grinds/goals, huge dangerous world, no ! quest handholding, puzzles, myteries that endure to this day, etc.
>>732446429SE was likely going to need to do something to shake things up after the Salvage bans anyway, even if Abyssea wasn’t a great way to do it.
>>732446835Whatever it takes
It's cool but truthfully I just don't really want to play it anymore.The experience I wanted was back in the 2000s. and because it was SO unpopular back then I got to relive it in a way most people never do a few years ago when asura and horizon and nasomi got popular again, because there were so many brand new people not knowing how it worked.The retail version of the game is so very far away from every aspect of the game I enjoyed that there's no reason for me to go back. But if other people find joy in it, all the better, I love ffxi.
>>732446572It's Everquest wearing a Final Fantasy suit
>>732447078If they revitalize XI for real they could easily do a Classic server.
>>732443380trusts were actually a pretty smart idea when your mmo starts dwindling in players and half the content requires a group
>>732445310you'll have a much easier time setting it up for a private server like horizon since it completely negates the playonline shit, and you'll actually play with humans and not japs/bots
>>732446936Not to mention the map design isn't just a straight line from one end to the other like every other MMO including xivYou can easily get lost in xi which I find great
>>732447383>tfw even 15-20 years later when my mind has forgotten everything my fingers still remember the way around the maps
>>732447136That's just it though, that doesn't work. The game was NOT popular in the 2000s, most people who played it never got past the dunes, so a HUGE portion of the game was unexplored and brand new to most when it got revitalized with all the private server a few years ago. They already experienced that stuff.A classic server does nothing now.It's like people are forgetting why those things are popular. Classic wasn't popular because it was a "Return to form" it was popular because it was a period of the game that most people never got past fucking level 30 in. OSRS was not popular because they really really missed the 2007 era slop, it was because a huge portion of kids literally never did anything besides fuck around. There were essentially entirely unexplored worlds that people could enjoy.FFXI had that and the time passed, an FFXI classic would fail MISERABLY.
>>732447309Horizon is lifeless compared to retail after the huge influx of new players You can even find real players to level with unlike horizon just farming easy checks
>>732441287it's 25 year old game, just let it rest already
>>732441287Holy shit, people still play this? What's the player count like, lol? Can you even play this on PS2 anymore?
>>732447383Crawler's Nest says "hi".
>>732447474I recently came back, played 04 and 05My character was lvl 31 and I only remember the dunes lol
>>732447136They can never do a classic server, there are not enough players to make it function. Please understand this simple fact.
>>732447474It had about 500k active players up until about WotG’s release however.
>>732447383SOVL
>>732447474The thing is there are thousands of XIV players who never touched XI because it's old and pretty inaccessible.
>>732447560It has more players now than any point in the last 2 decades due to all the quality of life stuff added and new player experience is actually good now
>>732447474In all fairness it leveled out around half a million subscribers, that's pretty fucking big, especially considering it existed at the same time as the-game-that-shall-not-be-named.
>>732445823FFfags suddenly pretend PlayOnline was a good idea.
>>732447654and subscriber distribution was in the realm of 2/3 JP 1/3 LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET excluding china of course but they don't count
>>732447695It's not good but it is nostalgicI want a new launcher that does everything playonline does but less jank
>>732447695The music was really good though
>>732447746JP ONRY
>>732447695I like the profile art, the UI in general also looks nice
>>732446074Leveling has been made into a single player experience and endgame has also been made more solo friendly as well. Personally I don’t like what the game has become, theres so much powercreep at endgame level now that you have things like 10 minute buffs and 99999 damage bursts the game has also sort of lost that feel of certain jobs being more hybrid oriented in favor of shoving them into a specific role. I don’t really like it, their goal now is to make 99/99 jobs by adding sub job cap increase as the new progression system so eventually the only identity jobs will have is whatever their traits are, and maybe their unique merits.I mean the gameplay is still the same but my fond memories come from the leveling experience and that has been all but lost to the new game, like people will tell me CP parties are the same but its not the same and the hurdle to even get to them is huge. Technically soloing is possible all the way to max level and the most populated servers are full of bots and mercenaries to the point where finding a group for anything is almost impossible, its basically become normal for you to pay someone to carry you through something. Theres also the rema system which is also basically just another huge solo grind, that shit isn’t for me. The game is not much different from FFXIV when you think about it, the glaring obvious difference is the gameplay combat being actually random and not patterns which lets jobs be more interesting than FFXIVs rotations.I’m on board with the game “reviving” if they do a server without trusts and preferably no ilvl, I detest gear ladders and ffxi was literally the anti-gear ladder game.
>>732441287>discounted subWhat is it at now? It's the only Final Fantasy between 1 and 12 I haven't played.
>>732447870「Marlboro」 「Breath」 「Japanese」
>>732447913Finding player groups is very easy in retail today, you need to stop fear mongering.
>>732446836now the population is higher than its ever been in the past 15 years
>>732447820the PO music is stapled in my brain for a lifetimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bepVadmtkgk
>>732447587The average server is meant for 1000 players on average.Private servers for this game have peaked at 4k-5k players and that was at different hours. Classic servers would totally be played and I’m not even taking into account the people that would not play on private servers but would play an official one.
>>732447913>certain jobs being more hybrid oriented in favor of shoving them into a specific roleNow part of that is on SE, but lot of that is community related, and a refusal to break from the most common and easy to set up meta set ups, and expertise on more niche jobs being borderline non-existent outside of two turbo nerds on AH.
>>732445667>xi has its own dedicated website>doesn't know how to download it since it's not on steamoh the humanity!
>>732448009Hell yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9iH8JWcwj8
>>732447913Sounds like you haven't even played recently
>>732447978>literal liesYeah don’t tell them about the mercs, might ruin your shilling. Ass hole.
>>732447978That'll be 10mil. Which role will you be playing today sir? GEO or WHM?
>>732448126Private servers are not classic, they have been modified and casualized. You are also forgetting that most private server manstays are not going to want to play on an official server because it's all about their ego, they have no mod powers on an official server and they would have to pay a monthly fee. Classic XI requires a LARGE amount of players at all levels and it requires those players to have the right mindset, a mindset that doesn't truly exist in todays gaming playerbase.Official Classic XI would not work.
>>732447383people still get stuck in La Theine ravines TO THIS VERY DAY
>>732448247>>732448265>Join any of the public linkshells available>Ask about X>People say sure let's do XIt's not hard. You can even shout and get help with common activities like Ambuscade.
>>732448265WHM pls
>1,000 people all complaining they can't find a groupsomething's not adding up here
>>732448293>private servers are not classicsure not nasomi but there HAVE been, and those are the ones that were so popular they were peaking above 10k players daily back in 2023. The only QOL they had was using asuralauncher for basic shit squenix refused to do like borderless windowed, 60fps, and fixing tons of crashes.
>>732448293>i am going to project my drama from a private server into my postI really don’t have the time and patience to argue with someone as schizophrenic as you. 90% of the people playing in a private server are not interested in your hmnls or dyna drama they are literal casuals trying to find exp parties and unlock areas via story.
>>732448445He is one of the autists mad at aerec or kipling or whatever other fat retard dev from those servers. Notice how hes using the word ego and obessesing about elitist players. Don’t fucking bother with that can of worms. The vm general is almost unusable because of faggots like him.
