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>PvE games like WoW have whinier, more neurotic communities
>PvP games like Counterstrike have more based, chad communities

Why is this?
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average quake player
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>>732512096
Brother, when was the last time you visited cs2/go match? It's nothing but a non stop outrage and circle blame from manchildren and actual children
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>>732512096
You can't really say that when ASSFAGGOTS exist
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>>732512096
You can see this same phenomenon in self-contained MMOs which have both PvE and PvP content. For example, EVE Online.

>carebear miner players are complete sissies who throw tantrums if they're killed
>pvp chads will go bankrupt having all of their ships blown up and just hop into a Rifter & keep going

PvEfags have always been sissies. No self-respecting man prefers fighting AI designed to lose to a median person.
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pve = prey
pvp = hunter

it is what it is and always has been
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>>732512096
Can someone explain the obsession with testosterone to me?
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>>732512741
Normalfags got into looksmaxing culture or whatever it's called and now they won't shut up about everything related to it
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>>732512741
it's the compound responsible for making people truthful, brave, inventive, energetic sensual, etc. and most modern humans are deficient in it due to a complicated set of environmental endocrine disruptors (eg. testicular microplastics, estrogenic birth control in the water table, phytoestrogens from processed plant diets like onions, pseudoestrogens from plastic food containers, etc)

chances are very high that if you have "brain fog" or lethargy, you are low in testosterone
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>>732512741
men with higher testosterone don't post on /v/, average testosterone levels are going down in the last 80 or so years.
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>>732512941
>phytoestrogens from processed plant diets like onions
like soi*
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>>732512941
>>732513006
do you guys seriously believe this shit?
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>>732513132
great "BRUHHH WHATT? DO YOU RLY??"-esque reply. can tell you're like 15 and transgender. i'm sorry you were raped, but please don't write your opinions online anymore
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>>732512741
it's a cope that the insecure use to feed their fragile egos
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>>732513195
do you drink milk despite it being full of cow estrogens?
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>>732513132
Testosterone deficiency isn't real xister, tell them. Scientifically recorded plummeting sperm counts are just chud propaganda
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>>732513195
wow, rude
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>>732513267
the amount of estrogen in a glass of whole milk is around 1/2,000,000th of what's in an estradiol pill, so not significant in any way, and i'm not aware of any studies showing cow's milk causing lower sperm count, gynocomastia, etc.
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>>732513274
ayy lmao!
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>>732512941
>it's the compound responsible for making people truthful, brave, inventive, energetic sensual, etc
completely untrue
it's the compound responsible for denser muscle and bone mass, but also lower intelligence and higher propensity for aggression and risk taking
there's a healthy level of testosterone, and an excess is actually really, really bad for you
why do you think it is that so many bodybuilders suddenly have their hearts explode at 35?
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>>732513538
because xenoestrogens don't affect the body. Why on earth would estrogen from a plant have a significant effect while estrogen from a mammal wouldn't? also how do you know what's in an estradiol pill, do you have something you want to share
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>>732513601
>it's the compound responsible for denser muscle and bone mass,
testosterone has a vast number of cognitive effects on top of its androgenic muscular effects, some examples being being truthfulness, risk-taking, etc. it's also completely incorrect to say that testosterone lowers intelligence. it has a slight positive correlation, even without controlling for the fact that africans have higher testosterone and lower intelligence due to genetic factors unrelated to this particular slope
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>>732513946
guy who was touched by his dad and now he worships other men
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>>732512096
>ask a question
>also give the answer
Why?
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>>732513996
>ad homimen
Yikes Xir, this isn't a good look
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>>732513996
intriguing projection, but unsurprising considering the rates of child molestation are hundreds of times higher among your community
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>>732513132
yes.
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>>732512096
This graph would be good bait, except that the speedrunning community exists tho lmao
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If someone calls you a "tryhard" they're more than likely a tranny.
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>>732512741
high risk of cancer
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>>732514195
speedrunning doesn't count as competition, you're just playing a game over and over while wearing transgender socks, there is no other person involved. the average speedrunning tranny could never, ever play a PvP game because they're not mentally strong enough to handle losing to more skilled players
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If you think the reason you neurotically obsess over being good at a video game as a substitute for anything else in your life because of high T