>>732448445They have never been classic, they were coded from the ground up by the community, they don't include a single official bit of code. Not only that but they incorporate many fundamental changes such as exp gain, movement speed and travel boosts, item drop rates, and even combat and job mechanics.As this retard tried to jump in and say >>732448453 XI is about people trying to do content, that means the server would need enough people online to be able to cover all of that at all hours of the day at all levels. You're simply not going to get enough people interested in playing an official server in 2026, mainly because you vastly underestimate how slow XI actually was during it's 75 years.
>>732441287I have to say as much as I don't like playing online tech-wise.It's always so interesting to see how people in the very early 2000s imagined the internet would evolve into.The software itself has a lot of charm.
private servers are for autistic virgin losers and/or turdworld brownoid scumif you play on them you are a subhumanthe retail game sucks too and is just a bunch of soulless grinds that once completed leave you scratching your head as theres nothing to do with your prime weapons
>>732448698horizon didn't have ANY of that shit. You're talking about nasomi.
>>732448592this is a retail thread, stay in your containment general
>>732448764Horizon has all of that, in fact it's one of the more egregious when it comes to fundamental changes to the game.
>>732448725i really enjoy the world design of early 00's mmos, where they must have thought there could be hundreds of players in a space at once, so we better make them really big, but they never got even a fraction of that full so you end up with these giant empty spaces in large main cities that were honestly a bit intimidating
>>732448940The world had a lot of spaces like that, areas that people rarely if ever went to, so it made the world feel a lot bigger knowing there were these forgotten corners out there. I've always liked these scenery compilations from XI, so many fun little nooks in the world.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxxuMo_H6Y0
>>732448431>The made up people were real in my mindOdin has ton of active linkshells with people willing to help with any content
>>732448940Dunes and Qufim and Tower were always packed during prime time
>>732441287Why are you hyping up a 3 month old announcement? It is indeed really cool but I don't get why you'd bring it up.
>>732449206OP just wanted an xi thread and this is the only news we've had in the past 5 years to talk about
>>732449206This is the video games board where people talk about video games.
I was considering coming back next time they did a free login, but that weird fuck-ass astroturfed "There are broken NMs so we're sending in GMs to kill them!" fluff piece that got peddled around every game journo site and xitter account made me recoil in disgust.
I wouldn't know how to feel about an official classic server desu. It would probably just be riddled with bot and RMT. Heck, I'd fishbot myself because I'm 30+ with a fulltime job, so farming tiger claws for a week isn't exactly what I want to do after my 9-5. I think perhaps we just have to admit this style of game is dead. Yeah Horizon is there but lots of cheaters are playing it. You only need to go ot Knightswell in Ronfaure to see all the fishbots who are there for 8 hours and never fish a fucking pug lol
>>732441492why do "game journalist" write like little faggots
>>732449260that's fair I guess. Don't really have to bait with ffxi though. even a picture of a crab will usually last 12+ hours. best mmo will do that
>>732449206Because one of the major changes mentioned in it is about to come out
>>732449292what kind of retard looks at gaming sites or twitters in 2026? I play the game daily and I haven't even heard of that, get yourself checked bro.
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACKI'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS
>>732449304Why do you want to fish a pug
>>732449409I do because I'm not playing games 24/7 and it's a good way to catch up on news because forums don't exist anymore and unless you're on a game's discord twitter is usually the only other place they're posting news.
>>732449373The trust upgrade was coming first yeah? is it just level +1? Do we have any info on it at all?
>>732449459Then that's a you problem, get yourself checked for autism.
>>732449461we have no info at all, but if it's anything like the previous trust update, then they're just getting stat boosts and nothing else
>>732449453Pugil. Fishing monsters is an accident. There's no way someone is fishing for 10 hours and doesn't fish one accidentally. That's how you can tell it's all bots.
>>732441567I remember seeing the boxes for this game as a kid. Is it fine to get into now? What other mmo does it play like? Or is it like wow with a bunch of middle aged men just kinda playing it for eternity because comfort or something.
>>732449656If you saw boxes for it as a kid, then you are probably among those middle-aged men.
>>732449519It's not really a problem, the problem is squenix pretending they care about ff11 after spending years trying to kneecap it to force people over to FF14, until it blew up and cost them hundreds of millions of dollars because it was so unimaginably dogshit.
>>732449292its likely they had to have gms kill them because if they arent killed by a player of some kind, then they dont give the server bonusesits charming and fun honestly
>>732441287>Naoshi Mizuta did music for the latest XIV patch meaning he's with CS3Which musics did he do and Final Fantasy XI is still around?
>>732449656It plays like MMORPGs made before 2003, slow, methodical, more teamwork and party based. Combat is based around auto attacking to build up TP to then spend on weaponskills, and gearing is deep as fuck because you can swap gear in combat. It's fine to get into now because they've made most of the game soloable with the NPC trust system, you can work your way through the story and any content you want.
>>732449882Probably the FF11 Alliance Raid
>>732449787No it's certainly a you problem, you visit garbage websites and then complain that they are posting garbage news stories, you purposely seek out said garbage.
>>732448764I have to wonder what you gain from lying. Its almost like you’re afraid of something. The irony is that you’re here trying to tell people that they are wrong about something retail related when you’re the one attempting to gaslight. Anyway, yeah I hope square does a classic server, if anything just to see the amount of seething you will do in these threads about how people prefer to play a multiplayer mmo instead of a solo one with bots and mercs
>>732449882I haven't seen official confirmation but the latest patch came with a number of new "cutscene tunes" that sound suspiciously like his style. If It has been confirmed then that's fantastic.
>>732449787>the problem is squenix pretending they care about ff11are you genuinely fucking retarded? They have said they'll keep the lights on literally forever as long as people are playing it. the game is older than most of the developers working on it. They literally just went through a great deal of effort to re-work the game so they can continue development without the use of PEE ESS TWO dev kits. They have shown this game nothing but the uptmost love and respect which is a large part of why it continues to thrive.
>>732450157It's also one of their biggest money makers even still
>>732450014It wouldn't have enough of a playerbase to function.>Oldschool players would only dabble at best, they have no desire to dedicate another 20,000 hours to it>Current retail players have no reason to play it>Majority of private server players wouldn't want to play it because of the monthly fee or lack of sway with the server ownersIt's just not feasible.
Retail ffxi is better than it's ever beenThere's something for everyone right now
>https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=GOODS-04306312I'll never forgive myself for not buying this when it was available. It will be forever in my favorites so I can revisit and seethe about it.
>>732441287Thats great news, it shits on FF14 as game everyday of the week, 14 had a better told story but even that went to shit so I guess there is no point anymore lol
>>732450157Anon wasn't wrong, he's just out of date. That was what SE did but for a long while now they've mellowed out and have allowed a small but soulful team to keep XI running and add what they can. The company as a whole hasn't been trying to slam it shut but it's not like they've done anything to help it over the years.>Waited for fucking ever to give it a crossover with xiv>No changes to it's subscription model>POL still a thing
I played retail a year or two back but it felt like a solo game and eventually I stopped after finishing off the story parts I never did back in the dayPart of me wants to retry HorizonXI even though that was less of a solo game it was filled with complete faggots
>>732450393Why did it come with an in game item or just actually want the coasters
>>732441287PlayOnline doesn't bother me that much, I would much be more interested in them updating the UI and controls. Hopefully the game not being reliant on PS2 dev kits will help with that.
>>732450690idk why ppl rage about POL. It adds like an extra minute max of login time lol
>>732450676I just liked the coasters. FFXI merch that isn't carnival prize-tier is pretty rare as far as I know, those coasters look decent and they were a one-time anniversary release.
So with XI actually getting attention does that mean the west will finally get DQX
Will they update the UI so I dont have to use windower/ashita to get basic functionality?Will they update the engine so I dont have to use a translation layer because the game is still using DirectX 8.1? Like this game has technical issues that have existed since 2003 that fans have had to work around because they won't update their damn game. I dont want new content or trusts, I want a functional game that isnt a nightmare to run on modern systems.
>>732450895kek
>>732450659it's just not worth it
>>732450937Don't laugh at me, DQX mogs XIV and they know it, that's why they are keeping it from us.
>>732450895Stinky gaijin! game not for you
>>732450386such as?
>>732450659Horizon still doesnt have treasures implemented. Its dev staff is utterly incompetent. CatsEyeXI on the other hand gets regularly updated.
>>732451076What's dqx
>>732450895Maybe if your personally buy 10 million copies of every DQ remake/remaster they’re pumping out recently, and then 50 million copies of DQ12 if it ever comes out.
>>732451076>DQX mogs XIVThat's not a high bar, but as someone who has played a moderate amount of DQX I don't think it's really worth playing unless you're a storyfag. The gameplay is straight up worse than FFXI, both in terms of combat and your interaction with the world/enemies.
>>732451347DQX casino kicks ass though
I put 600 hours into XIV and did maybe two story missions for Stormblood, and have no interest in going back. Is XI worth trying? If it helps I routinely play OSRS.
>>732451206Finally has a new player experienceSolo xp grind/questingStoryline Endgame content Even more endgame which requires partiesWith all the new people there's tons of active linkshells for the social aspectGame feels good right now
>>732451453absolutely
>>732451453>If it helps I routinely play OSRS.You are beyond saving; gomen.
>>732451453Yeah it's way better and has a way more fun grind these days
>>732450621this is genuinely just retarded schizobabble. They have been actively working and supporting the game for over 2 fucking decades and you want to disparage them.>wahhh my troon game didn't get a crossover until recently!>wahh the subscription is only $13 instead of rising to $30 with inflation!the kicker is complaining about POL which shows you don't know anything about the game at all. They HAD to use POL cause the game was made for the playstation TWO. to continue supporting the game they just de-coupled development to ps2 dev kits. POL is up on the chopping block. That took more effort than the game is worth but they did it because they care about the product.
>>73245145311 has a lot of dumb shit to waste your time on so maybe but dont be fooled it is all a supreme waste of time >>732451508its literally had all of those things for the last 10 years retard, kys
Game on sale anywhere?
>>732441287>had to look up what trusts are>it's a similar cancer to Duty Support in FFXIVWhy the FUCK is SE actively working to remove multiplayer from their massively multiplayer online RPGs?
>>732451587What video games aren't a waste of time
>>732451651because the population was dwindling and if you're level 40 and everyone else is level 99 then no one is gonna want to help you level up
>>732450895Could never get into the artstyle of DQ games
>>732451578You are unhinged, good luck.
>>732451651End game still requires parties with players you can just level now without needing to wait for peopleAnd there's a party finder system coming soon so even that won't be an issue if you want to find people
>>732451695Zachtronics games taught me circuit design
>>732451816Sounds gay I'd rather waste my time
>>732451651XI is a completely different type of game, one which required you to play with others. We could explain it to you but it would be a waste of time.
>>732451739its just dragon ball
>>732451794>say retarded shit>get called retarded shockedpikachu.jpgasking for the sub price to go up is the funniest fucking part.
>>732451914That's the problem. I just think dragonball whenever I see it.
>>732451901sounds good to me
>>732451969>Random schizo babble about inflationUnhinged
>>732452035i think thats kind of fun desu
>>732444227>110kWhen did it blow up like this? I was playing private servers a few years ago and retail felt like it had like 10k.Also does anyone know if PlayOnline is still a pain in the ass to setup on Steam Deck?
>>732452103The momentum started around it's 20th anniversary, then tailed off, then gained steam again when they announced it's XIV crossover.
>>732450621>No changes to it's subscription model>>732452056>Random schizo babble about inflationWhat "change" do you think there would be except raising the price to match inflation?It's rhetorical of course. I realize you're a faggot tranny saying>oooh I'd like to be able to play ffxi with my ffxiv sub cause ffxiv has nothing to do but ERP for half the year. Play in traffic fag.
>>732452103It's even more now
>>732452286It's going to eat away at you now
>>732452103It can work on steamdeck, yesI hope for a remake with official support it'd be the perfect steamdeck game
>>732451651It's basically to keep the game from killing itself. If the population drops too low and people cannot clear shit without a full party of other players and it takes too long to get into a party people give up and stop playing, which causes the population to drop even more, which compounds the problem, and then more people leave and the entire thing turns into a death spiral that kills the game. This has happened to countless other MMOs in the past and they know this. The NPC option keeps it so that new players can progress and not get stuck from reaching the endgame.
>>732451969>shockedpikachu.jpgReddit is that way friend.
>>732452185Damn Amano is still doing FF art? He's gotta be one of the last remaining Final Fantasy OGs that hasn't fucked off due to SE's relentless post-merger faggotry.
>>732441492I kinda liked playonline for the early 2000s nostalgia
Final Solution to the COR problem when?
>>732451651how the fuck are you going to get groups for ancient instanced story content otherwise?
>>732452754probably a decent paycheck to just get asked to draw a title card and then fuck off until the next release
>>732447489I have an active retail account and a horizon account. You can fault horizon for a lot of things, but there are absolutely exp parties forming at every level range, I agree that the exp rate for ep is way too high but the exp/hr is still garbage compared to a conventional exp pt.
>>732443041>>732442543frutiger aero vibes
>>732452754Amano hasn't been an actual SE employee for like 30 years at this point, so he'd have been insulated from basically all of that as a contractor.
>>732441287I'd love it if they could make the UI use the mouse as well as the keyboard.
Combine the sub with XIV and let me play it on the switch 2 thats all i want.-also Windurst for life, Bastok is for gayboys.
>>732453905Bastok is Bestok you windy faggot, windy was for troons and furfags. Also Gustaburg is the best starting area, fight mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ISSVI8JW2w&list=RD9ISSVI8JW2w
>>732450895>>732451173They removed the US IP block from DQX years ago, they know people play it with the English patch. If you truly cared about DQX then you would have played it by now. If you live outside of the US then tough luck, just use a VPN
>>732454118more like Lastok, lmao
>>732454612I have played it, its just annoying buying more gametime.
>>73245411825 years later and we meet again fucker.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63nFKKI6S3cWE HAVE SHANTOTTO WE WIN.
>meanwhile bagpipeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZTtguGoips
>>732448747wrong. horizonXI is actually pretty good. they recently reworked a lot of stuff and are about to go into ToAU era so for those of you who like COR, BLU, PUP, now is your chance to start anew
>>732454715>>732454118Are you guys really argueing best mmo cities a quarter of a century later?
>>732454905YES. BASTOK IS ONE SHITTY COBBLESTONE TEXTURE ON REPEAT AND ITS SURROUNDING ZONES ARE FUCKING SANDPITS. THE DRK QUEST IS THE ONLY REASON TO GO THERE.