I have a bridge to sell you
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>>732514110
yeah all these higher chances and your dad still did it to you, that sucks buddy
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PVP makes stronger men
Also PVE players can only play PVE
Meanwhile PVP players by default are masters of PVE.
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>>732514346
>reddit spacing
>reddit post
KEK
Do PvEsissies really
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>>732514346
why do casualfags always assume superior players have nothing else going on? almost everyone i know from competitive FPS games is wealthy, average or good looking, has a gf, etc. i'm no exception of course. have you considered maybe you're just inferior in general?
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>/v/ - Video Games
>pve casualcuck immideadly traying to play his "touch grass no life" like a womin
We need to gatekeep /v/ harder.
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>>732512941
>truthful, brave, inventive, energetic sensual,
so, slaves?
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>>732515016
no? why would you want your slaves to be averse to lying, courageous, high in risk-taking, energized, high mating drive, etc.? you would rather have a feminized, self-deceiving, cowardly, safe, lethargic, sexless worker drone that listen to all of the propaganda, performs its basic function, then dies
(ie. you)
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>>732513946
>testosterone has a vast number of cognitive effects
I already addressed those
where do you think the term "roid rage" comes from?
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>>732515148
>no you're the slave
>*injects T like a troon*
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>>732515148
>averse to lying
so they don't lie to their masters?
>courageous
good war fodder?
>high in risk-taking
find joy in activities they might die in?
>energized
good workers?
>high mating drive
more slaves?
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>>732512158
>waxed body hair
>faggy haircut
yeah, very homosexual
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>>732515409
>where do you think the term "roid rage" comes from?
from people taking medically inadvisable overdoses of testosterone distilled from sweet potatoes which then also decays into large overdoses of estrogen (known to cause psychotic ideation in large doses). it has nothing to do with the fact that public testosterone levels have been plummeting and it's causing society-wide issues

this is sort of like if the public were deficient in sodium, and scientists pointed this out, and then some transgender retard went: "but look at this guy who died of a sodium overdose, sodium is bad and we need less of it"
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>>732513274
woah, hey guys
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>>732514301
Are you one of those low test cucks that only compete on the server they are playing at, instead of trying to dominate leaderboards?
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I like how almost all 4chan threads nowadays appear to be thirty latinx leftist zoomers angrily fighting with one thirty-five-year-old white chud. It's like in a movie when a solo elf has a heroic last stand against a horde of goblins or orcs
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>be me
>small, mostly hairless, hate competition
>take T test in my 30s to eliminate a diagnosis of a certain digestive disorder
>results say I have 95th percentile T
Are there multiple T receptors that activate different pathways and some of them are just defective?
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>>732515886
testosterone is only part of the equation, there are other male sex hormones like DHT too. there are also rare genetic issues which can influence sex hormone receptivity, a doctor can get you sequenced for like $100 nowadays to check. that said i'm not an expert in endocrinology, unironically Claude would probably be able to tell you more than you'll find on google
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i can always tell i'm arguing with some low-t millennial or tranny because they fall apart the instant you press them on any issue and can't get you banned by reddit/discord mods
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>>732515409
have you ever heard the phrase "the difference between medicine and poison is the dose"
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>>732512096
>Why is this?
It's not.
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>>732519023
>tranime
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>>732519714
>ARYANime
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Japan kicks the US's ass in straight and gay media. US only knows how to create sludge for goys to slurp up from the funnel.
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>>732519714
>>732520004
angel cop game when
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>>732512096
>>PvE games like WoW have whinier, more neurotic communities
Swifty is a PvPer and hes swole as fuck.
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>>732512096
>fags who cant into 1v1 rts confirmed for low test
Kek
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>>732512096
But what about this
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>>732521436
>he thinks a study is the same thing as a poll
zoomeroid
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>>732512096
Highest T vidya player
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>Counterstrike
>Based and chad
Hello, Vlad. Got banned again so you're posting while you cool off?
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>>732512096
All communities are gay, reddit and cringe
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>>732512741
people unironically think it's like your man level in points or power level or something but have never even experienced supraphysiological levels
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>>732512741
Just another topic of the right wing vibe science culture.
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>>732521624
It's okay, he just needs a proper teammate that will see his growth in more ways than one
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>>732512096
You posted the reason. Competition. It's also why multiplayer pvp games are mostly men
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>>732523136
Is there any chance this actually happens?
Also I barely watch CS - is monesy giga overrated or what
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>>732521624
Some british femboi is the flagship of CS now? Lmao. Even F1nnster passes better
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>>732513274
He has the hots for some alt chick in his mandatory intro to art class at his community college
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>>732523348
>Is there any chance this actually happens?
No, the team composition is already fucked, adding another ego resource-hungry rifler will just murder the already dead team.
And Spirit are probably keeping him under a tight lock
>is monesy giga overrated or what
He's like 3rd-4th best player in the world and hard-carries Team Falcons all the time BUT started having jitters at big events last year for some reason
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>>732513996
Im not trying to be a dick, but if youre just going to throw out vapid insults, this topic might be beyond you
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For whatever reason, it seems this post has angered our transgender users
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>>732512158
you have to choose when to be aggressive, and when to not be so aggressive. I am talking it
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>>732524341
he was wrong... all you really have to do is let jesus bless your USB packets
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>>732524301
jews like jeffery epstein taught them that testosterone was evil