>They didn't pick sandy LOL LMAO
>>732454885no one cares
>>732455030elvaan = gay, only slightly less gay than manthras or pedotarus.Hume > Galka >>>>>> Elvaan >>>>>>>>>>> Manthra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedtarus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNaOpYzKM68
>Character creation>click a guy >get heroic background music>click a girl>get sexy musicmaaan devs used to understand gamers
>>732451347>FFXI party comps are solved for years>Go on DQX>Only Battlemaster, the healers, Demon Swordsman and whoever hardcounters the current superboss matters
>>732441287>using newer tools to create new cosmeticsI guarantee you this is the end of XI's consistent style. They're going to start adding a bunch of stupid shit which does not fit.
>>732455504did they see modern glams selling for real money in 14 and want to add it to 11?
>>732455289>"desert" """folk""">furries>Knights, Kings and noble milfs >exclusively played by males furries >shitter witters and quirk chungus
>>732441287Imagine how healthy the game would be today if they had done this shit a decade+ ago like they should have, instead of neglecting it hoping it died so they can focus entirely on XIV.
>>732455504I've been telling these motherfuckers for 10 goddamn years that a combined XIV and XI subscription would ruin the game because XIV fags will want more XIV shit, lo and behold that's exactly what's about to happen. Introduce XIV fags to XI and your game goes to shit. We're going to get modern clothing and angel wings and glasses cosmetics for the next 10 fucking years
>>732441416Good
What is the appeal of the game at this point? I always thought this was a grinding game like OSRS, but it seems that the grind has been heavily reduced over the years and now you can hit max level in a month or so.
>>732455787Just because you've hit Max Level 1, doesn't mean you've hit Max Level 2 or Max Level 3.
>>732455504They've had tshirts and swimsuits among other things for years and years.
>>732455787you can get to level 99 easily, but you still gotta grind merits and capacity points and master levels and gear upgrades
>>732455787The level cap is only the beginning.
>>732441287>>Naoshi Mizuta did music for the latest XIV patch meaning he's with CS3Mizuta isn't tied to any specific team at S-E. He just picks and chooses what he wants to do, like the time he helmed the music for Jack's game.>such as playonline decoupling and new expansionsNever happening. Most they'll do is streamline POL to just load directly into XI after logging in, and make friends list management possible from within the game.
>>732456028A full expansion might be a bit wishful, but if they bothered to confirm new zones are now possible we're at the very least getting more DLC.
>unfuck modern XI limitations *after* it turned into XIV where the end-game is just 6-man content in private instancesPass.
>>732456159>but if they bothered to confirm new zones are now possibleA reminder that they literally dragged a dude out of retirement to make the battlefield for the finale of Voracious, because no one else on staff knew how the tools worked. Good luck getting the budget to borrow some of XIV's software engineers to research how said tools worked to build a new implementation.
>>732450690>more interested in them updating the UIWhat about the UI needs updating? Is this a wowfag dogwhistle for horbar faggotry?
>>732456267They already did, keep up.
Good morning, I hate Miqo'te.
>>732441287Final Fantasy 11 and Guild Wars 1 are BACK
>>732455787max level isn't a grind, in the 2000s maybe getting to lvl 75 was, now getting to lvl 99 and then il119 gear takes a few days at best, you can easily go from 1-99 in a single day with almost any job now too with trusts. Even grinding merits is trivial these days, the "end-game" for leveling is job points / capacity points and getting the job mastery. Then the real end game grind is in content like ambuscade, dynamis divergence, omen, and grinding out all the job specific equipment like all the armors +3, plus the necks / waist specific gear you make through ambuscade. Shit there's even reforged +4 armors now, it's been years since I played and I just looked that up. All of the end game ultimate weapons are also still a MASSIVE grind last time I checked. Not only because you have to waste time doing all the lower level grind for each weapon just to get them up to lvl 99, but then you have to grind out a fuck ton of resources to upgrade the rest of the way, like hundreds of millions of gil in resources.
i recently began playing FF11 in the past year and I haven't had any trouble with the launcher. What exactly is the problem with it?
>>732456362My Mithra got so much action.
>>732456362I jerked off to tight sweaty Mithra bodies more times than I can count.
Playable Viera please.
>>732455641Hey now I've always brought up that the separate subs filter the everloving fuck out of ~influencers~, normalfags, broccoli headed LARP hounds and more recently trancers leaving only those who genuinely want to experience XI. You'll never guess the demographics that sperg out at me immediately afterwards whenever I do.
>>732441287>dawntrail and ff16 bombed so hard it got square to fix playonline after 25 fucking years
>>732456458Zoomers can't handle anything that isn't a giant green button to press and everything instantly works.
>>732456458The biggest issue is probably that the DL speed is capped super low, so even with the most updated official version of the game installer, it will take like 30 hours to patch.
>>732456653It patches in a couple minutes anon, you need to stop talking as if it's 2006, it's 2026 lil bro.
>>732456362this doujin legit permanently warped me into a hopeless muscular cat tomboy addict, it was like some form of epiphany
>>732456578It's funny. After several attempts to sunset the game over the years they're forced to reinvest in it.
>>732454905It's asherons call
>Every menu in the game has hard coded strings and can't recycle the strings from other menus>End result leads to the translator getting bored at times
>>732456753When you're up to date, sure.The version you can download from SE is still quite out of date however, and you'd be better off downloading one of the fan patch repositories.
>>732447870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fJCr2ZGdwobligatory
>>732456947And to make things more annoying, there's no menuing standard/bible in XI as to whether the Confirm option is always the first or second option.
>>732456947It's by design because he has soul.
>>732450895They didn't even bother to bring the offline version to the west, online version is never ever.
What race should I play?
Started playing this recently. The game is a bit old and clunky but it feels like a final fantasy game at least. Its a nice change from 14 :3
>>732457121What do you like?
>>732457121Galka if you're a chad
>>732457067Koji hasn't been involved in XI for a long time. It's just D who's the bored one.
>>732457121Whatever you want, it's not a factor anymore.
>>732457067I wonder how dull the japanese text is
>>732441287>dawntrail so rancid dogshit this happensKinda funny
>>732457121Mithra so I can jerk off to your model, don't forget to say you're sweaty to really make me bust
>>732457254lmao
>>732457001That's true LMAO it's different every other time it seems
>>732441287They killed FFXIV so hard they have to go groveling back to the GOAT lmao
>>732457207Elvaan are so delicious.
>>732452803I like da noises it makes
>>732457460truly
>>732457207I don't really like the look of the galka, and I don't like that mithra are gender-restricted I play a male miqote in XIV, and I don't like how elvaan stick their neck forward when they run.So that leaves hume and tarutaru. It seems boring to pick hume, but my problem with tarutaru is that my autism will prevent me from ever playing it as anything other than a magic job, whereas I can more easily imagine a hume fitting as any job.
>>732454118mo liek ASSTOK, Gustaberg is a grey rectangle with shit music. Even Ronfaure clears
>>732441287>give us a monthly tip or else we will revoke your access to the game you paid fordo MMOcucks really?
>>732456413Id love a version of XI that wasn't such a massive grind. One thats paced like a single player RPG where the content is the story, challenging encounters, not "collect 200,000 dloebs to upgrade to the next stage". I dont like the whole gear treadmill thing where there's just another thing you need to do as you chase power for powers sake. I want to appreciate the combat design, not one shot everything with my level 9999 character. I also don't like having to kill the same thing 402 times and years of my life to get that .1% drop off the mob that only spawns once a week. I want a version where all the bosses are instances so you dont have to compete against some chinese gilfarmers to get a claim.I played in 2005 but didnt get far, the massive grind turned me off and I moved on to XII when that came out but part of me liked the world and general look of that game, it appealed to my sense of aesthetics and I always wanted to appreciate it more fully. You play it now and nothing is a challenge you just level to 99 equip some ilvl stuff and trivialize 99% of the story content, its boring and hollow.Id like a version where the challenge is preserved, you get to experience the story and you arent forced to do all the time wasting shit designed to pad out your subscription.
>>732457332It's basically the only thing XIV1.0 fixed from XI that I wish they went back and addressed.
I remember being a kid playing this game when it came out on the PS2 and I was too retarded to be a tank for the dunes area for party grinding. Then not finding a party because so many warriors/tanks existing. Quit right thereThat was my first MMO
>>732457543tarutaru also just kinda look like shit in 60% of all gear
>>732457968I was an Elvaan warrior fag tooApparently my build was dog shit so was my equipment.
A played the game like 3 month ago and became a dark knight. idk what I’m doing at all besides quests and killing mobs, I think rn my character is in the place with all the turtles where if you don’t silence yourself you get soul sucked. Should I jump back in and try to be social? my only social experience in this game was being called a dumbfuck noob for farming in the starting desert area to rack up kills for the dark knight quest
>>732458030>>732457968I think I got mogged by a Tarutaru warrior too.
>>732458030I bet you were using swords as a WAR
>>732457207Why is she so mean and hot bros
>>732457543It's important to know that each race also has it's own set of animations including when using all weapon types.
>>732458179sword and board is literally how you play WAR in dunes parties
>>732457909>I'd love a version of GAME that plays completely differently from GAME and just kinda looks similar to the originalKindly fuck off, ty,
>>732458179Yeah I think I had swords. Maybe the dual wield ones.
>>732458228and their own annoying sound effects when you attack depending on the head you choose
I NEED Lhe Lhangavo to berate me.
>tfw can't beat the HELMs on Xim
>>732458179The skill difference doesn't really matter that low, and especially before the 2H buff there's an argument to be made that when you have fuck all accuracy either way you're better off something faster so you can build hate marginally better instead of possibly whiffing nonstop.
>>732457968I really have no idea how people knew what to do back then, nothing made sense to me
>>732458438They weren't kids and played Everquest 1 probably and other RPG games. You actually had to problem solve and learn the game unlike later on where websites tell you everything and where now AI will make you a perfect build.
>>732458438Besides that shitty prima guide, that was the fun part.No one else really knew either, nor was there a scientific approach to figuring out how the game worked until much much later.It's why there was so much playground rumor tier bullshit.
>>732458352Mithra queens legally own me, I'm their fucking chud slave
>>732458438Game was designed around exploration, experimentation, and sharing knowledge with one another. XI was fullscreen-only for quite awhile, so your options were to log-off to check KillingIfrit/Somepage/Allakazham, or ask ingame.Then standardized wikis became a thing and ruined MMOs.
>>732458438you asked people and you wrote it all down in a notebook
>>732458729dont forget bg
>>732458632>he didn't face NNW while crafting with a fire crystal on watersday after /waving to a tarutaru to reduce the failure rate
So is now a good time for me to finally start playing XI? It's the only one I haven't done yet
>>732458974HOLY FUCKING NOOBSAUCE EVERYONE KNOWS YOU FACE SW WHEN USING A FIRE CRYSTAL OMG
>>732458974>>732459151I know you guys are meming but there were lots of people who genuinely thought that shit worked.
>>732458974>doing it before moonrise
>>732458889BG was where we went for dat mining and new shit as people were figuring it out (fucking Birdman Capet). Not the basic knowledge/guide stuff noobs are looking for.
>crafting while Aeomatra is in retrogradeit's like you guys have never even touched a hammer or loom before in your entire lives
>>732441287>This will save us
>>732459220YOU HAVE TO ZOOM IN ON THE SCREEN TO BEAT AV!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qofPWHFcWSI
There's only one excuse they'd have for dropping PlayOnline entirely, and it'd be to port the game more easily to modern consoles.Porting to modern consoles would mean they'd also find every mean possible to breaking Gearswap, since anyone not using it is at a severe disadvantage. Hell, they already know who every single Windower user that plays XI because it self-reports itself to the server, oops.
>>732459738>gearswapwhat is that?
>>732459738The devs themselves use it. At this point it's pointless to try to kill
>>732460024Windower add-on that allows full gear automation autismo at a rate faster than the client itself allows, since gearswap bypasses client-side checks and reports to the server directly.Eg, in this script I've adapted, it'll automate use of my waist when casting spells depending on my distance from the mob (Orpheus Sash deals more damage the closer you are), otherwise it'll hit up my Hachirin if the day/weather combo ends up being more potent.
>>732459738Breaking gearswap would basically be a modern day Salvage bans minus, and I really don't think SE wants to do that.
>>732441416ffxi already works on winxp through win11 and linux, macos, steamdeck thoughbeit
>>732460229I'd only let them break gearswap if they introduced the concept of precast sets that ignores the 1s equip wait, so you can actually swap to your midcast before the action finishes. Modern RNG or COR are unplayable without geraswap due to the prevalence of Rapid Shot on gear, which is random chance of less waiting on your weapon to fire.
>>732460367Win98SE through Win11*
>>732441287i will miss playonline's 90s/00s sovl
>>732460420It requires xinput, not sure that would run on win98 desu
Will they ever fix all of the missing sounds in the character creation screen? It was broken on both PC & 360.
I day dreamed about winning that 2 billion dollar power-ball and building a life-size replica of Lower Jueno bros.
>>732460024an addon that will automatically swap your gear under certain circumstances, so for example you set it to equip your movement speed+ gear only when you're moving, your haste+/STP+ gear when you're auto-attacking, your STR+/ATT+ gear when you use a weapon skill, ect.
>>732460371Yeah, the bog standard functions of GS aren't that crazy, and are mostly just QoL so you don't need to swap in and out of movement speed pieces constantly.It's the more reactive and borderline automation stuff that people cram into their luas that skeeve me out a bit.
>>732460492It never had any
>>732460464No it doesn't.
>>732460579>compilerletit links to xinput.dll
>>732460523seems like a good way to get yourself killed by stepping forward 2 inches and dying because it swapped out of your DT gear
>>732460523>you set it to equip your movement speed+ gear only when you're moving, your haste+/STP+ gear when you're auto-attacking, your STR+/ATT+ gear when you use a weapon skill, ect.holy FUCK it does that for you? for the past decade I thought you still had to press macros for everything
>>732460572Yes it did? On PS2 it had footsteps, breathing noises (noticeable on Mithra as she runs), and the Galka slam + roar, which is laughably silent on PC/360.
>>732460649that's an addon. base game still requires you to press macros
>>732459079perfect time if anything
>>732460729surely there is a single video on youtube that could prove your assertion, my good anonymous poster
>>732460738Yeah, the base game does have gearsets built in now though, so you don't need to macro equipment in line by line by line like the bad old days.Nothing like having to hit two equipment swap macros before and after every WS bros...
>>732459738Breaking gearswap would probably instantly kill the game
>>732460634You get to define what you swap and you write an XML for each job. You can also make it not activate your movement speed gear if you're engage in combat for example. Its completely up to you, you can define the logic and the sets however you want.
>>732459738I would quit if gearswap stopped working
>>732459738i do a lot more worse things than use windower or things normal players use sweet summer child
>>732459738I hate gearswappingIt makes no damn sense anywayThey never should have allowed it
>>732460928me? I inject packets to DoS streamers I hate
>>732460523I think literally any other game would call that cheating
>>732460931hold on, I gotta gearswap to my reading glasses for this comment
>>732460970i inject packets but to brutally exploit various parts of the game
>>732460931its been a feature of the game since I first started in 2003 gro. doesnt matter if it doesn't make sense
>>732460979not my fault this 25 year old game allows packet injecting
>>732461036favorite packet ID?