but that was just to turn them into impotent goycattle (eunuchs)
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>>732512741
It's just man points.
In reality, the endocrine system is very complex and there's a large number of compounds that have an effect.
Also it gets metabolized into dihydrotestosterone, which makes you bald.
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>>732524584
>Jess Ting
Who actually believes this shit
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>>732524825
>fell for the psyop
RIP
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>>732513657
You could literally just take estrogen and it would do nothing, because it gets immediately reduced to testosterone. It's why additional medication is required for trannies
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>>732512096
>speedrunners who compete at a high level are all trannies
curious
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>>732525064
>You could literally just take estrogen and it would do nothing, because it gets immediately reduced to testosterone.
that's not how that works. you saw some youtuber state that the two can convert into each other, and now your 85 IQ pop culture brain thinks that happens 100% of the time, instantaneously.
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>>732525224
those are AGP trooners who boil plastic bags and inject hormone disrupting chemicals that don't really make a difference
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>>732525443
And what about the FGC?
Very competitive but also full of troons
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>>732515503
>transfaggot projection
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>>732512096

i’m a punished chad of a single mom

you go through life being what every guy wishes he was but you feel uglier than they do for your entire life
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>>732525780
>iphone filename
>gacha
Southeast asians can't be chad, sorry kid
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>>732524584
Where is mount sinia?
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>>732512096
I've been diagnosed with high testosterone from my doctor but I still look and sound like a 15 year old. Testosterone making you manly is a psyop
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>>732525353
Generally enzyme kinetics are very, very fast.
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>>732512941
Curious how simply pointing out the facts about testosterone brings the coping trannies out of the woodworks.
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>>732512096
>Literal who posts a chart on Twitter (without source or evidence)
>This is enough to convince Anon
This says a lot more about you than anything
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>>732514346
If you neurotically obsess over being bad at a video game as a substitute for anything else in your life, I have an even bigger bridge to sell you.
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>>732525920
>simply pointing out the facts about testosteron
source where
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>>732525995
>my personality is le quirky funny cat memes
>GRRRRRR DID YOU JUST SAY LOW TESTOSTERONE IS BAD?!

you're a stereotype
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>>732515857
Thought I was the only one who noticed this kek
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>>732512096
Fresh take all online only multiplayer is cancerous shit that helped kill gaming and it was never good, gaming is for loners or small groups of nerds who hate humanity not normies that constantly need other people to enjoy doing something.

Why don't you fuck off and watch sportsball?
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>>732512096
>Baseline testosterone (T) levels are positively correlated with competitiveness in a mathematical skills-based task in men
>in a mathematical skills-based task in men
Nice fucking PvP you've got here you double nigger.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X16300095
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>>732512096
pvp builds character
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>>732526328
>high testosterone CHADS are even more confident about winning in nerd activities like math

nerdbros we have literally nothing. we lost.
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>>732526389
Ultimate and final TRVKE

PvE creates spoiled manchildren who expect to win every time, to be the main character, the epic final hero, etc. They have no skill because the game never made them learn.

PvP creates mature adults who have experienced loss and failure a million times and pushed through it to achieve incredible heights of skill.
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>>732526051
4chan.org
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>>732512096
I haven't played PVP consistently since 2016, that's right around the time when everything became more about excess for the sake of excess, not balance. Flavor of the month nerf and buff patches. Just awful shit.
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>>732526328>>732526389
>>732526431