>>732460931if your BLM you should have at least 10-14 different gearswaps
>>732460931The game is literally designed for swapping gear, which is why it has a rudimentary gearswap system in vanilla (equipsets or something). The only problem is that it sucks ass
>>732460931Maybe, but it's part of what made the game and the horizontal progression what it was.Gear powercreep probably would've been a lot more direct that it was and has been.
>>732460931Gear swapping is unironically the main reason the game is still alive to this day. Anyone who "hates" it is better off just playing XIV - that should be more to your taste.
>>732460773This took way longer to find than expected given the age of the game and the amount of people that recorded PS2 footage in that era. All I can get is a female Hyur, but the footsteps are audible at least.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvBNlYd76R0
>>732459416Jesus, why did drop so aggressively?
>>732461093That sounds ridiculous
>>732459416What happened in august?
>>732461116Besides spell precast and ranged attack stuff, equipsets can get you 95% of the way there for what the vast majority of people do with GS, provided you're not mashing your macro like a caveman and causing things to fire out of order.Capped FC makes precasts super finnicky for spells that don't take 15 eternities to cast, and being able to automatically swap to and idle set is a huge sanity QoL factor.
>>732461315huh, holy shit.>IGNeven more impressive desu
>>732461513NTA but 14 isn't enough.
>>732460979The history of gear swapping is kinda nuts, the developers never intended gear swapping to be a thing, yet they designed gear that sucks under certain circumstances but is great under other circumstances and the game encouraged people to collect all this very situational gear and didn't restrict you from swapping gear, even during a fight. So naturally players started swapping out gear manually, the best tanks would swap gear constantly, the devs saw this and added / commands that let you swap gear via macros, so the best players started writing macros to swap gear and the devs started making even more gear specifically with the intention of being swapped in/out. The only change they really made was they made swapping out your weapon reset your TP, before that change people would equip something fast and weak to generate TP quickly, then swap to their big heavy weapon for a weapon skill, that's the one thing they nerfed about gear swap.Just for an example, this armor was made before you could swap gear via commands, when it was introduced if you wanted to swap you had to open your inventory and equip it manually. It has Slow which makes your auto attack delay longer, which means you generate TP more slowly, so obviously you don't want this equipped when you're trying to build up TP for a weapon skill, you want Haste gear for that, but it also has a ton of Strength and Accuracy, the things you want for big damage, so it only makes sense that you'd equip it only when you want to use a weapon skill. Its baffling that they never realized people would be swapping gear when they made an item like this.
>>732461616Will also say, PC is missing all of the DoF functionality PS2 had and used subtly at all times, which is why PC's fire weather looked like garbage in comparison.
>>732461513its not if you wanna be a good BLM
>>732461706PC version has artifacting in most textures due the the DXT compression algorithm being aids in 2002
>>732461587I never really tried it, but I doubt equipsets could handle DRG jumping. Most of the time I'm jumping directly into a WS off of the TP gain in less than a second, and the weird delay on equipsets make me think that something would fuck up if I tried
>>732461717How is having to replace equipment on the fly not ridiculous?
WHAT'S MY JOB BROSANY JOBPICK A JOB
>>732461649its baffling they made that item at allits dogshit, like a lot of items from that eraat least post an ebody or ridill nigga
>>732461791Summoner. Ogle your summons.
>>732461791Puppetmaster
>>732461649>the developers never intended gear swapping to be a thingGoing by the official site that catalogue's XIs history, they intended it, just not to the extent players ended up abusing it.It came up during an old discussion where they added the ability to change gear with macros during pre-NA XI times. They considered making it out-of-combat only, but at the time they had no real bible or function on the server end to declare on a foundational level what determines a player to be out-of-combat, (eg. party members that haven't touched the mob), so they just let it slide without any checks.
>>732461760BLM dont need TP, so switching elemental staves for whatever spell is very useful
>>732461760It isBut muh "its been in the game so long long" people will brush it away.Its fucking stupidJust imagine your team dressing and undressing constantly in the middle of a fight
>>732460572Its not just the sounds in the character creation menu, the effects rendered incorrectly on PC/360, like the way the glow effect looks is wrong. I remember being told it was because transparencies are handled different in DirectX than how PS2 did so it made everything look wrong. Like all the spells look wrong, the glow around summon monsters looks wrong. The game was explicitly a PS2 game first, and the PC port was an after thought.Kinda sad that all this shit is broken and most people never even realized it.
>>732461887Atlana lets us do it, don't question it gaijin.
>>732461749Good ol' 4x4 block compression, where a texture will randomly have its hue shifted either red, blue, or green some relative to its neighbouring 4x4 block. It's only really noticeable in player armor due to the frequency of detail they tried to pack into those textures, relative to the environments.It'd be really fucking nice if they ever went back and recompressed all of the game assets using modern means to preserve the original detail, but also make the game smaller. Maybe also fix the fucking alpha checkerboarding while they're at it which is most noticable on the 2d maps.
>>732462024it's probably possible to extract the non-AIDS textures from PS2 and reimport them with a less shit algorithmwont be able to fix the backwards duck though kek
>>732461849>>732461874okay so I'm summoner with a subjob of puppetmasteram I going to be made fun of
>>732447654>at the same time as the-game-that-shall-not-be-named.They had hardly anything in common besides being MMOs. "It" was aimed at the western audience, Lineage 2 at the koreans and slavs, somehow and XI was aimed at nips.
>>732462128I will give you two optionsSMN/SAMor PUP/BLUchoose wisely
>>732462073Least they fixed the fucking foot on the beetle in the update following the one where XIV ripped XI's beetle model into it. The XI devs were being cheeky about it on Youtube where they were discussing the next month's content while sitting in a repurposed mob camp in Sauromugue that's now full of beetles.
>>732462128you picked probably the worst main job in the game and added perhaps the worst subjob to ityou chill brah
>>732462179#NotMyBackwardsBeetleFoot
>>732462146give me more info on bothsounds funneed the why understanding
>>732462073I might end up doing that out of boredom if I can find a way to automate the conversion. I still have an Adoulin-era PS2 install on a still-functioning PS2.
>>732461887>>732461760It's fun, it gives you a near limitless amount of items to aim for rather than having a singular BIS outfit you use for everything. Gearswap takes it to the extreme but it just means that now even more items are useful, shit like precast and midcast would be impossible without it.
>>732441287Will XIV and XI have shared sub at long last?Don't even play XI and it probably has more fucking players now.
these were my favorite weapons before i got burnt out(rng)I bought that KClub for 40mil gil, resold it 6 months later for 50mil
>>732461887It's a shame XI never took the approach of having shit we equip to our abilities/spells to boost those instead of armor that boosts them.
>>732462432>resold it 6 months later for 50milEver wanted to know how much Abyssea & Mog Garden fucked FFXI's economy?
>>732462546And the funny part is these day 99.9% of the value is solely because of how rare it is, since it's useless for anyone except RNG basically.