>Why don't you fuck off and watch sportsball?
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>>732526961
>PvE newfaggot doesn't know how greentext or replying works
AHAHAHAH
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why is this thread so long and angry about the most obvious and easily observable thing ever?
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>>732512741
testosterone = manliness = virility = survival
it's hard-coded into most men's brains to want to appear masculine in order to attract a mate and propagate
the entire concept of personal honor is rooted in the same thing and men will kill or die if they feel they have been gravely insulted because historically, accepting such insults likely resulted in women losing respect for you (and gaining it for the other man) which resulted in not reproducing
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>>732526051
Stop being an idiot man, this shit is common knowledge.
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>>732526306
All nerds should be turned into slaves sent to work in sweatshops to make couches
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>>732527445
If you show zoomgroids a graph that says there's such a thing as biological inferiority they have meltdowns about it. Works with IQ, testosterone, attractiveness, criminality, etc. It activates their tabula rasa brainwashing that says all people must be biologically identical. (they choose to believe this due to their acute awareness of their own biological inferiority)
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>>732514110
i wonder how many of the promiscuity statistics would apply to women if they were honest
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>>732512096
What about team PvP versus solo PvP? I really can't be bothered to compete with teammates dragging me down anymore but I still play 1v2 fighters.
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>>732527976
>1v2
1v1 rather.
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>>732512096
not a problem in nortubel
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>>732527976
1v1 games are basically totally dead. SF6 is the last one hanging on
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>>732512096
People grow out of compfagging, you will too little timmy.
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>>732528326
that's true, after I got my vasectomy and started drinking onions I abandoned all PvP and competition as it's rather ableist and harmful. I'm becoming a better man.
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>>732512096
You can win close to 100% of the time in a PvE game, while you can't really break a 50% winrate in a PvP game, and someone high in neuroticism would obviously prefer to win more since neuroticism is defined by how much you feel negative emotions and losing makes people feel negative emotions. So yeah, pretty obvious. I'm high in neuroticism and I kinda' hate PvP games, even though I play some. I'd rather play co-op games.

Also, I feel like the average anon doesn't understand the Chad meme anymore. Chad isn't actually good. Women like Chad because women are awful retards.
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>>732528326
The Boy Who Cried Sweat didn't exist when soibois didn't. That's not a coincidence.
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>>732528770
They haven't misunderstood Chad for almost a decade. Virgin vs. Chad stopped being "normal vs. wacky" after a week.
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>>732528770
>Chad isn't actually good.
you think a guy who is happy most of the time & consequently can tolerate doing basic things like playing competitive games *isn't* superior to you, a person who is unhappy most of the time and can't do basic things?
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>>732528841
>haven't misunderstood
haven't understood*
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>>732512741
I have low testosterone (on normal levels but still lower end) but I certainly don't look anything like >>732513274
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WHOA, IS THAT ANOTHER VAGUE PVP THREAD WITHOUT MENTIONING A SINGLE PVP GAME!!?!! :o
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>>732512096
WoW is a game built singularly around the purpose of wasting as much player time as possible so that they can extend subscriptions as long as possible. The WoW community is full to the brim with neurotic subhumans because they equate that vast amount of wasted time to fulfillment/engagement that's found in other games. Success in a raid isn't a "win" because you found joy in the act of clearing the content or in overcoming a great challenge or because you and your friends got to spend time together, it's a Win because it took everybody several hours of prep time(buffs/DBM/Weakaura/etc.) to get ready to engage with one single raid AFTER spending months getting stronger gear, only to then have the joyous thrill of spending week after week in this layer of content because it will give you a new layer of gear to become marginally stronger so you can loop this exact same content again. The pinnacle of a WoW player's gaming experience would give Kafka an erection.

Conversely, in PvP games, the joy of the experience is found in every single match and interaction. You get to battle people you don't know, people you definitely know, people you will grow to hate, people you will become long-term friends with, your best friends, and your biggest enemies on the other side. Matches take only a brief period of time, so you're in, having a fun experience, and then you're out. After that, you decide how many times you want to jump in and out. No lockouts, no world buffs, no M+ Keys, none of that shit. You jump in, play the game, and jump out. It's the linear antithesis.

It's not even purely a PvE vs PvP thing either. Finno Fanno Fourteen has immeasurably less time-wasting retardation than you'll see in WoW, and the community (while autistic and retarded in a different framework) is an entire spectrum more tolerable than even the most friendly and joyous WoW communities.
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>>732512096
Invaders in Souls games are gigachads, even with all the disadvantages they keep invades just to piss off whiny pvers, the amount of seethe they cause to this day is legendary
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>>732512741
higher testosterone = better health = longer life
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>>732529706
are you retarded? the OP mentions a PvP game
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>>732531525
Body builders have shorter than average life spans.
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>>732513601
>why do you think it is that so many bodybuilders suddenly have their hearts explode at 35?
what a retarded fucking post. You're arguing for the consequences of naturally high excess tostesterone because people die from steroids. Wow, I never imagine having 10 times the normal level is unhealthy.
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>>732532230
doing body building doesnt necessarily mean you have more testosterone



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