Imagine playing Final Fantasy games numbered higher than you can count on your fingers
>>732462386They don't need to make it a shared sub, they still make plenty of money off the people who multibox
>>732461760It is, totally its utterly ridiculous to think of a guy changing out breastplates in the middle of a fight, but its also what made the game great. In most games you find gloves that has +4% cure potency but you've already got much stronger gauntlets with more armor and you think "what a useless item" and you immediately turn around and sell it to the nearest NPC. Yet in FFXI an item that increases cure potency is still useful if you only need to swap it in whenever you cast cure. FFXI potentially has hundreds of individual pieces that are useful for your job thanks to gear swapping, instead of just a half dozen or so like with most games.
>>732446494From what I remember of XI's story it's kind of a Demon King's army situation? XIV had interesting moments but ultimately the choice to go with "Everyone's the chosen one" was fucking trash.
>>732462546>>732462651They never tell you about the "inflation" axis on the Supply-Demand chart in Econ101
>>732441287Just play FF14 you freaks…
>>732462727lmao that gif. The Noob was pretty good desu.
>>732446494FFXI story is fine but incredibly overrated. The lore is definitely interesting though. Unfortunately a good chunk of the game also suffers from ye olde Square shitlators since it was made in the early/mid 2000s
>>732462824passheard their last expansion has a literal tranny for the main character
>>732462651And RNG's use case for it is extremely niche and irrelevant for any modern content because of its lack of +Skill, and the fact it feeds TP.
>>732462894>shitlatorsyou mean people who can make boring japanese trash entertaining to read?
>>732462824I guarantee you everyone here plays both xi and xiv already>>732462920the english VA is a tranny, but the actual character is just some retarded cat with extremely stupid writing, even the normalfags hate her character immensely
>>732462651XI always had a market for useless items, before lockstyle people would buy rare items for ridiculous prices just to show them off, even if they were dogshit items.
>>732462886I like this one too.
>>732462894Part of what made CoP so great was how hard you had to work to get to a new cutscene so it made everything better. But then they nerfed everything and now you probably don't even need hands to do it.
>>732462894I've been playing through the story for the 1st time and its pretty good I think. One thing however I don't like is your character just standing watching things play out around them. Happens a lot
>>732462930you could also offhand it with WHM/NIN for shits and gigglesThe real solution to TP feeding is to equip every single person in a party with kclubs so the enemy is permanently at 3000 TP, therefore you won't actually be feeding any tp
>>732462980Chill out there, Koji Fox. Not every character needs to have an annoying verbal tic added
>>732463081In 90% of cases you're literally just an adventurer helping out. You're not the chosen one except in Rhapsody which jumped the shark.
>>732463196I hate rhyming so fucking much>repeat the same statement for a fourth fucking time>because every goddamn sentence is required to rhymethe worst writing crutch imaginable, it turns everything to worthless mush
>>732463060I don't remember the level up animation ever playing if you got raised back up from a delvl.
>>732463306>In 90% of cases you're literally just an adventurer helping out"Hey kid, why not bring some of your adventurer friends to kill $thing?"
>>732441490Limbus is gonna be back then finally>>732443380Unless you're a merc nigger and only merc bitches will cry about this. This is a good thing,Trusts absolutely needed a boost once you hit ilvl because there's tons of jobs nobody wants to party with in order for you to start earning JP to get stronger >>732443801That's always a risk of it being like FFXIV tier where the outfits and style look like modern day Korea >>732444350The original art director doesn't work at square enix anymore bro he works at Cygames now, and that's the case for 99% of the key staff that worked on ffxi they are either no longer working there or retired
>>732463306Its not about your character being a peonIts about your character literally just standing watching things happen. Like you will just be standing there watching a friend get attacked
>>732463336It doesn't even make sense in that context because that character normally doesn't rhyme, but the translators decided that every single Elvaan female involved in the Christmas event should speak in rhymes for some reasonThere's a ton of quirk chungus and overly flowery dialogue in FFXI overall, really makes me think that the translators were bored out of their minds
>>732463361Let me guess, you played on PC?
>>732462930How else am I supposed to flex when I finally convince the PUG to let me come on RNG for a segment run????
>>732463363XI rarely does it, unlike ARR.
>>732463471PS2+PC+360.
>>732461754Gearswap is damn near essential for DRG, like you need to be in your TP set, then swap to your Jump set, then swap to your weapon skill set, then swap to your pre-cast wyvern breath set, then swap to your mid-cast wyvern breath set, then swap back to your TP set all in the span of like 1-2 seconds, how the fuck are you supposed to macro that to ensure all the gear was swapped correctly for the correct times without packet injection?
I didnt really care for the Jeuno music back in the day so I changed it to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arA8Mdd2bx4I felt like it was a good decision
>>732463754thats retarded
>>732463754>for DRGit's essential for EVERY job, not just particularly DRG
>Christmas arrives in Vana'diel>Jeuno gets unique music playing despite no decorations>The three starting nations get decorated out the ass but play their regular themeI never fucking understood that decision.
>>732463936Do they not? I remember them playing unique music
>>732463835For most jobs you don't need to make that many swaps that quickly, like I played PLD, SAM, and WHM just fine for years just using in-game macros and it was never an issue. DRG meanwhile was completely hamstrung if you're not making these swaps and the game doesn't let you swap with that much granulation, you can only /wait in whole second increments, by the time you've swapped to your weapon skill set /wait 1 the whole seqence is over, the wyvern used the wrong breath with no potency upgrades, your jump went off without the extra TP gained, its completely fucked without gearswap. RNG is like this too.
>>732463969Only Jeuno gets the tune.
>>732463754If that's not possible without packet injection it probably just shouldn't be possible
>>732464004Gearswap for me only felt mandatory on RNG, COR, and Casters if you're at endgame and have capped fast cast. Everything else can survive on equipsets, since the inherent 1s delay on using abilities/ws won't hamper you there, and anything else extremely niche, you can use the old /equip macro for which doesn't have the 1s-wait baked in, for hitting JAs that need a specific piece or two swapped in for it.
>>732464004Maybe one day I'll finally get around to gear my RNG enough that it's not just another N*eglingman...
>>732464023It does that Gearswap allows you to basically cheat in two ways.1. WS without engaging. It's a client-side enforced rule and the server doesn't verify it for some fucking reason.2. Midcast set swap still counting with a Quick Magic proc due to how the server processes the grouped packets gearswap crafts & sends out
I wonder how far I'll be able to solo with the buffed trusts
>>732464220you can beat 90% of the game with just trusts right now
>>732464220I don't know what all they could do to Trusts to make them viable anywhere where they still are not. Most I could ask is just being able to give them some more DT so they don't die so fucking quick on certain HTNM/Ambu encounters that I generally solo or 2box w/ Trusts out.I would LOVE it if they added a macro command that you could use to make a specific Trust move to your position, so you could scoot one away from a cleave range if you're not the hate holder.
>>732464409Yeah, the flaws trusts have feel very intentional at this point, and not something they'll do away with lightly.The healers all have some pretty serious deficiencies between either their AI and spell prioritization, where they stand, or how fast they burn through MP.Tanks can't hold worth a shit unless you throttle back hugely.Supports are purposely gimped by their spell/song/roll selection and potency.The DDs are the only ones that could see some serious improvement and that's because they're all so terrible.
>>732464665>tanks can't hold aggro>mages burn through MP instantly>supports are missing half their spells>DDs can't skillchain for shitsounds like a regular pickup party to me
cherukiki be all likemissing 20% hp? that's a cure vi
>>732464220>>732464409>>732464665Word is trusts are getting customizable AI similar to how gambits worked in FFXII
>>732464023I don't disagree, I think while gear swapping is great for what it did for the game's horizontal progression there's probably a much more elegant way to handle it without having to make a dozen different swaps in a second to get the most out of your gear.Like maybe there should be a system for taking the augment off of on piece of gear and adding it to another, so I could get both the pre and mid cast effects without having to make split second swaps.Lets say HQ end game gear gets like 5 augment slots and you can transfer beneficial augments from one piece of gear to another, but you can only have 1 bonus of a given type at a time, so no 5 haste augments. Then you still have reason to hunt down a bunch of gear, so you can get your hands on these rare augments so you can transfer them to your gear, and you don't need to swap gear 5 times in a second anymore. It'd fundamentally change the game and have ripples in just about every other aspect of the game but that's what you'd have to do to fix the situation.
anyone here been to ffxi jail?
>>732464746>val, morimor, darriculn, shantoto II>constant skillchains and magicburst>>732464915like this
>>732464915That sounds like utter bullshit, but man I wish that bullshit were true.
>>732464941I once got stuck in the geometry in Palborough Mines when I was 12 years old playing on my PS2 and when I filed the Help Desk ticket, they sent me to jail for 30 minutes while they "investigated".
>>732465054that's funny you mention that, I was just leveling there and saw like 10 people running around on odin servergame giga alive
>>732464915XI Trusts will never get anything on the level of gambits. It'll just be shit like Monberaux where you talk to the NPC you got the Trust from, and you can change preset behavior from there via some quest or trading them an item.
>>732465385anything is possible now that they aren't constrained by ps2 devkit
>>732465463PS2limitations was never the issue with Trusts. It's their server backend.
Half the point of trusts is that they're so bad you're still being heavily encouraged to actually socialize and team up with people, as part of the game's whole forced cooperation mindset.If you could tweak Apururu's AI so she wasn't fucking retarded, they'd also need to nerf the absolute fuck out of her so she didn't also now have infinite MP because otherwise there'd be no point in anyone ever playing WHM.
>>732465463POSSIBLE being the word in question here
>>732465636Shantotto II is still ridiculously overpowered and better than 90% of all players
>>732465636Their AI being what it is was not something they purposely held back for the sole purpose of forcing people to play together, it's just what they were able to do at the time. Trusts are useful but they need to be stronger in multiple categories, and no it wont dissuade people from playing with other players.
>>732465463>XI only has one developer these days>He doesn't know how to do anything besides manipulate what already exists on the client/serverYeah good luck overhauling anything worth a damn.
>>732465858Unless they buffed the absolute fuck out of her, she's worth like .2 Naeglings of damage output.
>>732465858an ilvl 119 character auto attacking probably does more damage
This is my favorite songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p32APYX4Jps
Someone spoonfeed me. I'm gonna pick this up soon and probably play DRG. I'm mainly interested in doing whatever constitutes the main story because it's the last thing I have to do. How feasible is this for a solo player? I know trusts are supposed to be super helpful but I'd prefer not to be shit out of luck right at the end
>>732466341follow pic rel and you can do it all yourself with trustjust do the first portion to rhapsody in umber/lion trust II then get to lvl 99 and get the free ilvl 119 gear from copper vouchers and you can cruise threw the story
>>732466341it's entirely possible solo, you can probably beat the whole story and main expansions in a month or two, Rhapsodies of Vanadiel will require other players at the end, but that's about it and you could honestly just skip Rhapsodies anyways
>>732466341Everything beyond the last boss of Adoulin, Rhapsodies, and all of Voracious resurgence is basically trivial with trusts.You can just shout for help for the last bosses of Adoulin and Rhapsodies and you should be basically guaranteed to get some help.
>>732466341You can solo 90% of the story with Trusts. It'll also be a lonely adventure since you're expected to solo to the max level these days.Also the level-cap quests still exist, so you got that as a roadblock from lvl50 onwards. Can't play DRG either for awhile since it's a Job you unlock, but with the speed you level up these days that won't be too much of an issue.
>>732466468you can get to level 30 in only a few hours starting from the beginning these daysprobably take you longer to walk to Maze of Shakrami for your wyvern egg than to get to level 30
>>732466449>>732466454>>732466463>>732466468Thanks bros.
>>732466341its not the same as it was 20 years ago just give up its not your fault
>>732466629did you make your character yet? I can get you a gold world pass so you get a free exp lvling ring
oh the chariot band you get early on gives like 75% bonus xp for the first 30 levels so its very quick
>>732466695just grab a free echad ring, SE gives them out like candy now
>>732466661Echad Ring is pretty damn nice. Didn't know they made that the Day-1 reward these days.
>>732466661Not yet, probably won't for a month or so
>arenanet went back to update guild wars 1>now square enix is going back to update ff11wtf is going onis it the era of the boomer mmos?
>>732467621>>732445182You'll never see the care/quality in an MMO like XI ever again, ever.
>>732465498That can be fixed now, right?
>>732467621>arenanet went back to update guild wars 1People seem to have forgotten that GW1 already had its big update years ago which added better modern OS support, UI functions, some optional eye-candy, and modern DX, and that "Reforged" was rather minor in comparison.FFXI still runs on fucking DX8.1, and they refuse to update that. It's one of the reason most people use Windower and wrap it to DX9 or 11 so it doesn't run ass.
>>732467621I think a couple studios are finally just starting to realize that it's easier (cheaper) to create content for and maintain games that don't have 60 gorillion polygons for every model etc.
>>732467797This may come as a shock to you, but Trusts were introduced post-PS2/360. Any limitations they have now weren't a result of it at all, but issues with how they designed their backend. Trust dialog is also tied to the zone string tables, so any change they need to make to that is an arduous task since they have to change it to every single fucking Trust-compatible zone in the game, and also deliver those changes to the client.
>>732467928Japanese PC game, prease undahstandoh
>>732468930tarutarus a cuteI like the one where he walks up calling them fatty-watty
>>732469018
>>732454885>wrong. horizonXI is actually pretty goodyou mean the server that just made the notorious Patch from Hell look like a fucking joke? I was reading testimonials and whatever happened sounds really fucking funny
anyone hear this rumor someone made up
>>732454885I'm so glad horizon stopped advertising fucking daily here awhile back.
>>732441287>Article says they're using Blender and Maya to make models>You read: Entire game is being made in Blender and Maya
>>732469643they still do in the /xig/ threads on /vm//xig/ is a fucking cesspool of pserverfags arguing over which garbage dump has the shiniest meth needles
>>732444227>>732441416>110kOh wow it's fucking nothing. WoW had 9 million in 2025. Hell even FFXIV is sitting at 200K and that shit fell off a *cliff* in march last year.
>>732470071what an exhausting life you must live
>>732470071I'm glad you chimed in as soon as the thread died so I don't have to see arguments over population numbers for the 3000th time
>>732470071People forget how many RMT XI has, and multiboxers. You can easily halve that 110k and it still wouldn't represent the actual number of individual subscribers.
>>732470071Where did you get 200k? It dipped below a million active players in March last year, not 200k. Still shameful obviously.
>>732471372The chart in the image. That was mostly posted for the criteria for what they considered an "active" player
>>732470071it's over 200k now and even still no one gives a shit how well a fisherprice mmo is doing aimed for literal 60iq retards who want to see some stronk black womyn save the day like the latest xpac
>>732467827Small little scrappy indie Japanese company, pruease understando
sex with elvaan femalesthink about it
>>732472663what else would one think about?
>>732472982Mithra butts?
>>732472982That 5% droprate on Regal Cuffs?
